May 19, 2026 • 18 mins
We here at Everybody’s Business are big fans of our colleagues and friends over at Big Take, Bloomberg’s daily news podcast. They just released and episode hosted by our very own Stacey Vanek Smith and we'd love to share it. Please enjoy, and hop on over to subscribe to their feed if you like what you hear!——The oldest Gen Alphas are still in high school, but some of the early reviews have been scathing. Unruly. Nihilistic. Bad at reading. Yet when Bloomberg Businessweek’s Stacey Vanek Smith dug into the research, she emerged with a more optimistic view on the most online generation yet. Tech savvy. Globally minded. Also, preternaturally good at skincare.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Stacy Vanixsmith here from Everybody's Business. Today, we're sharing an
episode from one of our favorite Bloomberg podcasts, The Big Take.
I spoke with David Gura about BusinessWeek's Jen Alpha series
and why they're the generation we should keep our attention on.
We'll be back with a new episode of Everybody's Business
this Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
What is going on with Jen Alpho.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I'm genuinely terrified for this next generation of children.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
There is no before for them. There is no analog
childhood or a memory of one. These children have access
to so much media and so much content consumption.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I decided to work at a summer campus year, and
I didn't understand the severity of the brain rot.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Stacey, I'm hearing griping from one generation about the generation
it's following it. This is a time honored routine. This
has happened generation after generation after When did all of
this start?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Okay, boomer has been happening for thousands of years.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yes, we have this with Generation X generation. Why here
we are they're now grousing about Generation Alpha? What is
being critiqued or criticized among this the youngest generation.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It gets very vitriolic when you start looking into it.
If you go on social media and TikTok and things
like that, you will see a lot of teachers, camp
counselors really complaining about how unruly the Alphas are. I
think seventh grade they are still performed on the fourth
grade level.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Your kids cannot read, they cannot write.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Jen Alpha students are raised in a world that tells
them that it's okay to be as nihilistic and individualistic
as possible, that they don't have to care about anything
or any one.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I need to ask millennials, why are your kids so awful?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I got to ask you, how deep into the algorithm
did you have to go to find this level of criticism.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It's pretty out there on the circus. Yes, I feel
like there's an issue of the normal criticisms of a
younger generation, and it's now amplified by data. Also, the
Alphas are just about to start entering the workforce. They
have a big leg up with AI, with technology, with
social media and things like that, so I think there's
maybe some fear of their presence in the workforce too.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
And that is what you've written about, that is their superpower.
When it comes to their technological facility.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I mean, obviously we are all wondering how AI is
going to transform our workplace, and these kids are going
to be in a much better position than certainly I am.
You know, the Alphas are digital natives, they're social media natives.
They've grown up sometimes inside of virtual worlds as well
as in the real world, and so navigating these two
worlds is not going to be the challenge for them
(02:39):
that it is like for me. The other thing about
the Alphas is they're about to become consumers. They're about
to start earning their own money, but they already command
more money than people their age typically have in the past.
They're apparently directly responsible for one hundred billion dollars worth
of spending, which is extraordinary.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
One hundred billion dollars in annual spending in the US
alone is attributed to this generation. Forgive me for just
being astounded by that.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
It is astounding. But also they apparently have more influence
over how their families spend money than a lot of
previous generations. So they are dictating everything from the cars
their families drive, to the trips their families take, to
the streaming services they sign up for the Alphas are
just present in the economy in a way that previous
generations were not at their age.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I'm David Gura, and this is the Big Take from
Bloomberg News Today. On the show, I'm talking to Bloomberg
BusinessWeek senior writer and co host of the Everybody's Business
podcast Stacy Vanocksmith about Generation Alpha. Who are they, why
are they making waves before many of them are out
of middle school, and how is their entrepreneurship and spending
reshaping the retail landscape. What are the date parameters that
(04:02):
we're talking about here?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Well, first, David, I do want to acknowledge that in
a certain way, you know a lot more about Generation
Alpha than I do. As the parent of three Alpha.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I have three alphas, I said to one of our producers.
I'm unsure if any of them identifies as an Alpha.
I will follow up and ask afterward. But yes, born
between What are the date parameters for Generation Alpha?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yes, so there is some disagreement, but generally speaking, Generation
Alphas were born between twenty ten and twenty twenty four,
twenty twenty five, okay, so basically between the ages of
one and sixteen years old. It is the largest generation
that's ever existed. It's about twenty five percent of the population.
(04:41):
And I think part of the concerns about the generation
are actually not coming from a nefarious place, because a
lot of these kids had huge milestones happened during the pandemic.
During lockdown, you know, scientists and sociologists are worried about
the effect of the pandemic, and then they underwent such
a massive transition, you know, being home all the time
(05:04):
and then now back in school, and so a lot
of the concern and examination of this generation happened because
I think people were unsure what the effects of that were.
I do think the genesis of a lot of the
kind of worry, which has of course transitioned into criticism,
came from that sacy.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
What is different about the way these kids have grown
up or I guess are growing up compared to past generations.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I mean, I think one of the big things is screens,
because during the pandemic we were all home, a lot
of socializing education, All of that happened necessarily in a
lot of cases entirely through screens. Add to that sort
of the growing world of social media, the growing world
of games like Roadblocks and You've got a generation that
(05:52):
sort of moves between worlds in a way that other
generations don't, So I think there are a lot of
worries about that. Also attention spans with the screens, there
are a lot of worries about alpha's brains. Essentially they're
reading comprehension, their ability to interact with people outside of
screens like in real life. Also their ability to respect
authority interact in social situations that are offline. So these
(06:15):
are some of the worries and criticisms about the alphas.
And then also there are comments about their self discipline. Okay,
that there may be a little less disciplined. Apparently some
millennial parents engage in gentle parenting, which created a lot
of skepticism.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
We don't have to get into that. Now, there's a
level of tech fluency here. This generation had to do
a lot online during the pandemic, and that's led to
this kind of early awareness of what's trendy. It's made
them this economic force.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yes, so a lot of these kids, I mean, they
have a lot of the habits and tendencies that kids
always have, you know, starting little businesses, making things, creating,
but they can do that on these platforms where they have.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
This ease of use.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
So we're talking about like roadblocks and other virtually.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah yeah, or even Instagram things like that where they
can make something and the world can see it, where
they can record something. They can sing or dance or
all the things that little kids have always done, but
they have this potentially international audience.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Transcends the neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It transcends the neighborhood, it transcends the state, the country,
so they can really build something incredibly fast. I think
they think bigger as a result of that.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Hi, my name is Riley. This is my dad John.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
You talked to a few of these folks. One is
Riley Peterson, a sixteen year old in Maine.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
We own Gunnar and Lucks together. I'm the manager.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
App tell us a bit about Riley. Who is Riley?
How'd she get her start as an entrepreneur?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So? Riley got her start as an entrepreneur when she
was five and she was making jewelry out of these
little plastic toy animals that she had.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So I didn't have much truly growing up, two dads in.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
All, we just didn't have a lot of jewelry and stuff.
We just didn't think about it.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
So they were like, hey, friends, can you get jewelry? Jewelery?
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Hello?
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Yeah, some friends brought over like a box of jewelry
and she sort of went through it.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I was like, oh, like any of this, this is
all horrendous. I need my own stuff, thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
You know, at the time, we were working on some
stuff in the house, so we had pliers and so
I was just kind of teaching her how to use pliers.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
So I took my dad's tools and like, thank you. This, yes, things,
this is this, got what I wanted.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
We had a bunch of these little plastic animals, so
we put those up onto the necklaces and I'm like,
you know what.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I have too much stuff. I need to sell it
at my lemonade.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Stand, which is just a very typical kid thing. But
her dad took a couple of pictures of this and
posted it on Instagram, and her business absolutely took off.
I mean, I know, right, what happened to my lemonade stand?
Nothing like that.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I will tell you, dam oh your parents for the
cought get it off the ground.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yes yeah, I still owe back pay on the lemons.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
How quickly did this happen. What do you know about
the kind of the speed with which this turned from
that a lemonade dan where she was selling crafts and
dio this much bigger thing.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I think it wasn't even a year before Barney's contacted
them and said, let's have a meeting. We want to
talk with you about a partnership.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
Yeah, I remember you were in dance class and then
Barney's New York called, like.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
The middle of ballet. My dad like sets us like,
hey this Barney's can you come down? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
It was pretty neat, and then she started getting press,
and all of a sudden it was this kind of
fun international brand of jewelry for kids essentially, which is
a really smart idea. But I think it happened on
a scale that it never would have happened before. And
now it's about ten years later, and she's done partnerships
with Jay Crewe and all of these huge brands, and
(09:56):
she very much considers herself like a partner in this
business with her dad, and her dad very much considers
her a full partner too.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
How unique a story is this, How does this what
Riley has done, what she's doing, fit into this broader
conversation about Jen Alpha as a force in business and
a force in spending as well.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
She's certainly an exceptional case, but I will say that
she's less exceptional than she would have been twenty years ago.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
After the break why One researcher says the future is
bright for Gen Alpha and is their economic spending power
really here to stay? Stacey, you talked to the woman
who's written the book on generational for or at least
(10:48):
a book on Generation Alpha. What did she tell you
about this generation?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yes, her name is Ashley Fell. She's the author of
Generation Alpha, Understanding Our Children and Helping Them Thrive, And
she had great things to say about this general Ch're positive,
very positive, the opposite of what we were hearing from teachers,
although she did acknowledge those issues exist, but she really,
through studying this generation, sees a lot of extraordinary traits
(11:12):
in them as well, including teamwork, empathy, honesty.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
They're almost at an older psyche at a younger age.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
She said, they're exceptionally creative, they think really big and
sort of across disciplines, and she thinks they're quite a
special generation in a lot of ways. Partially because you know,
we're right now we're in a moment where we're all
pretty siloed and where you know, globalization, free trade, a
lot of that has gone away a little bit. She
thinks the alphas will unquestionably bring that back because they're
(11:44):
so connected to each other, they're connected to world events.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Because of the technology that they consume and the way
that it's presented, they're more likely almost to know what's
going on across the world, maybe than their local neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
In good ways and bad kids under eight now spend
a couple hours a day on average looking at screens.
By age four, about sixty percent of kids own it
tablets wow sage four, Yeah, age four, And so they
are consumers in an exceptionally sophisticated way. More than two
thirds of alpha's own a luxury product by age ten.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
And that's what that's a a handbag perfume. What are
we talking about here?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yes, and yes. For for female alphas, it tends to
be a lot of cosmetics, a lot of skincare, and
a lot of anti aging.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Skincare page of four.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yes, yes, like wrinkle you know, the sort of twelve
step skincare. Korean skincare has become a huge thing very
much fueled by the alpha's. Sephora is packed full of alphas.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
You think Sephora, you think, you know Gen z's and
millennial women and other generations, But it was populated by
you know, thirteen to fifteen year old gen alphas who
are buying sophisticated retinal products aimed at millennium you know.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So it was this kind of I think that was
almost like upaging in real time.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
A lot of Alpha boys are also into skincare. This
has become a big thing. And she said there was
a big trend among boys for very very high end
colognes for young boys. They would get the in very
rural places, but they are all tapped into these global
trends and they're getting very expensive colognes.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
But to be clear, here at Stacey, whose money are
most of the kids, And they are kids in this
generation spending I guess in some cases theirs, but often.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
They're spending your money. They're spending your money. They are
basically wielding, for the most part enormous power over how
their families spend. They are bringing their own concerns into
a lot of family purchases, things like environmental concerns, global concerns,
political concerns. They're raising the awareness within their families, so
(13:55):
things like food and streaming services. Cars.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Have you been told that's happy with it?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
No, Well, this is very normal tough economy. It is
a tough economy right now. And also trips and vacations,
which apparently is sort of a mix between kids raising
concerns and desires to go places. Also being much more
aware of places to go than previous generations were. They're like,
I want to go here, I saw it online, things
(14:24):
like that, and you know, just holding more sway over
families than you know, certainly I did. My parents never
resked my input on where I wanted to go. I
don't know if you were ever asked your input, never exactly.
I mean, I think just like the level of lifestyle
and cosmopolitans is huge among kids right now.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
How are those companies, companies in those sectors capitalizing all
of this? Have they acknowledged Are they aware of the
fact that there's so much buying power?
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, companies I think are excited about about this because
you know, there's always this youth obsession with products, because
they want to lock people in early to their brands
because then you know that loyalty can stick and this
can be a customer for decades. But now because the
little kids are so much more brand aware. Sorry I
shouldn't call them little kids, because these young adults are
(15:18):
so much more brand aware. I think they would, but
I think, you know, they are much more aware of
brands than previous generations, and so their loyalty can be
one over at a much younger age. Things like they're
much more politically involved and aware than kids in previous generations,
(15:38):
so you can appeal to them that way. They're much
more aware of their own individual preferences. And these were
things that Riley talked about too. She said, the jewelry
she sells political jewelry like Resist. There was a whole
Resist necklaces. But you know, even things like I love science,
I love reading, people want to express that immediately. So
brands are kind of locking into that. Expressing environmental awareness,
(16:01):
environmental concerns, things like that our ways brands can kind
of attract the alphas.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I imagine there are probably a lot of companies saying, look,
we've hooked these kids young, there'll be our customers for life.
Is that the sense that you're getting from both Generation
Alpha and these companies. How susceptible is all this to
economic shocks.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I was wondering that myself. I mean, if as things
get more expensive, if budgets start to come into effect
or financial distress for a lot of families, I think
that could probably have a big impact over the power
of the alphas. I mean, during the pandemic was a
time of record savings for a lot of American families.
That is totally reversed, which means the influenced kids can
(16:44):
have will probably reverse too, because they're not in direct
control of a lot of this money, as you pointed out,
So I do think maybe some of this influence will
fade a bit, But also the degree to which these
kids are tapped in to the economy, to each other,
to the world, that's not going away. So I think
(17:05):
that this is probably still going to have legs, if
not for the immediate future where maybe families are pulling back,
for the longer term future for sure.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
To stay. Say, I wanted to bring you back in
because you know, I said, I didn't know if my
kids identified.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
As Yes, yes, I remember, I asked them, Okay.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
In fact, they are familiar with the term. They use
it okay, and they thought I was totally lame and
old for having to ask that question.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
So they like they they're like, of course we're alpha's,
you're old.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
For not no, Yeah, yeah, dad, come on, which is
just the general general vibe that I get. This is
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Speaker 5 (18:01):
You s
Stacy Vanixsmith here from Everybody's Business. Today, we're sharing an
episode from one of our favorite Bloomberg podcasts, The Big Take.
I spoke with David Gura about BusinessWeek's Jen Alpha series
and why they're the generation we should keep our attention on.
We'll be back with a new episode of Everybody's Business
this Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
What is going on with Jen Alpho.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I'm genuinely terrified for this next generation of children.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
There is no before for them. There is no analog
childhood or a memory of one. These children have access
to so much media and so much content consumption.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I decided to work at a summer campus year, and
I didn't understand the severity of the brain rot.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Stacey, I'm hearing griping from one generation about the generation
it's following it. This is a time honored routine. This
has happened generation after generation after When did all of
this start?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Okay, boomer has been happening for thousands of years.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yes, we have this with Generation X generation. Why here
we are they're now grousing about Generation Alpha? What is
being critiqued or criticized among this the youngest generation.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It gets very vitriolic when you start looking into it.
If you go on social media and TikTok and things
like that, you will see a lot of teachers, camp
counselors really complaining about how unruly the Alphas are. I
think seventh grade they are still performed on the fourth
grade level.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Your kids cannot read, they cannot write.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Jen Alpha students are raised in a world that tells
them that it's okay to be as nihilistic and individualistic
as possible, that they don't have to care about anything
or any one.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I need to ask millennials, why are your kids so awful?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I got to ask you, how deep into the algorithm
did you have to go to find this level of criticism.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It's pretty out there on the circus. Yes, I feel
like there's an issue of the normal criticisms of a
younger generation, and it's now amplified by data. Also, the
Alphas are just about to start entering the workforce. They
have a big leg up with AI, with technology, with
social media and things like that, so I think there's
maybe some fear of their presence in the workforce too.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
And that is what you've written about, that is their superpower.
When it comes to their technological facility.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I mean, obviously we are all wondering how AI is
going to transform our workplace, and these kids are going
to be in a much better position than certainly I am.
You know, the Alphas are digital natives, they're social media natives.
They've grown up sometimes inside of virtual worlds as well
as in the real world, and so navigating these two
worlds is not going to be the challenge for them
(02:39):
that it is like for me. The other thing about
the Alphas is they're about to become consumers. They're about
to start earning their own money, but they already command
more money than people their age typically have in the past.
They're apparently directly responsible for one hundred billion dollars worth
of spending, which is extraordinary.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
One hundred billion dollars in annual spending in the US
alone is attributed to this generation. Forgive me for just
being astounded by that.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
It is astounding. But also they apparently have more influence
over how their families spend money than a lot of
previous generations. So they are dictating everything from the cars
their families drive, to the trips their families take, to
the streaming services they sign up for the Alphas are
just present in the economy in a way that previous
generations were not at their age.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I'm David Gura, and this is the Big Take from
Bloomberg News Today. On the show, I'm talking to Bloomberg
BusinessWeek senior writer and co host of the Everybody's Business
podcast Stacy Vanocksmith about Generation Alpha. Who are they, why
are they making waves before many of them are out
of middle school, and how is their entrepreneurship and spending
reshaping the retail landscape. What are the date parameters that
(04:02):
we're talking about here?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Well, first, David, I do want to acknowledge that in
a certain way, you know a lot more about Generation
Alpha than I do. As the parent of three Alpha.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I have three alphas, I said to one of our producers.
I'm unsure if any of them identifies as an Alpha.
I will follow up and ask afterward. But yes, born
between What are the date parameters for Generation Alpha?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yes, so there is some disagreement, but generally speaking, Generation
Alphas were born between twenty ten and twenty twenty four,
twenty twenty five, okay, so basically between the ages of
one and sixteen years old. It is the largest generation
that's ever existed. It's about twenty five percent of the population.
(04:41):
And I think part of the concerns about the generation
are actually not coming from a nefarious place, because a
lot of these kids had huge milestones happened during the pandemic.
During lockdown, you know, scientists and sociologists are worried about
the effect of the pandemic, and then they underwent such
a massive transition, you know, being home all the time
(05:04):
and then now back in school, and so a lot
of the concern and examination of this generation happened because
I think people were unsure what the effects of that were.
I do think the genesis of a lot of the
kind of worry, which has of course transitioned into criticism,
came from that sacy.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
What is different about the way these kids have grown
up or I guess are growing up compared to past generations.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I mean, I think one of the big things is screens,
because during the pandemic we were all home, a lot
of socializing education, All of that happened necessarily in a
lot of cases entirely through screens. Add to that sort
of the growing world of social media, the growing world
of games like Roadblocks and You've got a generation that
(05:52):
sort of moves between worlds in a way that other
generations don't, So I think there are a lot of
worries about that. Also attention spans with the screens, there
are a lot of worries about alpha's brains. Essentially they're
reading comprehension, their ability to interact with people outside of
screens like in real life. Also their ability to respect
authority interact in social situations that are offline. So these
(06:15):
are some of the worries and criticisms about the alphas.
And then also there are comments about their self discipline. Okay,
that there may be a little less disciplined. Apparently some
millennial parents engage in gentle parenting, which created a lot
of skepticism.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
We don't have to get into that. Now, there's a
level of tech fluency here. This generation had to do
a lot online during the pandemic, and that's led to
this kind of early awareness of what's trendy. It's made
them this economic force.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yes, so a lot of these kids, I mean, they
have a lot of the habits and tendencies that kids
always have, you know, starting little businesses, making things, creating,
but they can do that on these platforms where they have.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
This ease of use.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
So we're talking about like roadblocks and other virtually.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah yeah, or even Instagram things like that where they
can make something and the world can see it, where
they can record something. They can sing or dance or
all the things that little kids have always done, but
they have this potentially international audience.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Transcends the neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It transcends the neighborhood, it transcends the state, the country,
so they can really build something incredibly fast. I think
they think bigger as a result of that.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Hi, my name is Riley. This is my dad John.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
You talked to a few of these folks. One is
Riley Peterson, a sixteen year old in Maine.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
We own Gunnar and Lucks together. I'm the manager.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
App tell us a bit about Riley. Who is Riley?
How'd she get her start as an entrepreneur?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So? Riley got her start as an entrepreneur when she
was five and she was making jewelry out of these
little plastic toy animals that she had.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So I didn't have much truly growing up, two dads in.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
All, we just didn't have a lot of jewelry and stuff.
We just didn't think about it.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
So they were like, hey, friends, can you get jewelry? Jewelery?
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Hello?
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Yeah, some friends brought over like a box of jewelry
and she sort of went through it.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I was like, oh, like any of this, this is
all horrendous. I need my own stuff, thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
You know, at the time, we were working on some
stuff in the house, so we had pliers and so
I was just kind of teaching her how to use pliers.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
So I took my dad's tools and like, thank you. This, yes, things,
this is this, got what I wanted.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
We had a bunch of these little plastic animals, so
we put those up onto the necklaces and I'm like,
you know what.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I have too much stuff. I need to sell it
at my lemonade.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Stand, which is just a very typical kid thing. But
her dad took a couple of pictures of this and
posted it on Instagram, and her business absolutely took off.
I mean, I know, right, what happened to my lemonade stand?
Nothing like that.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I will tell you, dam oh your parents for the
cought get it off the ground.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yes yeah, I still owe back pay on the lemons.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
How quickly did this happen. What do you know about
the kind of the speed with which this turned from
that a lemonade dan where she was selling crafts and
dio this much bigger thing.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I think it wasn't even a year before Barney's contacted
them and said, let's have a meeting. We want to
talk with you about a partnership.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
Yeah, I remember you were in dance class and then
Barney's New York called, like.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
The middle of ballet. My dad like sets us like,
hey this Barney's can you come down? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
It was pretty neat, and then she started getting press,
and all of a sudden it was this kind of
fun international brand of jewelry for kids essentially, which is
a really smart idea. But I think it happened on
a scale that it never would have happened before. And
now it's about ten years later, and she's done partnerships
with Jay Crewe and all of these huge brands, and
(09:56):
she very much considers herself like a partner in this
business with her dad, and her dad very much considers
her a full partner too.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
How unique a story is this, How does this what
Riley has done, what she's doing, fit into this broader
conversation about Jen Alpha as a force in business and
a force in spending as well.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
She's certainly an exceptional case, but I will say that
she's less exceptional than she would have been twenty years ago.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
After the break why One researcher says the future is
bright for Gen Alpha and is their economic spending power
really here to stay? Stacey, you talked to the woman
who's written the book on generational for or at least
(10:48):
a book on Generation Alpha. What did she tell you
about this generation?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yes, her name is Ashley Fell. She's the author of
Generation Alpha, Understanding Our Children and Helping Them Thrive, And
she had great things to say about this general Ch're positive,
very positive, the opposite of what we were hearing from teachers,
although she did acknowledge those issues exist, but she really,
through studying this generation, sees a lot of extraordinary traits
(11:12):
in them as well, including teamwork, empathy, honesty.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
They're almost at an older psyche at a younger age.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
She said, they're exceptionally creative, they think really big and
sort of across disciplines, and she thinks they're quite a
special generation in a lot of ways. Partially because you know,
we're right now we're in a moment where we're all
pretty siloed and where you know, globalization, free trade, a
lot of that has gone away a little bit. She
thinks the alphas will unquestionably bring that back because they're
(11:44):
so connected to each other, they're connected to world events.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Because of the technology that they consume and the way
that it's presented, they're more likely almost to know what's
going on across the world, maybe than their local neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
In good ways and bad kids under eight now spend
a couple hours a day on average looking at screens.
By age four, about sixty percent of kids own it
tablets wow sage four, Yeah, age four, And so they
are consumers in an exceptionally sophisticated way. More than two
thirds of alpha's own a luxury product by age ten.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
And that's what that's a a handbag perfume. What are
we talking about here?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yes, and yes. For for female alphas, it tends to
be a lot of cosmetics, a lot of skincare, and
a lot of anti aging.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Skincare page of four.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yes, yes, like wrinkle you know, the sort of twelve
step skincare. Korean skincare has become a huge thing very
much fueled by the alpha's. Sephora is packed full of alphas.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
You think Sephora, you think, you know Gen z's and
millennial women and other generations, But it was populated by
you know, thirteen to fifteen year old gen alphas who
are buying sophisticated retinal products aimed at millennium you know.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So it was this kind of I think that was
almost like upaging in real time.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
A lot of Alpha boys are also into skincare. This
has become a big thing. And she said there was
a big trend among boys for very very high end
colognes for young boys. They would get the in very
rural places, but they are all tapped into these global
trends and they're getting very expensive colognes.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
But to be clear, here at Stacey, whose money are
most of the kids, And they are kids in this
generation spending I guess in some cases theirs, but often.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
They're spending your money. They're spending your money. They are
basically wielding, for the most part enormous power over how
their families spend. They are bringing their own concerns into
a lot of family purchases, things like environmental concerns, global concerns,
political concerns. They're raising the awareness within their families, so
(13:55):
things like food and streaming services. Cars.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Have you been told that's happy with it?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
No, Well, this is very normal tough economy. It is
a tough economy right now. And also trips and vacations,
which apparently is sort of a mix between kids raising
concerns and desires to go places. Also being much more
aware of places to go than previous generations were. They're like,
I want to go here, I saw it online, things
(14:24):
like that, and you know, just holding more sway over
families than you know, certainly I did. My parents never
resked my input on where I wanted to go. I
don't know if you were ever asked your input, never exactly.
I mean, I think just like the level of lifestyle
and cosmopolitans is huge among kids right now.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
How are those companies, companies in those sectors capitalizing all
of this? Have they acknowledged Are they aware of the
fact that there's so much buying power?
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, companies I think are excited about about this because
you know, there's always this youth obsession with products, because
they want to lock people in early to their brands
because then you know that loyalty can stick and this
can be a customer for decades. But now because the
little kids are so much more brand aware. Sorry I
shouldn't call them little kids, because these young adults are
(15:18):
so much more brand aware. I think they would, but
I think, you know, they are much more aware of
brands than previous generations, and so their loyalty can be
one over at a much younger age. Things like they're
much more politically involved and aware than kids in previous generations,
(15:38):
so you can appeal to them that way. They're much
more aware of their own individual preferences. And these were
things that Riley talked about too. She said, the jewelry
she sells political jewelry like Resist. There was a whole
Resist necklaces. But you know, even things like I love science,
I love reading, people want to express that immediately. So
brands are kind of locking into that. Expressing environmental awareness,
(16:01):
environmental concerns, things like that our ways brands can kind
of attract the alphas.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I imagine there are probably a lot of companies saying, look,
we've hooked these kids young, there'll be our customers for life.
Is that the sense that you're getting from both Generation
Alpha and these companies. How susceptible is all this to
economic shocks.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I was wondering that myself. I mean, if as things
get more expensive, if budgets start to come into effect
or financial distress for a lot of families, I think
that could probably have a big impact over the power
of the alphas. I mean, during the pandemic was a
time of record savings for a lot of American families.
That is totally reversed, which means the influenced kids can
(16:44):
have will probably reverse too, because they're not in direct
control of a lot of this money, as you pointed out,
So I do think maybe some of this influence will
fade a bit, But also the degree to which these
kids are tapped in to the economy, to each other,
to the world, that's not going away. So I think
(17:05):
that this is probably still going to have legs, if
not for the immediate future where maybe families are pulling back,
for the longer term future for sure.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
To stay. Say, I wanted to bring you back in
because you know, I said, I didn't know if my
kids identified.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
As Yes, yes, I remember, I asked them, Okay.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
In fact, they are familiar with the term. They use
it okay, and they thought I was totally lame and
old for having to ask that question.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
So they like they they're like, of course we're alpha's,
you're old.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
For not no, Yeah, yeah, dad, come on, which is
just the general general vibe that I get. This is
the Big Take from Bloomberg News. I'm David Gerra. To
get more from the Big Take and unlimited access to
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Speaker 5 (18:01):
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