Episode 502 w/ Layzie Bone

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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in O R E? What up is dj e f N?

Speaker 1 (00:47):
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And when we started this show, we said we wanted
to get flowers to the legends. You know, the people
who are our cars, people who are who have made
it here, who have stad to test the time, who
are real, real you know icons in this business.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
This brother right here, he's not only a part of
a legendary group, he has the legendary on his own.
We are going to give him his flowers today. We're
gonna make sure the industry understand how important it is,
and make sure I understand how legendarry this moment is
right now in case you don't mother fucking know what
we talking about. So what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
My brother?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Like, I love this story right? How you brothers come
from Cleveland? Right right? Right? How did y'all link We're
Easy to even take that bus ride to go to
LA to link were Easy? Had y'all knew y'a was
linked with Easy or y'all was just going to l
A on some.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I mean we knew, we knew we wanted the link
were Easy, Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
You know, I mean at that time when we was
in Cleveland, we had uh, we had a local tape
our call Faces of Death, okays like that, so we
was making our We was doing our thing in Cleveland.
But at the time it was like who would you
rather be with Ray or Easy? My thing was always
Easy owned the company.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
I was always infatuated with the Russells and the j
Princes and Easy E. So but dope, man, that was
my childhood. So we like, shit, we're fucking with Easy.
So we're telling the whole hood. Man, We're gonna go
meet Easy one day and all they like quit bullshitting.
But that was the gold though, to get to easy,

(02:32):
you know what I'm saying. So it wasn't like we
had it playing. I mean, well we we wanted it,
We planned.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
We manifested that ship, put it and that's the height
of them that beat us.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
But between death throwing easy right, Oh yeah, yeah, we
was ready for whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
But not only that, so many people, that's so many
people American dream it's like to go to California and
become an actress or something like that, Like you know
what I mean, like, oh, what is what is the
other fit you go to California for like direct door
whatever like that, like.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Like Hollywood dreams.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
At any point did y'all get like like like you know, distracted,
like man, like we ain't gonna meet nobody out here,
like because I know it's not like that, Like you know,
when I first came to California, I thought I was
gonna meet Arnold Swartzer Nigga and s like that, and
I never met nobody. So I'm saying for y'all, like,
it wasn't a point where you was like, man, was

(03:22):
this the right move?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (03:23):
I mean, first, the first three months we was in California.
We was homeless, and shit, wow, you know what I'm saying.
So you know, we was moving around shout out to
a couple of homies that looked out for us, you know,
the Mansfield Homeboys and all that. My nigga died, so
we had people that was showing us the way.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
We had went to Tone Low House and shit like
that and Funky Kold and try to get on with
Tone Low.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
But we knew off the rib, like you know, it
was just like we gonna find Easy.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
The determination was so real.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
You know.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
We called this nigga like three thousand three, three thousand
times a week, had an office, you know what I'm saying,
trying to get on the phone with him, trying to get.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Hurt by Easy.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
So yeah, we we It was definitely a time we
was like, shit, this ain't gonna work.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
We had to hustle up money to get back to
Cleveland to.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Get on the bus again. Yeah, to open up for Easy.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
We talked to him on the phone, you know what
I mean, when we was out there homeless, we had
that opportunity.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
But then we found out he was doing the showing Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
So we had to hustle up back to Cleveland, and
that's where we really got in front of him.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Man, how'd you get on the phone with him? To
start with?

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Calling this office every day?

Speaker 3 (04:38):
He had a girl, girl by the name Akisha Anderson
was his sister, was his assistant, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
So she was working the office. She got tired of
us calling.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
She's like, nigga, I'm gonna tell him, y'all call and
I'm gonna put him on the phone because y'all dope.
And one day she did that, and then you know,
we was still homeless and heard he was going to
Cleveland and got backstage ship and it was that was
curtains after that.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Now, is it true that you guys didn't know y'all
was different? Easy was the one who told y'all that
y'all was different. And then he also would have y'all
in battles or people, y'all be in battles, and and uh,
y'all be wanting to take the dude's headed off, and like,
nah man singing that ship, we would want to battle,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
But your nigga, Easy, he was like he'd be like, man,
I'm telling y'all, y'all different. Man, y'all, I want y'all
to sing. He'd be like, singing that song we used to.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Do this, smoking high, dro feeling fine, slow, sipping on
wine wine, and he'd be like, do that ship. We'd
be like Nigga in battles, Nigga, we can we just
do wopping.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Up over a little fire barrel we used to.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
You know, we had a fire barrel on ninety nine.
You know, it's cold outside, so we started fire and
ship and just do wopping like back in the days
like sixties and ship, you know what I'm saying, but
but rapping at the same time. So that's that's where
it came from.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Right.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
All right, because I'm a brag for you, you know
what I'm saying, Like, there's been so many people who's
trying to duplicate you got style, like you know what
I mean, Like so many people, like first off, even
the melodies itself, the melodies and harmonies. I believe that,

(06:31):
especially in that era, that y'all was the first people
to do that. Do you feel like that?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
I mean, it was a lot of different elements of
rapping fast.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
You know, I don't know, remember you had twisted. You
had to push nickasnas.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Then you had poor righteous teachers doing some type of
flip to flow. Guy's effects had a little flip today ship,
you know what I'm saying, So do.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
A dive.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
But they was after us, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
But who came before us that had like a fast flow.
But the harmonies, the picking the pockets and the riding
the melodies and all that shit came from bong thugs
in harmony. That's why you ain't never heard of the
same because it takes five of us to do it,
you know what I'm saying. So yeah, I definitely say

(07:19):
we started our own lane that everybody in down everybody
singing flip your flow, that's the lane.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
That bomb was everybody on the same page to have
that flow style.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah, absolutely, Like we first started off wanting to put
who could put the most syllables in one line? How
many words can you say in one line? And then
by us like doing each other a libs and shipping
holding the ends of the words and all that that
turned into melody because we was all we come from

(07:53):
singing backgrounds. We did new addition, we did we did
all that shit growing up. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
So singing just is what took the melodies is what
took it over the level? To me, do you feel
like people copy that style sets?

Speaker 1 (08:09):
I mean, who haven't? Who haven't copied our style?

Speaker 3 (08:14):
If you if you hear any nigga rapping and singing,
but you know what I mean, any nigga rapping faster
than they was in nineteen after nineteen ninety four, that's
all bone thugs and hard.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
So how the hell did you guys catch people wu
tank claim? I know that's your own family now, but
how is that? You know we're going on tour with them?
Used to before we get into So what happened was
now it was Russell Simmons. He was having a Christmas party.

(08:53):
They had just did the show. I think it was
a movie to show show.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
They did that, and we had a song on the soundtrack.
Fleshing Baun had just signed over there. But you know
what I'm saying, And it was Russell Simmons's Christmas party.
We was invited, but we get there early as a
motherfucker man.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Like.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
We there probably around about eight o'clock because you know,
we had limos, bringers and shit. We in there with
our shirts off, dancing, having a good time, clearing the
niggas fresh out the hood.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Still, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
So we in there kicking it, having a good time
and shit, and it's about twelve of us, no security, no,
none of that. Were just out there raw New York City.
So come eleven twelve o'clock, Wu Tang come in. They
came in hype, about nine hundred niggas. They moved niggas

(09:49):
out the way. Being one of my niggas, caught one
of them bowl and there you have it.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Next thing, you know, I see a bottle flung from
over the room, which get hitting the head.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Uh, I see ghost Face killing them over there were
boxing with these big ass niggas.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Ship you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
And Chris Lighty, but rest in peace, Dave Lighty.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
They uh, they was our there was our escorts.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
They got us out of there safely, needless to say,
them niggas.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
And then Biggie was there. He was coming in when.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
The ship was jumping, so he stopped them niggas from uh.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
He was about thirty thousand of these, I say, you
want me to bring.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
It your nigger, Hell no, I ain't got no motherfuck
pistols were in your city. Yeah, that was a crazy
little endeavor, but it happened because you know, we was
We was both at the top of our game, that's all,
you know what I mean, And whatever the misunderstanding was,
there was some pushing and shoving in the crowdy club.

(10:58):
These motherfuckers didn't even play our song until the fight
broke out. Wow, it's an every day thing. Well, so
we killed accidentally killed Russell Simmons Christmas party that year.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Sorry about that killing, Bruisy.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Maybe it's water under the bridge. Let me let me.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Tell you, Let me tell you how like like how
lost I was. Right, I'm watching the versus battle, right,
I see the mic fly, I see all this shit happen.
I'm sitting there actually saying why I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
And then I go back and I'm listening to the music,
and I'm like, oh shit, these guys have been taking
shots at each other forever.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
I did not know that prior to the verses. So
I'm just sitting back like damn, because I always thought
like other than New York everybody else get along like
and I'm.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Like, holy shit, and I see this ship.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
But I didn't realize.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Y'all's going down for years.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
For years y'all happen to be. I didn't realize that.
So had y'all not seen each other since versus? No,
we talked, you know, uh ship, Paul had did beasts
for us and all that.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Always always see black. You know what I'm saying. No,
we was cool, you know what I'm saying. The understanding
was everything was cool, and we was gonna get this
motherfucking money and we're gonna go on tour and everything
was gonna be, you know, cool.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
But you know, during.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Throughout the night she got ship changed a little bit.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
I was hYP though. I was like, it wasn't that bad.
I was like, I was like, y'all because you know,
have been too clean. It's like NBA right now. So
you see a little like elbows and fellas.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
You're like, yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, we was
having our pep talks behind stage, drinking and ship. You know,
I'm like, man, fuck these ugly motherfuckers and all this,
and you know, we talking ship. You know what I'm saying, Like,
I ain't had no idea. What's gonna go out there
and take that ship literal?

Speaker 2 (13:05):
You know what I'm saying. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
It wasn't the alcohol. Maybe I don't know, but you
know it was it was bound to happen that ship.
Still we still got to the money.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
And there's still a classic. Yeah, and were still and
were cool to this day, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
But when them when them great energies clashed, sometimes it's
it's still a competition.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
It's still hip hop, you know.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
No, no, no, that was that was love versus again
against somebody else.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Who would you who would you pick?

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I don't know, man, shlayos Na. I wouldn't say the
Migos because you know what happened to they look okay, yeah,
that's right, you know what I'm saying. So, uh, I
don't know who the fuck with bond out there?

Speaker 2 (13:47):
You might have to form a supergroup.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Enough hits, don't gotta be enough hits or we're talking
about thirty years over here.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Make a look for when you said you're going maybe
it'll be going on the road with three six as well.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, well, we we had a tour last year with
three six that was prolonged, but we're definitely going out.
Just that one trash was going out on the on
the uh not the Wou Tang tour, but three six
months of your tour for sure.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Do you still love going on tour? Hell yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:27):
I mean that's the best part to me is being
on stage. Now, everything they come along with it. If
I can get to the stage and then back to
my room without all the dramas.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Transport.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Right there, you know, for me, right there with the crowd,
straight from the house to there now cool. But yeah,
I mean, but performing is for me is what made
me fall in love with the whole thing, you know,
just being there to express that ship and getting on
on stage and talent shows back since the nigga was

(15:03):
well eight nine years old, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
So that's the love for me is touching the people.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Everybody that a Bone fan that know me, you've been
to a Bone concert, they know I fucked with the
people too.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Right because.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Band Aid boys, that's the original, right yeap, Bandaid boys,
Bandaid fans, cold clap your hands. We had this song
called fairy Tale Land in the seventh grade. Man, I
took a choir with Crazy Bone.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
You know, we had a choir class. My nigga Kate Chilled,
My brother Flesh was Beadie Rock. So that was our
first group. We started boys band Boy that was like
junior high.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
And then you went to Bone Enterprise. Enterprise was high school,
seventh grade. Bone Enterprise was like ten eleventh grade, boys
seventh grade. Then yeah, the Bandaid Boys. So we you know,
we went to Difference. Kate Chill went to another school.
He went to Glenville. We went to Lincoln West. So
we kind of split up. And that summer that's you know,

(16:05):
niggas start hustling.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
That's when the game was introduced to us as far
as hustling and all that shit. So I ended up
getting knocked up in nineteen eighty nine. That was my
ninth grade and that's what Bonne in the prize. I
came with that with a homeboy out from California.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
But we lived in Ulyss, Texas, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Soon Enterprise was formed in Texas when out before I
got a chance to come back home. Because I went
to Texas, I was selling dope and all that shit.
Like I got a book coming out too, So it's
gonna explain.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Like my origin and where where it all really really.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Came from from my perspective, because sometimes in bond niggas
see shit from their own perspective, you know what I'm saying.
So it's five of us and we got different perspectives
on this shit sometimes.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
But what inspired the actual the whole bone thing, because
everything became bone Thug Phil.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Phil Collins a bone name, Yeah, because it was it
was bone, you know, the bone came from we wanted,
we wanted some like so we was Bone Enterprize and
we all had our individual names, but Bone.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Was our last name, right, Yeah, I got saying.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
So we was debudded out niggas ed day to brood
out niggas E Day, the Brothers on the normal elimination.
Any acronym you could think of, bone was it? So
that was our last name as a group, you know
what I'm saying. So that's why we all, that's why
Bone ended up being the theme of everything.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Is it true that Easy E wanted the court Yard
just thugs and Harmony.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah, so we had a song called Gangster harm and
Easy he wanted to call us, Uh, so we changed
it to Thugs and Harmony. And he wanted us to
change our name from Thug from Bone Enterprise to Bone
Thugs and I mean to thugs and harmony. But you know,
we had to fight for our last name. Like nigga,
you crazy, We bomb it's what it is. And he

(18:04):
was like bombed us in harmony and that's how that's.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
You know what you know what's crazy about that. That's
why I always say to people, disagreements is not bad.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Both won that agreement, that disagreement, yeah, okay, merge the
two things.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Okay, Okay, that that ended up being our whole science though,
like like it's five of us, so majority rule, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Like so even when East nineteen ninety nine E Turnal came,
it was like, you know, our diplomacy always worked for
each other. So somebody wanted East nineteen ninety nine, another
nigga wanted the Turner. Okay, put that shit together, boom happy.
So yeah, we mean we always been good with the
diplomacy within.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
You know, you got to win. It's a group that big.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
And let me ask you, right because like when you
when you see Snoop and Snoop first got down with
Dre right, Snoop took on that drama like full fledged.
It was like it wasn't even like it was Doctor
Dre's drama. It was like it was Snoops drama as well.
But he was a new artist, so this was like
a big task to take on. I want to ask
you the same thing like you guys, you know got

(19:13):
I think we touched on a little earlier, but we
ain't going to death like you know, you're getting down
with This is one of the for for lack of
a better term, this is one of the people that
people actually say is a gangster, right, Like this is
He's not playing the character, this is this is who
he is, right is there where he's like you you're
getting down with this man and saying, you know what,
I gotta kind of take on this beef because that's

(19:33):
kind of like how it is in hip hop. You
get down with a crew, you know what I mean,
you know, trying to say yeah, I mean, you know
we from We're from Cleveland, Ohio, Saint Clair, he's ninety nine,
Like it's pretty fucking gangster, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (19:47):
You know what I mean where I'm from with the lifestyle,
I come from. We wasn't thinking about that is whatever
he whatever you want to do, nigga, you want to
ride on these niggas you want? We was We probably
was the wow, this bunch of five niggas, Yes, and
your motherfucking life.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
You know.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
So when he, if he did, he didn't want us
to partaking that ship over the beat. He didn't want
us We was ready like whatever, like snoop ray whatever.
Like if you look at the nineteen ninety four source
of wars, like we rapping at them niggas like we didn't.
The Dog Pound was right there, my brother dad got

(20:36):
but yeah, we was at them niggas. But he wouldn't
let us do that. He sings so on and he
sings something more for us. He's to be like, man,
I'm telling you man, he'd be like, man, fuck that, man,
I see something more for y'all. But so he wouldn't
let us get in them beats, even though we did
have some fallouts with but with the Dog Pound too,
but he wouldn't. He wouldn't let us go full fledged

(20:58):
Saint Clair for a nigga nothing.

Speaker 2 (21:01):

Speaker 1 (21:02):
You know what I like about like the era and
I'm gonna say our era, right, I've come a part
of that. You came out ninety four, I came out
ninety seven. Right.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
If you ain't no, you ain't know, like beef was
between us, like.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
No one was going it was. There was no Internet.
Sorry to sound like the old niggas, I'm sorry, but
there wasn't. No there was no extra the internet for
a person to say, you know, I'm beefing with you
and then I'm gonna go to the Internet and do
something like that. Like if a person had a problem
back then, it was between y'all and the people who
knew that day, and that was pretty much it. Yeah, basically,
I mean if it was on and it was on,

(21:38):
I see you with songs, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Like I didn't even know we had a problem with
mob Deep. We was a someone this one.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I never heard this one. We was at some motherfucking
some warshow one of them, Sugar was loose at uh you.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Know that our era. Okay, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
You Sugar was loose. Yeah, I mean they so they moving.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Said kind of crazy shit.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
They moving niggas around throughout like you know, they coming
through so they gotta, so they put niggas in the closet.
We turned around. It's nabe nigga, these niggas. We Alosta
had some type of beef with these niggas. I never
knew what it was.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Get the funk out of here, know what I'm saying.
But according to the the people who be hyping ship up,
they was hyping some things up.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
But ship we end up in the closet with these
niggas and ship about to hit it out.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Like damn, these niggas my size. I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
But yeah, I mean our era was a motherfucker going
to the war shows, all that ship back then. You
miss it, though, bro, me too.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
I miss it. Like we had Warren sap here and
he was talking about the times that he was in
the football league and I was sitting here listening to him.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Talking about football and how football was rough.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Back then, and like how you missed it. I was
just sitting back to this women. This is like, yo,
I missed my fucking era too, Like I I missed
the rough era.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
I missed.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
I don't, I don't. I don't like this Internet ship.
These guys catch a beefing no that you really didn't
know what the fuck was gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
So you when you when we went out, you know,
it was like the adrenaline was high and everybody was
fly as drenaline was high, and Ship it was then
was the day.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
So let's let's let's talk it back to the seventh grade.
This is when you met Crazy Bone. Yeah, so so
how does this link up? How do y'all link up? So?

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Ship, I met Cray and you have two other members
in a group that's your family members, right right, blood
fast I.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Met I met Crazy Bone and at home economics seventh grade,
we're fucking around in class, you know, everybody rapping around,
and Ship, I'm beatboxing. I used to be box, me
and my brother, so Cray rapping one one day, I'm
beatboxing for ing. He like, man, I got this class.
I got a class in a nigga in English class.
I want you to challenge right, And this this when

(23:58):
we was just just want to know I would be
box and so he like, I want you to challenge
this nigga. I'm like, cool, you know what I'm saying.
So we go out, We go out. I take the challenge.
This nigga done.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Pointed out my brother Flesh and Bond.

Speaker 1 (24:13):

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, I'm like, nigga, that's my brother. So me and
my brother was the I was Steve Beaton, he was
Beatie Rock. We was the Twin Towers and we beatboxing
and wrapped a little bit. And then that's when I
met Craig and my homeboy Kate Chill and home Egg,
and then we formed the band Aid Boys from that
little union right there, seventh grade niggas like twelve years old.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
And then we went from having house parties.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Man, my mama let me have house parties and shipped
back seventh grade every weekend.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Selling hot dogs and ribock.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, ohe you know what I'm saying, Cod forty five,
tell him, you know, d Williams having a hot party.
So we did that all through junior high as the
band Aid Boys, the band Aids Boys.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
You want to bring back back the band Aid Boys.
So you're thinking that Nellie's bitch and ship. He might
have heard about it.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
It was, you know, we used to wear the band
aid up.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Nelly. We gotta have a compensation, bro a conversation, Nellie,
that ship we get all wear band we get all
the bandaid boys. But let me ask you, when you
did see Nellie do that, did you think did you
think he's as by it? I ain't even have to
think if people around me said it so fast? Oh
that going on with you? Know what I love about you?

(25:43):
I love the growth of you, man, you know what
I'm saying. Like I was telling you, I was like, yo, yo,
you know time used to be a wild boy like
and I.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Just I just see the growth in you.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
You know what I mean, I got to see you
know what that that that's excellent. Let me let me
let me just say that, you know, like like, let
me tell you something. The person that's poison, the person
that that that been through it all. That's that's a
person who speaks, you know what I'm saying, volumes when
they when they talk. And I just I just love
seeing the growth of you, man, like real.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Appreciate it. So look, flowers.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Our show is about giving people they flowers, but they
can smell them. They thought so they could tell them
they drinks where they can drink them, and they flowers.
So we wanted to give you a snoop said is
better than the Grammy because it comes from his people.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
You know what I'm saying. For second Desh, that's right,
But I do.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Wars though I do, mister Sauce Wars Dave Made. We've
been saying this a couple of times. I'm glad you
see his passion when he's talking about the wars, like
I wanted, because it's not just.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Us like that was that was an error?

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah yeah, yeah, it's no Internet, but there was the
Source magazine and that was a few places you might
hear about some stuff.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
You know, what's walked up. And I thought about this
the other day.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
You know, the magazine's probably caused as much beef as
it does nowadays. Right, Like so, for instance, as supposed
has this beefing with Kareem right and has says man
Kareem main ship, right, and then and then Kareem gets
on the phone with him and they squashed it, right,

(27:29):
But the article comes out three months later and it's like, yo,
why did we even squash it? So I kind of
thought about it.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
The other day. I was like, they credit.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
The Vibe that Vibe cover for starting East Coast West
Coast Wow, which was never really a thing.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
It was just cruiser didn't like each other.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Speaking of that, like, how did how do you guys
never got caught in the East Coast West Coast?

Speaker 3 (27:50):
I mean basically we stood our ground. We from Cleveland, Ohio,
you know what I'm saying. So we me and West
we felt like we grew up with. You know, in
the eighties it was Big Daddy came.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
It was biz.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Marking, you know, that whole era.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
You know, Slick Rick bdp all that, Like, we had
that era we had growing up in the eighties.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
So before West Coast was even booming like that, because
West Coast wasn't booming like that until what Dope Man came.
I was like nineteen eighty six, eighty seven at Cleveland,
you know what I mean. But by that time we
was already engulfed and hip hop from the East coast ship.
But you know what I'm saying that we knew what

(28:34):
was up, and then when that happened, we were selling
dope too, so you know what I'm saying. So that
kind of took over bus So it was like the
East Coast, West Coast, we always was.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
A neutral thing to it, you know what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
But they caught y'all Midwest. Yeah, they called us Midwest,
but we northeast Ohio. Y'all know, east Man.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
We claim y'all we're gonna make Burrow.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, we're gonna We're.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Gonna got the Trump though.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
You know what I'm saying. But yeah, that's the Midwest ship.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Like we happened to stay out of that ship because
we was like, first of all, he didn't want us
and his beef with dog Pound Broad and all that.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
So when it came to that amazing you got credit,
he was yeah, because I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I would have been like get him young boys.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah, And we were and we was friends with like
Fat Joe, you know what I'm saying, relativeically to Steve Lobell. Steve,
we ain't really be We had became family with East
Coast niggas. So it was our thing, like we ain't
getting in that. We that ain't us, you know what
I'm saying. So that's how we that's how we kept it.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
That is that is dope.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
But but let's just be clear.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
The two people that was the head of quote unquote
this East Coast West Coast, even though it was imagine
everybody was.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Something that happened two biggest people. Y'all have records with
them both at that scene time, like everybody received backlash
if he was on that side or if he was
on that side, like even my brothers Cocho brother Smith
in Western if it was like even by just being
on the record, what it seemed like, Okay, they took
they chose parks side like but y'all, like y'all, no

(30:17):
one could say that about y'all because they had to
park and big at the same time at Day's War.
I think there's no other group in the history that
that that has done that that's makes a noise for that.
Let's let me also ask you the question because that's genius,
because that means y'all really had to like man, y'all
business like like or do you tell me?

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I mean, no, we we really did well.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
We was on the West Coast, so you know, like
most people think we're.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
From I think that they would put you on the
West coast. They think we're from the West coast, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
But you gotta understand from the fight with Wouchang back
or like a decade before that or however long however
that long ago there two years before that, so We
was friends with Biggie, but you know what I mean,
Like he got us.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Out of that brawl that death right, that's what you did,

Speaker 3 (31:04):
So we was friends with method Man, we were friends
with different niggas, like we had already started relationships.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
In the game.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
So, but niggas thought we was from the West Coast,
you know what I mean. But for some reason, like
I think it's a guy given thing where we just
really didn't have.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
No funk from that ship.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
And I think because the songs were so goddamn strong
on both sides, you know what I mean, pop with
the gunshots and Biggie's doing the style like because really,
motherfucker's in New York. We did shows that b B
Kings and ship like this. Niggas used to be looking
at us in New York like, Okay, well you know

(31:43):
what I'm saying, Nigga, O, niggas, don't clap, don't gi.
But then after that, after big did that ship, it
was like, Okay, Bob coming to town, Nigga, We're gonna
sell this bitch out. Before that, nigga, it was rough
trying to in New York, like nigga y'all ain't no
that Nigga is New York. Niggas and Nigga worried up.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
You know, it's crazy. We're working out this morning, this
ship and the park record come on and all my
white nighbors come out this this this is the time
they want to come out. Let's I'm like, oh my god,
they just looking. I'm just like, oh, I can't turn
it off, like we just kept working out.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
I'm sorry, but.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Boom quick time.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
I want to go back to that tone look time
that you met him, Like how did you connect with him?

Speaker 2 (32:38):
And what was the situation.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
When you actually met him, because I saw some of
the interviews did when you talk about it, but I
feel like you I just want to imagine his face.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
When he met all.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Y'all.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Well, when we first tried to get on with him,
it was like some ship out the scene of a movie,
like you know, because Niggas showed us where he lived.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Some niggas.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
We was in the mass field. We was in the
mass to a crip area and ship living over there.
Niggas took us to his house and we knock on
the nigga door, ringing his doorbell. It's like probably eight
in the morning, you know what I mean, Like this
nigga don't know us. So he sent some niggas outside,
what's going on, like we want to rap for you?

Speaker 2 (33:15):
And he come out with the blunt and his mother.
He was like, man, what the niggas my house.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
He's like, Nigga, the fuck from my motherucker, you know
what I'm saying. Then, but he let us rap. He
was like, yeah, that's all right. We don't come to
my mother fucker, you know what I'm saying. So that
was that we had to get away from that nigga house.
I ain't realize what we did till later on because
that shit happened to me. Nigga showed up in my
doors like man, like so you get it, get it, like, nigga,

(33:47):
get the away from me for what you do.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
We popped up, but no, we seeing him like a
couple of years later and reminded him like, man, yeah,
we was the niggas.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
That showed up to ya.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
He he was like, bonne, I wish I could have
did something for y'all niggas, man, But you know he
remembered that ship.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
That's what fucked me up. Yeah, I would imagine he
would remember that. We was. Yeah, we was dusty, he
was was fresh off.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Uh, we was living homeless out there was We was
looking like some wild boys popping up at somebody's house
and pretty nice house nigga was living.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
That's so so you said someone knocked on your door once.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yeah, a couple of niggas came to my house looking
for a record deal and ship like that.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
How does this work?

Speaker 3 (34:34):
We're happening well, because I'm gonna tell you a story
about a guy named powder P.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
He popped up at crazy barb house.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Powder P from ghetto.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Cowboy you bed to come to money, Uh, the white
boy from there, he played powder pe. Okay, he popped
up and he actually got on. He didn't work out
so well for other people.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
You know what I'm saying. Motherfucker's had it, got cussed
out wrong time. But he made it, made me, made
me move behind the fence for a while.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
You know, nigga was two goddamn famous. That's crazy, Ben.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
There happened to you.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
That's why I don't living houses no more. I can't
stand it.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Yeah, that's how he got the crazyhood. He popped up
on the pulse crib. Yeah, he hopped fence on y'all. No,
he just knocked on the door. You know, I want
to get signed.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Okay, yeah, yeah. This was in the nineties too. You
know that's when Nigga first was learning the game. Right,
all right, you think you think Lebron gonna come back
to Cleveland? I mean, I will hope he would, like
this is because he just got swept, right right, What
else is he to do? I mean.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
It's like, I mean honest, like this is one of
my favorite players.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
And I'm team Lebron James.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Like he got swept, but he ain't doing so bad,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
But let's go. Let's go with your kid, Let's go
to Cleveland for this last year raised economy. Like you
know what I'm saying. If you lose this.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Time it listen, Cleveland, I gave it to my own.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
I'm sorry, I'm cold. I'm taking my aspect of that
squad here. If they can keep a core that squad
right there, pretty sure they could do that. Okay, Now,
I ain't gonna lie. I know I sounded like I
was playing earlier.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
But for real, if Lebron was to come back it
sounded like a four year contract, maybe a two year
contract right with his son, and.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Just to end that ship in Cleveland like that, that'd
be an NBA And it doesn't matter if he wins
or not. It doesn't matter, Like it's just him to
come back for the city. And like, for me, that's
like the ultimate basketball I do not care if he wins.
I would go watch those games, yeah, because it's it's
like it's like he's put in the city and he's
putting his childhood in front of all the luxury and

(37:01):
the riches that he has now. And I think that
that's an honorable story. Not listen, Lebron, if you're listening,
I don't think you are. But if you're listening, I'm
not saying to do that, but I'm saying that'll be
one of the ultimate Yeah send Therella stories.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
I don't want him to get the fifth ring man,
like I think he can do it. I think, yeah,
need to be surrounded by it. Let's let's let's say, uh,
what's that's just called scenario?

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah? Yeah, you keep Mitchell, Okay, you might have to
give up. See, we need them trees down here, man,
we you know what I'm saying big boys.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Yeah, we need them, mobiley Jared Allen. If we keep
them too and keep Mitchell, give us another well yeah,
give us another.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Point guard, rookie, rookie. Okay, well even let little baby,
let Brianie run them.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, one just experiment with you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
But yeah, I think he can get one though with
those with those three, him and those three and the
nice core.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah, because Brin's strong as fuck. Still, let me ask
you because.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
I've heard of it.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
I never got to see Lebron play when he was
in Cleveland. How was the morale of him coming back
to coming to Cleveland playing for Cleveland?

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Like, how was it?

Speaker 1 (38:28):
How was it different? How was the city different?

Speaker 3 (38:31):
I mean, I mean coming from Cleveland, like our sports
are always disappointed. Really, you know what I'm saying, Like
Bonn does a harmony? Was the we was the hope
in the light.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yeah, y'all was like a football team. So we was
just was a franchise ourself. Yeah, we was.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
We were the ones that was that had made it
thus far.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
But then when it came to like the NBA put
on it with Lebron Jane, it was like our city
was like everybody. It just motivated the whole city. Man,
Like Lebron changed everything. But we went from niggas, you know,
depressed and selling dope to niggas trying to you know,
ship boot legg and Lebron t Ship's a whole other.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Right.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
The energy picked up though, So, man, Lebron here, He'll
always be loved, you know. Like even when he left,
there was a lot of niggas hating because that was
that was our hope.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
So they hated, you know. Yeah, but they do that
to people who even from that town when they when
they leave. So I guess this was like an extra
emotional because him being a homegrown raised kid.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah yeah, yeah, we he can do it.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
We could do it.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yes, yes, yes, it's a quick time.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Okay, cool, Sonny you want to man, come on, Sonny,
got a drink for me?

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Come on, you're gonna just jack Bards to see.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Paul's not here, right, Yeah, Now, Paul would have loved
the sports questions.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
Yeah, so this is gonna be our drinking game. Now
we're gonna ask you two questions, give you two.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
You gotta make a drink.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
It's for you.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got I got to walk choices.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
You pick one, we don't drink. You say both are
neither we drink and all.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Of us drink.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Say that again.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
We'll give you two choices. If you pick one of
the choices, we don't drink, nobody drinks. If you say
both or neither, like you really don't want to answer
the question, then we just all take a shot. But
we really just want whatever we bring up. Just stories cool,
that's what it's, all right, poker big.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Both both.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I mean, I gotta drink.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
You can Seeah, we're all gonna drink.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Cheers.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
I don't know what, I don't know, but easy or
Jay Prince Easy?

Speaker 4 (41:03):
Oh, we're not taking mob deeper m O, p mob deep.
It's easy for me, twister A tech nine both Okay,
I picked some thick some.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Who creeping on them?

Speaker 4 (41:26):
Come up nineteen y ninety Turner, Uh, nineteen ninety nine,
eternal damn I both.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Trying to give me fuck. No, I would have said, good.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Doze.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
Effects of foods, chickens, that's effects you met that effects
of y'all interacted, uh real briefly.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
But you know I used to uh I used to
do that ship in my in my you know what
I'm saying good Bo's think of the box.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, I was into the album the other day.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
I think they their music was there man fush nickas, Yeah, we.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Don't approves move both those groups, both groups. We need them.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
Both want to drinks. Yeah, absolutely big a one yellow
wolf for m g K m g K because he's
from the town. Uh huh absolutely e P M D
or run DMC. Oh wow, man, come on, cheers.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
You gotta fill that up. Triple yeah, crucial conflict or
do or die?

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Oh right, no limit or cash money mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (42:58):
I am oh damn both man, I got.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
M Yeah, it is a fresh bachelor buster eminem Yeah, tripping.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Man, God, what it is? All right? Both? I see
how y'all designed these questions.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
That's these guys over there, the Dominicans in the Columbia.
Stevie Wonder alone, Ritchie Stevie Wonder. You think Stevie could see?
I think he can.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
I think he can see better than what they say.
He might not think, because you know, you can be clearly.
I went to a Stevie Wonder shower and he couldn't
find that motherfucker right there?

Speaker 1 (44:04):
What what?

Speaker 2 (44:04):
What?

Speaker 1 (44:05):
What? What's the first time.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
You know, he they you know, he be set up.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
They got the thang right here and it was pulled
out a little bit and he couldn't see that. Me
and my girlfriend rowing ship looking at it like I'm like, damn,
they got Stevie fucked up.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
They need to push my nigga ship over. So Stevie
blind Steve.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Crossing the street.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Yeah, you might remember.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
That type of ship, you know, Drake or Kendrick.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Both of them. I really like both of them niggas
though you look like sop ain't nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
Our cast three six Mafia, our cast Travis Scott or
Kid Cuddy, kid cutting because he's from the town.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Because he's from the town, and I like Kid Cuddy
to that nigga. That's why k Cutty Football get a
lot of inspiration from him. I forgot Ki Cutty from
out this n w A Wu tang n w A
all day. That's a great question. Though I love that question.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
I actually don't think it's a great question.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
I love a question because I feel like Nigga's.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
On tour, he took back his death.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
But I think it's a great question because and I'm
not talking about like the comparison of group members. I'm
talking about impact impact impact wise that like like I said,
like n w A changed the way I looked at
West Coast, the way I looked at music and and
and n w A changed it back to how I
originally looked at music.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
You know what I'm saying. So it went back like
you know what I mean, Like.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Like yeah, like hearing people talking about guard bodies and
swords at the same time. No, it was weird and dop,
like holy.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Ship, I know the guard boy this ship. But the
niggas told them they both changed the game. They ninjas
and ship good uh m j or Prince.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Definitely bof you ain't meet you ain't meet Prince though,
right I met. I met Prince in the airport one time,
just to shake his hand though, and that was it.
Though I couldn't believe the nigga had on high heels
at the airport. At the airport, like that's not out though, right,
It's like, because you know I used to have.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
That that nigga had on. He was little as fucked
believe it until you said it was diesel. When you
were like that like they coat on, you said it
was high hells and diesel. But it's high Hell's in
the nigga had some high hell moon boats on or
some shit.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
It's crazy. You remember Prince Cleveland Cleveland? Okay, wow, wow, nigga,
that's Prince Nigga.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Nigga had on high hell moan boats.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Go ahead, Sonny, that's got Cleveland Indians or Cincinnati Reds.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
You said Cleveland Indians, Cincinnati Reds.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Cleveland Indians, not even the Guardians, but you know they
made us change our names.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Oh yeah, the Guardians, Guardians and ship. You know, it's
classic Major League you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
Or the movie the movie Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
What's the difference, like to say, for somebody that doesn't
live in Ohio, the culture of Cincinnati and the culture
of Cleveland, what's the difference?

Speaker 3 (47:59):
I mean, I really can't speak to the culture of Cincinnati.
You know, I got I've been down there. I kicked
it a few times and all that. But Cleveland from
what I know, you know what I'm saying, it's just
like Cleveland is the roughest, it's it's got the most
black people.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
It's it's rough.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
You know, the the dynamics of Puerto Ricans and all
that type of stuff. So it's like Cleveland is predominantly
black from where I'm from.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Yeah, I think we I wouldn't. I don't know. I don't.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
I can't even speak on Cincinnati. I just know. I
just know Cleveland. I just know Cleveland run that state.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Let's make the nerves sunny, new one. I already know
what he's gonna say.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Lebron or Jordan.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah, I'm Lebron all day.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
What's your answer?

Speaker 2 (49:01):
I'm curious. I ain't never seen you in the pair
of Lebrons in my life. The first kicks your youngest.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Son, motherfucker, that is that sho is just legendary, Like
that's crazy, Like yeah, yeah, but I'm not to tell
you true.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
That ship is legendary.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
The fact that he's playing with his kid, it didn't
even matter whether he win, lose or draw. The fact
that you you, you stick around long enough that you
can like hold out and you can play with your
son in.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
The playoffs like that is crazy. Biggest win ever.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
It's the biggest win ever. Agree with your son and
your son, bro anything, rather build anything.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
The moms in the in the crowd like the Grandma's
all that, like the family like that.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
In my mind there's people barbecuing, like you know what
I'm saying, Like in my mind, like I know that's
not really would happen, Like that's something you know what I'm.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Saying, Like that's some hood ship right there, Like I
like that.

Speaker 5 (50:07):
Bro, I got so much and man, real ship just
mom idiots.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Well I'm from that era. But the blonde man, the consistency, you.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Know, the same guy pay when it's like you know
that god man, but you're not the same guy. Ahead
l A New York, l A.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
L A all day.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
This last one to get back into an interview. Loyalty
or respect.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Respect, Respect over everything, man, you know what I mean, Like,
because a person can't really be loyal to you if
you if they don't respect you. You know, I mean,
so you got to put respect above anything that you do.
Once you have respect and you know how to go
about dealing with people and how to be loyal to

(51:12):
somebody because you respect the environment they're bringing you into
or whatever the case may be. So respect gonna always
take presidents over anything else on earth.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
You know, respect me, you don't you don't have to
like me.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
You don't have to love me, but you're gonna respect
the niggas, you know what I mean. Whatever size you
think you is, whatever wealth you think you accumulated, like
you would not, you will never treat me without respect,

Speaker 1 (51:42):
So I think respect is everything before anything. And that's
just how I rob now.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Years ago, right, thank you. We were going through like groups,
right and.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Uh, like how hard it is to work with certain groups, right,
And it was unbeknounced to me that me and Mob
Deep was on this like this list, like they're like yo,
even though it's two man groups, hard to work with,
like hard to like, you know, to get together, like
although it's like.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
A two man group, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Like you know, he had the sicker cell and have
will go do his own things. So sometimes it's getting
them two together. It's just it's just it's different.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
I had a solo career, you know, Paul had.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
His solo career to get get us together.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
And when I said difficult to work with, I didn't
mean difficult to work with.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
I meant difficult to just get.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Together, you know what I'm saying. Whatever, exactly what you said,
And then wu tang or what was there?

Speaker 1 (52:51):
And then y'all were there.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Why do you think it's so hard to get all
all of y'all together? I mean, man, god damn.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
I mean, first of all, when grown men, like we
spent all our time.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Together as kids, right, you know what I mean, Like
we are like I'm talking about Nigga every day all
day for like eight nine, ten years, twelve years together.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
But like going to the room, we're going, we wanna,
We're gonna go to California. We huddled up Nigga, we
shouldered the shoulder, and then we started, you know, we
made it wow yep. And then some money came in,
you know what I mean. And then we start having children,
you know what I mean. Niggas got girlfriends, niggas lives

(53:40):
is expanding the whole time, you know what I mean.
But we we steadily were working at the same goal
when it was shoulder to shoulder, same room. You going
to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom in case
of his Nigga's trip type.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Now it's like, you know, you can get a security.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Guard with you shit. You know, you know at your
own Bentley, you ain't waiting for lazy bone to pick
you up in the car or you know what I mean,
or give you or put you on in no type
of way because it's all there now, you know what
I mean. So getting niggas together that doesn't spent the
bulk of their life worried about each other. Now niggas

(54:21):
got their own ambitions, want to do their own things,
you know, ideas and ship like that. So it's like,
how do you get these niggas together. It's damn there
impossible because everybody doing goods.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
You feel, that's what is it like your own success?
That's it called the enemy sometimes the enemy of your
own success. That's bone us and harm. We are the
enemies of our own success.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Because if we was the like transfer, if we was
to do our transformer ship, our motherfucking voute trying right
now against anybody in the industry, I guarantee you put
your money on bond. Because we all, we all polished,
we all been doing ship the whole time, you know
what I'm saying. So it's just a matter of coming together,

(55:10):
which is a hard thing, but not so much of
a hard thing because we do love the same ship,
and we do you know, we rock with each other.
We love each other.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
That's how. That's how we steal together.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Because if it wasn't, then we would have been beat
each other up, fell out, you know, which we have
done all that.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Ship too, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
But yeah, it's like, that's that's shit hard because I easy,
I can't I'm not even gonna sugar coat getting niggas together.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
They got their life together and it stuck in their
own ways and became.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
I'm doing this that day. Yeah, I know exactly how
that right now, I'm doing this exactly, exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Niggas is doing something else right that vote trying come
together when it do and right now.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
It seems like, you know what, it was crazy and
it seems you know, back in the days when you
you know, you get elder in the game and people,
you know, they want to raise you off. The thing
about it is, I want to give master appeal. You
see what master Pill is doing the legends where they
actually taking money because you know what these reculators would do,

(56:21):
they would sign Elder acts and won't put no money
into it because they're saying, you already have a built
in audience. All we have to do is just promote
to your audience, which is which makes sense that what
MASTERI Pill is doing is actually saying you're gonna cadency
a built built in audience, but we're also going to
put money into these new generations so they can actually
see you on on uh these playlists and all that.

(56:42):
And I just feel like, I think I feel like
what they set the level of you know, of.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
We have, especially with jay Z.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
With that four four four.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Album, like like you know what I mean, Like it's
like it's like.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
A whole space and if y'all ust to just get
back together and do that album all the other together
like go to Maui.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
And I did hit the toil, Like what do you
what do you.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Think would take for that to happen?

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Well, the process of Bonthus and Harmony has already begun.
It started when we start communicating with green Back Records,
you know what I'm saying, like just filling out different
avenues and things that we could do to really monetize
and benefit from all these goddamn years of you know,

(57:34):
going back and forth with all these companies.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
We went from twelve points.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
To have to you know, fifty percent of the album
to getting our publishing, like every level of the game,
we done been through it. So now it's like how
do we how do we really like because that's what
we what we do is music, what we love is
still music.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
But how do we maximize and get paid off that ship?

Speaker 3 (58:00):
So of course we're gonna go direct to our consumer,
but we don't need nobody, he said, Greenbackers green Back Records,
which is a company that we started off talking to
a couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
It's not kind of a ground exhebuit went through there
and all that.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
So we did a bunch of work over there, which
Bone does and harmony accumulated, that's the whole bone and
you know, and and we own our material.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
So the process is started.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Now it's about how we're gonna really market our ship
and put it out to where we reaped all the
benefits because with the with the circle we got across
the world, it's like all we gotta do is reach them,
and that's direct to consumer and not putting our ship
on d s DSPs.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Yeah, I got some ship out. I can show you
somethings I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
But you know, so.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
You're gonna you said, you to sell the album, but
It's not gonna be available on Spotify available. It will
be available on both Thugs Harmony dot com.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Yeah, it be available therect.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Like when I do my ship, it be on lazybone
dot com, dorectly pre orders and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
So I'm trying me out as to test dummy right now.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
So lazybone dot Com, I knew and the boss right,
but always been there, right, that had always been my
job is the mouthpiece. Easy he called, he come pick
me up, jumping the car. Come on, we gotta go
do this. And so I'm still playing my role.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
But you know, and the creation and Bone is like
we got fifty songs deep on a loo already, Wow,
forty forty songs. I can take an app I can
get I can start putting our albums right now. Wow.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
But the business aspect of Bone, Thugs and harmonyes, this
the thing We're gonna perfect this time because we always
we've been going to against the system the whole time.
But every since Easy He died, we was the most
unluckiest niggas in the game. Nigga, we put out a

(01:00:11):
hit song, now, mind you, Easy He put his album
out right, I mean, I mean he took his album
off the ship to put our shit out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Had he not did that, y'all wouldn't have heard the bomb.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
But how Unlucky is bombed was a harmony for the
nigga that put them out, the mentor that kept us
together and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Like we've been in.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
We've been attacked by the wolfs the whole time. It's
been us against whoever the whole time. You know what
I'm saying, So easy he died fifteen months into like
we didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
It wasn't no sign nigga. It wasn't like, oh he's sick,
he's gonna be fucked up. No, we're kicking it, rastling,
kicking about having a drink, toast to the.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Most he were gonna. You're about to say, more records
than dog pown nigga. That that's how we kick it.
And this nigga died one month HIV positive, second month
full blown, third month.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Gone, like we like what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
So bonn was left on they owned with all this fame, fighting,
fighting the fuck out of ruthless.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Record labels a mess after he passes. Yeah, I've been up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
I've been bucking against this system since then.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Mighty Mo thug. I did that Harmony house. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Solo records negotiations. Yeah, I was the first one over
at Cotch before Jim.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Jones got his job.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
They don't even know he needs to thank me for
that because I opened them motherfucking doors up for real,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Like Michael Kotch, when I went there was all Pokemon
pok that niggas was making money off Pokemon. God by
the name of Forrest Hamilton rest in peace, who also
passed away.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
But anyway, took me up there. You know, I got
the Cotch thing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Jumping Most of three was the first record we put
out over there. I did a whole bunch of solo shit,
you know. But I was fifty to fifty with Michael Kotch.
So my Independence ship was all right. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
What year was that, This was like two thousand and
three he made he was doing Independent fifty fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Kicking nigga out. Oh you want me to pop my
business shit listen. So the deal was crazy and busy guy.
They first solo deals. I negotiated that ship. The deal, uh,
the deal that fleshing bond when he went to death.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Jam I negotiated that ship.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Le York Cohens, and motherfucking DMC showed up in my
house trying to get Bone thugs in harmony nigga day like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
The DMC nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
My mama cooked this nigga some chicken and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
On some real ship.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
So all them deals like I was making deals before
I was before my time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
So that's why this time, you know, BONB fans just
gotta bear with us because this is gonna it's gonna
be right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
I want all of it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
You're gonna see it in my presentation for DASH and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
That's my new record. That's on your hat, Dashes.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
You know, it's the line between death, your birthdate and
your death date. So that's why I've been living with
my Dash doing my motherfucking thing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
That little line.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Right there, that's what I've been.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
That's what I'm representing and trying to make sure everybody
get the story right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
On Bone because we bros. Man. You know, I'm like,
I never it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Ain't nothing nothing can happen on earth that we ain't
gonna do our thing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
This ship is. It's really turn up type shit.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
So me on the business side, I don't negotiate some things, Okay,
put it like that, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Does it ever feel like you know, it's like like
you know, whether it's me and E or like me
a a pone or you know, like you know sometimes
like when you like you can get with your brother,
but then it's like it's it's business attached to it,
no matter what you want to, like just sit around
and just hey, what's up my man, how's the kids

(01:04:39):
doing or whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
But it's always something to talk about business.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
And it's like like when you get when you get
with your brother, is it ever awkward like that? You
know what I'm saying, Because like somebody's going to bring
up something someone like man, you can get a call
from the palladium.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
You know what, it's always something that's getting brought up.
But you know what, us going on stage together, that's
when the fuck we can forget about everything, you know
what I'm saying. Like, so that's why I say I
like stage better than anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
That time you blank out and get the.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Going, you know, you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
That chemistry kick and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
It's automatic, So you know what I mean, Like that's
the moments we live for.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
But you know, everything else just the regular challenge to the.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Right because I'm a part of this run club, and
the run club we say, you know what, whether we
had this or not, we'll still run outside tomorrow, right,
And it made me think, like, damn, you know what
I'm saying, Like, whether we had this or not, we
will still be friends. Whether me and Capone had this
or not, we will still be friends. But I always
woman this when we were friends, and it's like, although

(01:05:47):
life is beautiful, because sometimes I think about that, like,
like what what would life be like? You know what
I mean if the business never got involved, Because think
about it, like, like you guys all together, right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
The only reason why you guys probably.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Are not all together is because one everybody got families,
everybody got their own life, but also business at some
point changed it all. It's just it's just it's just
it just.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Does without even trying to.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
It's just like, remember there's a lot of blood family
there too, so they would see each other regardless.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
That's what I meant I said every word.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
But business of courses, the business that comes along with
the ambition, you know what I'm saying. So it's like,
but our ambition is bottom line, Bone is a place
that we all can go that we know that's successful
and that's safe and all that, but the business always

(01:06:44):
gonna get in the way.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
But bone always come first.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
In the long run, we go through, we go through
the fire, we fight that ship out, and then usually
this ship work out because it's meant to be. It's
kind of ordain what we be doing, win' that we
ain't playing this ship out.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
We took trips, we planned on't leave in California.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
To meet easy, but you know, the ship was working
and it just keep working, right, you know, even though
we fight like as individuals of trying to figure out
who wanted to do what and all that, we still
dog it's like it's meant to be.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
It's a chemistry.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Put it like that. Oh yeah, So it's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Kind of simple for us because.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
I see, I see, you know, I've been on a tall
ray quar what you know, most of them. But it's
always it's always a pleasure when you get to see
them together, right, you don't realize how you missed the whole,
you know, come out of me with together.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
And I'm telling you, it's the same thing for.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Y'all, like you know what I mean, Like like I
can imagine y'all just sitting around watching y'all, like watching
footage of y'all as kids, like y'all watching y'all as kids.
You know what I'm saying, Like I could just see that,
like you know what I mean, sitting down.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
And like you know what I mean, I just got jokes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
I'm sure y'all with each other, you know what I'm saying.
But yeah, you gotta, yo, bro, you gotta you have
a luxurious jo fucking career.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
I know you said the dark side of it, but
that's not what we see from the outside looking at so.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Like not not darkness.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
You know, everybody go through difficulties, right, That's all I'm
trying to be like, Bone got their own set of difficulty.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
But really, this ship is dope, right, Hell yeah, we
still have fun.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
By catches at them shows turn up.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
You know what I heard you say on a on
a interview recently, He was like, the first of the
month is a celebration.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Record it is.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
I didn't something.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
My ass just always sunk along. I'm not even realizing
it's the first of the money. The check, get that
check to come up. You didn't think I never until
he said that. That was always a celebration, right you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Know, ship, Like you know what I'm trying to say
is when I heard him describe it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Cross is the one that's a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
We'll get to that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Hold on on, we get to that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
As to the money, exactly for the hustles that you
get money, you know what I mean, because.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
The first and fifteenth is when the text come.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Right, your money, double that ship up barbecue.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
I didn't get my check on the first. I got
him in the fifteenth. Still to this day, the fifteenth
right now up, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Sorry, sorry, so please please so all right, so y'all
go in the studio. This beat his playing and what
so who comes up with this? I mean we will.
We're in the studio. I mean, should be so long ago.
I forget who's saying, what's it the first of the month? Yeah,
it was the first. What's the first of the month
when you made the first of the money?

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
We had a song about the first because.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
The first.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Keeping ship is true.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
It's like we just when we in the studio, we
just buy it might be chance going on, It might
be it might be Cray, it might be me it
might be wishing might. You never know where it's coming from.
I don't remember exactly who came up with that chance
to that beat, but you know what I mean, it's
like and that's what stuff because it's true. Man, probably

(01:10:29):
was we was probably thinking about getting a check or something.
That's how that ship happened. Man, motherfucker First of the month.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Yo. You know y'all records are timeless, but they played missless.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Yeah, I know that's real.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
When you grew up in the projects, you know what
I'm saying, and you you wrap in sing you come
up with ship like first of the month.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
You know what I'm saying. No, no, what y'all was
talking about? Fucking food STAPs came. So when we spoke
about that earlier across the.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Worlds, I believe what's the Williams Nah, that wasn't Williams
because this was this was a me and Olive. This
was this was.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Like one point five that was up there, Like I believe,
y'all was the most expensive video at that time at
that time, I believe, so it was something.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Like that was it was up there.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
It was it was about a million point five million
dollar production. But that was the first time you really
seen like my nigga, the nigga that was Ken Dog
was disappearing and the kogie seeing the black angel with
the wings come out, seeing Easy Eve walking up the
mountain them effects.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Right now, you can do that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Ship and that mountain that back then that it was
like cutting eggs. Yeah, that happened, some ship from them
niggas getting money.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
That's what you like. You look at that, you like them.
Nigga spend a lot on that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
Motherbucker spended about one point five had to recoup that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
You go through that, you know, I you know I
had a video for one point one. I didn't know
I had to recoop this ship. I'm sitting there drinking Louis.
The third teag ordering Crystal Bunchet was already said, anyways,
you're top. It is nigga. If they would have told me,

(01:12:26):
you know, you got to pay back every single one
of these dollars, I wouldn't have been drinking Louis not
forty five, you know, But all right, cool? Sorry, the
people come to you, come to you guys and said
Crossroads have to be the biggest video in hip hop history.

(01:12:46):
You guys are saying, what I mean when they they
said it had to be or did they know? How
did they know?

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
I'm just being animated, I'm sorry, a big bunch of videos,
Like how did the label present was label? I did
speak one point five?

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
It definitely wasn't presented like, oh, yeah, this is a
big budget, it's gonna be great.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
He wasn't no numbers brought up and ship at that time,

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
But it's gonna be great and all that, and it
was gonna be a big video. But we knew that
because of the song and what what the song was representing.
Like we just when we when we saw the video,
we was mind blown. Again, it's nineteen ninety six, so
of course we wasn't the business side of it, but

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we wasn't acclimated with where we should have been. But
that shit just it blew our mind. We didn't know,
We didn't know they were spending all that goddamn money,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
But it was we had a dope ass video and
this motherfucker is different and you know, and we're finish
do something. That's what we knew.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
And then when was the moment you found out you
got to be cooped.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
This found that out shortly after, you know what I mean,
because you got to remember easy he had just passed
to Meeker writing Michael Klein. They was fighting for the
company and all that shit. So all our shit was
in court for a minute. Oh that's why I forgot that,

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
So we was in they was in court for minutes.
So come.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
Nineteen ninety seven, when it's time for us to do
a new album, that's when Nigga learned that, Okay, now
you gotta recoup because we had like a some millions
of dollars where it was a budget, but this other
budget had leaned over into this new budget which had
lessened that budget. And they was you know, they was
piggybacking everything off, everything with the with the royalties and publishing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
And all that shit. That how they was robbing the
fuck out of us, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
Like so they had part of your publishing to label. Yeah,
rufus had a piece of our publishing in the beginning.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
After selling, after we sold millions, we we renegotiated that back,
you know what I mean. But yeah, but it wasn't
ain't none of our ship been easy man. Come from
easy but now easy, you know. I mean, it's all
been a lesson, lessons learned. The more you go through

(01:15:18):
this ship, the better off you're gonna be on your
motherfucking all.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Trust me, A lot of people all have that same story,
right obviously me I have the same story. We always
look at it like, you know what we sided this
first deal. It might not be the best, but you
get in the door that's got to get You had
to get any door back then, but we didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
You had to get in there noise.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Yeah, so what I'm saying, so so I add to it.
If you didn't do it, then it might not you
must maybe we're not here now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
So we had to take that elevator.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
We had to do that Roller Coast Society.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
Yeah so so so so how do we tell a
young person right now, like you know, both of us
consider the OG and this young person comes over with us,
says man lazy man or I bother signed to star
Warck is trying to to big Ice redits, Big Ice records,

(01:16:23):
and I'm like Ice, yeah records right, and we're like damn,
And he's like, yo, man, this and such. But we
know that there's one opportunity. If he does make it,
he might not make the money that he wants, but
he can put in that position because the one thing
they can't take it away from you is fame. Once

(01:16:43):
you become famous, you want you a Brandan brand is
something that can't take that away from you. So that's
the reason why brand.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
Yes, So that's the reason why they are careful now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
And they don't have artists development. They want the artists
to develop theirself. So that's why it's different. And the
artists like, so, how do what do you say to
the little who's the ice cue, little ice little ice cube,
little ice cube, as is made right? What do you
say to him?

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
He says to you, man, lazy, I got this deal man,
and I know I could go to the next way.
Do you let me not even be like okay, yeah,
he'll be like to look coming up to.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Do yah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Don't do that, no, man, I just you know, an
artist these days, a youngster these days got way more options.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
Than we had.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
So my first thing I'm gonna tell him is, let's
way your options out thoroughly, and then before you decide, like,
just just don't jump off out the tree.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Don't be hasty, haste, haste, make weights. I give him
the whole spear.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
Don't would just take your fucking time like they offering
it to you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Now that's there, the offer is there. Now let's just
weigh your options out. But because if they offer you that,
that might be a quick fix. But if you take
three years to do this and you own everything, niggah,
if it takes you three years to have all your residuals,
all your your intellectual properties, you want everything publish. If

(01:18:27):
I was managing these little niggas, it'll be on and cracking.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Don't holler at me, still doing my ship.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
But but I remember master Piece trying to lend his
expertise to certain people, certain people you know taking it,
but certain people not like you know, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
What's the crazy thing?

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
And this is this is this is.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
My personal question asking you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
If the kid knows who I am and I meet him,
but if the person don't really know who I am,
I'm not interested in introducing myself, bro, Like I'm not
interested and I'm not saying I'm not fucking with the
hy n is, but I was one of them niggas,
and I know when I walk off, he's gonna be
like that old motherfucker. I know this. That was me

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right right to the ndcon.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
I didn't understand.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
So I'm not saying I don't mess with him, but
I almost I almost.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Understand that fucking logic.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
Because when you when you get your first little record
and you popping, you think this first.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Off, you think this feeling is gonna last forever. They
don't understand that feeling is like a crackhead.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
That's fifteen seconds and then you're gonna go on and
make another one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
But if like, like, do you fuck with this young generation,
let's that's a better question, because I don't. That's a
pivot that weird. I like some of them. I like
some of us.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Broad stated, you want.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
To be honest, like some of them. I was like, man,
I hope, I hope it's above. I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
I like a lot of them. You can't put it
on the whole generator. That's a whole generation.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
Overall, the mentality of it all. I don't like it though,
But like you know what I mean, I think these
niggas do need artists developed. Yes, I think they do
need to learn how to listen. I think they do
need to appreciate who put these stones up for you
to build the building that you're building. Like so certain
things I don't agree, but I do see see a

(01:20:31):
whole lot of talent. It's just motherfuckers don't want to
listen because everything is right here. Like you know, maybe
if you can make them to listen to people that
have been there before them, or you know, had the
wisdom been there that have been there, done that, nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
You know what I'm saying. If maybe, if, But.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
A lot of times I don't fuck with them. A
lot of times I do. So I got kids in
this music shit now, you know, so I try to
tell them.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Like I like what you did with for this, Like
I believe he sampled Biggie. He said that y'all try
to charge.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Him and that's that's impossible because that was belonged to the
bad Boy. That's bad Boys Ship.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
But I like, I like how you didn't blow your
cool like you did that far you did didn't see
that part.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
It was it was in private.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Okay, I'm wrong the niggas man, but no, it's just
like when I thought about it and ship, I'm sitting
in my bed, I'm chilling, like these little niggas just
really don't know call.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
Him a grasshopper, believe yeah, grasshopps.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
Yeah, when you called somebody your grasshopper, that's actually like
giving them up, like like yeah, it's a come full reference.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
It's not actually actually this, it's like you know what
I mean signing you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
Yeah, I'm just letting you know, nigga, I respect your elders, niggah,
it's more respect your elders. And I've been here before,
you know before you so from the game of respecting, right,

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
So that's that's all that was. I just had to
let the little nigga know, like, I like what you did.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
But but you know what I'm saying, we don't own
that ship, right, educating still wing crazy, But let's say
these little niggas crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
But you think there was this record label who actually said,
you know, Bone Dougs is trying to charge you, or
you think he just got fed some false information and
just ran with it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
I mean, I don't know if he did his due diligens. Yeah, yeah,
you know what I'm saying. You gotta do your due
diligen all right.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
So I didn't ask you this earlier. But I feel
like I know the answer to this. We always have
this on Quick Time of Slim, but they didn't have
it this time. But I think I know the answer
to this. What do you like more making the record
or performing the record?

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
I like performing the record.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
I mean I'm in love with the whole process though,
like I love making music. Man, like now that technology
then to turn it to I wake up all my
middle of the night, go down in my studio, record
me some ship.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
You know what I'm saying. Bars and chill out and
do another four bars like it ain't remember you remember
sixteen sixteen?

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
Now you got your own studio. Now winding the whole,
the whole, the whole black doesn't have our moment. You
have to do the whole verse, you remember. If you
have to punch it in, you have to tape it, yeah,
and cut it with the right vibe. If you won't

(01:23:52):
go all the way through it, man, holy ship, let
me ask you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
You get to speak to and hang with Tupaca get.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
For a week, but you knowing that the mos is
gonna come, what would you do different hanging out?

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
Damn well, man, I'll basically be I'll be in this
ear like God, we gotta live long, man, we gotta
we gotta focus on the business. You know what I'm saying,
Like anything that's distracting, I would have just been telling me.
But that's that's the type of person I am. Though
I could see the bullshit coming. I'dnet been through so much. Man,

(01:24:45):
I've been shot, stabbed, kick punched, selling my dope the
first of the month, all that old. I did it
all so I could see it coming. I popped, Oh man,
we need to slow down. Let's let's get these movies.
Movies just are That's what I'm putting on the table,
you know what I'm saying. So I was just keep
encouraging him to stay focused on You know, I definitely

(01:25:07):
wouldn't been promoting fuck just when and fuck that one.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
You know what I'm saying is wasting time. Let me
ask you this, because it's not a lot of people
that we were having to show that met POC, had it,
met Biggs.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
But work with them and work with them.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
But let me al just ask you a question about
stayed on pot for a second. The people that we
know we interviewed, we asked him, what's that, what's the
difference between pop down with Digital Underground and pop down
with Death Roads.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
I ain't never get the meat pop so off, I'm
just you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Did you know that the ground park?

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
Yeah, I mean I would just say, uh, Digital Underground
pop was young and less experienced. And then the other
pop had been through some ship, went to jail being
accused of rape and and you know, had a change
where he started growing as a man. The other one
was a young kid coming out of school. He went

(01:26:03):
to I think he went to Baltimore, you know what
I'm saying. So he knew acting, he knew he was
an educated man. So, but he was young and then
some shit happened and he had to grow up from that,
and that's what developed into the man in him. So
life is phases, man, you know what I mean. That

(01:26:24):
was the kid back there when he was let's do
the hump in the hump. He was young, you know
what I mean, He was developing, he was becoming. Then
he became and that's who that was, you know what
I mean. And we didn't get a chance to see,
you know what I mean, you know what I'm saying.
So and I know that because it seemed like to me.

(01:26:45):
Life change every seven years. You look up and things
it's a little bit different. It's a new technology. We
podcast and we're doing this, we're doing that. But I've
been watching that since I was seven years old, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
So I got my own science to this ship.

Speaker 4 (01:27:03):
But what were you guys feeling as a group seeing
the pocket big thing going back and forth and then
where it ended up, Like how was that affecting you guys?

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
Well, it was tripped out to me because I have
remembered them niggas being friends, you know what I mean.
Like I heard niggas talking about they was friends, and
like the stories I was hearing was they was like this,
you know what I mean. And then when all the
shit happened, Remember I forgot that with the shooting and

(01:27:37):
that the studio and on and then so for me, man,
it was just like that shit just unfortunate. It ain't
it's hard to talk about because it ain't ship.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
We could do that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
That's gonna change nothing, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
But we know niggas in this game should not be
beef into the motherfucking point where ship get to blaze,

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
But I think this is our first example where that
actually happened in the in the culture, right except Scotland Rock.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
But and it didn't happen since.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Yeah, you know, it's been going down.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
And they making records about these days they.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
Did it that. They're like, yo, I shot him here.

Speaker 4 (01:28:26):
I was just thinking you and I feel like before
that though, quick enunciation.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
I'm stunning a lot. I'm they got us looking crazy.
They got us looking smart, like, you know, like arguerations
like they out here on sixty ninth, like we wasn't
on the ground right here by the piece of shop.
And I went and got icy after that, and they
saying it and they and they did it on the ground, yeah,

(01:28:55):
and they did it. Yeah, but yeah, damn, I forgot
the question you asked. Let me ask you to do
the same question I asked you before, right now, but
this time it's a little twist. You get to hang
out with Biggie for a week, right, but you get
to God tells you, yo, you you get to say,

(01:29:19):
you know what he shouldn't do in order for him
to not meet his demise. So it's the same question,
but you get it, like to do something like to
make big not you know, running to very simple nigga,
we ain't going to stay.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
You ask in New York, the people love you ed
and you know they all they got your back, nigga
and all that old fuck new friends, right, no new
friends but that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
But let me ask.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
You, well, you did you feel that type of energy
for Big out in l A, Like, did you feel
that that that that love wasn't there, especially at that
time because it's right after pox and that nigga. He
love that nigga Big. When we was in the studio,
that nigga, we was outside and ship. You know what
I'm saying, Like nigga, nigga, we outside Nigga like they love.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
They stopping screaming for Big. Hey, what's that nigga?

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
He like?

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
He walking around here, don't give a fuck like now
to flinch now you know, cars go.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
He ain't looking that way. He's just whatever we're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
Like he was.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
Really he was poised. He was having fun. And that's
fucked up because I.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Heard sees even say that trip.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
He said anytime they went to Cali, he said, but
that trip in particular, they was having so to go
for that trip, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
That's what That's what I said, I would have said,
don't go. But I'm just saying though, but Niggas was
having a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Yeah, that's what he said. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
He said that all the time they went to Cali,
but he said, but this particular trip that this is
one of like like they was really really really having fun,
like you know what I mean, like because it wasn't
it wasn't the people of the city.

Speaker 4 (01:31:11):
It was it was something you know, it was more
like it wasn't East coast, West coast, it was people
that was Beefer, right.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
I know when we was in the studio, it was CEA's,
it was Niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
It was about fifteen both of members.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
It was about fifteen bad Boy members in the two
room studio, jam packed in that motherfucking we was. He
was having the time of his life, right, And I
had seen I seen in the night before they when
they left the hotel.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
But you know what I'm saying, Like Niggas was happy.
Oh she was dead.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
So I would just say I don't even go there, like, well,
let's figure this ship out for real first.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
That's deep though, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:31:55):
I remember he even has the record on the on
the album going back to Calty Record. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he knew he had love out there. Yeah, he loved
it out there.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
When you live that shit, you would ask some deep
bad shit. No, I mean, you know why I.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
Really never met pop Like I met Big like a
couple of times. One of the iller shit about Big
because I met him in One of the times I
met him was in a tunnel and.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
We had just did l a la. We wanted to
like go.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
Back, we wanted to represent for New York and the
East Coast and Big looked at me and he couldn't
have been like twenty two or something like that. He
looked at me, was like, nah, I'm not using that.
I was like what he was like, I'm not using that.
I'm like, I'm too big. And if I respond to
this guy, then they're gonna think that what he's.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
Accusing me of.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
I did. And like at the time, I was like Big,
it's crazy. But you know, now, as an older man,
I was like, yo, he was so wise. Back then
it was me was the idiot for time. Yeah yeah, yeah,
we're so okay. Okay, So Mariah Carey really kicked you out.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
It wasn't Mariah like cool me out.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
Y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
But she was doing her vocals.

Speaker 6 (01:33:07):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
It was Heathyn, It wasn't her.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
I was the call her.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
So she didn't kick me off. No, she ain't say y'all.
She didn't say y'all got to get the fuck out.
But it was like, you know, it's time for her
to do her vote.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
Okay, she went a privacy, you know, with all the
courtesy and all the respect in the world, y'all going
on over there, and.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
That's what she did her thing. But yeah, she was
private when she did that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
Okay, But hold on, okay, when you recorded with Big,
Big was there.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
Big was there when me Busy and Crazy recorded our verses.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
Big took the thang home.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
We didn't hear that. We didn't hear when.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
We did our ship. Big was like, oh man, he like.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
I'm telling you know, and he's trying to tell us
he gonna take that ship home and you know us
here later. So that's what happened. But we didn't hear
his verse until after he passed.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
Did you expect his verse to be that way? Not?
Not at all, Nigga, Is you crazy? There's just no.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
Example of somebody trying to like trying to pay promise
to y'all at that time. Most ultimate homony, harmony every
you know, the fucking life nigga, Like you didn't get
to see hear it with him in the same day
bro performing life together. That's crazy as you have performed it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
I got chilled what we did our ship all day.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
We was in the studio, like fourteen fifteen hours. I
passed out in the limo, woke up, did my ship?
Busy had did his crazy that he was like, but
it was late at fuck. This is smoking and drinking
and doing We having fun and ship sees little Kim.
Everybody was there in that month, everybody man. And then

(01:34:58):
next thing you know, he like, we're gonna come take
this home.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
Took that ship home and we never heard it until
it came out after he passed, and he was like
in dangerous banged up. Were like Craig like he did
he did it what I told him to do. I
don't know what they talked about. He said what I

(01:35:22):
told him to do. I said, all right, but who's
Who's Who's crag?

Speaker 6 (01:35:28):
I'm like, holy shit, Okay, what's in the studio with Park?

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
When when you recorded with Park?

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
Bus he was in the studio with Pop. Okay, he
had that pleasure. You can ask him that question.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
But you know what I'm saying, like Busy looks like
he was a studio with Park. They look like they
get along.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
Our homegirl Silky Frying from GBM.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
She was like the plug for that session right there.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
I always got to say that because she'd be like,
you know, I put that together.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
She did okay as he did.

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
They did their verse, and then I think Busy wanted
it for like a solo song with solo something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
But we was like, nigg you got us fucked up
this pot.

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
But yeah, we got to get at the.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
Yeah, hold up, man, Okay, established was in the studio
with Mariah Carey. Only time she used needed privacy for vocals.
We established that, right, good. But now Phil Collins flies
out to Sweden. Phil flow us out, Phil flow us
to Sweden.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
Man, well the black people that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
No, definitely wasn't no black people there.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
Yeah, but okay, yeah land in Sweden. Phil picks y'all up.
Rose voices a m hmm. Okay, So what what what happens?

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
I mean, we end up I don't know. He took
us to this one spot you know what I mean.
He was like he said it was his house, right,
I swear to guy. We pulled up to a castle, nigga,
I'm talking about a motherfucker like castle, biggest fucking Yeah,

(01:37:24):
that's a great scout.

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
So it took up.

Speaker 3 (01:37:27):
It took it took us about twenty minutes to get
down the driveway.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
So we gets out the car.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
Skip over that. That's a whole neighborhood to get down,
just the drivewayway.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
We pull up to the thing and it's another fence
you gotta get out in front of.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
So the nigga we get out. Field got some weed.
He got got what we weed?

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
Field like like, oh, this is nigga's wing, because I
imagine you'll didn't bring no wing with y'all. Weed didn't
When he gets locked up in Sweden, that was not Germany.
I'm sorry, it wasn't Germany. It was it wasn't Germany.

(01:38:15):
I promised he wasn't Germany. Well I forgot that to feel. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
I ain't mean to put you out there.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
You're Field good.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
So you get out of the car and Phil got.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
A platter like a bar not a plotter like he
come yeah, trist Yeah, waiting on.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
He just pulled that ship out of here. He ain't
say nothing. He didn't even tell us he had the wig.
He ain't saying.

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
He was about the light of this always does this
nigga starts smoking weed and we fainted and like we
took a fourteen hour flight over to this motherfucking nigga.
And that's when he became field Balm hell on y'all
smoking this bomb.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
Feel that made him a part of the hood.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
Wrote up the bomb them follow man.

Speaker 1 (01:39:12):
So all right, cool, Now I imagine the studio was
in the house.

Speaker 2 (01:39:17):
Yeah, somewhere in that castle. Okay, So y'all go in somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:39:23):
So y'all going, how does this record come about?

Speaker 3 (01:39:26):
So actually, uh Cray was playing with one of the
one of his samples and then we sampled, so he
sent it to him and he was like, well, if
they can.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Come out here, then I let him use it, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
So had some godfathership. We went out there. You know,
we wanted to shoot a video. So he was like,
but if y'all come to Sweden, then I give y'all
Because he gave us this speech about he never let
people really rappers apple Is music and things like this.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
You know, this is how you know things like this,
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
I'm like, okay, can we use the motherfucker went to
Sweden smoke weed with a great and she had in
the castle. Nigga, I ain't never seen no being in
no castle before Americans say they'd be having cribs and
ship like this.

Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
This ship was drew out the comic book with all
the etches in that. I was like, fuck this, nigga
got some money.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
This was like two thousand and five, two thousand and six.
That's when I wanted some pheield Collon money.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
Phil Collins money talking good that we want to castle.
I want to castle.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
I like castles the real estate. You know was off
the hook?

Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
That is that like the weirdest person that you know
that loves your music because your music is so universal.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
I imagine no Ah Man shit uh Dion Warwick. We
just talked about ship.

Speaker 1 (01:41:11):
She supposed to come in.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
Australia and I've seen her and I gave her a hug.
I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
You know, you see your people as you're taking pictures,
like I get pictures all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Wait were talking about again.

Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
So we was in Australia sing her right. No, I
forgot that her son Damon Elliott produced half of Flesh
and Bones out. So she's so much a Boone fan
it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
I remember she used to hate hip hop. So I
seen Smokey Robinson.

Speaker 3 (01:41:42):
Smokey Robinson, yeah, well I've seen him right, and he
was like, I'm like, damn, that might be Nigga. Looked
like Pops a little bit, and then he was like,
I know who you are. I know your music. I
approached Gladys Night the same way. She was like, I

(01:42:03):
know who you are. That's when should be kicking in,
Like damn, that's real great.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
But they know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
Sue, so that's that's like the oddest. But Phil Collins wasn't,
I though.

Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
He was just after you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
Named him Bone.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
He's just down fuck it and he's smoking blud in
the castle like that. It's Sweden. But he locked asat
Rocky up for the same ship, right, fucked up like
two joints or something like, no, no here a fight. So
he had a fight. I'm gonna look at.

Speaker 5 (01:42:37):
That and.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
Look at me.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
If you need what what country?

Speaker 4 (01:42:46):
Were you surprised though that you had a fan base
and that you went for the first time.

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
Everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
Man, It's just like being there to travel, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:42:58):
Like I ain't never really been to an Asian country,
but all over your Brazil, South America. Just it just
trips me out that niggas got out the hood and
made a name and I can go anywhere I.

Speaker 1 (01:43:14):
Want to go on Earth and and really, you know,
do b business and be respected and all that good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
Armed and dangerous. Ain't too many can bang with us.

Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
You see. Stevie j was up in that motherfucker, Little
c Steve, Littlebell, Crazy bonb my Nigga Cat Fleshing Bond,
Busy Bond, Pete Diddy was in the Motherfucker. I was
sitting right next to Big. That nigga stole my motherfucking
weed too.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
I ain't bullshit and I'm like nigga with my weed
that man, I thought you was playing Big.

Speaker 1 (01:43:59):
It's what about the Black Panther soundtrack the points.

Speaker 3 (01:44:05):
That was the very first time we interacted with everybody,
you know what I'm saying. We uh It was like
you do you put the verse down and then you
do the shoot your part to the video.

Speaker 2 (01:44:20):
So that Panther. Was that a dn D studio.

Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
I don't know where it was, man, but it was
like we when we did the song and then the
video was next, like so it was like that we
sing red.

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
Man and you know we were fresh.

Speaker 3 (01:44:36):
Now we're just now getting all so you looking at
niggas like nigga red Man in this bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
It was that whole little process was the ship. Oh
shout out today, Let's.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
Talk about Brothers for the Struggle back in the day,
right right, tell us what that was. So Brothers for
the Struggle, Pratt.

Speaker 3 (01:45:01):
Paycheck and pret these were some homies from Cleveland, Ohio
right that. Uh, they was the first nigga selling shit
out the trump setting, you know, selling their music and
independently doing their things. So when I shot our Brothers
for the Struggle, it's always too it's a group, a

(01:45:22):
duo group that had the.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
Block on on lock, you know what I mean. And
it was the first Cleveland examples that we had of.

Speaker 3 (01:45:33):
Get in the studio record your music, you know, going
through all the different processes.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
So yeah, that's Brothers for the Struggle, man.

Speaker 3 (01:45:41):
Them niggas was a cold group from Cleveland, Ohio in
like eighty eight eighty seven eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
Okay, now what's the association Elanda adams.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:45:56):
We did a song. We did a song where You Lina,
which to me is my favorite Boone song, favorite bone song,
my favorite bone song because it's my favorite type of music.

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
Is that inspiring.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
Inspirations, you know, ship that pick you up.

Speaker 3 (01:46:16):
But that's up there with my favorite ball song because
it's called Order My Steps.

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
So we had did a song with her on that Strength,
Strength and Loyal album that we did with Swizz Beats
and and it sco.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
Right because we were talking about that earlier. We we we.

Speaker 1 (01:46:38):
Was that full surface for a service, full surface.

Speaker 3 (01:46:42):
It was yep, it was us. Uh yeah, we were
just we was bang. We banged out with Swizz Beats
for about two years straight.

Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
So what what was that? That was Jimmy you guys
had business with Jimmy Ivian and the Swiss came in
or you you guys have to and Swiss took you
because we forgot that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
We was like, I completely, I was.

Speaker 1 (01:47:05):
Like so so through Steve Lobell we ended up plugging
with Swizz right. So Swizz at that time Bonne we
ain't had no deal none of that type of stuff.
So we long story short, we hooked up Steve took
me to Swizz Swizz. We ended up getting Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
That's when we did the three man album with myself,
Crazy Bone and Flat I mean myself, Crazy Bond and
wish I'm Sorry. So that was the Strength and Loyalty album.
And we did that album and that was Through and Swizz.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
We was with full surface but through in the scope
Jimmy iveen in there and that album ship that ship
platinum out the gate. Swizz Swizz recessitated that right without
and we had single with ACN that was like two

(01:48:05):
thousand and six.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
I tried.

Speaker 3 (01:48:07):
We had put out a movie that year that went platinum.
But you know, you set one hundred thousand DVDs or something.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
On the independent? What what? What do you?

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
What? Do you?

Speaker 2 (01:48:21):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
Do you? What do you? And you have you have
the pleasure of having both.

Speaker 7 (01:48:27):
What do you like better being on a major or
being independent? Hands down independent? You know what I mean like?

Speaker 3 (01:48:39):
Because so the pros of being on a major is
you can have everybody do everything for you and it's
and it's easy like that. So that's the pro yes,
everything else is the kind against that ship you know
what I mean. I would rather be independent and do

(01:49:01):
everything myself and take my time to do it and
build it and grow it. Like that's how I do
projects now I think of it. Boom, now I'm recording now, marketing,
and I'm promoting it. You know, it's just like all
these different things. Independently you get to do you know
what I mean, it and it becomes your own for real,

(01:49:22):
and you know you can't let nobody. Nobody would do
for you the way you would do for you, So
you got to maintain some level of independence.

Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
Control plus the ownership control. Ownership is control.

Speaker 3 (01:49:39):
You want to own all your shit if you if
you can now you know, little piece here, little piece there,
if it's worth it, you know, and always talk to
somebody about if it's worth it or not, and keep
your options open.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
Who he was talking about keeping the options open?

Speaker 1 (01:49:54):
So yeah, yeah, independent man, Okay, we.

Speaker 2 (01:49:59):
Were okay earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:50:02):
I believe you said thirty years right, And we have
a lot of artists that come on here and their
rights get reverted back. I believe twenty five or thirty
thirty years. Is that something that you guys are into
getting your rights reverted back? Because I believe that happens
for all artists if it's those like twenty five thirty
years right.

Speaker 3 (01:50:22):
Yeah, well we fully engaged right now. You know it's
a process. After thirty years, you have to you have
to have so many documents foul, so many things you
have to do to prepare to get your shit back.
If you missed the windows, had not prepared before time,
then they could still give you bullshit. Wow, that's how

(01:50:45):
they slave ship with nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
But we fully.

Speaker 3 (01:50:49):
Engaged and making sure like it's a process. I share
that process with anybody out there.

Speaker 2 (01:50:55):
You know what I'm saying. You got asks chat GPT.

Speaker 1 (01:50:58):
You don't need me, right, you know what I'm saying,
TV know the answer, mother fucking g Yet.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
That monthfucking know yeah that monthfucking no, get out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:51:13):
Listen to me with g I funk with everything that's
fun with It's.

Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
Like no goddamn thing good. I could read, it could read,
we could read.

Speaker 1 (01:51:27):
And you got roll by bitches too, nigga that you
don't even need the boy you better tap in? Was
it ready for that different? That's a different, that's that's central. Yeah,
let's be funny. One second, I'm just talking let's seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
You think you thinking road bos will play strippers.

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
They did that. They bended that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
You know, they got got the mouth robots to put
to you.

Speaker 1 (01:51:57):
They got all that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:58):
What do you do?

Speaker 1 (01:51:59):
What the hell? You wait? What you know? Because did
you They got robot.

Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
Mount robots.

Speaker 1 (01:52:08):
I've never heard this.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
I'm with me, man, they got mounthro box.

Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
Get over here.

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
I've been told a lot about Man, you got all
kind of robots. You know, you just got to learn
how to operate them. They can't operate you oka you
got to operate them. Oh control black man, we wanes.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
So all right, as a person, you know, comfort tapes,
it's streaming a plus or its streaming a minus. I
know you said you you're telling them director to a consumer,
but it's it's streaming something that you look at as
a plus, because you know, I remember back back then,
if I wanted my record to get to London, I

(01:52:55):
had to bring my record to London. So like, what
do you think it streaming something that you you sit
back and say, I'm with that or fuck that. It's
never fucked that. I think it's a plus. I think
it's an addition, you know what I mean? Like I think.

Speaker 3 (01:53:17):
It's it's it's senseless if you don't go direct to
your consumer. You know, you got to offer them all
kind of bundles and benefits and things that you know,
you sell your own profit.

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
But it's still a benefit to have to be able
to reach out to everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:53:35):
Loyal fan base always gone, you know, tap in and
you know, merchandise and things or you know, and you
and you stated your state growing new fans just by
having your music out there, you know what I mean.
But I would say follow this blueprint I do. I
do all the physical ship first, then our release to

(01:53:59):
you know. I think they work hand in hand, but
just not simultaneously because you want to benefit off them.
There's your investment that you put out there, because you know,
we invest our time, we invest our money, We invest
a lot of resources to still make music, you know,
I mean time being the most one, especially if you

(01:54:19):
really do it. But in any entertainment and depthorabook, all
you gotta do is just I think they both work
hand in hand, but I think one at a time.

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
If you could take it back anything this game that
you did that you regret, what would it be probably
negotiating solo albums and shit. Should have probably waited a
few years before you did a solo album.

Speaker 2 (01:54:55):
Before I negotiated solo records for everyone. Yeah, okay, wow,
Why would have kept the group together a little longer?

Speaker 1 (01:55:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
I think because it's the fight. Well, I don't regret.
I just think the Wu Tang method.

Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
You think because we was album album group, album solo
solo group, solo solo groups. So we didn't get to
stick to that because the fangs said, you know what
I mean, the shit got big before we knew it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
So but that's that's that's the only thing. It's no regret.
But if I could have did something different out of waited, How.

Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
About you personally?

Speaker 1 (01:55:40):
Did you enjoy doing music solo versus the group or
vice versa.

Speaker 3 (01:55:46):
Group orientated you know what I mean? Like, I'm I
love my niggas. We we did everything together since the
young kids, you know what I mean. But I love
being solo too, and I don't have to assotiate, and
you know what I mean, Like I like being an
artist period, but I like making ship work business wise

(01:56:09):
all together in harmony type as me.

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
Now, obviously you saw a straight of confident the movie.
Obviously when you watch that, you had to say, Man,
we need this bone fucking movie. Well, of course you
know we're talking about it. Okay, that perfect world? Who's

(01:56:35):
the director of the bone moving?

Speaker 2 (01:56:40):
Well, I really hadn't even thought it, thought it through, Like, okay,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
Like, I don't want I don't want to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
Is there a perfect world? Who's playing you? You ain't
never look at it on the TV. I'm like, man,
that Nigga can play me. I see a couple of faces,
but I don't know them. Nigga's name, you know, I
don't know. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:57:08):
I ain't get into the row sa my mind think
more of.

Speaker 1 (01:57:12):
On being the side of it, you know what I mean.
Here's why I say that, Right. We have so many
dope stories of hip hop, right, and but some of
the best ones are for the people that are still alive.

Speaker 7 (01:57:25):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:57:26):
So Fox's not here to say to critique his own
movie and be like I didn't like this part, right,
Bigg's not here to say that. But the reason why
I broke up straight out of Compton is like, out
of how many people, out of five of them, four
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:57:41):
Are still here, right, Everybody except Easy except easy.

Speaker 1 (01:57:46):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So like so most
people look at that and be like, this is the
best one because the people that are still here are
a part of.

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
This actual movie. You know what I mean? This is
the reason.

Speaker 1 (01:57:56):
You've never thought like that I have.

Speaker 2 (01:58:01):
Can't nobody play me like me though? You know what
I'm saying, You can't play you like well like that
your son maybe my son you know what, Oh, my
son like you like my sons, my sons.

Speaker 1 (01:58:17):
Daccatti House actually got a part in the Michael Jackson movie.

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
I think he played, but your son got a role
of Michael Jackson. Do have a mini met was fourteen to.

Speaker 1 (01:58:31):
Have a long? Yeah? I think that was that was
genius with ice Cube to Death had a son player.
I have to mention that. And then in the Michael
is Jermaine's son, Michael's nephew playing him.

Speaker 3 (01:58:43):
Yeah wait, Michael's nephew is playing Michael is playing Mike son.
O my son playing young Jermaine in the actual movie
is supposed to being the part too.

Speaker 2 (01:58:56):
You know they cut it at eighty eight whatever, But
my he did his acting thing and that world. So
I would love for my kids to play me you
know that's fire. That's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:59:08):
Yeah, my sons they all doing something, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:59:11):
Okay, so now let me ask you.

Speaker 1 (01:59:13):
Now the movie we we we we We didn't establish
the director because you ain't say, but you got your
son playing the movie. Now the studio comes to you
and say, what, we can save a lot of money
filming this. AI are you saying no, no, no, no,
come on, we got to go back to Cleveland to
film this or you're saying take the pick cut. Ain't

(01:59:42):
doing like we gotta go back to Cleveland, all RIGHTA
me like that, nigga, like.

Speaker 2 (01:59:57):
All benches off. Yeah, you know, you know that was
That was the dopest thing about.

Speaker 1 (02:00:03):
Eight miles was this is real talk. I had been
going through the trade for years and I had never
there was not eight miles over there like I was.

Speaker 2 (02:00:14):
I was staying on this miles. So like when I
seen that, I was like, holy shit, there's a whole
other side, you know what I mean, Like there's.

Speaker 1 (02:00:21):
Places that with people, and like I feel like the
story of Cleveland hasn't been told, you know what I'm saying.
I feel like and like, like I said, like you
you guys are like a franchise, Like it's like, you know,
Cavaliers ball, motherfucking you know what I'm saying, Like like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(02:00:44):
you know what.

Speaker 2 (02:00:48):
Y'all heard what he said.

Speaker 3 (02:00:49):
He feels like it's a franchise, it's a hog man.
But yeah, we're gonna we definitely gonna tell our story
to the way we want it told. It ain't no rush,
it ain't no you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:01:03):
Like, we all five live.

Speaker 3 (02:01:05):
But you know what I mean, we all do talk,
We all do share, still share different aspirations with each other,
you know what I'm saying. So this ship it's fun
for us, Like we just we just uh find to
see who's gonna be in shape on this motherfucking tour.

Speaker 1 (02:01:23):
Okay, And what's the tour again? August August into August.

Speaker 2 (02:01:28):
This is the Wu Tang.

Speaker 3 (02:01:30):
Yeah, so it's Bomb Wou Tang Bomb. So it's Wu Tang.
They promoted as their their final tour.

Speaker 2 (02:01:39):
Right, Oh, this is that? Are you guys gonna be
in the West Palm, Yeah, yep, And that's the one
I want to go to.

Speaker 1 (02:01:45):
We opening up for Wu Tang on their on their
final Tour's.

Speaker 2 (02:01:52):
Gonna go back they're gonna.

Speaker 1 (02:02:01):
Did you have the last one?

Speaker 2 (02:02:03):
You know, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
We was in Paris and I got to see them
and NAS performed, But I didn't you ever see that show?

Speaker 2 (02:02:14):
M hm, who's taking naves? Well?

Speaker 1 (02:02:16):
They did it like a play. They did it like
a mixtare. I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (02:02:20):
So, Like I was sitting there, see what it was like? Man,
you know, come on stage. I was like, nah, bro, like.

Speaker 1 (02:02:26):
I'm here, Like I'm in Paris. I happened to be
in Paris, that happened to be there. I'm here as
a fan. I sat there and I watched it and
they went so on, for so and for so and
so and song. I had never seen no ship like that.
And it's like your hip hop is still alive, bro, Like,
I can't wait to go out there and see y'all.

Speaker 3 (02:02:42):
So when is the tour starts into August? Okay, and
it's twenty seven dates, and it's gonna last all us
Yeah us you are all us City's uh And it's
from like the end of August to damn near the
end of I tall twenty seven dates.

Speaker 2 (02:03:00):
Maybe we do a drink cancer backstage. We definitely go
there that's definitely. So we get upbout there. Is anything
you want to say to the offence.

Speaker 3 (02:03:11):
I'm doing a director consumer album. I need everybody to
follow me at lazybone dot com.

Speaker 2 (02:03:20):
It's called Dash. You just played there, Yeah, so dash
the life we live in.

Speaker 3 (02:03:27):
Just just check me out, man, follow me on my
instagrams and ship like that, the real lazy bonb.

Speaker 2 (02:03:33):
I just came to hang out with you. Man.

Speaker 3 (02:03:34):
Wanted to let people know that this direct to consumer thing,
there's a real thing if you really want to support
your artists, if it's hooked up, right, I got man,
Look all you gotta do is holler at me, and
I'm gonna give you what you need as far as
bomb does in harmony information.

Speaker 1 (02:03:52):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:03:54):
So okay, let's let's before you get up out there.

Speaker 1 (02:03:56):
I want to put them a little bit more light
on the director consumer thing because we want these people
to be able to.

Speaker 2 (02:04:04):
Go straight to you. Right, and this is now now
is this is music or this is merch as well?
This is everything. Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:04:12):
I'm I just so happened to be releasing some new
music because you know, just to get the thing going.
But it's direct, its direct to our consumer. Just follow
me on lazybone dot com, harmony house.

Speaker 2 (02:04:28):
Dot net, and I let I let everything do to explaining,
you know as far as yeah, and like you said,
this is the test for the whole boom Thug and
Harmony doing the same thing. Right. What's the name of
that chip?

Speaker 1 (02:04:42):
Damn?

Speaker 2 (02:04:43):
I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (02:04:46):
Yeah, So now that's so on the NFC chip you
could put your album over there and a website called Tango, right,
So what you do is it's a key chain.

Speaker 3 (02:04:57):
I wish I had one to show you right now,
but I'll give it to you. But Tango is a
website and it's an n f C chip.

Speaker 1 (02:05:08):
Boom.

Speaker 2 (02:05:09):
That's the way you're.

Speaker 3 (02:05:10):
Sharing your music these days without putting it on the
DSP and you able to collect your your price on
how you set the album. How we used to do
CDs and ship. That whole vibe is back, man, you
know what I mean. But it's different packages you can do.
It's so many things you can put on this on

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this df C chip.

Speaker 2 (02:05:32):
What kind of tip NFC on.

Speaker 1 (02:05:40):
I ain't gonna put it out on some but you're
probably saying this ship, so I'm putting my.

Speaker 2 (02:05:50):
Ship out like this right, that's your album.

Speaker 3 (02:05:53):
Tap it on your phone, almost gonna take you to
a website called my phone old.

Speaker 2 (02:06:00):
School okay website website NFC.

Speaker 1 (02:06:06):
Oh ship and.

Speaker 3 (02:06:08):
Then you know, you can skip it down. You don't
have to download. You can go straight to your phone.

Speaker 2 (02:06:14):
Oh tangle, yeo, tango Wow me like a d n
They ain't got me on a new do y'all come on,
aud Okay, so this.

Speaker 3 (02:06:29):
Is a tangle, so boom. Now you got the website.
All you do is tap it, tap it in that way.
You know, you sell, so I'm can.

Speaker 1 (02:06:35):
Put a graphic.

Speaker 2 (02:06:37):
You can sell whatever the you want on this. Wow,
you can sell anything. But ain't nobody want to tell.

Speaker 1 (02:06:45):
That, you know?

Speaker 2 (02:06:48):
Okay, and so that's what So you.

Speaker 3 (02:06:52):
In the club like that, right boom and because so
you can keep that, okay, nobody else Now nobody can
ain't duplicated nothing like that, because that's that's why you
sign it to the tango application.

Speaker 2 (02:07:07):
You know what I'm saying, And so that's how I'm
moving my ships strong. So that's one one, one of one.
So that makes it like yeah like.

Speaker 3 (02:07:15):
Me, so you know, and then I can you can
add information onto it like okay, you're a fan of us.
So you're gonna be in what city? Okay, Well, we
got discounts at these hotels we got you know, it's
a whole guide to your world without having to go
to your website all the time or or give it

(02:07:36):
to the DSP Spotify what they're giving you zero zero
point zero zero zero three, right, But then you put
it on there after you finish your pre sale.

Speaker 2 (02:07:49):
So my pre sales folk me up right here while
we're getting fucked up.

Speaker 1 (02:07:54):
And then when does this album drop?

Speaker 2 (02:07:58):
I'm probably gonna do it around see when you're independent,
do you want?

Speaker 1 (02:08:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:08:06):
Yeah, so I'm thinking about right around July, Girly, July
July third, it's the date that I'm I'm just don't
do a thirty day blitz, make about thirty thousand pieces, get.

Speaker 2 (02:08:18):
Them off to my fans, you know what I mean. So,
I mean, after thirty days, you could take it off.

Speaker 1 (02:08:25):
I could. I don't have to print no more. Then
I could put it up on DSPs. I'd have made
five million dollars. A nigga, Damn, I shouldn't have said
that out.

Speaker 2 (02:08:37):
Don't cut that, hear me.

Speaker 1 (02:08:39):
That's good, that's real.

Speaker 2 (02:08:42):
No, I was just having fun right, So because I
got to show you my thing. No, that's hard to
the album hard too, So you do a review let
me know.

Speaker 1 (02:08:52):
Yeah, I got you.

Speaker 2 (02:08:53):
And then just for the people, that is there any
features on here?

Speaker 1 (02:08:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:08:57):
If I got the thug pound, which is me flesh
excuse me.

Speaker 3 (02:09:06):
Me, flesh corrupt edie, I mean resting peace to young
noble this and there we had like fifteen goddamn songs
with all of us and he go to.

Speaker 2 (02:09:18):
Resting piece to his family.

Speaker 1 (02:09:20):
You know what I mean, This just happened, you know,
I like thee.

Speaker 2 (02:09:27):
What else I got on it? I just got my
brothers and my family on that. We got the whole
bone on it. Good ship. I think it's good music.

Speaker 1 (02:09:38):
I got the whole bone on that. That's what well.

Speaker 3 (02:09:41):
I got a whole bone album coming too, So on
your ship, on my ship, I got bone, different bones
on different songs.

Speaker 1 (02:09:52):
I got different bones.

Speaker 3 (02:09:55):
I got the whole goddamn click, and I got bone
coming in the movie coming and all this and all
and we're getting.

Speaker 2 (02:10:02):
Back to our consumers.

Speaker 1 (02:10:04):
Man. Okay, because we talked about the director consumer right off. Okay,
bad bad, But we talked about the director consumer. We
talked about the Independent Route or whatever. But a couple
of years ago Rizza. So the album that he's kind
of like dark, He's kind of sort of like as
an art piece, right, Like, is that something that that

(02:10:28):
you'll be interested in, like, like, you know, selling the
album of just y'all that's never been heard before and
it won't ever be heard, but it would sell us
an art people unless the buyer because the buyer at least,
but it hasn't been because apparently I've never heard these
change records, these records never came out.

Speaker 3 (02:10:46):
I will never give nobody anything exclusive like that. Okay,
fuck no, Well we won't is to own and you
can give us a bunch of money.

Speaker 1 (02:10:57):
We might license that month up out, but but not exactly,
not to for the not for perpetuate, just what's forever?

Speaker 2 (02:11:11):
Yeah, yeah, we ain't giving you that ship like that.

Speaker 1 (02:11:16):
Yeah no, but I will give them that.

Speaker 2 (02:11:21):
I haven't those records haven't leaked, right, But not everybody
was happy with the way that that project came out.

Speaker 1 (02:11:27):
What do you mean I.

Speaker 2 (02:11:27):
Didn't How do they know that they know? They didn't
know that they was gonna be used for that?

Speaker 1 (02:11:31):
Oh I think you said how the project came out
make me the sound wise and no one has.

Speaker 4 (02:11:35):
Heard that ship, ye know, the artist, the artists themselves,
not everybody was completely happy about that.

Speaker 1 (02:11:40):
Yeah, okay, okay, so art comes down. There's lazy got
one record, and there's one record could change humanity. You
could get any producer h at any feature. Mm hmmm,

(02:12:06):
where are you going with m hmm?

Speaker 3 (02:12:15):
I think I might want a kind to produce that motherfucker.
They called the producer a kind to produce the motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 (02:12:23):
He gonna be that.

Speaker 1 (02:12:24):
You know where you're going. You're going somewhere, You're going somewhere.
Ever this motherfucker go.

Speaker 2 (02:12:33):
Man, you should have said a choice of a song
or a temple or song, but it's your temple, whatever
temple you want.

Speaker 3 (02:12:46):
All right, it's gonna be produced by a kin. We're
gonna be the rappers feature. Married Jay gonna be the
motherfucking hook.

Speaker 2 (02:12:58):
And we said, what are you talking about? Okay, and
you said, who's gonna be on the hook? Mary J.
Blair K Block.

Speaker 1 (02:13:04):
I can hear this record already. I can hear this record.
I can hear this record. I can hear it's already.
I seen her in concert the other day with my girl,
and I was just like, who mary Ja? Okay, she

(02:13:25):
did that? Play the game?

Speaker 2 (02:13:28):
Okay, now the same one legend, we need a song.

Speaker 1 (02:13:30):
With Mary j.

Speaker 2 (02:13:32):
That's okay, not the same question.

Speaker 1 (02:13:36):
But this time you get to bring back a producer
that's passed away, and you get to being back a
feature that's passed away. Anybody a feature, a feature that's
passed away, and the producer that's passed away.

Speaker 3 (02:13:58):
God damn well I would probably. I don't know why
I feel Marvin gay right.

Speaker 1 (02:14:08):
Wo? Then what's going on?

Speaker 2 (02:14:11):
And producer that is the producer? Guy? Is they dead already?
THEYD they both dead? He's bored with this ship right now?
I mean Marvin Gay.

Speaker 1 (02:14:24):
Marvin Gaye is the singer right correct, He's not he's
not producing. Yeah, he's a singer, okay, and the producer
is a producer too. But as a producer, I need
Marvin Gay for the singer, the artist, and then for
the producer, I need Luther Vandross.

Speaker 2 (02:14:48):
No one knows, crazy boy, I swore.

Speaker 1 (02:14:55):
But you know Luther Vandross produced all his ship. Yeah,
yeah that it was dope. You know, I gotta go.

Speaker 2 (02:15:03):
We might have to go some rerecords together. On that,
who do you think is more famous? And in Cleveland
the Averts or the Bombs more famous? The verse is

(02:15:26):
who you got j Gerald the whole family, man family to.

Speaker 1 (02:15:34):
More people depends.

Speaker 2 (02:15:36):
It depends on which generation you're talking.

Speaker 1 (02:15:39):
It's a generational.

Speaker 2 (02:15:40):
It's a generation.

Speaker 3 (02:15:42):
But for the last of the Mohicans that's hold known
the old folks. We're gonna say the verts.

Speaker 1 (02:15:50):
The divers.

Speaker 2 (02:15:55):
Hanging on nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:15:58):
Man, ladies, man o bone is yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, man,
y'all staple man listen. Man. Like I said, Man, our
shows about giving people their flowers. Man, we wanted to
give your flowers forever. Man, you know me, your your group,
everything you've done for the hip hop game.

Speaker 2 (02:16:15):
Man, you know what I mean. I tipped my hat
off to you. I tip my hat.

Speaker 1 (02:16:19):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:16:20):
I want you to continue to do this. I want
you to continue to you know, monkey for this game
and keep your fucking neck on them. This independent ship is.

Speaker 1 (02:16:29):
Very, very important because we have to support this, We
have to promote this, We have to make sure this
works because this is we have.

Speaker 2 (02:16:37):
Our music is a way out, but the way out
should be through us as well.

Speaker 1 (02:16:43):
You know what I mean We've got so many people
changing other people lives that work in these corporate companies
that don't know what the fuck they're doing, and it's
actually setting up, you know what I mean, where you
got these people like us who want to share the game.
We also want to stay in our fucking lane and
be like, you know what I mean, Like, if you
want the game, I'm gonna give it to you, you
know what I'm saying. So so I salute you, man,
I commend you, man, and we want to support everything

(02:17:04):
you do.

Speaker 2 (02:17:04):
This is your house. Whatever you want to talk about.

Speaker 1 (02:17:06):
If you want to talk about pink toenails and motherfucker elephants,
we don't care. You just come up here. This is
your house.

Speaker 2 (02:17:13):
I just wanted to say shout out to my son.

Speaker 1 (02:17:15):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:17:15):
You know, he locked up in the fast right now.

Speaker 1 (02:17:17):
I made a mistake on Earth, you know what I'm saying,
and they made him pay the price for it, but
he locked up.

Speaker 3 (02:17:24):
I just wanted to say shout out. You never know
what people going through. You know what I'm saying, Keep
your head up, son, We're doing this. We don't drink
drink champs with the one and onlies around here. We
got Ian nor up in this mug man.

Speaker 2 (02:17:37):
You know y'all be good in there. Yeah, don't be
acting up when a nigga visited and shit, you know,
motherfucker drink You.

Speaker 1 (02:17:53):
Take a picture of a.

Speaker 2 (02:17:54):
Couple of drops and'll be good.

Speaker 4 (02:17:55):
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