Episode 503 w/ Lizzo

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
He's a legendary Queens rapper. He ain't agreed as your
boy in O R E. He's a Miami Hill pop pioneer.
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
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it should be? It's your boy and A O N
A A.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
What up?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
It's d J E f N. I fucked up that
ship up?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, But for Grammys in the building, Platinum
at the Platinum unrelentlessly in your face, mud footing, kicking
y'all down, making sure.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
She is one of the hottest artists.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
In the world, and we are going to give her
flowers tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Motherfucker, you forgot the Emmy and the Diamond. I was
going there. I was gonna get in the interview, but
like I'm not gonna lie to you, I.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Kept going through your distograpy, We kept going through you know,
your music and kept and just you're like, you're a
person that I feel like I have to be put
on a pedestal because uh of your confidence and what
you display and what you represent. I really admire, Like

(01:56):
you know what I'm saying. So we wanted to give
your flowers.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Many That's right. That's the part of being.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
A big artist is you have to stand on a
big stage.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
You was recently a part of Kevin Harts roast, which is.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
I believe for the most part is receiving most.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Of positive but obviously they have that one little negative,
that one negative part.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Did you feel? What did you feel when you got
called for the roast? Oh?

Speaker 4 (02:40):
I was excited. I said, let's go finally.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
I feel like people don't know how much I don't
take myself seriously and how much I can laugh at
myself and how much I could.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Say you have a sense of humor. Yeah, I don't
think people understand my sense of humor.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
And I thought it was the perfect opportunity to show
the world and showcase the world my sense of humor
in the fact that I can just laugh at anything.
It was it was fun. Yeah, a lot of time.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
You know, some people, what's what's the white comic?

Speaker 2 (03:11):
What's his name? Tonycliff? Well, Shane didn't.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I don't think Shane went fall, but Tony Heathcliff, he's Cliff.
What did you feel when you when you heard it?

Speaker 5 (03:22):
That was my first time ever hearing of him, of
his existence.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, because he disported weko So I don't like him.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
I went in very like, knowing nothing about this individual,
and I laughed at the things that were funny, and
I did not laugh at the things that weren't funny.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I respect that. Yeah, I respect that.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
So let's let's let's let's let's bounce around the record
bitch Yeah, the album bitch as well?

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, okay, period is this coming out? Joe FIV? What's
this coming out? You want to come out here?

Speaker 4 (04:01):
So listen the rollout is crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Ah, So let me ask because that's a bold statement, right,
I didn't think it was that bold.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
I'm not gonna lie like bitch wow in twenty twenty six, Okay,
it's such a commonly used word. They don't have the
same thing, like if this was nineteen eighty six, maybe
even nineteen ninety six, when Meredith Brooks dropped her version
of bitch, or when Missy was talking about It's the
Bitch era.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Missus a big influence, She's a bitch.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
Yeah, I felt like in twenty twenty six it was
not gonna be that big of a deal. Turns out
I was fucking wrong. Like the label was like, you
can't name your album this, and I can't name my
tour it. They were like, you're gonna lose partners, We're
gonna lose our deals. Like I was like, I didn't
realize there'd be this controversial this.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Anyway.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
Yeah, we censored myself since everybody's trying to censor me.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
All right, this is this is.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Something for me, right because when I came out, I
used to rap as well.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I had an.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Album called Niggas on the Run, Yeah, and they did
not like, yeah, they made.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Me change it to now We on the Run.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Do you think that that's does Does bitch hold the same.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Weight as nigga? Oh you don't, You don't. You don't
think so.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
I'm asking because I'm naivete.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Okay, yeah, okay, Like the nigga is is violent, it
was used to violent experience us. You know, systemically, bitch
is derogatory. But I think there's a there's a difference
also to all racist yeah yeah, and specifically to women.

(05:46):
It was a derogatory term used. I say that the
similarity between bitch and nigga is the reclamation of it.
I think the way Black people have reclaimed nigga and
like we could say it, but like just the way
women we reclaim bitch. But if a man called me
a bitch, is a problem my girlfriend like bitch, girl,

(06:07):
Oh bitch. But if a man goes bitch, I'll be
like bitch.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Unless gay, unless he's gay, because gay guys get away
with it.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I've seen it.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
It depends on the tone and the relationship.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Okay, okay, the relationship with with with the game.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
Yeah with me, you call me that, just because all we.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Gotta know what the person absolutely.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
It's called nuance, which I think everybody lacks these days.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
We lack nuance. But it's nuanced. You know what I'm saying.
I do pick and choose.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Okay, I respect that. I respect that. So let's take
it from the beginning. How how did this start? And
how did you develop?

Speaker 2 (06:55):
You know? This?

Speaker 1 (06:56):
This this this, there's there's love for the art, like
how did how did you you you start with.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
This the art of music or hip hop or which
one all of it.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
I grew up in a music family.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Yeah, I grew up in a music I grew up
in the Church of Goden Christ He's Great Michigan. So
my whole family was the band, the choir, the congregation,
the elders, the pastor, like cousins, great grandmothers like you know.
So I grew up watching extremely talented musicians. My cousins
are prolific drummers, organists, bass players, singers.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
But I didn't have that talent.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
I didn't think as a kid, I was watching them
like wow, that's so incredible.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
So I was surrounded by music.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
When I moved down to Houston, I started learning about
freestyle rap, and like I thought, Little Flip was just like.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
The freestyle came.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
Like you was going ninety seven nine of the box
and he would freestyle. And God so in where I
grew up in the Southwest, a least Texas and the
swat like during lunch you gotta so everybody okay.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
So you bang on the desk and you freestyle.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
So I kind of built that muscle and I was like, oh,
I don't have to be a singer. I could rap,
and then of course I learned flu so came after
all that. No flute was simultaneous like I thought flu.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Flu came first. Flu was when I was twelve.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
I was free eleven twelve, I was freestyle about this
time I was thirteen.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
But you're trying to like you a right actual correctly.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
We had a song called it don't matter.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Because because most people were like, I mean, that's not
like our thing is, like, hey, I want I wanted
to go to do the fruit.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, how the hell you're from New York? Yeah for me, yeah,
I can't Miami.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
Yeah. Okay, but y'all don't got no football? Do you
have football teams?

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah? Dolphin?

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Okay, what's that?

Speaker 5 (09:11):
We just had.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
You talking about the marching.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Band because marching band.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
Okay, so marching bands is a big business in Texas,
so you or the football teams are big business.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
So you need a marching band.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
So marching band's got a lot of budget because they
needed a really good marching band for their football teams.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
College, high school. So I was, I was.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
You were encouraged to play an instrument in Texas?

Speaker 6 (09:34):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (09:35):
Yeah, so you could be in the marching band pipeline,
so you could be in the football pipeline. So yeah,
I went from flute to piccolo. I was playing piccolo
in the marching bands and we were going to state competitions, so.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
I didn't have that stigma like band camp, like the
like the nerds were in the bank band.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
Got The worst thing ever was to be a kid
in marching band with when one time at bankimp my
pussy but anyway, but no, of course I got the

(10:20):
band nerd like you know thing like band nerd but whatever.
In fifth grade, the band was the coolest thing you
could be in.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
We were playing like records off the radio. We were
playing be Smalls and Little Kim and we was like
leaning back and forth and like doing choreography. We were
on the morning news rapping and playing our instruments like.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
It's Houston, Texas. You know what I'm saying, Like everything's
gonna be a little trio.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yes, especial noise for using testing.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
So when did that go from you know, playing the
flute to like saying, you know what, I'm going to
develop rapping and at the time without I believe ghetto boys,
But there wasn't a lot of bands there was a
lot of people from Houston.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Right, No, but no, she's talking about little Flip.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
I was from the Mike Joes.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Okay number. Literally we called one three three zero zero phone.
You still remember the number? Yes, Oh my god, oh
my god. That was just you just do it out there, like.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
But he he popped out at the Houston rodeo with
me this year. Wow, and we did steal tippings? Is
he still got that number? He was and the number
first off? First off, before we booked him for it. Uh,
somebody was like, yeah, hit up, you got to hit
up Mike Jones, like and I was like, yeah, what's

(11:52):
this contact? My management sent me. They're like, here's his
number to one three three a's I said, bitch, y'all
don't even know, like that was his ship but.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
They sent it to me like it was just like
a regular contact.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
But that number apparently he still has. It's just a
hotline that blows up on his phone.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
He has another real number, but he didn't.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Give it to me.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
But it's fine.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
He is one of the best independent promotions in the history.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Of music period.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Like Jones is not going who is just and then
you can just call his number like I believe all
record labels his.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
His his promotional. But let's let's take it from there.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
So you're hearing this and then because at one point
you got to say to yourself, this is what I
want to do, and this is what I'm going to
lock in on. When was that moment when you was like, yo,
you know what.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
I was in the fifth grade. I was in like literature.
It was like the last period of the day and
my name was called over the speakers. It was like,
Melissa Jefferson, can you come to the principal's office.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
I was like, oh my God. Looked at me like
I was in trouble.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
I go to the principal's office and my sister's there
and she's like, hey, we need to leave.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
And I was like what happened?

Speaker 5 (13:11):
And she took me out of school and she was like,
We're about to go see Destney's Child.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
And I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
So she took me to the walmart on Dunbville and
West Timer and Destiny's Child they had a stage built
outside and they performed for a huge crowd and I
watched them sing and they did and they signed CDs
and they did the gospel Medley, you know the Jesus
loves me that And I remember I got full body

(13:39):
chills and I was like, this is what I want
to do.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
I want to Yeah, it was.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
Just watching the effect that these girls had, they were
young girls at the time too, had on all of
us in the crowd, and we were all just quiet
and paying attention. And I felt I had a full
body reaction to their vocals and I was so inspired
and it's so moved and I was like, one day
I want to make people feel this way at the show,
like and that was kind of fifth grade is when

(14:05):
I locked in. Yeah, I locked in.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
I also heard that that one year your man kept
putting up the vanity fear of you. Yeah, and he
kept showing he wanted you to remind yourself or who
you are.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, how did that? How did that happen? Well?

Speaker 5 (14:29):
I kind of have like I'm not gonna say I
have imposter syndrome, but I feel like the world has
always been kind of trying to like invalidate me and
kind of like tear me down a little bit. So
in my brain, I never feel like I'm as good
or you know what I'm saying, as successful as I
actually am. And in my last house, I just moved

(14:50):
into a brand new house, Marriyan. But in my last house,
I didn't have any of my plaques. They were all
in storage. I didn't have none of my magazine covers nowhere.
My trophies and the wards were all the way downstairs somewhere.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
I never went on a bookshelf.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
And yeah, and I was there for three years and
I never saw any of my accomplishments or any of
my achievements, and I would I and I talked so
bad about my career sometimes, like I'll be like, man, I.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Just feel so underrated. I feel so slept on.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
Man, I just feel like I'm not doing enough, and
nobody gives a fucking And my man was like, Yo,
where are your plaques?

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Like you need to put you need to remind.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
Yourself of your accomplishments and the successes that you've done,
because you need to change the way that you feel
about yourself.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Because it's not true.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
And one day he was at the store and he
saw the store. Yeah, it was like a Ventis store,
and he saw a magazine there and he was like,
I got something for you. And he came over and
it was a framed uh magazine with me on the cover.
It was Vanity Fair and it's my favorite cover of
all time.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Style.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
It was the first time I met Patty Wilson and
she stopped me.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
I look so cool.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
I feel like Rihanna.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
But anyway, and he was like, he put it right
in front of my bed. So when I wake up,
I see that, and he's like, remember who you are?
And now in my new house, maybe I got plaques.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
All my plaques a shy.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
Girl max, So I got my plaques everywhere. My trophies
are right there. I got a trophy all right when
you walk in the house. I got my magazine covers. Like,
because you gotta remind yourself of who you are because
this world's gonna try to make you forget it.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, so dupe. That is so dope, Yeah dope.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
And I reminded me of my wife's is over there
and when I wake up in the morning, and when
I wake up in the morning, it's pictures of me
and her on vacation, and it's pretty much the same
exact thing. So when I heard that about the Vanity Fair,
I was like, I was like, maybe she did she
did that to me some conscious to make me always
appreciated together.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
And she wants you to remember how mad she so listen,
I'm having so much fun.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
And I know we probably rusted this a little bit,
but I for like quick times.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
I want to get into quick time drinking so much fun.
I'm having so much fun, Like I really you sent
them as they said.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Okay, let's see, yes, I really, I really, I really
want to give you your flowers. But I know we
gave it to you already, but we okay, he's the explainer.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
B I don't see there it is.

Speaker 7 (17:33):
So this is our drinking game. We're gonna give you
two choices. Right, you pick one of the choices. We
do not drink. But if you say both are neither
basically you don't really want to answer it or you
want to be politically correct, then we all take a shot.
But we really just want you to jog memory.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Tell the stories.

Speaker 7 (17:51):
Anybody have any any stories? Anybody we mentioned any places
or anything like that, because yes, let's get a shot.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Ready.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
In nineteen forty.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Nineteen, damn, I was trying to get pissy.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
We ended, I'm trying to get pissy and talk ship
we started.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
We're going to rehearse. This is where it starts, all right,
Mike Jones or Paul Wall shot?

Speaker 4 (18:26):
How dare you?

Speaker 2 (18:29):
You could say both? In neither? Everyone story? Well you
already told to Mike Jones.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I'll do this. Oh oh okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
And it's your criteria. Could be an yeah, it could
be someone that could be both. I have a relationship
with Paul Wall okay.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
And he got me my first grill from Johnny Dang,
and I gotta give him his things, Like I fuck
with Paul Wall a good dude is like a legend,
and he's like the reason why I really started getting
into free celle wrapper and the self promoting. But Paul Wall,
I would say to this day, like he.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Sends me love. He'd be texting me.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
So I got to say, Paul Wall, okay, you have
to take the shove. Oh you answered neither, keep on,
Let's keep on, okay, sexy reader, Cardi B what's wrong
with you? Why would you do this?

Speaker 1 (19:24):
I wouldn't mean agree with you. But that is the
Dominican and the Colombian over there. No, we call that
the cocaine section.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Just let you know. And they make these they make
these questions up.

Speaker 7 (19:34):
So yes, they're trying to trip you up and they're
trying to Yeah, they want you to say both so
we can drink Yeah, both, okay both period.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
I thought you gonna say something cause.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Because we don't get a lot of females here, so
we need to ask all female questions.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Cardi b is one of the first off smartest marketers.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
She's a creative genius.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
She gave me so much like she put me on
so early in the game, and she's always given.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Me so much advice. She was like, bitch, don't be
going online and crying.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
I'm like, okay, you bitch. So look, Cardi is a
beastap a bitch, bitch, but I really really respect her grind,
her hustle. Even I just said on Twitter the way
I'm self promoting right now. I was really inspired from
her last album Drama Yeah, and I was like, okay.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Let me, let me.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
She was like this rollout. You got to be a
woman of the people.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
So I love her.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
Sexy Red is somebody who I just met because.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
We did hoes together and like that that happened. I
hope you enjoy that happened.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
So organically and because I popped out with her at
her show at Coachella and I shook ass on a
La Boo boo and I was like, we should just
do more of this, And it just.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Love when females get together and she is so fucking cool,
Like I just there's.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
A reason why she's on everyone's fucking album right now,
and it's because she's just such a likable person and
she's really easy to work with, like she's fired, like
if y'all have, y'all need her on the show.

Speaker 8 (21:24):
Because she's actually yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
But I'll tell you this, you gotta be smoke. Yeah,
we're gonna.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Chance we own that as well. But we come from
the era where.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
I know we got that already.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
It was just actually Foxy and Kim. That's the era
that that that that week that makes all of y'all like,
like I'm just being honest. Maybe it's me being self
with but we love when y'all work together. When y'all
like we don't want we don't have to tell you too,
it's kind of like we don't want.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Y'all to kind of act like guys.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
What I mean by that is like we can't get
along and we understand that, But why do you think
females don't collaborate? Like I see you collaborating with a
lot of people. Why does it at the app to
take the shot yet? Okay, I'll take it, let me
take the shot.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
So question, why do you think I.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Think that females don't collab more like, oh, don't hold
each other down?

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Okay, my bad fact.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
You want something, want to I'm gonna I'm gonna watch
it down with someone.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
I would, I would disagree, and I would say that
girls do collab a lot, like you see Gloriala and
Meg like that doing collaborations. You see Lotto and Cardi
Lotto in Glorilla Lotto.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
And Sexy Red.

Speaker 5 (22:49):
You see Sexy Red and Sizza like Doja and Rico
Nasty and Doja and me like we there is.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
I don't think that they'll ever be Like.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
I did a podcast years and years and years ago
about the first ladies in hip hop, and I got
to talk to Lo Kim and I got to talk
to the queens and they would tell me stories of
how back in the day, like Ladies' Night was just
because they was really just holding each other down. Like
Missy would tell me stories like the best friends, and

(23:23):
literally they were just pulling up to set like to
be in the video, just to be present with each other.
I don't know if that could happen in twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Six, but I will say.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
That we we as women, we collab with each other.
But I'll say another thing, fighting sales. It's true, like
beef sales more than anything these days.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
And you see the reaction when I put out positive
music and when I talk about loving everybody, I'll get roasted.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Like they look at me like not now, Lizzo, like.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
Don't hit us with that positivity ship. Like I've literally
read them say we don't want that empowering ship right now.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
I'm like fans, yeah, from.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Not fans, but just people on the internet because I
don't think these people, but it's the general consensus of
humans right like like everybody want to everybody is tussling.
Like you think about the most popular shows, it's baddies,
it's girls fucking knocking each other out, Like celebrities are going.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Into boxing Dominican Republic.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
All day, like everybody want to see. Donald Trump is
building up the USC White House like.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
He's building in the.

Speaker 9 (24:45):
Ioland I've ever seen my fucking life anyway, I don't.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Want to make noise for that.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
It's crazy because it's like, that's.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
Just where we are, that's what gets people's attention, that's
what wakes people up, and these.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Days you got to wake it up, right, you have
to wake it up.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
But I would argue and.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
Say that the girls do get along and we do
collab a lot.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
However, what is overlooked by like when you say, like
the Cardi B. Nicki Minaj, like you know, feud, and
it's like that that is so much covered that when
Cardi B and Nicki Minaj is actually collaborated, they didn't
actually cover it that same type of way.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
So that's the reason why I asked something like.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
That, Like bad news travels fast. Yes, I've had bad
news about me go far and wide, and then good
news will come out and it's not a peek, and
I'll be like, yo, why aren't you talking about this part?
Why isn't why don't yall bring this part up? You know,
like the So I honestly don't know what it is,
but it's a reflection of society and culture. So we

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can't blame the girls. We can't blame like like, it's
not our fault.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Okay, you eat it up.

Speaker 7 (26:08):
You said that Ladies and Night was the first before
that you had Money Love and Queen Latifa working together.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
What was that? That was?

Speaker 4 (26:15):
That was?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
I was just Ladies first?

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Ladies First was the Andrew Martinez record?

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, oh it was an original we're saying they were
You were saying that that them, that was the first
time that the females working together.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
No, you had it going back Queen Latifa Money, I
didn't know that. I didn't know that was different.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
That was just a different time like in society and
our economy as well.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
And what if you had the chance to recreate Ladies First?
All up to you. Now, this might be a shot,
like and I got my shots ready, Okay, what ladies
would Lizzo pick?

Speaker 5 (26:58):
Can I just pick all the people I think will
be dope on a record together?

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yes, you don't even have to have a relationship with them.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
All the people you think you think?

Speaker 1 (27:06):
What like Angie Queen Aativa comes to you and says,
we want you to recreate Ladies First, but we also
want it to be your idea meaning like the new
ladies of hip hop.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Now, who will you pick?

Speaker 1 (27:21):
This is a good one?

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, oh man oh man. I would say, me is
your record?

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Doja Cat? I think Doja Cat is like.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
She is probably the best, one of the best like
that we have out right now, when it comes to aesthetic,
when it comes to bars, when it comes to writing
like pop melodies, like she is the full package. I
would say, Meghan wraps her ass off.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
But you can't tell all.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Of that right it down has so we got Megan.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
Meghan Oja Oja.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
I believe it's like eight.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
Girls, right, Okay, that's good to know. I wasn't give
me eight Cardi B.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Cardi B. We're giving you eight. Don't worry about it,
Cardi B.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
We mad Oh my gosh, Lotto.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
It was five five lad ladies, Ladies, Ladies Night is
the one that we're still love.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Okay, let's do.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
Said okay, wait, I said somebody else.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
I did.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
It's like the symphony to Megan, Joja, Cardi Lotto.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Doch she can wrap.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
There's just so many girls, you know who I really
like and there's some there's some girls who like Mona Leoh.
I think it's really really incredible. I think Flow Milly
is incredible. This is like I don't there's not enough,
There's not enough time in the day. I Love Rhapsody

(29:37):
is incredible. Glow Glow reala sexy red. I hope I'm
not missing nobody. You remember One Train when that record
came out, and it.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Was all that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
My dream, that's my dream is to do a One
Train record. You want to go to be so crazy?
You don't so crazy. It could happen.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
But I want to ask because I asked you just
now and don't say sexy. Yeah, it's sexy.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
But I want to ask because I'm trying to be
a journalist, not because I'm trying to I'm trying to
be like, you know, job. It was notably that you
didn't say.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Nikki, oh oh, yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
I'm asking if this is we can move but because
because us as men sometimes we don't understand and I

(30:58):
want to make.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
This make sense. It's like.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Sometimes it feels like like like like when they say
the black comedians want to be one black comedian. At
one point it felt like if it want to be
one black female, right, and then things happened, Things transpire it,
and there's been way more.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
I don't think that it was that it could only
be one. There just was only one.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Okay, do you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel
like I don't.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Have no ego in all of this.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
I'm not I don't have aspirations to be the queen
of rap, the queen of pop, the queen of anything.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
So I can say this with my whole chest.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
Nicki Minaj ran like hip hop and rap for a
long fucking time. I remember there was some award show.
I don't know if it was BET Awards or something.
It was like Best Female Rap, and I remember like
the category maybe had fie and she was in it,
and when they call her name, it was like she

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kind of she kind of had to laugh at that, and.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
I was because she's like, it's me.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
And I can't imagine how that must feel to run
it for that long and then to now have an
influx of all of these, you know, extremely talented young
women who are rapping and extremely popular and successful and
winning Grammys and getting number ones, and you.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Know, I don't know how that feels.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
She's never done anything personally to me where I feel
like I have an issue with her. She may have
said things about me on the internet. A lot of
people say things about me on the internet, so I
don't have there's no beef on my end with Nicki Minaj.
I can still say that she's a great rapper and
she has great records, but I also say I can

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also say in the same breath, I don't like the
way she's been moving and the way that she talks
about me, and the way she talks about my friends,
like my real friends, you know.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
What I mean, Like.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
I cannot like that.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
I'm allowed to not like that and also respects and
be like, yeah, but you're a great rapper, you're.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
You know, like, did you have a relationship prior to this?
I did not.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
I don't have a relations.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
No, not at all.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
I think the internet.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
Doesn't, you know, they think all famous people like hang
out all the time.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
You know.

Speaker 5 (33:22):
I've had interactions with her, and I can say this
with no ego as a fan. I've had interactions with
her as a fan At met Gala, I'll be like, ooh,
can I get a picture? Type shit, and that was it.
I don't have this person's phone number.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
I've never had a conversation longer than two minutes with
this person.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
I truly don't know her.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
I know of her, So when I saw her like
saying mean things about me, I was just like, where's
this coming from?

Speaker 2 (33:52):
But I wouldn't ask that.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
Yeah, well, I mean, it doesn't hurt my feelings because
there's nothing anyone can say at this point to hurt
my feelings. But it's like she put herself in this,
in the position that she's in in the queen's throne.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
You're in the queen's throne.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
Okay, I'm not gonna and I'm gonna stay over here,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
But it is true because like it's like for me,
I thought all football players got along. My dumb ass
invited Warren sapp so Michael Vick dinner. I didn't realize
Michael Vick is the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Warren is the guy.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
And Michael Vick looks at me and he goes, what
type of shit is this?

Speaker 2 (34:39):
North? And I'm like, holy, so we are not. I'm
a little oblivious too, So we are not Eves.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
So we yeah, we think that all females are supposed
to get along. We think that this is the supposed
that you know what I mean, like like we're supposed
to hear a Lizzo record with with with Nikki, we
we feel like that's what we feel we're supposed to
hear because we don't.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
We don't understand this. You understand that makes sense?

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, but we're all naive to a certain state.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Yeah. It's funny because back when my song good as
Hell first came out, it was in the Barbershop movie.
It was a part of the Barbershop soundtrack, and it
was the same movie Nikki was in, and there were
talks of her hopping on the Goodest Hell remix back
and I remember being like.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
I would love to hear that. That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (35:26):
But other than that, like no, I fully moved into
the pop world after that, and it just never happens.
And I mean, I don't think it's going to happen
the way she feels about me.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
I don't think it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
You want a scary movie soundtrack?

Speaker 4 (35:42):
I am scary movie soundstrack, Yes.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
And when when is it that? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (35:52):
I'm so much scary movie And my album dropped the
same day June fold. It's crazy, Yeah, it can. It
couldn't be more perfect.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Big Holy yeah, this is meant to be meant to
Quick Thomas. What's the next.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Billie Eilish or Olivia.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
Dean Billie Eilish.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
I think that Billie Eilish it is kind of like
an anomaly, Like, you know, she she did something that I'm.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
You, okay, Glass, I think Billie Eilish.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
I think Billie Eilish did some new ship that we
ain't never seen before. Like I think that everyone just
has to like respect it.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
You know, like she.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
Came out with like SoundCloud rapper vibes, but like with
like a like a jazz voice, making like kind of
like emo music, and I was like, what the fuck
is going on? And It's like, yeah, a hot honey
sushi burger or something like. She she like created a

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new genre and she has like seven thousand oscars and before.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
The age of twenty one.

Speaker 5 (37:10):
So I'm like, hey, bro, you gotta give Billy her
You got to give her her things.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Give it to Billy.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yep, Okay, Next one, bum beer scarface.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Um we fuck with your Houston roots now, bum Bee,
But they are remember b Uncle Bun, Uncle Uncle Bunn.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
And tril Burgers. I love trio burgers.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
Let me tell you something. Beyonce had Trilberger's at her show.
Let me tell you somebody. We was like, wait, man,
wait what is Allegedly it's the best burger in the world.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
And I would agree the allegations are true.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
But I also am a ugk PIMPCI bumbe like I
came up on that like player's anthem is like the
national anthem, like it truly is.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
If that song comes on in the club. I tied
to text to a girl I used to see kind
and that I found this cutie pot who I want
to be, and I apologize this.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Message gets you down.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
Then I see see every girl that out in the
CZ round time smiling.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
I'd rather see her, well, hey, to.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
See y'all fround, but I'm about to see her smiling
witness all around me.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
True, but I'm no island peninsula. Maybe makes no sense,
I know, crazy, give a part. This pussy kept this
in my lap, no looking back space. Ships don't come
equipped with reverymembers. They dip as quick as they can.
The atmosphere is now ripped. I'm so like a pip.
I'm glad this night so the light from the sun
will not burn me on.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
My bun when I shoot the moon.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
High jump the broom like a premie out the womb.
My party yelling too soon, don't do it? Reconsider read
some litter.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Shut you sure fuck it.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
You know he got your back like prep do you
dirty well, wash your ass out like in detergent. Hurry, hurry,
go on to the auta. I know you ain't a
pimple pip. Remember what I tossed you keep your heart
three stacks.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Keep your heart, Hey, keep your heart, three stacks, keep
your heart.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Day. These girls are smart. Three stacks.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
These girls are smart. Play your part.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Absolutely, do not that is That was so beautiful.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
Oh my god, that was great iconic. Okay, next.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Leon Thomas or tight Dollar. I didn't make this up.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
That was crazy. That was crazy. Ty Dollar sign has
made such a contribution to records for so long, we
got to give it to Titles Sign.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yes, think of the top thouands Signs. I got a
record dropping with him. He reconstructed my whole record, so.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
That yeah, that man is a genius.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
He took my ship and said, with vibes cartail, let
me also big a boxboll.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
I was, but yes, so you can give it to.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Let's go to next one because I wanted to take
another shot.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
I don't know. I'm sorry. Nos.

Speaker 7 (40:03):
Jada kiss, Oh, Jada kiss.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
He's so sweet.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
I don't know him, but his little.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Jada. Wow. We have to go with his birthday too.
It's birthday, just passed birthday, Your birthday.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Birthday, Happy birthday, Edie Gains is.

Speaker 7 (40:27):
Too many of your birthday was the twenty seven as well?

Speaker 2 (40:30):
You got day a lot of these motherfuckers. What what
sign is y'all?

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Gym come on, White's birthday is coming up to Oh
my god, you're right.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Before Yeah, my daughter tours. I'm just exhausted, man. It's
too much for y'all, too much of them.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
We gotta give it to NOAs Nos is like one
of the kings of Rap.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Okay, yes, I like how you big? Yeah, but then
you lit.

Speaker 6 (41:07):
O.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
We love them both. And yes, Brown Usher, we want
to see this in verses as well.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
This is crazy, This is crazy.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
But I have to tell y'all, I got into a
drunken argument at three.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
In the morning to.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Hear my friends because I want to hear about it.

Speaker 5 (41:30):
Because and this is no disrespect to any of these
people in this lineup, because but I was alone. You know,
it's like, what what opinion do you have that I have?

Speaker 7 (41:37):
Everyone like she was arguing with no man, No, I
was in my principles okay, okay, okay, okay for my.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
Friends and we're all drunk and.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
He was watching music videos three in the morning. I
was alone.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
Of my principals were just like, if you put Chris
Brown Usher a Marion, I can't.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Do a Marion. And there I think Chris Brown and
Usher is enough. I know, but Mario, you just wanted
it to be complicated.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
But we said you put them all in a room and.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
It's like it's the category is singing and dancing?

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Who's coming out of live?

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Y'all had a tough conversation. It was really tough.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
But I stand behind and.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
This is no there's no exception.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Hold on.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
I feel like we need a drum roll before you
announce who you went with, because you you picked somebody
I did, all right, do a drum Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
Usher, and let me tell you why. Let me tell
you why.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
I love how has to put.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
Because in New Flame, this man saying ticked and did
the moon walk at the same fucking time when he's
like baby, baby, baby baby, do you remember what he
takes into a moon walk?

Speaker 2 (42:52):
I swear to god, I kept screaming Flame, Flame, and
they were like damn.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
I was like, put and they put it on and
he ticked into a moon talking. Everybody was like, we agree,
we agree, USh, only Usher can take into a fucking moonwalk.
And then years later that ship went viral on the internet.
There was like, you remember their part of the New
Flame where he ticked in the moonwalk.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah, I bet you do remember now.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
But I've been saying behind Usher before the Super Bowl,
before everything.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
I said, Usher got it, y'all.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
This man is very I don't want to say he
underrated because it's Usher, but there's this his runs, the
tone of his voice, his musicality in his dancing. There's
nobody like I'm drunk. I'm drunk now, there's nobody like him.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Nobody like him.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
You are so smart, you are articularly as a motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yes, I'm drunk.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
Yes, Yes, that is no shade to no one else
in this category.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
This is not Chris Brown, you put. I did put
the Marie on.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
In there because I think that it's a comparable argument.
I think all three of them is like it's a
it's equally yoked.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Yeah, it's all right.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
So and then Chris Brown had the crazy v I
P section. Oh man, but Ussher was breaking marriages up.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
He was out.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
Here cherries and mouth. Look like that was lost on me.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
They wasn't. They wasn't thinking a second time like I was.
I respect, I respect the woman that didn't go. I
love okay, I love Michael Jackson and Prince. You know,

(44:43):
where's my do you have any stories? Where's my publicist?
I can tell you this that sorry, you look like
gonna say.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
I have to say this.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
There's how lucky are we to be able to experience
or have experience or witness the kind of artistry that
Michael Jackson and Prince gave in real time? Right? Like
I'm saying, nobody, it's like, this is Mozart level shit
that in one hundred and fifty years people are still

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going to be talking about these artists. And I honestly
feel like, there's just no, it's not even possible to
be like that, no.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
More that great because people aren't.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
We got too many cell phones, we got too many
distractions to like what they had was sitting at home.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
Working on their downs over and over. Do you know
the blisters and the bleeding.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
That you have to have on your fingers to play
guitar the way Prints played guitar. But that comes from
hours of sitting and just playing. Like that's not going
to come to you after.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Going viral on siktok. It's just not going to happen.

Speaker 5 (45:53):
Yes, Like Michael Jackson was working on his spins in
a dance studio from seven pm to six in the morning.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
They don't do that no more.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
I mean, never mind that he was in the Jackson
five doing that as a little kid.

Speaker 5 (46:04):
As a little kid working from nine years old and
not just working, but the most famous family band in
the world actually invented what a pop family band is
and invented what pop stardom is.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
They literally and that's what I always say about Janet.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
She is the queen of pop because they invented pop.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
They invented it.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
Like tell me, who tell me who was doing pop
before the Jacksons, Like they were doing disco, they were
doing they were doing disco, they were doing funks, they
were doing rock and roll.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Who was doing pop?

Speaker 2 (46:37):
I wait, yeah, I don't know. If that genre even.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
Exists exactly, Like Motown literally invented what modern pop is today.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
So for me and you said Motown, yeah, I mean
that's a black label, that's one of the black.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
But they created that like in one of the one.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
Of the darkest times for black people in modern American history.
Fow second, I'd say, you know, but in the sixties,
and I would say in the twentieth century, one of
the darkest times. They were creating light pop music and
they were like, and it was intentional. It was like
you and they were winning and they were doing it

(47:18):
foo boo for us, not us, yes, and they were like,
they divested from the majors who were run by you know,
non black people, and they said, let's do this ourselves
because they're paying us a penny for a hit song,
I'm about to do this myself. And they did, and
they created what we have today. They created what we
have to They say.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
The impact Michael Jackson had is there's.

Speaker 5 (47:40):
Nobody, nobody, a pop star of that magnitude and it
will never happen again. Baby, it just is impossible.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
This is so beautiful. Your answer, I don't even think
I want you to answer.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
No, I'll drink for you. You don't have principle.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
It is the greatest guitar player of all time. There's nobody.

Speaker 5 (48:04):
I'm sorry, Eric Clapton, I'm sorry, Uh, what's uh, Chuck Berry,
I'm sorry sorry to this man like it's Prince. There's
no but but I think that because his songwriting was
so incredible, and his voice was so incredible, and his
showmanship was so incredible, and his keys were so incredible,
and his legacy so incredible, and his bit everything is

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branding was so you forget that this man literally would
turn a guitar into.

Speaker 4 (48:35):
A big, slew footed bitch.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
He'd be playing a guitar during Purple Rain and it'd
be like, and I'm like, who sang? It's the fucking
guitar And it's crazy, like there's nobody there. There's that
was the guitar was singing. On the record, there's footage
of him doing a guitar solo to Purple Rain and

(48:57):
it sounded like a woman singing, but it's the guitar.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Like there's just nobody.

Speaker 5 (49:03):
Who's touching him When it comes to musicality, you know,
you know the story that Michael Jackson, if he had
an idea he would run to the studio because he said,
if you went to sleep, That's how Taptain Prince was
and the.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
We always asked about Michael and Prince on this show
because I haven't got the chance to meet them either.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
I never did, But I love they beef.

Speaker 10 (49:28):
Do you know what's so crazy? Michael named his kid Prince? Well,
that's right, I did not remember. You think it was
after Prince? Yes, you think they as much.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
And that's what I love about when they say beef.
That that's the difference between what they had.

Speaker 7 (49:45):
You run over Michael Jackson, I'm sure he didn.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Gemini crazy, June, My god, you got Gemini.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Will take it the head.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
Yeah, you know, deep down a side he respected what
Michael did.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
And you can tell that Michael respected to respected James
Brown performing.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
Yeah, yeah, just roll up on his securities back.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Talking about Michael had him see the table to Teddy
was born.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
God, we don't even have nothing comparable to that today.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
And you know who we had.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
We had where I am and will I am told
us a night where he performed and he invited Prince and.

Speaker 7 (50:36):
I invited Michael he invited Michael the Princess of Miani
and then Mike.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Jack a meaning a meaning exactly, and I was I
had never even heard that word before. I was like,
I was like appalled because I was like, what does
that mean? Like a meanie?

Speaker 1 (50:57):
And then he was like, no, he was a mean person,
and I was like, prince And then you hear the
stories about Prince of him playing basketball. Yeah, I heard
he was Yeah, I heard he was doll okay.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Wenking for that, because that's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I
don't even want you to answer. I don't know because
because there is no answer.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
I don't think it should be. I don't I think
you answered it correctly. Let's go Beyonce, Rihanna.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
I hate y'all. Remember it's them, it's not it's not us.
Please don't don't directed to me and him.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Oh god, and their name is hazardous and mister Lee
just in case if you want to like throw hecks
on them.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
Beyonce or a Rihanna.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
I once again, how lucky are we like to have both?

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yes? You know what, I you know what I really realized.
I grew up.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
With Rihanna, but like she was the most famous pop
star in the world.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
I didn't grow up literally with her.

Speaker 5 (52:13):
I mean I grew up watching her as a fan
and she were like similar age and she was the
biggest pop star in the world.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
And I feel like kids, so they don't kids, so
they don't have that.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
Kids kids today because where are between channels, Like there's
no Disney or Nickelodeon, Like there's no all that. There's
no pop stars popping out at that age anymore. Yeah, yeah,
but most of our pop stars are in their mid

(52:45):
to late twenties and thirties at this point. And it
was so interesting, like wow, Rihanna really gave us a
lot from like the age of sixteen and was doing
like Pondie.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
Replace sixteen, Like that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (52:57):
Beyonce Desney's child fourteen fifteen, No, no, no, incredible. I
have to say I have to go with Beyonce because
Beyonce is.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
One of one of yours right now.

Speaker 5 (53:18):
She's one of the most important figures to my life.
Like when I say, in the fifth grade, I'm out
here on a track in Houston, sweating, trying to run
and sing at the same time, because I was like,
this is what.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
Beyonce does, and she this is how she trains.

Speaker 5 (53:34):
And like just watching her perform. I've seen every single
tour I've seen. I've seen Beyonce at the Rodeo in
two thousand and four. Like, let's be real, Like she
is the artist in my.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Life, is in my notes. So this is a big again,
but y'all like Summer jam. Oh, I think it's I
think it's bigger than Summer Jam or like those types
of things will be in an arena.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
This is a stadium.

Speaker 11 (54:06):
It's not called super Bowl, Okay, But I would say
Beyonce though I love Rihanna so much and I think
she's the coolest person in the world and she actually
can't do any wrong.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
Beyonce is like the the artists of my life.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
I respect.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Yeah, you don't need to take a shot though by.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
That Whitney Houston or Ammy white House. Whitney, I'm about
to say, damn, I can answer that one. Whitney.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
Yeah, resting piece of both.

Speaker 5 (54:33):
I think Amy white House was very cool and it's tragic,
you know both. Whitney is like she don't got no
business being gone. Like when I see videos with Whitney,
I get mad that she's not here, Like I wanted
her to know who I was so bad I want.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Her she could feel like good.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
That would just be my dream. Had an awards shown.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
To shout me out. But yeah, Whitney, like, there's.

Speaker 5 (54:58):
Nobody I would say when it comes the great vocalists.
I always say Karen Clark Shared is the greatest singer
of all time living her Karen Clark Shared, But Whitney
is right there, right there next to her.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
I respect that.

Speaker 7 (55:12):
Yeah, all right, Little Flipper, slim Thug.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
This is the way we all we like Little Flip Man,
Little Flip.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
It's the freestyle king like we love swim Thug. Slim
Thug is alumni.

Speaker 5 (55:33):
Y'all don't know the impact Little Flip had on me
going on the radio and just freestyling off the dome
in the.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
Morning, get out of here.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
I would call.

Speaker 5 (55:40):
Into ninety seven to nine the Bucks and I would
do the the mad had the morning show, and it'd
be like, what's up, y'all? What you gotta say? Who's
on the micro hatter? Screw today?

Speaker 2 (55:48):
I feel like my name is went on from the Southwest.
You know, I'm coming down with the ant on my chest.
That may fool, that may be, But where do you
call it?

Speaker 4 (55:55):
From what show said, g s w a t from
the fucking flat?

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Why didn't cuss? I got a little bitch, bitch, I
got a lot you know whatever. I'm faking that up.

Speaker 5 (56:03):
But I want tickets to see fifty cent because I
want the freestyle And I remember I want tickets to
see a lot of concerts because I would constantly wake
up early and win the freestyle challenge because of Little Flip.
And one day, I remember they put me on hold
because they're like, you want tickets, be on.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Hold, and Mad had her.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
He came in.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
He's like, he was like hey, He's like, what's your name.
I was like, my name is Lizzo. He was like,
you're really good. I was like, I'm about to be
famous fourteen.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Showdo.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
But Little Flip completely like he was like my number
one inspiration to like be a freestyle rapper, Like I
love freestyle rapping because of him.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Okay, I'm long winded. Why are great Bruno Mars or
Lady Gaga Wo.

Speaker 5 (56:52):
Bruno Mars, Bruno Mars. I don't have personal stories about
either of them because I you know, I've had interactions
with Bruno because we work out of the same studio,
so I see him walk by and I'll be like
and Bruno actually gave me notes on one of my
records that I put out on my last album on Naked,

(57:12):
and I remember he was like, he was like, you
got to make this sexier because I was trying to
make it like.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
Political and like empowering.

Speaker 5 (57:19):
And he was like, who you getting naked for the
world for politics? And I was like, oh, he's like,
you're getting naked for your man. I was like yeah,
he was like them right about that. I was like, damn,
Like he's.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
So good.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
And like he don't got time for no bullshit.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
He'll be like, get it together, make it ahead, and
I'm like, yes, sir, but but I have to go
with Bruno because Bruno is just you know, you know
what's so fire about him? He only got like thirty
songs out, Like, if you really think about it, his
discography is like ten for ten, like he don't miss

(57:58):
It's really crazy, Like really look at his discography and
see how many albums he put out and how many
records he put out, albums with ten songs on it,
and it'll be like.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
One of them has a billion streams on every album.

Speaker 6 (58:10):
I didn't realize that nigga got like three albums out
with ten songs.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
He probably like thirty songs.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
I didn't realize, and.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
They're all hits, So like he, I think it's just really.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
He's got an album with.

Speaker 5 (58:24):
Yeah, oh my god, swags not not swag Swisher.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
What is they called?

Speaker 5 (58:31):
What's the name of their group, the swag Swisher? What
do I want to say? Swag Swisher? That don't make
no sense.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
I like them.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
They're called.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Come on your phone. Okay, God damn mother was like
the hand thinking about the high lit and Jesus he
swag Sonic Okay, Missy or Lauren Hip?

Speaker 5 (59:08):
Yeah no, and now it's time to go. We know,
and you know you really thought you. I thought y'all
ate with Michael and Prince, but Missy and Lauren. This
is probably one of the hardest questions I've ever been asked.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Get out of here.

Speaker 5 (59:24):
I could literally cry thinking about both of these women
and their impact they've had.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
On me just existing.

Speaker 5 (59:31):
I am actually afraid. Okay, let me tell you why.
Lauren Hill is just like one of the greatest all times.
She had one solo album out and it's still.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Considered one of the greatest all time.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
I'll go and it's crazy, like who else can do that?

Speaker 2 (59:48):
I don't know? She still.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
And we and we show up. I just saw her
at miss because a lot of playing the ball, we don't.
I have no complaints. I waited, I sat there and
I waited for that band and stuff. It was worth
the weight, honey and that band. Sorry, but that band baby,
like if she's like James Brown with that band, she's

(01:00:13):
the band leader and she controls it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
But I have the say so.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
So miseducation changed my life because I've never heard anyone
rap as good as they sing and sing as good.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
As they rap. I never heard in my life. Honestly,
you can't name nobody. Maybe but I'm trying to get.

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
But you can't name nobody who's really doing it like
that soulful vocals with runs, melismas and you could just
be like jazzmaalisma is like a run.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
I can tell you went to all your classes. I did.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
I studied music theory in college.

Speaker 5 (01:00:49):
But I would say she she sing like jazz and Sullivan.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
And she rapped like black thought.

Speaker 11 (01:00:55):
It's crazy, it's crazy, crazy that dis nobody can do it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
I'm taking a shot even if you don't want to
how before you can keep going? How ill she is.

Speaker 7 (01:01:07):
So these guys send the list right and sometimes I
think they're doing some crazy research where they come.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Up with a name that I've never heard of my life.
And I said, Lauren Hip because that's what they wrote.
H I p P and you you knew it was
Lord Hill? Wait, you said hip back, I said, and
you said you went into Lord Hill. I was confused.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
She looked right through your drunk.

Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
You're like, obviously, Missy, I said, I said, I was hip.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
But I'm going to give and you know what else
is another thing.

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
I've had collaborations with both of them in different ways.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Miss Hill.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
She cleared the do wop that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
Thing sample wow for one of my records on my
last album, Breakups Twice, that I did with Mark Ronson,
and then Missy Elliott on my first album we did
Tempo together. So I'm very indebted to both of these women.
Missy Elliott, can we just clear the stage?

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
Missy Elliott?

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Is when you when you talk.

Speaker 5 (01:02:19):
About who's the Who's one of the best producers in
the game, Missy, Who's one of the best writers in
the game. Missy who's one of the best rappers in
the game, Missy who's one of the best creative directors
in the game, Missy who's like best videos, Missy best style,
Missy dance, the way she put puts dancers on it,

(01:02:39):
and and and and bigged up hip hop dance. In
that time, it had that little girl Alison doing the
little little white girl that we did. Like the way
Sierra she know she discovers here like yeah, and just
a good person. Missy I think is she's always on

(01:03:01):
my top five. I love that she's always on my
top five when you talk about rappers, when you talk
about musicians, when you talk about anything, and Missy put
me and believes in me, one of the few people
to believe in me when nobody else was believing in me.
I got to go work with her in.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
The studio years and years and years ago in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
And actually both be in a studio together.

Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
Yes, but I've never seen her record. Allegedly she don't
she don't play that game. She she not, no, So
I've never seen her record, but we were in it.
But I saw her d behind the boards and I
was like, oh my god, I was like shaking. But
we were in the studio and I remember, did I never.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Saw a recording?

Speaker 5 (01:03:40):
Now think about it, you ain't, No, yeah, because you
know what that's there's a she's a genius and she's
not about to give you the sauce like I don't
know why, but I think she's like Prince in the
way where I don't want to I don't even want

(01:04:02):
to see it. I know it's got to be fire
but meticulous and special.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
But anyway, she had me in the studio.

Speaker 5 (01:04:10):
And she sat me in the booth and she would
just play beats and she would have me freestyle on
the beat and she'd be like, Okay, next beat, and
I would freestyle on that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
She'd like, okay, next beat.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
When you're freestyle, are you freestyling in the booth or
you freestyling in the booth?

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
So it's actually being Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:04:26):
She has so many demos of me just freestyle rapping
and singing on songs and writing songs. And she was like,
you got a genius brain. And I was like, I
didn't hear anything else she said after that, because she
was trying to give me She was like, you know,
and when you have a genius brain, first of.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
All, let me ask you, how did y'all? How did
y'all connect?

Speaker 5 (01:04:51):
We're both on Atlantic Record and they knew I was
a huge fan. Like when I first walked into Atlantic Records,
it's like there's portraits of all the artists on the walls,
and when I saw Missy, I just stood And I
think I begged two people I begged Atlantic Records to
work with when I first joined Missy Elliott and Cardi B.

(01:05:13):
When Cardi B first joined and she was fresh off
love and hip Hop and I heard the news that
she got signed to Atlantic, I said, please, please come
to do a song with Cardi B. I love her
because I've been watching her since she was eating corn
on a cop.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
And the strip club.

Speaker 5 (01:05:26):
So but Missy, I was like, please, like, if there's
ever a way to collaborate with her, to work with her,
And I got to go work with her, and those songs.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
I don't know if they'll see the light of day.

Speaker 5 (01:05:38):
But then a few years later, when I wrote tempo,
I was like, what if Missy got on this?

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
And I sent it to her and she did it
and we did the video and the rest is her story.

Speaker 5 (01:05:46):
So I long winded lee will go with Missy Elliott.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
I want to say.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
I want to say a story that I told her
to my brother in law when you first came out.
I called Mike Kaiser, I called Tom Moskis, I called
Julie Greenwell, and I said, get behind her.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
I wanted to do a record with you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Really, they did not give me access to you, but
I knew. So, like what you just said about Missy
is like, I feel so great because this is something
I did behind.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Your back, like in a good way.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
You know, you talked behind your back and that's a
bad thing, but this was something that I was like, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
I was like, yo, I wanted to do a record
with you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
And they were like you sure, and I was like yes,
And I was like I wanted them to know how
much of a star I believed who you are and
you became and you became.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Did I not tell you that this is my brother
in law's and my wife and my wife?

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
I was like, I was like, yo, she said, I
knew you don't know this, like I know you didn't
I know you didn't know this like that because that
was they were depth jam.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
And then they moved to Atlanta, right yeah, And so
I saw I don't want I can't claim your success.
I just said I saw it, and I said I
wanted to co sign it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
And you know what's so crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:07:20):
I feel like nobody was fucking with me for so long.
But I realized I was just being kind of gate kept.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Ye you probably were were it wants to work.

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
With me, And then it turns out it was like, oh,
everyone wants to work with you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
You just tell them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Probably was yes, because they basically told me, know in
the most respectful way. They was like, you know what,
she's she's new, and you're you're kind of like I
was like, oh, super.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
But you know, crazy, like there's a story about little
YACHTI and he had a song Oprah Bank Accounts and
he wanted to do a drink on there and he
was like I wanted Lizzo, but I know she didn't
want to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
And I was like, wait, don't even know believe him
because I'm I might not be LORIOTTI, but up in
that section going to work.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
And they were like, you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Know, not for not for right now, like so fun, yes, yes,
I want to take a shot. For that, I'm gonna
I want to take a shot.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
Take a shot I'm gonna get a little bit.

Speaker 7 (01:08:16):
You're doing great.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
You got another one?

Speaker 8 (01:08:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
We got five more ship Emine rhyme. I love this one,
eminem bus.

Speaker 5 (01:08:28):
This is crazy because I'm from I am born in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
What up to and eight mile did change?

Speaker 5 (01:08:38):
I was wearing a black hoodie for like two years
after that ship came out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
So I'm wrapping it back and napsacking the back.

Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
But hello, be rebbit And that is my karaoke song,
mom Spaghetti bo Boy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Who's the rapper? Bust rhymes? Bust?

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
I have to give it a bust of rhymes.

Speaker 5 (01:08:59):
You know what I really feel like, bust the rhymes.
First off, that's my tourist brother. But second off, when
I really think about it, he might be one of
my earliest memories of a hip hop music video.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
I think he might have been.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
That if you really want to, I.

Speaker 5 (01:09:21):
Remember, like that's a memory that's unlocked in the back
of my brain, like one of my first memories of
seeing like a rap music video.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
That's so dope. I remember that. But I'm in like
a thinking So when she says that, I'm thinking, she's
thinking it like how I see hit?

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
How you know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Saying like like and you saying that's one of.

Speaker 5 (01:09:49):
The first memories of that's crazy seeing a rap music
video was that that's great that one and I can't
stay in the rain like I remember being like like,
that's the early like I might have been the first
rap the first like rap music videos I ever like
saw And So what's interesting about Bussa is his career

(01:10:10):
and the way he's able to evolve.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
He went from he's still outside, oh my god, all
the way outside him getting tired.

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
Y'all know, you know mass Martin producer, like how he
was producing for like like people in the eighties like
as the Bass and and then Britney Spears and Bashy Boys,
but he got records with Taylor Swift today. Bussa is
similar in that way for hip hop, which he has
records with people who rapp like late eighties, early nineties,

(01:10:44):
and he got look at Me Now with Chris Brown,
and it's like crazy, like who is really able to
do that in rap?

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
I don't know no one.

Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
I don't know one. But he has an elastic voice.
He has a huge personality. I just know my ship
and I love music so much. Bust rhymes, I think
is one of the most musical. Oh my god, you
know my favorite him and Janet.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Oh cool got make his name my name? And you
know that little white drop on her lip, you're not
supposed to be nut? Whoa what? What?

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
What?

Speaker 5 (01:11:12):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:11:14):
You know that whole music video is a is a
female orgasm.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
And you know this per fact? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
Well yeah right because that tone, you know that tonel
that she's standing in and it's like it's dripping and
it's like pulsating and she's standing in there and she.

Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
Has the that's the walls.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
And then I was just paying to he kept saying
what what.

Speaker 12 (01:11:37):
Joint at something?

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
That's when it first came out.

Speaker 8 (01:11:42):
I loved this in the last five years.

Speaker 5 (01:11:46):
It was that little white drop was like a And
then remember when Buster was coming in like a soldier.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Doesn't he his name is Busts right now?

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
That's it. I don't think I can't. I want to
call him right now, but I know him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
But your god cool when we get off the park,
so I know that, but that I'm calling up watch
and if it's not, we don't mind because this this
was a great footage. Okay, what's at least keys or
ericab We had them both on here and they both

(01:12:31):
smoked too.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Oh yeah, did I believe it? Damn.

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
Alicia plays the instrument. Erica's voice is her instrument.

Speaker 5 (01:12:49):
I have to go Eric about do I have to
go Eric about Texas?

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
She Dallas?

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
I forgot that far.

Speaker 5 (01:12:58):
I know Texas is going to win every time Alicia keys.
I remember being like, there's no one more beautiful to
her when she came out with no One, no one,
when she had the dual pianos. I was like, there's
no one more beautiful than her, and no one more talented,
no one more incredible. But what Erica about Do did
for neo soul is just when you think about the

(01:13:22):
way they ushered that genre in and defined it and
was so blacketty, blackety black.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
Like you look back at On and On and you're like,
wait a.

Speaker 5 (01:13:33):
Minute, this is like the blackest shit I've ever seen
in my life. This is like color purple sugs like,
and i'n apologetic, you know what I'm saying. She shaved
her head and war headscarfs that touched the ceiling. She's
just an anomaly. She's an alien, and I love her.

(01:13:55):
I really do love Erica like every time I see her,
she's always like this. She just looked got green eyes
and she just stares at you in the eyes, and
it's like it makes you uncomfortable, don't they you?

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
She has a great spirit to look away. She gave
me was it instance.

Speaker 5 (01:14:12):
That sounds like her vagina?

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
She's and we and we want it? And it sold out?

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Did it not?

Speaker 5 (01:14:19):
Set?

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
Did not sell out?

Speaker 5 (01:14:21):
That? I think she's very very I think she's very
very important, and I think she's going to go down
in history.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
I believe so too.

Speaker 7 (01:14:30):
I believe all right, lot O Glorilla that at the boil.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
A, tell me what you think, pretty much, you tell
me if you can. That's what she said. You can
do it, kind of right, you can do it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
You said, thought you said, you said, give me what
you think. Okay, sorry, Loto or glow Rilla.

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
Damn, that's really hard.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Yeah, that's really hard.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
That's really hard, really hard.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:15:19):
Yeah, yeah, that's hard.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
I'm gonna this is gonna get worse.

Speaker 7 (01:15:23):
Stevie Wonder, Lionel Richie.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
That's from the shop Stevie Wonder. Oh damn, sorry, was
that too fast? No?

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
No, you know I love the Richies.

Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
I absolutely adore to Richie's I think that Stevie Wonder
is one of the greatest artists of all time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Did you see him in Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. He
did nine out of ten.

Speaker 5 (01:15:51):
Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Can we talk about this?

Speaker 5 (01:15:56):
Is this the safe space we've talked about all.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
The time, stories about about him crossing business streets? Yeah, yeah,
told us the brothers told us he's seen him go
across the street.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Jack told us he's seen them pressing button.

Speaker 5 (01:16:09):
Paul McCartney's mic stand as it was falling in mid air.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Neg. Yeah, it's all came bro, the mic stand do this?

Speaker 4 (01:16:19):
He goes, how did you do that?

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
The best? I want you to. I want to I
want to fully warn you. You might be giving us
the best TV story. Have so many snoop saying that
he faced that that FaceTime.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
Yeah, he FaceTime.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
You have a FaceTime story, And I don't know his
senses might be that into.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
He might have heard our friends. Can they was.

Speaker 5 (01:16:52):
All says Jammin. Paul McCartney had a microphone like this.
Paul McCartney was, you know, lit, you know, being Paul
mccartt want a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
He spun to.

Speaker 5 (01:17:01):
Get off stage. He knocks his mike stand down. The
mike stand doing this. Stevie, he in the same vicinity
he's walking through, caught it in mid air as it
was falling. It said, how do you do I don't understand.
I don't understand that. I don't understand. Now here's the argument.
He might have super sonic hearing. He might have to

(01:17:24):
put doun of hearing. He might be very like in
tone with the vibrations. He might have felt the vibrations
in the street. I'll say this he blind he was,
is that we have so many stories.

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
He might be a superhrman.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
But when when when Ron Ozzie, we need Stevie here.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
Look, but I feel like once we get Stevie is
gonna like the stories.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
So but Ron told me told us, Yeah, he told
us that he saw him cross the higher busy. Is
he intersection? Who's gonna hit Stevie? Wonder like, you're not
gonna fla. I didn't think of that point. I didn't
think of that, Poy. But you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
Was about so hard to say that's Stevie, he said.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
Went up to shack He went into the elevator. Yeah,
and didn't know Shaq was there. Well, Shack has a scent.
I also believe that. Also believe he said himself, Jesus, no,
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
I don't know Shack is hell. He smells good to me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
And yes, but he might It might have been the shade,
like you know, like's not that he can't the same.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Is a loud breather.

Speaker 7 (01:18:47):
So he decided because yeah, he probably hurt him Dark Vader.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
He has a huge loansman. So he recognized them breathing
maybe and was like, what's up, Shack. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:19:09):
He could have a rolodex of just sounds and vibrations,
but he caught.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
A mic stand in mid air.

Speaker 5 (01:19:16):
I don't know how he did that. And it's and please,
it's on camera. It's on camera. If you ever feel.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Inclined, oh I'm looking, we're looking it up.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
Yeah you should, because I think he might be a
super herman.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Okay, so Steebee, sorry, we can't talking about that all day. Okay,
Travis Scott or playboard CARDI.

Speaker 5 (01:19:42):
So there's a theme here with Houston. I have to
go with Travis Scott. I have to go with Traviscott.
But let me tell you something. I love Travis Scott.
I loved Astra World. You know, I grew up going
to Astro World.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Because that's when he brought it back.

Speaker 4 (01:19:58):
Like we were so happy, like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
The Aftra World that people it was the six Flags.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
Yeah, but he brought it back, and he brought it
back his style. Yeah, because Astro got shut.

Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
Down, and yeah, we will go wear airbrush shirts and
try to pull numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
I wouldn't get none. It's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
I was a funny one, but but.

Speaker 5 (01:20:21):
You go, you stand outside, is how this fuck you
get a roller coasters?

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
They shut it down.

Speaker 5 (01:20:25):
They tore it down and demolished it. It was very
Saturday for Houston. But you know we had the astrosa team. Yeah,
Aftra World. He brought it back in his own way.
I thought that was very incredible. I think that he's
extremely talented. He's had a lot of influence in hip hop,
like working with Kanye in the early days. I think
that Travis is very, very, very talented.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
That being said, I.

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
Recently got into Playboy CARDI.

Speaker 5 (01:20:53):
I really like him, y'all, am I am, I really
like him, Like that man can't elevate a song and
some of you are.

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
And I'm like, damn, what the.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
Into this ship. He goes, he goes in.

Speaker 5 (01:21:10):
Something about him And I went to go see the
weekend when he opened for him, and I went fucking early,
and I brought my best friend and her kids.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
Because they loved open.

Speaker 5 (01:21:21):
Don't get me canceled with Abel, No Playboard party open
for the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Because that's not a great now I had that.

Speaker 5 (01:21:27):
Yeah, I brought my best friend and her kids because
they love Playboy Party.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
And I was like, let's get.

Speaker 4 (01:21:30):
There early and let's watch the show.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
I was gagged. I was gagged. I love how you called.
You slipped that in. I think he wants to go
by the weekend no more, my ture fanma buggin.

Speaker 5 (01:21:41):
I think I feel like he said he's the weekends
done and he's able now.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Okay, okay, he is able. Okay, yeah, move on before wend. Yeah, no,
I want to see that video. We just got the
video in oh to see anyone.

Speaker 5 (01:21:55):
Look at this ship. Look at this ship. Look at
this fucking ship. Look at this ship doing too much?
You want too much?

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
More? Did I lie? Did I lie? He kisses right there?

Speaker 5 (01:22:13):
What question is McCartney doing all that on stage? Skipping
and ship that does that?

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Does look like he on point, but but you're also.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Right he could be a super human super Herman.

Speaker 4 (01:22:26):
Herman are super Herman.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Okay, all right, let's go.

Speaker 5 (01:22:30):
We'll go real call Beyonce and I will never say
super superhuman.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
It's super Herman, super Herman.

Speaker 4 (01:22:36):
She said she is super Herman.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
I respect that You're got me drunk, we got you,
we got your back. Shout out sports illustrated what I'm
doing in an hour? Alright, we definitely only have a
few lefts. So okay, yeah, j Lo or Mighty Cyrus.

Speaker 5 (01:23:03):
I genuinely feel like you want me to get my
ass beat, like.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
You want me to get my ass beat Dominicans. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:23:14):
Fuck, Actually, this is really hard. This is really hard.
This is really hard. This is really hard. This is
really hard. This is really hard.

Speaker 4 (01:23:27):
Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 5 (01:23:28):
Okay, j Lo or Miley Cyrus.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
What the fuck is wrong with y'all? Be random? Can
I say something? Am I? It's just a safe face.
Nobody's listening.

Speaker 5 (01:23:50):
Only five hundred million, how many people are just looking?
I think that I think that Miley Cyrus is one
of the best singers of this generation. Wow, I really
genuinely do the girl can sing, she can sing her
as I'm sorry, am I crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
Agrees with you right now?

Speaker 5 (01:24:11):
No, no, don't fun to put on some job rule
and j low it's a rap. However, I would say,
like Miley, you know who's a sweetheart, who whom I
I've texted with?

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
She's an angel.

Speaker 5 (01:24:28):
Miley will sit in her home studio and just write
and sing and put out a whole album. And I
really respect her artistry, and I think that she has
if you're talking about great singers from this most recent
young generation, Miley eating a lot of people, love, a

(01:24:49):
lot of really singing like her pops. Come on, don't
break my heart, Mike breaking heart.

Speaker 4 (01:24:58):
I just don't think they'll under saying that's Miley's dad.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
You know that. I was just impressed to how music
who you are?

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
Like, I'm a music major, yes, I'm just.

Speaker 5 (01:25:09):
I think people think I'm just like a fat, pretty
bitch that make jokes. I'm like, yo, bitch, Like, why
do you think I could play the flute?

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
You just play the flute't.

Speaker 6 (01:25:20):
Knowing what the fun you're talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
We got three more? Okay, three more? Three more? Ago
Kanye or Pharrell? I hate y'all, remember that's dumb.

Speaker 5 (01:25:40):
I hate y'all the proverbial y'all. Okay, yes, yeah, Kanye
or Pharrell? What's wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
Not me? How many? How many records you got with Farrell?
I got too many to count.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Me and Farrel started off I don't want to say
started off career together.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
But guess what you got on Jesus Peace? Who did
you get that from?

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
You're going to say, is that ya?

Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
Who was wearing Jesus Peace before you?

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
A lot of people really really simmy.

Speaker 4 (01:26:15):
I found out who they were when they died, so.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
I know that, and that ain't nothing wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
Yeah, listen to but I believe the first person that
wore I believe we had this argument on this show
was the first person that wore Jesus Peace was Biggie Smalls.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
Yes, with the Jesus piece. He said, Jesus like a human.
I do love Biggie, I know, I said. I found out,
you know who they were after they passed. But that's
because I grew up in the coach of church.

Speaker 5 (01:26:53):
I was not allowed to listen to Secondar music. He
was gonna go to hell. I found out about them.
I fully consumed their their I know Biggie and and
pop now. So that's why I can do that for
the folks at home.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
Back to y'all, but back to Pharrell.

Speaker 5 (01:27:04):
Oh yeah, okay for Rell, yay, Yeah, this isn't.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Fair that one we're gonna have to take a show.

Speaker 4 (01:27:13):
We're gonna have to take a shot.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
I would like that. I would like that very much.
I want to smoke.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
And I have great history with both of them. So
solo shout out to you got.

Speaker 5 (01:27:22):
With Kanye West. I got to tow so many with
Pharrell to account, but.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
I have I have records with Pharrell that uh that's
that never came out really and we just was just
working and I went and listen to it the other
day and I was impressed. I was like, fuck, why
did I throw these out? Like, yeah, why did we
throw these out?

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
You for?

Speaker 4 (01:27:53):
I feel like Pharrell would never want to work with me.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
No, listen like for want to work woman, No, no, no.
In Paris.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
It's the two places that I suggest if you do
this happens, I'll definitely put it in the call. But
there's two places I would recommend Paris, Paris and Miami.

Speaker 4 (01:28:15):
I'll be in Paris in June or into June July.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
What I don't want to ask you, but yeah, we'll
also be in Paris.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
You will my wife.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
I'm sorry you can make that connection with us. I
would love I would love it. I would love I
might it might be one of my records.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
But that.

Speaker 9 (01:28:41):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
The whole Atlantic staff. Patti LaBelle or the frank.

Speaker 5 (01:28:49):
Drank out of Patty's wine glass. She said, drink Patty
wine and she put it up to my lips and
I said okay, and she she met. He matched the
lipstick print with my mom and I felt anointed in
that moment. Can we just talk about how Aretha Franklin? Like,

(01:29:19):
can we talk about Aretha Ranglin for a minute? Like,
have did y'all see Amazing Grace the documentary? So there
was a documentary that was filmed in the seventies. Okay,
by the way, when Aretha released I've Never Loved a
Man that record that had respect on it, the church.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Was like, oh, you're a sellout.

Speaker 5 (01:29:35):
And every great black female artist has been kind of
rejected by her community. In the beginning, Whitney getting booed
at the Soul Train Awards because they was like, oh,
you're not You're not for us Da Da Da Dah.
Aretha's moment was when she dropped I have never loved
a man and had respect. And they were like, oh, no, no, no, no,

(01:29:57):
you're not, you're not. You abandoned the church, who abandoned
black music? You're doing that pop shit now. She came
back and said, Okay, I'm gonna record a whole gospel
album at my father's church and the Greater Methuselah behethl
Lenham fucking amc first and second, I don't know the

(01:30:18):
name of the church. Clearly, I clearly she was somewhere
and she sat on a piano I would say a
piano and performed piano and vocals and had her family
church or choir behind her and her dad.

Speaker 4 (01:30:34):
At the poolpit. And they filmed it. They filmed it.

Speaker 5 (01:30:39):
I think it was two nights of it. First night,
whole audience was Black Detroit. Like second night her pop.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
You could see like a.

Speaker 4 (01:30:47):
Twenty year old Mick Jagger in the audience. It's crazy.
They filmed it.

Speaker 5 (01:30:52):
The footage got lost so they couldn't find it for
over thirty years and forty wait, when was the seventies,
seventy eighty ninety two thousand, fifty work. They couldn't find
it for over forty fifty years.

Speaker 4 (01:31:07):
They found it one day and they.

Speaker 5 (01:31:09):
Put it together and they said, here's here's the doc
that should have came out fifty years ago. So y'all
should watch Amazing Grace. It's incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
I'm watching tonight.

Speaker 5 (01:31:17):
I have never in my life like I always knew
Aretha was like the queen of soul, and I knew
that she had like an incredible vocal, and she was
like the one, and I always like mirrored. I always
mirrored my career after Aretha and Tina, you know, because
I just felt like Tina turned teas are.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
Her turn her.

Speaker 5 (01:31:36):
Because of the age I was when I signed to
Atlantic and so on and so forth, and the soul
that I like to and enjoy.

Speaker 4 (01:31:44):
They like to admit.

Speaker 5 (01:31:47):
But her voice and piano is so transcendent. I hate
to keep I hate to be a broken record. There's
nobody who can sing and play an instrument right now
at the same time like that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
There's it's just because the church ain't what it used
to be.

Speaker 5 (01:32:12):
You don't have young people coming up in the church
learning their horn or learning their instrument in the church fighting.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
Back in the days came from the church, and then.

Speaker 5 (01:32:24):
And they have ship else to do with the church,
Like you're there.

Speaker 4 (01:32:30):
And then you're there.

Speaker 5 (01:32:31):
You're in her voice in that piano were like the
way princes with the guitar. It's just it's so fluid
and synonymous. She could play the phone book, she could
cuss me out on the piano and sing, and I'd
be grateful.

Speaker 4 (01:32:46):
I'd be like, yes, yes, call me a bitch, call me,
call me stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
I don't give like she.

Speaker 5 (01:32:52):
It's it's stunning, and I think as an adult, like
you know, I didn't grow up in the era with Reifa,
so I didn't really hear ahe.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
That's why I also impressed of you, even like knowing
this music like.

Speaker 5 (01:33:04):
But however, when you go back, when you go back
and listen to it, it's it's it's on inspiring. I
can't even believe how easy runs flew out of that
woman's throats.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Well playing the artist.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
This is why I'm so impressed with you. Most artists
don't do their history. They don't, they don't, they don't do.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
Everything you're saying, Like, I'm so impressed with you. I
already knew.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
I was like, I watched all your interviews, I watched everything,
but I already knew that. But it's like you actually
you actually did your homework with with these artists, and
it's like and you know what you're talking about, Like yeah,
I've really really really impressed.

Speaker 5 (01:33:42):
Like yeah, it's a small percentage of people where it
even matters anymore, like knowing your like knowing your history
and understanding music to create good music. Yo, Like people
don't want to hear that shit no more. They want
to hear just a song that came out ten years
ago remixed.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
They don't.

Speaker 5 (01:34:00):
They don't give a fuck, And I think we we
gotta get with that. We like we have to be
like okay, cool, Like so what do you want me
to I'm a bitch, I'm I love. I'll just you know,
like I will interpolate, I will sample because that's what
that's what people were in a nostalgia Like nostalgia is
the hottest.

Speaker 4 (01:34:20):
Commodity, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:34:22):
Sequels and enfranchises and and samples are like in like
that's what sells original movies, original music, original ideas don't
fucking sell anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
And it's sad.

Speaker 5 (01:34:41):
But I don't think that there's even like a market
for people who want like Boots Riley. I love because
Boots Riley is a director who just said I love Booster.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
You know where he comes from. He's a bass player.

Speaker 4 (01:34:53):
But the group, the Coup, the Coop. Okay, yeah, he's
he's a basic player.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
Right, it's a rapper. Let me take a shot on that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:04):
I'm thinking of Boots Riley.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
No way, I'm thinking of Boots the guitar. He said,
you started sucking me up all of a sudden. Again
what he was doing Riley, He's a rapper. He's talking
about the director. The director. He comes from the coop.

Speaker 5 (01:35:19):
He comes from the coop, and I love his mind
because he's given us, Like you know, I am a virgo.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
I love Booster.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
I'm a virgo. Yeah yeah, his show you need to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
It, but he's giving us a movie.

Speaker 7 (01:35:35):
Check out his music. You're gonna be mind blowing. From
the group that he comes from to what he's doing now.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
He's an ill artist.

Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
But when you think.

Speaker 5 (01:35:43):
About how little we can say, oh, this person made
an original.

Speaker 4 (01:35:48):
That's why Centers was so crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:35:49):
Well, Ryan Coogler, like big up, Ryan Google shout out
Ryan Coogler for making an original movie in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
That him and Michael Jordan is doing. Man, they are
the modern day.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
Like yeah they are gel like that ship is crazy, like.

Speaker 5 (01:36:12):
Really but but back then, but but now it's so
much harder, Like do you don't know how hard it
is to have the success that Center's head?

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
Where you happy you're saying, you're saying that it's harder now.

Speaker 5 (01:36:23):
Now to sell an original film. Okay, okay, I saw
it twice. I have friends who saw multiple times. It's like,
see Centers again, bitch, Like, that's not easy to do.
Like I feel like, what's his name?

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
Get out? Uh? Get out?

Speaker 4 (01:36:44):
I hate that you said, Kemp pill Please.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
Get what I said. Kemp is a showy Jordan Jordan's hill.

Speaker 5 (01:36:56):
There's like very few people who are like creating original
he's doing. But it's the same with music, there's very little.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
We just got Marlon Wayne's movie. Did you see that?

Speaker 5 (01:37:07):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
Him? Yeah, that he produced it.

Speaker 4 (01:37:10):
I don't think he directed that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
I thought I was like, I was watching this, like,
where is the comedy at.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
Yeah, he didn't direct it, but he Monkey Pop produced.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
Was gross. I was like he doesn't do comedy movies.

Speaker 12 (01:37:21):
That's not I was about because Marlon's on it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
Okay, they got me.

Speaker 7 (01:37:28):
No, but have you some of the best dramatic actors
are comedians.

Speaker 4 (01:37:33):
I didn't know Jim Carrey.

Speaker 5 (01:37:34):
Have you seen recordem of a Dream markin Williams Marlon
went crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
Yeah, that's he went great, Like we got Marlin coming.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
I don't think we give him enough credit for that. No,
he's a method actor.

Speaker 5 (01:37:46):
He Marlin's an actor actor like real, go watch scary
movies sex June fifth and stream host and get my album.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
But anyway.

Speaker 12 (01:37:59):
More yeah, yeah, yeah, too much fun. All right, here
we go Black Thought or Andred three thousand. That pause
that's hard with me.

Speaker 5 (01:38:15):
Pause is crazy. I think that Black Thought is like

(01:38:39):
consistently great and I and I think that he is.
I think he deserves more and more and more appreciation
every day. And I think he's an incredible rapper and
a great soul and important to the history and into
the culture.

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
I have to go with Andre three thousand because.

Speaker 5 (01:39:02):
He is.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
Prince level, like.

Speaker 5 (01:39:09):
What the fuck like changed the conversation around what it
means to be a black man in hip hop.

Speaker 4 (01:39:16):
Especially from Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
Wearing overalls.

Speaker 4 (01:39:19):
Well, no, he just a country boy.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
Yeah. He took that country boy shit and was just
like took it all away. And he's just so creative,
Like you know.

Speaker 5 (01:39:29):
The funniest thing about him is when he wrote a verse,
I can't remember whose song it was on, either the
J Cole or it was somebody or a Frank Ocean,
and he was like, I can't I was I was
a pauw when I realized that people had ghostwriters.

Speaker 4 (01:39:42):
And he said this like recently in the last ten years.
He was like, I was a Paul when I heard
the Niagara and I.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
Was like, oh, poor like Andre, like poor baby, Like
he was like, wait, y'all got people writing this for
you with you. I'm doing this all by myself.

Speaker 5 (01:39:57):
And that was his angle, and I was like, damn, bro,
you did this by yourself. That's crazy. Like I don't
he raps, he raps. It's so musical that it feels
like he's he's got a percussive melodic like a piano.

(01:40:17):
Like one of the few percussive melodic instruments are guitar
and piano, right, because there's strings and there's like melody
and you can beat on it like you can beat
on a guitar, you can bang on the piano, and
he's got that kind of sensibility. And I don't think

(01:40:38):
that we understand how incredible he is. And I think
the best thing about him is that he knows we
want him, and he refuses. He refuses to give us him.
He's he refuses and he knows we want him. But
I think he also is so smart that he knows
the landscape of hip hop and the land escape of

(01:41:00):
culture and the landscape of music in the industry, and
he knows, oh, nothing will ever be good enough for you, niggas,
so I'm not giving.

Speaker 2 (01:41:08):
It to you. And he doesn't get I agree with
you nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
And I think that he's remember Erica was, I'm an artist.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
I'm sensitent about my ship. I think he he's like.

Speaker 5 (01:41:17):
No, I'm not going to give you this so that
you can turn it into whatever you want and talk
about it however you want and and mistreated.

Speaker 4 (01:41:25):
It's too precious and I respect.

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
It so much. And the fact that he pivoted and
made a.

Speaker 4 (01:41:30):
Flu album was because when he was walking.

Speaker 5 (01:41:33):
Around like Vibes, he was going around and this was
years earlier. He was like I saw, I saw, and
it was like one of those.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
It was like a wooden long fire, and I love
whatever you're doing. Whatever was Gemini is will And so I.

Speaker 5 (01:42:01):
Had a song that I sent him that had flute
on it, and I was like, can you play flute
on this?

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
He can?

Speaker 4 (01:42:08):
I tell this story. It's very embarrassing to me, but
it's fine.

Speaker 5 (01:42:12):
On my last album, I sent him a record and
there was like a whole flute, like a two minute
flue outro, and I was like, I just want Andre
to play flute on this, and he respectfully declined. Like
I got his number. Everything we connected, We texted and
I sent to him. He was like, oh no, like
he respectfully declines, and I was like, wait, what does
this mean? Like is the song bad? I cut the

(01:42:33):
song from my album. It never came out, But that
being said, when he dropped his Flu album a few
years later, I was like, oh my god, like we
was on the same vibe.

Speaker 4 (01:42:45):
Because I didn't know.

Speaker 5 (01:42:45):
He was know that I sent him the I didn't
know he was a flute album and then he was
like nah. So a part of me was like maybe
he didn't like the song, But another part of me
was like maybe he was like, I'm not doing enough.
Come out and I was like, okay, I respect that. However,
that is my Andre three thousand story. And now every
time I see him, I'm afraid, you know what I'm saying,

(01:43:06):
because how you doing? Brother?

Speaker 4 (01:43:08):
God bless you?

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
And I can't.

Speaker 4 (01:43:10):
Like you all got rejected by them.

Speaker 5 (01:43:12):
But.

Speaker 4 (01:43:14):
I love him so much.

Speaker 5 (01:43:16):
I know I just put myself out there if this
goes on your show.

Speaker 2 (01:43:19):
So we got what we got.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
I got you, brother, I got you, Please, you got
you got one more, well the last one, and they
were usually get back to the interview, but I understand
you got to go, and I respect that. So loyalty
or respect.

Speaker 4 (01:43:38):
Whoa, whoa, hmmm.

Speaker 5 (01:43:49):
I don't want no disrespectful person being loyal to me.
I think that I've had that experience in the past.
I've had people who were like loyal to me who
were extremely disrespectful, and it doesn't end well. It ends
in being mused and abused and I'm vilified. And so

(01:44:13):
I would rather have somebody respect me than be loyal
to me, because loyalty can be fake, but respect is
earned and real.

Speaker 13 (01:44:22):
Yeah, that's taking a show for that, and and before
we get about here, I just want to think a
new album, my album, bitch.

Speaker 4 (01:44:35):
I'm sweating under my pits, im.

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
I would like to I would like to.

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
Let let's talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:44:40):
That before we get up, because we talked about it,
but we didn't talk about it like for you to
you know, you know this.

Speaker 5 (01:44:47):
Album, you know, when it comes to like albums these days, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
Family, family job. I'm going to go do this a
little court illustrated, dang respect because you still got to
take pictures in I want to respect. I'm a killer
real quick.

Speaker 5 (01:45:08):
It's a little it's a little in and out, it's
a little back.

Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
But this new album, what does the fans expect?

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
Is there something new that you did on this album?
Is there? Like? Yeah, you know, and by the time this.

Speaker 1 (01:45:23):
Drops, this will be when your album, Yes, the album bitch,
the album will be I.

Speaker 5 (01:45:28):
Think that, I like, in the true nature of like
being a musician and an artist, you just get better
and better, right, Like yeah, I believe that, you know,
I think pop depreciates with time where you're like, oh, okay,
you know this person can't make this kind of pop
music anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:45:43):
But you consider yourself pop.

Speaker 5 (01:45:45):
I was pop at one point and now I am
a diva.

Speaker 4 (01:45:48):
I've graduated.

Speaker 5 (01:45:50):
So for me and my diva era, I have allowed
myself to create the music that I wanted to make.

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
This album, I.

Speaker 5 (01:45:58):
Think gives you a little bit everything, like I'm I'm
giving you something for the summer.

Speaker 2 (01:46:03):
We got sexy ladies featureing UCB like go.

Speaker 5 (01:46:06):
Go DC in the most building like it's going up,
like and on the internet right now, people are all
fucking with it like it's a beautiful thing. I've got
records that I get to like express myself and and
tell you know, the darker size and the things that
have happened to me, and talk some real like truth
to power. I have some classic Lizzo records like Happy

(01:46:28):
to Be where there's people who like, can you just
get back into your eighties like funk Back. I'm like, yeah,
go listen to that girl on my album. Like I've
got a little bit of everything. You want rap, lizzle, rap, Lizzles.
There you want like rock and roll, Lizto, she Stole
My Man is on there? You want Jerome because I
love you Lizzo. Whose hair is this?

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:46:46):
Like I have a little bit of everything and all
that and a bag of chips, and I just think
it's like, so, I had an album, Love and Real
Life that I was gonna drop last year, and there
are some records on that album that I felt like
were too selfish, Like it was like a song about
my dog who passed away on there, and it was selfish,

(01:47:07):
and I sampled her and I was like, and I
cry every time I listened to it. And I was like,
I don't know if this should go on this album
right now, because I'm in the time of my life
where I need to remind people, like it's not about
proving myself, it's about reminding people who the fuck I
am and what the fuck I do. And I was like,
let me just give a banger banger, banger, banger banger.
So it's twelve tracks of straight the best of me.

Speaker 2 (01:47:31):
Pits, no no album cuts.

Speaker 4 (01:47:35):
You're saying I'm a.

Speaker 5 (01:47:36):
Hit maker, Okay, I don't know. I don't know that,
but you know, a hit in twenty twenty six is different.
It's not the same definition even in twenty twenty two.
So what I have right now, I think it's great
music and I want people to actually enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
I think we're too caught up in numbers.

Speaker 4 (01:47:58):
Like you know, I've seen a.

Speaker 5 (01:47:59):
Lot of my temporaries, a lot of my peers drop music,
and because it didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:48:05):
Sell a certain amount of numbers, people were counting out.

Speaker 5 (01:48:08):
Yeah, people will be like, why it's not good because
the Internet says it's not good. It's like, bro, like,
listen to the fucking music and decide for yourself if
it's good or not. Like, don't look at the numbers
and decide if it's good or not. Like, it's about
just enjoying things again. And I really hope we get
back to that point where we can actually enjoy things
and stop acting like the fucking label. Like I feel

(01:48:28):
like fans fans are acting like the label, like what
are you doing that for it? I get it you
want to support your your faith. But it's like, but,
but relax because you're missing out right now. And I'm
not even speaking for myself because I haven't dropped out.
I'm thinking about all the other albums i've seen drops.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
It's like, just enjoy it is good.

Speaker 4 (01:48:49):
It's good.

Speaker 5 (01:48:50):
And I think that actually we're in a surplus of
really good music right now. Like I feel like all
the biggest artists in the world minus Beyonce and Rihanna,
have dropped albums in the last year and a half
like they do.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
Only yeah, there's a lot of good music. Are kidding
a lot?

Speaker 5 (01:49:09):
Bruno dropped the album, Lady Gaga dropped the album. Travis
Scott dropped the album. The Weekend dropped the album. Hey
drop the album, Chris Brown dropped the album, like Lottle
just dropped the album.

Speaker 4 (01:49:22):
Cardi dropped the album.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
I mean I.

Speaker 5 (01:49:25):
Could keep going, like, who hasn't dropped the album?

Speaker 7 (01:49:34):
Next time you do your your session with Sad Guru,
invite the drink chance we can hang out with you.

Speaker 5 (01:49:40):
Why why everybody coming up to me asking me, like,
when's the next time you're gonna be with Like sins
A dropped the album, Kendrick dropped the album. Okay, sorry,
I could just keep going, Wait, y'all like Sagoo like that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
I mean, I just seen it. I'm like that looks crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:49:53):
It was a vibe. I didn't know what I was
getting into. I was like, yeah, y'all. I was like, young,
come to my house and we.

Speaker 2 (01:49:59):
Can We'll bring to mamajuana And I think that's that's
spiritual nobody like that deserves a.

Speaker 5 (01:50:04):
Shot no alcohol.

Speaker 2 (01:50:06):
You notice it's not an alcohol, it is mamajuna.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
What is that Just we'll just we'll just say it's
not alcohol, it's it's spiritual VIDs.

Speaker 8 (01:50:17):
He's like, Ross, this is so disrespectful to me. So
we want to thank you because we.

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
Know you got to go.

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
We see your people they are they're they're protecting you
and on top of it, and that's what I respect that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:37):
So but we want to let.

Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
You know, you know how much you you have done
for hip hop, how much that we are appreciative, and
how much you deserve your flowers. We really really really
really want this album to be successful. We really want
like we really I really appreciate your soul and your spirit,
like like like like.

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
You are one of a kind.

Speaker 1 (01:51:00):
And me, I'm not I'm not gonna let this not
not you not know that like this is this this,
this was this.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
Was dopeks So I know. So we're gonna we're gonna
take a couple of take this lesson.

Speaker 14 (01:51:14):
I'm taking already out the albums out go give that mother.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
Because we buy it on Spotify, Apple, I Tune, youtubes,
you looms, We buy, We buy. Yeah, it's gonna take a.

Speaker 7 (01:51:41):
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