203: My Case Study With Ken Jenkins

On this week's episode, JD defies Dr. Cox's wishes and strives for success in a competition Dr. Kelso is running amongst the residents. In the real world, Zach and Donald are joined by Kelso himself, Ken Jenkins.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, guys, he is there, he is, I'm well, how
are you well?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
You know, the world spins madly on.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
It does spin madly on, and at a furious pace too.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
It just keeps going and uh and you just keep
moving forward.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
And that's all you can do. Really. You know, what's
past it a Kuna matata lion King says it best.
What's in the past is the past. Let's talk about
moving forward into the future and making it so that
the past never All the negative things I should say
in the past never repeat themselves.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
The planet spins, and the world spins madly on.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Joel Dan, how are you guys? You know, I've realized
that when I log on, we usually just jump right
into the show and I never really get the opportunity
to ask you, guys, how are you doing? How are
you holding up?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Well?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
It's good.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Hill Inside. Sleep is a myth. There's no such thing
asleep anymore. Insundia a full full force. Other than that,
you know, it's it's good. I was able to leave
the house. I went to a drive in. Have you
guys been to the mission?

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Hill Tiki?

Speaker 6 (01:15):
Drive in?

Speaker 3 (01:15):
No, No, listen.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
If you need to get out and you want to
see a movie. That's the place to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
They've got like all these old like burger joint stands
around there, so you can like pick up some food
through drive through, drive straight into the drive through. It's
a bunch of like billboards that are sectioned off. And
we saw a double feature of Jaws and Tremors.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Nice well Jaws, yes, Tremors. It was okay, Yeah, it's okay. Jaws. However,
still to this day, even though the shark doesn't look
that real, it still works.

Speaker 7 (01:48):
Yeah, the whole opening the beach early, like the beaches
are safe right right, everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
It's a very surreal rewatch in these.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Dan.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
How about you? How you?

Speaker 7 (02:00):
I'm good?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I'm well.

Speaker 7 (02:02):
I had to take my take my girlfriend to the
airport this morning very early to help her brother get
out of or move out of college. But she's doing
a good thing. And yeah, so all good, Ready for
a great show.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
What's that line from when Harry met Sally? You know,
I never take a girl to the airport because then
to they expect things out of you, and then later
on you're what they then later on.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Then later on, I never do airport drops. I don't
I don't walk with airport.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Drops because then later on she says, you, how come
you never take me to the airport anymore? Just say
goodbye at home.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, I don't take too or pick up from airport
as a rule.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Okay, I did it. I did it quite a bit
when Casey and I first started data. Now I'm like,
you know what, I'll get you a car service.

Speaker 6 (02:52):
Yeah, it'll be so much.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
I'd rather get you a really nice car service. He'll
probably have mints.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Right, and.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
A clean car.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
She but, but Florence has a hang up about it.
She really finds it rude. So I'm gonna I have
a feeling it's going to be changing because she thinks
that it's bullshit.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I'm telling you, once you stop doing it, she's gonna
ask you, how come you never take me to the
airport anymore?

Speaker 2 (03:16):
I know. But see, Lax is so fucking far. I mean,
I'm sure a lot of listeners may live closer to
their airport than we do. It takes like over an
hour to get to LAX. It's a lot.

Speaker 7 (03:26):
It's a mission every time.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
And then you have to deal with the traffic of
that long circle around.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Hell, you know what you do, I'm gonna give everyone
a little Well, I shouldn't give my secret never mind. Sorry, No,
I was gonna give you. I was going to give.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
I was going.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
I was going to give people of LA a life hack,
But now I don't know if I should because they're
all going to steal it and use it.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Listen, just do it. You'll be a hero if you
do it.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
All right, you guys, don't tell anyone. I know that
there's a preposterous amount of people listening right now, But
don't tell anyone. This is just for you. Do not
tell your friends when you live in LA. If you
live in a life, you don't live in LA and
you come here, you're not allowed to do this ship.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
This is La.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
You go when you're dropping off. You go to arrivals,
not departures. There's never nearly as long a line at arrivals, brilliant,
and all you got to do is take the escalator
up or down whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
M M.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Now I regret telling everyone that.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Are you a genius?

Speaker 6 (04:26):
Sack?

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Hold on, hold on.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
I regret this already. It's a mistake. It's a mistake.
My life hack is ruined. Now.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
I feel like a lot of people already knew this life.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
No, they don't. You don't do it, did you know it?

Speaker 8 (04:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Absolutely? And when you get picked up you go upstairs to.

Speaker 9 (04:44):
Freaking depart yep, yep, yeah, man, I.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Never do it.

Speaker 7 (04:50):
Was such a problem that Uber won't let you do
it anymore. You can say, hey, will you drop me
off at arrivals, They'll say, no, we can't do that.
They're gonna give us a ticket if we do that.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Oh, I didn't know. It was like a ticketed things.
So don't get in trouble because of me.

Speaker 7 (05:01):
But only only ubers get ticketed. Only ubers get ticketed
if you're driving, if you were if you're doing a
service for a friend. That's a really good life hack.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Okay, there you go. Life hack everybody always when you
do it, I want you when you do it and
it goes smoothly, I want you to smile and think
of me.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Should we get into the show.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well, we have a very special guest today, Donald.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
I know, I'm really excited about it. That's why I
want to get into that.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
I can see that you're all geeked out. We never
thought Ken Jenkins would would come on the show, not
because he's difficult in any way. I just didn't know
if he'd know how to do the zoom and the
recording and all of that. But we're so lucky that
his son helped him navigate it all and and and
and as he here, Dan, is he ready to come

(05:43):
in the room, ready to go? I'm kind of nervous, Dole.
I haven't seen him in a long time.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
I'm so excited. Last time I saw him was when
we did that thing at UH at the Roosevelt Hotel.
Yeah where I also where doesn't he have no kids?
Happened also in the same in the same at the
same beIN not the same venue, but the same same building.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Building doesn't have like nine kids. Casey said that about
Donald in the bar, which was at the time was
called Teddy's and.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
I think it still is.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
And then we had sort of a Scrubs reunion event
for what was it for? I don't even remember.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I don't know, and uh and we were.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
All there, same building, same building.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
I love that bowling alley in the room.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
There's a cool little bowling alley. Do you ever visit
la just after you've arrived at the airport and driven
an hour? Are we gonna ask him about Ganja? Or
if you're not bring that up.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
I mean, I think I feel like we can ask
about it. If he doesn't want to talk about it,
we don't. He doesn't have to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I know, But I mean, I'm just one wanted to
just pregame with you if we're going to bring up
his love of Ganja.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
I'm just saying, man, he gave me a Kodak Remember
when Kodak film used to come in those little cases.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
The black canister thing.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, he gave me a canister full of seeds once
and it was like when you plant these now? And
I didn't plant them, and I look for this Kodak
thing at somewhere lost in.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
All the morow.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
But still, dude, they were like a lot of seeds
and he was like, you gotta plant them all? But
I was like, you gotta explain. Wait, Dan's eyes got
really big, Dan, will they still grow? A treat?

Speaker 10 (07:21):
You?

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Question I want answered is who was high more often
on set? Donald or Ken Jenkins?

Speaker 1 (07:28):
I bet you it's Ken Jenkins.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Okay, let's go to the videotape.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Okay, hold on, here we go ahead, five six, seven,
eight stories.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
About sure we made about a bunch of tops and nurses, and.

Speaker 9 (07:44):
I said, he's a story news. So YadA round here,
yeada here.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
There, Yes, hello handsome.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
Waving your hands.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Hello, there you are? You can you see us?

Speaker 6 (08:10):
Hey, Jackie, how you doing? Hi, Buddy, good to see you.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
It's good to see you.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
It's great to see old.

Speaker 6 (08:19):
Hello, sir. Hello, man.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
We're so glad you're doing this.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Ken.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
We really miss you and we really wanted to have
you on the show.

Speaker 6 (08:30):
Well, I'm glad you asked me. I'm glad to be here.
What's that Donald's got all over his face?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
This is hair?

Speaker 3 (08:37):
You know.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
I couldn't grow it hair.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
That looks great.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
It took me all pandemic to grow this.

Speaker 6 (08:49):
Now listen, does that help your ball game?

Speaker 3 (08:51):
No?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
My ball game is not existent now I'm not playing golf.
My golf game. It helps tremendously.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
I bet you're a wonderful golfer.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
I'm all right, I'm all right. I'm getting the hang
of it now, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (09:05):
You got are pretty good. You went from zero to hero.
I mean when I first saw you play, we were
together and neither one of us knew what the hell
we were doing. And then you got what's your handicap,
isn't that what you ask someone?

Speaker 6 (09:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
My handicaps now is seven point nine.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
That's realistic.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. I can at municipal courses, I
should say, when we go country club and play country
club golf, it jumps up, you know, quite a bit.
But for municipal golf courses so far, seven point nine.

Speaker 6 (09:35):
That's wonderful. Good for you.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Thank you? Now?

Speaker 11 (09:37):
Were you?

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Were you a golfer?

Speaker 6 (09:39):
I never played golf in my life until we did
that episode out there on the Hill and.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Ken, you looked good on that episode. Donald and I
were talking about how you look like you knew what
you were doing.

Speaker 6 (09:48):
You know, that's what they call it acting.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Because I told Donald, I said when I did it,
I could not do it. Edited me together. But we
were talking about Johnny c is a golfer, and he
of course looked great, but we were like, Ken looks
like he knew what he was doing.

Speaker 6 (10:08):
Total fraud, fraud.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
You sold the hell.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Out of it.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
How are you? How is how are you doing in
this crazy time when we're all trapped in our houses?
How are you holding up?

Speaker 6 (10:18):
Well? We're doing great, Catherine and I say, our lives
inside didn't change very much. We were doing a lot,
and we embarked on reading books to each other, books
that we had said we'd read, and then you'd ask
a question like, yeah, well what do you remember about it? Nothing?

(10:40):
So we started reading big books. Vanity Fair. Now seven
hundred pages of Vanity Fair.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
And you read it out loud to each other.

Speaker 6 (10:50):
Yes, yes, And now we're seven eighths of the way through,
Moby Dick and I think we're only four people in
the world have ever read it out loud to each other,
and we're about to finish it.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I think that's very romantic.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
That's a big book, Moby Dick.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
Yeah. I use it as a step letter when I'm
not really.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Ken You've always been. You always struck me as a romantic.

Speaker 6 (11:20):
Well I'm romantic, yeah, I mean I used to be.
Now it's just a lot more passive.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
You know, it's funny because in the in the episode,
I was trying to think as I was watching this episode.
You know, it feels like in some episodes Kelso is
so smitten and in love with Enid, his his wife,
and then in other episodes he's so dismisses of her.
You know, It goes back and forth. There's episodes where

(11:45):
he's just like singing old love songs he used to
sing to her, and then there's other episodes where he's
just like, Oh, she drives me crazy. I can't stand Enid.
I wonder if you thought what you thought about if Kelso,
what his feelings for Enid were.

Speaker 6 (11:58):
You know, it's funny, isn't that You watching the show
develop over all the years, and Bill would say every year, well,
we're going to give you a real life can don't
worry man. So you never knew what to play is
how do you feel about the wife? And I don't know.
I think it was very complex that we had developed.

(12:20):
It was very complex, but he had aside. The one
time I thought we really got into what Kelso felt
about love was when Nurse Roberts died and there's that
moment when I'm in the room with her and I
think you're looking through the glass and I just bend

(12:41):
over and give her this tiny little kiss, and you
knew there was something there that but all the wise cracking,
and then this episode we're doing today, the smart ass
stuff that beneath all that there was something really deep
and human underful bonding.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
I was going to ask you that, did you think
Kelso at one point? I mean, it's clear that he
obviously was a really great doctor. To get the chief
of medicine job, he had to not only be at
the hospital for a while, but he had to do
good work. You don't get that job just because of
being there for a long time. Do you think somewhere
along the line Kelso was broken and that's why he

(13:24):
became the ballbuster and and someone who was just all
about insurance and that was it. Do you think at
some point, you know Kelso was like, you know what,
everything that I've been doing? Because you're right, he does
have so many lovable moments throughout the series. Yeah, you

(13:46):
know the Tuscaloosa Heart episode where he's singing to his
his the love of his life and it turns out
to be Enid. You know the fact that he's definitely
willing to give out rewards and stuff like that. He
just doesn't want everybody to come and ask him over
and over again for things. So I'm asking, at some point,

(14:08):
do you think he was broken?

Speaker 6 (14:11):
I don't know about that, but I think what he
did learn, as all doctors seem to learn and especially
right now in all this COVID mess, what what the
what they have to see daily, and the front line
workers have to see daily, what they have to do
is put their feelings somewhere else. Uh and and and

(14:33):
go on with the job. And I think in Kelso's
position as an administrator, what happens with your feelings is
you crust them over. You just develop a rind on
the outside of it. Someone dies and you go on.
Another person dies and you go on, because you have

(14:54):
to keep going there.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Someone, someone in his someone in his position, you think,
has to just develop a rhyme, like you said, in
order to try and run that place, especially you know,
keep in mind that Sacred Heart was meant to be
a poorer city hospital that didn't have a lot of resources.
So he, you know, in his defense, he was trying
to keep the doors open to the place. You know.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's I think that's right. And
I'm sure you're right, Donald, in the sense that he
was probably idealistic in the same way Turk and JD
are idealistic. They're young, they have a mission, they think
well of themselves, they're looking at their future. Kelso was
young once yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Years ago, Hey, Ken, I wanted to say that you
Bill wrote you sort of one note in the beginning.
You know, if you look at the pilot, he's just
sort of like the bad guy. He literally has like
the blood, the blood, red eyes, and there's a devil.
And then and then as we're seeing now come and
and you played it so wonderfully, Ken, You're just you're
so you're so amazing, You're so funny, and you're so wonderful.

(15:58):
And but my point was that now in season two,
which we just started, you're getting to see where Bill
really starts to start to give him lots more layers.
I think, yeah, didn't you feel that way. I felt
like in season one there was so much to tackle,
and of course they're setting up the young, the young
wide eyed interns and their relationships and everything, and Kelsa

(16:18):
was just like the bad guy. And now I start
to see it. Of course, I know that this goes
throughout the nine years that you really start to see
it develop.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
I didn't remember that it happened this soon. My memory
of season one is being God, I'm over the top
on every scene I'm doing. I hated it. I hated
everything I was doing. I thought the timing was all right,
but I thought, it's just a thousand times too much.
Can't you pull back? No, I can't, I can't. I

(16:50):
don't know where else to go. And I looked at
this episode and I went, this is just the beginning
of season two and everybody is back in another deep,
wonderful groove. This is an incredibly good episode.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, yeah, it really is.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Ken.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
That's why that's one of the reasons we want to
have you on, because not only is it a really
really good one, but you have so much fun stuff
to play in this one, and uh and I want
We were excited to talk to you about all of it,
but before we dive into the episode itself. You know, Ken,
we've had every other one of the leads on the
podcast so far, and we always kind of start with

(17:28):
telling that people excuse me, We always ask everyone their
their audition story, how they how they came about to
be on Scrubs. Do you do you recall like how
that all, how that transpired, What your audition process was
like for the show.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
I don't know. It was you go in, you do auditions,
you know, and and this one I went in and
there were two or three guys I know who were
out there, who are all terrific actors. And you ever
think you're going to get apart, you know, feel well,
this is my part. Uh. But I went in and
read and Bill standing over in the back and he laughed,

(18:03):
and I thought, well, that's a generous thing for him
to do. He's helping out in the audition. That was
really nice to him. And I went away feeling that
was really nice. And then when I went in the
second time, he was there and he laughed again, only bigger,
and I thought, oh, I got a chance at this.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah. You start to get excited, right.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, you do.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
And then the the journey in my mind was, uh,
you you have a good audition, you get the part.
And then that first episode I looked at it the
pilot and I thought, man, he should fire me. This
is really awful, spinning around and round.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
But you didn't. That was that was written you. That
wasn't your acting. I thought, I thought you were great
in the pilot. Did you not? Did you not like
your performance in the pilot?

Speaker 6 (18:54):
I hated it, but somebody gave me a wonderful out.
They said, Ken, all that over the top step you
were obviously doing it in season one. That's just the
way j D was seeing you. Oh and then as
he saw you multi dimensional the way you see Cox

(19:15):
in this episode. That's a wonderful scene with Cox. I
want to be just like you, only more successful. That
scene is brilliant. What a good scene. And you guys
are so good. You kill that scene. It's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
And when you give me compliments, I have to tell you,
it's a special place in my heart. It means so
much to me because I respect you so much as
as an actor. And you may have thought you were
you were broad and perhaps the part called for that,
particularly early on, but I want you to know, and
I'm sure Donald agrees that we really just admired and
looked up to you for this entire experience.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Absolutely, let's take a break.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
We'll be right back after these fine words.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
You know, Ken, I'm looking at your I AMD I
guess you're Google. I googled you, and holy shit, dude,
you've been in so many movies. Man, Oh my godhood.

Speaker 6 (20:12):
Somebody told me if you want good residuals, get small
parts and big movies.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Oh that's a good technique.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
I hear that.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
I remember when we were doing Scrubs and I guess
it was its Courage under Fire, am I correct? Yeah,
And I remember seeing it and we had already started
shooting and I finally saw the movie and you're in
the movie with the scene with Denzel Washington and you
two are having dialogue and everything like that, And that
was when I first realized. I was like, oh, snap,

(20:42):
Ken had a life well before Scrubs. Kid was doing things.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
You thought Scrubs was Ken's first job.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
No, I didn't think that, but I, you know, I was.
I'm a you know, dumb, naive actor who's all about
himself and everything like that. And that's when the world really,
you know, the world started opening up when I started
doing Scrub and realizing that, wow, people, I'm not you know,
it's not just me. There's other people involved in this
whole situation. And Ken, Holy.

Speaker 6 (21:06):
Cow, Well we all feel like that, don't we. It's
natural you look at a script, and what does any
any actor do when he looks at the script. We
all know this joke, You're got to leaping through the script? Bullshit?
Bullshit my line, right?

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, as you have been blessed though, Ken, that to
have just an incredible amount of work that you've done
over the years.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
It's just luck. It's just a numbers game. You learn
the words, you don't trip over the furniture, and you're
going to get some of them. That's all.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Well, I think you're being modest.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
Now I'm not going to be modest. I think I'm
very good in this episode. I think it's very smart
of you're to have me for this episode.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
You are.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Let's get into it. Let's get into it. I wanted
to say Donald, first of all, Cat, I have a
funny memory of I don't know if you guys have
this thing in your life where someone tells you an
anecdote about a specific thing, and then every time you
think of that thing, you think of the person. Yeah,
and and one of mine is you Ken. When we
when we first all started making some real money, I

(22:13):
said to you, Ken, are you splurging on anything? Are you?
Are you treating yourself to to anything fun? And you
said something to the effect of not really, but I
have noticed that I am. I'm I'm changing my razor
blade a bit more frequently. And I thought that was

(22:37):
so humble and sweet and every and now when I'm
when I'm I'm looking at my razor blade, I go,
damn it. When was the last time I changed this?
I probably should. I always think of you.

Speaker 6 (22:49):
That's funny, Zach, that's funny.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Well, don't be, don't be. I want you to know
that I changed my way more frequently because of Ken Jenkins.
So Donald had braces on. Ken. I don't know if
you recall this, but he he decided to get braces
on the inside of his teeth for season two, And
we've been discussing in other episode's whether or not you
can hear him lisp or not. Because Bill eventually told

(23:17):
him to take the damn things off. This episode could
be called the lisper.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Oh my god, I can't even my mouth is even like,
I can't talk, no, not at all. Well, at this
point it was brought to my attention Bill's gonna tell
you to take the braces off, and I was like,
oh no, how am I gonna? I gotta, I gotta,
I gotta enunciate my words a little bit better.

Speaker 6 (23:37):
I got.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
You might have made it worse.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
You made it made it so much worse.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
What what I missed this whole thing?

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Well, Ken, you weren't looking out for it. I'm sure
if you weren't looking out for it, you perhaps wouldn't
notice it. But it's on our minds because we've been
talking about whether or not we can hear it, and
I haven't noticed that. Donald, To be honest, I were
I wonder if what you're saying is true that you said, oh,
I have to over nunce you. I'd have to compensate
or something, because to me it was like it sounded
like you had something in your mouth.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, and that was brace's.

Speaker 6 (24:07):
Wow, you mean in that scene where you asked me
for the thing you have braces yet?

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yes, Oh yeah, it's like client.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Anywhere I climb.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
Here's that subjectivity thing right now? I never noticed that.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Man, Oh wait, we forgotten. Sorry, we have to backtrack
a tiny bit to do our new segment where Donald
Ken Donald tries to sum up the whole episode in
thirty seconds because we've had some people, We've had some
people who are listening who aren't necessarily watching the show
along with the podcast, and they've asked us if if

(24:46):
we could quickly sum up the episode. So, Donald, are
you ready?

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Well, I just want to say one thing. There's a
lot going on in this episode.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Well, this is your second time doing this. Are you
already afraid of the assignment?

Speaker 1 (24:56):
No, let's go.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Okay, ready, we're gonna have thirty seconds on the clock
and go.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
We start off this episode with Kelso challenging all of
the medical interns to come up with an interesting patient
for the AMA conference. That sets the hospital a blaze.
It causes friction between John C. Mcginley's character and Zach's
character in the movie, Sarah and Judy, their characters don't
know if they really get along, and Turk wants a laser.

(25:21):
At the end of the episode, we find out that
doctor Kelso is a sweetheart and will actually grant you
a wish if you come to him secretly. That being said,
that's my second.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
You got most of it, You got most of.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
It, most of it.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Now.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Look, well here's the thing though, it's hard to get
into the most important part of the show, and that's
Kelso turning into the biggest sweetheart by choice. Yes, once
every year.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yes, but this year three seconds are over, so I
don't know is this the uh right?

Speaker 1 (26:01):
This is the prologue, the prologue, the.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Prog the epilogue, epilogue.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
That blogue epilogue.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
All right, well, yeah, I gave you credit for doing that.
Donald's to get to get that much of it in
in thirty seconds. This is a big episode. It is
not ABC story, it's it's overlapping arcs in different directions,
so much stuff going on.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
It was directed by Michael directed by Michael Spiller, one
of our favorites, Ken, Right, we always loved Michael Spiller.

Speaker 6 (26:29):
Loved Michael.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
And back to the old credits. If you recall in
season two, can you remember we had to reshoot the
beautiful credit sequence and then they wanted to add Neil
to the credits, so we reshot them, and then the
song was slower and the fans really didn't like it,
And so I think that that's it for the for
the old credit sequence. This I think as far as

(26:52):
this one, we're back to it.

Speaker 6 (26:55):
And I asked you questions about this episode. The h
is Neil is still in your head, Janitor, still just
in your head in this episode? Right? Nobody else reacts
with him.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
That's a good question, Ken, We've debated that. And because
Bill has Bill sort of a game with that we
thought was mostly season one, I think as far as
season two, he has begun to talk to other people,
but in this episode he only this particular one. He
only interacts with me.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Well, he so far throughout the season, he's only talked
to you. He hasn't you know, he hasn't talked to
anyone else. It's only been you so far.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
No, I think I think that's wrong. I think he
he spoke to Ken or someone in an earlier and.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Let's find out. Maybe this is a time to ask
Scrubs Wiki.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
I'm nervous about asking Scrubs wiki.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
So can we have this Wikipedia site? Well, it's not
a Wikipedia site. This guy, Trevor, Uh, he's the He
runs a Scrubs Wikipedia site pretty much where it's you ask,
you type in a question and all of these answers
come up for you know, specific said question.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Uh, that's not so true at all what you just said.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
It isn't you know?

Speaker 2 (28:11):
You don't type in a question. It it's like you
can look up okay, episode two of season two, and
it tells you different. You've probably never looked at the
damn thing, have you.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
I've never looked at you.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
We've been talking about it for so long, you never
even looked at it.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
Listen to me, fake it to you.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
It would be a lot.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
I love that in your mind. It's right. So all
you do, Ken is you type in a question and
it comes up with an answer that's not at all
what it is.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
That should be what it is. Wick, You needs to
get that game right. That's a better way.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Well, you need to make your you need to make
your own, your own web page. This is just Ken,
It's just like someone has curated this this page where
it breaks down every episode and it tells you the
guest stars, it tells you a summary, it tells you
some trivia, it tells you continuity errors, and yeah, you know,
it's become a good resource for us.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
I don't think I don't think it's a good resource
anymore if I can't call it and ask it questions
then and it answered my question.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Well, that's why we have asked. Trevor asks Trevor Wicki.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Okay, let me ask Trevor Wicki. Okay, Trevor, Trevor Wickie.
So far this season, in my recollection, the janitor has
talked only to JD. Is this true? And if it
is true, when does the janitor actually start to interact
in the story where his storylines are intertwined with the

(29:34):
rest of the cast.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
I have a feeling that it's Ken Jenkins. I have
a feeling and I want Trevor Wicki to answer this
that the Janitor says something to me and it makes
Ken slash Doctor Kelso laugh. But we'll see Trevor.

Speaker 10 (29:47):
How do you guys? In season two, Janitor still mostly
only interacts with JD. In the next episode, My big Mouth,
Janitor partners with Troy, but it's not until Mike Karma
where Janitor starts interacting with other main care All.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Right, let's get into the episode. So one two. I
thought it was hilarious that JD. You don't know what
JD is daydreaming about and you go to him because
the woman says, is he always daydreaming there? And it
turns out we reveal that he's daydreaming about having that
that beautiful uh afro that better Sun has and I'm

(30:21):
bopping my head to that. That made me laugh out loud.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
You would love to tell you my favorite line in
this episode, so we don't lose it. Yeah, he said
it seemed Donald and Judy a beautiful, sweet little scene.
And he looks up and says something to the heavens,
and Judy says, this is my favorite line. Baby. You know,
I don't like you talking to God while we're having
a discussion.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Well we all do it, though, but we all do it.
We all do it. Everybody does it. Everybody does it.
At some point when in a discussion that you're uncomfortable with,
there's that look to the Heaven's like why God, why
why are you doing this to right? It happens all

(31:17):
the time. I've caught my wife doing it to me,
like when she she even puts her fists, grabs her
fist and hits them together. Well, why, Yeah, it's true,
it's true.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
That is a great line. And we and we revealed
the Turk is still religious, because you know, we had
asked her early in season one and he's quite religious.
Not that not that you need to be religious to
talk to God, but it does seem like we had
asked earlier, like oh, does that do we stay with that?
Does does Turk keep a relationship with God? And here
he is talking to God?

Speaker 1 (31:51):
I want to I want to jump back to the
beginning of the episode. When the show very first starts,
it cuts to an exterior shot of our apartment. Yeah,
then when it cuts into the apartment, it kind of
felt a little it felt very sitcomy, you know what
I mean. And there aren't a lot of moments of
this show where I'm like, that's like a sitcom. You know,

(32:15):
we we earn our laughs because the laugh track there's
no laugh track to you know, to help you. We
earn our laughs, and that at that moment, I was like,
is this one of those moments where we're experimenting still
in season two, trying to figure out a way to
because we're coming on Thursday nights now And you know,
when Friends was on, that's always the first shot at

(32:37):
the central the central perk, or it's their apartment building.
And it seemed like that's what we were doing.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
And you think it was just the shot of the apartment,
because that's pretty rare for Scrubs to open on the
shot of the apartment. It usually opens on the shot
of the hospital. Is that what you were sensing?

Speaker 1 (32:50):
You think, maybe maybe that's what it is, or maybe
you know, someone one of the executives at NBC or
something was like, well, I don't know where they start from.
Let's just you know, I don't I don't. I don't
understand this shot at the apartment.

Speaker 6 (33:05):
I thought it was a joke that didn't quite work. Yeah,
which one, but the shot of the apartment of playoff friends,
this is not friends, boom, it's friends. It's not friends,
it's oh oh, that's very interesting because it opens up
and it's the four of us in the in the apartment.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
I didn't understand why you say I'll go get you
guys beers and I'm like, I'll come help you, Like,
why do you need help grabbing two beers?

Speaker 6 (33:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
It was just it was a setup to leave them
alone and show that they they have that they're awkward
when they're when they're alone together.

Speaker 6 (33:37):
Right.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
I have another question, what the heck is an AMA conference?
I didn't want to look it up. I wanted to
ask this.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Gender the American Medical Association.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Donald Okay got it for all of you who out
there who didn't know what an AMA conference was and
didn't bother to look it up, like me.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, I think some people might be perplexed that you
don't know what the AMA is after playing a fake
doctor for for nine years, But you know who.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Knows, don't be perplexed.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Don't be proplexed. There's a The AMA said that Scrubs
was the most medically accurate TV show about doctors. Did
you know that?

Speaker 1 (34:14):
I did know that. I didn't know that the AMA
said it. I just thought random doctors said it.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
No, AMA's that's one of our badges of honor.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
Okay, my doctor still says, well, what do you think, Ken?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Ken? Do you uh? Do you do you use your
Scrubs fame to uh to get special treatment from the
doctor because we've learned that Bill tells everyone, including his dentist,
that he was a creator of Scrubs.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
My doctors have got too old to understand things like that.
They just do what doctor Kelso did. Pay the nurse
pay on your way out.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
I like it to twenty six that not only have
I just enjoyed a fantasy with the afro, but i've
I've I asked the guy is that easy to manage?
Like Jay's really JD's really asking if he can if
you might want to try a perm Yes.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Also, Ken, I love al gio I don't know if
you loved al Giou.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
That's that's my second favorite joke. And the look on
the Loma's face when she goes what.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
And you say, what is your response? With which one
is the blind one? You mean rachels.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
And then doesn't Aloma say? Aloma says something like careful
of herne you're a saved woman.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yes, but I loved me some al Gio. I loved
Algio growing up. He's sang some of the greatest songs
ever made, like one of them.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
What's Algiro's most famous sign? I know the name, but
I can't think of what an Algiro song is that
I would know.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
We're in this love together, we got the kind that
last forever. Also, nobody does it like Sarah Lee.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Oh he did the jingle.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Do you remember when he had his own Sarah Lee commercial?
And nobody does it like Sarah Lee.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
I do remember. We're in it love to get the.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Laugh forever.

Speaker 10 (36:20):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Tommy Davidson, when I was a kid, had this great
stand up special where he talks about al Giou Algio
sang the theme song to Moonlighting some fly By.

Speaker 8 (36:31):
Now that's right, moon Light extrangers who just met on
the wie who just met on the way.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Anyway, Tommy Davis, a.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Little more, you gotta put a little more sound fly By.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Well, listen. Tommy Davison did this whole stand up thing
when I was a kid, right well, and he would
talk about how Algero could sing his off but would
make the craziest faces when he sang, so that to
get those sounds and to get that that you know,
that kind of twang to his music some fly by
Ni Shell Fly bday. He make just the faces, and

(37:17):
his niece would be like, what's wrong with his face?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
I loved aw, Jerome, So can you have to kiss
this woman's butt? Do you remember if she was really
there for your butt kissing?

Speaker 6 (37:32):
You know, you think I'd remember a thing like that,
but I don't.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
I don't remember either. She was good. I forgot her name.
I'll look it up because I'm on this.

Speaker 6 (37:43):
Marie Cheatham, Oh nice, nice?

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah you had you had you work with her before?

Speaker 6 (37:49):
Again, Yes, well, we didn't work together. But when I
was seventeen, I was an apprentice at the Alley Theater
in Houston, Texas, and Marie down there. I don't remember
whether she was an apprentice too, or whether she was
just around in the company because she's younger than me,

(38:09):
I think. But that's where when Robert Fox Schwarth was
down there as an apprentice Carl and Glenn.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Wow, so you guys knew each other when you were
a teenagers.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
But when I was seventeen. But I hadn't seen her until.
I was very surprised when there she was on the
on the show. I think she was very good.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, she was, she was. And the banter between all
of you guys, and the banter with Johnny was really
funny too.

Speaker 6 (38:37):
Oh yeah, the sas and you saying sas sas.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Stop saying sas, Stop saying sas sas.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Mike McDonald's back in this episode.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Yes, Mike McDonald with a broken penis.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Right, and Sarah's and Sarah's imaginary patient with the ass
on the front.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
That hilarious front butt.

Speaker 6 (39:04):
That scene with Sarah and Judy, that is just the
sweetest little scene when when I would kill for your
I would kill for your and Judy says, I would
kill for that wagon, your dragon, blank look on her face.
She says, that's your butt.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
What's funny is that Sara didn't really have much of
a wagon. I mean, I don't.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Know, I think that's I think that's the actual joke, though,
you know, it's it's very interesting because you know, women
are built different, obviously, and some have junk in the
trunk and some have not a lot of junk in
the trunk. And what I've learned is that, you know,
jeans fit different when you have more junk like jeans
that you see on television and designer jeans, at least
when I was growing up, or made for people, were

(39:48):
made for people with not a lot of booty, you
know what I mean. And so when I would go
and buy the jeans that I saw, you know, on television,
and I put them on, I would have I had
big quads, and I have a very round and.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
You have a big ass wagon.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
And so it would be hard to fit into these jeans.
And so a lot of these jeans that I had,
you know, i'd buy all of these, you know, the
brand that was popular at the time. I would buy
the jeans and try to fit into them, and they
just didn't look as good as they did on other people,
and so I would you know, one of one of
the ways around that is to let the jeans sag
off your butt, you know. But I just noticed something

(40:29):
that was very crazy about this episode is both Judy
and Sarah look amazing in this episode, they're like fine
as fine can be in this episode, you know what
I mean. Judy's hair is out of her face and
in your face, you know what I mean, you can
really see how beautiful she is. Sarah's hair is done
nice and not in her face, and you see how
beautiful she is.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
But she's got to the Princess Leiah buns on her head.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
And they're complaining in the episode about, you know, what
they wish they had and what they wish they didn't have,
and you know, and in my mind, I was like, wow,
we have two really beautiful women. But at the end
of the day, is that is that how we all are?
We all this way?

Speaker 2 (41:08):
And of course everybody, everybody has their own insecurities about
their physical appearance. And and I think part of the
point of the episode where was here are these two
women that that we all would imagine would be perfectly
fine with their their appearance, and then they what they
finally bond over is their insecurities and you know, they

(41:30):
don't have they can't find anything to talk about. I
thought it was a pretty powerful statement. Actually, what they're
saying is what they finally bond over is their own
insecurities about themselves. Yeah, and then the other one is like,
what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (41:41):
You have this?

Speaker 2 (41:42):
You have this, And she's like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (41:43):
You have this?

Speaker 2 (41:43):
I wish I had your hair, I wish I had
your you know. So I thought that that that was
really relatable. A lot of people could go, oh God,
even even these women who I perceive is to be
to be so beautiful, battle this.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
You know.

Speaker 6 (41:57):
And what the turn with the Johnny c with the
Doctor Cox after your scene and you're telling him you
want to be like him, only successful, And the last
scene is him showing us that he's been kind of
braving over his insecurities when he hands the telephone to
Marie's character and lets her make the call for him, Yeah,

(42:20):
to get him an advantage.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
And I really and I really like that because it
was it's one of the first times in the whole
show where I have had the bravery to do something
that affects Doctor Cox. Yeah, you know, I really that
took a lot of chutzba for JD to do what
he did and and go against him. But and of

(42:42):
course to say to your mentor, I want to be you,
but a more successful you. Yeah, I mean that was
that was a really courageous moment for the character. And
then I really love the fact that that that went
to affect to doctor Cox. It really it made him
take action in his own career, planted a seed in
his own mind.

Speaker 6 (43:02):
Right, it really planted your seed for the next six
years of your relationship with him.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yeah, all right, we have to go to a quick commercial, Ken,
because this was like a real show. We have a
real we have advertisers and everything, so we will be
right back after these words.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
And we're bad and we're bad. I think there are
only a few entrances in our show that are legendary. Ken,
you have two all in one episode too. Your entrance
where you're excited and happy about everything you know, are

(43:46):
you coming and you're dancing and you and you're excited.
That's one of the best entrances in Scrubs history. And
then your second entrance when you come in and you
beat the ship out of everybody. I forgot one of that,
one of the best.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
I had forgoten about that, Ken, Do you remember you
must have done those both the same day, I imagine
was there must have been a lot of rehearsal for
those sequences.

Speaker 6 (44:07):
I don't remember, there wasn't. There was very little rehearsal
for the Happy One because it started downstairs an the entrance, Yeah,
throwing off the cape, and that took a little while
to set up. Those scenes always did down there, and
then we were up in the hallway and that seemed
to be almost an improvisation. It just went that was

(44:28):
so fast. But on the second hallway scene that was Ernie,
and Ernie was there with those guys and saying give
me a key yah and made all those wax working
and those people doing those enormous reactions from anything I did,
that sold.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
That all the just for people that don't know. Ernie
was one of our stunt coordinators and all those people
that Ken's interacting with our stunt men and women, and
we haven't really given enough shout out to them yet
on this show. You know, we like we prided ourselves
on doing a lot of the physical stuff, but the
stunt people did a ton of the stunts on the show,

(45:10):
especially stuff that like like this moment with Ken, which
is it's like a dancer tene, right Ken, It's like
it's like a choreographed dancer teine.

Speaker 6 (45:18):
Yeah, I don't like that one. I like the second
one is.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
No, I mean when I when I when I meant
was that the fight sequence is its own bit of
a yeah of a dancer?

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (45:27):
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely? Now listen, is this the only time
there were two done in one episode? Asked Trevor the wiki.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Okay, you want to Ken?

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Good?

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Were Ken is calling upon Trevor Wicki?

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Ken?

Speaker 2 (45:44):
We are going to ask uh Trevor wiki? Has there
ever been a uh an entrance by one of the
characters that's done twice in one episode? You know, in
the same hallway we had our that prut and the
one with the pimpstrut for Donald and I, which we
did twice, but separated by many many episodes. Yes, has

(46:05):
there ever been a an entrance like this in a
in another episode where we did it twice?

Speaker 10 (46:10):
Over the top entrances are a fun running gag on Scrubs,
But Doctor Kelso is the only character to get two
grand entrances in one episode.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Well, not twice, but I do remember Dick van Dyke
had entrance very similar.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
To why are you helping? Why are you helping? Trevor
Wicki out?

Speaker 1 (46:25):
This isn't free because Trevor Wickie doesn't want to do
the job.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Zach, No, we don't know.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
We don't know.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
They said he doesn't want to do it. He said
he didn't want to do it.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
No, Joelle said there was a misunderstanding. He does want
to do it. We never sent him his gift basket.
You well, we remind me of him.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
I don't send gift backskets to people who are halfway in.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
And listen, I feel like I feel like the gift basket,
if well stocked, could put him over the edge. He
might be on the fence.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
So we gotta we gotta give him.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Listen, man, Yes, we have to bribe him. This is America.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
What are we going to bribe him with?

Speaker 2 (46:58):
This is America? Don't catch you stipin up.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
What are we going to bribe them with? What are
we going to bribe them with? Some salami?

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Joe?

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Why should we put in the gift basket for Trevor Wiki.
We can find out.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Just so we can answer these questions.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Ibout scrub swag. I mean if I was Trevor Wiki,
if I was Trevor Wiki, I would want scrubswag.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
I bet you we could go to Instagram and listen
I'm not trying to diss you, Trevor Scrubs Wiki. But
if I went to Instagram and asked all of our
followers any of these questions, say'd be eager and excited
to do it. This is a I'm not trying to
I'm not trying to help the situation. I'm trying to
tell you guys right now that he don't want to
do it.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Okay, well listen, Trevor Wiki. That's I apologize on behalf
of my co host.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
You don't want to do it.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Now, what if we were to get you know, there's
Scrubs Funko pops right. What if we were to each
sign our own funko pop and give them the Trevor
Wiki as his bribe.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Trevor Wiki will then take Seid Funko pops and sell
them on the internet.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Well, then he'll make what and then he'll make his
twenty bucks and it'll be.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
They're worth more than twenty bucks.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Listen, maybe because Ken asked Trevor Wicky, he'll be a
little bit more inclined to do it because everybody loves
Ken Jenkins.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
There we go.

Speaker 6 (48:12):
Okay, you're a get well, you're ready get the list
of all those hallways, Heather and Heather and whoever else
did one.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Yeah, that's a good question.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Well, listen, let's not overwhelmed the man we've heard sorlready
a second question.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
See, that's what I'm talking about. This wouldn't be overwhelming.
If he wanted to do it, it'd be the best
day of his life. Yo, zach Kin and Donald asked
me how many things happen in the hallway? Whoa give
made a website?

Speaker 2 (48:35):
He don't want to do it, all right, Calm down,
Calm down. This is his second This is his audition
to see if he wants to come back and do it.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
This is the callback. This is the callback.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
This is his callback. We'll see how he does. We've
now given him two questions. One is from the legendary
Ken Jenkins, and we will Joel, will you please facilitate
him getting signed Funko Pops? But only if he comes through? Okay,
and you know we can also sell it. We can say,
end him a gift card to get a free notification

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for his phone.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
You have a dollar twenty nine gets you to give.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Him a dollar twenty nine gives her Oh my god,
that's funny. Big all insulted. He'd be for like, hey, man,
we really want to thank you. Here's it gives certificate
for a dollar twenty nine to get our ring tone.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Here's the ring tones.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
All right, Should we get back to the episode, guys.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yes, eat Schmidt and die.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Yeah, that was funny.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Sarah says when she was a kid, she was really
close with her maid and then and then and then
she goes and then she goes, our maid was white.
And Judy goes what was her name? And there's a
really long pause and she goes, Kenzuela.

Speaker 6 (49:49):
Man.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
So the in the Janitor, I thought that was a
great moment. And I thought that the janitor because you know,
when watching these episodes, we don't really remember all of it,
and so I honestly thought that JD had a breakthrough
with the janitor. And I was wondering what JD was
gonna do for the janitor to be like that mop

(50:15):
that I got you forget about I mean that mop,
that the mop that you got me, forget about it.
You ruined everything. And he just decides at the end
of the show, I liked my ol map better.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah, but by the way he cries, he literally the janitor.
I had forgotten this. He cries over my gift. First
of all, he's in line. Everyone's in line to go
to Kelso's office to ask for things for their department,
and really expensive stuff. You're asking for an argon laser.
People are asking for overtime for nurses. They're all lined

(50:46):
up to ask for special things for the department. The
janitor's in line to ask for a mop.

Speaker 12 (50:50):
Yeah, and then he doesn't get a MOP.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
So I go out and buy him a MOP. I
take the time to give.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I mean, I goes out his way to make this
man feel special.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
I know. I wish I had seen the scene. That
would have been a funny scene watching me mop shopping
for the janitor. But I buy the mop, I gift
wrap it, I put a bow on it, and I
give it to him and he starts to cry. He's
so moved.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yeah, yeah, that was funny.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
And then at the end of the episode he's like,
I like my old mom, and I go, you cried.
He goes, no, that was you.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
That was you that.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
I liked your line. And when you said what was
wrong with the mompny and you said it was out
of mop gas?

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Was it out a mop Gas. Yeah, he's so funny, Neil.
I just look at him and I start giggling. I mean,
you know, when he comes on, it's gonna be a
funny moment. How about Rob Mashio. First of all, I
believe when you when you get a fake breast, uh,
I think it's like a special wing or doctor. Right,
it's I don't want to want why we're handling. Why

(52:02):
Judy and Rob Mashio are handling a breast augmentation?

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Yeah, I think you go to a plastic surgeon for that.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Right right. I thought that was like, I don't know much,
but I was like, why is Judy prepping a breast augmentation?
And why is Rob Macchio doing the surgery?

Speaker 6 (52:17):
Because the real j D was not in the writer's
room when.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
They exactly Then, because I was like, I believe we're
like a small city hospital and like mostly for like emergencies.
I don't think we're doing like cosmetic breast augmentation. But
but what about when he goes, let's get you into
a fresh pair of blouse bunnies. Blouse bunnies. And then

(52:43):
later he says to the husband, after she's had ther
breast done, he goes We're gonna need to get you
some bigger hands. You didn't laugh at that.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
I did laugh. I laugh at everything Rob does. Yeah,
so we have a moment where Elliott has a voiceover.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
What are you thinking about?

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Yeah, she has a voiceover when she's raw looking in
the mirror or stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Is that a voiceover?

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Is it too?

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Or she's talking to herself.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Her mouth isn't moving, so it's definitely voiceover.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
By the way, when she's playing with her breast and
she squeezing them together and then she like leans forward
and then something breaks. But I don't know what the
hell happens. It sounds like someone throws a brick through
her front window. There's like this loud glass shatter noise.
Do you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 (53:31):
No, I didn't pick that up.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
The idea is she's like she's like leaning forward and
she's like giving herself big cleavage, and then the idea
is like something breaks. But do you know what I'm
talking about?

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Joel?

Speaker 2 (53:44):
But the sound effect was so weird. It was like
it sounds like some she was being attacked from outside.

Speaker 6 (53:50):
That was the bottom of massage oil.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Something broke ken, something on her sink broke, but the
sound effect was just a bizarre choice. I thought, Joelle,
do we have a guest. Let's bring them in. Can
we take a question here from from one of our
lovely listener fans. They come into the room, You're about
to be about to meet them, and then they ask
us a question.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Banks, Bank smoking that loud? Bangs smoking that loud?

Speaker 8 (54:20):
Oh my gosh, Banks smoking that loud?

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Banks, are you exhaling marijuana as you ask us a question?

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Yes? I did have a couple of questions.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
No, but that's not.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
That sounds like that, sounds like that?

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Yes, Banks, you smoking that loud right now?

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Why are you call it loud?

Speaker 1 (54:41):
I never heard that, because it's it's loud and stinky. Baby.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
But Banks, all three of the cast members of Scrubs
that you have and enjoy the occasional use of cannabis.
So it seems like you're the appropriate guest for this
episode because we just watched you exhale a giant cloud
of smoke.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
That shit was like a rat. That's it was like
a Snoop DOGG video dog That's it was for real,
for real, man, you took a big ass hit off
of something.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Zach you have a shirt.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
This is burned, Yes, sir, burn it, burn it burning,
because I'm gonna burn one downn If you don't like
my fire, then don't come around, because I'm gonna burn
one down.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
All right? It was no doubt? Is that og was
that og? Cush was? What was that was? Was that you?

Speaker 3 (55:28):
No? I was told it was purple diesel?

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Okay, so mixture of sour diesels purple diesel?

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Ken, do you still partake every now and then?

Speaker 6 (55:40):
You know when you reach eighty you don't need to
because you it's sort of like it's a perpetual filled thing.
It just gets utterly filled up and there's no need
to bother your lungs about it because it's just always there.
Your full.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
So you smoked enough so that you're just good. You're
you're high, You're high enough for the rest of your life.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Well you did that?

Speaker 6 (56:04):
Or I was walking around Donald.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
My lips a purple, Now, Ken, they used to be paint.
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Donald is salivating Banks. All right, Banks, you have a
question for us. We have Ken Jenkins on the show today,
Donald Faison and Zach Brast.

Speaker 6 (56:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
I just watched the episode Ken was hilarious.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
A right.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
My wallet?

Speaker 6 (56:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (56:36):
So my question about the show is, if you guys
could recast, who would you cast as who?

Speaker 1 (56:44):
If I could recast myself, I'll just say.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
You could recast the whole show.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
I don't want to do that, but if I can
recast it. I loved working with everybody, and I think
everybody is really good on this show. And I can't
see anybody else playing the characters that we played. But
if I could recast myself, there are like three people
that I think could have done a great job if
timing was on their side.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Denzel Well, I mean, come on.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Man, I feel like I feel like if timing was
on his side, Jillie White would have made a great
Christopher Turk. By like, he would have crushed that role
as Christopher Turk if timing were if timing were right
on his side. I feel like Damon Wayne's junior, if
he were older back then, he would have crushed Christopher Turk.

(57:34):
He would have done such a great job as Christopher Turk.
And Uh, I think those two people and when it
comes to playing that character, if I could recast Chris Turk,
and it couldn't be me. I would take those two people.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Okay, I was just thinking as Donald was answering because
I zoned out. His answer was so boring, and I think.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
That Sosia face.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
I was thinking Ben Platt would be a good JD. Uh.
He's a funny, young, nerdy character actor, and he's very
talented and he can sing his ass off, not that
JD was required to sing too much. How about you, Ken?
Can you think of another actor who could have I
don't know, no one could replace the legendary Ken Jenkins, but.

Speaker 6 (58:21):
I wouldn't want to put anybody else through nine years
of that?

Speaker 2 (58:32):
All right, what about another one? Banksy?

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Banksy is fine, Banko is cool.

Speaker 12 (58:38):
Tookos Oh, this is non scrub related, Donald, I want
to know, like, because you know, I'm from New York too,
so like I've kind of followed your career, like.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
You know, you're always always a grooms man, never a
groom really like kind of in the back, like but
you know.

Speaker 11 (58:54):
Clueless, Uh, sugar Hill and all that things like that,
who in Hollywood and you and you? Who in Hollywood
did you did you serve up the most on the court?

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Like?

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Who in Hollywood did I serve up the most on
the court. Uh, a lot of people. There are a
lot of people that have gotten they ass busted by me,
and then there are a lot of people that are
busted my ass, Like you know.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
The most famous of the two. I wanted that question.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Does he mean like in a metaphor in the acting
world or on the basketball court?

Speaker 1 (59:31):
On the basketball court?

Speaker 2 (59:33):
No, I don't know if that's what he means. Thanks,
What do you mean?

Speaker 3 (59:35):
I mean on the basketball court?

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Okay, shutting out, thank you, and you stay quiet, do
you understand?

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Yes, sir, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
So Leonardo DiCaprio is the most famous person that I've
ever served on the basketball court. Him an Toby Maguire
on the same team gave them the business. And this
was back, dude, This was back when I couldn't play
basketball that well. Right, This was me coming to LA
and being put in the league and then seeing Leo
and Toby and being like, oh, they're gonna get it today,
you know what I mean? And I don't even score

(01:00:07):
a lot of points, but we beat the crap out
of they had like they had a they had a
squad in this entertainment league that we played in, and
we beat them. In the playoffs, we got them in
the first round, and when we played them during the season,
we beat them. Anyway, we have a question. I told
you to shut up.

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
Sorry, I'm just I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Sorry, it's so funny, but I also don't want to
talk now. I told you to shut up. Did Leo
invite you back to his game? Because I always hear
about these celebrity games where when someone comes in and
they kick ass like you probably did that they and
they'll get invited back that you got to watch how
good you are?

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Right? So that happened to me. That happened to me. Well,
so one time I played ball with Toby and a
bunch of his buddies at somebody's house. I don't know
who it was, but Harley Pasterneck invited me. Harley Passon
next to celebrity trainer. Celebrity trainer, right, and we told you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Had said bananas or sugar sticks, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Right, And and I've run into him. You know, He's
invited me to a bunch of games to play with
other celebrities because he knew I loved basketball. So I
played with Kanye West, I played with Common, I played
with all of these people, right, And he invited me
one time to play basketball with Toby, and I remember
Toby Maguire was like, I don't want to be on

(01:01:42):
his team because I'm not going to have fun playing
on his team. And I took offense to it. And
I remember when I got there and I listen, you
talk about smoking a lot aloud. I had smoked so
much read when I got there before I got there, right,
and so I'm stoned out of my mind. And he's
like and he's like, I don't want to play with
him because I'm not gonna have fun. And I was like, oh, okay, fine,

(01:02:05):
you got it. And I proceeded to bust their ass
on their court and I never got invited back.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Yeah, you got to be not too good, right. That's
the trick to play with fancy celebrities, right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
You have to make it feel like they can they
can compete on your level. If they can't compete on
your level, you got to make you have to bring
them up to your level. You gotta be like the
Lebron James of the thing where you score buckets, but
you make them feel like they're doing their thing. Another time,
hold up, I was in Miami and Leo and Toby

(01:02:40):
invited me to hang out with them, and this was
one of the biggest moments of my life. You know
what I mean as a young actor. To me, Leonardo
DiCaprio is the best actor in the world. I love
everybody out there. I think everybody does a great job.
But for me, Leo is my age, and I think
he's the best at my like, I don't think anybody
better than him. And since you know, when it comes

(01:03:03):
to my peers, people that are my age, right. And
so we're in Miami and we go down to this
little basketball court and it's me, Leo and Toby on
the same team, and we play against you know, some
Floridians on uh it's three on three game and we win,

(01:03:24):
and I, you know, I remember, and I remember thinking,
you know, I've arrived. I played ball with Leo, I
played ball with Toby. We were on the same team.
It happened. I'm gonna be in the next Spider Man.
I could feel it. I was wrong because right the
next time I played ball with Toby, he said, I
don't think I'd have fun playing on this team. In

(01:03:46):
my mind, I was like, well, we kicked ass in Miami, baby,
We had a thing. We did that thing in Miami,
all right. So those are the people who when it
comes to basketball, those are the two people that I've
given the business, Leonardo DiCaprio and Miami Leonorda to On,
Tomy maguire. When it comes to getting my ass busted,
there are quite a few entertainers out there who can

(01:04:06):
really ball. Michael B. Jordan is nice, Jesse Williams nice.

Speaker 11 (01:04:11):
These dudes up. I mean, I'm a heavy NBA celebrity
game historian, and someone like Michael B.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
Jordan, I think I I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Telling you right now. I'm telling you right now. It's
a big difference when you're under those lights, though. Man,
it's a big, big, big difference. And the ball isn't
the real ball. It's not. It's not like anything you've
ever played with.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
And why isn't the ball a real ball in the
celebrity games.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Because it has to look it's shiny, and it has
you know, it has a bunch of it doesn't feel
the same way, right, And so.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
I love that grit, that normal grit we usually have
when we play.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Michael B. Jordan, Jesse Williams, Brian mcnight, James, Yeah, James Leguore.
I'm trying to I'm leaving some people out there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Supposed to be really good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
There's so much younger than me that I've never had
the like when.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
You were playing, when you were playing actively in these
celebrity leagues, who was the best? Who is? Who would
you pick number one on your team of people?

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
We know it's either Brian McKnight or James Lazure. Those
two are like, Brian mknight understands basketball right. James Lazure
he doesn't have to he doesn't have to score, you know,
forty points to win. He would average a triple double
every game we played, and you'd look at it and

(01:05:31):
be like, damn, you know, he didn't take a lot
of shots, but he had ten points. And I don't
think he passed the ball to me that much. But look, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I just had to look at who was right that
that dude is that dude can ball? Mike Yeah. But
but the two that are the two, the three that

(01:05:52):
are really good in my opinion are James Lezure, Brian mckknight,
and Michael B. Jordan.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Okay, well are you having everyone? Uh Donald the celebrity
basketball player, How's How's the Doulay Hill.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Deulay is not a real He's not a He's not
that big of That's another person who could have played
Turk as Delay Hill if circumstances were correct. But uh,
Delay is not White. Jalil is dope. Jalil cabal too.
That's another one. That's another one. But I gave and
Jalil knows it. I gave him the business one summer league.
We had a we had a Nike Summer league, and

(01:06:30):
I gave him the business and he knows it, and
to this day, every time, if I ever I mean,
I don't play basketball anymore. But from that point on,
if I did play Jialil white, he was extra aggressive
when it came to guarding me, and if I was
guarding him to showing me, Yo, that was a fluke, dude,
you ain't never gonna do it again. But I gave
him the business one game, so much so that you know,

(01:06:52):
when people are staring at you and you're acting like
you can't see them staring at you. I felt the
I felt the burn in my peripheral while he's sitting
on the bench after I filed his ass out, burning
into my free.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Do they still do this celebrity basketball thing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
I don't know. I don't play basketball no more.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
No I'm saying they do, okay right now, I mean
in non COVID, in non COVID times, I wonder if
it was still a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
I don't play basketball like that anymore. But it's a
big difference when it gets on television and the announcers
and the TV timeouts and all of that stuff. It's
not the same game, you know what I mean, your rhythms.
You have to be hot going in and just stay
hot because your rhythms are off and you can't play
your way into games like that my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
All right, Well, for anyone who tuned out for the
last ten minutes, this is.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Ken.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Just Ken took a brief nap. Ken, Ken took a
brief nap. But we're back banks. Thank you man. Those
were good questions. This great and we appreciate you. And
you inspired uh Donald's to go have some purple diesel.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Well, it's not gonna be purple diesel. It might be that. Listen, man,
it might be that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Lookout, it might be done out.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
It's my birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
You want to count out? Go ahead?

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Happy first of all, happy birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Thank you, happy birthday. How old are you?

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Thirty two?

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Are you young?

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
And all right?

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
The show's not quite over yet, but we'll tell you
what we're gonna do. Well, I guess we kind of
did it right. We don't have anything else to talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
I mean, we're ken. Is there anything else you wanted
to say?

Speaker 6 (01:08:28):
Yeah, you have to say how good Johnny Castle is?

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Absolutely Ken, you know what, Absolutely, You're absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
You're right, Ken. Johnny Castle doesn't get enough appreciation. He
plays Doug, the nervous guy, and he was always very,
very funny and always had his little red fanny pack on.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
And it's always the butt of Kelso and Cox's jokes.
They and some of the best one liners, like you
know when he's like, my family lives in uh you'll
see them. Yeah, my family lives in Brina. You'll see
them around the holiday.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Christmas wort right.

Speaker 6 (01:09:10):
Right right, right, right right, And he's he snaps off
those ends when when Johnny is always chasing him off,
go go, go go, he snaps those ends off so
crisply too.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Yeah, yeah, so Ken, Uh, I just want to say
thank you for doing this. Uh, Donald and I talk
about a lot. How much. We we love you and
miss you and uh, and we were both really really
excited that you wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
This, you know, and also you are the m v
P of our show. You were talking earlier about how
you felt you were so broad and everything like that
and you needed to pull it back. But I personally
watching you, feel like you were so natural and you
were able to bring a natural element to slapstick and

(01:09:56):
broad comedy. And as much as you're like, I feel
like I was all. I was all with the top.
I personally, uh, I it's it's it. I I disagree
with you, honestly. I think you are right in the
pocket and you crush it every time. And I think
that's why it started off as Kelso being the bad guy,

(01:10:18):
and as we moved forward, Kelso all of a sudden
was telling all of the great jokes and had all
of the great one liners. And so that's just my
that's just time.

Speaker 6 (01:10:28):
I gotta tell you, the only reason that I agreed
to come on and do this with you guys was
the hopes that you would say some wonderful bullshit like.

Speaker 13 (01:10:37):
That, Okay, nobody talk, we can't nobody talk.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
We can't beat that. We can't beat that. That's how
you end the show. Thank you, Ken Banks.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Count us out.

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