206: My Big Brother With Tom Cavanagh

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Speaker 8 (02:05):
Hi, guys, what you're trying to get into? What day
is soon? What you're trying to do?

Speaker 4 (02:11):
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Speaker 8 (02:13):
That's a fire song.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
By the way, it is a sire song.

Speaker 8 (02:16):
I got to tell you. Since I told our listeners
about it and you remind you about it, I've been
singing it NonStop. It's like, you know how you usually
get like a summer hooky song in your head. My
summer hooky song in my head is what you're trying
to get in.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
I'm that's amazing because twenty years ago your summer song
was turn me inside out. So I can't speak because
you're everywhere to me.

Speaker 8 (02:42):
When I went, I got out. Michelle Branch knows how
many shout outs she gets on this podcast.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, she should know, because she's not alone.

Speaker 8 (02:51):
Oh oh, I I think Michelle Branch must be aware
that how many times over the years I've spoken about her.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Do you think Michelle Branch gives two ships about us?

Speaker 8 (03:03):
Do you think yes. I think Michelle Branch likes any
people that are talking about a song she wrote twenty
years ago.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
I hear that, man, I learn what happened to her.
She joined a so she she I think she got married,
had kids, joined a band.

Speaker 8 (03:16):
Doesn't mean she gave up her musical she did.

Speaker 11 (03:19):
She was.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
She's in a band right now. It's her and another
young lady and they do a they do music together.

Speaker 8 (03:23):
But fuck would they do as long as they cover.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Every to me, they do very they do, uh that
very good. Casey put me onto them because you know
how Casey works in music sometimes, and she put me
onto them and was like, yo, she's dope. She joined
a band.

Speaker 8 (03:39):
I rocked. I rock out to her in my trouble.
You know, I've be thinking about putting my my my
sort of girl pop workout list on the on on
on the web, so people can do that ship. Yeah,
do that ship, yeah, because iTunes needs that. Yeah, people listen.
I can never find a workout playlist that suits my needs.

Speaker 6 (03:57):
Right.

Speaker 8 (03:57):
A lot of people clearly agree with you on on
rap and hip hop because if you go on like
the standard playlist on iTunes or wherever, they're all like
ninety five percent that and and like Hits one is
all like stuff. I don't listen to like Wu Tang.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Do you don't listen to the Wu Tang.

Speaker 8 (04:16):
I don't listen to. No, I don't listen to Wu Tang.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Do you know who? But you know who method man is?

Speaker 8 (04:20):
Yeah? Of course he was in Garden State.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
That's right, that's right. But you know he's in it.
You do know that he is in a band with
about twelve people, four other Wu Tang members.

Speaker 8 (04:31):
There's Wu, there's Tang, there's clan.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
I'm gonna say some names and you're gonna be like, oh, yeah,
I've heard of them, of course, A dirty bastard.

Speaker 8 (04:44):
Of course I've heard of him. He was, he was,
he died right, Yes, he did. The Rizza, Yeah, I've heard.
I can picture him, dude, the riz We hung out
with him one night and you spell it Rza. I
know that.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yeah, we hung out at chateau. He came through and
kicked it with us that night. We would hang You're
not supposed to talk about chateau on this actually, so
let me take that back. Oh, you know what happens
at the chateau is supposed to stay at the chateau
right now.

Speaker 8 (05:06):
You can't be dropping chateau things. I hung out with
Drake at the chateau.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Once you see, look at you spilling the beans.

Speaker 8 (05:11):
Okay, get ahead. Who else? Rizza odv method Man, method Man,
ghost face Killer, Yeah, I've heard of him. I can't
picture his face. I can't be you. God, you God,
I don't know you God. The jizzer, I don't know
the jizza.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
That's the genius, uh inspector deck.

Speaker 8 (05:30):
There you go. Wow, there's a big band. A lot
of people in this band.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Oh yeah, it's a huge band.

Speaker 8 (05:35):
You really like their music a lot?

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Are you kidding me? I smoke on the mic, like
smoking Joe Frazier, the hell Raiser, raising hell with the flavor,
terrorizing jams, like troops in Pakistan, swinging through your town,
like your neighborhood spy. The man so armed, TikTok keep ticking.
Come on now, you don't know nothing about the wu
tang okay yo e t h o d man e

(05:58):
t h o d man. Hey, you get off my cloud.
You don't know me, and you don't know my style.
You don't notice.

Speaker 6 (06:07):
No.

Speaker 8 (06:07):
I have a question though, when you when you have
a big like rap supergroup like that. Are there?

Speaker 4 (06:11):
They all dirty? Baby? I got your money, don't you bury?

Speaker 8 (06:17):
I said, hey, I know that song. Yeah, that's before
you go into another song. I have a question. Do
they all take turns like I'm gonna rap now? All right,
now you're up you rap now that kind of thing
like like like they take turns.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Well, some of them have like a connection. So remember
run DMC growing.

Speaker 8 (06:34):
Up, Yes, right, yes, yes, yes, the Adidas my.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Adidas, right, those two had a connection. So when they rapped,
they could when they rhyme, they could bounce off of
each other. Some people it's like you and I, how
we have a good uh how we have good chemistry?
Same thing with rappers, right, and you look for when
you're a rapper, you look for that person that you
have chemistry. Drake and Future have really good chemistry together.
So they do a lot of records together. And so

(07:00):
it's the same thing you know, uh in in the
Wu Tang because it was so big, the WU is
so big, there are little tiny groups with inside the
sub groups within the WU. Right, So ghost Face and
uh ghost Face and Ray Kwana Chef. That's the one
I forgot to mention I should have put Ray Kuana.
He got the best. He got probably the best bill

(07:21):
for Cuban Linx is probably the best Wu Tang record
in my opinion. It's got so many good songs on it. Anyway,
ghost Face and Ray Kwan do very well together and
on record they bounce off of each other very well.

Speaker 8 (07:36):
So they're now who's your favorite if you had to
pick one member of the Wu Tang clan, that's like
your favorite rapper in the group.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
The Jizz, the Genius, I like him a lot. I
liked o dB a lot. I like I like Meth
Method man, I like I like all of you. To
be honest, are they still?

Speaker 8 (07:57):
Are they still? Like ghost Face got somebod these still
When when the world's normal, do they still tour?

Speaker 4 (08:03):
I hope. So it's a lot of egos, man, it's
a lot of them, man, how do you do that?
How do you that's like? Look, the Jackson five couldn't
stay together and they were brothers. How do you do me?

Speaker 8 (08:13):
When we go on when we go on the road
eventually touring this show, I feel like your ego is
gonna soar like an eagle out of control.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
It depends on if they you're gonna want, You're.

Speaker 8 (08:23):
Gonna have demands you're gonna have and your rider. There's
gonna be all sorts of rules, no eye contact.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
It all depends on how loud they applaud for me.
If they applaud for you louder, then they applaud for me.
I feel like I'll fall into a little you know,
back into a way.

Speaker 8 (08:39):
We're gonna d go and.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Applaud for me more than they applaud for you. You
damn right, man, I want my bus to be bigger.

Speaker 8 (08:46):
Yeah, we're gonna measure up. We're gonna have the same bus.
Listen when Dan, we're gonna bring Dan and Joel, and
Dan's gonna bring his thunderous applause button, so we'll get
to augment whatever the crowd does. We'll be able to
augment the audience. You ever, we're looking at an award
show and you hear the applause on an award show,
and then you look around and no one's clapping, like
like like no one in an award show is paying attention,

(09:08):
so that they they'd be like a third of them clapping,
so they just augment all this thunderous applause. Well that's
gonna be what Dan is doing for us when we're
on tour with this show.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
So before we before we start the show, Dan will
be like, all right, so I need some thunderous applause
from you guys. Okay, everybody, and now I need some laughter,
need some laughter.

Speaker 8 (09:26):
No, no, no, bro, He's just gonna bring it. It'll
be it'll be a it'll be a button.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Well, hell yeah, he's gonna be. He's gonna bring it.
Dan always brings it.

Speaker 8 (09:35):
Yeah, Dan's gonna bring it, dude, He's.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Gonna bring it. Of course he brings it. We're gonna
we're gonna go to the applause.

Speaker 8 (09:43):
I think we're probably gonna play arenas and and we're
gonna and we're gonna need to do sound checks at
these arenas.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
If we play arenas, imagine that. Imagine we go to London. Yeah,
and what's the big arena to the O two two
and we play the O two That would be the
best day of my life. I'm gonna tell you something
right now, London.

Speaker 8 (10:04):
Make it happen.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Listen, make it happen. Let's put it out there like
I'm secret that shit.

Speaker 12 (10:08):
Listen.

Speaker 8 (10:08):
I'm sure, I'm sure we're gonna be playing like four
hundred seat theaters. But in reality, let's secret it that
we sell out the O two arena for fake doctor's
real friends.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
That would be the best. That would be the best
night of my life.

Speaker 8 (10:21):
Listen, you gotta put ship out there. You gotta put
outrage of ship out there and make it come true.
Remember I told you about the whiteboard. You get a
whiteboard and you write the most outrageous ship you want
to have happened in your life, and you look at
it every single day.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Who'd you say, did that?

Speaker 8 (10:39):
Well? I have a lot of people in my life
and told me this. But the great the anecdote I
referenced on the show was I'm friends with John, a
Legends manager, and they her name is Tay and they
went to a high school together. And she said when
he first started, they got a big whiteboard and they
were putting them out. They were like, let's be outraged,
like I don't know, cover of Time magazine, like this

(10:59):
may Grammys. They were like sitting there laughing about the
outrageous shit they were putting on this whiteboard. And she
turned to me and she said, every single thing on
that whiteboard happened and she said. Now I do whiteboards
with all my clients, and like, you know, so anyway,
it's about manifesting, it's about making shit happen. I have
a whiteboard in my bedroom and I'll some things on

(11:20):
there are like goals I have, and some things on
there are like outrageous. I mean, obviously we're not gonna
sell it outs arena, but I'm saying you can.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
You can no put that shit on the board. It
could happen. It happened for John Legend. Man, the dude's
got egot. He got the egot. Let's make it happen.

Speaker 13 (11:34):
Dude.

Speaker 8 (11:34):
Well, maybe we'd have to bring John Legend if it was,
like if we opened for John Legend, let's do it.
Let's call on Legend. Yeah, man, listen, the guy's got
an egot. Okay, so put your egot on your board.
I believe in it because you look at the board
every day, and even in your subconscious brain, your mind
is going, I'm gonna find a way to work on
that today. I'm gonna make that call I'm afraid to make.

(11:57):
I'm gonna. You know, for some people, it's fit. They're like,
you know what, I just looked at that whiteboard, and
I gotta get on the treadmill today, I promise myself.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
That's what's saying.

Speaker 8 (12:05):
No, I like you.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
I'm I'm gonna put the whiteboard in my in my bedroom,
get the white share it with Casey. I'm gonna be
like baby, let's put the most outrageous yes on this board.

Speaker 8 (12:14):
I'm telling you, listeners, this is the you know, Brene
Brown very popular. This is our Brene Brown moment. This
is our self help motivational moment on Fake Doctor's Real Friends.
You can make anything happen.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
Okay, dude, I love this. I love this. I love you.
I love that we did this together, the four of
us and our and our listeners. Yeah, let's make that
shit happen. Let's I have a sweatshirt on.

Speaker 8 (12:38):
Today because my wife is those Bieber things.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
No, it's Mickey Mouse, you know.

Speaker 8 (12:43):
My my my forty something crisis is being managed by
just getting lots of tattoos.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Nice.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
Good for you, man.

Speaker 8 (12:51):
I was always afraid to get tattoos because my father
hated them. And when my sister died, I got her
name in Hebrew on my on my arm, and my
father kind of like was okay with that because it
was you know, meaningful, and it was Hebrew. And then
when he passed away, like I realized that so much.
Even though I was in my forties, I still was
so nervous about what my father would think. And then

(13:12):
I was like, all right, it's time to fucking tattoo
the ship out of myself right on.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
So you're gonna have a sleep soon.

Speaker 8 (13:17):
Well, I don't know about a sleep, But where do
you want your face? When I get it? I was
thinking my left ariola.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
I was thinking your face for sure?

Speaker 8 (13:23):
What if I did you on my pictoralus major and
now listen and then your mouth was open, but then
in your mouth was my left ariola.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
That's weird. That's weird. I prefer you just got my
face on your face, like you took my face and
tattooed it on your faces. About no, I didn't say,
on his whole face, like my face on his cheeks.

Speaker 14 (13:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (13:47):
I don't know. I don't jellify his black face. If
I jump.

Speaker 15 (13:53):
Joe, can you.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Imagine all you can pick up his him pain my
face on his face. It wouldn't be face off text,
but like a tattoo for it man, right.

Speaker 8 (14:06):
No, it would be an outline, Joelle, Joelle, it would
be an outline. Joel's like, now managing all of our
black face issues. She's like, guys, sounding like that might
be black face. Hey, guys, I got to chime in here.
That sounds like it might be black face, Joelle. Would
be an outline. It wouldn't be like colored in, it
would be it would be an outline of Donald's face.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Well, I would just want it on your cheek or
on your forehead, you know.

Speaker 8 (14:28):
Any Way, the guy tattoos me told me that we
were talking about all these young kids that are getting
tattoos on their face and how ridiculous it is. And
he said that he's really surprised that any of these
artists are doing it because there's sort of this unwritten
code amongst tattoo artists that you would never put a
tattoo on a on a young person's face, right and
and because for obvious reasons, and he said, and now

(14:52):
that there's this fad of it happening, he thinks that
they're all just doing it for Instagram fame, because these
kids are often you know, famous people, and they're doing
it saying fuck it, I'm gonna get my fifteen minutes
of fame. But you know, obviously, get these young people
that are all tattooing the share of their faces.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Dude, you might not be able to get the money later,
you know what I mean, Get the money now if
you can. That's that's the that's the yolo man. You
only live once.

Speaker 8 (15:16):
You know, Oh, you would tattoo a child's face, Donald.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
I'm not. First of all, I am not a tattoo artist,
so I'll never have to put myself in this situation.

Speaker 8 (15:25):
You just told these guys and tattoo someone's face.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
I'm saying, the reasoning behind it is this, dude, do
you You don't listen. If scrubs didn't happen, you don't
know what you would have done to make them to
make ends meet. If you're acting, if you're acting and
directing stuff, you know what I mean? You could have
gone into a business that you might not be proud of.
You might be, but might Instagram model right now and

(15:50):
a dong talking about followers.

Speaker 8 (15:53):
I love how these girls Instagram influenced people. They took
like a little time off for COVID and the Black
Lives Matter movement, and now they're all back fucking tushes
in the air, selling tea on some yacht and a visa.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Oh my god, yolo. Nobody says yolo anymore, whether they.

Speaker 8 (16:16):
Say these days, I don't know TikTok dancing.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
I've been inside so long. I have no idea what
the kids are saying while they're all.

Speaker 8 (16:23):
On some old guy's yacht doing a TikTok dance. But
you know what, they must have put that shit on
the whiteboard.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Imagine that was on the whiteboard. Imagine that's the white board.
You want to be.

Speaker 8 (16:37):
That's their fucking whiteboard. I want to be on a yacht,
having somebody pay for it, making that Instagram money.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
That's what's up. That's what right Hey there it is.
Go for yours, listen. That's what I say to everybody
and anybody out there who has dreams and they want fame.
As long as you don't disrespect nobody or hurt nobody,
go for yours. Man.

Speaker 8 (16:59):
Yeah, but if you can try and go for something
that contributes to society in some meaningful way.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Sure you can find yourself later on. You got everybody
had something to say.

Speaker 8 (17:08):
I miss you so much at her I miss you
so much more, dude, should we get into the show.
Tom Kavanaugh's here. I'm so excited about County seeing.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Six Stories. I'm that show we made about a bunch
of dogs and nurses. Here's the stories new so gather here,
yead here.

Speaker 8 (17:35):
But what a show, What a show we have today, Donald,
it's a really good episode and the hilarious Tom kavanaughs here.
We have so much to say. Let's just get in. Dan,
allow him into the room. Here he comes. I haven't
seen him in years. I haven't seen him in years.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Tom call.

Speaker 8 (17:58):
Some clause.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Dan thunders, of course, look at how handsome you.

Speaker 8 (18:02):
It's like, look at you and look at them, man like,
look at the mirror.

Speaker 16 (18:07):
It's that's that's pandemic.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
You've got the pandemic face going on. Now.

Speaker 8 (18:11):
You did get more handsome with age, Tom Cavanaugh, and
I can say that because people think we look alike.

Speaker 16 (18:17):
This is true.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
I can say, likewise, my friend, look at you guys,
My goodness, gracious, I'm so good, so good to see
your faces, holy man, see yours.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Are you living in Canada or do you live in
the US?

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Still well, I live in New York, but I film
a show in Canada, And uh, when the pandemic hit.
I stuck it up North. Hi, Joel, I'm Tom. By
the way, I'm nice to meet you in person. I
listened to you guys, so I've sort of been.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Familiar with that.

Speaker 13 (18:45):
Do you know what?

Speaker 4 (18:45):
I watch your show? Right, you know, I watch your show.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
I don't know that, but I know you have like
twenty seven children, so I figure maybe in that demo
some well but no, not watching it for his kids.

Speaker 8 (18:55):
He's watching it for him.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
So for me, I love the flash, Dude, are you
kidding me? That's got a dynamite cast?

Speaker 8 (19:04):
Donald is your target demo? Tom? He watches all of
this stuff. C W is a bunch of teams.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
How does how did listen?

Speaker 12 (19:13):
Man?

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Are you? Is this the only listen?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Man?

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Is this the only wells?

Speaker 17 (19:18):
Now?

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Are you the only?

Speaker 6 (19:19):
Is this?

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Is this the final Wells? Because the Mosi Verse, the
crisis happened, and everything happened, you know, and there's only
what like four earths five earths now in the whole
arrow verse, and now Supergirl lives on Earth one with
you guys, And I don't know. My point is, My.

Speaker 8 (19:38):
Point is, let the man fucking speak, dude, No, no, no,
keep going. He's getting worked up to.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
You're really excited. But I really do love the show.
I really do love the show. Now you and Cisco
Ramon together, I love Wells and Cisco Ramon. I love
the whole thing. So look, my question is, are you
the only Wells left? Now that you've gone off and
you've become pariah and everything like that, Is this the
only Wells there is?

Speaker 6 (20:00):
Here's what's ridiculous about doing the show, a superhero comic show.
I run into people like like you, and I just
I'm so inferior with my knowledge.

Speaker 18 (20:11):
I'm like, you know more, you know more than me.

Speaker 16 (20:14):
And I'm not exaggerating. I'm not trying to play Donald like.

Speaker 6 (20:16):
I understand by listening to you that you have a
better grasp of the whole thing than I do. I
feel like, as you guys know, when you do a
long running television show, if there needs to be another Wells,
there can be another Wells.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
That's what's UPO. Yeah, absolutely, here's the thing.

Speaker 8 (20:39):
Can you explain, Donald? First of all, catch your breath,
calm down. Okay, you're embarrassing us in front of our guests.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Listen, this is this is exactly what I did to
George Lucas Man. This is exactly what I.

Speaker 8 (20:48):
Can get too. By the way, when this show's over,
he's gonna take a nap because he's gonna get woozy.
He gets very amped up and then he gets woozy.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
This is what this is. All the fans out there
who were wondering how I geek out when I when
I meet or talk to people that do something that
I'm like holy shit about. This is it right here?
I can't breathe right now. I sweating. I know I
have a sweatshirt on, but I'm sweating under here.

Speaker 8 (21:09):
All right, But calm down now. For those of you
who don't know, Tom is on the Flash. And as
I understand it, with the CW Superhero shows, you bounce
around to the other shows in the same universe, right
and they all they're all under the Greg Burlany umbrella.
I'm guessing.

Speaker 6 (21:23):
Yes, the golden Boy of Hollywood that used to be
Bill Lawrence is now Greg Burlanty and has he has
four hundred shows on the air.

Speaker 8 (21:30):
Yeah, he's in part. By the way, my very first job,
Tom kevin well first lead in the movie was Broken
Hearts Club. Greg Burlanni's first movie. That's tremendous and and
now and and and he we went to Northwestern together
and he now he's like, has the most shows on
television of anybody.

Speaker 6 (21:46):
You and I when we were talking about doing your podcast, Uh,
the text that came up right next to that text
the last time we talked.

Speaker 16 (21:58):
Can I can I read a text that.

Speaker 8 (21:59):
Young as it's not like you up?

Speaker 6 (22:02):
It's quite.

Speaker 8 (22:05):
It's like four in the morning and I'm hammered.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
You up.

Speaker 16 (22:08):
It's solid comedy.

Speaker 6 (22:10):
It's you say, tell Berlin didn't want to do a
cameo as Reverse Flash's brother. I say done. You say,
totally unbuild though a surprise. But I'll need special powers.
I say, make a list, power list, nothing with heavy hammers.
That ship is boring. You say laser eyes please, I
say those are free.

Speaker 8 (22:31):
That sounds great.

Speaker 16 (22:33):
I feel like it's a miss.

Speaker 8 (22:34):
Why did that never happen?

Speaker 16 (22:36):
I know what I feel like now that would I've
done this? And I know that Donald wants to be
on board.

Speaker 6 (22:40):
I feel like now it's just now you're forcing his
hand because you're putting it out to the.

Speaker 16 (22:44):
Public and I was going to have to hire you.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
We were talking about white boards and putting manifesting your
destiny onto white boards. This is on my white board.
I'm putting it out there right now.

Speaker 8 (22:54):
I want to call Brilanny, and I had to call
him about something else, but I want to call Berlanny
and say, listen, Tom said I could be on the show.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah, because I have that kind of yes.

Speaker 8 (23:04):
I spoke to Tom.

Speaker 16 (23:07):
He said, like, hang on a second, Tom, Yeah, he's.

Speaker 8 (23:11):
Got he's got so many he's got so many shows.
He's like Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom.

Speaker 11 (23:15):
I know he is.

Speaker 16 (23:16):
I know who he is.

Speaker 8 (23:17):
And then he called he calls to a secretary. Do
we still do flash? Yeah? But by the way, how
funny would that be if Donald and I came on?
I mean I don't, to be honest, I don't. I
don't get breathless about the superhero stuff like Donald, but
he really loves it. So sorry, I digress the point.

Speaker 6 (23:37):
You should do the other thing you should do Donald.
You should figure out knowing it as you do. You
should figure out what the what the role is that
you want?

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Because I know what role I want? What do you want?
I want to say mine?

Speaker 16 (23:48):
Don't say mine.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
I kind of like, listen, I'm gonna put it out there.

Speaker 8 (23:51):
What do you want to.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
You guys kind of opened it up when Arrow ended,
and I know, I'm not sure if you guys are
allowed to touch it. You kind of touch on it
in Stargirl. But I think Green Lantern needs to be
in this you know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (24:08):
Joel is a Jewel's a big fan of this world too.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
And there's so many there are so many that are
in the Lantern core and I know that, you know.
And also size doesn't matter when you're a lantern. You
could be tiny, you could be why, you could be right,
come on, man. Anyway, My point is I think that's
one character that would be a lot of fun to play.

Speaker 12 (24:31):
You know.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
They there's so many people in the DC universe. But
if I had a choice and they were willing to
do it, I would love to be Green Lantern, all right.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
And I think I think that's really special and dear
to Greg, so I think that's great you're making this happen.

Speaker 8 (24:48):
Slash and the Green Can the Green Lantern be forty six?

Speaker 6 (24:53):
He could be anything, he could be any Look, I'm
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Speaker 16 (24:57):
I'm not a yellow. I'm wearing a yellow super suit.

Speaker 8 (24:59):
And sorry Tom for those of us who don't know,
and I'm sure some of our listeners don't know. Can
you just explain in in non superhero terms, what reverse
flash means? There is there a young guy flash.

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we did Scrub, like a good looking, handsome guy as
the lead, and then they cast this guy as his
brother Bill Lawrence had lost a bet somewhere. So basically,
a young guy Tom.

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That's what That's what you thought?

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Speaker 8 (29:42):
Okay, sorry, what is the Reverse Flash? For those of us?

Speaker 6 (29:44):
So, he's the Joker to the Batman, the lex Luthor
to the he's the bad guys.

Speaker 7 (29:50):
That we have.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
A young fellow, Grant Gustin plays the Flash and the
arch Enemy is the Reverse Flash. He wears a red suit,
and I play the arch Enemy the Reverse Flash of
e of Earth on I wear a yellow suit.

Speaker 16 (30:00):
It's kind of it.

Speaker 8 (30:00):
Are you doing lots of stunts and fighting?

Speaker 6 (30:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (30:03):
Yeah, can you imagine? It's crazy?

Speaker 6 (30:04):
You know that bucket list that you have as an
as an actor, and you want to do this theater,
You want to do this show.

Speaker 16 (30:11):
You want to do something like shows, you want the whiteboard.

Speaker 8 (30:14):
Yeah, we started, we started the show time before we
came on talking about just manifesting things by putting on
a whiteboard and staring at it.

Speaker 16 (30:20):
And it was weird to be in your green room
and not have the speakers going.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
I'm like, I wonder what they're talking about.

Speaker 8 (30:26):
We were talking about you, we were talking about manifesting,
and then.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
You well, that's exactly. That's a great that's such a
great call. This is one of those things I never
would have expected to do a superhero show, and it's
a you know, in terms of a bucket list, it's
it's so fun.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Yeah, you guys look like you have a lot of
fun on it, and it has no end in sight.
On your show, it has no end in sight.

Speaker 8 (30:45):
I mean, I just feel like they the Greg Brilin
keeps adding more and more to this, to this world, right,
I don't know if they're all they all must be
successful because they all keep going.

Speaker 16 (30:54):
I honestly, I honestly don't know. I never would have thought.

Speaker 6 (30:58):
I think when they started a number years ago, they
had uh and they've done super No, it was the
Superman show, small though, and then they did Arrow and
Arrow I think did well. And then but when we
started Flash, you guys, you guys all know how it is.
We started flashing. I said to my wife, well, this'll
be this will be canceled in seven So I'll go

(31:19):
up to Vancouver from New York and we'll shoot and
then it'll get canceled. Because even at that time I
had done two shows for Greg and both of them had,
you know, been canceled relatively quickly, because that's just how
it goes. And so I didn't foresee it, you know,
I just I never expected to go, and this thing
seemed to go. And even when you say there's no
end in sight, I still expect that you'll just get

(31:41):
the call like, hey, so, yeah, we're done.

Speaker 16 (31:43):
You just never know.

Speaker 8 (31:44):
For those for those of you not in the entertainmentustry,
we just we just never know.

Speaker 13 (31:48):
You know.

Speaker 8 (31:48):
You get you get a show like Scrubs and you're like, oh, yeah,
this could go six episodes and then it goes nine
years or you know, or or you know, Donald's did
this show and it when a season, and I did
a show when a season. It's every single time, it's
a roll of the dice, no matter you know, no
matter how many good ingredients there are, you just never know.

Speaker 6 (32:07):
Yeah, yeah, and most of the time the numbers are
it's it's gonna get canceled.

Speaker 8 (32:11):
It's not going to go right, especially now more than ever,
because you know, it's there's so much content. How the
hell does the something fine eyeballs? You know, and you're
on you're on the classic old school true network.

Speaker 13 (32:24):
You know.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
You guys do twenty four episodes a season. Do you
know what it's like to be able to do something
like most? I remember? I remember I did a show
called The Exes right after Scrubs, right of course, Yeah,
we did ten episodes a season. That was it for
an actor. It's like, wait, well, hold on, let's I

(32:47):
want to be I want to work all year round
if I possibly can. It was really weird to work
ten episodes and then have all of this time off
until you came back and did another ten, or you
would do what we would do thirty and they would
just chop it up into episodes. It was like you
never really find you never really find a pace or
a footing. It's like, well, how long are we going?

(33:08):
We're only going to do ten twenty two? You guys
seem to you know you live in Canada right now?

Speaker 14 (33:13):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (33:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (33:16):
Is it Vancouver, Vancouver, Canada?

Speaker 6 (33:18):
Conifers jewel of the city. Have you guys been I have.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
I love that town too.

Speaker 8 (33:22):
I think it's a beautiful city. I love it there.
I was there when the sun was out and it
was magnificence. Yes, And then I was told that it's
not always like that, and I don't know if I
would if I would like it rainy.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
Yeah, it's a it's a question of taste, Like when
the sun shines, there's no finer place.

Speaker 16 (33:38):
I don't mind the rain.

Speaker 6 (33:39):
But I think if you were somebody that didn't like
rain and preferred like seasons in snow, then this city
would not be for you.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
But it really is.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
It really is a coniferous jewel of a city.

Speaker 8 (33:49):
And are you mostly on stages and such or do
you go out and shoot on locations and stuff.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
It's it's almost follows a pretty regular schedule where we
do a lot of stage work early in the week
and then we do all this the stunt stuff. You know,
it's always you know, so Thursday, Friday nights, we're gonna
be we're gonna start at you know, five pm, or
we're gonna go all night and we're gonna like, you know,
have the guy run up a building and fight a
monster and then like we're gonna come.

Speaker 13 (34:11):
Back and win, you know.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
So you kind of you kind of you kind of
have to stay in shape for this thing, like you're
you're asked to do way more than you expected to
do when you start it.

Speaker 6 (34:20):
Huh Hey, it's a blessing and a curse, you know,
because the other thing is too is as you guys
know too, Like I mean, I'm older than you guys,
but there's a there's a thing where you when you
were a young actor, you could be vain, but you
wouldn't really matter because you're probably gonna look fine, you know.

Speaker 16 (34:37):
And then you get a little bit older, and then your.

Speaker 6 (34:40):
Coach, the people you're acting with, your co actors are
twenty eight twenty nine, you know, and they are fantastic.

Speaker 16 (34:47):
And then there's you, you know, and he's he looks
great in the suit.

Speaker 6 (34:50):
And then you can't really be on the donut diet
while you're on the suit, so you kind of have
to keep keeping in shape, you know.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
And so it's do you hang out with Jeff see
how Martin a lot.

Speaker 6 (35:01):
Jesse is a legend, as you guys know, coming from theater.
He's just he's amazing. He's got this thing, sus because
he's the captain. You know, he can he work it
with a hat and an overcoat. He doesn't have to
worry too much of it.

Speaker 13 (35:13):
You know.

Speaker 16 (35:13):
He's just like he's kind of like he runs.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
He basically is the beating heart, you know, runs the show,
the center of you know, reason, and uh, you know
he's he's got a great job and appreciates it.

Speaker 8 (35:26):
So Tom when ed, when the show ed, I want
to talk about that. When it came out, I was
an unemployed actor and my mom called me very very
concerned that I that I that I had gotten a
lead in the TV show and not told her because
she didn't understand why why I was on billboards all
over the country.

Speaker 17 (35:47):
And is that true?

Speaker 8 (35:48):
That's how it is? I mean, no, it is, I
mean she she she obviously sused that it was not me,
but she was like, there is a young man who's
on every billboard and and he looks a lot like you.
And I remember thinking, oh, yeah, mom, that's that's not me.
Uh yeah, I'm still still trying to get some auditions

(36:09):
going and uh and it was really humbling because I
was like that fucking guy who looks exactly like me
as a as a hit show leading role on NBC. Now,
no one's ever going to hire me. By the way,
Dak Shepherd, who also looks like us, told me this.
He was like when I was, when I was, you know,
became famous and was all over the place, he was like, well,

(36:32):
how is this gonna fuck my career? Because I look
like that guy and that guy's already working and so anyway,
I wanted to talk to you about Ed and tell
us I imagine that was your big break, right, I mean,
I know you worked a bunch, but that was your
first your own show, right for sure?

Speaker 16 (36:47):
I mean, first off Dax's and you have done quite
well for yourselves.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Yeah, I worked out guys so's Ray Romano.

Speaker 6 (36:56):
Yes it worked out, it didn't work out, but yeah,
I had done I'm Canadian and had I moved to
New York City and I think eighty nine to do Broadway.

Speaker 16 (37:08):
I did like a decade of theater and I absolutely
loved it, absolutely, one hundred percent loved that.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
And then I had done a small guest spots for
literally for ten years on ABCNBC. Back then it was
like just the four right, and I'd done a show
called Providence and then but I had no idea of
the profile that you guys enjoyed on Scrubs because the
shows a lot of the shows that I had done
when they were television shows or series. I've done a

(37:37):
couple of series in Canada, they were Canadian shows, and
there's no cross border pollination between the two countries. In
other words, you'll shoot a show in Canada and you'll
do ten episodes, but everybody in Canada is watching Friends, you.

Speaker 8 (37:51):
Know, So who's watching these Canadian shows?

Speaker 16 (37:55):
Well, it's it's different.

Speaker 6 (37:56):
In Canada. There's a federal mandate for these division show
so they do them and some of them are quite
quite good. And there's not a there's not a mill
the way there is behind the entertainment industry and the States.
Up in Canada, it doesn't, you know. Part of the
ethos of the country is like, well, let's not get

(38:18):
too big for ourselves then, you know, and so and
in the States it's very much the opposite, like let's see.

Speaker 16 (38:24):
How we can build up and how big we can get.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
And why that.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
Why that ethos is good is that you know you
you if you're working as an actor, you're working largely
because you love it because a lot of the attention,
at least back then.

Speaker 16 (38:40):
Now it's different because everything.

Speaker 6 (38:41):
Can be found. But back then, you know, you were
you were doing the same stuff we would do on
Scrubs that you'd come to set and there's all the
you know, the crew, and there's the people and it's
and it's great and you love it, and then you
leave set and it's still the exact same experience. It's
just that you're not going to radio City Music Hall
and doing the upfront, right, you know what I mean.
And so but it's nice in a strange way because

(39:04):
you understand that, oh, this is this is what I
love to do. And by the time I got ed,
like you know, fifteen years later, it was I was
aware enough that it was it's still the same experience.
And so even though suddenly, like you say, there was
like billboards plastered all over the place, I was readily
aware that you know that that was all that that

(39:26):
can get ripped away and it's semi superficial, and so
I think that was a nice little I don't know
what it would be like to have your face plastered
all over the place when you're in your mid twenties.
I think it would be a I think it would
be a tough fight.

Speaker 8 (39:39):
We didn't. We didn't get a big billboard buy, right,
Why the NBC didn't go They certainly went all in.
Whoever made the billboard decision for ED went all in.
And by the time Scrubs came on, they were like, dude,
remember a few years ago we shot our billboard budget
on ED. We have no billboards.

Speaker 6 (39:56):
Yeah, I'm so sorry about that, because why that that's
why you guys didn't get that big big But what
was funny is like I remember when the when Scrubs started,
how just how much of a splash it made.

Speaker 16 (40:08):
I'm sure you can remember, and it's not lost on you,
how like big a deal that that was.

Speaker 6 (40:13):
Like that show was so important, it seemed at the time.

Speaker 8 (40:17):
It was bizarre for us because also, you know, we
compare it to now, you know, the amount of people
watching a single TV show just doesn't happen anymore, especially live,
we really even at all, but let alone live when
it's airing. So it was a completely different eras that
would watch at.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Our worst, at our worst TV shows. Now if they
got our worst numbers right, yes, they would be considered
hit shows.

Speaker 8 (40:43):
Yeah, I mean yeah, noie, Tom, was was ed written
for you? Or did you audition?

Speaker 21 (40:49):
No?

Speaker 6 (40:49):
No, no, no, they didn't No, no, that was again,
that was NBC. They didn't want me at all, like
we had to. They went through, I think a year
of casting known people and you know, better humans, you.

Speaker 8 (41:03):
Know, and then well, you know, just just so people
that weren't in the entertainment industry know, they'll often try
and get a known star that's right, and if that
doesn't always work out for the reasons, and then they go, okay,
well let's start to read people that aren't famous yet,
and which is when this is how people like the
two of you. Well, yeah, I mean exactly exactly. It's

(41:24):
exactly how both Tom and I got our parts exactly.

Speaker 16 (41:28):
I was like the third I think, the third round
or so of doing it. The only reason I had
that job.

Speaker 6 (41:33):
I remember how generous you were at Bill's fortieth and
at we had the party, and he was you know,
you were like, you were just so gracious about because
you're clearly incredibly talented, and yet you had the wherewithal
to say, I owe so much to this guy.

Speaker 16 (41:51):
And I had the same story.

Speaker 17 (41:52):
There's a.

Speaker 6 (41:54):
Robernette and John beckhaman who ran the Late Show with Letterman,
were those are the guys that're and I got the
job as those guys said, this is the guy and
and you know, they.

Speaker 16 (42:04):
Managed to have enough stock that people would listen to them.

Speaker 6 (42:08):
And without without somebody standing up for you, sometimes you
just it just doesn't you know, it.

Speaker 16 (42:13):
Doesn't go your way. Those people are the only reason
I got that job.

Speaker 8 (42:17):
Do you know how many odd times you auditioned.

Speaker 6 (42:20):
I know I auditioned once in Los Angeles, and you
know how it is when you're like, oh that that
went well, you feel good about it, but I was
also like, okay, it was pilot season and it was
like one read during the day, but it felt good.
And then then they called me to to have the
the sessions that they do. They have a studio session
and network session, and it was very It was like

(42:43):
and this is I hope this isn't boring. I don't
mean to talk about but they we went and we
had to do it. It was at CBS at the time,
by the way, I don't know if you guys know
that show that was CBS, not NBC, and CBS ultimately
didn't think so they got picked up at CBS, and
then CBS never aired the show, and then a year

(43:04):
later NBC picked it up, which is weird.

Speaker 8 (43:06):
So that never happens.

Speaker 6 (43:08):
It never happened.

Speaker 8 (43:09):
Every time you make a pilot, it's always such a
bizarre thing, both when I've been in them or when
I've directed them. You put so they put so much
money in, they put so much work in, and then
a network chooses what they choose, and then the disc
cards are like they have like the smell of shit
on them. No one will touch them, and it's like,
it's like, what someone just spent six million dollars making
this pilot. You could look at it and maybe recas,

(43:32):
maybe you could recast some things, you could you could
reshoot half of it. Whatever, Well, why are you throwing
it all the way. It's so it's always a bizarre
waste of money to me, because there's there's diamonds in
the rough that no one is So this situation is
very rare that then another network wade Man will take it.

Speaker 6 (43:48):
I don't know that it ever happened before with CBS.
I think from what I the only reason that that
happened was again because Robert Nette and ran the Letterman shit.
It was because Letterman had such a big he was
such a big paycheck, he was such a big entity
at the time. That was the only reason I think

(44:09):
that that that card. If a producer didn't have that
card to say that would probably have never never happened.
But when I went into to read, you know, ostensibly
the thing was a comedy with heart, and so you know,
you know, you know how these it's so funny, how
these things change.

Speaker 16 (44:26):
So I went in to read.

Speaker 6 (44:28):
I was solid and funny in the room and made
them laugh. And then normally, okay, the job is yours,
this is at the network read. But then somebody there's
you know, twenty five people in the room, and somebody
starts going, but but what about this this I don't
like this about him?

Speaker 16 (44:41):
And then that sort of you know, you see that
the next thing you know, you had it and then
you don't have it right.

Speaker 6 (44:47):
And I remember Rob and John came out and Rob
was he had this real serious face and he's like, look,
so they don't know if you can they don't know
if you can do straight drama. So h you know,
it was a comedic scene about a guy finding out
that his wife is sleeping with a mailman, and they're like,
you just need to do that scene again and throw

(45:08):
out all the comedy and play it like, you know,
play it like a Shakespeare tragedy.

Speaker 8 (45:12):
I was like, okay, oh my god.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
And I went in and did that and you know,
just completely straight as possible, and they were like, okay,
he can he can.

Speaker 22 (45:22):
Do that too.

Speaker 8 (45:22):
It's so amazing.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Exact same speech I got pretty much really fucked up. Yeah,
pretty much when.

Speaker 8 (45:28):
They weren't saying he fucked up. Donald legit fucked up.
He didn't say he fucked up.

Speaker 19 (45:31):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
When I wore audition for Scrubs, I got real big
in the audition because it was a comedic scene, and
I got real big and animated, and Bill had to
come out and be like, dude, tone that ship down, yeah, because.

Speaker 6 (45:46):
It's funny as you know, like I think, sometimes an
executive here's another executive speaking, goes, I better weigh in
as well, you know.

Speaker 16 (45:53):
So suddenly they're like he's big. Yeah, he's too big, Yeah,
he's too bid. Suddenly it becomes this thing and you're like.

Speaker 8 (45:57):
Oh, no, if actors, only if actors who have yet
to be in one of these rooms only knew, Oh
my gosh, the tight rope you're walking to try and
get a fucking roll. Yeah, oh dude, and how it
just it just falls on one person being like, I
don't know what if, and then all of a sudden
you didn't have the part anymore, and you had the
part for a second.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
Yeah right. I've been in a room and watch somebody
destroy it, like kill it, come in and destroy it,
and then someone else come in and do a really
good job but not destroy it. And I saw, well
the first person obviously, and one person in the room
was like, well, you know what, I'm not sure they

(46:36):
actually look like the part. You know what, You're right,
they don't necessarily look like the part. And all of
this doubt happened, and the person that crushed it did
not get the role, and the person that just did
good got the role because there.

Speaker 6 (46:49):
Was getting just listening to this.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
It's crazy, dude.

Speaker 8 (46:52):
I was once working on something and this girl came
in and she was young, you know, she was like
a young Jennifer Gardner type. She was really pretty. She
was early twenties and super expressive and funny, and I
thought that she should get the part. Another girl came
in very very funny. Well, you could have done it too,
but I preferred the first girl. I thought she was better.

(47:13):
One of the executives goes, regarding the first girl, the
young Jennifer Garner type, She goes, she's very expressive. Should
we worry about her wrinkling early?

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Wow?

Speaker 8 (47:28):
Now, mind you, this is like a twenty early twenty
something year old girl and she's very pretty. And the
not only is that the most ludicrous thing you can
ever imagine another human being saying, but in your mind,
the show is going to go so many years that
her wrinkles that come from her being expressive were going

(47:48):
to be a problem. I mean, it was the most
ludicrous thing I've ever heard of them a whole lot.

Speaker 16 (47:51):
It's appalling. It's appalling.

Speaker 6 (47:54):
The other part of it is actors can act, you know,
and so so I don't how many times so like
you've done a thing and then like, yeah, the feedback is, yeah,
we wanted it a little bigger.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
It's like say that ship, you know, say that shit,
why don't you let me do the whole audit? Listen, man,
why did you let me do the whole audition? That big.
Then if that's the case, somebody in the room could
have said, hey, you know what, I love your choice.
You could be diplomatic about it. I loved your choice. Listen,
can you tone it down a little bit this time?

Speaker 8 (48:22):
Right?

Speaker 4 (48:23):
You know what I mean? That never happens anymore, dude.
I do remember though, back in the day when I
was going out for auditions, and it would be like
somebody who was from the urban or from the streets
and stuff like that, and you'd get the can you
can you spice it up a little?

Speaker 17 (48:36):
Dog?

Speaker 4 (48:37):
You can you can you put a little sauce on that?

Speaker 21 (48:42):
No?

Speaker 8 (48:43):
How would they say it? Like what's the worst base?
One would say that, can you spice it up a
little bit? Spice it up a little?

Speaker 4 (48:49):
And you'd be like what.

Speaker 8 (48:53):
I had a producer say to me once about a script.
She goes, you know, she was this old lady. She goes,
you know, you could go black with it, and I go, okay, yeah,
that's that's just there's no reason. She goes, you know,
they're doing their thing. She did that, judge, you guys
can't see the gest jure me and she sort of
rocked back and forth. She goes, you know they're they're

(49:15):
doing their thing. It was one of the most awkwardive
things I've ever witnessed. I go, okay, so you want
them to do their thing?

Speaker 15 (49:25):
I got it?

Speaker 8 (49:31):
Oh my god? Should we get it? We have to
take a break probably, and then we're gonna get into
the episode. All right, We'll be right back with the
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Speaker 4 (53:47):
Hey, we always talk about how everybody met Bill and
how you came to this show. You wound up during
the show for several seasons.

Speaker 8 (53:56):
Lots of episodes you miss, so you must have been
one of our most recurring guest stars.

Speaker 6 (54:02):
I don't know that, but I can tell you I
was always hugely grateful to get the call. I sort
of feel like even being on this podcast is sort
of like I've sort of, like I was telling your producers,
I've sort of like glommed my way on by like,
you know, get that somehow this got put out there.
But I also felt that same way about Scrubs, Like

(54:23):
I don't really do Scrubs, but I sort of like
piggybacked on the back of their success. And I've been
basically a parasite this whole time, and I'm so so
grateful for it because.

Speaker 8 (54:33):
People loved you on the show.

Speaker 17 (54:34):
Tom.

Speaker 6 (54:34):
Sorry, it's funny, how like, no, no, but it's funny.
How like when you like it isn't anywhere, you can't
find it anywhere. Most of this a lot of stuff
that's harder, harder to find. And I would say scrubs
is the thing. Even though you know, you guys were
you get all you guys did such a great job,
but I did nothing. I still get recognized all the

(54:54):
time from I hear people all the time want to say, hey,
little brother, or they remember this, remember the bathtub episode.

Speaker 16 (55:00):
I remember this kind of thing.

Speaker 6 (55:00):
And you know, it was like ninety years ago and
people are still like, it's still resonant. It's on Comedy Central.
It's just like it's it's.

Speaker 16 (55:06):
Lovely to be associated with your success.

Speaker 8 (55:08):
Well, people really loved you on the show. They really,
you know, when when when Donald and I talked about
having guests on a lot of people asked for the
Tom Kavanaugh. But wait a second, sorry, go back to
what Donald asked, How did you come about? How did
it come about? Did you know Bill? Or was it
the obvious that people thought he's on NBC he looks
like Zach that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
No.

Speaker 12 (55:28):
I I.

Speaker 6 (55:32):
Think I had been friendly with Bill, and we weren't.
We weren't friends before we sort of became friends throughout,
but we had, you know, had spoken and gotten along
and he he and his wife had always been like
quite friendly and generous and stuff, and so I think
it must have been him saying, oh, okay, I know Tom.

(55:55):
I I have a friendly relationship with him, and so
this seems like a natural fit because of how we look.
I think you run into people and you're like, I
would like to work with this person again, you know
what I mean. That happens occasionally, and it almost never happens.
I think all your intentions are always great, and yet
you're still trying to have a job and survive, and

(56:16):
so sometimes it's quite quite difficult, given you know, it's
very difficult to repatriate again. So I think I think
maybe we got along and then he was like, oh
this is this could be a nice little one off,
but then it ended up being more, which is tremendous.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
Because you're really good on the show man. Also, you know,
I we talk about this all the time in remembering
the shows. This is one of we talk about it
so much that it's become a bingo. It's one of
the bingo questions. Like somebody made a bingo sheet, and
on the bingo sheet it says they'll talk about at
some point, you know, if they talk about not remembering

(56:53):
the show, you get a letter, right, And this is
one of those moments because I really didn't remember this
episode that much. I knew the first episode I remember
you on is when John Ritter passed away and then
you out of nowhere, was like, yo, you know what,
I'll come in and now.

Speaker 8 (57:10):
And wait, how was that this one?

Speaker 4 (57:13):
That's not this one? That's not this one at all?

Speaker 6 (57:16):
That was another significant one that was such a again,
you know, I think I don't know if you had
because you're there and you have no basis of comparison
for you people.

Speaker 16 (57:24):
You guys were like all all all your group was
such a welcoming you know.

Speaker 6 (57:28):
It's it's it's interesting because once you go through, you know,
thirty years of this stuff, it's not always you know,
it's not always a group like that, you know, and
I obviously don't know all the inside stories and stuff
because I would.

Speaker 16 (57:40):
Just come in and out. But but being in a
place where you felt welcomed and.

Speaker 6 (57:47):
Encouraged and the idea is that that you guys, I
can remember laughing so hard at the stuff you guys
would do that wasn't in the script, knowing that you
would do this stuff verbatim as it was in the script,
knowing that you would get your blows your chances, and
I thought, this is incredible, like this this environment. I
remember you Zach doing one of I've seen like the
actor who played Ross Kueller, David Swimmer running to a

(58:10):
he had an open laundry door and he like hits
his head on it and falls over there. That's one
of the most solid modern day praftfalls. And you did
one to do a glass door that was like we're
just we're just watching, you know. We were sitting by
the monitors, and I was like, I remember thinking this,
and this is like years ago. I remember thinking I
could watch him do this all great long. Every time
you didn't get tired of it, you kept doing it.

(58:32):
Every time you did it, it was like seemed like
better than the last.

Speaker 8 (58:34):
I wanted to get it right, you know. I so
enjoyed doing the physical comedy and and I would get
competitive just with myself, wanting to be wanting to wanting
to make a really good one. And and uh, you
know that was a bit of my that was my sport.
If you will try to be good at I remember
one time in one of the episodes you jumped out
and I just improved monsters. Yeah, and you know the

(59:00):
fun thing about the show, as you were just saying,
was there was such a vibe of just safety, that is,
this is a safe environment. Go nuts, do be adventurous.
You know, Bill will tell you you obviously get do
it as written, but he'll tell you if he wants
you to bring it down. But I was just watching
this your first episode, and you were making such bold

(59:22):
choices and right so tricky, which is tricky because you know,
we'd be bound the show. We're regulars, we're there all
the time, we had we had kind of built up
that comfortableness for a guest star to come on and
be like, all right, I'm gonna do a bold character.
I'm gonna make bold choices. I was really I was
really impressed with you just watching it back, because it's
one thing if you do it like on your fifth episode.
Here you are is your first time on set, your

(59:44):
guest star of a show that that's really popular, and
you came up with this character which was nothing like
your character on ED and was just bold and funny.

Speaker 6 (59:54):
But it was probably a lot to do with, like
I say, just being around a place where people were like, hey,
have fun, enjoy I think I think it just bears
repeating that your show was such a such a place
where you know, you welcome people to do that very
thing you were talking about.

Speaker 16 (01:00:13):
I remember also being so impressed.

Speaker 6 (01:00:16):
I'm sorry to talking about it, but it just it
just seemed like I remember season six coming in and
doing something, and I remember thinking, I remember watching on
different shows i'd done, how you know people buy into like, well,
how what's our place in the universe of television?

Speaker 16 (01:00:31):
Like are we popular? Are we you know, are we
getting enough attention?

Speaker 6 (01:00:35):
And I think you guys probably had you know, the NBA,
Why don't they promote us all that kind of stuff.
But I remember coming in on season six and watching
you had settled into this thing like this is us
and this is for us, and it was such a
smart and intelligent way to understand that life is fleeting,
this is fleeting, and so let's just all be for

(01:00:56):
this show. And when you when you come from a
different place and you come into that, it influenced me
for the rest of my career to go, this is
really what you want. People who are have each other's backs,
who are for each other, who want to just do
this scene right now as best as they can, and
what more is that?

Speaker 8 (01:01:16):
Yeah, speaking of doing a scene, really well, how fucking
funny are you stealing the lab coat and going in
to attend to a patient?

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
That shit was hilarious, Yeah, mister laughed, before we do that.
Before we do that, let's get into this, uh recap?

Speaker 8 (01:01:33):
Oh yeah, sorry? So Tom, every episode, Donald will sum
it up. He has thirty seconds. I time him.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Yes, and this is great.

Speaker 8 (01:01:41):
Okay, So Donald, hold on getting my stop watch up.
He's been crushing it lately. He got in a little
cocky late and and and ending early, which I don't like.
I like you to fill your time. Now, this might
go over. Okay, on your mark, Get set go.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
J d's brother Dan comes to this. He wrecks havoc
on all of JD's relationships. JD wishes his brother would
just grow up. Turkey and Cocks are beefing again, this
time because both have good arguments on why their departments
are better at saving lives. By the act break, Jdan
Turk are shamed, Turk of himself, j D of his brother.
For Turk, it takes a lesson from an unexpected person

(01:02:18):
for him to regain faith that he's doing his job
the right way. For JD. It's him learning and understanding
that not all people are built the same. Some people
are content with who they are. How far did I
go over?

Speaker 8 (01:02:30):
It's thirty six, But you had some fuck ups, and
I think the audiences to give you geez.

Speaker 6 (01:02:35):
I thought it was amazing.

Speaker 8 (01:02:36):
It's well done. It's well done. I think when you
were hurt. I don't think you rehearsed this time. Sometimes.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
No, it's freaking we're an hour into the damn show.
I expected to do that.

Speaker 8 (01:02:45):
You well, he didn't know that Tom Cavanaugh was going
to be so interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
I said, listen, I knew Tom was going to be
this interesting. So you're saying we were going to get
into the show.

Speaker 8 (01:02:54):
What you're saying is that you were rehearsed right before
he went on the air. And now you're rusty, and
I was rusty.

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
If you give me another chance, I bet it's better.

Speaker 8 (01:03:01):
No, I don't want to hear it again.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
Sick.

Speaker 8 (01:03:03):
Good job, you know what, well, you know what. We'll
have Dan speed it up a little bit. No, we
can't do no. Yeah, thirty six seconds, thirty six well
done though, Well, yes, well that's the episode. To remind you, Tom,
we did this as a service to people who want
a brief reminder of what the episode was.

Speaker 5 (01:03:18):
Tom.

Speaker 8 (01:03:19):
Tom comes to visit me. He's been driving a car
across the country as a for for three hundred dollars,
and uh, he has no fear of doctor Cox, which
is just mind boggling me. And I'm squirming that he's
I'm squirming as he meets Cox for the first time
and is fucking with doctor Cox.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Yeah, that would be the best day of my life
if I went to my brother's job and he had
a boss that was bullying him, and I could freaking
and I know that no matter what, he's gonna get
bullied anyway, I'm gonna fuck some shit up. Then how
about this, Oh wort, you gotta mess with my little brother.
Now I'm gonna mess with you.

Speaker 8 (01:03:54):
Yeah, you know, I remember the day. I think I
remember on the day Tom even being nervous in real
life because I was so you know, Johnny was Johnny
and I we were versions of our characters and and
we would just play that. Now you came in as
an alpha fucking with him, and I think I think
I recalled even on the day being a little uncomfortable,
But I think didn't like it, and I'm I'm sure

(01:04:18):
he did, because nobody in that hospital, in the real
world or on or in the world of the show
fucked with him, and he had gotten quite comfortable with that.
And now here's someone who looks just like me walking
with him. But that was great. And then so the
let's talk about that Rickles moment. That was pretty fucking funny.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
That ship was hilarious. I love the fact that the
reason why it's gonna happen is because he hears Bambi
and You're like, all right, I don't want you to
call me bamb before the rest of my life. I'll
lab wear a lab coat with a lab cooat. And
he walks in and he goes and you know, and
and and we find out just before he walks in
that the guy's got to live and that the surgery
was everything was a success. And the first first thing

(01:05:00):
Tom says, Dan says is it was touch and go for.

Speaker 8 (01:05:04):
Ye And then he goes, you got out. We got
to look out for those little Rickles and he goes,
his name is Rickles.

Speaker 6 (01:05:10):
He's like the little Reckles the kids future.

Speaker 8 (01:05:15):
And then I go, okay, thank you. When you go
damn it Babby, I'm busy to find a good nurse
these days. And shot was really funny by Michael Spiller
when you when you turn around, Yeah, I'm always a
sucker for the quick turnaround.

Speaker 6 (01:05:32):
Yes, of course, damn it, Bamby, give me a second.

Speaker 8 (01:05:34):
Yeah, exactly, I'm busy. Hilarious, And now my nightmare would
be my brother coming and flirting with someone that I
had feelings for and let alone, also your friend. I mean,
this is like always awkward when you have a friend
that's like, I don't know if this guy's ever happened
to you, where like you broke up with someone and

(01:05:56):
then you see your friends starting to like and you're like,
what the fuck? And and and I just I felt
for JD as you, as you and Sarah are walking
down the hall and flirting, and it's cruel.

Speaker 6 (01:06:07):
It's awful.

Speaker 8 (01:06:08):
It's so fucking mean.

Speaker 6 (01:06:09):
It's awful.

Speaker 8 (01:06:10):
Yeah, and it's mean, by the way, it's me on
both parts. It's mean on, it's mean on. I mean,
you guys have a brother, you guys those two characters
had had a brother competition thing, obviously, but the fact
that Elliott was so willing to just like dive in
and be all like gigly. That was so cruel.

Speaker 16 (01:06:26):
Yeah, it was mean.

Speaker 6 (01:06:27):
It was like, ah, he's so funny, and he's not
really that funny, but he was just being You're like, ah, yeah,
I know, that's okay. You just and then the idea
that wait, this is actually happened, This is happening, is happening.
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
I love I love the how he realizes it's happening
out of nowhere. You turn day tonight by flicking a switch.

Speaker 8 (01:06:48):
That was great, and then they start totally making out
and then and then they pop back to reality. And
then in reality, I yell, stop your stop your stupid laughing.
It makes you look like a whore.

Speaker 6 (01:07:00):
Right, you're kidding, Just the worst thing you could say.

Speaker 8 (01:07:04):
And then the way I did it was like vomiting
it up, like I couldn't. I couldn't hold in the rain.

Speaker 16 (01:07:11):
You skewed it out.

Speaker 8 (01:07:13):
Yeah, stupid laughing.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
It makes you look like goodness, grace jump cut.

Speaker 8 (01:07:19):
Yeah, I must have been tricky to shoot. We must
have done the first part and then come back.

Speaker 16 (01:07:23):
We did.

Speaker 17 (01:07:23):
We did.

Speaker 6 (01:07:24):
Then we came back at night and Sarah had this idea.
We were both chewing gum like spit the gum out,
you know, and then like you know, have the all
the fun two three four.

Speaker 8 (01:07:34):
Were you call that chewing gum like throughout the whole
scene or do you you both? You know, sometimes when
you're an actor, you know you're going to make out
with someone, you want to have fresh minty breath.

Speaker 12 (01:07:40):
Was it?

Speaker 6 (01:07:41):
I think she?

Speaker 16 (01:07:42):
I think she no.

Speaker 6 (01:07:43):
I think she added gum later on, because there was.
It was one of two things. One is like you
kissed the person, then they have the gum that you
had in your mouth not great.

Speaker 18 (01:07:53):
Or you know, pew pew.

Speaker 16 (01:07:54):
And I think she we realized we could.

Speaker 6 (01:07:56):
Have a we could double down on the comedy moment
by spitting our gum out.

Speaker 8 (01:07:59):
Before we used to have but we used to have
banaka on set, not not just for.

Speaker 6 (01:08:04):
I remember you guys had the You guys had the
You also had the boom things that melt in your mouth.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, it does give you heartburn.

Speaker 8 (01:08:12):
They give me heartburn. Yeah, both Donald and I would
have too many and they would give us heartburn. But
the old school aerosol spray baknaka, which is my favorite.
We started having it just from we had kissing scenes
and we didn't want to have bad breath for our
scene partner. But then it became like, you know, we're
all friends, all up in each other's faces all day long.
We're like, let's make a rule everybody, we don't have

(01:08:32):
bad breath, and so we would like just be spraying
a NonStop dude.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
I remember, it became how many can you spray in
your mouth? And burn his mouth like tin under the tongue,
just for ships and Giggles's.

Speaker 8 (01:08:46):
And eventually our boom operator velcrode one to the boom
and and we called it boom naka and we'd be
like Kevin boom naka and he would just dip the
boom down. We'd pull the as off off the mic
I was on deltrow and then and attach it back up.
That's great, A right there, that's some Yeah, that was thought.

(01:09:06):
We thought he was gonna do it for like a
day as a joke.

Speaker 6 (01:09:07):
It was up there for years, same same canister, hopefully
hopefully changed out.

Speaker 8 (01:09:15):
I like when at five point twenty four, when when
Cox goes, well, people please stop calling me, yes, and
then Kelsea Walkspine goes hey, I'm nuts, sorry, I'm nutsy.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
How's it going. I'm nuts.

Speaker 6 (01:09:29):
He had another one in there where he was like
I don't have time for pity or something like that,
or yeah, right when he's talking to Johnny Castle.

Speaker 8 (01:09:36):
Oh yeah, I wrote that down too, and why does
why does well? First of all, when you scare me
in the shower? Hilarious. That was the first of many
scared we.

Speaker 16 (01:09:44):
Did, like ten we did ten. Do you remember that?

Speaker 6 (01:09:46):
I remember I remember waiting, waiting in the thing behind
the curtain and like thinking, oh, this maybe this one
will do this, Like there was we had like five
or six different ones, and I think the first one
was really terrifying for you.

Speaker 8 (01:09:59):
I remember that. Uh, it's funny. I just put two
and two together that I guess we bought the clear
shower curtain that's in the opening of the show, right,
because wasn't there a clear shower curtain when you scare me?

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:10:09):
No, no, there isn't a shower curtain that it's opaque
when I come out because you don't see me.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
And then right, and you thought it looks like it's clear.

Speaker 16 (01:10:17):
I thought, I have I have because you have you
guys have that runner earlier on.

Speaker 8 (01:10:21):
Yeah, so we're we're shopping for a clear shower curtain
and then whereas it it is five point thirty two.
I'm just curious because it'd be funny if we, uh
we happen to keep the shower. Yeah, it's clear.

Speaker 6 (01:10:34):
Oh goodness, how could it?

Speaker 17 (01:10:36):
Then?

Speaker 18 (01:10:36):
How can you bought it?

Speaker 8 (01:10:37):
We actually bought it? There you go. Okay, look at
that continuity. Yeah, I mean I got air, dude, you
scared the ship out of me. And I mean in
real life, and I think the character. But I obviously
had a nice juicy map behind me because I like
literally flew up.

Speaker 6 (01:10:54):
Yes, yes, it's solid and once again Zach.

Speaker 8 (01:10:56):
Braft Solid, Zach Braft Special good stuff. I laughed. When
Laverne makes her own Halloween candy, she says she's dressed.
First of all, she's dressed like Raggedy Ann and uh
and there's like this bowl of popcorn and homemade lollipops
and she says something like, if you want name brand stuff,

(01:11:18):
this fist is packed with nuts or something.

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
This episode was actually written by Tim Hobert.

Speaker 8 (01:11:27):
Yes, I believe.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
Was he with us the first season? Well, he came
in on second.

Speaker 8 (01:11:31):
Him was not their first season, no, But he's a
very funny writer.

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
So this is his first big episode. This is first
episode of the season. Then, yeah, and also Mike Spiller's
back as our director.

Speaker 8 (01:11:41):
We like Spiller a lot. This is the first episode
in which I read on Scrubs Wiki this is the
first episode that you're ever called Gandhi by doctor Cox.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
That's interesting. Sarah's sister is actually one of the interns
in this episode. Also, yeah, and Cox is I mean
when Kelso's doing rounds in the beginning, Sarah.

Speaker 8 (01:11:57):
When when Kelso pulls he hates the costumes and he
pulls some cat ears off, and that's Sarah's sister, not
not her younger sister obviously, that's yeah, it's her older sister.
And then I noticed that Johnny Castle playing Doug. He
takes off the clown knows and kisses it. And I
remember on the day thinking that was so random and funny,

(01:12:18):
but I have no idea why he does it. It's
very weird out.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
Yeah, no, I know exactly.

Speaker 8 (01:12:23):
He takes the clown that Kelso says, take that fucking
costume off, and he takes the nose off, and he
looks at it and he gives a little kiss before
he fucking which is just so weird. And amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:12:34):
I don't know why he did it, but yeah, the
scene between you and Johnny C when you win the
bet is like, to me, that was just such classic
scrubs because it's it's good in the in and of
itself with the comedy's just hilarious, especially when you're celebrating and.

Speaker 18 (01:12:49):
It kind of goes on.

Speaker 6 (01:12:50):
Then it goes on, then it keeps going on, which
I personally it's funny. Then it's sort of maybe not funny.
Then it's really funny because you just keep doing it.
You do the backward why, and it's just all the
different beats of your comedy there. It's just like had
me laughing and I'd forgotten the scene and then and
then there's then there's that other level where he's like, yes,
which is what that's what your show did so well,

(01:13:12):
where it's like you have the great comedy and that
could just on another show that would just be enough.
And then it's like there's a hammer a gravitas that
still works. It's beautiful. It ends with ends with you
like with a legit serious moment considering this information.

Speaker 16 (01:13:26):
It's great.

Speaker 8 (01:13:26):
It's a matter of Joelle and you just look like
you freaked ou him on something.

Speaker 14 (01:13:29):
Uh oh, Gena Price Price when heard a thing I
did and I love her.

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
Sorry, okay, wait what happened?

Speaker 8 (01:13:36):
I'm sorry, Wait what happened? I think since you distracted
the show, you're gonna have to share what happened?

Speaker 14 (01:13:41):
Sorry, Gena Price bikeeleot It is a amazing director.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
She directed to Love Basketball and she just has a
new movie on Netflix Cold, Oh my gosh, The Old Guard. Yes,
black lady who's been working for a very long time,
and I love her. She used to write on Felicity,
like season one of Felicity she wrote, and then she
went on, all right, but.

Speaker 8 (01:14:01):
What happened that made your face light up? Because I
thought it was Tom's use of the word gravitas.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
Acknowledge my existence.

Speaker 8 (01:14:10):
I get so excited, Oh well, congratulations. What did she say?
What she like, you're one of the articles you've written
or something.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
Yeah, I did a pod talking about the new movie
and she was like, this was so great. I was like,
oh my god, that's.

Speaker 8 (01:14:23):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:14:24):
That's always good to be alogetic. Don't know that.

Speaker 8 (01:14:28):
I just want the listeners to know. From my point
of view, Tom said the word gravitas and Joel's face
lit up and she started like doing the hand thing
where you might cry, And I'm like, wow, Joelle really
loves the word gravias.

Speaker 6 (01:14:43):
She had better reasons to celebrate, Yah, better reasons to celebrate.
I'm glad to hear it wasn't gravitas either, the old
guard plug.

Speaker 4 (01:14:50):
That's great, that would be that would be the funniest
ship ever.

Speaker 8 (01:14:53):
But she just loves to word gravata whenever she whenever
she hears it, she has to fan her eyes. I
love Donald You're bragging about having two singles in your wallet.
You say hello mister when he gives you the funny
Hello Jackson, me introduce you to the Washington Brothers right now.

Speaker 4 (01:15:13):
You guys get nice and acquainted.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
And in.

Speaker 8 (01:15:17):
Mamallet you're dancing. There was so funny, man.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
Yes, I had a lot of I had a lot
of fun doing that. I'm sure I did. It's it's
really weird, you know how things change, Because everybody did
a Michael Jackson impersonation back in the day. Everybody did it.
I can't recall the last time I've seen Michael Jackson impersonation.
He's been a very very long time.

Speaker 17 (01:15:39):
Now.

Speaker 8 (01:15:39):
You probably if we were doing the show. Now, you
probably wouldn't be doing so many Michael Jackson's now I
Love a Growing Pain shout out for those of you
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(01:16:00):
my mom, but he's got his own area. He's like
Kirk Cameron when he's about the garage with Boner and
Kirk Cameron had a friend in the show name name Boner,
which made no sense. Why was his friend named Boner?
Everyone knows what his name.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
His last name was the Bones, the Bone, and his
dad's name was Sylvester.

Speaker 16 (01:16:18):
But then you right, you yell out to the room Boner.
Come on everyone, Boner, it's too too low hanging fruit.

Speaker 8 (01:16:26):
No, come on Boner, speaking of lauging.

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
You guys didn't hear what I said. His dad's name
Will was Sylvester and his last name is Sta Bone.

Speaker 8 (01:16:35):
Sylvester Stabone. Yeah, do you know the Growing Pains theme?

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
Instead of Sylvester Stallone, Sylvester Stabone, do you know the
pain I get?

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
It.

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
Okay, it just wasn't that funny. I guess. I'm sorry.
I thought it was hilarious when I first arder with
Joe kids. Wait a second, boner, your dad's name is
Sylvester stabone. And then he turns back and looks that
Mike and goes, who knew?

Speaker 21 (01:17:00):
What?

Speaker 8 (01:17:01):
Right joke? Donald? Do you know the theme song? Tom?

Speaker 12 (01:17:06):
Tom?

Speaker 8 (01:17:07):
You might not know this, but Donald can sing song.

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
If you tell me how it starts, I could sing it.
Show me that smart again, Okay, zech, I got it.
Don't waste another it on your crying. And we're nowhere
near the end. Her best is edit to begain.

Speaker 8 (01:17:30):
Oh, okay, can start it too high. As long as we.

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
Got each other, we got the world hanging right and
our hands baby rain.

Speaker 8 (01:17:42):
Or shine foot all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
Okay, we've got each other sharing the left of love,
sharing the left.

Speaker 8 (01:17:57):
So I'm going to release an album Tom of Donalds.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
The show that did every season they did a different
version of that song.

Speaker 8 (01:18:05):
Oh really. They also at some point they had a baby,
and then they were like, the baby's boring, and next
season she's gonna be five. And they also they also
had nobody else to age. But the baby was all
of a sudden five.

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
They also like fostered a kid for a little bit.
Who was young Leonardo DiCaprio.

Speaker 8 (01:18:23):
Oh right, I was young Leo's first show, I believe.

Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
Well, I don't know if it was his first, but.

Speaker 8 (01:18:29):
There's really cute. I've seen like you know when they
do like you know, you know, remember who this little
boy was. I've seen like his first interviews. I just
love being an actor and I'm just happy to be
with these guys. It was really cute, and now look
at him. Donald has a little Leo crushed. Tommy comes
up almost every episode.

Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
I love Leonardo DiCaprio.

Speaker 8 (01:18:48):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
Last one of my favorite actors of all time.

Speaker 8 (01:18:53):
One of our last episodes ended with Donald talking about
trying to doc with.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
No no, no, no, no, no, no go breaking. We
gotta go to break. We gotta guess. Guys should bring
just we should go to break. Guys break.

Speaker 8 (01:19:12):
We'll be right back after Donald dox Leo, No, no, no, no.

Speaker 16 (01:19:16):
Again. What did he say? What was that now?

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
I did not say I wanted to dock with Leo.
I just said thought he was a great actor.

Speaker 8 (01:19:22):
We went to break, We went, we haven't okay, yet
all right, now we're going to break.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
We gotta. I think we need to clarify this because
I don't want it out there and the ethos that
somebody that I'm walking around telling people I want to
dock with Leo because that ain't what's happening here.

Speaker 8 (01:19:36):
Okay, do not want to dock Leo? Everybody? Yes, he does.
We're going to break.

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Speaker 8 (01:23:47):
All right, now we're back Tom. We take a caller
here on this show and Joelle curates them. There are
zillions of people that email her and try and send
her Paola and she it's.

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
All steps, all the money.

Speaker 8 (01:24:00):
She accepts, all the money, all the money sends.

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
You send money to Joel, do it the right way.
Don't send like sending the real deal. How do we
feel thought? If you don't get picked? But money does help.

Speaker 8 (01:24:12):
But you know, cash is a little crass. What you
could sell? Send baskets. Cash is crash. I don't know
if it has ever said that before, but I was
a good line.

Speaker 16 (01:24:20):
Cash is crass.

Speaker 8 (01:24:21):
Cash is crash. Send the woman a wine basket or
some of God's let us uh, she'll take either one. O. G.

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
Cush is preferred.

Speaker 8 (01:24:30):
Who do we have today? Is preferred for the Tom Cavanaugh.
Who Who's America's favorite older brother? We have Christina?

Speaker 4 (01:24:41):
Christina? Hello, where are you calling from? Christina? Kuston and
the House?

Speaker 8 (01:24:52):
Christina, you're an e onurse. We heard, so that means
you're gonna get even more respect than the average caller.
We give our callers a lot of respect, but an
our nurse gets top respect.

Speaker 6 (01:25:02):
From thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
What's it like like right now you guys are in Houston,
it's a it sucks.

Speaker 8 (01:25:08):
Yeah, what's the status? I think I had heard that
Texas was legitimately running out of ICU beds.

Speaker 4 (01:25:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:25:16):
I mean, we tried to ship out a critical patient
the other night and couldn't get a hospital that could
take him in Houston. We tried to lie fight him
out because we didn't have a specialist for it and
could not find a hospital.

Speaker 6 (01:25:27):
It's tragic. It's tragic, my god.

Speaker 8 (01:25:30):
And people need to hear from people like you on
the front lines because I think a lot of people,
you know, as we've talked about on the show, Donald
and I lost a friend and uh, and I think
people like you who are on the front lines, people
like us who've lost a loved one, we're seeing him.
And Dan was explaining something on the show. I thought
that was really really landing with me that unless you're

(01:25:51):
on the front lines and the seeing it, you can
kind of live in this sort of dream world where
you you know, you're just you know, obviously, I know
people are suffering, they're not working and the kids are
in school, but it cannot it's a little bit out
of sight, out of mind, whereas someone like you who's
seeing this every single day, it must be just very
very traumatic for you.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
We also see what COVID does to people too, what
and and and and a lot of people that's something
that Americans don't see. We don't see the uh, what's
what's left up people after COVID has ravaged their bodies
and uh and and you know, rect habit rectavic on

(01:26:30):
their organs and stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:26:32):
So, uh, it's just a it's a slide in the
face when we're risking our lives and then people are
on here saying.

Speaker 16 (01:26:38):
It's a hoax or that it's a.

Speaker 7 (01:26:42):
It's just frustrating because we don't have any reason to
lie about it, right, I know, I know.

Speaker 8 (01:26:46):
By the way we see that. But we see that.
I see even in our comments on on Instagram. I
won't know I you saw this. Donald, People were like
enough of the mask talk. You're becoming like every other show.
And I want to like throw my fucking phone at
the wall because I've is like our friend just died.
So there's gonna be some COVID talk wear a fucking mask, right,
But anyway, we thank you for for I just think

(01:27:10):
there's nothing more noble than being a nurse. And there's
extra cherry on top for doing it in the er
because the things you must see.

Speaker 7 (01:27:20):
And I want to thank y'all real quick for the
video that y'all did with Neil Patrick Harris thanking all
the healthcare workers. It did not get enough props, but
it really meant something.

Speaker 8 (01:27:28):
Oh, thank you. So let's switch to something more like
where our main mission is to make people gig a
little bit. Do you have any questions for for us
about scrubs or anything could be about the flash? I
don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:27:42):
My first question is what's the craziest thing A fan
has asked, yoell.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
Oh my gosh, have you ever signed anyone? And then
they you saw them again and they were like, I
turned your signature into a tattoo.

Speaker 8 (01:27:51):
Yes, I've had that, and.

Speaker 18 (01:27:54):
People get tattoos of you?

Speaker 7 (01:27:55):
Is that weird?

Speaker 18 (01:27:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:27:56):
I was talking about this yesterday. There's some really weird
tattoos of me out there. And also I actually liked
the ones. Some people have tattooed lines from Garden State
that were meaningful to them. A film I wrote, so
I that I think is really cool because my something
I came up with was meant enough to them to
put on their body as a as a as whatever

(01:28:19):
a mantra if you will. But what I've seen, like
like the weirdest faces I've made on Scrubs where I'm like,
you know, like screaming out of fear, like actually in
this episode with Tom where I'm like screaming out of fear,
And I've seen that on like someone's thigh. Donald, I
saw a tattoo of you that as church that looked
so dumbing like you.

Speaker 4 (01:28:38):
It looked nothing like me. It looked like Charles Barkley.
You're on my back and it looked like Charles literally
Now you know, as a kid, I was a big
fan of Charles Barklay. But it didn't look anything like me.
It looked literally like Charles Barkley.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:28:55):
The weirdest thing that's ever happened to me. I get
a lot of people asking for it to eagle.

Speaker 8 (01:29:00):
Yes, that happens to you a lot because they think
you're very strong and they don't.

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
Know I can hold a lot of people up there.

Speaker 8 (01:29:06):
Yeah, but it's it's Donald. You do let a lot
more people mount you than I would ever.

Speaker 4 (01:29:14):
Listen. If you are brave enough to ask me, I
will most likely oblige now that.

Speaker 16 (01:29:22):
You shouldn't, he said, most likely fine print That being
said that.

Speaker 8 (01:29:29):
The fine print, Tom is like you must have been
under a certain amount of weight before trying to please
install permisson. Don't do it in front of his children
or his wife will bitch slap you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:41):
Well, the fine print is the fine print truly is
like it has to be a special occasion. It can't
just be out of nowhere, like you walk down the
street and like, let's eagle and that's not gonna happen.
It has to be you know, it has to be
something like if I'm at a conference.

Speaker 8 (01:29:57):
And it's you know what I mean, and they got
to catch you when you're woozy.

Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
So that's the one thing that that's the one thing
that that's pretty weird is that being asked to eagle.
It's like, really want to jump on my back? You
feel that comfortable right now to walk up to me,
ask me to give you an ask and ask me
to give you a piggyback ride?

Speaker 8 (01:30:17):
Tom? Have you ever had a weird fan moments? I
bet some of your young Flash fans have asked for
something odd.

Speaker 6 (01:30:22):
I think just what you were saying earlier, I think
it really tests your metal as an actor when somebody
suddenly unveils a tattoo of you on them, because you know,
I think the reaction they're looking for is like, oh
that's great, wow, you know, but really your reaction is
ah right, yeah, you know, and you really got to

(01:30:45):
you got to try and cover that as best you
can because they've got, you know, a permanent ink on their.

Speaker 8 (01:30:50):
Body read it. I'm just war of course you you're.

Speaker 6 (01:30:56):
Naturally assumed they're going to regret it.

Speaker 16 (01:30:58):
You think the next day.

Speaker 6 (01:30:59):
You don't think you're gonna end up seeing it ever,
But yeah, of course it's going to be a massive regret.

Speaker 8 (01:31:04):
Well, we talked before you came on to about how
I'm gonna get Donald on my face, just like Joel Joel.
Joel reminded us that I should not attempt to shade
it in at all, because.

Speaker 16 (01:31:18):
Uh huh, I listened. I listened to your episode.

Speaker 8 (01:31:20):
Yeah listen.

Speaker 6 (01:31:21):
Of course you guys were very well.

Speaker 8 (01:31:24):
Joelle just came on in a moment of nervousness being
like guys, guys, here's.

Speaker 6 (01:31:30):
The voice, here's the voice of reason.

Speaker 8 (01:31:32):
Please listen to the voice of I assure Joel that
would be solely an outline of his beautiful face.

Speaker 7 (01:31:38):
How many people have sent you in apple teini in
the bar?

Speaker 8 (01:31:42):
Oh, that's a very good question. That's happened a bunch
I got and sent a lot of apple teini's. They don't,
I don't you don't like apple, Just be honest, it's
very sweet. It's sugar, I don't. I mean, I understand
it if you're if you're young, or if you're if
you're out for a night and you want to have
a funny cocktail. But I just think that if you
shouldn't get drunk on them because they are so filled.

Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
With sugar headache the next day.

Speaker 8 (01:32:05):
I'm one of the owners of a restaurant in New
York that I'll give a plug to now called the
Mermaid Oyster Bar and seventy seventy nine McDougall if you'd
like to check it out when the world reopens.

Speaker 4 (01:32:18):
But do they serve oysters at this oyster Yes, they have.

Speaker 8 (01:32:21):
The sixteen different types of oysters. Wow, I love that
you just said. Do they serve oysters at this oyster bar.

Speaker 16 (01:32:28):
He was trying to trying to see if it was.

Speaker 8 (01:32:31):
No good, he'd be a good friend, and trying to
tell us more about this. So you probably want to
know about our lobster roll.

Speaker 4 (01:32:38):
Donald, Do you have a lobster roll?

Speaker 13 (01:32:40):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:32:40):
We have lobster roll in Manhattan, and I'll tell you
that right now.

Speaker 4 (01:32:43):
Really.

Speaker 8 (01:32:44):
Yeah, And my point was is that the owner told
me that. He's like, do you have an idea why
people keep coming in and ordering Apple teenies?

Speaker 16 (01:32:52):
That's funny?

Speaker 8 (01:32:53):
And he's like, I was like, I don't know, but
can you make them? He's like, no, we're not making
apple tinis, but just people. Just tell your fans to
stop ordering.

Speaker 4 (01:32:59):
Out when we were young and they were tasty, though,
I don't know. Do you like them?

Speaker 16 (01:33:07):
Christina?

Speaker 7 (01:33:08):
A little sweep for me?

Speaker 8 (01:33:10):
Do you have another question for us? Christina?

Speaker 7 (01:33:13):
So Scrubs one, what is your most memorable scene that
you filmed?

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (01:33:17):
Heavy question, good question.

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (01:33:21):
Well Tom can go first because he's the guest. He's
got less to think about it because he's only did
six or so episodes.

Speaker 16 (01:33:27):
It's easy.

Speaker 6 (01:33:28):
It was just, you know, I loved almost every scene
we did for comedy. There was one where the three
of us were.

Speaker 4 (01:33:35):
Part buddies where we did the farts.

Speaker 16 (01:33:38):
Yeah, we were goofing.

Speaker 6 (01:33:38):
Around the thing and that we had to we were
eating breakfast and then we had to go. I had
to go to the bathroom and it just became this
long running I'll be in there for one minute, two minutes,
five minutes, ten minutes, one minute, and then the other
one was just the John Ritter stuff. To have been
like a part of that with with you guys, was
you know it was? It was meaningful. Certainly the bathtubs.

(01:34:00):
The bathtub scene was a little less fun than you
might expect. At one point, John c Riley is like,
by now you're sitting in what a bounts to probably
eighty percent of your own urine, And I.

Speaker 16 (01:34:13):
Think that was probably closer to the truth. So less fun.

Speaker 6 (01:34:15):
But at the same time, you know, it's one thing
that I hear a lot, you know about the Captain
bubble Beard or whatever the heck it was called. Anyway,
you guys, that's enough. Now you've had enough time. I've stalled,
well enough, I feel, and now you guys have the
tarmac ready talk about your best shows.

Speaker 8 (01:34:31):
We answered something similar to this recently but I wonder
if it's the same answer for you. Donald, go ahead,
well the.

Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
Star Wars, Oh yeah, you're right. Also getting the opportunity
to do an Indiana Jones situation in someone's colon, it
was a lot of fun, right, doing the whole opening
to Raders of the Lost Dark in side of someone's colony.

Speaker 5 (01:34:54):
Fun.

Speaker 4 (01:34:56):
And then, to be honest with you, one of my
favorite scenes, it's a song but Zach and I singing
everything comes down to Pooh. Still to this day is
one of my like I watched that with the smile,
and I can't watch a lot of the things that
I do, but that's one thing that I've done where

(01:35:16):
I'm like that was. That was fucking a great time
shooting that.

Speaker 8 (01:35:20):
Yeah. One of my favorite times was repelling across the
fake city street on the Universal back lot on the
episode where Donald and I go on a quest to
find Molly, Heather Graham's character, and we repel across the
street and then nail the wall and I fall into
a bunch of garbage and then I get up and
she looks at me, and I act like I'm surprised

(01:35:42):
to see her, and I go Molly.

Speaker 6 (01:35:45):
Doing here?

Speaker 8 (01:35:46):
That was just the most fun because.

Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
You know, do you remember how you got the to
repel across.

Speaker 8 (01:35:51):
The rope which I pulled your shirt off of you.

Speaker 4 (01:35:53):
No, you pulled my gown off of me. Then I
have a gown on it or it wasn't a shirt.

Speaker 8 (01:35:59):
Yeah, yeah, And I go and I go, yeah, I
pull it off and you gasp, and then you're shirtless.
And then I turn it. I turn I turned into
a thing to repel across the street. And then and
then I go Molly, and she goes, what are you
doing here? And then all of a sudden, you just
see Donald in the background drop down in the frame naked.

(01:36:23):
So that was just so fun because you know, we
didn't always Yeah, as I've said before on the podcast,
that episode was like so epic, we didn't always do
episodes that were that big. And there we were like
taking over the Universal backlot to do that scene, and
I was directing and and it was just funny. I
remember just laughing my ass off that night. All right, well,

(01:36:43):
we got to go because our show's going so incredibly long.
But Christina, thank you, and in all sincerity, thank you
so much for what you do and for being on
the front lines for us.

Speaker 7 (01:36:53):
Can I just see y'all to give a quick shout
out to my best friends that are super jealous right
now of course, Preston and Nikki.

Speaker 4 (01:37:00):
Yo, Preston, Nikki, it's down a faison.

Speaker 8 (01:37:04):
And I'm Zach Braff and Zachroft and tell me, sorry,
what's happening y'all? What's happening y'all? What's happening? By pressent
and Nikki and bye, Christina, Thank you so much, thank you, Christina.

(01:37:25):
Now listen, it's not beneath us. It scrubs to do
a fart joke every now and then.

Speaker 4 (01:37:29):
And uh and this your family loves to fart. Dorians
love to fart, dude, It's true.

Speaker 8 (01:37:35):
Oh, by the way, we were, we were, we were.
We were lucky enough to have the late John Ritter
do a fart joke on on the show before he
passed away. And now we have the great Tom Cavanaugh
honoring us with a fart joke. We we sprinkled him around.

Speaker 16 (01:37:48):
That sprinkle him around, good analogy. Your reaction is tremendous.

Speaker 6 (01:37:54):
It's like it's everywhere. It's a man who can't escape.

Speaker 8 (01:37:59):
It's so horrible, though, when when someone is flatulent in
a car and you don't have control of the window.
Isn't it just a horrible, horrible moment of life.

Speaker 6 (01:38:08):
I think an airplane is worse, but yes, airplane. Everybody's
staring straight ahead, and the moment.

Speaker 8 (01:38:19):
On a plane where you're like, you don't want anyone
to think it's you to react, you have to go, oh, geez.
I always put my t shirt over my nose so
people know, like, oh, he's reacting. It's clearly not him, right.

Speaker 4 (01:38:31):
It's just like when you go into the bathroom after
somebody took a ship and on the airplane, and then
you've got to come out and face all the people.
I'm sure we've talked about it.

Speaker 6 (01:38:40):
We have.

Speaker 8 (01:38:41):
We talked about that horrible thing. And especially when you're
in the public eye, you don't want someone to be like, dude,
I was on a plane and Tom Cavanaugh crossed the
bathroom and meanwhile you're thinking, like, no, mother effort, that
was the guy before me.

Speaker 6 (01:38:55):
I don't know. I don't know if i'd be that upset,
but okay, yeah, I.

Speaker 8 (01:38:59):
Have an anxiety about when I go into a bathroom
and it's been just rocked, and then I come out
and I'm like, I didn't do that. That was someone
before me.

Speaker 4 (01:39:08):
I should do something an anxiety about public restrooms? Period?

Speaker 8 (01:39:11):
Dude, do you paper? You put toilet paper down on
the seat?

Speaker 4 (01:39:14):
Listen, man, we could go to the movies the whole family.
Back when going to the movies was a thing. We'd
be at the movie theater if I and the movie
could be five minutes away from starting. If I feel
even the slightest bit of a bubble in my guts,
We're going home. Oh really, I'm not shitting at.

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
A movie theater.

Speaker 8 (01:39:32):
Your poor kids, what do they do?

Speaker 4 (01:39:34):
They cry on the way home.

Speaker 8 (01:39:37):
That's you're kids home because you had to poop.

Speaker 4 (01:39:39):
Listen. I remember I remember one time going to a
club and getting to the club and being at the
club and uh, you know, about to dance and it
was lit that night, and feeling a bubble in my
guts and being like, you know what, I'm going home.

Speaker 6 (01:39:54):
Oh.

Speaker 8 (01:39:55):
At restaurants, so you never pull, you never pull in public.

Speaker 4 (01:39:59):
I try my hardest not to poo in public. I
have a phobia of it. It's uh, I don't know, man.

Speaker 6 (01:40:06):
Do you keep your outings to a concentric circle where
you can make the getaway if you have to.

Speaker 4 (01:40:10):
No, there's been times where I was like, yo, I
gotta do something. We gotta do something. Do you have friends.
It's just something about a public a public restroom is I.

Speaker 8 (01:40:19):
Used to have that. For some reason, I can't it.
When I was a kid, I had it. I got
over it. But one thing I can't do is if
it were in the men's room and there's and there's
a line of stalls, I cannot poo if someone else
is in the stall, I have to wait until the
stalls are empty. I can't hear it next like me,
I just can't wait to hear that. But also I

(01:40:40):
can't sit next to the person and they're like farting
and you hear them like E, I can't. It's too
uncomfortable for me.

Speaker 6 (01:41:00):
You got a hand it to them for their effort.

Speaker 4 (01:41:01):
You know, they really have to go.

Speaker 11 (01:41:03):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:41:04):
I don't want to be that guy. Man, I've been.
I've been in the bathroom where another man did that.
And I was a kid. I was very young, and
it was me and we were doing a commercial. It
was a basketball commercial. What yeah, it was a basketball commercial.

Speaker 16 (01:41:17):
Already jealous, I know we should.

Speaker 4 (01:41:18):
Talk about basketball. You have to come back on because
we need to talk about our NBA Entertainment League days
and all that stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:41:24):
Tom, Tom, will you already since we since you're.

Speaker 16 (01:41:30):
Joe, you heard this, Dan, you heard this right.

Speaker 6 (01:41:32):
So I was invited.

Speaker 16 (01:41:34):
So that's what that's what those are going to be.

Speaker 8 (01:41:36):
Now one pound, now you'll be back, be back.

Speaker 4 (01:41:40):
But we were filming a basketball commercial and I was
very young and one, but I wasn't young enough where
my parents had to be there. But there was one
kid who was very young and his dad had to
be there, and his dad would play basket. We were
playing like we were all doing this you know, uh
uh the commercial. So we were all playing like full
courts on other basketball courts and we would play with

(01:42:01):
his dad too. And I remember going to the bathroom,
me and a bunch of other dudes. We were going
to take a leak and the dad was in the
bathroom and was having a real hard time pooping. Like
the type of ship like the like the type of
stuff was like.

Speaker 18 (01:42:17):
Oh god, damn.

Speaker 4 (01:42:21):
Ship.

Speaker 8 (01:42:22):
Why why when someone yells.

Speaker 4 (01:42:25):
Why the corn, that's the corn. That's the corn.

Speaker 8 (01:42:35):
Okay, you don't corn people are might be eating when
they listen to.

Speaker 4 (01:42:38):
This Okay, we'll cut that out. We'll cut out the corn.

Speaker 8 (01:42:40):
No, I want to leave it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
I like, okay, all right. Anyway, My point is, I
remember when he came out of the bathroom, the shame
on his poor son's face because we were like, yo,
your dad's and they're blowing it up. And I think
that's where my phobia comes from. I don't want to
be that guy.

Speaker 8 (01:42:57):
When I was a kid, my mom took me into
the stall with her. You know, I was of an
age where she was obviously not leaving me alone, and
a woman was really farting a lot as she was
going pooh. And then we came out to the sinks
and I apparently turned to the woman and pointed and went, Mom,
that's the lady who was farting. My mom says, like

(01:43:25):
to this day, that's the most embarrassing moment of her life.

Speaker 6 (01:43:28):
Goodness, all right.

Speaker 8 (01:43:32):
The gorilla, by the way, Donald, I literally looked. I
looked down at my notes and saw I thought that
was a really funny reveal.

Speaker 4 (01:43:40):
Yeah, I thought that was very You think Ken was
ever in the suit? Oh, I don't know. That's a
great question.

Speaker 16 (01:43:44):
That is a great question.

Speaker 4 (01:43:46):
Let's ask Bill that one.

Speaker 8 (01:43:49):
Let's ask Bill, because Bill, I'm sure you want to
say hi to the Tom Cavanaugh And you know, I
did notice some of the fans were missing you and
you're sabotaging our show by yelling the secret numbers? So Bill,
was Ken Jenkins ever in the gorilla suit? And also
say hi to Tom Kavanaugh? Bill, Hey, guys, how you doing?

Speaker 15 (01:44:13):
Question number Ken Jenkins in that gorilla suit? I seem
to recall is what I love about Ken, you know,
trying to be respectful of actors. I was like, of course, Ken,
if you want to be the guy in the suit,
you know, we and I think he cut me off
and said, Bill, if it's not gonna you're not gonna
see me, I don't care if I'm ever in that grocer.

(01:44:36):
So I do not think Ken Jenkins was.

Speaker 8 (01:44:37):
Ever in that thing?

Speaker 18 (01:44:39):
Pretty sure?

Speaker 17 (01:44:41):
Uh?

Speaker 18 (01:44:41):
And I respect him more for it.

Speaker 15 (01:44:43):
Also got to say, man, uh, not only one of
my favorite guest stars on the show, but an all
time good buddy Tom Kavanaugh.

Speaker 18 (01:44:51):
Hello, sir, Oh hi Tommy?

Speaker 4 (01:44:53):
How you doing?

Speaker 16 (01:44:53):
Man?

Speaker 15 (01:44:54):
I don't mean to steal this podcast, but it has
been way too long since we've seen each other. It's
been a it's got to be at least like for
like five or six or seven.

Speaker 4 (01:45:04):
Or eight months.

Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
Eight.

Speaker 17 (01:45:05):
No, thank you, Jay, turn it down season two, Damn
get a new you need a new trick.

Speaker 8 (01:45:17):
Trying to hijack our show. You know, speaking of tricks,
the janitor never does his trick.

Speaker 4 (01:45:23):
I was I was asking.

Speaker 8 (01:45:24):
I was about to ask that it's a writing it's
a writing flow of Bill. Sorry, what was that about?
Since you just tried to hijack our show by saying
the numbers, I will tell you, even though now you
can't reply that, uh, you're fucking up or Tim Oberd,
Tim Over, Tim Hoover, fucked up, somebody who fucked up.
Why do you lay in that the janitor's going to
do a trick and he never does. I think it's

(01:45:47):
a mislead for him being in the gorilla suit, but
but he's he's like twice Ken's height, so that doesn't
really work. I'm just saying, do you want to talk
about how great it was to have Tom Cavanaugh on
the podcast?

Speaker 4 (01:45:58):
Dude, you have to come back. You already said you will.

Speaker 6 (01:46:01):
I'm going to force your hand. That was a classic
misplay on your two guys parts. Here, you guys you
guys like, Hey, Tom, come back. He's like, he's obsessive.
Joelle is gonna be.

Speaker 16 (01:46:10):
Like he all he does is ad. He's like, uh, please,
he's just come back, come back? Can I come back?

Speaker 4 (01:46:17):
Dude?

Speaker 8 (01:46:17):
Love me.

Speaker 4 (01:46:18):
We have some stories.

Speaker 8 (01:46:20):
You and I.

Speaker 4 (01:46:21):
We've played a lot of basketball together. And so the
next time you're on the next episode about.

Speaker 8 (01:46:24):
That, you guys will talk sports ball.

Speaker 6 (01:46:26):
Yeah, you can go grab a tea and we'll like,
we'll talk hoops and then you can come back ten
minutes later come back.

Speaker 8 (01:46:30):
I will just put on Dear Evan Hanson and listen
the whole time, and you guys will wave on the
zoom call when it's O perfect. No, seriously, man, we
love you. You're great.

Speaker 6 (01:46:41):
I'm so happy to be a part of this. Thank
you guys for having me on.

Speaker 8 (01:46:44):
I mean great, Thank you, Thank you, and thank you
to Daniel and Joel and uh and Donald do you
want to leave us in this song? I love you
Donald Faison, I love you Zach Braff and we love
you listeners. Thank you for listening and for being amazing,
and subscribe to this and and what else. Email Joel A.
Scrubs iHeart at gmail dot com and that's it.

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