#Throwback Episode - w/ Lil’ Cease | (Ep.92) - Drink Champs

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 1 (00:49):
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Speaker 2 (00:55):
New Years here right now.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
When you talk Ah the greatest rapper alive in hip hop.
This guy was the closest person too. I always wanted
to ask him the little seas cripple him. He said
that in the rhyme. I've seen that the other day,
he said, crippled me. You was a part of a
legendary group. Junior Mafia also one of the all time

(01:20):
best female mcs ever was close to her as well
as well. You've been a part of the bad boy movement.
But Julia mafia movement. You've been a part of this
hip hop thing for so long. Right now, we got
a big up little Seeds in the motherfucking building. That
was one of my favorites.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
He said to pickle me to little Seas. Crippled me
to little Seas, crippled me. What happened?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
He was in a car accident, aident, okay, because you.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Was like the drive I not heard big never.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Drove, never drove, okay, So what happened?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
He was We had got arrested day before that. Let's
make a noise a little. He's a big get.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Arrested downtown Brooklyn for some bud and they took our truck.
When we got the truck back that that day. Truck, yeah, Alexis,
we got it back. The ship didn't work, so they
had to ship the ship to the car dealership. We
went there the next morning to pick up a loan
this car there was a Lumina van. Yeah, we we
traded an a Lexus car for aluminum van. And I
was like, shouldn't get Alexis like, he was like, now

(02:24):
we're gonna ride low. Let's just take this drop and
I jumped in that ship and were driving around this
little this little fork, and the ship just sped out
of control. I ran into a rail.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Wow, how old were you at that?

Speaker 4 (02:34):
About sixteen?

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Was already driving.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
I was already driving license else driving dirty. K Rose
would answer, yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's what happened. And
he sucked up his leg. I had to get these
gold fronts to replace two joints that was sucked up.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
That's why he had to put that in the rhyme.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
And uh always had the King too and the station.
When he said that rhyme, was that the first time
you heard that rhyme?

Speaker 4 (03:03):
I heard the song? He already killed me. I had
to accept that one though. I mean, I took one
for the team.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Right so now also right, Uh?

Speaker 2 (03:16):
I wanted to ask this question this this comes ya
he read?

Speaker 1 (03:21):
I believe he said, what were Biggies plans for the
Commission album with Jay? Who else was supposed to be
in that group? What label was supposed to be on,
and who was.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Supposed to be in the commission Commission.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
He didn't have no label idea for it yet, so
he ain't know what label he was going to do
it on. It probably gonna be on undeas that his label.
He's probably going to do it on there, depending on
probably what Jay was gonna do. But the commission was me,
Jay Z, Charlie Baltimore Big, and uh.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
He was just play like the boss of it.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
But that was his way like pushing Charlie out. He
was gonna push Charlie through the through the commission ship.
So that's how he was gonna break that down.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I actually spoke to on the other day and it
was crazy because un said to me, he said, you
know what's a crazy ship?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Nor nobody's never interviewed him about.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Big like he was his business parigner and people did
this is so you know, you know, I was doing
a drink chance.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
He's like he had to.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Sit there and just think about it and was like, Yo,
you know what, nobody never really asks me about Big
because I guess what happened after Big because Cam was
supposed to be signed to you guys this, yeah, because
Cam was actually.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
BIGS artist and yes, yes, this.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Would be my favorite even tell you I'll take.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
You to I was so scared.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
I was so scared of Big because that's all I
listened to Jill.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I was listening to jail so I seen him in from.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
The Hot ninety seven and he was like, yo, he
asked up and he asked to rhyme and that.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Was ship own dad r.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
And he was like, yo, I'm making you Julio Mafiel
tomorrow word is.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
And I was so hated.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
I was like, I'm like, yo, he was trying.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
He was trying to get this one. She was always Yeah,
she used to always put us, put us on your ship.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
You know what the crazy ship was when Big, when
Big in the movie, when BIG's making these last phone calls,
the crazy ship was Big had called me and he
played me too or and why And I was like,
he called you?

Speaker 2 (05:29):
He called me and was like, yo, be our favorite records. Man,
I'm fucking with this and at the time too or
why it is not? I saw I'm figgure.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
And I totally didn't put two and two together that
now she was a bad way to do something.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
So I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
So you just imagine that like getting that call and
I'm worried about Yo, my shit is buot leg It's
over over me.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
But so now see you Big, your whole childhood, So
did you it was he always the best.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Wrap or you knew you knew he was he was
nice back then. I just knew from the rip he
was dope, you know what I'm saying. You know what
I mean, Like, we didn't think he was gonna be
to the level of what it is now, but what
he became even when he was like when he was out,
you know what I mean, we didn't think it was that.
But he was nice and he was to come through.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
The looking for the difference between five years, so he
the big brother.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah, when he was twenty, I was fifteen years old,
you know what I'm saying, running around. He took me
out the streets since I was eleven, Wow, God damn it.
You know, since I was like five six years old
and I was in public school, see him on Fulton
Street and then number five years I was on that
same strip trying to hustle and do all that ship,
and he seemed that ship wasn't in me, Like, nigga,

(06:41):
that ain't you Just the fuck out of here now
I'm gonna take Yeah, it took me out, took me
out of that, took me out of his own a set.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
And you know what's funny, A lot of people give
jay Z credit for, like, you know, putting like a
lot of his friends on, but a lot of people don't.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Really realize that Big did that first.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
You came from that camp Camron, Little Seeds, all Baltimore
off a little j indeed being a Jacob.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Record doing some ship he got and all that big.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
He had a club in Atlanta, he was doing Jake
ab out there doing big Ship and all that came
from just be ill getting put on. Shut up for
all them pipelines for anybody to do.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
What's that saying?

Speaker 1 (07:20):
From the beginning was like I'm gonna get on and
then because then you had you.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Had that album? What's that album? That's that was like
one of the most slept on albums in the world.
Bro appreciate. Why do you think people slept on that album?

Speaker 4 (07:32):
I just think Lanta didn't push it. I don't think
they push it the right way, you know what I'm saying.
And the money that we had that they gave us,
we used it wrong, going expensive thousand dollars, eight thousand
dollars videos and once you do that first video don't work,
they don't want to shoot no more videos. They're like, nah,
let's see what happened. Another two weeks, another month, ship
don't move and they just kind of just let it go,
you know what I mean. But as long as people
liked it and accepted it, I was cool with that,

(07:55):
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
And I always wanted to ask that crush on you video, right,
that was like the first time we seeing a female
changed wigs.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Like did you like? She was like you? It's like
what was was was that something.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
That y'all was like, this is dope or was you
like because you know, sometimes you be skeptic or something
didn't work, you'd be like, yeah, oh I knew it
all on on, but you.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Know this is a risk us that's little niggasse. We
just said around and just let that was un That
was all unshipped. They gave under Shot like to do
the partnership with unders and only the one that was
doing the ideas for the videos. Did all our videos
get money? Players anthem on you? We just we just
did what the dude, Yeah, he directed all those videos.
That was that was that was his way in the business,

(08:38):

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Experience nothing straight.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Then it came straight from the streets. Straight trapping, went
from hustling and went behind the camera like y'all got
some ideas, and they trusted them, and all them ships
just happened to pop and they and they rock fords.
We didn't say no. We just played opposition. When you
want me to go, go here, go here, and just
so happened the ship actually the ship blew up, you
know what I'm saying. And that was all within us.
That was all the fam team. We was like Big.

(09:03):
We was like Big Guinea. We used his creation. He
was learning all that ship from Puff and was like, no,
I ain't taking junior Manfia the Puff. Let me this
is gonna be my own thing. Let me see if
I could learn what I learned from him.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Let me interesting anybody like you didn't sign the bad Boy.
They tried to even at that time he was trying
to spread rumors like Big, but I always seem Big.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Cool with He just always been like a second family though.
You know that was Big that was created us doing
the whole nother pipeline. Everything he learned from Puff, he
kind of tested it with us, and the ship works.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
What do you think? What do you think Bi's next
move would have been?

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Like like because like, because like he was doing things monumental.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
So what was his next move would have been had
he been on His whole thing was the music.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
That's all that. Nigga was a fan of music. His
next thing was Kim and another Junior Mafia project. He
wanted to do the Commission ship. He was. He was
gonna sign Cam he was, you know he was. This
ship was about music. He wanted to set up his
own inmparty. That was a big old thing, Like I
just want to give it a bunch of nice niggas
and put some ship together and just let it run
from there. He wanted to do five albums and retire.
He's gonna write my albums after that. I'm just sure

(10:13):
write a bunch of little seas albums.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
You gotta let everybody.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
He didn't need my whole life, so easy for him
to write for me. And I got built into being
that ship. I didn't sit back. I didn't want to
be a rapper. I won ten years old, eleven years
old to my I'm ready to spin, I'm ready to
get busy. I love the music. I love listening to it.
You know that was my thing. But I never thought
about rapping. It was just a thing for him, like
all right, this little nigga, he he he got the wave,
he know what to do.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
He can before you even knew it, he told you
you're gonna be rhymman.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
I write your album? All right?

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Cool?

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Say no more? Yeah you want me to do because
I was rocking with him, doing the hype man stuff
with him. So we'll do like colleges and ship like that.
And he's looking crazy. He was watching that like, Okay,
only thing I need to do is write him some
a rounds. You know what I'm saying, Write some little
cooler rhys. He won't to be this little cool kid
with the napst Tommy hill Finger, did you tell me?
Don't want no niggas to like just all bitch?

Speaker 2 (11:06):
That's why you was on the hips.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Wan crush on you.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, that was my creation atte because people don't make
my album.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
It wasn't been so straight like bare wow. Puppy Love.
That was the name my album, Puppy Love for real
cool A bunch of crushes.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Now.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
When he died, I can't. My whole ship was like
the wonderful world of Season Leo. That was me with
the Kingo my ass with the bitches hands covered with me.
That was LEO idea, like, all right, I need I
need to make a different kind of approach.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
To my ship now the movie, I heard Little Kim
express some feelings that she thought it wasn't accurate or something.
Then I heard people speak on the movie and they say,
why I see so young in the movie. But I
heard you address that and say a lot of people
don't know he was fifteen sixteen at that time, so
that's that character.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
But how did you feel it was the movie accurate
to you?

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Nah, not all of it, you know what I mean,
sixty percent of the movie. You ain't gonna never be
able to get a hundred percent of the real movie.
It's just some things you're just gonna would be able
to say and put out there.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
People got to understand what was something you you wish
they didn't put it in there, Like that wasn't accurate.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Or that was accurate that you didn't want in there.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
I mean a lot it wasn't about what wasn't accurate
in the movie, you know what I mean? They ain't
feel like it ain't It ain't like they put a
lot of fake shit in it. It's just that a
lot of the shit they didn't put in it, and
he just added little ship to some parts that was real,

Speaker 2 (12:20):
So it was kind of like basically real.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
It was just more of a outside outside shit the
big like you know, his mom shot that movie. She
wanted to show people just how big was outside of
the music more or less.

Speaker 7 (12:30):
But just had to.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
You had to put some monumental moments sitting there that
people already know about. You know about the Tupac shit,
you know what I'm saying. You know about the East
Coast and West Coast be shit like that you can't
straight away from. You got to put in there. His
moms didn't want none of that in there. She straight
just wanted to be about her son outside of the music.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
You get to see the Tupac movie yet? Nah?

Speaker 1 (12:46):
I want to see it though, Yeah, because I was
something very interesting going on in the game right now
for flexis taken the approach you actually said on the
podcast and not the podcast.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Becuse me live. What did you say exactly? Because now
your name is in this Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
So what happened was he was he was talking about
the whole incident, and he wanted to know if studio
across studio. He wanted to know if if Pop shot
himself resistant. I just but he asked me, I was there,
and I just said that from what I know, I
never said it was truthful. Of is the fact I
wasn't there with you when that situation happened. I was
coming downstairs in the elevator, and I just stated that

(13:25):
and just that one little line I said when I said,
from what I know, you wrote it on blast night.
I just got next to my ship, got my ship real,
But I'm thinking it was just some light ship like that.
People people been knew about this. I'm not talking about
this ship plenty of times. Nobody never threw.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
It's been everybody. What's he did not shoot himself five times?
From what from what has heard on the streets through
the birds and birds, they said that he stepped on
I guess he tried to grab and he was pulling out.
So when they heard the shot, that's how they shot him.
Because they were reacting. They were thinking, you know what
I'm saying that they did. They were thinking he was

(14:07):
shooting that and s shot first.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
That's the room.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
And that's what everything. You know what I'm saying. So
that's what happened, and people kind of took it like
we was you know, they was cracking jokes. So I
was in. I was in with that now. I just
answered the question that was it and then my name
got thrown up in that ship. But get this part
of the industry ship with social media, now, you guys
just understand, that's just what it is.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
You know, you know who they had, you know, you know,
to kill social media though, Pun and Biggie them because
their niggas personalities was al like like like most fat
niggas got good personality. I think would have been ahole
centric on on social media.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
I think that would have been terrorized people. How was
how was the transition?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Because you knew pop, you knew Pop and Big when
they were cool, Like even in the movie it's like
you see Big and you say, yo, Pock is in
in the joint and that was all along, Like, so
how was that to see that transition?

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Because I mean it was it was fucked up because
the Big really had genuine love for him, and we
all know he had genuine love for Big too. Let
me let me let you know something, if something, if
something wanted, if something wanted to happen, it could have happened,

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Nothing could have stopped that though we was.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
We were seeing each other in plenty of places, and
if something could have happened, it was.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
So you're saying, well, whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa. You're saying,
as these records is out, y'all were seeing.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Each other a few times and the Soul Train Awards
when they something could have happened at that time if
they wanted to. Yeah, situations happened before, but it just
never went there. And I just think he did he
didn't really want that. I just think he had a
lot of people behind him pushing him, and it was
vice versa. You know, you had people and not here
too negative enough to you know what I'm saying. But
they never would have did nothing to each other because genuinely,

(15:48):
he knew Big had love for him, you know what
I'm saying. And Big new he had love for him,
he would he. I just think he was just going
with a situation, know what I mean. You got niggas
that just veiled you out of jail, and you owe
your loyalty to that he ain't do nothing wrong by that,
you know, I mean to it took you out of
a situation. And they both died the same way. That
shit is like so crazy, like six months apart, the
same kind of situation. The album's mcavelly died. All that

(16:13):
ship is just like a whole weird thing. And I
was just thinking it was just that's just how it
was meant to be. Though you can't change it. You
can't like do the what ifs, And it was just fun.
They both got caught up in a bad situation.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
People always I always wish they had passed it up
because I think that would have been and it was.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
They were strong because we did a record together for
case Lad called Very the Hatchet I did with the Outlaws,
And you know, it took us fifteen years for us
to sit down and talk about niggas. You know what
I'm saying, Like, we ain't like each other for fifteen years,
and none of us never even met each other or
knew each other nothing. And one day we spoke through
a female one day talking to this chicken. She must
have said my name real loud and young know we're heard.

(16:52):
It grabbed the phone from her. Yoh, this real aggressive,
and I'm just like this young outlaws, like I heard you,
what's up? I heard you? What's good? And we sat
there and we talked for about two hours. We got
a chance to really speak on ship. He ain't know
a lot of ship that was going on on our side.

Speaker 8 (17:11):
I know this.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
And we spoke and then he came to New York
one damn. We got up to set down and kicked it. Then,
my niggas to this day he said, yo, when when
Uh Pop was going to Vegas before that, he was like, yo,
when he come back from Vegas, he was gonna tell
that ship with bed Wow, damn wow, you know what
I mean. So that ship was gonna get deaded, you know,
I mean eventually, you know what I mean. It was
gonna get squashed. He really knew what happened. He knew
what was going on. He knew Big didn't have nothing
to do with that. He knew we didn't have nothing

(17:33):
to do with that. I just think he was just
caught up in a situation and it was vice versa
two things that he didn't change it. They was young.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
We don't realize how young they were. Dog like you
know when it's forties making these type of mistakes.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Be fucking upga we kids. I look at it now
because I'm over thirty.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
I'm over thirty years old.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I'm almost forty, So I look at it.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
I look at it now like damn, these niggas actually babies. Dog,
We didn't. Niggas ain't know.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
No better, and we didn't sure. We didn't go and
let me take back to let me tell you. Let
me tell you something.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
When we dropped l A l A, I stepped up
too big and I told him that and he said,
he said, Yo, I don't want to be I don't
want that record to come out because what they accusing
me for, No, I ain't do so I gotta like
he always knew to.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Take the high roll like it was ill he was.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
He'll tell you like, nah, dog, ain't the way. But
you know, to each his own, you want to do that,
you know, do that. We couldn't stop them from doing that,
but we was loving them for doing it, you know
what I'm saying. Like they was like, man, we stepped
up to the plate. But it's like, yo, doo, let's
not we don't want to do that. Were trying to
get some money, you know, like you know that's how
be our ship was though, were trying to get money.
We ain't in this ship for that. And if you're
gonna beat beef, don't make it hot. You're gonna make
it hot. You make a reverence about it. You're gonna

(18:40):
do some real ship, don't you responding? Nigga?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Your reaction to nothing?

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Man, Big, ain't say nothing. You don't know what's gonna
happen when you seen. I ain't saying nothing, no response
you big, or cut you off? You responding anything? You
make a record, don't call me no more. Don't come
to my.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Correct nigga that you're done finish. We don't do that now.
For the record, they the is Who Shot YOUA was
recorded way.

Speaker 9 (19:03):
Before that as a vinyl like like yeah, it didn't
make sense before any two.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
That's supposed to have been for Mary J. Album for
her that's supposed ben intro to her first album, Get
the Funk Out?

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Who Shots You My Life.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Is supposed been the second album intro to the second
album It was too hard.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
For it took it was you kids in the building.
You know, we gotta put you over there. You gotta
put you.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Over there against I've been hanging out with my man
for about a week serious and you go to the
gym too every day.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Got up.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
He don't play those games with drink with you. So
you said, who shot You?

Speaker 10 (19:39):
Was done?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Was done for what?

Speaker 1 (19:40):
That was?

Speaker 2 (19:41):
For Mary j BLI.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
That was an intro to her second album intro and
it was it was Keith, Keith Murray, LL cool J
and Big on it.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Who Shot You? Yeah, that's the original Keith Murray l
originally was Keith Murray.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
And b I and it was from Mary. It was
the intro that Mary My Life Out. I never heard
of it, and it was like, this is too hard,
this is too hard to be to start off an
R and B album. And once they scratched it be
I was like, give me the record with it and
b I added the second verse to it and took it.
It was a B side record and put it on
the B side to which what Big pop up? One
more chance? It was on and we just ran with that.

(20:17):
Record was way before that, but it did.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Feel like Big was coming.

Speaker 6 (20:21):
At It's a coincidence that.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
At that time I noticed like that, why would people
think that when they know they already heard this record before,
because that was just Big Fruce.

Speaker 11 (20:34):
Versus generation stupid. Now they've been stupid. I'm like that,
why y'all, Why would y'all think that? But I understand
just from the situation and that time, I knew how
it was, but we did, you know, Big then sweated though,
Big New, Big New what it was?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Big New?

Speaker 4 (20:49):
That's you know, he's like, man, he know that song
and about you know that song was done before that,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (20:53):
So big that when Big is on stage and they
kind of boring them and.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Oh that was real. That was Yeah, he was old that.
We was in Safframento and Shiplemento.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
It was a bunch of like West Coast artists booked.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
On that show. Not you for this be legitias.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
They put one barrels big Love out there.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
You know, we didn't know about this interview, Uh this
interview that Bigger Post did with this dude from Toronto.
He put a bunch of ship and saying Big with
this wild West Coast artists and Ship and uh, I
remember walking through that ship the Nigga nac ten bunk
me and ship. We're gonna walk through the spot like
the circus spots Se was sitting there. See what type
of bitches in there? Walked the one time I just
get the film, I turned out. I look back to

(21:36):
nigga Ma Tin like this screwing me? You know, I
look at Nigga Big motherfucker. So I was like, all right,
Big this ship. They don't feel like that.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
That love.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
When we got on stage, the niggas start throwing coins
at us and ship man, you'll have coins throwing that
you on stage and ships hurt my nigga.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
That shoot ship and Big got mad was like your
fuck that throwing who shot you?

Speaker 4 (22:02):
We gonta do who shots you? And when do who
shot you?

Speaker 12 (22:05):
On?

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Niggas start going nuts.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
They stopped throwing want they want that?

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yeah I did that ship.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I didn't want to do that, right listen, dog, we
see that replacement.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
You know, you give a look at.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Big requested it like like you shure me, but gang,
but it's crazy and.

Speaker 13 (22:26):
The funny way, it's crazy, but sometimes you gotta take those.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
It's just stand up.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
They just didn't want to feel like, you know, they
was getting to them where they was intimidating them, like
all right, fun y'all want to do that? Who shot
you eat enough like trying to hold that ship, like
who shot you? Who shot you? Throw it on and
you do that ship on that ship just changed the
whole momentiumum. Ship you got followed back to be Legit
followed us back to the hotel that day, and all

(22:52):
that ship man they so big, was trying to diss
the whole city. Some bullshits interview, somebody put out, but
then they squashed that ship right there. Big on the phone,
we eat forty and talk for talked about it, talking
about you know what that nigga here was like, yo, man,
let me know, y'all get to the town, you get
to their ports. Satan that when the nigga downstairs and
anything stayed in the hotel lot before it's to the
whole till the next morning took to the anything will rose.
You know.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
That's what we do here, get niggas.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Drunk imagining, gonna know bad I was, You know, I
was like.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Four episodes before we did this.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Up there.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
You got prepared for time.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
I ain't have any special today in my building. They
must have sent a fly that said there's no hot
water after a certain time. So my whole family gets
up takes a shower and they forget to tell me.
So I'm like, oh, I can't take this Chune. So
I had to go to the water.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
No, I can't do it.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
I'm doing them water.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
So I to check into the w real quick. That's
my wife birthday, to let me throw that out there.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
So I had tought on here, right, And I told Paul,
I asked him. I said, it seems like his smile
was fake after big past away, right, And to me,
outside of looking at his smile kind of got authentic

(24:14):
again when I see the fun that he's happening with
French Montana. For years, I've seen your smile. Was you know,
you lost it, homie, But now I see you back.
Was it getting into shape that make you feel better?

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, that that just put me in a whole difference.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
I'm about to say that, God damn it.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
You know, you know, all all just all that ship alone,
just getting you know what I mean, getting back, you know,
just getting back in that field of work. You know,
I didn't do that type of work for a while,
you know what I mean, for a minute, I was
just really just trying to figure the sh out, you know,
what I because that's how that's how important Big was
to me, my nigga. Like you said, I got thrown
into this ship as an artist that's a rapper. It's
like once Big, once b I died, I didn't really know.

(24:55):
I didn't really know what to do after that. I
think q Be is the one that helped me down
after that, you know what I mean. She's the one
that did everything Big what it did for.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Me, And we gotta fix that relationship. We got. We
gotta fix that. I'm putting this on the podcast.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
I've been going to be positive energy.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Of course it's very and you know, I got to
see Little Kim since I seen that situation put.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Up on your Yeah, because you know I was with Kiss.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
I thought, I've never met Little Chims. That's the first
thing she screamed.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
On We've been mad. I said, oh my mad. You
know what I'm saying, Like, you know, I got years.
I blaked out, Kim, you.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Know what I'm saying, Like for a little while, it
was great, you know what I'm saying, Like I know
I am, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
But yeah, so I really I was.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
You know, before we interview an artist, we always well
go through a playlist. So we had a playlist just
now and just hearing y'all two together, it's like if
and as a person like you know, we was opposed
at one point, I would like to throw that energy
in the air that I think that y'all should work
it out.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
I don't know what, what is it over you fixing?
Fix it?

Speaker 4 (26:00):
It's gonna get fixed. I gotta fix that. I mean
the major part she a, major part of the she Ad,
major part of that milestone with us one nigga know
what I mean. So it's only right we gotta do
it again and get our proper respect and our proper dudes.
It's only gonna get right if we do it together.
That's just how it is. Like you gotta do it
for b I too, my nigga. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
I said that the killing us right now?

Speaker 4 (26:19):
You know, right man, he's gonna make sure be good,
but he balking on us too at the same time, Like,
come on, man, I gotta get it right. And I
think in due time we're gonna get it together. How about.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Come on, you know what you signed up for.

Speaker 6 (26:34):
Me?

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Come on?

Speaker 2 (26:36):
How about the rock my nigga.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
That's what we's gonna be a big brother. I don't know,
gut her money l and all those big brothers, you
know what I mean. As far as the MOUSI I
mean we all that's all day, my nigga. Know we
still we grew up together. You know what I sho
is like you like you poem him in the lot
all day. You know we argue, fuss, but that's what
makes you that connection, that's what makes you feel like.

(27:00):
You know what I mean, we know each other aunties
and mamas and nieces and nephews and kids.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
After you got like ten years with a nigga, that's
your family.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Regardless if you're fucking it up with him or not,
you gotta make it work.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
It's not about to deal with somebody I know, then
have a new stranger and then try to figure out
I know what I'm dealing with.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
I know how to all right.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
I could fuck with my man on this, but fun
with him here because you know how to deal with
your people. I'm at that age and I'm at that
time in my life. I ain't trying to figure out nothing, Nuke.
I don't have a deal with what I got and.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
How just there about them trying to take down that
Biggie wall, that was awkward for me.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Let me just let me just cut you off. Let
me just say something. What I've been trying to do
is form a hip hop.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Union right.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
Now.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
What I mean now, what I mean hip hop union
is if C's gets sick, we come and we take
care of that.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Kiss gets sick, we come and take care of that.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
So that to me, that was a perfect hip hop
moment when they tried to take down b I g
the wall.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I felt like the hip hop union should have been
there and luckily and about the building. The worst case
scenario for sure, what area in Brooklyn is that that
isn't best style? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Wow, like right what you obviously the freestyle of Big
when he's doing the free seven, Yeah, it's right there
on that corner. Yeah, that's where DJ is from fifty
Grand his first DJ and ship he's from that corner
right there.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
They're not just seeing the nigga he was battling, yeah,
Supreme right.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
When they did that battle.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Battling and it's three.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Floors high, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Like that ship is like the buildings on that that
corner right it's right outside of the store. It is
the corner store.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Right there on the side of it is the building.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
This dude name I think you know his name was.
It's the gram Spreads off New York, the one that
the ship.

Speaker 2 (28:49):

Speaker 4 (28:49):
So once that ship came out, like the Brooklyn Nets
even t I you know what I mean, like people
came through. They won't go let that happen. We were
knock on his door every day. My dude, he did
the right but he just say, you know, I know
he was like I didn't know he ended.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Up doing trying to get some bread. Yeah whatever, that's
what he was.

Speaker 14 (29:08):
First once he was going on without there because he
knew somebody was bread was gonna be off.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
And look at the time he did it a big
birthday he did. You know what I'm saying, there's one
hundreds of people out there doing people going there. He
was going that more woman, just go out there, take pictures,
put canders down there, the bill crib to you know
what I'm saying, Right, No, you're trying to get that
check from right. Yeah, big birthday, big.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Big.

Speaker 15 (29:33):
My birthday is like a week at the big So
I always celebrate his birthday with this ship.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
On his birthday, his birthday came out straight in the
year he was born.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Came out number number.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Wow, that's twenty one. Nineteen seventy came.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Came his birthday, the number one number birthday his born day.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
That's crazy, that's nuts.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
And because he because I don't play numbers, but I
wish I have played that day.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Damn I was damn Damn. I wish I had played
numbers that that would have been up. What's what's the best?

Speaker 4 (30:06):
What's the best era in hip hop? To you ever dog?
Come on.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Badly with the surround the covered.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
Ship?

Speaker 2 (30:26):
You know every push play this incredible?

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Just got a bad Playah, you're.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Plunging your ship.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
You got our plugging ship your hour? You see what
you let me see what you know? My nigga?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
What was you on the bad boy to Nah? Okay,
I did like about I did two shows. I just
did the two on Brooklyn.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
That was it.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Okay, didn't let me on that so so it was great.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
It looks it was go look now, what what is what?

Speaker 1 (30:52):
I'm not gonna bring the broom to both for both
of y'all. What is c's and kiss listening to are
you're not listening to?

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Oh my friends at the can't lie. Let me tell you,
let me, let me, let me take everybody.

Speaker 16 (31:08):
My friends.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
May get mad at me right now. I don't kill artist.
That's because that's this music sounds good. It's different. But
if you talk to if you ever, you gotta talk
to him. I never met him.

Speaker 17 (31:23):
He's dude, gotta go, y'all know he blows. He's rather
you're gonna talk to him.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
You're not gonna see you first, okay, And that's why
he's gonna like us. You when you speak to him,
you're gonna like him even more. You know, I told
I told you J John.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
I said that he won me over, like the music
off straight music because all my friends out thead.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Two times the worst is the worst one of the songs.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
With it.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Sec hung out, I said, Yo, dog, I'll with you
because I like that the music ship. I like who
you are as a person. Sometimes music is just entertainment
sometimes because you and everything you are.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Because if I that job, I never one. It's all different.
Are you when you go in the booth and create
what you create, that's yall. That's on you.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
But if I would have judged the person about how love,
then I would have never had Super Thug because Morel
dressed weird from the beginning.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
He's not.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
He's not He's not a you know he's been weird
like he's not. You know what I'm saying. By the way,
me and Pharrell, God you Got. It's probably my favorite
record I've ever made.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Of all times. He's because you got.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
You read them a different zones. You read him. I
told him, I said, listen, he played me against the record.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
I said, I gotta relax for real.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
I can't do gangst the records. I got them both.
Let's throw that out there. I still got they both.
But this is what I need.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
I need frighting and I'm happy to have a baby,
and I'm delivering it.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
I'm the one saying, push, you can do it. Keep coming.
That's a crazy marriage, coming down happy in front.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
It's crazy because you know what I needed a happy record,
my version, my version. So we finally got it. Twenty
years later. I've been trying to get to give me
a girl record forever. He has never gave me one.
He always wanted to keep you in the hood. He's
a foul maker. But now but now he's drinking red
wine and we are having a great time.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
And I also at the Roots Picnic recently. That great, y'all.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
You want to pick up the Roots My first, like
second or third time with a live band, you know.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
So a lot of people thought I forgot my words.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
I didn't forget my word's going a bunch faster, different
dj J, very different, yeah, DJ Yeah.

Speaker 8 (33:59):
Some people hit us on Instagram, They're like, just Charlotte Man,
I said, I for got my words.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
No, Charlot Man.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
I was like the bell with the bands and hold on,
take that from the top. Different.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
They gotta started over starting about the roots. They can
start over like they don't want to begin that. They
looked at me like nigg I.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Just performed with with them. I just did my first
I did my first live band.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Because I can fake what you're doing.

Speaker 6 (34:27):
I did.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
I went out I went on going to fake so beat.
I went out there love the Soul Beach Festival, out
there with Shure the Roots.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
When that came out, just enjoying the hustle that ship was.

Speaker 18 (34:38):
She was love.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
That's the first time I rock with a band. I
did all my different.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
You got to be at least a month rehearsal. I
wished to rehearsal. That's what happened.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
He rehearsed.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
I don't want to do it because they wanted to
give me a.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
No, but that's enjoying. I didn't have a I didn't
have at the ball Player.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
I never performed the Grammys. Uh, the Oscars don't know
who the fuck I am? Yeah, I deserve to go
to the Oscars.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Don't give a about that.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Cough my nigga, so seize me.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Actually, the best era of hip hop right it was
alive right now? Man, who's an artist?

Speaker 2 (35:29):
You think he would be working for.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
Kids out to that?

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Anybody ever you want to go with?

Speaker 4 (35:34):
I think he Hols.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 17 (35:42):
He was.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
I can't don't count.

Speaker 13 (35:48):
He don't count, that don't That's why I said the
new ones, he don't count.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
That was?

Speaker 6 (35:53):
That was.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
That was the only ones on the how many collaps
on the Locks Oude coch I was on to be
my album?

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Didn't you say? I wasn't to be? And they that
big with at y'all.

Speaker 17 (36:02):
Yeah, you'll see verse or what you'll see the first
it's actually the locks first feature with Big We never.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Met him, and I know what happened.

Speaker 17 (36:12):
Puff Winning told him some ship puff Winning. Y'all got
these niggas from young as the Dirty Army, sup Winning niggas.
They coming crazy, They coming for you. That's how he
came crazy.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
He came from the first line niggas talking, but he
came I don't know crazy. Go back and listen was coming.
He's coming coming. He could have actually broke out smith.

(36:50):
He could. He could. He could have went all wrong.
Tail between the legs, kiss and big that hold on.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Let me describe the situation home on. So y'all come
to the live and y'all look at each other.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
We didn't even see you see him.

Speaker 17 (37:11):
That's why Puffish found We never met by that after
ULLC was done.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Wow, it was like a big joke.

Speaker 17 (37:19):
Did he loved So that's probably why we we were
still good because once he met us, he's like, Yo,
nigga's nice.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
This that he ain't say, but I still have to
come at y'all, but you listen to it. He's coming.
He's trying to rip out next to the shreds for
our first joint. This is how you ship.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Niggas getting busy, you know, I mean, like the big scene,
mad competitive, these niggas, you know what else, A big
seem like I'm gonna tell you what, big team like
big people. If he was dope on the ground, he
was like he loved the underground. He was into him
and Meth that record, I can't.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
I don't know how that came up with that record.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Seems like they were going like and and at that
time Meth was considered the best because he had that
m A T.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
H O. D.

Speaker 19 (38:15):
Man.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
He was cooking, he was, he was, he was, he
was ripping everything.

Speaker 20 (38:20):
Meth was that math name was evy everywhere and to
be all came with him in old dirty.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
I still can't say who won that. I still different
styles too.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
And give it up. You got like, no, you got me?

Speaker 2 (38:40):
He said that j Jo, he said, Jay got im
booking finance. I got to disagree.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
I said that I got this. I told you he wasn't.
He's bugging dog. See, I didn't understand j in the beginning.
He was using all them big words and that school
ninth grade, my nigga, I didn't know all that scientificalpical
and all that.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
I understand that.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
I understand the color ship direct to the point and
b I was more like a direct.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
But who would it be? He bodied something on and Philly.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
He never had oh Man.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Come out events he said. He said a man like
somebody should have told him, no, Big, it's still work.
Still killed him. That was hurt from getting.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
That.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Speaking his defense, he is a lawyer. He's a way
rapping and when want helped him up, turned into a
lawyer's bigger sue you.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
That's what I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Always just like music's still.

Speaker 21 (39:50):
Sorry, I'm sorry like that that Big had no He
even destroyed Shock, but he's found Come on, man, he
destroyed He said Shock, you get it too.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
That was the only record with him and Nas on it.

Speaker 17 (40:05):
One of those verses was for sho shod verses that
he said was for Shock.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
I couldn't say.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
He couldn't say basketball, politics, your dog, I can't. I
can't say that you got sneakers right, I'm dealing with kids.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
I'm on that record?

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Who wrote it? He came back? He had a verse
of the we was going we was at the hotel.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Wasn't Knas on that record as well?

Speaker 4 (40:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
I believe it's a virgin The only version between Big
Nas all he heard.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
The one we did we went to Jeck Crib and
that ship got Is that the same time that they're
talking about it.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
It was the same record, but no, the same time
that they're talking Nas and Big what what record did
big Gods?

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Kicking the door?

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Kicking the doll? What was what was that line? Because
Nas came back he said some ship, but it was
the hole that he was like. He was like, niggas
is Champagne last year? They wasn't champ No said the.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
Line he said, he take the crown off the so
called king and lock it down freestyle. He did it,
big peep that and that was big response to the
uh the third verse of kicking the door?

Speaker 2 (41:09):
What did he say?

Speaker 4 (41:09):
Again? This goes out for those that choose to.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Use disrespectful views on the king. And why fuck that?

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Why tried? Don't bleed?

Speaker 15 (41:18):
God, you're railing it, snatched that light ship, scaling it conscious.

Speaker 17 (41:22):
Of your nonsience eighty eight, So more powdered than Johnson
than Johnson.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
That is crazy. I used to have to catch on
this ship. I still catch on to some ship now,
Damn dog, I ain't know what that I I should
have to ask Big what you mean by that? That's that,
but that's where that came from. But I asked him
where that came from. He he played the freestyle, was like, listen,
this isn't even using Big words.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
It's his flow, it's his delivery. And the way he
said the words. Man, it was just so clear. Cunch
of your nonsense. Big, I want you young to catch
that back then. Now, Charlie Baltimore, she's my sister.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
That's my family right there.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
But I never seen nobody never mess with Charlie boll
Everybody she messed with, she turns them out.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
What does that mean?

Speaker 4 (42:22):
Yeah? Why I got quiet? You're just because you're not
like I don't know, I'm.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Saying, like, beautiful girl, she's my sister. I love her.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
But you know, it seems like when a man messed
with Charlie, which which this is called the slim lenons
swim le.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Niggas, change the subject, quick protest. You know that was
a professional I feel right about that. Let me take
the question.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Another way, the question another way, because Charlie was messing
with Big at the same time.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Back to that, you know, but a different way, different way.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, he was messing with Big at the same time
as Little Kim. So that was where they turmoil started.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Not really, they didn't really have no turnoil. It wasn't
there wasn't really no situation when they came to faith the.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Faith and and Ken just squashed it and they cool again.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
That's hard, b I had all that situated.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
B I was real cool, like that swing down like that.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
No that was going on, and you wouldn't peep it,
you wouldn't notice it.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
He was smashing. They make a noise for Big so wonderful.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
It was a wonderful big, big fat black Motherfuckeriggs must
be romantic.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
I just feel like big fat niggas this romantic. I
think pun was very romantic. I used to see the
nigga with roses all the time, no reason. What are
you doing?

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Brothert Like it was just cool. Yeah, so got a
little awkward as though.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
It's good. It's good. It's good to get awkward sometimes.

Speaker 22 (44:18):
I was real.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
He was really big pimping doog.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
He was really let's describe at that time, right, because
at that time, y'all just getting to know this guy, right,
and and according to the movie, it's like he gave
Big a check and he gave Big all these promises,
but he really had no accolades to match that as
opposed like you know, I mean, he worked, but not.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
For himself, but still he had but he had, he
had jo.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
He didn't like all that.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
But what I'm saying that was he was it was
his first label, bad Boy, so it was it was.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
He was gonna make his career.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
So what made what do you think made y'all in
general and Big even trust this guy be.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
Ill when I think just I just knew he knew
what he was doing and he was he was He
was devoted to be I. That's one thing I could
say aboutim. He he was you when it came to
be I. He was straight up with Big. You know
what I mean. I can't knock that. I can't take
that away. It wouldn't be no be I. It wasn't
for him, It wasn't for pest, straight up. It's just
the real ship. Ever and be Ill fuck with him.
At the end of the day, we fun with him.
A big dish was divorced dog, you know what I mean.

(45:26):
At the end of the day, if he said it's cool,
it's cool. Who am I to say? I don't funk
with him or be is the one that got us
on this flight right now?

Speaker 8 (45:34):
Dog?

Speaker 2 (45:34):
So what was uff having beef? Were Big? Can you
just he just squashed that far.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
No, it wasn't no beef with him and Big.

Speaker 6 (45:44):
And was there an animosity between Big Craig Mac and
Big Fish?

Speaker 2 (45:52):
He finished? I don't think there was.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
But Matt used to be doing a bunch of funny
style ship and b I used to just that window
bit and then b I just started blowing him like,
all right, my nigga, you want some real bullshit? Fuck?
Do you hating on the load?

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Looks crazy? This one artist launches the leader? No, Big finished,
And then the next artist.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
Flavor Mac Matt Big Mac, he was coming. He used
to be throwing a little ship out be out once
in the blue and No Juicy wasn't as compatible as
as flavoring you. I had a whole album full of
ship once Big Papa came and get down. Was there
one more chance? And now Matt sitting in the back

(46:33):
and he used to be doing a little funny style ship,
Big was peeping it, and Big just started like, all
I'm gonna start blowing this nigga. I mean that was
gonna be b I. He did what he wanted to do,
He said what he wanted to say. We had to
just sit back and just whatever he said. Whatever he doing,
we riding with it. I said, you know, nobody had
no problems with Mac and it wasn't no real situation.
But Mack was just used to do like little funny
ship and Big was peeping it. And Big just addressed

(46:55):
one interview we did in Hollering and they was like, Big,
it's Craig Mack on the album. Big said, Matt, I
don't funk with him. Put my head down. I'm like,
I look at my home while look at rocking them
they shitting over there.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Like remind you like Miking l A almost like how
they be beefing.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
They on the same they like, mind you, it happens.
It's just industry should It's nothing to be personal. It's nothing.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
I mean listen, Big was making those records that the
label had to pay attention to him, and it's automatically
when when you when you get it not shipped on,
but when you're getting ignored for somebody that I both
came in the game together, it's it wasn't Craig Max Fall.
It was just I'm sure he felt a certain way,
but it wasn't big for me that he's going to like, yeah, yeah,

(47:47):
he running some ship. Yeah he's doing something.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
It's a positive. That's we had prof on here. Puff said.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
When Shug said that, he could have shut it down
because you there, he said, we could have he edited it.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
He edited out, we're gonna put that. You're gonna put that.

Speaker 21 (48:12):
Down.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
He was on six sizes of rock at this time. No,
I was in jail. I'm sorry, I was in jail. Yeah,
I thought I was in my mind. In my mind,
I was there.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
You've been to a lot of ship forget about that
sort of war. That was probably the most dangerous award
ever for hip hop.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
And Zino said that was he said he didn't have security.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
He was too bold, he said, he said in his
words the day they was, they wasn't on point.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Is this is this the same one? The whole tribe
in Tupa things the same. That's the next year after.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
The first year of the Source of Wars, the first
the very first.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
One said Yo, I don't want you y'all.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
It's a mean right now, Like sure, they said, I
bet he was wish he.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Was said, that means it's terrible.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Don't don't do that.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Don't do that, big love.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
Now, when that ship was a I mean, ship could
have got yeah, ship could have got hectic. I mean
it was already kind of.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Shut it down. Yeah, it could have got bad.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
Because that was in New York right down, Yeah, at
the garden.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Out of the garden.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
They never gave a guarded back to hip hop since
we ain't never have it no more there.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
But that was that was a real dangerous Awards show man.
It was like uncensored and no security. That ship was
nothing that niggas that guns in the front row. Niggas
had guns at the front row seats and ships.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
My Nigga Awards shows to be creative motherfuckers were restraint.
Actually they were restrained.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Yeah, I mean because a lot of cameras. You know,
you don't want to get on the spot back then.
Everything you got your.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Reputation back then.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
Yeah, one that's wearing with private Yeah that should have
been up for two months right or in the sauce
and the ship, you know your ship like that back
then whipped.

Speaker 7 (49:55):
Niggas getting whipped this in public now way with ship
now you know what I mean. You got all the
social med ain't get away with nothing another way. You
got a different kind of.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
Footage and all that, and that you do have one
one story, Nigga. One way like that.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
You know, Bob.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
In front of you.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Nigga walked right into a pole looking bows. You gotta slap.

Speaker 17 (50:17):
Itig That was on live, Count the Money and they
read right in this ship.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
This count of money and ship.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Back in the closet, pull some more than came right
in the boy and they left the line going like.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
This ship yesterday and.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Turned you see the cop go to the phoning turn
the like this.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Nigga was taping his show.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Social Media. We won the hip hop Hell yeah, this
social media.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
Not just the rap game. That ship in life.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Biggs don't know what to do with it.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
Man, Nobody they say theyself no more. Don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
They just do it for the gram. They don't do
it for they fan no more. They don't do it,
do it for the likes. Dog, you can just snap it,
snap it this is but I see that Nigga the
other day, Nigga just gave up to me. Was just
like yo, Nigga, ain't say hi already he ain't give
me a five You tell me he like my ship? Yeah,

(51:29):
a nigga snick tape. You though, nigga be sitting there
with his phone up to his face like this dogigg
see you, my.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Nigga, I'm ready just nigga. Nigga doing that yesterday and
the joint like this one was what nigga, what are
you doing? What's that three D going on? My nigga?
We cool niggas we're doing and that's what makes it doing.
Like there's some niggas that's not used to that type
of ship like that's cool with that, Like I'm some

(51:57):
niggas not nice like that. You can't just walk up
to him and do that.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Shouldn't be you should be used to that. You can
show screen today right now. Back in the day's choke
slammed the girl.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Who Oh, big choke, slim Oh, that's big up time
of the creative security.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Why did you say that when you say he's cool,
you not really?

Speaker 1 (52:22):
I don't know, man, You ever meet somebody you just
don't know? Like I don't know, I don't I don't know.
Like that's all I can say about that moment. What
it was like this man like you have a meet
m like I know me and him will.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Have nothing in common, but give you a cold handshake. Well,
I don't know. I don't know. It's just like I
don't think it's meant to get along. It's just cool,
Like I accept that, Like you know, I just can't
get along with everybody. It was like see a milk, like,
don't go it can still you can still you can
take that. If you can take that, you can still
drinking it. But yeah, I was just like and the

(53:00):
security just kept looking at me because the security.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Felt like I felt awkward and it's just like I
feel awkward that I might be aggressive.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
So I had to relax.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
So I relaxed myself. It's good to relax.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
I get like that now though I'm a very I'm
a very professional when it comes to the music. Very
cool guy. You can hit me with this.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
You can do all that ship with me now.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
If I'm a little older, and now I'll get irritated
by that ship.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
You gotta get irritated. You gotta get sometimes you want
to come up to you respectably. You gotta say.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
That ship.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
To Cleveland eating. I got my knife and fork and
they just came up yo, yo, don't get out, come on.
We at least I know you're eating. Then give me
a choice. I might want to do it.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
Give me that.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
They don't do nothing that they wouldn't want done to them.
They don't want while they eat, a camera come up
and they face and ship.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Now now I'm flipping on you because like we got
to be used to you. Always been like a DJ
behind the scenes, totally man, Now you're up front.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
I see naves come up to you. I see these
got that. But listen, but how has that been lately?
Like when people coming up saying you.

Speaker 8 (54:10):
Honestly, I don't know, but people have been respectful, right
because so far, because you got the Cuban face.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
On you by somebody that's true. Run they you're doing
you can't say. The other day and you and the
dudes were behind the glass joint that and they just
went to me. I'm like, yeah, I guess drink chance.
It's a beautiful day.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
I'll get a lot of that.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
This is a beautiful Get used to that, nobody.

Speaker 6 (54:37):
But if you come to me disrespectful and then trust
me the white beard don't mean ship and then.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Try to convince you for trying to convince you in
the studio to get.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
On his side.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
No, I wasn't inside.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
I was not.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Come on, you think no, you think that he was
intimidating me. No, I say that I believed his side.
I was on his side to make.

Speaker 8 (54:57):
Your record better. I gotta relax, you gotta run. We
had an epic debate slash argument.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Let me take the argument to everybody, to everybody who
is in the I have not had the bug for
music for quite some time.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
I've been, you know, falling.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Back, enjoying my my, my different life, another life. But
I spoke to for real because I knew I was
gonna be here.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
How much you got for that?

Speaker 2 (55:30):
All my life?

Speaker 4 (55:32):
Someone said something the come on baby.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Let me just say something.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
So it's different phases in different producers lives that they
go through, and I feel I could be wrong. Every
time gives me one, he has one of the craziestest.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Ones ever, even if it don't work.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
If you notice, like every time he gives me run,
he has a crazy run, you know, just lexing, he
has an ill run.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Like whether he gave me works or not.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
I just feel like maybe it's me in my head
just thinking successful you know what I mean, maybe it is, oh,
maybe it's not. Maybe maybe, but listen, his energy right
now is so good. It was so like the first
day was awkward. The first day was awkward, you know,
because you ain't see a nigga six years. You'll see

(56:23):
a nigga six years. It's just always awkward a little bit.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
It's just like, all right, cool, yo, you're still all right, well,
I still you still god, you know. It's awkward for
the first you know, a couple of hours.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
But the next day he drank with us, had some
red wine, and he came in, he chilled with us.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
He rode his bike around the studio. It was weird.
That was crazy, and I'm like, this is USA. It's weird,
our coulmination. It's weird from the beginning.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
But he finally gave me a girl record, so I
definitely sold out.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
I's want to throw that out there, some record sold out.
You know, it's a big record. It's a big record.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
You gave you, you gave for the other side records
bysic crazyes sees. For years, I felt like he's been
coming into my world. And the thing about that us
as being street dudes, that world is always be there
for me. I don't have to always please that world.

(57:29):
Sometimes I want to go to your world.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
That's a fact.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Like that Nigga got hoigh waters on that young world.
That's hard. I can't even put on a pair of
high waters, y'all. They don't fit me. Y'all.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
It's not that I don't dance because I don't want to.
I just ain't got that much random, nice little I
got to mean too small.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
You gave him something crazy something, Yeah, yeah, I got
to mean two steps down. It's a big record. It's
a big it's a big record of my career. And
we got to see genius, and we got to see
his genius.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
We got everything on.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
The spot, and I just wondered, you know, send some
positive energy. We've been speaking since then. He's been calling me,
telling me about how we want to go to Puerto
Rico and you know for the videos.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Everything I want to be if you guys is the
name of the record. We we we're doing some real ship,
you know.

Speaker 17 (58:23):
Man.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
So now with that's dropping the album on D Block,
I just feel like it feels like that, Wow working,
let's do it.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
I got I got that's awesome fulfillments that are all big.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Let me talking about that earlier block walk straight digital
right now, that's that's that's that's really you know, Empire
cutting them by.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
I think he knows.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
Empire, Empire life, shout out the.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Shout out the last idea, last on the locks was
on here Styles was independent.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
Yeah, she was in the middle.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Kiss was major straight.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
Where's kiss at?

Speaker 6 (59:19):
Like?

Speaker 4 (59:19):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (59:23):
I want to go back?

Speaker 4 (59:25):
Still still depend major major deal. Money is different. I
just did that King and from over face she had
right now. They they brought the masters to the b ship.
That's how she got. That's how she did the whole.
I was wondering that King and Ship. It was a budget.
You know when you got that major deal. The budget

(59:46):
you get that, you get the vands.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Warning brothers right, yeah, I want to think so negotiate
with them niggas. Yeah, I want the worry for it back.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
So you know the difference when you're doing you know,
you know that different I said, I want to warri Port.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
It's a different than the percentage. Of course, you want
to own your own album, your first one. It's your
first album. Always. The most special is the is the
ship that got to send the game. You know that
now you you like me. You got the first group
album and.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
The first solo album.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
I want both for mind, you want both. That was
one those two that you can have everything else nothing.
I just want to out. Sorry, man, that's the way.
Is this fact. I would love on We Are the
Streets and I would love The Kissing Death. I can
get the Masters, then got a Michael Jackson. You want

(01:00:43):
to own Craig count get one album.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
I want mine. I want that because I don't think
my album was that good. I didn't think that was
a class.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
That was a class.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Wasn't hit when we said that earlier it was a classic,
That's a fact.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
I didn't think that well. After the years went by,
and sitting with a nigga like this five with somebody
like you, I'm like, niggas, go yo, you got a
dope album.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
That's all right, and it reflected it reflected with b
I G's next project would have been like it reflected
that like it totally felt like that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
It felt like an offspring of Big Ship.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
And that was my challenge because that was my first
time really like happened to use everything that Big taught
me for the first time. And then yeah, he was
a part of that album was under Queen Bee and
it was to Atlantic. But that was my album doing
it without Big, it was dead, you know what I'm saying.
So that was my first time like trying to learn
everything and and really put it together. And I put

(01:01:37):
a dope ass album together. Niggas that came through for
me for that ship too, you know what I'm saying.
That's the Happy New Year's joint with joint. Oh they
got Tiger Bone.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
I didn't want that up right? Where that come from?
We made it. We made it. Hoops hoops. Oh yeah,
you're gonna get into that. Eddie and Branson we used
to see. That's how all the times. Listen. A lot
of people don't know we're gonna get into this. Listen me.

(01:02:12):
I used to see season.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Big and Branson more than I seen them, like you know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
I see it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
I went one time was behind the Countdar. I said,
you Redman can do that ship too. They could be
right behind the counter. In the wise, this is biggie.
This is and I'm not talking a little biggie. I'm
talking platinum biggie.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
This nigga's plattinum so wait wait, so our listeners. Is
this this dude that was portrayed in Half Big, that
that character.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
I felt like they were trying, but but Branson didn't
look like that. He definitely he did have dreads though inspired.
But I guess it was Samson. You're talking about Half Yeah,
I guess it was. But yeah, that's how I used.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
To Big have Big. They made that old bring. I
think I think so, I think so, And I'm gonna
tell you it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Seemed like the way they talk about it was the
first person to put me on the hash oil. But
I'm talking about this is back then, like the hash
oil was popular. Now he had liquid clear, Hack has
my nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
That ship had me tall the fuck b I g
my dude.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
I met a lot of people, queens, niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
See Big in the tunnel with just him and see,
he's my bigga. This nigga's double black, y'all, he's just him.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
And see, I'm going to be in that mother sixteen
years old, I'm going to be in the tunnel driving.
We used to run around this used to run around
there about fifty queens.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Now, let me just say something right because you gonna
take a shot. Come on, you gonna take a shot.
All I gotta be in too high. I guess I can.
We don't have to do we don't have to do it.
Did you see? How did you see? They're just not
doing it?

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
I need to move it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
It was like because you did, like by the way,
you want to shot twin? Come on you come in
here for this secondment?

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Come on? Can you shot? No, we can't. You gotta
take your We celebrated.

Speaker 6 (01:04:11):
Come on.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
Right here, lim my dog. Yeah, we had a.

Speaker 6 (01:04:19):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
How we want to talk. We gotta talk about that's
tiger boat it first. Yeah, we got.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
No because listen how we squashed it was ill you
know what I'm talking about in the court.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
And look, we both got the same lawyer. We were
in the papers Kiss, we're in the papers.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Kiss twenty one and John's oundside be high nine.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Seven, but we got the same lawyer.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Niggas is like y'all got a song because summer's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
And we you know, listen, kiss house, we gotta celebrate scenes.
It's for scenes. Come for seeds.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
We can't come on, come on, dog please.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Doing it for DC Twitter as well, So you celebrate
m I want to getting you gotta get getting so

(01:05:27):
let me just say for the record, I'm getting some
pushed in life. You better get some pushing. And that
the most embarrassing what would be I ever had was
with you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Like it was embarrassing because how we Sposta had no
beat we were supposed to have.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
That's really really back that didn't happened. I say, let
me this way. I supposed to reference right this song
bang bang right, and I was in the studio. It
was a built off this song. I love that song.

Speaker 17 (01:05:55):
That's what's so crazy because the song is going great.
The fox come on and her parts beautiful. But the
bad thing is she's just talking about you know, the family, right,
But I.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Had not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
And the crazy ship was Puff told me. Puff said, Yo,
you shouldn't have let her dissed me on you on
your joint.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
And I never looked at it like that, like because
quiet Storm, I think quiet Storm had came came up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
So she used us this out If you don't want
to no criteria studios, you were showing me Foxy verse.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
Well it was bad.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
You said it was like ship.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Ship she's going Yeah, it was bad. It was no,
it was it was a different version.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
It was worse. There was a different version. It was
a worse version. It actually was the worst verseon she
has six verses. I think you heard the craziest version. Brother, Yeah,
I think you didn't hear this.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
I hear that one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
I tried to do it, like listen, because I know
people been hitting Foxy up every time we say a name,
this is, this is, this.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Is in respect to her.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
You know, we all didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
He was young people. We were young. We were young people.
We didn't know. And it was two girls. They were
both bosses. They were both our people.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
And had teams behind them, teams saying.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
We weren't playing, they were playing. We all do expected both,
we'll all do expected both of them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
So so something happened in from the hot ninety seven
right whatever, Right, so this is the crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Yeah you know what come on about anybody? Nobody google it.
But so now the beef is is circular. Niggas is
like yo yo. But we know we got to speak
to each other, but we can't hit each other. We
both got the same lawyer, Bob Kaleena.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
One day for both our case the same We both
got walking see this this after we all.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Had them malaim in court. You walking you know, on
us the same place. But it's just like the take
it hit me. This is some ship. This was the
niggas me like the old nigga like yeah, I see,

(01:08:08):
I see or sopranos.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Once they met, they met each other at the airport
because because they met him after the middle of the
detective so new.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
It was good. You know, you know, it's good. It's
like it's to have a fight.

Speaker 6 (01:08:20):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
I know you don't want to say because we can't,
because no, we won't. We won't. Let's just explain shots
five shots fire.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Yes, it was something crazy front of my records, Polish records, the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Records. It changed ninety seven's protocol.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
And to take Yeah, I one O five at that time,
if power one on five didn't exist, I don't think
Hot would have still forgave us. What happened was Hot
realized who did whatever whatever, and then they put us back.
Then they said, okay, but to tell you the truth,
speak up to Hot ninety seven.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
But why did they do it?

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
The weak power roles like the weak power came to remember,
we didn't have power.

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
We didn't have it. They knew have problems with each
other and they booked us.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
We were from Conspira, we were from.

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
Tim and they were from three to five. Let's start
the room and they know we ain't know we had
they that we always expected to see them, nigga suppers.
We come out, we leave in the station, they gonna
come in?

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
What show will y'all? He just said that he's three.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
It's three to five, twelve and three and then from three,
who's the host of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
I believe we was clue and y'all was somebody else? Yeah,
because yeah, because it was.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
Like, yeah, it's one of them weekends, different people coming up.

Speaker 13 (01:09:39):
Why would you set up something like that and y'all
already know the situation?

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
It did not you never thought about it like that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
I'm like, yo, after all the ship transported were like, Yo,
did they like do that? They knew the situationship was
going on? This was world going on through that. Nah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
I agree with that.

Speaker 13 (01:09:58):
You knew they was gonna come and we we all
was all right, come on.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
It wasn't there for the record, Yeah he wasn't.

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
There was no, he's never shown up.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
I saw in the court, Yes, I seen him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Car We had other cases, but the great same lawyer
here's the crazy ship. When they when they came for
the High seven ship, they had a couple of niggas
up on the spot. What happened was we didn't know
we had the same lawyer, so I had to send
the lawyer down and they done.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
They did the same. He was great. Had that ship
was so crazy, got everybody on this ye know that
day that's it was so crazy. The fast came in
and said, you can't be a part of this at all.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
He was not ship. This case went there for five years,
like this should happened with us in two thousand and one.
This ain't happened to two thousand and five. Like you
know what I'm saying. Balkley always said, hey, don't talk
on phones. Save you some money because that case is
still over. Yes, yes, tell you this every show I

(01:11:22):
did put two hundred to the side.

Speaker 13 (01:11:24):
Baby, all that because that case didn't go. That ship
ain't cold case.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
That ship won.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
It's still crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
This is crazy about history, right, I'm waiting, Yeah, this history. Yeah,
And we've always been cool in between and before that
it was just we understood what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Is y'all were cool, like when that happened or did y'all.
We was cool before that. We went up before that.
But when it happened, did y'all have to like we
know immediately?

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
We knew immediately whatever that had never had, it happened.
We need to work that ship out because it was
maybe just us the fans. When the fans come, you
gotta realize you chill out, you're my friend. I don't
have them every day.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
They done.

Speaker 13 (01:12:03):
Yes, how.

Speaker 4 (01:12:06):
Y'all don't have no problem.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
What's that ship to that. I'm gonna be let's let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
I'm gonna be honest with you, everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Dog when I got subpeated, right, I'm gonna be honest
with you. Oh game, like twenty thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Early, right, they were supposed to let me in the room.
These niggas had a chart like we was the mafia fault.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
I swear though, like that black book that ran around
the industry. Look at the documentary about that Black Bell. Yeah,
but I'm wal that was that that state.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
This is fast nigga. I walked in on they chalkboard.
They had me at the top of this ship. Then
they had these other niggas. Then they had niggas position.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
I said, you gotta lie, it's not even that serious.

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
This is not what y'all thinkers. Ship's lack so black
and ship take this and you know conversations and when
you kids the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Grazy ship and it is not like the quote unicot
hip hop police the fan.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
The fans had them like they must didn't do a
show on Queens in two years, but just just maybe Queens.
They had the money to pay them, so they bring
that up. They're like, no, we ain't doing show on Brooklyn.
I said I had to. I don't know if I
had some glasses on, but in my mind I had
a glasses and I said, money to pay me. You
idiots like I could defense is so smart. They dun't

(01:13:29):
like because I like the way they had this scrush
it like they really looked at us like we were
some Like the lawyer, her name is Valerie Answterdam value Asdam.
She had to get a federal lawyer. I had to
get a federal lawyer. I couldn't have no lawyer.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
This is my lawyer. She had to come to me
and say, are.

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
You are you really like this? Like you are?

Speaker 6 (01:13:53):
You?

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
Are you like that? And I'm like, you gotta relax,
not a baby but they.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
The way they described us, like we were supposed to
go to jail for fifty years. They had us, and
you know what it is, we got priory cases and
all that ship. So now yes, your your tax bracket
is different. So they just looking at you like.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
And then yeah, I got man's that. You know, that's dumb.
I don't know what these niggas do.

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
I don't charge it, but they trying. That's what they
trying to. But they tried two and two together. They're
trying to at all. They try all of us up and.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
I'm gonna I think.

Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
I think me and him meet in that courtroom saved us.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
They saved it all because we had to sat back
and I'm like, yo, is these people coming.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
They're like, yo, this Feds now like, oh no, this
is serious. We got that blas like, yo, you tell
your niggas that's my friends.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
And they got a chance to see that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
The studio FBI. What happened is this. What we didn't
know is anything that happens on a federal ground. The
Feds coming take.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
Immigration buildings across the st is that Jersey. So when
the states when the state didn't want to carry it
on the fans took over that case. That's why I
never went dead. That's why ball Clean always said, Hey, y'all,
that case ain't dead. Save your money.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
You don't talk, don't talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
That, don't say this.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
We can't say, be careful.

Speaker 4 (01:15:19):
That ship ain't over. And we just sitting back the
party and you're having fun. And five years later I went.
I was on probation. I was in my probation officer.
One day they backed there, serve me minds here, show up.

Speaker 5 (01:15:34):
And decide and for the record, for the record, Yeah
what then about what so ship that you don't forgot you?
I don't know nothing about none of that ship man,
that ship don't I don't know about that day, no
more that five six years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
I wasn't. No, Yeah, that's my.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
That's my god. Damn.

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
I was just drinking, were drinking. That's we were talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Look at that's where good. Yes, right when I seen it,
When I see what they was trying to say that
we were, I calmed it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
All the way.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
I almost agree with them, like yes, I say.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
I think like and I'm like, oh, we got to relax,
Like the whole thing had to change, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
It was so much thing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
But what I'm trying to tell you is they're not
playing with us in hip hop. So you know, use
me and C because I don't know about you. I
can't speak about you and Kimsid. But for that whole
two and a half years that I was banned from
Hot ninety seven, it was probably the worst money in
my life that I was making because ain't nobody trying
to hire.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
You when you ain't got no record spending.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Like this industry is about what do you do right now,
not what have been done for me in the past.
So I'm gonna tell you as a person that was banned.
So so what happened with Hot ninety seven is they
didn't just ban me from Hot ninety seven. They banned
me from MS broadcast, which means everything.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
We couldn't do, not like it's the you knowest ship proposed.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
Don't want to book you because you don't know Rember.

Speaker 10 (01:17:11):
At that time.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
But I was fucked up the club. I didn't I
didn't get din't get the game, you know. But it
was rough. I don't know how it was.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
Revenue that it was supposed to be my image. We're
supposed to be like nah, we that's what we do.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
We get busy.

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
But at the end of the day, now clubs ain't booking.
No club can't go nowhere, they can't.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
It's so bad that the club can't book you and
even book add.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
On ninety seven. We can't say his name, we can't stay.

Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
So in other states it was nobody don't want to
do nothing to you. Whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
Other stations ms own and they were trying to book
me for a show, they would be like like that,
that's that was a rough period.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
About this in my life.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
I don't know how and that's how that ship up,
you know what I'm saying, Like we really we had
to work out way back in there. You have to
share a lot of plas, a lot of free shows.
You got to get back and get graces of that,
you know what I'm saying. But we were smart from
the gate when we saw each other that court. I
was changed that that yes, that we did my nigga,

(01:18:20):
we got beef each No, that's my whole that's chilling.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Just court together, the community, community, community a move about
this ship. Let's do a litit about this ship. And
we had where was the community service?

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
We had to clean the building on the park ye,
it's a choice.

Speaker 6 (01:18:46):
The car.

Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
I want to be outside.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
I'm cleaning the corn and cleaning the courthouse.

Speaker 6 (01:18:52):
That we.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
Had two days community service, community service together, all this
all that and like, yo, dog, what we gonna do?

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
And we went to the studio.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
Pino Gres drank and we fucked around. I got a
call from my lawyer that day, right the day after
that because the Fast want you to come in. And
they came in and asked, me, hey, you know when
the last time you spoken.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
To so Noriega? What yesterday?

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
I can't have beef with somebody I'm friends with. I'm
saying we had Pino Greg, we drank, went to the studio,
We listen to records, we're cooling. How can we have
a situation if we were sitting there and we were
kicking and chilling.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
But that's what you had to do, and look and
let me just let me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
I want to clarify something because lately you like, well
not lately, but back then, your poem received a bad
rap because what happened was going to court, right, So
let me explain from from my point of view. I
wasn't there, so nobody couldn't really suppen him. Because our
testimony doesn't mean ship because I really wasn't there, right,
so they did. They didn't want to subpoena Foxy Brown.

(01:20:07):
But the reason why they subpoened Pone and they suppeated
Seas because Pon and Seas was there. So the minute
you say the government subpoena is you it's called a
government's witness.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
So people from the hood who don't.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
Know no better, they automatically say, the government's witness, he's
a that's not it is.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
What it is is you get, you get a list
of people who you can subpoena.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
Kim could have easily or anybody could have easily said
I must have been a Pone. I must have been
and you know what that would have been. It would
have been the defendant's witness, you know, under saying I'm saying,
oh whatever and whatever that is. So they could have
got to understand and said nothing. For nobody covers that part.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
This is the fact that they you know, where people
don't you know, they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
Know because they don't do that because got understand and
said nothing, but they didn't. They don't care about that.
They don't care about that fact that you push you
when say nigga, you gotta you know, there's nothing. You
go on there and say athlete the fifth and you
could do all that.

Speaker 4 (01:21:07):
Yeah, but you ain't saying nothing to criminal or put
nobody in no bad predicament or nothing. I don't know nothing.
Nobody got arrested from that situation. No, no, no, how
many people got subpoena from that shot, nigga A hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
It was like six hundred people got this ship was
got to see people seven got subpoena anybody.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
It was a bad situe. It was a but we
was not. We was not acting like rappers. Were people
that act like who we are today, drinking and fucking around.
This is who we've been. This is that's why. Ever
it's the best because we're we grew up and you
know what ship was.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
There's no disrecords, there's no it's no history too, there's
no there's no like you know, it's one instance. You
look you look at look at people being it's like
seventeen things like, No, it's just one thing that's done.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
We was all streets and and and and smart enough
to know relax, it's bigger than us.

Speaker 17 (01:22:00):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
But but there's no like this records and all this
like nowadays, that's the first thing that happens.

Speaker 4 (01:22:06):
They go the straight to the students and part two
and no, we don't have we have one part that
was once realized. It was that state, Yeah you like
your dog, that's typing up cool, that's man, were straight on.

Speaker 6 (01:22:21):
Let's do that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Let's make some noise for that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
Kids, kids like, man, I shouldn't have took that tiger.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
Shot took that tiger. Yeah you do what you changed
since the tiger age. Now tagle bone. Let's let's the
squab tiger bone people that list one that nobody don't
want to know what.

Speaker 23 (01:22:42):
We don't want to do that with me because your
experience with me crazy here, Yeah we already did you
already blew up?

Speaker 4 (01:22:49):
What's the whole combination with the tiger.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
The bar around the world, the.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
Talking about the glue gum remix of yeah you die
right this ship, you didn't do that.

Speaker 6 (01:23:04):
We do that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
No, we didn't do that here around the world. Those
ship is super strong. No, I ain't gonna lie to
you know. We should dragon on and just do on
the show.

Speaker 21 (01:23:13):
Second one seconds remix to come back to life all
seconds though you're dead.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
Ship is disgusting. I'm just going on and Barros old bad.
I felt like he almost died. She took it like
a take it like a true many shots she did one.
Yeahs do one more. Let's do one more? See I see?
I mean see man, come talk about shot. No appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (01:23:46):
He had, he had four bad nights his birthday. I'm
having kiss like the kids.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
I totally like a week gemin Oh we Gemini. I'm
a Gemini too today seven twenty seven.

Speaker 13 (01:24:00):
Oh god, oh.

Speaker 4 (01:24:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:24:04):
I love.

Speaker 13 (01:24:06):
People, the best people.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
He's a lost kissed the Cube.

Speaker 4 (01:24:12):
I'm losing shot.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Make some noise with Cube, the crew, Jamie kiss and
in the black trade. Look que your trade here, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
You can't be pouring shots like that though, seees. Come on,
come on, you're gonna relaxed community service.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
You gotta pull my shot. Give me this one.

Speaker 4 (01:24:33):
It might be the best one, the last. You gotta do.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Damn, damn. That's that's niggas is almost your scenes to
hip hop. B d C tweet to I'm only doing
that's right, that's right. DC tour in the man, I'll
be speaking the hour. This is for hip hop, This
is for b I g This is for history, This

(01:24:58):
is for your history.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
This is what that history, This is what crazy love, History,
Hazard a Sound, Rich Blanco History, Kate rose.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
Wood, Everybody History, Beat the Odds podcast coming out. What
Yeah What, Let's let's go. Nigga got a good new port.
Let me get one. No, no, don't come to that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
Oh I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
I thought it's gonna get better. It never gets better.

Speaker 8 (01:25:32):
Man, we didn't understand what the fuck that ship says
on the label man ship ship?

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
So what's the what's the most girls you in? Big Train?
On the night Jesus Christmas, I felt like I felt
like it was a second way.

Speaker 8 (01:25:46):
I felt like I read a lot of train get
into that though you got from Tiger Bolts and just Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
We just got got because because Big was smashing a
lot of things out there. I was I was so
proud of my nigga one day and you gotta answer
that question. But one day, one of my window, one
of my.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
Mans and Big questions and to take my question, they
were bawling and we were at the club and then
Big and Jay.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
Walked in and he left with two drug dealer bitches
from my hood, and I was like that is good.
I want to be a rapper now drunk dealing and
it's big. So they were taking a lot of things.
Let's talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
But I'm much and you had to run a train
with Big. You had to do it, he was true.
I did a few. I can't speak on his ship.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
But why.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Nobody can't get mad at Big? He't got who he smashed?
What celebrity chicken smash?

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
Come on, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
Just I took a shot. No, No, don't.

Speaker 19 (01:27:03):
Do that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
We're not. You gotta tell me we have that bit
you you had you had to focus on.

Speaker 4 (01:27:11):
Laugh, Tell me I fucked a few. I'm not going
to say they name because I'm good friends with them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
Still, let's this song. Let's see we can guess.

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
Yeah song, I have my ship, I have fun. Let's
make some.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
We just still breathe man. From those questions, how did
y'all feel? No real talk.

Speaker 6 (01:27:38):
Serious like I'm going serious serious one when Shane came in,
How did y'all feel about that?

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Like when when they were when they were comparing him
the big and he was being junior mafia to No,
you want that's what he was around at that time?

Speaker 4 (01:27:53):
No, he want to put me in junior mafia. But
we ain't never know. We ain't never had no situations.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Or was there any feelings about his comp Prison's a
big We ain't.

Speaker 4 (01:28:01):
Never trip off that Sean. Sean was.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
For the people. No, no, no daddy in each other.
That was something totally different. That was not different. Put
me onf you know too much. That was that wasn't that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:19):
That was something totally I don't know it one. It
wasn't nothing to doing. It wasn't It wasn't nothing to
do with no personalship with Sean. Sean was always fan
with us, you know what I mean. We never looked
at that no way. Sean was from Brooklyn. He wrapped
that ship. I mean, big was Jamaican. Sean was beliefs.
It's still that Caribbean and we gotta go.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
To believes and check Shaan. Yeah, we're gonna go to believe.

Speaker 4 (01:28:38):
It was nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
It was just yeah, I need that trip.

Speaker 4 (01:28:42):
It was no, it was no situation. You know what
I'm saying, You're.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Gonna come back the passport you got, you got your
green card from from Cuba.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
Trump about the dad Cuba. He's gonna to do this
out of the dead, y'all my family. I'm Cuban.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
I was born in l A. But I'm Cuban. Yeah,
and I went to Cuba. He might not come back.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
I got mad.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
People got care you popping? You said, since come back.
I'm worried. I can't let Trump don't. I don't think
you could come back. My people just eating right now
ki yo real no real food, not eat like the
way we know eating. They're getting to eat. They say,

(01:29:34):
is mister Lee ever coming back?

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
I don't think. I think that Trump is going on.
It's going to show up. When he say drink, it's
not you.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
I'm staying here.

Speaker 8 (01:29:47):
Their Trump said drinks is definitely not like I'm mister careful.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
He should he should have hit he should have hit me.
I would have said, it's not a good idea, right
the immigration You're not missed the league, and they're gonna
say and you're not going to the US, and you

(01:30:15):
tell them to go back. You wanna say you stayed.

Speaker 4 (01:30:19):
This is I don't want no problems with none of
that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
But you came back from a ruber. We spoke about
that earlier. I spoke about that. You spoke about it here.
I said, you spoke about that.

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
Yeah, I don't want no problems with none of that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
Don't green cars is.

Speaker 4 (01:30:34):
I don't buy liquor. I don't buy cigarettes. I don't
buy none of that ship. And I'm over there.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
Every time we travel. Drain that drake pulled over. Yo,
you got that money for you Because the British.

Speaker 4 (01:30:46):
Anywhere, they got to ask me for my passport. I'm nervous.
I used my license. What about if I can't use
my license for nowhere? I gotta go. I'm nervous.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
Bro. We come from out of the countrum. Might band
you drink.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
We come from out the dream asport, but it's not,
it's not doesn't work, don't work under the crap.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
I seen she was there, you y'all. Ship all blue, right,
it's like all blue.

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
It's like it's like English blues, like, oh, nigga, you
from running and you did you better than us.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
They gonna get you black British. No, you gotta you
know what you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
Domestic you gotta get a Miami. I d stop pulling
out that thing. Domestically, they gotta get.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
That you're a citizenship. Oh you're not a citizen, y'all,
It's like a said, you're round.

Speaker 4 (01:31:38):
How you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
You going to your citizenship? You're a citizen, yo, yong around.
We got some illegal alliens out there, yo. But ship
scam scamming our logo, scamming bit our logo scammed. He
when Trump got elected, he call him how do I
get my pastor how do I get my citizenship? I
said this, Are you from some Jamaican? I said, Chris, Yeah, yeah, Jerry,

(01:32:12):
I think you're safe. No, Boris Boris, Damn we're Boris.
Boris is a resident on the jail. Boris where you're at?

Speaker 19 (01:32:20):
Ye?

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
Come me at? Where are you from? Peru? Them niggas
ain't got no Come on, if you don't make something,
come on. I just want them to hear your your accent.
He's gone. They're gonna fish fry this nigga.

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
Oh man, tell him where.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
You're from in Perule your hood?

Speaker 4 (01:32:43):
And then all that?

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Why what where else?

Speaker 4 (01:32:47):
People?

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
My hood? And that's why he's getting the porters. You
might never be seeing it be five months you saw.

Speaker 4 (01:33:06):
You give me good.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
Like that to get supported as an island man, we
go you to go bank for.

Speaker 19 (01:33:21):
Is gonna be some all ship here with none of
us Jamaicans. We're in trouble right now. We're all fucking trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
It's got it's more of us than that.

Speaker 4 (01:33:36):
We'll be all right. We just gotta keep fighting. Let's
stop promoting that nigga. Everybody promoting Trump too much. Man,
That's how he's won. I never put a meme up
by that nigga, even if it was funny or whack.
Everybody promoted him by up. I never putting nothing him. Yeah,
but you're giving him. Let you even if you if

(01:33:56):
it's a funny meme, still giving him attention. And people
don't see.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
Ship like that. They get more fire when they see
people this them want more. It's always awkward.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
And I walked through the airport and I see somebody
with make America Great Again. It's like I just know
I don't get along with you, so I just I
just automatically go to the other side of the bar.

Speaker 24 (01:34:15):
I'd be like, oh, Ship, sit down, like hey buddy,
I'm like, oh, no, whatever, and I just go to
the other side of the bar like And.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
It's always like the whitest of the white guy. Like
it's like, you know, he don't like hip hop.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
He just he just ride camels and cows camels, I
mean horses.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
Were not camels. Yeah, definitely, don't care.

Speaker 4 (01:34:42):
But that's so good. I should be whack. That's why
we can't. You know we we we help him, We
helped him win.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
Well, it wasn't we. Our system was already broken and
that's why he want but.

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
We helped him to. Everybody thought the memes was funny.
Come on, got real, when ship got real? Anybody was
up there tomorrow. Oh, I can't believe he's winning. Why
you can't believe he's winning?

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
He was putting everything, everybody, all our people getting vote.
Did you vote all of us? Hell, knowing you vote
that voted?

Speaker 4 (01:35:14):
Don't know why because that shit don't matter to my lobbyhood,
how I understand.

Speaker 6 (01:35:18):
But that's the reason why he won to because all
of us didn't vote all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
We really don't know why. We didn't really don't know why.
I voted to what Hillary? And I was like Hillary,
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (01:35:30):
A lot of people didn't know.

Speaker 24 (01:35:31):
What it was.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
Obama.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
Not only did I try to vote that they would
let me, but I brung people out to vote, Like
I didn't do that, just campaign and like I had everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
Come to Holly. I lived in Hollywood at the time,
so everybody come to Florida. Now, Florida, I never about.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
You know, you only been in my house seventeen times
cause yeah, but I had lived there at that time.
I had set up you know, my nephew, my uh
my wife, everybody you know and other people, Yeah, to
come and vote. You know, I'm saying that we had
got a family in Florida. So if I didn't, I
had a family just in New York, they would have
let me vote.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
But the fact that I you gotta, yeah, I gotta Florida,
it's terrible. We don't want to talk about it. It's
terrible what you said. The feeling I was like, man,
let's do that. Let's have that to let's have that
to So Seeds, what is next? What is next for

(01:36:28):
seeds and hip hop?

Speaker 4 (01:36:30):
Wonderful World?

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
Is?

Speaker 4 (01:36:30):
Is Leo too?

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:36:37):
I got something. I got something, but that that's That's
one next project I'm working on though. I got a
little project coming out called The Hart of the City.
I'm gonna put together.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
That's the Heart of the City. You on that, Okay,
the record we did, We'll have it front. Okay, cool,
I do new one too, because I feel like that's old.
So you know, I'm I'm reaching the world.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
I'll do a new one. You're no problem, nigga, you know,
no problem.

Speaker 4 (01:36:58):
We put that together the first that's it. And we
got the documentary coming out for B I G for
A and E. It's coming out June twenty eight. Yeah,
we'll be out here next week for the film festival,
put me here in it and doing the screen it
for us.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
Did you see the final product the premise of the documentary.

Speaker 4 (01:37:17):
Yeah, it's just about be our life and it's like yeah,
but it's a more exclusive one. But is it like
is there a like any It's the day one people
from the gate. It's people that you probably ain't never
did an interview about. Big You gonna see on this one,
you know. So it's a real dope one. His mom's
produced it, Faith produced it. You'll see a series or

(01:37:38):
it's just it's just one series that's coming on A
and E. Uh. It comes out June twenty eighth. We're
gonna be doing the music conference out here June sixteenth
for it. So, I mean, and I'm working on the
Hardest City project. I got coming out one of the
four Ross neal to h what else I don't know,
because you know what, like I said, I had a

(01:38:00):
session with Forrell the other day and Forrell had told
me something very interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
He said he threw Happy out six months prior and
the record didn't actually work too.

Speaker 4 (01:38:12):
He actually put out the video.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
So with the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:38:18):
No, he said, the movie was out too, the movie
that was a part of the movie, Yeah, it was.
And he said the people just called him one day
and said I wanted to do the video. And when
he did the video, that visual was actually what.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
Made all this come to full success.

Speaker 1 (01:38:35):
Do you think our era it should be more our
era just just period Artists should be more visual driven nowadays.

Speaker 4 (01:38:46):
I think so. I think our history can kind of
show people how to adapt to what's going on today.
I think, ever, it is more important now than it
was when we was living it, you know what I mean,
because we're seeing what everybody doing today is what we
did years flattops and the datas and change rope change.
This is something that lived through between now that I

(01:39:07):
think we just starting to see how important our situation
was now because especially when you see a young cat
that's coming up the game. Embrace what we came through
because we come from a different you know, it was dog,
our ship was real. Think about what we went through
and you had to be real like, yeah, hold on, dog,
it takes a it's a it's real for y'all to
last this long kiss and you like to you gotta

(01:39:31):
we gotta learn how to recreate ourselves and to make
ourselves better. And these young niggas could live for its
just something that's just media, right, you know what I'm saying, Like,
we really had to hustle and strive and do ship
for our ship like and go through real situations. And
I think the new generation they get it. They get
an easy pass. We still on the line. The new
generation get to get that easy.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
Remember you had to have a dope show and all that.

Speaker 4 (01:39:54):
Like everything to maintain a leverage of being around that long.
How many rappers you know today is gonna be around
another twenty years?

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
Like how?

Speaker 6 (01:40:07):
But I think the balance is recreating yourself and not
losing yourself. That is the balance, because the motherfuckers lose themselves.

Speaker 4 (01:40:14):
But we got to learn how to adapt to something
that's totally different that we not hit for I'm not.
I want to get up every day and post on Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr,
this and that, and I gotta do too much ship
like we, I want to get up and just smoke,
put the record out, send it out this way.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
I'm waiting to do that. I don't know. I don't
know how to do that. He's just thinking, these all.

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
These ships that my nephews and my people is around
talking about, you gotta get on this and when I
post them on Instagram, I gotta do.

Speaker 2 (01:40:45):
I gotta do Twitter, I gotta do Facebook. I gotta
do snapchat on Twitter and Instagram.

Speaker 4 (01:40:49):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
That's all. I'm a d D and I'm dyslexic. That's
all I can actually handle, is it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:54):
But we But that's how work. We gotta do. You
know what I'm saying, Like, that's the ship. But we
didn't have to do it that type of ship. Back
when we came up, it was all about just dope music.
As long as you was dope, we searched for you.

Speaker 6 (01:41:05):
Well, actually you did do it, you just didn't know it.
The label did it. As a publicist, there was no
social media.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
But that was the same difference as a publishers public
The difference is now is that it's personalized.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
You're doing it for yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:41:18):
I went to sound audiographic record stores. Nowadays you do
interviews online, right, the things that trade, Right, So.

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
This streaming hurt the game or helped the game? Kiss
it heard it for artists.

Speaker 4 (01:41:32):
I think it helped it for the.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
Is that because they've got to spend money?

Speaker 19 (01:41:37):
Man? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
Yeah, help.

Speaker 6 (01:41:40):
But they're saying it's changing now for the artists, that
it's helping the artists.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
Now, that's what they're saying. Let me tell you this.
Fifteen hundred streams that one. Yeah, I'm just saying that's
what they're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
That record old Spotify the way I know this guts
then streams and.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
One that's got.

Speaker 4 (01:42:08):
Check one.

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
They gotta relax. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:42:17):
I don't know how this reflects on artists. I don't know,
but what I've heard is that not heard. This is
actually facts. Devil's advocate, like the d A for the
artist on your side, but I have the Devil's advocate.
They're saying that for the first time in years, record

(01:42:40):
industry has made profits.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
Now, obviously that might not mean the artist, know you
just feel me? Okay, that definitely don't mean artists exactly.
That's the I'm gonna tell you where I come from. Everybody.
I mean, let me tell you what I call as
the artist. We on the bottom of the absolutely get
the last bit. Yeah, we get to put his hands

(01:43:05):
in it, and then we get this. But I'm gonna
say what I'm gonna say something.

Speaker 6 (01:43:10):
You're also both y'all are on the I'm a major
label artist advocate.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
I want to be on a major. I just want
the bag list. Listen, Like, the reason why I'm.

Speaker 6 (01:43:20):
Saying this is because I managed the artists and there's
I have an artist signed a Strange music.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
Tech nine. These guys and they're always like looking at
the industry and trying to figure out how they can
make money. Bless you, but they do.

Speaker 15 (01:43:38):
Tech nine is an independent that's damn better than a major.

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
Well that's what I'm understanding. Totally. Rather be on a major,
absolutely if you don't want, if you there, you go.
That's what you said, But it's fucked up.

Speaker 17 (01:44:03):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
I'm spoiled from when they was given. They was giving
us everything. But those days don't exist, and you can
still love those days.

Speaker 4 (01:44:13):
We still got.

Speaker 6 (01:44:17):
Survived, never gave us the bag, you lose ownership because at.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
The end of the day, wealth is built ownership. You're right.
Wealth is built in ownership. You're right, you're right.

Speaker 4 (01:44:33):
But these kids know.

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
Sometime sometimes you can own something that's worked nothing. But
that's the risk of only that's the risk, that's the
and that's what we're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:44:50):
Generation don't gotta gamble. They know what they're gonna do.
They gambled, they already doing. They don't got nothing to
risk because they doing money in the studio. They just
put a cloud during their.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
The last few projects we dropped as the locks.

Speaker 17 (01:45:05):
We own it, we made ship off of it. It's
good that we owned it. But it's a flip side.
They figured out how to fuck the game. Now that
they let niggas get their masters, it's always a flip
side to the At one time it was impossible on

(01:45:26):
the niggas like Mike Jackson is getting everybody. So now
that they letting regular black hood niggas get masters, they
figured out.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
It don't even mean nothing written.

Speaker 17 (01:45:40):
It means something to you as to own the war
report and the own way all the streets is special ship.

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
But the ship is so digital now, heyah, black boy
you cann have this rich you can have that, you
got it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
Chance to.

Speaker 6 (01:46:00):
I don't think would change that as the fact that
anybody can make music right now, anybody kill it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (01:46:06):
The blow up.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
So now you're ship don't mean ship because other motherfuckers
making ship too.

Speaker 4 (01:46:13):
And we did our ship for you.

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
See back then when the album came out, you lived
at the album studio was hard. Back in the day,
I was listening. Man, Now you got two days. I
was at the same ship. You got two days. Nigga
listened to you and they say they want another one.

(01:46:37):
Nigga coming three days. So that's why I don't love that.
Albums like that. Niggas won't work. Won't work for me. Yeah,
you look under the Common and Nigga wan another one.

Speaker 4 (01:46:54):
Coming out. I even my nigga, i't even start working
on that yet.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
Doesn't what they do with the ox. He's like everything
you put out something, your comments, what's the next one?

Speaker 13 (01:47:07):
I just dropped this, and they on you. You promote
something ship every day, you know, don't.

Speaker 4 (01:47:13):
We're happened to that locks and block mo ship. They
on you. You can't sell nothing, nothing and not live
up to the expectations with this error.

Speaker 17 (01:47:21):
You can't say nothing coming out to his ready whole
where's that project? I get that every every fifty minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
Before it came out, and you was smashing the shorty
from a law to right.

Speaker 4 (01:47:38):
No, No, I wasn't we are you talking about? He
was just going through why your phone is? Don't find
them either?

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
Got I haven't done nothing. That was very cool.

Speaker 4 (01:47:56):
I was just out of you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
Next episode, next next, in other way, you can go
ripple beat the little crippled. That's what I started to
interview with. That's my favorite line I started the interview
with in My Life season.

Speaker 15 (01:48:08):
I just say that about that line, not even that
he crashed, crashed the card ripple with some strong ship.
That was a hello, good parents, just from Who was
Biggy's favorite.

Speaker 4 (01:48:21):
Rapper in your opinion back then? Yeah, a lot, hell
a lot da old dirty oh he whole.

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
Any West Coast artists.

Speaker 4 (01:48:40):
Stopped that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:45):
Heroin thank you?

Speaker 4 (01:48:46):
That was his name right here, just the locks. I
mean be I was a fan of music, my nigga.
We listened to everybody my nigga listen to. We listened
to Ship. I'm a fan of ship. I can sit
there and you're about a bunch of music.

Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
Had it was used to come to the studio. Bigger
be sigging about our ship that we just laid like
you come before, Big and why before I even had.

Speaker 4 (01:49:18):
You called me?

Speaker 17 (01:49:19):
I can't get plenty of sessions. They knocking our ship
like a raw version that cannot.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
Live, just the tack of bone.

Speaker 6 (01:49:26):
It was not.

Speaker 2 (01:49:29):
Big, no smoke. Was supposed to be ready to die?

Speaker 4 (01:49:34):
Is that true?

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
One more chance? Right? What happened when nas got too high?
That was one more chance remix. He was supposed to
be you ever see it was there smoking and I
think there's one more chance remix with everybody on the.

Speaker 4 (01:49:57):
Got too high?

Speaker 23 (01:49:58):
They said where I smoked him out too much? And
he never like he said that we sucked? Can this
message does not? Every question?

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
If he Big questions Daddy's house, I was like drink
champs every question.

Speaker 14 (01:50:24):
And then once I got cool with Big enough to
smoke and everything, once I knew he wasn't he wasn't
gonna say get the funk out of here on the
ability to.

Speaker 1 (01:50:36):
Ask ship as said everything you asked that where the
mother as a Let's get this story straight. One more
chance remixed sessions because.

Speaker 17 (01:50:46):
The regular one is already the regular one, because that's
such an incredible record.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
Yeah, come on, has google it?

Speaker 4 (01:50:55):
And I feel I don't know who did that.

Speaker 1 (01:51:00):
A lot of people, which BIGL had that same sample
the hook you, So I had a lot of people
on it.

Speaker 4 (01:51:06):
Everybody hit that record. I ain't got no great record
man be B records before that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
But NAS was supposed to be on that record. That
would have been crazy man.

Speaker 4 (01:51:16):
So they are not supposed to been to the record.
That is that one picture with him and Big in
the studio. You see you can see all the ship
in the studio, but there was no recording for but
it was also another studio session.

Speaker 2 (01:51:27):
With Q tip Q tip song Oh Wow, and now
isn't Big was on?

Speaker 4 (01:51:32):
Was Big?

Speaker 14 (01:51:34):
It spposed to be Big Buster and Buster was still
sneaking his dick and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:51:43):
The greatest.

Speaker 17 (01:51:47):
Being in the game I watched I went to see
Leaders in the New in about eleventh tenth grade or something.
For him to still be Rocket, have O t you
niggas a.

Speaker 12 (01:52:06):
Time?

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
Yeah, come on, what it says PuF daddy, But woman,
I don't believe that.

Speaker 4 (01:52:13):
Then it was he did that with somebody he did
that with somebody shot the hit makers. Oh yeah, that's
what that was. There's a lot of producers that the
Prospect ship going on there.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
I can't remember.

Speaker 6 (01:52:27):
That.

Speaker 4 (01:52:27):
But then remixes came that was secondhand ship, like the
Ready to Die album, something totally different, like Easy Mob
did that shot.

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
Easy Heavy too.

Speaker 4 (01:52:39):
That's how That's how Big and P got cool.

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
I just learned from.

Speaker 4 (01:52:47):
Thinking about Easy Mob did damn near eighty percent of
Rady that died Waring in Machine Gun Funk?

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
And what's the album that is the same thing he Didation.

Speaker 4 (01:52:59):
Matter The only bigger first down Easy Mob be was
the one that glued that shipped together with Big and
Stretch ll Stretch.

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
Like Stress.

Speaker 4 (01:53:12):
It's a lot of history from that ship. It's a
lot of ship to recollect now because I can't come
off and with that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
But Tiger Boom sucked it all.

Speaker 4 (01:53:19):
Up, Tiger Bone with all that ship, and we got
a party tonight too, so I got to make sure
we got a bag of.

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
My wife dinner.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
I'm out of line, but Blair, we have black girls,
Jerry Black.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
I thought we took care of that first.

Speaker 4 (01:53:35):
My bad Cherry.

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
Sorry, but now let me ask you there is a
produced on Life After the Death Right, and that was
awkward because it seemed like Ray and.

Speaker 9 (01:53:45):
And ghosts, Yeah album it was. It was a ghost
you said they were talking about that whole Yeah, it
was only built that album on that record. The record
plays after that album.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
It's all in the course. Yeah, you're correct. But what
I'm saying is, so, how was that awkward getting Risen in.

Speaker 4 (01:54:11):
The studio because be I and Trip off that be
I knew just that it was just a situation. Man,
he understand, he understood what it was. We was bumping
at the album. Knew about that ship and they knew
about it. And after the Source of Wars we was
have met that day at the tunnel, Ray con and
them at the Source Award and that whole ship our beef.

Speaker 2 (01:54:31):
We ain't have nothing to do with the death roll beef.

Speaker 4 (01:54:32):
Our situation that day was within that day. No not
now going no, no, I don't no beef ship. But
you know they had that, they had that ship. That
was our first time with us seeing everybody together because

(01:54:54):
of that, and that's the first time Big Big was
not on that day almost like yo, we're gonna meet
at the tunnel. We never wanted to go into the
club that day. But that's the first time Big, that's
the first time we had interactions with with them. Besides
meth was always our niggath with Methan, but being used
to fuck with them. It's footage on YouTube, are Big

(01:55:15):
bumping that album? So Big thing was never aggressive. It
wasn't no aggressive ship. They didn't just see a nigga,
go yo, dog, what's up? Like nigga, I fuck with you?
It was good you my nigga. I ain't know you.
You do, We're gonna meet later.

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
Let's kick it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:29):
And but that was our real situation that that whole
death readship was just something that just happened from that,
you know what I mean. But that was other situation
that was going on around that that time, or that
source of war ship like that was the first like
Hip Hop Awards show, there was a bunch of niggas
running around beefing and and bugging about ship like that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:47):
And we're talking from a perspective like we just reminiscent.

Speaker 4 (01:55:50):
It's not nothing to these It's just real situation. That's
why I have it was really the dupest ever dog
you had to be about that ship and be real
and authentical.

Speaker 2 (01:56:01):
But then but then Big.

Speaker 4 (01:56:03):
On that our because it was all the love, it
was all respect. It was just about sometimes it's miscommunications, misunderstanding.
Ain't nothing wrong to say.

Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
You don't seem like He still loved the culture of
the music and it was a big fuck with niggas
like Big.

Speaker 4 (01:56:17):
At the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:56:18):
Big was a fan of the art of the world.
He loved. It was about the boss us.

Speaker 1 (01:56:25):
Big seemed like he was smarter than all of us,
like meaning like he knew like what I mean, but
that he was hell of mature for he was he was.

Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
He was waving who he just seem that way.

Speaker 4 (01:56:37):
Yeah, niggas said about that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
He didn't seemed like he petty Jay. They still good.
Jay still be going at niggas. Niggas is spilled on his.

Speaker 2 (01:56:50):
Third grade s.

Speaker 1 (01:56:51):
Niggas He's ego, I am sometimes I respect your petty
and this Jay your.

Speaker 4 (01:57:03):
It was real ship. There was both two different people.
Big didn't stressed about dissing people. Even if you said
something about Big, he wouldn't even stress it. But he
all light tap you without you even knowing.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
It's matt Row.

Speaker 4 (01:57:16):
He tackled niggas in it. Nobody won't know. You got
to figure out that ship. But that's how he figured
out when niggas talking about it. Nobody never blatantly says
something about big but Big rap between the line because
he's an artist. Tune. Yeah, he's a rap.

Speaker 2 (01:57:32):
He listened to everything. He study it.

Speaker 4 (01:57:35):
That's why you got grace like this. This is why
you got niggas that lived that long, because we study
this game. You gotta be a part of this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:57:40):
You gotta be.

Speaker 4 (01:57:42):
You won't never know how to come about it. If
you ain't, you don't understand it. My nigga, I ain't
know why biggers say certain things, but he understood ship
that I didn't catch. Dope. Niggas is dope like you
may not understand what y'all about. You made worries up right.

Speaker 1 (01:57:59):
Make it over today, nigga, no problem. Make one up
by a Ping Pong sing song.

Speaker 2 (01:58:04):
That's my that's my sentence. Ching Chong sings song. Let's go,
that's discussing King Chong sings song.

Speaker 4 (01:58:15):
You know it's certain people that created something that made landmarks.
My niggas, you ain't got to be the biggest ship ever.
But yeah, your landmark a stamp, you for being what
you stood for. You know what I'm saying, and that's
what it's about. God damn it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:29):
That was so makes much you got. But I'm not
gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (01:58:36):
The only problem I'm having right now what is I
can't leave on drunk and ship three is my lucky number.

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
I can't leave on to urinate and then I come back. No,
just get the three and your kids.

Speaker 1 (01:58:50):
You gotta relax. Come on, we gonna start spreading the
rumor that you don't have a dream.

Speaker 4 (01:58:56):
Chaps.

Speaker 2 (01:58:56):
You've been on here like seven times. I guess you
listening to kiss you alcoholic too. You've been fighting it,
but I just want to put you on seven times
like this is my first. You like to drinks?

Speaker 1 (01:59:12):
Come on?

Speaker 2 (01:59:14):
Or you love us? You love us? I love you? Okay.
I got more questions. Nigga, How he's got a top five?

Speaker 4 (01:59:25):
I go top ten. I don't got a top five, okay,
because five it's a lot. It's a music, my nigga,
I fuck with a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
I can't.

Speaker 4 (01:59:36):
You want to know my top ten?

Speaker 25 (01:59:38):
H you got a g rat COOLGI came m me
starting off me, came my nigga can't funk Madonna.

Speaker 2 (01:59:53):
You gotta you gotta respect.

Speaker 4 (01:59:54):
That came cham was born for a lot of.

Speaker 2 (01:59:59):
Caine?

Speaker 4 (01:59:59):
Is that nigga.

Speaker 2 (02:00:02):
Rap?

Speaker 4 (02:00:03):
Did you say?

Speaker 1 (02:00:04):
Everybody said Horse from the break Rock Rock Rock Cam Rock. Wait,
so we got g rat Ca Rock Camp Pop three
Me you got Parking the top ten before Big.

Speaker 4 (02:00:19):
There's no that's what I just got my top ten.
It's just people guarantee the Locks as a.

Speaker 20 (02:00:29):
Whole, a whole, Yeah, with all three of them. They
are the streets Big l Big, you got big, it's you.

Speaker 1 (02:00:45):
Definitely, You definitely got gum under your temblance when you
got in your top, you know it's gum under your sneakers.

Speaker 4 (02:00:52):
It's a bunch, It's a bunch of people.

Speaker 2 (02:00:54):
Could keep going, keep going.

Speaker 4 (02:00:56):
This is hip hop hip How many I'm at? I
think that?

Speaker 2 (02:01:02):
Wait, Cougie g Rock, Kim G Locks.

Speaker 1 (02:01:07):
King, Big al Caw bigl mm hmm.

Speaker 19 (02:01:15):
Big.

Speaker 4 (02:01:16):
I ain't big as my last Okay, Okay, there's no
there's no question about it. We don't even count Big
in this Okay, you shouldnt even be in there, all right?
Equation of course, nas it's my niggahle mm hmm. Hole,
without question, you got to left. See this one. My

(02:01:39):
ship at tricky at scar face. It's like I listened
to a lot of scar face, like Yellow Boys Ship,
Diary of a bad like scar face is my dog.

Speaker 26 (02:01:55):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (02:01:57):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 4 (02:02:01):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (02:02:02):
Because you're mad, He's coach with it right now.

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
No overside scarface scarfaces Houston, Yeah, scarface ship. You're about
to say the brad on them scarface yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:02:14):
Pot.

Speaker 4 (02:02:16):
Yeah, And I honestly I might be biased. Snoop is
my man.

Speaker 2 (02:02:22):
I thought you're gonna say little camp.

Speaker 4 (02:02:26):
In my fear. I don't care number. You're not counting number.
Part of I'm counting something that outside this ship is
like I can't put certain people I'm connected to, Like
there's certain people don't connected to that don't count.

Speaker 2 (02:02:39):
It's it's automatic. Ever see somebody say that Big isn't
number one? Do you ever?

Speaker 4 (02:02:44):
Do you? Ever? Big is my favorite because Big cover
all grounds and ship. I feel like as an artist,
be I covered every part of the rap component you
want to you want to put down, storytelling, flows, melodies, cadence, metaphors.
I think Big covered all parts of that.

Speaker 2 (02:03:04):
He did too positive.

Speaker 4 (02:03:07):
He had there's so many. I don't like having them
type of Gotti.

Speaker 2 (02:03:12):
He just did a three I'm talking about that. He
got a show called Tales.

Speaker 1 (02:03:19):
He actually takes an artist record and he makes a
whole movie out of it.

Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
He did.

Speaker 4 (02:03:27):
I think.

Speaker 2 (02:03:27):
I think the idea is dope. He he did.

Speaker 1 (02:03:32):
Story to Tell b I g So I followed him
on Instagram. So I've been checking it and it's a
whole story, like the whole movie basically Story to Tell.
But do you not feel like he should have, like,
you know, I mean all due spect to him, but
you don't feel like he should have hollered at you
and said because you you probably was in that second session.

Speaker 4 (02:03:53):
I don't even know about I ain't never heard about it.
You just told me about it just now.

Speaker 2 (02:03:56):
I've never heard about the shots You're gonna get you
up the date with the Internet.

Speaker 4 (02:04:02):
You never even heard. I didn't hear about that, about
the seriously.

Speaker 2 (02:04:09):
Drink champs, God damn it.

Speaker 6 (02:04:10):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:04:12):
Yeah, but that's that's what's happening right now. So what
he's doing is a whole movie based upon it's a record.

Speaker 2 (02:04:18):
No, it's like a movie. Yeah, it's like an actual movie.

Speaker 1 (02:04:22):
Based upon like the record, So I think he did
story to tell about Big. I think he got something
from Jay something Queen from You Got Trapped, Queen from
Freddie Robs. So it's a whole like a whole production,
like a movie. From his interpretation, I'm guessing what he
thought that they was trying to do. I think it's dope.

(02:04:42):
I just wanted to know did he actually reach out
to the artist to say, do you have any input
on this? Because I know, as me like like me
like if you just do super Doug like and you
just like you gotta relax like look like like come on,
I wouldn't have And it's crazy because it's BT.

Speaker 2 (02:04:58):
So BT automaticly has the rights because they gave you.

Speaker 1 (02:05:02):
Whenever you signed off on your ship, you signed off
for them to have the rights to your video, so
they can do what they want.

Speaker 2 (02:05:08):
Actually, but I would think, I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:05:10):
Know, my buggy use a song from the label maybe,
but I would think, like like if the dude did
a movie to knock yourself out, you would want to.

Speaker 2 (02:05:23):
Yeah, Like I mean I asked what I was asking
because they did be I g's.

Speaker 4 (02:05:29):
They probably did that through the state.

Speaker 2 (02:05:30):
Okay, I'm pulling nor shots they're gonna be like, they're
gonna be different. Oh, it's the cup. It's the cup.
Is the set up? Yes, it's not Nigga's hand. No,
it's that ship. It's the cup. It's your last shot
and interview. Last one. We got to do three. Three
is my lucky number. I had three. You know you

(02:05:51):
had two, Sir. I count very well. I'm sorry I
don't read good, but I count very well.

Speaker 4 (02:05:55):
Take one.

Speaker 2 (02:05:56):
Let me get the other. Yeah, I'm gonna do light shots.
That's what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 4 (02:06:01):
Quiet, don't make minds like I made him.

Speaker 2 (02:06:03):
You said, Look look at that. Look at that. That's good.
That's money. That's a baby one. That's good baby.

Speaker 1 (02:06:10):
By the way, look at mine is like teenager. I
got because I'm celebrating little seeds. Go look at that
kids I got you. Be kind, be kind and yes everyone,
and let's big up. Jerry a blackbird again, Jerry blackbird contra.
Look at that I got the I got the most
disrespectful shot.

Speaker 2 (02:06:32):
D C twin and d C twin shot.

Speaker 27 (02:06:37):
Yo, we love you, d C twin. You're gonna be
back in the middle now. Now I got disrespect he
wants don't don't do him. Don't he likes he does Gang.

Speaker 2 (02:06:49):
Big Up the Cows and pancake Gang. Little.

Speaker 1 (02:06:54):
We wanted to continue to celebrate you. You had one
of the craziest positions hip hop, the best I ever
did it alive.

Speaker 2 (02:07:05):
It is your right hand man. You grow up with him. Yeah,
it's very different.

Speaker 4 (02:07:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:07:10):
The chest, the chest he is is growing.

Speaker 4 (02:07:17):
The last one was a little.

Speaker 2 (02:07:22):
Kids. So see anything you want to tell the people
before you get about him.

Speaker 4 (02:07:30):
Not to drink tager bow no tags cool was very
that's very cool.

Speaker 2 (02:07:35):
Healthy us me jump.

Speaker 4 (02:07:38):
On somebody's bapt just don't drink too much of it.
But no, you shout to your congratulations over here, I'm
thinking about brother. This is something really big. Thank you, brother,
you got something really big going on man, hip hop.

Speaker 2 (02:07:50):
This is what hip hop.

Speaker 4 (02:07:50):
Hip hop.

Speaker 1 (02:07:51):
Hip hop needs some We need a nigga running so
we do like for real, like this, think about it.
We need the inmates running the building. Yeah, finally we
got the inmates one of the buildings.

Speaker 2 (02:08:03):
This big up a vault. We're leaving.

Speaker 1 (02:08:05):
We're leading as a TV show. Now we blew up.
We sold out here. Let's just start it out there.

Speaker 2 (02:08:10):
We sold out. We ain't sell because we're gonna maintain
our integrety. No, we're definitely gonna manage that.

Speaker 6 (02:08:19):
What we.

Speaker 1 (02:08:22):
Did not set up bro a little bit a little
were leading as a TV show.

Speaker 2 (02:08:27):
Now shout out to CBS, but we lead the TBS.
Just shout out to them. But they missed the bucket
and that ain't my nigga still big up to hold
on people. I forgot their name.

Speaker 1 (02:08:36):
No, we can't see you know, Greg hooked up audio
born Bigga went to the other side set.

Speaker 2 (02:08:45):
Let's go get spotifying.

Speaker 28 (02:08:47):
Bro that I oh my god, you're talking craziness. You
a little bit, just leave it out there, and they
mixed up up. That's drump facts. I love drum Trump facts.

Speaker 2 (02:09:04):
Donald's alternatives worse alternative fact.

Speaker 4 (02:09:11):
But I think a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (02:09:14):
You gotta relax.

Speaker 4 (02:09:19):
But listen, you know what it is.

Speaker 1 (02:09:20):
We're celebrating hip, were leading as a TV show. Now,
I know there's words out there. Charlemagne and Joe Budden's
trying to just revolt.

Speaker 2 (02:09:30):
In our interiom right now, they're not.

Speaker 1 (02:09:33):
They're not gonna see what we're gonna do. It will
volt you know what we're gonna do. We were taking
old I told I told Diddy.

Speaker 2 (02:09:39):
Relax, let us take care of this.

Speaker 1 (02:09:44):
We got but Charlamagne and Joe Buddens, we got love
for you. But we're gonna show you how powerful that
we're gonna work with these young people, these young and
they innovative at the Vault. They they they enthusiastic, They vigorous,
and that's just what we need. We are groundbreaking show
and we're gonna do go out and we won't have
motherfucking fun. People are sitting there and kind of blame

(02:10:05):
it on. Did this ain't did he? This ain't just
him like this? There's people like Derek Ferguson and with
Mom Dukes and he'm reading and Zach bags.

Speaker 2 (02:10:13):
Claimed, I don't know his last name. I just gave
him claim it felt right, felt that way, like that
way last name. That's not his nickname. I know what

(02:10:42):
Baggage clears the edits, so you know it's like he's
not editing, by the way, it's not you know, my
drunk sack. I thought it was him.

Speaker 4 (02:10:52):
I got the what's a dangerous show man? This is
a dangerous show.

Speaker 2 (02:10:58):
Celebrate hip hop?

Speaker 4 (02:11:02):
I mean by that by how your setup is.

Speaker 1 (02:11:04):
Yeah, we we it's dangerous. You're definitely us definitely want
you to say supposed to say.

Speaker 12 (02:11:09):
We do.

Speaker 2 (02:11:12):
But it's all in the celebration of hip because because
because you don't care, I can sometimes I can't.

Speaker 12 (02:11:20):
I care about this culture. Yeah, the coach individuals, maybe
not the questions. He said, Yeah, like, we want to
get it out of you. We want to get care
I want.

Speaker 2 (02:11:32):
You to feel good. To man, we want to feel good.

Speaker 4 (02:11:34):
That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (02:11:35):
I want you to feel like you.

Speaker 12 (02:11:38):
Do.

Speaker 3 (02:11:44):
And that's what I'm a d J, like like I'm
the I'm the unseen person. Like nobody gives a funk
about the d J. D J is the pinnacle hips, right,
we do care about.

Speaker 2 (02:11:56):
I'm shumid. No, no, I'm so humid, I'm so cumian.
My girl feels the same way when I get crazed,
I'm cubid. That's the DJ perspective as artists like that.
That was every DJ in the world. Somebody j now.

Speaker 28 (02:12:21):
IRE's nobody gives about the DJ.

Speaker 2 (02:12:25):
Don we give a look about I know, I know,
I know.

Speaker 4 (02:12:27):
It's very char I come from the era we'll matter.

Speaker 2 (02:12:31):
Yes, we come from the out here for this era
we matter.

Speaker 1 (02:12:36):
But nowadays this I par DJs though that's not a DJ.
It's not a DJ, but they have a DJ and
they name they have it Frank d J.

Speaker 8 (02:12:47):
Rubh's still skuing is out there with the it shouldn't
be DJ anybody he if you ain't looked cranks and
I'm not just in the digital DJ talking about it,
but looking thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (02:12:57):
Come on, that's some different. That's paying your dude, that's
some different. Dr create us doing demos, putting on dudes.

Speaker 1 (02:13:04):
There's no dudes paying you go SoundCloud is you.

Speaker 2 (02:13:06):
And you open?

Speaker 4 (02:13:08):
New artists can't have your interviews.

Speaker 2 (02:13:10):
Yeah you listen.

Speaker 1 (02:13:11):
Artist development is terrible for this new generation. These guys
gotta get up purposet.

Speaker 2 (02:13:16):
I don't think that development never chasing Miley purpose. They
gotta get off like yo yo yo, pum. So, how
have you doing? How do you like the game?

Speaker 4 (02:13:27):
It's cool?

Speaker 2 (02:13:29):
We Cory yo, yeah, yeah yeah? What Like I can't
tell you how you know Charlotte made is my friend?
I can't I seen an interview with one of the
new arts. I don't want to say that one of
the most popular artists and they they actually did like
it was on purpose set all.

Speaker 1 (02:13:50):
You can't do that you gotta sell like it's one thing,
that the music is one thing, but you gotta sell
yourself sure, like you know, that's why Angie Martinez was
important to the culture back then.

Speaker 2 (02:14:00):
Back then you do an interview with Angie Martinez, that
shit was.

Speaker 1 (02:14:03):
All over and we didn't have the Internet, but it
was all over and reached to certain people like.

Speaker 2 (02:14:08):
You do an interview with Flex, you do an interview
with DJ College.

Speaker 1 (02:14:11):
There was certain ones that went viral for that era,
but you actually had to have.

Speaker 2 (02:14:15):
Something to say that these kids are so drunk and
high now that they're.

Speaker 1 (02:14:19):
Drinking high and I'm still talking if it's a motherfucker
like there's no artist development, no more.

Speaker 2 (02:14:24):
Right, you finished it.

Speaker 4 (02:14:26):
We don't know how to be. You just gotta just
freestyle now, just we should think it's Coolna, we don't
got we don't, we don't have no we got history, stubborn.

Speaker 2 (02:14:36):
Like you're rich in history. Brother. If you don't know that,
you do nothing. Some of the richest history ever.

Speaker 4 (02:14:43):
You know what I'm saying. I'm blessed for that and
that's all if I if I gain nothing else from it, cool,
as long as I get love.

Speaker 2 (02:14:49):
And he's a part of a legacy and hip hop.

Speaker 4 (02:14:54):
Come on, as long as I get to do what
we do right here to sit around people amongst us,
cool with that?

Speaker 2 (02:15:00):
No, you know this is cool to you deep on
deep block. I'm throwing that in the air. There's too
much pressure just kissing.

Speaker 4 (02:15:08):
Never went to my brother right there, that's the pressure.

Speaker 2 (02:15:13):
I want to see that.

Speaker 4 (02:15:15):
You got me through this ship right now. That's my
that's my coach through this ship. Now, that's the that's
my be through this ship right now. This guy right that's.

Speaker 2 (02:15:26):
That's that's fact is in the building. How you doing so?
Like get bed got thicker?

Speaker 4 (02:15:31):
That's my that's my that's my bu through this That's
that's somebody you consider the top five of the best
of the best. And he was out of me. So
when I get that love and recollection from somebody like him,
he humbling himself to me, and I'm like, nigga, nah,
you my nigga, nigga you that he going, Nah, Nigga,
you don't don't challenge me to that. You be out

(02:15:54):
of me like you're you're top five, you're one of
them niggas.

Speaker 2 (02:15:57):
That's hard.

Speaker 6 (02:16:00):
On that.

Speaker 4 (02:16:00):
You know what I'm saying. That's my dog.

Speaker 2 (02:16:03):
That's cut that ship off.

Speaker 9 (02:16:05):
No, no.

Speaker 1 (02:16:09):
Realist compliment like you say that just said you knew
that's basically I look at that.

Speaker 2 (02:16:16):
That's hard.

Speaker 4 (02:16:17):
That's like kids.

Speaker 1 (02:16:19):
So as a person who swarred with jay Z right,
like you actually straighted bars and then now you went
to rock Nation. But that was the independent because rock
Nature giving out their independent deals. How is how is
you know bringing it all to fruition? Was it what
you thought it was?

Speaker 2 (02:16:36):
Actually I'm still I ain't signing my soul rock Nation yet? Wow?
I bother do mother?

Speaker 4 (02:16:44):
Mother?

Speaker 2 (02:16:44):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (02:16:45):
Mother?

Speaker 2 (02:16:47):
Is this no?

Speaker 24 (02:16:47):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:16:48):
No, no, this is just management management. I'm thinking I'm
not leaving major labels like they're gonna.

Speaker 1 (02:17:05):
Right, it's not meant so you know you're not leaving
the make sure you're gonna sign your soul on.

Speaker 2 (02:17:19):
Because Christy Christie is rock Nation. It's rock that's your manager.
She's the rock that you know. They done took y'all manager,
They don't know, but that's what they do. That's what
they do.

Speaker 17 (02:17:33):
When you they take they buy in the man. When
you say, if you go to rock Nation and you
I'll lead them to be over there too.

Speaker 2 (02:17:44):
Scoping So you can run your higher ship run. They
just behind it.

Speaker 4 (02:17:50):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (02:17:51):
You told me the best ship about Rock Nation.

Speaker 1 (02:17:53):
I can't blow it up because I don't know if
heause it's a private conversation.

Speaker 2 (02:17:56):
But he told me some great ship about rock.

Speaker 4 (02:17:59):
No, no, I'm not blow it up.

Speaker 2 (02:18:01):
I can't blow up. But it's beautiful, beautiful. It was
beautiful because O g one the shot big so whole.

Speaker 4 (02:18:09):
And yeah they say that there's no I don't know anybody.

Speaker 10 (02:18:19):
They say that, I gotta get to that building the
block's at but corporate, why not.

Speaker 2 (02:18:30):
Take that out of con't want to see this one there?
Quiet right, right right? But so big? So are we
ending it on big enough? Rock Nation?

Speaker 4 (02:18:38):
Is that a big thing ship? Ship?

Speaker 2 (02:18:43):
Yeah? Respect them, I respect them, I respect them. Selected
who recently been bigger selected rock Nation?

Speaker 4 (02:18:52):
Yeah, it's all about progressing man, anything to make the
game bigger than the feed the people that deserve to
be fed. How can we hate that? I can't you
hear somebody? Yeah, I can't hate that man. Anybody that's progressing,
man that you respect, that came from error or beyond
or after. You can't shoot nothing down like that. Anything

(02:19:12):
for us to progress while we why we got to
shoot that. Damn that'solute that and and have fun to
that and celebrate to that that.

Speaker 10 (02:19:22):
What were you about to say with with jay z No,
I'm just saying because he always got to know because
that was real, Like like at the end.

Speaker 2 (02:19:37):
Of the day, how did that even start? I don't
even know because I was outside.

Speaker 4 (02:19:42):
Looking in like, oh man, man, I'm about to learn
some history.

Speaker 2 (02:19:47):
So you ask me, this is like a story that
I need to hear.

Speaker 4 (02:19:55):
You.

Speaker 17 (02:19:57):
Steve Stout was doing something like both Sides of Defense Ship.
I think he was, because he started to say he
was doing that with nasen Hole too.

Speaker 2 (02:20:06):
Oh he didn't think he was gonna get that series
and they got. I mean, it wasn't it wasn't really.

Speaker 17 (02:20:12):
Serious, but you know, you know, but yeah, but you
know at the time he was doing he was remixing
everything I was doing.

Speaker 2 (02:20:20):
You remember that, like the Maya song.

Speaker 17 (02:20:23):
I was on the original one, then he came with
the other one, Fiesta.

Speaker 14 (02:20:29):
I was on original Fiesta and he came with the
Phoenix Fiesta.

Speaker 1 (02:20:33):
It was just like it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (02:20:36):
He wasn't saying nothing about me. He was just just
the fact that it was why was he doing everything? Really?
I mean, you know in Stout was setting me up
with the joint with the then set him up with
You know what I'm saying. I think that was the
competitive nature of our ever coming up. It wasn't so

(02:20:57):
wishy washy and fortune and all that. Yeah, it wasn't
It wasn't beat it was bars. It was it wasn't
no beat bars those bars. He can laughing.

Speaker 4 (02:21:10):
And you're trying to catch the wave to everything that's
going on. So whoever jump on.

Speaker 2 (02:21:14):
Niggas because the big and j star as like a
competitive but well, what I would say in that he
wasn't scared though anyway. Like now it's more I bow
down to nobody, but I bow down there supposed to
bowl down. Now anybody bow down to anybody. Niggas don't

(02:21:35):
deserve him. But explain, no, ja explain that there's no balance.
You don't understand what you mean by that. It was
more competitive, e f n. It was more like the
whole was whole. We was the locks.

Speaker 4 (02:21:48):
He probably know what you bowed down?

Speaker 2 (02:21:51):
Who would you still trying to We ain't looking at success.
We looking at were trying to go through.

Speaker 16 (02:22:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (02:22:01):
Now accolades and money and accomplishments will get you a
bow quick.

Speaker 2 (02:22:07):
And then you have been saying, if you could knock
this nigga out just because he got it rolling on it,
you gotta shock ge, you.

Speaker 4 (02:22:13):
Gotta got.

Speaker 2 (02:22:17):
Because you got a shocked he gotta roll.

Speaker 17 (02:22:20):
That was that's just a comparison to us from our
era to to what's going on now.

Speaker 2 (02:22:26):
Let's getting around a.

Speaker 17 (02:22:30):
Certain you couldn't even get in a certain studio with
them type of niggas.

Speaker 2 (02:22:36):
If you wasn't one of the niggas studio the studio,
you couldn't no phone ship.

Speaker 17 (02:22:47):
I had a three fifty seven on me when I
went to do right where you're standing for prem O
and Guru.

Speaker 4 (02:22:56):
Indeed, yeah, because I was going to he had rat
he roases.

Speaker 2 (02:23:02):
It's a dog a fact. The studio to make a
song with you might not make it hold. She was
a hole in the wall. You've been right that she
didn't show you know that fifty seven.

Speaker 17 (02:23:22):
I went to D and D with all the years
and did that song with rolled number, the same three
fifty seven.

Speaker 2 (02:23:28):
Rose Wood got knocked with Let's make some Noise. Yeah,
but it took. It was everywhere. It was a it
was a machine.

Speaker 1 (02:23:40):
It was a machine that had bellies, old English.

Speaker 4 (02:23:46):
Machine man machine.

Speaker 2 (02:23:48):
She was heading the condo was ship dog that what
what burrows in it? It's an.

Speaker 17 (02:24:02):
More thing after that and turned it in the headquarters,
rested headquarters.

Speaker 2 (02:24:05):
This man that got and then they took it's no
longer then no more now that's what was prime real estate.
It wasn't in like the hood. It was down down
the hood cremo like I thought. I thought that ship
was crim.

Speaker 4 (02:24:22):
Hell no that it was all the way down.

Speaker 2 (02:24:27):
Tunnel, but it was hip hop.

Speaker 4 (02:24:30):
You going that ship everything you're going there.

Speaker 17 (02:24:32):
We was actually making our demo. And then when Hope
was doing reasonable down that's why we got history. We
was to see him in there playing pool and we
were making the demo. He was making reasons wow.

Speaker 4 (02:24:45):
And that's what that's what makes our r special. That's
why that's my favorite ever Else studios, New Niggas don't
know about what we went through.

Speaker 1 (02:24:52):
Man, when I don't know what, I don't know what,
uh uh, but it was it was like for like
two months. Big used to rent sound on sound you
remember sound Sounds forty fifth Street, and Big would have
upstairs and me and Pharrell would have down.

Speaker 2 (02:25:09):
That was a quiet studio.

Speaker 4 (02:25:12):
Run around.

Speaker 1 (02:25:13):
The biggie was upstairs and I was downstairs, my nigga,
I kid.

Speaker 2 (02:25:17):
You not with for real Farrell from me on to
the joint. That's why I.

Speaker 1 (02:25:22):
Still like bugging that Pharrell never had did a joint
for Big, because I was I spent two months at
least in the studio sound sound right the corner from
Bad Boy, I like, and it.

Speaker 2 (02:25:33):
Was it was just quiet. Though it's only two.

Speaker 4 (02:25:36):
You come in there, it's like a hound glass and
floor and I had downstairs, didn't have a mile and
that ship was no bad studio. Yes that's a million
come through that where he couldn't have no rooms in
his studio. It was that studio around the corner.

Speaker 2 (02:25:49):
And I think Big started liking it because he was
like he couldn't see nobody to come.

Speaker 24 (02:25:56):
On.

Speaker 2 (02:25:56):
The other niggas that I had was.

Speaker 13 (02:25:58):
Palking lot like barking lot right nice street ship.

Speaker 4 (02:26:03):
Nobody know you in there? Yeah you in the strip
club was.

Speaker 2 (02:26:07):
Right next to it too. We got to relax. White Spot,
the spot, White Spot. I used to go in there,
Assault Spot. It was nice.

Speaker 1 (02:26:15):
It was not let me like you got y'all got
my lighter. One of y'all foul. One of y'all got
my lighter. I'm just gonna throw that out there.

Speaker 4 (02:26:21):
It's right in front of it was one of y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:26:26):
It was the other Verson in my mind, yo.

Speaker 4 (02:26:28):
But listen, this is old rap ship right.

Speaker 6 (02:26:31):
No.

Speaker 2 (02:26:32):
But you know what, these fans love it because you know.

Speaker 4 (02:26:33):
Why I should get drunk like i't.

Speaker 1 (02:26:36):
You know why these fans love it because the thing
about it is we'd be sitting around thinking that they
don't care about the era cause and we're living proof.
We hit twenty five million and that and that was
four months ago, so that lets you know that they
actually do care.

Speaker 2 (02:26:51):
They just want to learn.

Speaker 1 (02:26:52):
They need a platform to learn from that school, and
that's what the platform they learn from.

Speaker 2 (02:26:57):
They be educated.

Speaker 1 (02:26:58):
They get drunk, they smoke some weed, and we talked
to ship and we have fun man and little seeds.

Speaker 2 (02:27:04):
You needed to be celebrated in hip hop. That's what
we did today. And Jaya Kiss came to help out.

Speaker 4 (02:27:10):
Jay Kiss Wet.

Speaker 2 (02:27:16):
Jason Kiss came to about and drink chance. If you
ain't getting some in the world.

Speaker 1 (02:27:22):
Congratulations to you, thank you, but it's about you today,
I'm gonna let you know. If you ain't getting congratulated
anywhere else in the world, I'll said drink chances. We
continue to support our that we give our people. They
flowers when they can smell them, and we smoke trees
with them when they can. In hell, No, we ain't
gonna beig you when you pass away, you go away.

Speaker 2 (02:27:44):
You hear that we're gonna beg you now.

Speaker 4 (02:27:49):
Going You can't do that like.

Speaker 1 (02:27:54):
Too, Yes, man, h we gotta celebrate our legends.

Speaker 2 (02:27:58):
This is my friend.

Speaker 4 (02:27:59):
This one show he plays.

Speaker 1 (02:28:03):
Doesn't like the m P three ships because he's really
the real He wants to go on there with Crates and.

Speaker 12 (02:28:12):
For it.

Speaker 2 (02:28:15):
I got my craz but I'm not going.

Speaker 1 (02:28:17):
But listen, he's from the real hip hop. That's the
real essence of hip hop. The whole time I did.

Speaker 2 (02:28:22):
All your motherfucker's records. Yes, and he's street team show
in Miami. Tell him off. I got to relax. Yeah,
and Big poured me a glass of champagne. Cool, coolest
motherfucker I ever world.

Speaker 6 (02:28:38):
Just know.

Speaker 2 (02:28:45):
No, No, I don't see it as a story. It's
not that sorry.

Speaker 4 (02:28:49):
I was just talking to you for two hours.

Speaker 28 (02:28:52):
You don't say nothing the story story, understand.

Speaker 2 (02:28:58):
I always tell people. I was like, I was there.
I was spinning the party. You saw me the first
mafia in Miami at all that club, honestly, and he
decided to bring it up. Then why you just saying
he break down the story you all? I'm saying is
what happened. I was VI I P wasn't really VI P,

(02:29:20):
so in VI I P and bigs there he had.
He was probing mass champagne. We never drink champagne back then.
And then he's just like, man, you want a cup.
I'm like sure, Marian. He poured it and I was like,
just hello, cool bro. And that's a big story. That's it.
It's not that crazy. It's not jumping on the way

(02:29:45):
people happened to cool. Big has always been the coolest guy. No, no,
big ahead, let me. He was there, like that's a
crazy ship like that. It was then he was there
for them, and I could see it. I was like,
he don't need to do this for them. He was

(02:30:06):
there for them. I gotta have you got a big
story's story. I mean, you're blowing up too much when
you when you got a big story, say it's not
a story. I mean, that's my story, Big, That's the

(02:30:27):
only that's the best story. By the way, that was
one of the best.

Speaker 4 (02:30:31):
Stories, the big stories. Man.

Speaker 2 (02:30:34):
The Big was one of the coolest.

Speaker 4 (02:30:37):
Plant niggas in the world. I missed that nigga. He
was like you know what I mean, he was really
like a cool nigga, hip hop nigga. He embraced niggas.

Speaker 2 (02:30:46):
That was dope, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:30:47):
He he was just like he taught me everything about
this music ship like this, I'm everything that he was.
You know what I'm saying. That's who I mimiced. I
wanted to be like that nigga that he was that yeah,
I wanted to be like him. I thought he was
the coolest nigga on earth, you know what I'm saying. Like,
and the only thing he did was introduce me to
this type of ship. It's like the world, you know

(02:31:09):
what I'm saying. So I just try to embrace it.
And he was a music had dog. He embraced it.
He loved all this ship right here, Like you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:31:17):
He would have did drink Champs. He would drink this ship.
I would have went seven hundred hours. It's funny too,
but he would.

Speaker 4 (02:31:32):
Have loved this type of show.

Speaker 2 (02:31:34):
He was cool like that.

Speaker 4 (02:31:36):
On ship like this. He liked to get high and
bug out. This is this regular ship.

Speaker 2 (02:31:40):
I think Big would have permitted his new single just
Drink Champs.

Speaker 4 (02:31:49):
He said, hell yeah, he would have definitely did that.
He would definitely with this type of show.

Speaker 2 (02:31:54):
Little Seas.

Speaker 1 (02:31:54):
I can't thank you enough, Jada Kiss. I can't thank
you enough to thank you, Jada Kiss. You really support
Drink Champs.

Speaker 2 (02:32:01):
I think you own it.

Speaker 29 (02:32:01):
On the spread, the Room, the light wing Man, the room,
the room with Jada Kiss gave us part owner.

Speaker 2 (02:32:15):
Spreading.

Speaker 4 (02:32:16):
You know what I'm saying on the in the business,
what's about on some humble ship, not even the music ship,
just on.

Speaker 1 (02:32:24):
Some real, real person type of kids the other day
for six hours and it was crazy, like we got
a dog like that, he'll go.

Speaker 2 (02:32:33):
With you for six hours. So much respect for you, man, But.

Speaker 1 (02:32:43):
Look it was crazy because at some point I was like,
I think we should have security because.

Speaker 2 (02:32:48):
It was like it was like he got some wild fans.
I got some wild fan and the street. I'm trying
to book him that all the time. Man, get you yeah,
I feel like we got a nigga security kids. I
feel like we got a little bit, a little bit,
a little bit might right, a little bit, a little bit.
We gotta grow up. But little citys I can't thank

(02:33:10):
good enough.

Speaker 4 (02:33:11):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:33:12):
Listen, man, hip hop gotta continue to celebrate our legends.
We got give them their flowers, they give them the
trees where they can help them. And the thing about
it is, so many other generations, so many other people rock.
You know, the rolling stones get older, they're going tall,
they do it. Why hip hop we can't do that.
You know why hip hop can't do it because we
didn't have drink champs, and drink champs are gonna celebrate.

(02:33:33):
Continue to salute people that the older you get, the
black of the very sweeted, the juice, you know, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:33:40):
But no need to explain the drunk of the merrier.

Speaker 4 (02:33:52):
We got you deserve, we got we got sposed to
get this.

Speaker 1 (02:33:57):
We gotta continue to support ours because sometimes we forget
like that shit. Don't take me, no it, don't take it.
Don't take no money out of my pocket to say,
Jada kisses a real Nigga to be supported every project
and the Locks and everybody and Little CS and d
Rock and Little Kim and Foxy Brown Nas and a

(02:34:19):
z and uh Rappernoid and marb Deep and it don't
it don't cost me nothing to say that, you know
what these guys came through the era of his Mind's
not like you know, I might look at it as
the best ever, but if you.

Speaker 2 (02:34:31):
Don't look at it the best ever, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (02:34:33):
It's all legends for support the people that came in
for a little Uzi Verdon, for a little yachtis and
for a little Yaan Kazi's and.

Speaker 26 (02:34:42):
And you know what I'm saying, don't I'm trying to
sign him Yama Kazi. Come on, gaziie.

Speaker 2 (02:34:57):
Can claim.

Speaker 13 (02:35:05):
You gotta make.

Speaker 1 (02:35:06):
Nooyse And zach Magus claims an execulate.

Speaker 2 (02:35:11):
Face that was his real name exact what I don't know,
don't know what's last I don't know what's last name?
Instructor slop slop, what saxt name? Where slove that? Nobody
you know that nigga?

Speaker 6 (02:35:29):
Laugh?

Speaker 2 (02:35:30):
Shut up to Zack from a what Zack is about
to be the Ellis rapper ever?

Speaker 1 (02:35:37):
Yeah? Yo?

Speaker 8 (02:35:39):
Cool?

Speaker 18 (02:35:41):
They gotta react. We still gotta relax you Twins. Still yo, yo, Twin.
We love you, you know, we got you.

Speaker 2 (02:35:53):
We love you, brother.

Speaker 1 (02:35:55):
Yes, that's right, baby, And we're gonna train Diego because
we're gonna get you on the road too.

Speaker 2 (02:36:01):
You know what I'm saying. Up once again, Damn she
wanna be birthday?

Speaker 18 (02:36:07):
He ain't.

Speaker 2 (02:36:07):
What's your interview? And you sober today? Right? Come over here,
come over here, so over on your birthday.

Speaker 1 (02:36:13):
We were proud of you. Come over here, Diego. What's
your Instagram? Shout him out?

Speaker 4 (02:36:17):
Don diego four twenty.

Speaker 1 (02:36:19):
Your p o going head, that's out there, no doubt,
I'm out of get your Come over here, Twin. You
gotta get to your mike. Nobody hear you. Then come
over here, Come on man, come through, Come on here.
For everybody that's drink chance family. You know, Twin has
been with us from the day one. He's our fucking brother.

(02:36:41):
Do you know what I'm saying. He got into an accident.

Speaker 2 (02:36:45):
We don't care.

Speaker 1 (02:36:46):
We're holding him down the same way We're gonna hold
him down before the accident, and we're gonna hold him
down after an accident.

Speaker 4 (02:36:51):
And he knows that.

Speaker 2 (02:36:52):
Yeah, twins don't.

Speaker 22 (02:36:57):
Drink chance family, man. I appreciate the support man. The
fans is loyal, man. I'm in therapy every day, grinding,
and they just showed me mad love talking people from
like Pakistan. I've had people from Yo, like the Netherlands.

Speaker 2 (02:37:12):
Like it's crazy, It's like worldwide.

Speaker 22 (02:37:14):
The love is real, man, because all it is this show,
this show is authentic.

Speaker 2 (02:37:19):
We are ourselves, you know what I'm saying. Look how
far it got us?

Speaker 4 (02:37:24):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (02:37:25):
This is amazing. I'm so blessed to be here. I'm
so happy to be here. Man. I'm still eating as
I'm just on the chair. You feel you, Yeah, I

(02:37:51):
feel like you, definitely.

Speaker 4 (02:37:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:37:52):
I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest with you.
See you gotta eat the booty like groceries. Once.

Speaker 4 (02:38:06):
No, no, it is the way everything I believe you.

Speaker 2 (02:38:12):
Got. Your face says it nice, broken friend, I swear honest,
yeah a dirty no.

Speaker 16 (02:38:32):
Sure maybe once. I don't remember. I looked around. I
looked around, y'all. I'm gonna be honest. I licked around, y'all.
Know what when I went there, I was like, WHOA,
you're looking around it penny.

Speaker 2 (02:38:47):
I gotta call listen, makes your loo for a little.
It takes like a penny. You got joe see see
it tastes like a penny, right, It tastes like a penny.
It's a joy. And he's like Joey, he's aging. It's
what he's like, a good.

Speaker 21 (02:39:12):
And that is done.

Speaker 2 (02:39:14):
I come, I'm gonna drop. It's gonna expectures to drop.

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