#Throwback Episode - w/ Mysonne & Chi Ali | (Ep.78) - Drink Champs

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(01:58):
we said that.

Speaker 6 (01:59):
We want to give love to our legends.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
We want to give love to people.

Speaker 6 (02:05):
That sometimes has been forgotten about or sometimes because you
get to a certain level or you do so much
things people say but that's.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
In hip hop. We got to change that. We actually
Rolling Stones goes on tour right now. What's the nigga
name them?

Speaker 6 (02:29):
Niggas they go on tour right now, why is hip
hop not celebrated in the same exact way. The older
you get and then you know what the crazy shit is.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
The older you get, they accept you more in Europe.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Like in Europe, but this is the birthplace of hip hop.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
So right now, I am so privileged, so happy to
big up two brothers that I want to put in
the hip Hop Hall of Fame me personally, because I
feel like hip hop needs a Hall of fame.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Fuck this rock and roll Hall of Fame. Bullshit, We
ain't rock and roll.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
We gotta relax, even though even though even though it
is it is actually like it is like like a
big up to be in a rock and roll all
but we said with Russell, holler at me, Russell, because
I feel like we should do a hip hop Hall
of Fame. And if the hip hop Hall of Fame,
what's to happen these two brothers.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
This is right here from the Bronx, because I'm gonna
have a Bronx. Guy. I know the world don't know
that we're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna, we'renna establish that today.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
These two brothers chi LEI first off the first child
star in hip hop period period.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I've seen this man come up. I thought it was
quart of weekend. In my mind, you're not good here.
I don't know what. You're not good here. I don't know,
I don't know. You definitely make some way. I'm gonna
get to that.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
And then this other brother that stay right outside me,
to the right of me. I see his hunger, I
seen his struggle. I seen him battle artist on the street.
Then I seen him have an unfortunate situation and he
never complained about it. And that's one of the most
beautifulest things is that you could have complained about it,

(04:19):
and you could have been like, fuck, it could have
been better, but you didn't.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
And you know what, Chili and my song is.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Nothing else I would love to do is to big
y'all brothers up right.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Now and R drink chaff DJ. I gotta get I
gotta go straight to you because.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
I don't want to say controversy, but I want to
say that.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
It has been a recent interview.

Speaker 6 (04:51):
Right A brother says something and you re buddled that statement.
But the most be the fust thing about what you
did was you never hated.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
You just was honest and you spoke your.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Opinion and real niggas world why.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Text each other and say you see mice. I don't
know if you got to text and I got to text.
So what I want to ask you is what made
you take that stand because you don't have to do that.
It just you know, like you said, man, real niggas worldwide.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
I think like people keep saying real Niggas is back,
and like we was having a conversation, like we never
really went nowhere. But the problem is is that most
of us are silent. We just don't even see the
need to check you that we know it's fake because
we don't realize that the rest of the world don't.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Know it's fake. You're right because they've been fed fake
shit so long that they've it's real.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
So me watching this and then actually you reading comments
and people are like, Yo, this is the really ship
you And I'm reading this and I'm like, how could
this like what is real about this to you? Like
somewhere somewhere along the way there's been some type of
the translation got sucked up. For what really translation the
real translation is fucked up.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
So I felt like being PM, I got fun job
to stop you. But what's that a real Champagne Nigga
ship right there? Not a spell, not all.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Didn't look at the grap look at the graph that
you know, I've been a pais, you know, continued, I'm
so sorry.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
That was a big myself. You know, for a second
I thought I thought I was gonna do that. We
need Yes, it's called you got to learn this and
you can't bring.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
You about it because you know what the most important
part about it was, Mice.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Was I looked in your eyes, looked at your face,
and I looked at every time you spoke, and it
was not hate. This was not hate.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
But that's that's the new word for you just expressing
some ship when you're not when you go against the
status disagreement, when you disagree that it's just the dumbest
shit in the world. I asked people like you hate
you hating, And I'm like, okay, so what are you
doing when you coming on what I'm saying. You have
an opinion about what I say, and you have the
right to express that. I don't think you hating. You

(07:53):
got your opinion. You don't even know me, never see
me a day in life. But something I said made
you feel like you needed to respond. So why you
feel someway about me feeling the same way you.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Feel, That's because of the platform that you're doing. That's
what the thing is.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
The platform that I'm doing makes me more valid because
I actually know the people I'm talking about. I actually
have interacted, I actually know what I'm dealing with. You
just coming on here, never seen me, never met me,
don't know nothing about me, and you have an opinion
about me. You understand what I'm saying, So that's just
it's just it's a it's a smoke screen. You understand

(08:27):
I'm saying. People don't want to be checked on shit,
So you know, it becomes you hate. I hate this
when you don't have a you don't even have a
reason for something. But like, yo, you like this, but
not why not?

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I don't know. I just don't like it.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Now, that's now I can see why, because you can't
even give me a reason why you don't need something.
But when I can tell you, no, no, I don't
like it because it don't sound good, it don't look good,
I don't like the color, it don't fit me right,
Like I'm giving you a reason now whether you agree
with my reason.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
That's up to you. That's up to you, but it
ain't no hat. This is actually just me giving your opinion,
and that's who we we get teen it on.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
I think a lot of real quote unquote real niggas
don't even want to deal with that, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
They just say theyself, you know what I know.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Real If y'all want to believe that shit, cool, but
they don't understand. It's like being in jail in a
fake nigga come in the house, right he hes squirrel
the niggas and you like, I'm just gonna stay in
my cue.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
He got about twenty five minutes.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
You know what I'm saying, But if the real niggas
didn't start checking him, the rest of the fake niggas
start coming.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
And next to you allow your cue because.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
These niggas done took over the day room all type
of shit, because now you don't allow them to do that.
So it's like at the same in jail nigga walk in. Look,
this is how we run this house.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Here.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
You can't do you do that bozo shit. You gotta
get out of here. And that's how we got to
do a hip hop again, I forget you know what
I'm saying. We gotta start checking niggas because now now.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
We follow us.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
You know, before we was young and we just now
we father us and our kids start questioning us. Were like, Dad,
you're not like such and such as world. He's like,
what that ain't even No, no, no, no, I'm not gonna
let y'all do that none, because y'all haven't.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
When y'all have that.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Platform, y'all have a control over what goes on the
whole culture.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Absolutely, so I can't allow your cancers did infect the culture,
not on my watch.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
You know what, hip hop appreciate you. Real niggas appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (10:12):
And just in life, everybody should appreciate your stance that
you took because mind you, I'm a part of the
new generation too, like I go to the.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Clubs, I like, I love egos, sous bad.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
But now so now, Ali.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
Chi Ali, you're one of the very fortunate people that
actually you look twenty years old.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
The grades a lot.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
Your name should be baby Face, but you're one of
the very fortunate people that actually been around for the
real era of hip hop, like you actually was there,
so for you to see how the era of hip
hop went from then to now.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Like I don't even know my question. That's like me
the way the coaches team.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
It doesn't upset me, I don't think as much as
it upsets a lot of the A lot of my
PIDs young okay, our generation, the older.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
The old generation.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
And for me, a lot of it is because I
think cause I got kids. So it's just like I'm
entwined with the new sound. But a lot of it
is when we was young and I was listening to
Running the Fat Boys, like my pops will buy it
for me. But you know, sometimes it was cut that
ship down, and sometimes I know he didn't think.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Thirty forty years later, this was what it was going
to be, right because they all say it's a fan
Oh that's not music. They said, we sound like them now, damn.
You know what I'm saying, we saund like this. Niggas
ain't hip hop here. It's just a new kids. They kids,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Think about it like Mike said, my son eighteen, my
daughter eighteen, God blessed. Like you know what I'm saying,
He what's popping now? So every some of the ship
they do we're gonna see and be like I ain't
something we're gonna be like.

Speaker 6 (12:05):
But but that was kind of like how it was
back then, because I mean, like when people say that
the era was golden or it was classic, a lot
of people a lot of times people don't actually focus
on the fact that it was rock music.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Then, Yeah it wasn't everybody wasn't getting paid. But I
don't like and what you addressed to when when you
first saw the speaking was that the new generation a
lot of them, not that they don't pay homage, but
it's like they don't even know, like like how you
not this is your your feel Like if I'm a

(12:38):
baseball player, I'm gonna know something about Jackie Robinson Winfield.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
You know what I'm saying. Whatever you feel, Yeah, come on,
like that's our generation's fault. We dropped it. You can't
tell them. You got to go about it.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
And it's crazy because, like you said, the rolling so
they can still do shows, but forefathers is they washed up?

Speaker 1 (13:02):
You know what I mean? That's what That's why we
mice did the show when needed.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
To join the bb KS and cool Hert was there
like like I was I brought a cool, cool her
came out and I was like, yo, you know, brought
them out because that's cool.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Hurt, that's fucking cool, that's cool. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (13:21):
He wouldn't be here if it was staying hell of hurt.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
I ain't got a million dollars or at least five
hundred thousand dollars in his bank account, Like I wish
y'all had it to be like here, you know what
I'm saying. But some of our leaders in hip hop
got it.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Man. We got to make sure some of our brothers
is all right. I got you know, you know, you
know what the crazy like. That's like, I'm so up
and I love.

Speaker 6 (13:46):
A brother man, And I'm so sorry to bring this up.
But since me and my partner DJ e f N
started this podcast, we wanted to start something called a
hip hop.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Union, which means my song had that same case back then.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
And we look at Mice and say, Mice said he
ain't do it.

Speaker 6 (14:07):
Did somebody in place to pay for your lawyer, pay
for your case, pay for everything?

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Right?

Speaker 3 (14:13):
So I did all of it, all these not here.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Okay, I'm keeping it right now. Okay, can you put
that over there? It was a good self ramps. Right.
So the other day, right, my wife, I loved this woman.

Speaker 6 (14:30):
We went to Mallyd work the first time I ever
rented a house myself. Every time I ever rented a house,
it was always been a death jam Tommy boy. It
never was me. So when I went at this house.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
I walked outside the house because we had ordered the
car service and said it would be twenty minutes.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
So I came downstairs because I.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Had like four bunts and I was like, I gotta
smoke theseus right here. So I smoked them and the
driver came up in two minutes, and when it came
I said, yo, like, I looked at the shit.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
It's supposed to be twenty minutes.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
He said to me, oh, no, I just dropped off,
picked up or saw somebody in the rehab in Maliblee.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Right.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
So when he said that, you know, naturally I'm smoking.
So I wanted to walk away from him because I
ain't want to be disrespectful and be getting high. I
don't know if he's a recovering whatever, but he said
he said so to bring back my point, as I'm
trying to tell you, was the other.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Day DMX my brother. I love that nigga. He's always
been there for me. He never lied to me. When
people seen him on the Barclay stage and people seen
his rants, people.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
Judged him without wanting it to help. I immediately wanted
to help, so I said I wanted to. But if
I do it, or I stepped in, he's gonna.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Spit at me. I noticed, thinker, yo, what, no, who
the fuck you think you are? That's what you're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
But if we had a hip hop union in place
where we sit back and we say, Okay, the dog
don't look great, release the brand, absolutely, and the reason
why I bring it up is and I don't want
to blow it up, but he's actually a malleable right now.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
That's where he's at.

Speaker 6 (16:31):
But the problem was I didn't have a position to
step up.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
I didn't have a position to step up and say whatever.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Because if it was just me, I'm gonna be honest
with you, they would have all said fuck you.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
They would have loved the actual fact that I stepped up,
but then they would have said, what the fuck does
he think he is?

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Do y'all agree that we need a hip hop union? Definitely?

Speaker 3 (16:59):
And especially like we're brothers, like cool, the real fun,
the real forefathers.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
More so because the money wasn't there.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
It was not so it wasn't like they had it
and blew and ran through it.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
They was getting jerked. It wasn't there. And then what
was there they was? They was booking them, you know
what I mean. So you gotta tell people what booking means.
They was Robb He's like one of them that New

(17:38):
York I say.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
So, it's like, yo, a lot of them didn't, didn't
never had the bread where we're ex you know, excellent,
ran through some bread.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
But even with people like X, Like when I was
locked up on me, I see so many brothers.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Look at the crackheads, and nobody was smoked cracking jail.
Everybody was getting money. You know, everybody just smoked weed.
But it's like I used to tell nigga, Yo, haf
this year, all just running around with cuts on your
faces from weed beefs.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
If you fucking smoke weed, drink liquor, drink coffee, any
any moved changing, nigga, you ain't got the right to
judge nobody. His ship just might be a little more crucial.
Some ship is a little more serious. Too much to
criticize anybody, anybody drink.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I don't want to hear you talk about my weed.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Nigga had nothing unless you don't do nothing, leave me alone, man.
And just we got to like you said, we got
to help the brother. No, you know, you know what
the thing is. The thing is hip hop.

Speaker 6 (18:34):
Has to start accepting our responsibility.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
We gotta grow up. Grow much money made hip hop
to you still just bet you were supposed to. Hip
hop alone could finance all our communities, like the whole
black movement.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
It can finance. That's deep. Like really, if all the
hip hop niggas said.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Down and say, look, okay you from the left, we
buy it back left right, we're gonna own all of them.
We're gonna put all listen to you, We're gonna buy that.
But like we can literally do that ship. But nobody
here's a crazy ship is nice. All we need is
to take one percent of our profits. We donig We
don't niggas take their jewelry. The jewelry because because because like.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
I'm sorry, let me get to because you know why,
that's the best in the.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
World depends rocket is the best back in the world.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, you you you're gonna be guy from Miami.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Miami, I mean originally like, yeah, why are you gonna fight?

Speaker 8 (19:48):
You got like the same kind of hair my family because.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
My grandfather you had good hair for a long time.

Speaker 7 (19:59):
You know, you ain't just you ain't just have good
here yesterday like you've been had. Watch this nigga here
is nice. But you West Indian. We always claimed in
the part of winking on clubs man. Well you know
we were wrong.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
We were.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
And my wife thinks she bought a rigod I'll be
teasing that she's from Salvador.

Speaker 9 (20:30):
So she thres, you have to see him, black girl.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
She's the Kings anybody from the Salvadot you you see
that come up.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
So so now let's let's let's just bring it back
to hip hop. You want this was tracing. This is
what I trace.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah, Jimmy told me that Jim Jones, know, Jimmy, Jimmy
Boss Cafe.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
Let's make so much a jump Boss Cafe last it.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
He said, that's how I do it. I put some
cel in it. Selza, he's still doing it.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
I can't believe I thought it would have been over
by now because a lot of people died of Jimmy's Cafe.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Died Listen. I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
I seen niggas get beat the funk up in Jimmy's Cafe,
Like like they.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Beat you up and then they chill. That's the craziest.
They beat you up and then they have a dream
with you after that. That was hard. Like and queens,
it's like, yo, you get beat up. You got the
club one of the Bronx.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
They beat you up and then they pick you up
and see are you okay?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
And then they make sure you're good. That's the only
place I've ever seen that.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Now, the Bronx being the birthplace of hip hop, the
fact that we got a bug.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
We got.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
What's what.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
About, say, Dawn, that's you know, I'm don q a
don q.

Speaker 6 (22:00):
Other than that, it hasn't ever bothered you that the
Bronx wasn't at the froe.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Front of hip hop.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
I mean, of course, it not really bothered me, but
it was like that was one of my goals, like
we got to put the Bronx back on the back,
you know what I'm saying, Like I gotta put the
Bronx back on the map.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
So when you watch and you see.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
A boogiey and them doing anything, you see donkey and
I'm actually being from the hood, you know what I'm saying,
Young boys from the hood.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
From Okay, you know what I'm saying. So actually they
remember where we shot the video. They look right from
right down the you know that. So they're actually from
the hood.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
So watching young boys win, you know what I'm saying,
You got nothing to do with root for them, you know.
So it's happy. It's good to see that. It's good
to see the resurgence of just content and lyrics. You know,
you see Davies like you hear all this actually is day,
you know what I'm saying, Like you hear people rapping again,
It's good to do that. Like like I like migos,

(22:52):
I like all that. You feel hell yet like that
sh makes you you be like this, you know what
I'm saying, you being the club Christi, CHRISTI. The quality
is good. It's good music. You can't take nothing away
from it. But every now and then I want to
hear some ship that make me like, damn, I get
a little that make.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
You want to tie your shoe.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
You're saying, don't play them, I'm saying, instead of playing
them twenty times a day.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Play I'm like, you.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Know what I'm saying, and you know, spread some love,
Like I stay in Maryland, but you know I'm closer
to d C. So I'm you know, I run around
to d C close and homie like I don't even
know a bogie and them only, but but I know
that state. They from my homie hood. They be his son,
They be with his little brothers when they ship. Come on,

(23:38):
I go crazy with with.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
All New York niggas. Shit, come on period, especially niggas
I fuck with. It's just a different viot.

Speaker 6 (23:45):
It's different all the way up came out. I used
to go to every fucking club and it was like
it was like me.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
It was like right out here.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
I be feeling like that's how we gotta do it
in you know, I sweart like it's so genuine.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
When I'm reposting nigga shit, I don't even know whoether.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
I only follow people I know, or I might follow
your man because we all here. So if I see
something I like it and I'm reposting it, you ain't
got the eggs.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Like it's just I don't know why we we we
just don't don't show up. But it don't make like
I get a crazy good energy.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
When my nigga shit come on down there, yo.

Speaker 6 (24:22):
And that's why we started this, is because we want
to give our legends flowers when they can smell them,
and trees when they can inhale them. Because so many
people are fucking lost. So many people say that you
washed up when you got ten years in this game.
So many people say that you're not the guy because
the other guy is the guy.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
That is.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Some people say that we haven't changed against money. Sometimes, yeah,
niggas be dead wrong. You know what it is.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
We have to change that because one day I was
in Live Nation. Right at Live Nation, I looked at.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
It the roster.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
They had nothing more white boy, he's doing sixty dates,
all this shit, and he was all older than me.
And I looked and I said, damn, why can't hip
hop do that?

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Why?

Speaker 3 (25:12):
And then you know, you know, I call, I called
from master Flex, and you know, and I don't know
how anybody feel about from master Flex personally, but I'm
gonna tell you how much I.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Feel about for Master Flex. From master Flex said, fuck that, Nori,
and I was like, what the fuck? What?

Speaker 3 (25:28):
I was like, we gotta make it so our artists
could do at least fourteen dates on their own New
York artists, right, And.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
At first I said flex word.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
And then he said And then I turned on the
radio because mind you, I'm living in Miami, I'm doing
dream Champs running around.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
And then I heard that's how we on it, that's
how we on it, And.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
I said, this nigga deserves this shit. There's a lot
of people who don't. There's a lot of people who get.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
A fame, they get money, they get it, and they
just go when they could go out everybody. I couldn't
have been more happy in the world when I heard
from Master the Flex playing your record, not playing your record,
staying on your It's a difference.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
You can play it one day, but we're not living
in the nineties. In the nineties. You play your record
one time, you're going, You're going now. He got to
play a ship every.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Night, that's right, and he been playing his ship every
single consistent.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Fought Master Flex. We appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
He respecting the grind like yo. He called came home
at six and they grinding. Like I'm not just talking grinding,
talking about hundreds of thousands. There'd be some short m
spent like grinding this nigga grinding homie everything out of pocket.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, why are you doing?

Speaker 3 (26:47):
And you're still not even on the label because we
still ain't. I just really I want to do my
shit independent. But the platform is being laid, you know
what I'm saying, the consistency shut out to flex slave.
Even when you called me, I was I don't even know.
I think I was in Miami, and I was in Miami.
I think I was in l a sunny You called
me like seven in the morning and in the morning.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Like, Yo, this f is fire. I need you to
put everything you got. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
It was just real, It's genuine. It's like damn, and
that's how we always been.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
It's this real ship.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
And it's like when you get that feel and you
see people room for you and you know that you
did everything right. I ain't never compromised my principles, my
more room. You know what I'm saying, It's coming back,
and it's just like then be able to see that
and then be able to be appreciated, especially by the
people that you appreciate, Like, this is a legend to me,
you know what I'm saying. That day one, I remember
when he came in front of.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Justice and it was the whole second.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
I remember when you played band from TV from time
and I'm standing in there like this for this ship
and I'm sitting there like this, oh this ship is
this is classic. He was like, listen is.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Sound, my nigga.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
He played that ship truck and he just blasted. Sitting
right first as he blast that ship. I was just
in awe, just looking at him, like, damn man. And
then and see where that ship went.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
It was getting off. I was like, damn man, get air.
So that you know what I'm saying. So to be
in the presence and be respected by the people.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
That you love and respect and then like and I
tell people all the time, the artist that I love
is because when you listen to their music, you feel
like you know them.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
And when you listen to Nory music, you really know him. Nah,
It's true.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
You know what I'm saying, Like, it ain't no bullshit,
It ain't yo, This is just some song I made.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
This is no my nigga.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
So when you meet him and you listen, You're like,
this is exact and that's what it used to be
for me. And I'm saying some people can separate the
music from the artist.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
I'm not able to do that because once you are
what you're talking, I'm turning off. It's not authenticity. So
this is this is a legend. This is one of
my favorite artists old times. Nigga said, I don't even
smoke like that, I sell.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
I don't even drink.

Speaker 10 (29:11):
I don't drink like that.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Who says that, Like sometimes I just chill like those songs.
I was up norm to listen to them and got
me through my bed like you know something and didn't
knowing and you met me and then I madle me
like he was like, I'm a bronigga.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
All right. You know.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
So when you when you when you're able to get
love and respect from the people you respect, that's what
you do it for the rest of it, it don't
even matter. But that's how we don't know that when
you never need security now.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
When you live, you know what I mean, just keep
it too. And you know what the crazy thing is
is I want to bring it back. I'll come back
to that me on it.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
But Charlie, you are not only one of the first
child rappers, you're actually the first gangster rapper, like for real.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Though like like like you have one. I'm sorry, I
don't know the Philly boys seeing, but I mean identify
as New York artists.

Speaker 6 (30:27):
Because at one point we came from living our lyrics,
and you was one of them guys that actually lived
your lyrics, actually seen girls.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Nobody.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
I've seen your Black TV interview where you actually explain
how it happened.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
But the thing about it is what people don't understand
is you really went through it.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
They look at this interview and they thinking, like you're
saying it because you just went But this is this
is some real ship.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
It was real ship, but real girls.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Brother, Yeah, my daughter's uncle. God bless you know, for sure,
God blessed some peace. But you're like, yo, you know
what killed me on me is that they And I'm
not trying to downplay because that took a man's life.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
I take for as from God.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
I can't, you know, turn back the hands the time,
and that's to me, that's the worst thing you could do.
Because even if you rape somebody as much as we
shun that. I still have my daughter right here and
she's going, She's gone.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
God, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
So I took somebody's life. I used to watch his son,
you know what I'm saying. So you know that apartment
cutting you off.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
But that was the most interesting part about it was
when you was when Blad was.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Talking to you and we all love that.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
I love lie too, But he's kind of like the police,
right what I mean, he's.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Really trying to get the answers, Like he's.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Going to ask you some ship that couldn't get you incriminated.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
But it's up to you and it's up to you.
And that was one of the most honorable things.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
I mean, watching it was it was like you was
not proud of it.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
You just was like, Yo, this songing that happened.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
But you know what, let me just say before you finish,
that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
That's a difference from a real name.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
You didn't see what I'm saying, Like, this is one
of my best friends since we was kids. You under
see I'm saying. So we we've been through just about everything.
Like I know everything about what's going on in time,
I know everything he was dealing with and to be
when we've always been authentic, So watch my man and
knowing everything around me, like having ex and Pistol pop

(32:35):
these niggas around and knowing that these was the biggest
gangsters we ever knew in our lives, right, And when
they have conversations with you, they not glorifying the continue
bgging you up because a lot of people would have
took your position as a rapper that actually has a

(32:59):
body and would have God gone fly and said I
kept that nigga are doing.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
It was the.

Speaker 6 (33:05):
Exactly like I don't want to name the artist name,
but he's on line talking about he beat the.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Case because he shot the nigga like he's online. But you,
it was the exact And I looked at you and
mind you, I had a relationship with you forever. He
was on the run. He was going to my shows.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Coming to.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Run you. I seen you on the news. But I
just want to respect you.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
I just want to say that that that interview, when
I looked at it and I looked at the grown
man in you, and I looked at how you you
you held yourself down, and I looked at how you
also because.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
That was your girls, brother, and I looked at how
you was.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
So careful and so conscious, and I just want to
tell you that is some real shit. We understand we
can't bring back this man's life, but everything you're doing
right now, it's actually the illes shit in the world
because you're not You're the world we lose.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
We are just growing up.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
When we grow up at we lose sight of life,
like because you hear about niggas getting shot and killed
and see it and.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Might do it or whatever.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
So but when you think about it, like yo, even
to that nigga, he got kids, mubles, bubble and at
the end of the day, it's what fifteen years later,
twenty years later for me now and it's like, what
think about the biggest beef you had twenty years ago?

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Was that worth it? That you were ready to tell
shit an hour?

Speaker 3 (34:46):
And now you look at it like that was some
silly shit, you know what I'm saying, Really is it
the case that's really worth it?

Speaker 1 (34:51):
When you're come talking.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
About a whole bunch of years and at the end
of the day it was regular shit like that, like not,
it was regular shit. I look at it like, you know,
like I know Mike Saint pussy. But we hung with
niggas then, so I looked at it like, man, it
was regular everyday shit, not to be glorified like that.
What happens that shit that go on?

Speaker 7 (35:13):
Man?

Speaker 6 (35:18):
But nah, I need you describe a situation because my
partner not if a capone.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
He's standing over there right.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Me and him was in jail together, right, We was
in DFY right. Then we came home and he caught
a case. So I can never really relate to his
case because he actually.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Was famous when we was in jail together. I was
not famous.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Then he caught a case and then he went up
and north right, but I could never relate because he
was compone then right, he was popping like he was.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
He was not compone when we met each other.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
So I just you to describe to people how hard
or maybe I think it was.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
A double edged sword because you're famous.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
So it's like, you know, ship friends, You're gonna have
some people that dick ride oh ship, that's whether it's inmates,
whether it's CEOs, And then.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
You gonna have some se fuck that nigga.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Sa sh same ship sames, some people trying to give
you extra food, some people trying.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Not to feed you, you know what I mean, It's just,
you know, everybody different. I just took it in stride.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
But what I found, especially when I was at Sinks,
because when I got the Sink thing is it's a
large population of black police. So and then most of
them is from the city, so it just so happens.
I'm in my mid thirties, so a lot of them
is around the same age age. You know, they say
they knew who motherfucker was. So it was ill that

(36:58):
even the motherfuckers that hated, like the cant niggas and
nigga was so laid back with it that even if
you had niggas after a where I had to be
like like another potheo to be like, man, come on, man,
like that nigga, nigga chilling man. So I just be
me man and let everybody be them and everything that

(37:20):
happen the way it's supposed to happen. I've never been
pussy and I don't know nobody.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
But we're not here for that. We're not here for that.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
We're here to get some money and bring the same
question because again, my partner, one of my best friends,
and both of these guys and my best they both comebacks.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Back. But again, I can't.

Speaker 8 (37:47):
Relate to being famous and being in jail, like I
was famous in jail for three days, that's it, and
I was the lawyer, right, but you actually have some fame, right,
and then it is a robbery Yeah all right, son.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
You just just just take us from there. You had
a robbery.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Charge and we heard you you say that you you
didn't do it, definitely did.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
I definitely believe you all the way. I really believe you.
Like me if I ain't donna.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Need to lie, but I did seventy fourteen years so
I did be like, yeah, I did it. I shouldn't
have did it? You know it was it was Have
you ever been in jail prior to that? Or no?
You know I did a couple of days and cold
days alight, So now you.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Cop out I didn't a blue trial? You blue trial?

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Wow, we didn't know that, Okay, so you blue trial
and now you go up state.

Speaker 6 (38:44):
Now now it's just people know this is my song,
of course, can you describe that to me?

Speaker 1 (38:52):
For me, it was just unreal, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Like you you young, you're twenty one years old, you
sit in jail.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
You're signed to violate that violator millions dollar a day.
I know, I know your budget. Yeah, you know your budget.
I remember that I was watching. I was watch because
you know why, and then we're gonna go to the

(39:21):
shrine story.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
But so yeah, so you know you you you're going
up north and you sending Herstu on the island for
a couple of months, and you think you're coming home
and you're figuring and you know as soon as you
but I blew trial and then went to the island.
Like I wasn't in jail fighting my case. I was
fighting my case. Wow, I was you know what I'm saying.
I was from the outside, you just thinking this ship

(39:43):
ain't gonna happen like I ain't doing I ain't going
to jail, you know.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Then you started realizing how dirty the system is. You
know what I'm saying, How a bunch of ship just
don't unless you gotta be really serious about what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
You know what I'm saying. You can't take for granted
that you're in it. So you're going home.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
That's that's not a reality, especially from our communities. You know,
what I'm saying, it's just completely different. So when you
sit in there and you're like, damn, just blue, tryal
and you don't even know. When I was on the island,
I even know what I was getting sensed to.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
But what if you were the blue? What you did?
God bless.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
But because they always tell you, they say you could,
you will take this play or you can they offer Actually, yeah,
well in hindsight, you said did and be like, but
you got to realize you didn't do it.

Speaker 11 (40:31):
Your whole life, you've been fucked up.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Like you know what I'm saying. It wasn't even a
conversation when you didn't do it.

Speaker 6 (40:44):
Man, that's even more so more so now I'm gonna
be honest.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I knew you and I knew you didn't do it,
Like I ain't gonna lie. I knew you did a
lot of a lot of ship because I can see
it in your eyes.

Speaker 6 (40:59):
But I was like, yo, right now, I'm gonna describe me,
me and my son right justice was my ship.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
That was very It was my ship.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Like I ain't gonna lie. I hate it, puff Daddy,
you can keep this and we're not editing this.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
He did No.

Speaker 6 (41:16):
I hate it pump Daddy, Like I hated when he
represented it at the time because me and Capone was
Armie sue niggas and these guys are on shiny suits.
So I just hated what he represented at the time.
But I love this prod Justice.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
He made some great fried chicken, so I used to
go to Justice all the time. Right. So it was
this rumor.

Speaker 6 (41:38):
But this new artist, it's supposed to be the new
Biggie Smalls, right am, I correct, you.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Can stop merect. It was better than I gonna tell
you better because I'll practice it, practiced it. I can
feel you ain't practice. I watched you in the breakfast
class and might sing practice. But there was this new artist.

Speaker 6 (41:57):
His name is Seane so Shine was supposed to be
the new Biggie Smalls.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
But nobody knew how he looked.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
Nobody know how he looked. So we we heard like
I think he did like a couple of bars. Yeah,
but but so we felt like he was heavy.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
But when we seen to him, I was like, oh, yeah,
this is but I seen him. He didn't look like me.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
So it was just it was just it was thrown off.
So we outside and Puff goes Puff I'm about to
say text, but I know it wasn't a text. But
he said, yo, go outside and say hi to my
new artists. So I go outside. I say what's up
to him? The nigga was like you you know cause
Shine is a smooth nigga.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
He was like you, I like you ship. I'm looking
at this nigga. I said, are you Shine? He goes yes,
I'm shying. I'm like, I'm throwing off not I'm disappointed.
I'm appointed. It's just I thought he would be a

(43:04):
heavy person. I thought he was gonna be fat.

Speaker 6 (43:07):
So I'm like, all right, cool bomb. I don't know
what happens, right, I text Chris Lighty. Chris like, what's
Chris there? Light Mike Lighty was there, So I text Mike.
Mike comes and Mike is like, yeah, what's up? You
need me to pay for the bill. Because that's that's
my style. Back then, I would just run up some

(43:28):
ship and be like, just take care of it. But
I'm gonna describe this scene. So for some reason, Seane
starts rhyming and then he goes.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Kicking his ship. So I robbed Tom your man. Tom.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Tom came. Tom pulled up and was like, I don't.
In my mind, I felt like he pushed you, like
heaven was this he was either tone was outside, and
I think it was either Matt Middleton the lawyer.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
The lawyer.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
So they came and he's like, yo, they're upsided shine
the norway outside. Tom didn't really want me to do it,
was like nah, nice, And I'm like, man, if I
you crazy, this is the million the nigga, I'm gonna
kill him. So he brought me up there. So Tom's
just sitting.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
There wait wait, wait, wait, wait, wait till you finish.
That's the part I didn't know. I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Come on, come on, you gotta rely, you gotta rely,
you gotta rely.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
So this is the part that I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
The part that I didn't know was when you walked outside.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Did you have that in your mind already over here?
This relyt my son. That's the only reason.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
So so that's the part I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Is that because.

Speaker 6 (44:49):
Mind you, I think I met you like two minutes
or twelve minutes and so that and we tell. But
then you came and then that part I needed that.
I needed billion dollar.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Niggas because that's what I remember in the industry. It
was running.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
He got a million in publishing and a million on
the deal.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
We had never heard of this in the industry. Yeah,
we had never heard of it. Everybody was expecting him
to be.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
He was supposed to be the craziest shit in the world, said.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Mice comes outside and he's chilling, and he's watching us rhyme, and.

Speaker 6 (45:26):
I rhymed, And for some reason, I feel like I
never got this part of the story. I felt like
you looked at me and said, what lies Like.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
In my mind, your eyes said, chill you on already?

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Am I correct? You looked at me like I said, no,
you know Bronks niggas. You're a Brooks nigga too. You're
gonna relax, right?

Speaker 6 (45:49):
And then I swear to God because I had never
heard you rhyme, and I.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
I might be wrong, but I feel like you said
something in my palm and then I got my left
arm and.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
You say, that's the whole type of sh ain't gonna lie.
I can't even tell you what I said that I
ain't gonna lie. I was like, oh my God, and
shine he respectfully bowed out. Am I correct? He was
after about two rounds. It just he was like, I
feel like two and a half because that half after

(46:24):
half around, he was like it's over.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
And then I got Texas people was like you died
on the streets. And Shine had hit me after that
and said, buff told me I can't rhyme on the
street and no more.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
And he told me that we need know my man.
Now I fell up for sh listen, that's my man.
We fell Shine was inclining together. That's my that's my
my nigga.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
But but right after that we had fell out because
prior to that, because I felt like I felt like
you kind of fucked up. His deal was a lot
because he came to me and he told me the
same thing that he mother, was like, he don't want
me to run. And that's when him and Puff start
going sideway. After that situation, you know what I'm saying,
He came and was in the studio together, you know,
because him and Nige was cool. So Najus always have

(47:15):
me around. And I think like right after that, we
walked onto a fight. It was it was like a
big thing. His man Shine, his no one of his
little man and his little man. We got into that
Puffer House.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
I think ye.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
At the in the Hampton's had a party in Hampton
and we came off there and it was probably like
a couple of weeks after that. So I see you
and I give him a pound and on this man like,
fuck that nigga giving you fake love, and he said
out loud. Nigga was like he was about five too.
I'm like, what who are you talking to? What are

(47:48):
you what are you talking about? He's like, funk that
you running around? You know too much niggas running around
saying you killed him and fuck that whatever.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
I'm like, no, it was me. He was running around, yeah,
and I'm like, I'm like, what are you talking them about?
It was me. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Listen for me, it was like, listen, we're not gonna
do this. The biggest knocking this off. Let me take something, Sean.
I had the biggest bus at this time. He had
the biggest bus. So for me to just meet this.

Speaker 6 (48:18):
Nigga and this nigga tear him up, I ain't gonna lie.
I told everybody it was me.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
It was me. I'm gonna be honest. We put that around.
I said, what did I say? You said? One of
the guys to shout the battle shut myself. I did
because I ain't gonna again. I'm gonna reiterate this whole situation. Right.
I'm a hood nigga. I know, I know certain people
don't know like you know how queens get down off,

(48:47):
you know. I know I know people some a lot
of people look at you and just be like you
from queens that it's false. They gotta relax, right. But
I looked at Mice.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Mice gave me Till to this day.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
I don't remember because me and him got bug after
guard brow, so I don't remember. If it was a
something and I look, I said word, I.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Fell back, But I know, don't look I had. I
gave my man. This is my word. I gave my man.
That's going to am.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
I'm on the A side. Tell me with about fourteen
blood niggas. I fun with him, you know that, small wigga.
I'm my man's on the other side of these my niggas.
Though my nigga pooch broken nigga pools, he gets in it.
One of the niggas stepped on and broke his cardier
is on the visit he hit him.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Cardiers on. Yeah, let's big him clock. You know, he
went down I think for the step on mother.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
But anyway, whatever happened, Pooch popped on the bit, so
the nigga, all the blood is on my side, so
they gonna pop on the nigga. So I'm like, damn,
they like your chiet men. I'm like, you know, I'm
trying to and you gave him.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
I'm trying to resolve this situation. But I obviously seen the thing.
The boy didn't swung on the nigga ration. The thing
then went too far.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
So I went to that game and I gave him
the eye like like somebody your mice gave me the eye.
And it was like it was, like I said, I
relaxed because it was like whatever he did was like, nigga,
you on, why are you going to rhyme with us?

Speaker 1 (50:30):
And I sat by that and I said, Dad, we had.

Speaker 12 (50:33):
A whole conversation just right here, just because, and I
loved and I said, damn, and yo, boy, I did
not know what she was gonna do though, and all
due respect, I thought you was.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Okay, but then you rhymed and I realized you might have.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
Stopped the whole block I think even the police started clapping.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
I mean, the police is on the corner like that
out then too. It was there, It was, it was,
it was. It was so legendary.

Speaker 6 (51:03):
Now, that was a legendary hip hop moment. Do you
realize how legendary that was?

Speaker 3 (51:07):
I mean when I hear what you say, like in
my mind it was because you know, you don't you
don't want to over over push yourself because I'm like, damn,
this sh was big.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
I've seen it from my perspective.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
I'm like then, like this was the industry was dead
normally one of my favorite artists is there, Hey, Buddy's
then I just did some ship that's probably gonna go down.
Or I'm thinking it's that big. I forgot you your
deal exactly.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Soide him right there.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
The next day. The next day it was like Jamaine
the pre fool me to Landa. We have like ten
meetings in like three days. This is the reason why
I know, because because I invitedn't like likely, and then
they come out to day all media like what happened?

Speaker 1 (51:50):
You know, I was out already, but I was like, damn,
you ain't gonna be want to say something I told
you to come here, but listen all do it that.
I never seen somebody be that like battle rap.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
When I think a battle rap, I don't think of
smack DVD. I think of what you did that night.
That night you looked at that man in his face.
Didn't disrespect him, but you disrespected.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Him in another way.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Because you looked at his flaws and you just made
it and you just kept hitting them with punch lines.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
And then he kept rhyming.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
He kept rhyming, not against you, which was wrong because
like you took it personalf. You directed every ball towys
his motherfucker. And then this nigga kept kicking rhymes that
had nothing to do with Mike Mice. He took a vantage.
I mean, he was a man you got to keep
swinging as a mean, he took advant respect that, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
But I think Sean was an artist.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
He was an artist, artist, artist who's had at that moment.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Gimmick around him. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
You know the whole biggie he said, sounding the bad voice,
sound like bigg but he was officiing nigga with Sean nigga.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
But what I'm saying is I folks with him too.
I ain't say nothing bad about him. This is different,
but it's a different add some MC ship.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
It's like but that day I'm saying that, I was like, yo,
like I don't want.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
To rhyme after my song, do nothing. It's like in
the finals, like step the moment, step all the height.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
But in the front when Lebron was just throwing this
ship like nigga, nigga, you know it's.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Real, It's real, and that you know what it is.

Speaker 6 (53:33):
This is the biggest thing. We should celebrate these moments
in hip hop. We should actually sit back and be like, you.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Know what and Sean to Sean is is Sean called me.
Sean hit me and was like, man, you killed me
on that ship definitely, Like I'm like, what.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Do you got to be made? Oh no, this is
this is pretty. That's why this is important. Is a
lot of free came saying that's what that's what this
is important, right me and me? And yeah, you know
he called me years later like we never.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Had that real conversation because we had and we was
war like we both struggled, and I used to I
love like I actually had love for Sean because he
was one of us, and I used to be in
the studio, like even after that Ship, I used to
be in the studio with Sean helping him like with.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Records, like he let me hear Ship, like nah do
this do that? Like this was my nigga.

Speaker 6 (54:26):
But the rumor was the room was so big because
I ain't gonna lie that moment what it was.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
It was like no, no, no, no, relaxed and right in
the stud that was my nigga. He's just being like
he respected me as an artist.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
I say what I did with him, and like he'd
be in the studio and we'll go to the studio.
He let me hear Ship and oh yeah that's still boy,
this and that, like before he dropped the who want
to fuck with Us?

Speaker 1 (54:55):
And she's like I heard that. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
I was, and I got locked up when he first
started playing. I never was there to actually see Sean
even dropping no music, Like I was just in the studio, y'all.
When you know what I'm saying. When he first started
and him and Puff was actually going through Ship like
there was a niggas I know Ship.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
It was like I was in the intricate like when
Puff and Mace was.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Beefing Puff and Sean would be like I was I
and all double up like I and all that project.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
And then the Mace Project, the Mace Project. I went
out there.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
I went out to the Bahamas with Made. He threw
me out there and I was in the studio him
every day recording his album. He didn't even let Puff
come in the room. Nobody's gonna tell you this, But
then afterwards Puff came and listened to it. It was
like he threw his little spin on it and trying
to He pushed me out of it because I was
a young naven coming up in the game. He's like,
you know what I'm saying here, you got your man's
with you?

Speaker 1 (55:45):
What you know? This is my project? Did he tell
you your man's in them? Yeah? He said, you brought
your man's in them.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
When we was the man, He's like, Yo, you're a
man's and you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
When we had our ship, like you know what I'm saying,
Like we was weed either this is real ship. Me
and Puff grown like because there was a I was
me and he was him and I wasn't relinquishing who
I was. I only much money you got. I don't care,
but bad boys ship. I'm mean, you know what I'm saying,
I'm here with my man. I'm with him, so if
he ain't with you, then I'm not with you.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
And that's how my stance was with anything, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
So when he brought me in the studio with him
and I'm listening to this and then Papa come and listen,
and he was like, yeah, I don't really like that,
and I'm like that ship is dope, mate, I don't
know what he talking about.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
And he was like, yo, you know, you know how
Papa is. He's like, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
I know you got your man's nothing with you, but
I don't look, I just need me and you to talk.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
And I'm here.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
He brought me here though for a reason. He was
like yeah, and he'd be talking to Ma's like your mates, listen.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
You know what I'm saying. I don't want to go
through all this. You know what I'm saying. You got
you so you know we had that.

Speaker 13 (56:51):
You know what I'm saying, I can picture this.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
Ship and we went through that little that little bit
I remember when the one time we was in behind
us and I never forget it, and it was just like,
you know, puppy is competitive. Niggas said what every day
when that nigga.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Pupp is competitive? Super?

Speaker 3 (57:09):
So you know he he knew I was a street nigga.
He knew then I had my respect and treat he
with tolling them. I remember, I remember he fucked with
them home. So but I was deal with Mace. That
wasn't even here. It wasn't a tone, none of them.
And I was there with Mace. And you know what
I'm saying, I was there Wolf, like God bless it.
That Wolf compon me in his room every night. That's

(57:29):
that was the last time I really seen Wolf was
in the Bahamas. He used to bring me in his
room every night like he was talking to me and
killing me because we both wrongs niggas and I was
like the young un so he used to give me jews.
So anyway, we inside. I don't know where he was.
I don't think we was in the studio. I think
we were somewhere. He brought Jaylo on them on there
that he brought Jaylaw.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
It was a big big by Jay story. No real story.
But she was there.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
She used to come talk with us, like we're in
the studios, you gonna say like this.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
She come talking to me and they got nothing to
do it.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Jas from Abron, So I stay with them Bron and
she can't.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
She was cool with us. We're sitting there and I'm like,
Jaylo was flawless.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
I haven't seen jail on years, but in nineteen ninety eight,
ninety ninety you snapped her chair.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
I did. Of course. Niggas makes you want to I
want to be me.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
She walked in the first Listen, that's a real off.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
That's real. That's real.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Jealous looks like somebody just mean it is really, I'm
just sitting there looking.

Speaker 14 (58:41):
At it like this all so anyway, and Papa was going,
you know, we just this and that, and then I'm
we was in the room going something where I don't
even know what it was.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
So we're talking back before we you know, I could
do this and I do this like yeah, I know
this and that. So I'm like, I don't know what
he said to me. But somehow we started like wrestling.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Somehow it was a wrestled We had like a wrestling match.
I don't know if you're members of ship. This ship
is so biy was.

Speaker 11 (59:12):
Listening, just going on. It wasn't wrestling, Listen, we gotta talk.
It wasn't really wrestling.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
But I don't know who I was. It just got
into some ego versus ego and I'm like, I don't know,
I don't know what happened, but a he like, my nigga.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
I say you if I Brady, you can't get out.

Speaker 15 (59:40):
I bet you, okay for what you're saying, I.

Speaker 10 (59:45):
Said, Christ, if I'm rapped, I'm not going nowhere. You
want to bet everybody I'm down before you in the
headline money and not the headline.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
I just wrapping the right way home and was fighting,
but did like all right, and I'm like, puppy, you're
not getting out of this. I'm o, my nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
You know the s's in the Bahamas.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
The commentary more Fellas and it was meggan man and the.

Speaker 11 (01:00:28):
Man told me if I grabbed you, bet.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
You and get our So what do you want to be? Like?
What are you willing to bet? He said? I bet?
I don't even know we bet.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
I know that Ning was on a full squirm and
I was like puppy, don't getting out of this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Crazy getting nice, my nig you're walking into that. He's like, yo,
and I sat. I said, He's like, he's when I
let him go, He's like, no, no, no, let me go.
I never started.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
We didn't do that tomorrow, you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Know, And I think from that moment we had a
little bit more.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
He was, you know what I'm saying, shut up a
puff man, because you know why, you know why, you
know why.

Speaker 6 (01:01:13):
At first, when I was competing with them, I always
wanted to say, oh, fuck them, niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Fucking nads, fucking PuF, fucking jay z everywhere right. But
then when I.

Speaker 6 (01:01:25):
Started competing with them, I started to realize how important
they are to our cultures.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
So when I see Anas, I always want to big
him up.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
I always want to stop and give him a hug.
When I see a puff it's the same thing when
I see a jay I always want to stop and just.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Give them love.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
Because the thing about our culture is we don't celebrate
our cultures. And you tell them you got to relax
and then grab a bottle, even though we don't even
want the bottle, Just grab a bottle.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Call. They thought there this record war with your chick yo.
Even though we don't even know them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Two niggas Jay and Puff, they them two individuals may
have like probably like fifty percent of the influence over
the coach.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Is what I'm saying over the whole coach. This is
what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:02:12):
So like, at one point the whole crew too.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Not to take nothing away.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
From all of them, at one point I used to
compete with them so much that I never actually understood
their genius. Sometimes when you're trying to be on the
same level with somebody, you don't understand it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Sometimes when you're blessed, you can't see someone else.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
You can't see somebody else's blessing because you're living in
your blessings.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:02:39):
So when I when I came up and everything was
you know, you know, percolating the apartment, I started to
realize that, damn, all these years I fucked up because
I was trying to be the next Rockefeller, always trying
to be the next bad boy, always trying to And
then when I'm really and I said, man, this whole time, now,

(01:03:02):
I should have been bigging you up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
This whole time. That's my fault. That ain't his fault.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Because if he don't fuck with me, that's his fault.
But my fault is I gotta, I gotta. I gotta
appreciate Chilly. I gotta appreciate him my song. I gotta
appreciate it. That's okay, this is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Drink Championship, change this fall. We just do it.

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
But and that's what I want to keep, continue to promote,
and I want to continue to promote us. Bigg enough
us because if we don't big up us, because who's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Gonna big us up?

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
He motherfucker right, that's right, not a damn soul eat.

Speaker 15 (01:03:41):
But the thing is, that's the thing about life.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
The thing about life is me and my partner right here.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
We did this Drink Championship for five six months and
we ain't getting paid a dollar. In fact, I'm sure
we owe fifty thousand dollars. I'm sure that all the
flights that were doing. But we believed in this so much,
and we believed in hip hop so much that we
didn't care.

Speaker 6 (01:04:08):
So by the time we did get paid, it was
like we definitely get paid.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
We didn't get paid. We put out but it didn't matter.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
You know what matter is he loves hip hop this
nigga is a hip hop nigga. This nigga probably got
your ship on vinyl. I definitely have you got your
ship on vinyl.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
That's the DJ. That's the DJ, and I'm the artist.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
And the thing is, who better to represent our culture
than the artists in the DA the artist in the
fucking DJ. So the thing I'm trying to tell y'all
is if you never felt appreciated or you never felt
like what you.

Speaker 16 (01:04:50):
Did for hip hop didn't matter, I'm gonna tell you
today that it motherfucking dead.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Listen. I want to tell you that it did.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Know what you've done for hip hop, I'm doing it
like you continue to do it. You have evolved into
not only one of my favorite artists of all times,
now you are like a voice and you're bringing stuff
like this to the table. And I have a responsibility.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Mice. I'm sorry, guys, I cut you off because fans
hate that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
But I'm gonna tell you I actually recognized my responsibility
now like then, I didn't recognize my responsibility. Responsibility meant
nothing to me because I only wanted to get me up.
But Drake Champs supplies people jobs. We have a show coach.

(01:05:44):
If you're born and run eating that. We just finalized,
do not did not blow it up. Don't blow up.
I need to be a part of that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Nias got you. But listen, So we just finalized.

Speaker 6 (01:06:04):
And the thing is, I can't do none of this
ship if I don't have hip hop on my back.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
And hip hop should be first.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Hip hop should be a religion, and not only hip
hop should be a religion.

Speaker 6 (01:06:16):
But we actually have to unionize hip hop. I know
I said it earlier, but for real, because just think
about it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Mice. Oh and I'm sorry that I keep using you
as a example, but use me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
But every time I think of your case, I think
of like I wish I was in power to say,
let me hire Bob Kleena, let me hire a Scott Lehman,
because this nigga gotta get the fuck off of this case.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
And the thing about us is.

Speaker 6 (01:06:47):
We only care about ourselves. We have to actually sit back.
Get that twenty five thousand dollars check, get that ten
of another check you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Just get for back one hundred dollars. It's not even
it can be profitable.

Speaker 6 (01:07:04):
So now when Chili, something happens with Chili and Chi
Ali sitting there and they saying, he's saying, Yo, no,
I ain't do that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
You got representation, you got everything.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
And and the thing is, you gave too much to
hip hop for you not to be I know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
You, I know you humble, I know who you are.
I know and you're a street nigga. I know it.
But you know what hip hop owes you, not hip
hop owes us.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Some it owes all of us because we dedicated our
whole life just a long time like this is way
and yo yo another because against it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
But I want to, you know, just not.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Just congratulate my brother, but you know, just to see
the grind starting to pay off and just with and
it's just.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
A positive lane with beautiful. It's dope.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
And when you when you're getting money and it's on
some positive ship, like that's the best. Like you what
you said when you helping niggas, you know, you helping
motherfuckers kids eat, that's dope, nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
That's official. That's some ship you brag about.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
That's where you brag. What I got, I had my
son in first class. When I got it was a
two man's families because of me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Nigga. That's dope. That's what you know what I'm saying,
That's always been and that's what we gotta do.

Speaker 6 (01:08:20):
So what we gotta do in hip hop is one
continue to big each other up. Like I told you
my meeting with Leo Kolngs, he sat down with me
and he me and Dollar beating at the Polo Lounge.

Speaker 17 (01:08:35):
I lived out Drake lyrics. He got to relax, makes
really really really. But le All said to me and
he said, why does this work? And I said what right?

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
I least? He said what does this work? And I said,
I don't know. He said, you know why this works
because hip hop is never been celebrated.

Speaker 6 (01:09:02):
And at that very moment, I didn't know what he
was talking about. And then I thought about it and
I was like, damn, because I don't interview people I
don't respect.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
The only interview people I respect.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
That's why that's why you see a lot of the
old school rappers doing shows now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Niggas starting rob out there for two years.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Niggas he out there, easy, easy ride. A lot of
people get money. Black Sheep. They niggas like niggas. We
interviewed cast one of that nigga ain't been in America
for two months and he's not show he was lost.
He definitely is not cheap and he definitely picked up
African back bout it. I tol him relaxed at that
little moment.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Because I had I had there.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
He used to be talking as a little nigga. I
don't even know what's going over I was. I said,
I said, listen, we can't do that. Chris is one
of my Chris. You can't say that. You can't you
got you can't tell you what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
He said, in his defense, what happened was to take
away from his legacy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Yeah, so what happened was this because it happened on
drink Champs.

Speaker 6 (01:10:18):
So let me let me, let me let me finally
clarify what happened was. I asked Cares, I said, Yo,
what do you feel about African Bambata?

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
And he goes, I don't give.

Speaker 6 (01:10:29):
A funk about controversy, right, He said, that's not going
to take away from what he gave to hip hop
and what he gave to me. But in his defense,
the nigga was coming off of a boat, so he
didn't know what African bat battle.

Speaker 15 (01:10:42):
Was accused saying, okay, you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
I'm gonna be honest. I don't get nothing of this,
but I ask him that. When he said that, I
was like, oh, ship, and I didn't want to be
like I didn't want to stop him be like yo.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
He said he didn't, he didn't know. So what happened
was big up the star starting buckle whop, big you out.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
But he took that one part and he destroyed him
like he just because he in the stars defense. He
was actually right too. He didn't say that, but he
didn't have the content. He didn't have the facts.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
And me, I on Twitter all day, I'm on Instagram
all day, so I understand.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
But when Chris said that, I know, I knew anew.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
I knew he didn't know going on now he didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
You, I don't. You can't take away from his music.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Whatever about we can't legacy legacy. He can't take away
from his music, like taking trophy. I don't want to
take the trophy. If they find out that baseball players
using steroids, they take all them accolades.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
So the same ship applies and hip hop to that.
But he cheated the game. You cheated the game too,
because the game and search the cheated the game. I
care what you say.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
I'm talking about his music. If you liked one of
his songs no and didn't know who like No, no way,
because like I told you before we started this, if
I can't separate the artists from the music, if you
not who you say you are the music that I'm
saying this, if you don't know who the artist is,
if you just listening, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Now that you was raping that boys, I don't want
to do nothing. I don't want to hear.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
Any I wish I could just rewind and never heard
the ship I heard from you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
We neither.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
Whatever I'm saying is when they played all their people, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Not I'm gonna tell turn that ship off right now
that that but that's part of their his now that's
the same way music bring back time. But you're gonna
hear it. And I'm going to the djove He'll turn
that ship over. The little boy. I'm doing the everything

(01:13:03):
out of here I'm saying out here, I mean we
but listen, I'm not standing up for him and thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
That's that's like you listen yea, my wife.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Knocking, don't worry. Yeah, up here's God. This is the
best way I know what about.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
His deal, right, I love respect everything I fucking man
bought it brought the industry right, But at the same token,
I can't co sign anything as his allegation.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
You personal named Poppy from the Brons.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
And I know this nigga. I don't know where I
knew him from, but I know this nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
He ain't lying.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
And that nigga sitting there saying, yo, he forty so
can I can?

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
I can?

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
I What I'm saying is on me, you could be
a rapist. When I hear what I'm saying is if
I found that out tomorrow, ain't nothing gonna change when
I hear that's you can't just say fuck that nigga.
He's a bitch, that that ship, that so the stuff so,

(01:14:39):
And that's what I felt like care Russel Wan was
trying to express, but he expressed it in the wrong
way because he was trying to say, you know, I
don't give what y'all telling me about African is my nigga.
The problem was arrested and know what African buying bottle
was actually accused?

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Correct, you know all the facts. He didn't know all
the facts, so he said, this is what he said,
this is what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Fucked up, And this is the reason why that's something
fun up because we grew up around that like yeah,
like my man be like, yes, a lot of them
and jail and you don't know why what like a
lot of them bro rip alive while niggas man.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
So that's the reason why.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
That's the reason why I know I never addressed it because.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
After car Rest said that was the same day the
facts came.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
Out of So when Carras said, now now you're gonna realize,
now put it together. You gotta realize. I said, Chimus,
what you heard about African man botta and he goes,
fuck controversy. I don't give a funk about no controversy.
It can never take away from what he did. The
hip hop think you kr Rest don't know. So like

(01:15:53):
it's just like right now that we know we filmed this,
I don't know when it's gonna come out, right, but
by the time we put it out, people think this
is new right now. He is right now yesterday and
it wasn't you know what I'm saying, change, So.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
I gotta I gotta representficate of us one because by
the time you put it out.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
I'm glad you allications you said another he was on
he was on a boat.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Everybody talking ship. He's on the boat, my niggast letters.
I'm glad you yeah, you know, because that was hurt.
Like I arrest, did not he did not co sign it.
He did not, he did not. I'm gonna be honest.
I'm sorry. No, I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest.
I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest. I'ma be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
He did not co sign it, but he did say
what he said, and that's like you, It's.

Speaker 6 (01:16:49):
Like, yo, what you telling me? What mice my nigga,
don't give a funk with what you tell me. It
was nice and that's and I'm gonna just thick of
that cheet my nigga. I don't give a fuck what
you say. But we didn't know that you got nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
He's finger popping boys, like when everything I was doing
a protests contesting for like thirty days.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
Trade about the lady because we got a big up
my song the Raptivists. I love that, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:17:24):
Hold I'm tell you something. I'm sorry, come cut you off.
You know, people hate that, right, But my son, the
courage that you have in certain situations. I always watch
you and I wish I had the same courage you have.
I appreciate I don't have the courage you have. You
be marching for real, like you really for real. You
went to the woman's march, you went to the me

(01:17:45):
and Man march. You went, you'll be marching.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
You be marching. Let's make some nation marchs. Got that,
But listen.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
So I was doing a protests. They killed sixty six
year old woman. He shot her two times an abamen.
They said she had a bat, mentally ill woman. They
walked in the house full of them and they couldn't
do nothing else. But she was said back, I'm back.
You shot up for two times of having a bat,
saying she was a threat to their life.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
This is the bronx. This is in the bronx.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Okay, So I was doing I did a forty day
protest where I was outside of the precinct every day
forty days straight, rain, sleep snow, by myself, kids, my kids,
whatever it was, because this is how passionate I was
about it. Probably in one of those days, the guy
the accused of of being Bada was out there with

(01:18:38):
me and he pulled me to the side, and this
was a d he was a desled dude, and he
was just like, yo, I want to.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
Talk to you, and I ain't know don't like what
you told to me.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
I didn't know who he was, and he was just like, yo, man,
I'm the guy that told about what body did to me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
Man, you know what I'm saying, Like, and I want
I wanted to live.

Speaker 6 (01:18:58):
And it's us being hip hop because this is all
it's a father like all this. Our father might be
fucked up, but this is kind of like our father.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
So when he's telling me this and he looked at
me in my eyes, this wasn't no, it didn't seem
He's like, yo, man, he said, it took me years
to be able.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
To say this to something. Yeah, because it's hurts, he said.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
But I respect you and I think that you staying
on the principles that I live by. And I just
want to look at you in your face and say
this ain't no lie. You know what I'm saying. You know,
I want you to I want you to look at me,
and I want to I just wanted to come out
here and tell you that, and that shit kind of
hurt me, like dangn you can tell because because it

(01:19:37):
hurts them saying exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
You can see he was in jail, he said, I
was locked up. He looked like he was fit.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
Like you know what I'm saying, Like, why would a
man want to come and hear somebody rap them?

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Like what the fun he want to say that? You
know what I'm saying. So it was just like it
was really it was like damn.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
I'm like, damn, but love it, like I'm sorry for you,
he said, no, I just he said, it's very few
people I respect and I told my story because I
needed to do that for me.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
But I actually respect you and I respect what you're
doing this.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
I'm telling you that, Okay, He's like, I want to
and I just want you to understand that why I
said what I said is that I needed to get
ridden for me because I was living with that ship
for years. And I just wanted you to know that
I ain't lying on them. I ain't making up those
stories like it hurt me. They haven't even had that.
It's this dog skin brother, you know, he was like
brown skinned. Okay, I see them all.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
He was like a brown when he was telling me.
So I was like, damn, I didn't even know what
to say to him, you know what I'm saying. So
like it was like damn, like.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
It's sobody, what can you say to him? Like I
don't there fighting for the lady and you come with that.
I was like, Damn, that's a whole nother fighting watching
what she was out there watching with me, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
And it was like, damn, man, it's just like.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
I didn't even know I was at a loss and
I'm usually he never had a lost for words.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
I found I would have been a loss of work
and that was a loss man. So so when Chris
said that, thinking about all that year, was just like,
come on, oh, so I just want to clear that out.

Speaker 5 (01:21:07):
You have to clear because I'm glad you said it,
because I was like, Yo, when I heard it back,
I was like, damn it, she seems this thing fucked up.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
But the thing about it was we didn't even have
all the details.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
So I asked him, I said, yo, yo, when you
think about African man Bata and he was like fuck yo.
But people don't understand part of being real. It's sometimes
you got to you got to be wrong. Separate the two,
you know what I'm saying. Sometimes you might have to
tell your man he wronged, or sometimes you have to
cross that street if you real.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
You know what I'm saying, And that's what happened. But
that life.

Speaker 6 (01:21:46):
You know, folks in the roads come At the time
we interviewed Cavers one, it was just a aroma.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
So none of us knew the facts right or wrong.
And look at eff I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 6 (01:21:56):
The whole time I've brung up African about this thing
is brilliant hip hop.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
He was kept looking is disappointed for me because in
my organization that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
I do and in the active is one of my friends,
like real close friends.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Is part of the you know nation. We love zool Nation.

Speaker 9 (01:22:17):
Exactly names and changed. Now like you what it has done.
That's one's person. Like that's it, Like say, how you
follow the message and not the message?

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
That's why you motherfucker right cheek.

Speaker 6 (01:22:30):
But that's why if you see something in hip hop
and something hip hop is not wrong, you can't blame
the whole hip hop generation.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
You can't do that.

Speaker 18 (01:22:38):
You can't you know, I'm gonna someone you want to
be cut off, please, So that's where we got to
be heard account because when we see as the hip
hop nation, if we don't say something is wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
With it, right and theyked, they can say that it's.

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
The whole hip hop nation watching somebody, And that means
silence means accepted as bad as them when they when
they don't do that after they shoot it, silence means
except so if you not so you telling me, if
I see something that's going on and I don't say nothing,
that means I coach you, damn.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
And that's why we dropped. And that's what yo. But
you know what that's People always ask.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
Like, what's it like in jail? And Yo, how come
people come out bitter and this and that? And words
really can't explain it, But it's that it's so many
situations that you forced to to co sign from your
silence because you want to go home, because.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
You want to get on that trailer.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
You know what I'm saying, because you ain't trying to
be in a box, beat up your property and damnstate
you in upstate, you know what I'm saying. And that's
the ship that when you getting there selling got to
look in the mirror when you know they pull that
nigga out that line for nothing. They getting ready to
do them dirty, and they like keep it moving, and
you know we got that trailer Friday, and your bitch
ain't trying to hear that, you know what I'm saying,

(01:23:58):
So you keep it pushing.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
But you feel like a sucker. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
That's the ship that break the nigga down, That's the
ship that make a nigga better, and that's and that's
but that's the energy that got you got to use
and say, all right, I did that at this situation,
but now I'm free.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
I can't do that ever again, ever again.

Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
Like fun, I'm not gonna put my position myself in
a position to be in that position again. But I'm
not gonna put myself in a position to where I
got a swile like that like that. I don't want
I don't never want to look at my kids and
say that I ain't do everything I could to make
them better people or make the world better for them.
I don't never want to add that conversation if I
got to sit in jail for some ship that I
that I lost my life or if I gotta lose

(01:24:39):
my life.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
For some ship that I know that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
You know, none of us want to Doctor King didn't
want to die, you know, Malcolms didn't want to die.
But they died doing the work that they know they
was put here to do. So people are like, yo,
you can't say this. I'm like, I don't know if
you can't say it, but my spirit tells me that's
what I'm supposed to say, and I'm moving in that.
That's the hormor move every everything about me.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
My wife this morning was like, why you gotta because
that's who I am.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
You married me because that's who I am. Now if
you change your mind, that's what you But I'm never
gonna stop being who I am. You gotta figure this out.
I'm not gonna stop. So you gotta figure out who
you are.

Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
And that's that is the balance and the challenge that
you gotta be with being who you are.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
Like you know who you are? Level spell bags this level,
you gotta balance it. That's it. You gotta gotta balance it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
Alima, be honest, brother, we really appreciate you and hip
hop Yo.

Speaker 6 (01:25:41):
You was down with Native right. I was the first nigga, Chris,
you were just interviewed, and what's that with Juju man?
I mean, let's always to Juju and he stepping on
our COVID. It was.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
Noticed, slipper. I felt like he had the way he lived.
Willis yes, like, yeah, he was. He sniffed him out.
I'm lying. I never I never never seen anything that

(01:26:26):
I ever said. Heard you. It's a lie.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
But you know, for podcast purposes, we gotta you know
your poem. I hate that, but I was the first Chris, Yes, yes, violator.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
You originated violator records records, oh you even boy management.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
Records records first snigger you before death, that relativity and
then I ain't gonna lie outside. We was talking and
you called him baby Chris. That was you called the
baby Chris.

Speaker 1 (01:27:01):
That's the baby Chris.

Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
Nigga called him baby quest Chris, Baby Chris.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
What's that? Barbara? That's how people you got Barber's. You
gotta relax, get them over there.

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
But violated, So describe us Chris Lighty in the eighties,
I mean Chris in the eighties.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
You gotta remember I was young.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
I'm like eleven, twelve thirteen when I met him, So
he was running around with the Jungle Brothers, running around
with Krus.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
He's just niggas.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
You know, I come home from school here, I'm doing
your work watching rap City, so you know, and then
I'm a bronx nigga. So like Karris One, like like
he was everything to me. Everything here rest the Jungle
Brothers and like when I record record, Chris, Yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
Know you have to teach you with the most disrespectful,
the most listen. I listened to Bridges over the other day.

Speaker 6 (01:27:55):
I wanted to shoot myself and big what I was.
So I was like, because that's care restman.

Speaker 3 (01:28:08):
I grew up to them and Chris brought me around them.
But how did you meet Chris through Latifa? Latifa? You
just say that Roddie always in the broad because Allison
and Kick of her dances lived in co Op and
it was like a summer like co Op City.

Speaker 6 (01:28:29):
So I'm from you know, I know co Op City
because you're the only other hood that got Terroces and we.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
Got left Rafcord.

Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
So I always in the co Op City was my niggas.
She was living with her dances that summer. Everybody was
coming like her dancers was bad, you know, they I
didn't know what then. I was young, but they was
around a little you know, you know, but not every
like special Lags E p m D. The Jungle everything,
talking about Tom. Everybody was coming through.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
You gotta relax, you E p m B.

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
With all of them used to be up there, so
thinks I'm eleven twelve, All of these niggas coming through.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
And then you had good head.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
You had all the brothers that went to high school together.
So it was chea, you coming upstairs. We cook it
all right, go in the living room. We're smoking that
type ship. So I used to just be around and
want to touch money love, but.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
I had to brush your back, love.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
You're still looking good at you, right baby? So it
was just yo. That's how I got with Chris because
they would be there him and shot him.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
I was real cold, bigger shot play. And one time
I probably came running flex right now, I need to
get with shot on net flex right shot. Yeah, we
gotta rife preserver, you know, we gotta do the the story.
We gotta lord, you gotta do it these streets. You
got it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
But and from that me and Christians developed a relationship
just running around like they was girls.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
So a lot of times he'ple like, you're coming with
me when I'm going over.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
Here, I'll be like all right, And then didn't show
with the Jungle Brothers at the Apollo.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
This niggas is history. Just Jesus hit us with mad history.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
You can't quit.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
I was you, it was crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
I'm glad I started young because I'm not as old
as I feel like I should be. You know what
I'm saying, Like I feel like most of them niggas
is closer to fifty. Yeah, and I'm forty. So are
you forty then forty? I'll be forty this year I'll
be forty one. And are you one year older than me?

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
I'm eleven days younger than Mice doing twenty five that.

Speaker 11 (01:30:47):
Yeah, I'm definitely twenty seven twenty seven nights.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
I'm sorry. You're right, I'm never onely twenty seven. No,
I'm young.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
Any listen, let me tell you something.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
So how did you meet Black Sheet Dress and Black Sheep?

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
How did you do them through Chris at the time.
I think when I signed, Chris was managing them. I
think he had helped him get the deal in PolyGram, so.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
PO ain't even around.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
No, more, look at the murcury, the universe, I think
on everything.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
You've been in the money for a long time, a.

Speaker 3 (01:31:24):
Long time, so so so so so what's the question again?

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
How did you be dressed?

Speaker 18 (01:31:34):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:31:34):
Yeah, so just being in the students. We used to
be at Calliope. I was recorded. I had just started
recording while he was recording. They was finishing up their album.
And Chris basically had told Dress.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
Like, you know, I was a kid. I was let
me twelve, like told Dress you was the first round.
I feel like.

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
Chris told Dress, you know, basically it was like, yo,
you know, y'all got to help with the project.

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
You know, Chris was the executive producer. He moles, don't
call in the shots.

Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
And then me and Dress just took to each other
because everybody was like, oh my god, y'all look like brothers.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
Look much like his mom. She was like, y'all look
like I mean, we like family now, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
But and then we just started hanging out like Dreds
just took me under the wind.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
This beautiful thing. Yo.

Speaker 6 (01:32:37):
I'm gonna be honest with you in case you didn't
never knew how much hip hop appreciate you, how much
hip hop owes you how much hip hop wants to
big you up.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Two homie and component like, yo on some real ship.
My man. I'm trying to get y'allut to have with
it in d C.

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
We got you like yo, y'all want to y'all got
one of my favorite rap brules. We got one of
the best rap albums. It's especially by a group like
and Everything.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
It was your dad. I love so topic ships.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
They said, they said, they said Chili is on the run,
And everywhere I was going, I.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
Was like, gee, you here, he had you chee, but
I ain't gonna I want the dress. One night you
had Jamaican on.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
I was insincing, and this thing used to write me
letters like yo.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
I was just at the show man, but I'm this
thing is he's going to ry. He on the run.
And then I heard the interview I did, and I'm like,
he was on the run like fifteen months. But you
said the nigger bags, I'd be like, your bags? You
think I should go ahead? Yeah? Man for that ship's
funny bags my back, yo.

Speaker 6 (01:33:55):
But my son, my me and Mice we've been speaking
a lot, like we've been speaking, and I wanted mice
to know that not only did I want to do
the interview, but I wanted to do I wanted a
special moment.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
You hit me at the blow and when you hit me.

Speaker 6 (01:34:14):
I was like, damn, I just want to put my
two ill look up to y'all, even though y'all could
probably pick me up and fuck that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
We all look up to each other. That's what makes
me like, so I fucks with y'all. So I said,
I'm a rather dude this together. So then you hit
me and you said he was gonna be in Miami.

Speaker 1 (01:34:33):
But I thought about it. I said, nah, I want
to hang with him in Miami.

Speaker 6 (01:34:37):
I don't want to come with you and your every
business and all this dumb ship. I'm about to do
this ship in New York. Let's get it knocked out.
But I'm just telling y'all, Bronx.

Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
Can be proud of y'all right now, because y'all are.
When I look at Bronx the praticle, I think of
Fat Jokes and I think of YouTube brothers appreciate. I
could never take it away from Fat Joke because that's
my brother and I love him.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
You know, we've been he's been around since I've been
around a long time. I love then take that from
and they too.

Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
Person yeah rich, But I didn't like the second this record,
the second one.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
I don't even think they even let it get too
fun to take that over YouTube right now? The second
what's the second second one? You're still on YouTube? The
first one I.

Speaker 6 (01:35:25):
Was in, I was in you did that, but the
second one and then now you know, big ship the
album is tough.

Speaker 1 (01:35:31):
They got a nice album.

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
Mom. The album is holl announce Drink Chance first it
was announced. So again, I just want to big your
brothers up.

Speaker 6 (01:35:43):
I want your brothers to know that in hip hop
sometimes we don't do this.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
We don't do what I'm doing right now. We don't
say you appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (01:35:55):
Brenda would have never threw her baby away if somebody
would have told Brenda you appreciate hate it. So this
is what I this is what I started this for.
I just want to tell people.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
See, your stories is one of the really stories in
hip hop. Both of you brother stories is one of
the most really stories in hip hop. But when I
looked at that flat teep Me interview, I watched you.

Speaker 1 (01:36:21):
And I looked at your mannerisms and I looked at it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
I said, that is an aura that should be represented
because you didn't pick it up, you didn't glorify it.

Speaker 6 (01:36:31):
He said, this is what I did, and I'm not
proud of it, and that right there should be the
pinnacle of how we.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
Teach our youth what you did.

Speaker 3 (01:36:43):
And I know probably you know I love Troy, but
Troy probably could look at this and say, GLORI, why
do you let it know? That is not what we did.
We are just letting people speak their truths. Your version
of the truth was so crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
Every real nigga in.

Speaker 6 (01:37:02):
The world sat back and said, that's how you're supposed
to do it. Me, I don't have the courage to
do that. I don't have the courage to sometimes call
somebody on their bullshit. But you did. And I'm not
saying his shit is bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
I'm not. I'm not. I'm not dicing him as.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
Tentpation to me, you know, because because whenever, whenever.

Speaker 6 (01:37:22):
You get on anywhere and you and you and you
start to big up something that should be picked up,
that should be shut down immediately, because we got to
we have responsibilities as adults.

Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
And I don't give a fuck if you don't want
to be a role model. Guess what, you a fucking
role model. There's somebody on that screen, there's somebody that
does something people think.

Speaker 6 (01:37:51):
So again, I'm not you know, I'm not shipping on
slime and no way shape form or fashion.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
But when you stepped up, first off you had did it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:00):
Uh the Instagram John, then you actually went to the
breakfast club. And when you went to the breafast club,
you explain yourself so accurately.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
You explain yourself so that I sat back and I.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
Was like, damn nice, and I was gonna call you,
but I said, you know what, let me let everybody
else call me, and I'm gonna call him later.

Speaker 6 (01:38:24):
Because I know he knows I appreciate what he's doing.
And so for us to be right here, right now,
there's nothing more than I want to do, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
I got this platform.

Speaker 6 (01:38:37):
So what you know, what's more important than about me
having this platform is me giving love views like you properly,
I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:47):
I don't want to.

Speaker 6 (01:38:47):
I don't want to interview these new guys. These new guys,
they got one record and they want to. You know,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:38:54):
You gotta you got you got you gotta earn your
ship to come overhead.

Speaker 15 (01:38:59):
Fuck the new guys, y'all, y'all ain't even know. I
can't see the world, hate your saturated miss you you're listening.
I say one thing, these are my No, No, you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:39:16):
The young niggas. You gotta.

Speaker 13 (01:39:17):
I'm just saying I don't got to you gotta care.
I don't even gotta do a care. But I understand that,
all right. It's not the which y'all say real hip
hop or the reginal No, that's not what I said.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
That never said.

Speaker 3 (01:39:30):
I'm saying over because they're saying, you know, niggas never
said that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
That.

Speaker 13 (01:39:37):
But I feel like then this is just saving ain't
us some certain stans like getting up getting like who
kind of kids?

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
I was not not you you gotta I got a kid.
I'm directly and you can't gotta care.

Speaker 1 (01:39:51):
One, you gotta care.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
And two to the reason why I can't interview new
niggas is because I've never been on tour with them.

Speaker 11 (01:40:00):
I never.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
I never have a relationship. I never, I never. I
never seen them on the run and they come to
my shows like that's different. This nigga was on and
run in my show like you g I almost want
to say, you gotta relax, but he came and he
came with eat money bags.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
That's history, that's relationship. Am I saying the new niggas
can't build their history. Of course they can, but not here,
not now.

Speaker 1 (01:40:29):
You're not to do slime.

Speaker 3 (01:40:32):
But the more you come up, I'm gonna watch it
because the one thing for show or two things for
certain I gotta respect creativity, creativity.

Speaker 6 (01:40:42):
I don't give a fuck even if you don't like it.
I'm gonna respect creativity.

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
Expressing yourself because it's expression. People gotta earn you too,
people gotta learn it.

Speaker 6 (01:40:52):
So the thing is with me is I actually had
a manager, that nigga that he talked about me. He said, Chris,
I actually had a manager that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
Actually cared about my creativity, and he actually cared about
my financial That doesn't exist. Almost these niggas donna give
a fuck about you. The nigga's gonna come, they're gonna say,
all right, cool, you got a good record, You beat
a bougie and that's it.

Speaker 6 (01:41:18):
So what I'm trying to say is I want to
big up to people who survived the era that I
survived to survive the fucking shit, and it ain't about
financial because you can survive and you can still be down.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
I want to respect the people that went through what
I went through and more and they still did like
a man because it's so terrible. This business is horrible.
It's so horrible.

Speaker 6 (01:41:48):
I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna lie. I'm a smile
for you as soon as the camera go off. This
ship is not that way. So when I smiled when
the camera's off, that's genuine. But you've ever seen Karye, You've.

Speaker 1 (01:42:01):
Seen on me black.

Speaker 6 (01:42:03):
Then he see the camera on and be like, you
know what that is? That's pain. It's pain because he's
been fronting so long. I'm not saying front like in
a bad way.

Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
It looks at the chain work again. You can't wear
your jewelry and queens no more City boy d. They
try to. They try to snatch him. They whip him out.
They got it, they whipped him out, but they try
to snatch the chain.

Speaker 3 (01:42:25):
Come to queens anytime or Jerry had you gotta yesterday
it was rough for you.

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
Let's make the name of city boy. But listen, let's
got his shine, he got his ship, He got his ship.
Yeah yeah, Hill, he will kill whoever.

Speaker 3 (01:42:43):
I won't over there, but my bros nigga Mike Move,
Mike Move. He never put me in a headlock. He
put me in a headlocked yesterday. He was like, everybody,
you're the only one that can't swing. I'm but listen.
Hip hop deserves to continue to continue to celebrate hip hop.
We deserve our people, City Boy, the young really, motherfucking

(01:43:07):
who else.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
We deserve to sit back and just continue to support each.

Speaker 3 (01:43:14):
Other because if we don't, there will be nobody else
that support us. So when you got a legend like
she I leave with the Mond Cleare T shirt on,
that's very expressive t shirt, very expencive at least eight
at least.

Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
But we gotta continue. We gotta continue to do that.
And my song that's how we own it. We love it.
You got to remake.

Speaker 3 (01:43:39):
I got that point, okay, one point. I got media
game together a little bit and got a record. Let's
talk about this record.

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
Let's talk about the record. Let's talk about the body. Body.
We just finished relation suous. I don't know that man, women, women, female,
Oh body that's from the Brocks. You can't we have

(01:44:11):
a ready. You gotta say female the Brocks. You can't
somebody I'm a fan, so my son. These niggas catching
on the kids. It's funny. Too much keeping it from you.

Speaker 11 (01:44:29):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
Please change it to female.

Speaker 3 (01:44:31):
But yeah, y'all too, can't already terror of the video? Come,
you got to see the video though we don't already
we shot already.

Speaker 1 (01:44:40):
I don't know what the film is on filmed it.
You can't say this film out triggered. You can't trigger around,
you can't alright, gonna let your niggas, my nigga, I'm
so sorry. I went too far, know and you took

(01:45:00):
a straight shot of survive.

Speaker 3 (01:45:03):
That's all I drinks delicate.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
I'm gonna tell you this though. If I put you
in the bell, you're not getting out.

Speaker 18 (01:45:21):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:45:21):
See. I can't think you about enough. Listen. I want
to continue to support. I don't want to even say
real niggas.

Speaker 6 (01:45:29):
I want to continue to say I want to support
substance offense, you.

Speaker 1 (01:45:36):
Know, just like authenticity.

Speaker 6 (01:45:44):
But I want to continue to support niggas like you, brothers,
because you know why behind the scenes, when a person
say a person is a real nigga, that's one thing.
But then what happens when it is behind the scenes,
when the nigga could actually say it there and give
you a five and laugh. That to me is a
real nigga. Like all the realist niggas I ever met,

(01:46:07):
was never loud. The loud niggas the pussy nigga, and
I'm loud, so maybe I might be pussy too. But
the loud nigga, what I'm saying, is the nigga that
assists there and has fun and he smiles. That's the
nigga I'm always worried about because I know that he wanted,
he got something to rest. But when the gods just

(01:46:29):
and this is what we got to continue to support
and hip hop. And I really can't thank you enough.
Che Thank you appreciate having about hanging out in Miami.
I did this here unless come to Miami. It's a
totally different.

Speaker 1 (01:46:44):
I mean, I'll be like that I'm different in Miami,
but my song.

Speaker 6 (01:46:56):
I can't thank you enough because you know what I'm
going to continue to do it I gotta do. That's
how we wanted the remixes out Body.

Speaker 3 (01:47:03):
Body So videos that I'm gonna click the link in
my bio b x mice On in what general Instagram
b X mice on and y general look at you.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
That's how the dream if the Bronx, it's not.

Speaker 6 (01:47:22):
If you felt like the Bronx wasn't alive, the Bronx
is alive tonight. Wow today b X's reign supreme other
than the Bridges over record, I kind of still don't.

Speaker 1 (01:47:33):
I don't really like that my brother show. That's my nigga.
D I t telling me studio studio is tough. You
gotta listening parties over that. That's my nephew. I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (01:47:55):
I gotta be holler on your nephew. You gotta be
horder on your fan to thank y'all once again. And
we're gonna go on up balcony and smoke us cheap
and wanting to smoke this back way forever.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
You can't. You you were like, I ain't gonna lie drinking.
Came over here getting wet right now, and you drink
it straight. I ain't gonna lie. I was worried.

Speaker 3 (01:48:17):
Drink stomach, and I'm an drink chap. I'm an alcoholic
and I'm not even drinking straight. When I looked, I said, damn,
but I wanted you to get drunk because that's that's
my wholehood.

Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
But at the same talking as a friend, I was
worried about you. You let's do it. I'm not drink,
I gotta picture and

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