10 Players Who Could MAKE Your Fantasy Football Season | Breakouts to BUY (Ep. 260) - FantasyPros Dynasty Football Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Football Podcast.
I'm Ryan Warmley, joined as always by Scott Bogman and
by Pat fitz Morris Fellas. We are talking some breakouts
to buy. We have had some negative episodes in terms
of guys that are busts or that we are avoiding
throughout the summer. This is a positive one. We have
more fun with the positivity some guys that we are

(00:24):
looking to target. You can you can kind of view
this through the prism of not only guys to buy
in trades, but if you're in a startup draft, a
guy you maybe want to consider trading up for and
be aggressive take around early. Just guys that we think
are going to break out this year, whose values are
going to take leaps forward between now and this time
next year. Quick reminder for everybody. All of our twenty
twenty five consensus rankings and tiers can be found at

(00:45):
fantasypros dot com slash rankings. You can navigate to the
Dynasty rankings from there as well. Before we dive into
our player picks, and we're going to each pick a
player at each position and then kind of wrap with
our main overall number one guy, just a quick conversation
on I know kind of why we're looking at breakouts.
It might seem inherently obvious of hey, you want guys
who are going to add value, but breakouts can really

(01:07):
like that is what wins year league. Right. It's not
getting the you know, from the redraft perspective, it's not
getting the you know, the first round or right, you
just want to not miss on that. It's hitting on
those guys who really explode. And it's similar with Dynasty.
If you hit on a guy who you know, takes
a really leap forward, all of a sudden, your roster
looks a lot different and you're a contender for years
if you hit on the right guy. So if it's
when you think about breakouts in Dynasty specifically, what is

(01:30):
it that you're looking for and when how aggressively are
you trying to find these guys and identify them.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Cheap guys with plausible upside And the price is a
big thing, Like we want the breakouts because we want
to buy into them cheaply and have guys who can
deliver us like surplus value because we acquired them so cheaply.
And that's why I kind of avoided rookies with this list,
and I know Bogs has a few rookies and that's fine,

(01:55):
And obviously rookies are prime breakout candidates, and there are
a lot of people who haven't had the rookie drafts yet.
I know some leagues save them for August. So it's
good that he has some rookies. But I'm focusing on
like cheap discounted veterans who I think could still smash Bogman.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, I mean, I think the whole point of buying
low is you know, it's just like trading stocks, you
know what I mean. It's you're getting in cheap on
a player and you're writing him to the top. And
that's exactly what you need to do in Dynasty, and
that is that is a good thing about being a
little negative on some of these players. I know I've
gotten a couple of comments, why is Bogging so negative

(02:33):
on these guys? I see negativity in every player. I
also see positivity in every player. And I like this
type of show, like you said, Worm, because we get
to talk about, you know, when you talk about the
gray area or the what ifs on every single player,
what if this happens, what if that happens, you get
to see the positive side, the upside, the ceiling of
some of these players.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
And you know, so I do have rookies here.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
I was trying to avoid rookies, but I feel like,
you know, a lot of the rookies are the guys
that you're gonna buy now as cheap as that you can,
and they're only going to ascend.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
So those are the type of rookies that I have
on my list.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Do you guys have before you jump into your picks
examples of guys you have hit on in your real
dynasty leagues in the past as breakouts, whether it's like
a rookie who was undervalued or a veteran who you know,
in year three, four or five you know even later
had that breakout. As anybody that comes to mind for you,
Bogman that you have hit on in the past.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I'm Mahomes, you know, being able to snap up Mahomes
in a super flex league where he didn't play at
all the first year my team wasn't very good. I
traded like a cheap pick for him, maybe a player
on top, and I get one of the best quarterbacks
in the league for years and years. So that's That's
the one that like just leaps off the top of

(03:46):
my head. Is a guy that didn't play much his
first year, didn't see many opportunities. A team with a
crammed roster just needed space, They need another option at
running back or whatever it was. I don't remember what
it was, honestly, So you know, those are the type
of deals you need to be making if you're a
bottom feeder.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Fits some examples for you, James Robinson, remember him. He
had a couple of real deep sleeper for the Jaguars
and wound up having one real good season as a
running back another maybe semi productive season debo as a
guy who not like Deebo, had a bad rookie season
at all. But I got him on the cheap and

(04:24):
he wound up maybe he only had one like real
smash season, but at the price at which I acquired him,
he definitely turned a profit for me.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Let's stup into our positional picks here. Year, we're going
to do a quarterback, then receiver, then running back, then
tight end. So starting with the signal caller fits, who
is your quarterback breakout to buy in Dynasty.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
It's Anthony Richardson And I know some people are going
to be rolling their eyes on that one, but look,
we human beings are an impatient species, and people who
play fantasy football probably even more impatient than the average humans.
Like there are just certain prospects who come into the
NFL and during the pre draft process all the dynasty

(05:07):
people look at that sort of prospect and say, yeah,
he could really turn into something, but he's pretty raw.
It's going to take time. And then the raw player
gets his first NFL exposure and predictably it doesn't go
very well, and most dynasty people are repulsed. He sucks,
I'm out. And we saw a prime example this with
Malik Willis a few years ago. Like athletic quarterback, really

(05:30):
dangerous as a runner, but somewhat limited with his college experience,
and not a very polished passer, but enough arm strength
to give him legit NFL potential. Well, Malik Willis made
a few starts as a rookie and predictably things did
not go very well. Looked very raw, and Willis barely
played in his second year. The Titans gave up on him,

(05:51):
traded him to the Packers for a seventh round pick.
Then Jordan Love got hurt in the Packers season opener.
Last year, Malik Willis made two starts. The Packers won
both games. Willis actually looked pretty good, mostly as a runner,
but in those two starts he completed seventy five point
eight percent of his throws and averaged nine point eight
yards per attempt and had two touchdowns and no interceptions. Yeah,

(06:12):
small sample size. And oh, by the way, he had
one hundred and fourteen rushing yards and a touchdown in
those two games. So Anthony Richardson's prospect profile was pretty
similar to that of Malik Willis, except for two things.
Richardson hadn't even better athletic profile than Willis bigger, faster,
stronger arm. And Richardson had even less college experience than Willis,

(06:37):
just one year as a college starter with thirteen total
starts at Florida. Oh and Malik Willis was a third
round pick in Anthony Richardson was the fourth overall pick
of the draft. Then last year, just after a pretty
encouraging well the rookie season for Richardson four starts, left
one game early with a concussion. Then there was the
season ending shoulder injury in game four during those four games,

(07:01):
we saw some promise, four touchdown runs, some good rushing yardage,
three TD passes, semi respectable completion percentage last year total
disaster eleven starts, forty seven point seven percent completion rate,
eight touchdowns, twelve interceptions, although he did run for four
hundred and ninety nine yards and six touchdowns in those

(07:21):
eleven games, a reminder of what he can give us
as a runner.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Richardson average twelve point two intended air yards per tempt
last year according to Pro Football Reference. That's just a
freakishly big number, like he was big game hunting with
his throws all year, and it partially explains the low
completion percentage. I don't know. By the time we get
to week one, Richardson will have had three training camps
and fifteen NFL starts under his belt, and no question

(07:50):
we've reached a point of reckoning with him. If he
doesn't get it done this year, it's reasonable for people
to walk away. But look, Colt's head coach Shane Steichen, like,
this is still the guy who helped Justin Herbert and
Jalen Hurts develop. It happened pretty quickly with those two.
It's taken a little more time with Richardson. I am
urging patients, like sometimes player development is kind of a

(08:13):
long and winding road, and like, just look at Richardson's teammate,
Bernard Raymond, the Colts left tackle. The dude is from Austria,
spent his junior year of high school in America as
an exchange student and fell in love with football. Played
college ball at Central Michigan. Started as a tight end,
was a tight end for two years. First year's alignment

(08:35):
was the COVID year, so there were like five or
six games for him. Basically had one year as a
college offensive lineman, but the Colts drafted him in the
third round strictly on physical traits. He's gotten better and
better every year, and he just signed a contract that's
going to pay him twenty five million dollars a season.
So I don't know. Richardson isn't a dumb guy. Boggs.
You and I had Matt Waldman on one of our

(08:56):
rookie preview shows there. Richardson came out. Waldman loved him.
He had talked to a former NFL position coach who
had worked with Richardson. I can't remember the coach's name,
but he had told Waldmen that Richardson was really sharp
with all the film room and whiteboard stuff, and that
you could see it on the field with the way
look off safeties and manipulate defenders with his eyes. I

(09:18):
just think people are waving the white flag on him
too soon, and he is cheap man like on the
Fantasy pros. Dynasty trade value charts a great tool for
all you Dynasty people. By the way, we have Richardson's
value on par with DeAndre Swift and Dalton Kincaid, and
Richardson's upside is so much greater than those dudes if

(09:38):
things click for him this year, and I don't think
it's unreasonable to think they could click now that he's
gotten some playing experience. If you buy him now in Dynasty,
you could look like a freaking genius to your league
mates and change the entire trajectory of your Dynasty team.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
All right, Bogman, let's talk for a bit and give
a fifth chance to catch his breath after all that.
Ah No, I mean, Richardson's a really fascinating kind of
character in this Dynasty landscape because of the obvious upside
if it clicks and the obvious downside that we have
seen the last couple of years in terms of injury
and inaccuracy. I guess for me, Bogman, I feel like

(10:18):
your stance on Richardson comes down to price. I think
it's I think it's an obvious like this is a
guy worth taking a swing on. It's just a question
of are you taking a flyer on him or are
you like really paying up to assume that risk but
also take on some of that possible reward. I want
to get your opinion first, and then I'm gonna bring

(10:39):
up there was a poll that Fits put out on
Twitter earlier today asking if people are still out or
in or out on Richardson, and I'll kind of share
those results. But first, Bagman, I want to hear what
you think.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, I mean, I'm so glad I didn't pick Richardson
for this position here because I feel like I've been
talking about him a little bit too much. I wanted
to ship my focus to somebody else. On glad Fits
he picked up the tor chair and talked about a
rich a little bit. I mean, I think you know
the thing that I've said from the jump this offseason
is if you're Shane psych In. If you're you know,

(11:11):
Ballard with the Colts here, you made the selection of Richardson,
you look like idiots. If Daniel Jones is the starter,
I think everything they've done this offseason has been to
push a Rich, to make him feel good. You know, Oh,
Daniel Jones is the leader of this job. Well, a
Rich has been banged up, and then a Rich comes back. Well,

(11:32):
it's kind of becoming. It's pulling even now, they're saying.
And then a Rich is going to pass him once
the preseason starts, and then he's just I think he's
gonna start week one to be the start of the
whole year. So I think he's a perfect buy right now.
And they have There are not many quarterbacks that are
set up for success more than whoever is the quarterback
of the Colts. Look at all these weapons you have warned.

(11:53):
You have downs, you have Pittman, Pierce and ad and
I Mitchell. You're deep at wide receiver, your flush at
tight end. Now you have Gidtins behind jt if he
does go down again. There are weapons and weapons and
weapons on this offense, and all you have to do
is be somewhat proficient at throwing a forward pass to
unlock a lot of points here for a rich So

(12:15):
if he could just improve twenty five percent this year
and be bottom third of the NFL instead of unwatchable,
then he's gonna put up so many points. So this
is this is a perfect type of selection for this show.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Fit.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
I don't know if you've looked at the results of
the poll you put on Twitter, but what were your
expectations for the answer to the po And by the way,
the poll was don't care if you look at this
from a fantasy angle or pure football angle, but on
Anthony Richardson, are you in or are you out? And
when you put this out there, I'm curious if you
had an expectation of what you thought those percentages would
look like.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
I guessed it was going to be about fifty five
percent out and about forty five percent in.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
It is the exact opposite of that. It's forty five
percent out, fifty five percent in. It's like four point
four soon But it's basically almost exactly the reverse of that.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
But's got smart followers, so.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
I mean, it's it's close to fifty to fifty right.
There's a lot of people who are out but there's
also you know a lot of people who are.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
In I think you know a Rich starting, Like if
Jalen Milroe has to start this year, it's the same level, right,
Like a Rich would not have started his rookie season
and he was not good enough last year. Milroe being
thrown to the Wolves this year would be the same example.
The same thing with Malik, like Fitzsi's example and his

(13:32):
breakdown there. I mean, sometimes it's just too early and
we expect too much of these guys, and I think
that was the case with a Rich.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
We can move on from richardson. But the last point
that I want to make on it, to wrap things up,
is that I think for me personally, I'm not saying
that I'm out, but when I am leaning in that direction,
I think it is more because of the injury stuff
than it is because of the inaccuracy and the inability
to develop. I believe in Shane Steichen. I believe talented
players can get better and more accurate. I mean he's

(14:00):
not going to take like a Josh Allen type leap.
I don't think in terms of inaccuracy to accurate, but
like I think he can get better. I worry that
because so much of the special upside is in the
legs and the running, that if he ever dials that
back because he barely played, because he keeps getting hurt,
That's what worries me more is that he's unable to

(14:21):
stay healthy while using the skill set that makes him
so valuable in Fantasy and Dynasty, So that that would
be more of my concern than the actual development in
his trajectory just simply as a passer.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, it would be nice if he had the Lamar
Jackson ability to avoid the boy hits.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Yes, yes, nobody has that except yeah, he's.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Very good at that. Boban. Let's go to your quarterback here.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I'm gonna talk about cam mord again. Cam Ward is
ECR right now, is twenty one in Dynasty. I've been
eighteen and look, no one is challenging cam Ward at all.
Fifteen and I were on a show a couple maybe
last week, a couple weeks ago where we were talking
about maybe some rookies that are being overlooked and.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Cam Ward at one one is being overlooked.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
There was an article on the Athletic I think just
the other day about how this is you would think
this is Trayvon Walker as a one to one pick.
The way that he's been covered in the media. Right
everyone's talking about Shador Sanders, nobody's talking about cam Ward.
Cam Warden is showing up a practice at five point
thirty every single day. They've had to kick him out
of the building some nights. He is obsessed with greatness here.

(15:27):
I'm super excited to see what he has. And you know,
if you don't like that his teammates are around him,
he's already won over the locker room. The fact that
Will Levis is gone, he's out for the season, he
had shoulder surgery. Brandon Allen is now cam Ward's backup,
so he's definitely getting the start. From the beginning, this
guy did an incarnate word. He improved Washington State. Then

(15:50):
he went to Miami and was outstanding and led the
country in a lot of passing metrics, you know, passing
touchdowns tenth and completion percentage second, pass yards fourth and
big time throw percentage second, deep ball pass grade ninth
and completion ANDed justic completion percentage fourth and deep ball
completions and deep ball touchdowns.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Like he is, he is ready to go.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
He is tailor made for this offense, and he has
rushing upside he hasn't needed to unlock yet because of
the play of some of the players around him, So
he has there's made on the bone for him to
grow as a rusher. And he's already a really good passer.
And you know, seeing him jump from incarnate word to

(16:33):
the talent that he had at Washington State and then
to go to Miami and to make a guy like
Ristreppo who is undrafted look like a second or third
rounder for a big chunk of the year.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Elia Royal had never been heard.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Of before cam Ward came in, right like, he puts
some of these guys on the map. I'm just I'm
a big, big cam Ward fan, and I think he's
kind of being overlooked because there wasn't a lot of
hype coming in. We kind of knew this pick of
the Titans was going to happen for months and months,
So there's not excitement. You should be excited about the
number one overall pick quarterback cam Ward. He is excellent

(17:07):
and I think he's being a little bit overlooked right now.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, Fitz, you were not the highest Onward in the
pregraft process. I am starting to kind of come around
though a bit on like what Bog was saying about, Like,
I do think like the hype is a little too
low considering he's the number one pick, and you know,
it feels like like I don't think he's ever going
to be Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson, but I think
he is better than he's being evaluated at right now,

(17:32):
both in terms of real life and in terms of fantasy.
I just think he's like I don't know that he's
like the best value on the board, but I think
he is undervalued right now.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
What do you think My concerns with Ward were a
little more related to real life than fantasy, because he
definitely has that stuntman DNA where he is like, yeah,
he wants to be Jackie Chan and do his own
stunts and fight twenty guys, and like, sometimes you want
to see him make less risky decisions. I would watch

(18:04):
him at Miami and like I would be yelling at
the TV for him to get the ball, Yes, get
rid of the ball, get rid of the ball, and
lord knows he's not going to be able to hold
it six seconds in the NFL. The way he didn't.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
College was like uh, because I wrote him up for
The Black Book, and I think within negatives was he
was like bottom three or four in time to throw,
like he just holds on that ball.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
He had a bunch of fumbles too.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Right, carries it around with one hand in the pocket.
Sometimes that's not good. But for fantasy, you want a
guy who's a risk take, like I've heard people talk
about Justin Jefferson, like, oh, he was even able to
put up good numbers with Nick Mullins. No, people can
put up good numbers with Nick Mullins because he will
take crazy chances downfield. But if you started Nick Mullens

(18:48):
over the course of a full season, he would throw
like seventy three interceptions. And that that is like cam
Ward is going to take chances downfield, and I think
he's going to, you know, collect passing yardage as a result,
and he's gonna run and there are gonna be some touchdowns.
So the thing is like, it's the long term viability.
Can he tamp down the turnovers in sacks enough that

(19:12):
a team looks at him as their long term guy
without question? This is our guy for the next eight
to ten years. So that's my question with him. Fantasy Yeah,
I absolutely think he's gonna put up numbers.

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(19:45):
go to the wide receivers here, Fitz, who do you
have for us?

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Keon Coleman. You know I've been a big fan since
he came out. He's a six foot three former college
basketball player with exceptional ball skills, and while he doesn't
have great straight line speed, it's good enough. After the
cat that Florida State had Keon Coleman returning punts, and
he was actually the third leading punk returner in FBS
in his final college season, we got a little taste

(20:09):
of Keon Coleman's big playability in his rookie year. He
only had twenty nine catches and missed a month with
a wrist injury, but Keon averaged nineteen point two yards
per catch and nine point eight yards per target. It's
sort of annoying that the Bills have this. Everyone eats
mantra on offense, where they like to play three different
running backs and two tight ends and five or six receivers.

(20:33):
But Keon Coleman was the thirty third overall pick of
the draft last year. Bills obviously saw something in him
that they like, so it stands to reason he's going
to get more snaps than some of the other receivers
on the roster as long as he's healthy and proves
he's worthy of that playing time. So I can't guarantee
a breakout season for Keon Coleman, but he's a physically
gifted receiver who was taken thirty third overall and catches

(20:56):
passes from Josh Allen. So yeah, that's a player I'm
willing to bet on.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Bog mean, you have also been in on Kean Coleman
from the beginning here.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
I mean, one of us had to say it right
like I I was, like, I think I've talked about
Kyon Coleman too much, so I need to take him
off my list. So again, glad fits he did. Yes,
this is this is our guy. We're dying on this hill.
Fitzy and I the same way. If he sucks, we're
both gonna get crap for it. If he's great, we
both get credit for he's Uh. It's I think this

(21:27):
is going to be the breakout season. We know, yes,
they do have they do have the everybody eats mantra,
and they do spread the ball round and all that,
But the cream rises to the top. And I think
Keyon Coleman is the most talented wide receiver in this room.
There's there's a lot of good targets here, though. I
just think that the injury, you know, Coleman being a
little bit of a weird dude in his rookie season,

(21:49):
I think it took a little bit for the Bills
to get used to him.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Mcdermot's notoriously tough on rookies. I'm I'm super excited to
see what Keyon Coleman has in the.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Bag this year.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
So because we both like, you know, we all like
Kean Coleman so much, what are we giving up to
get him? I'm looking at Dynasty trade value chart right now.
It looks like in terms of picks in a trade,
it would be something equivalent to like a mid second
in twenty twenty five. Does that sound about right to you? Guys?
Does that sound like too much or not enough? Given

(22:20):
how much you like them, either of you?

Speaker 4 (22:22):
That sounds exactly right to me.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
It does sound pretty good to me too, mid second
this year, Like.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Would you give him a first next year knowing that
we're down next year? No?

Speaker 3 (22:30):
No, okay, first, it's it's a bit much to give
up a first for a guy that didn't hit an.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
If you're a contender, you think it's gonna be a
late pick and a week class. Even in that scenario,
first too much, that's I don't.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
Hate it, No, no, no, no, this is this is good.
This is what we need.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yes, I think I think in that scenario it would
be more acceptable. But I think in most scenarios, I'm
probably not trading a first. I think a second is
acceptable because it's like, here we go, fize, would you
rather have Keon Coleman or Matthew Golden because he is
like a back end of the first guy right now
twenty twenty five, If that's what we're looking at, if
you'd rather have Coleman, you'd probably give up that late for.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, that's close. I mean, most people would rather have
Golden and he's got the first round draft caspital and
he hasn't he hasn't had a I think most people
would look at Kean's rookie season as a failure just
because there weren't a lot of catches. So I think
the price is always going to be highering a guy
like Golden who has yet to fail and as first
round draft capital. Oh and by the way, Kean's price

(23:28):
on our Dynasty trade value chart and Fantasy pros, I
believe it's the same as the price on Anthony Richardson
in super Flex.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Oh many rich.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah, the trade pick stuffs always really interesting because I
feel like teams this isn't always true, but in my
experienced teams that are projected to be in the middle
don't tend to trade as much. It's usually the obvious
contenders or the obvious rebuilders. So you have to again
this is just anecdotal to my experience, but I often
have to think about things in terms of like it
it's probably gonna be a late pick or an early pick,

(24:02):
not middle, and that then that gets tricky because if
you're a contender and you're trying to get a guy
a late second, isn't that appealing to most people? Whereas
a late first, like maybe that's more tenable. And then
if you're bad though, like early seconds fine, but in
early first clearly that's too much. So like like, I
try to think about things that like late versus early,

(24:23):
because I think the middle are sometimes harder to trade.
Like obviously, knowing in hindsight where we landed, you can
trade the specific trade and say, oh yeah mid MIDNIROUMD
pick's fine, But when you're going into the season, like thought,
we're talking about next year, that gets a little trickier
in my experience. So just something to keep in mind.
Let's go to Bogman, your wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
I'm gonna go with another you know, last year of
failures Xavier Lagette, and Xavier Lagette is just completely forgotten about.
Right now is CR sixty six. I'll be honest, I
have him right at sixty six, right at EASR. So
I'm not I don't have him, you know, in my
scopes all the time. But I think this is a
trade if you can go and give up a late

(25:03):
pick or anything insignificant to go get Xavier Lagette, I
think it's worth it, you know. And this is a
first round pick from last season, and I liked the
prospect of McMillan stretching the field down the sideline and
Lagett kind of working underneath a little bit more than
usual because.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
He's so good with the ball in his hands.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
And last year, you know, look, he didn't pop right,
but he had so many injuries. He had a hamstring
injury and rookie camp lower body injury in training camp
which turned out to be a foot injury that he
had offseason surgery on, and that was in camp, so
he drugged that around all year. October eighthy janned his shoulder,
had to leave the game. Didn't miss any time though.

(25:47):
After that October thirty first tow injury in practice. He
played through that. Then he had a groin hip injury
at the end of the year. This year, you hear
nothing about injuries. It's about how big and fast he's looked.
He cooked JC Horne the other day for a long
touchdown in camp, and all of these Panthers wide receivers
are getting buzz right now. Hunter Renfro coming back from

(26:07):
ultertive colitis or whatever it was, looks great in camp.
We've seen a lot of chimmy horn. Obviously, Teed McMillan
has been all over the place pulling down these contested
catches in camp, and I mean some of these highlights
are incredible for McMillan, it's been a lot of fun.
So I just think Legett is being lost in the
shuffle right now because we've seen these positives from renfro

(26:29):
and McMillan. But we know that this Panthers offense this year,
in particular, it is going to have to play point
for point because while they did a lot to fix
the defense, it's gonna go from historically bad to pretty bad.
So they're still gonna have to be playing point for point.
So I think we're throwing away Lagett because of his

(26:49):
bad season last year. We just did not see him
one hundred percent at any point, even in camp. So
I just think there's still a lot of room for
growth for Lgett.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Fits ready to come down on him because he's somebody
that I felt we didn't pretty much after rookie drafts
last year. I can't remember his name being brought up
too often on this show.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
I have a high degree of skepticism Bogs. Just he
is really good with the ball in his hands, no
question about that. Like he could be a special guy,
but I wonder if he might need to be like
a gadgety guy. Like I feel like we're getting put
him in the debo role. We're getting the second coming.
I feel like of Xavier Legette with Savveon Williams and

(27:30):
except the Panthers foolishly traded into the first back of
the first round to draft Xavier Legette, who was always
a really dubious first round pick I thought, and Savion
was drafted later. And also Savion had more of a
little more production early in his college career. That's the
thing about leget that I just can't get passed and
why I thought that was just such a foolhardy first

(27:53):
round pick. He didn't do a thing in college until
he was a fifty year senior. Now, yeah, granted, then
as a f fear senior, he exploded and had a
twelve hundred yard season for South Carolina in the SEC. Impressive,
no doubt. And he is a physical freak and he's
a big dude six to one and like what two
seventeen or something like that. But I just I don't

(28:15):
know if he can win in the conventional ways that
a wide receiver does, like with route running and winning
at the catch point great with the ball in his hands,
But yeah, he might have a pretty narrow path to success.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
And that is more than fair, Like the knocks on
Leguet have been extremely fair. My thing with Lagett is,
right now, what do you have to what is a
trade value charge?

Speaker 2 (28:39):
He's cheap.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
I mean a bag of footballs. It should it should be.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
It should be like a Starbucks gift card gets usaby
to loget right now. So, because he is torched.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
He is sixty seventh most highly you know valued amongst
the receivers on the trade value charts, the equivalent.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Value on par with like Dylan Sam and Rashad White
among running backs, and like Cade Otten and Jatavian Sanders.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
And Malik Willis in a super flex.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Yeah, a quarterback that's not playing.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
So yeah, I just think he's he's so cheap right
now that he is definitely by far the cheapest plays.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Like a late thirty terms of draftic value on our.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Chart, and I think if you have five rounds you
might be able to get him four fourth or a fifth.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Fitz, give me your running back that you want to
talk about here.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
All right, let's talk about ty J Spears. He just
he looked so good as a rookie in twenty twenty three,
like he had one hundred carries because he wasn't going
to get any more. The Titans still had Derek Henry
at the time, but he was just electric on those carries,
and he was really good as a passing down back
that year. Fifty two catches, seven point four yards per catch.

(29:54):
Then last season was just kind of an injury nightmare
for Spears. Ankle injury and a hamstring injury early the season,
then two concussions later on in the season, just kind
of a lost year. Was not as effective as a
runner last year, but still pretty effective as a receiver
thirty catches in twelve games. So Titan's head coach Brian

(30:15):
Callahan keeps talking about wanting to use Tony Pollard and
Tyja Spears in almost equal measure, Like I don't know
if that's going to be true or if it's just
coach speak, but it does suggest that Spears is going
to get pretty healthy usage. It's probably never going to
be the bellcow usage we want, but hey, that's okay.
I mean, Spears weighs under two hundred pounds. He's not

(30:36):
going to be a bell cow. Could still be pretty
valuable in a fifty to fifty role because he's going
to have the passing down work and the Titans offense overall,
I mean it could be a lot better. We were
just talking about cam Ward and how he's a risk
taker and like he's going to move the ball at times.
Offensive line which was kind of shredded by injury last

(31:00):
year healthy again, and the Titans added Dan Moore and
Kevin Zeitler to the mix, and you two should know
about those guys. So I think there's a good chance
we get a breakout from Spears this season.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Bog mean, a Spear is somebody that you feel like
you're trying to go out and a choir.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Right now, I don't know that he's a target. But
the thing that I like about Spears is that there
is no third right, Like, let me ask you this,
FITZI would you rather go Spears or Warren Jalen Warren? See,
I'd rather go Spears just for the simple fact that
the Steelers also have Gain well, right, Like, yeah, they
signed gain Well, and they drafted Caleb Johnson.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
There's three guys there.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
There's not a third guy in Tennessee's Julie's chestnutt Right,
who was good filling in for Spears last year, but
he's not a guy you need to get on the team.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
I think Warren's role is sort of settled, while spears
role is maybe evolving.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Right, it could be more as well. There's a little
more there could be room for touches for Spears as well.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
So I like both those guys.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
But I think, you know, specifically for this year, maybe
not for Dynasty, that I'd rather have Spears, and there
is there is a way he pushes Pollard out. I
still think Pollard's better back. But like Fits, you mentioned,
cam Ward really improving this team. Should you know, the
rising tide lifts all boats steel, you know, everybody should

(32:16):
be a little bit better with cam warden at the
helm this year.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Do you still think about Fits the like lack of
ligament in his knee when thinking about trading for him
in Dynasty.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
A little bit? Maybe it is a short window of productivity.
And I know we've made the Jagi comparison because Jag
I didn't have the ligament. But Jed I did have
that one huge season where he had like what fifteen
hundred yards from scrimmage and was a running back one.
I'd like to think it's going to be a longer
window of productivity for Spears, but hey man, we're not,

(32:48):
especially with kind of the non superstar running back class.
We realize it's going to be a short window for
those guys. But if we can just get like two
or three good years out of ty J Spears, and
for the price he's going right now, I think his
Dynasty investors would be pleased.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Bogwin, who do you have at running back?

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Let's go Zach Sharbona. And that's because I got to
the sheet first. Thank you Fitzy, because I know Fitzy
wanted Zach Sharbonay as well. But look, this guy, he's
only stunted by having a stud like Kenneth Walker in
front of him. Last season tenth in yards after contact
per tenth. He was ninth in yards per target six
and catch percentage among running backs. He was second in

(33:32):
pass block rade, which led to him being on the
field on passing down so much. He had forty two
catches three hundred and eight yards in a score. He
has started eight games for Kenneth Walker in his career.
In those games, he is averaging sixteen point two half
PPR points per game last season, sixteen point two is

(33:53):
exactly what Josh Jacobs averaged, that would be RB seven.
So in his starts and see, there is a lot
to like about Zach charbon Ay. He's a good back.
He's obviously complete, he's a big back. He's a guy
that can be a workhorse if needed. And you know,
there's talk about the Seahawks know how much value they

(34:15):
have in this backfield. They talked before the draft about
potentially trading one of these guys to kind of gain interest.
It's hard to, you know, get teams to trade for
a running back because they are kind of a dime
a dozen at this point. But I just think sharbon
A is extremely talented. He's in a tough spot to
be behind Walker, but Walker has been banged up in
his career, and I believe Walker's free agent if I'm

(34:36):
not mistaken, after this season as well. So I just
think scharbon A just once he gets his chance, he's
gonna go buck wild and I'm here for it. So
I'm trying to get sharbon A everywhere I can. He's
my favorite. He's like the first pick that I had
when this when I saw this was.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
The show that we were doing.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
It's like, all right, well I got Sharbona running back
and I got to figure out everybody else.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
So fits Why did you want to pick sharbon A
too before you were beaten to it?

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, just because he's been really good whenever he's gotten
a chance. So far in two seasons he has seventy
five catches already over his first two years. Last year
he averaged three point three five yards after contact Perkerry,
and he forced thirty two misstackles on only one hundred
and thirty five rushing attempts. And when Kenneth Walker was out,

(35:22):
Charbonnay had a pair of two touchdown games, one against
the Dolphins one against the Cardinals. So like, we have
seen the flashes here, and you know, I've been popping
off all offseason about how good I think this running game,
how improved I think the Seattle running game is going
to be this year with Clint Kubiak as the new
OC and Rick Dennison as the running game coordinator and

(35:45):
just the Kubiak Dennison combination has been gold for running
games for a long time, starting with Clint Kubiak's dad
Gary back in Denver when he was the OC and
Rick Dennison was the offensive line coach. Like the Broncos
kept churning out like impressive running back seasons and we're
always among the team leaders in rushing yardage. So yeah,

(36:07):
I just I love the setup for sharbon Ay and
I think there's real talent here.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, I mean I like Sharbonay a lot too, Like
obviously opportunity is going to be starting to pay those
attention to But I think, I mean, we liked him.
I wasn't doing the show with you guys at the time,
but we liked I liked him as a rookie. I
think you guys probably did like coming in like to
that draft process.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
And yeah, we were both very upset that he ended
up the Seahawks because they had Kem Walker. And by
the way, km Walker is a free agent after the season.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
So I always think of Brooklyn nine nine when the
late Andre Brower was like, they had some discount chardonnay
that's called a sharbonet in the show.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
And.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Bring me a charbonet.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Bring me a great show, great actions.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
So good, Yeah, so good. Love Brooklyn nine nine.

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get to our single favorite breakouts to target any position fits.
Who is your tight end?

Speaker 2 (37:57):
All right? I've already gotten hit with a few pieces,
often fruit from trying to sell Anthony Richardson to folks.
If I couldn't sell you on Anthony Richardson, I probably
will not be able to sell you on Kyle Pitts,
who has had Yeah, Pitts has had even more instances
of NFL failure than Richardson has had. And they're just

(38:18):
a lot of dynasty managers with scar tissue from past
experiences with Kyle pits. But we are still talking about
a twenty four year old tight end who was the
number four overall pick in the draft, just like Anthony
Richardson was, and who played his first NFL game at
age twenty and became the first rookie tight end in
sixty years to have a thousand yard season. So Andrew

(38:41):
Cooper of Fantasy Alarm, who has been a guest in
the Fantasy Pros Football podcast, and it is a guy
who's heavily focused on the tight end position for fantasy
Coop says he looks for two things when he's trying
to find sleeper tight ends. One does the sleeper candidate
have a path to being the number two target on
his team? And two is the athletic And Pitts very

(39:04):
much checks both of those boxes. He is an athletic freak,
hence one of the reasons why he was the number
four overall pick in the draft when he came out.
And it's probably either gonna be Kyle Pitts or Darnell
Mooney is the number two receiver in Atlanta and Mooney
is now out for several weeks with the shoulder injury.
So I know a lot of people hate Pits because
he's burned them. So he is now really cheap in Dynasty,

(39:27):
like the price is just there is hatred baked into
the price of Kyle Pitts, like he is dirt cheap.
But this is just it's another toolsy young player. I
am not ready to give up on yet.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
I actually don't know the way that Coop does this.
But when talking about the number two target, is he
excluding running backs because I kind of feel like Beijon
will be the number two target in this.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Well, yeah, but I mean, running backs just don't get
ninety or one hundred targets typically, and usually the number
two target on a team does. So, I mean, Viijon's
going to catch a lot of passes. He could catch
seventy five passes, but he's also going to have a
catch rate of like eighty five percent because he's catching
passes at or beyond the behind the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I just want I just wanted
to mention because I I you know, I would imagine
he'll get more receptions, but yeah, it's a it's a
different way to think about the receptions. Yeah, I mean,
Pitts is like in Vogna. I'm curious if you are
feeling similarly or if you're just done with it, Like
he's one of those guys. He's probably the prime example
of a guy that I just can't blame anybody who's
out and just done with it. And if you just

(40:31):
have no interest, like fine, who, I can't talk you
out of that. But it is certainly a good case
in tight end is a position that often takes a
while to develop, So it wouldn't be shocking, you know,
if if he is finally kind of fully healthy again,
and you know, now we have this big arm at
quarterback in Atlanta for the first time in his career. Like,
it's an interesting case to be made, but I can't

(40:53):
really fight against the emotions of having been burned by
this guy too much being afraid to go after him.
It's not an argument you can really craft against it. So, Bogman,
what do you think about Pitts?

Speaker 3 (41:03):
I mean, the reason he has so much hate is
because everyone has had a crack, right, Like, everyone's had
a chance to roster him, and unless you rostered him
the rookie season, you do hate his guts.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
Because he let you down. You way over paid for him.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Most likely in any scenario, I do think you're right
fits that there's still a lot of There's still a
lot of football left in Kyle Pitts, right Like, he
was injured that year after his rookie season, hasn't had
a ton after that. He's not like an injury prone guy.
He's had some horrific quarterback play. You know, Desmond Ritter

(41:39):
for a couple of seasons, and then you know Kirk
Cousins coming off in Achilles was not good to start
last year.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
And last year getting used to a new system with
Zach Robinson. First year playing system.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
With Robinson rookie quarterbacks starting at the end of the year,
injured quarterback the rest of the year. So you know,
I think I probably even have him too low where
I have him on tight end, and I probably need
to bring him back up a little bit because I'm
part of that as well. So I do love it,
like Fitz is on this hill, and look, I'm I'm

(42:11):
on a lot most of the hills with Fitsy fighting
with him. This one, I'm like, all right, brother, you're
up there, this is your stance. I'll watch from down here.
So I can't go through it again with Kyle Pitts,
I think that's where I'm at.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
What's your pick here, Bogwin, I'm.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Gonna go with Mason Taylor.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
There weren't a lot of tight ends here that I
really liked, and I was debating. I had considered Pits,
but I kind of knew FITZI was the pits guy.
I looked at, you know, like lower end guys like
Jatavian Sanders, Ben Sinnett. I think those are good selections
for this as well. I went with Mason Taylor, and
I went back to a rookie, and a rookie that

(42:49):
I wasn't really big on coming in to the draft,
but the situation that he goes to is so overwhelmingly
good for him. You know, Mason Taylor going to the Jets,
there's just no other competition right now. It's Jeremy Ruckert,
who he's already passed according to all reports on the
depth chart, and he's way more complete of a player

(43:10):
of a tight end than Stone Smart is, right, So
someone smart as a receiving tight end, only he can't
in line block, and Mason Taylor can do a little
bit of everything. He's really good with a ball in
his hands. He's really good at making a contested catch
as well. And you know who is number two? We're
just talking about that with the situation in Atlanta. Who

(43:32):
is number two? There's probably Bejean, It's probably Breese Hall
behind Garrett Wilson in New York. But after that it's
Josh Reynolds. Josh Reynolds having a good camp. He's a veteran,
right but I don't know that he has a crazy ceiling.
You know, neither does Al Lazard. So right now it's
Garrett Wilson and kind of nobody. I think Mason Taylor

(43:53):
specifically in the first year with Justin Fields, who they're
gonna want to run the ball a lot, you know,
and throw short passes. I think Taylor could be in
for a lot of like easy dump off, like a
John news Smith type of season from last year where
there's just a lot of design short passes for Justin
Fields because they work off of options and things like that.

(44:13):
So I think Mason Taylor could jump into an early,
very productive role for the Jets this year.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
I go back and forth fits on my favorite of
this like kind of tier of tight end, Like I
really like Taylor, I like like Elijah Royo, Like all
these rookies coming in that went in kind of this
day to the draft and you could have considered as year.
I'm intrigued by all of these guys and I want
to be invested in them. Mason Taylor specifically for you, Fits,
is he somebody that you see as a breakout candidate.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah, He's interesting for sure. One thing he has that
some of those guys don't have NFL bloodlines, with his
dad being Jason Taylor, the ed rusher extraordinaire for the Dolphins.
He is really athletic. He has what second round draft capital,
and he does well. I don't know, Boggs, you left

(45:03):
out some luminaries in the Jets wide receiver room like
Xavier Gibson and Malachi Corley and Tyler Johnson and Arian Smith,
who I think dropped more balls in college than he
actually caught. So yeah, like he actually does meet that
Andrew Cooper threshold of having a path to being the
number two target in this Jets offense as a rookie.

(45:28):
The only thing is I do expect that the Jets
are probably going to have among the fewest pass attempts
in the league, just because so like Justin Field's average
like twenty four pass attempts a game when he was
the starter in Chicago, and so many of his dropbacks
and in either sacks or scrambles that it kind of
mutes the overall passing volume. But still there's just so

(45:50):
little Who's going to catch him besides Garrett Wilson basically.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Yeah, exactly, So who has more catches this year Fitzie
Warren or Taylor as rookies?

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Tyler Warren, No, I'm betting on Warren still better? Oh yeah, yeah,
I mean he's just the talent level I think in
the college.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
I think it's way more talented to Mason Taylor. There's
no doubt about that. But I think I bet they're
with them five catches of each other. Could be because
I just think that Warren is one of a bunch
of targets in Indy and Taylor is one of three.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
Targets in New York. It's Wilson, Taylor, and Hall.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
I bet that's going to be your your one, two
three in receptions for Jets this year.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
All right, we saved the best four last any position
whichever you guys want your single favorite breakouts to target fits.
Who is the number one guy on your list?

Speaker 2 (46:42):
It's Marvin Mims, and he is a really interesting player
and kind of a hard guy to get a handle on.
So Mims was a second round pick in twenty twenty
three and he's been in the league now for two years.
His average depth of target in his first season was
fifteen point one yards and he averaged seventeen point one
yards per catch. He was a deep ball specialist. Last season,

(47:06):
Mims averaged up the target was seven point four yards.
He did a lot of his damage on screen passes,
his usage was kind of gadgety, to be honest. He
line up in the backfield a lot of the time.
He was like a schemed up touches guy. What is
Marvin Mims at this point? Like back in the earliest

(47:27):
days of Saturday Night Live, there was a mock commercial
for a product called Shimmer, and you can find this
on YouTube, by the way. It was Dan Ackroyd and
Gilda Radner were in the kitchen arguing about how to
use shimmer. It's a floor wax. No, it's a dessert topping.
And then Chevy Chase shows up as the pitch man

(47:47):
shimmers a floor wax and a dessert topping, And like,
maybe that's the kind of angle we're getting with Marvin Mims,
Like he's a gadget guy and a deep ball specialist.
It's a weird profile, for sure, but I'm pretty interested
in a twenty three year old former second round pick
who scored six touchdowns over the broncos last seven regular
season games last year, averaged sixty two yards a game

(48:10):
over that stretch, even though he played less than half
of the Broncos offensive snaps in all seven of those games.
That was just crazy production in this really limited role,
and Mims averaged almost twice as many fantasy points per
snap over those seven games as Jamar Chase averaged on
the way to a wide receiver one overall season. Yes,

(48:32):
the ambiguous usage is kind of concerning, and the role
is ambiguous too, but like there's real talent here, and
I want to bet on the talent of Marvin Mims
now while the ambiguity is holding down the price I get.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
I just get so nervous with like Sean Payton and
I don't know, I don't even have like a good
rebuttal to Like why you're excited about it?

Speaker 2 (48:56):
You're more floor wax than dessert top.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
I guess he could say that very nice fits.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Yeah, I mean bogging with Where do you come down
on it?

Speaker 3 (49:06):
I'm not really a Mims guy, And it's because he's
not on the field as much as I want. We know,
volume is king. It's not just volume of targets, it's
also of snap percentage, and I just he doesn't have
a reliable snap percentage on a week week basis. Right, Like,
like you said, there are spots where he's amazing. I
would love to see that. Now, Look, if he gets

(49:28):
the snaps. That's why you buy loan now, right, That's
why you do it. Is if he starts getting a
higher snap rate because he just he's teetering on the
point fits, you're definitely right about taking a swing at him.
This is just like Legette, right, Like he's cheap. Take
a swing right now, because you can get him very
very cheap. Because if he does start getting the volume,

(49:50):
you know what he is with the ball in his hands,
He's electric. It's you know, it's almost a criminal misusage
of him to not have him on the ball or
scheme up plays for him a little bit more like
you know the Chiefs did with Dante Hall back in
the day. It's like, just scheme up some more touches
for if he's great with the ball in his hands
every time he touches it, get him the ball a

(50:10):
little bit more, right, Like I would love to see
that from him. I just they run the ball so much.
He's such as zero as a run blocker. They take
him off the field so much because of that. You know,
maybe that extends him, but it definitely caps him as well.
So if he can get over that hump and snaps
and start pushing people more to the bench so that

(50:33):
there's less sharing and mixing. Then, I mean he could
be an absolute stud. I just don't know when and
if he gets.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
That Bogman's surprise. No one with your pick here.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
I mean, look, I haven't talked to him about him
on this feed for like a month, right, I did
talk about him on the flagship the other day. It's
Cam Skataboo. And look, this is just jamming this home here.
He's already making camp buzz this year might be annoying, right,
Tracy isn't going anywhere. Singletary is still there and has

(51:06):
you know, he stunted James Cook, he ruined Damian Pierce.
So we've seen him push some decent running backs out
or just you know, stunt them for playing time. But
I just Cam Skataboo had I think it was twenty
less touches for Arizona State last year than Singletary and
Tracy had combined for the Giants last season. I think

(51:28):
you're gonna see this dude become the breadwinner early in
the season, if not from week one. He is a
complete back. He was great as receiver at Arizona State
as well. Not a good pass blocker. Not because he
can't do it, but because he needs to refine his footwork.
The effort is there, he is. I just think he's

(51:51):
gonna take over this backfield. And I think when you
look at these players, it makes the most sense to
have Tyrone Tracy kind of move around in the formation
right moved wide receiver, run reverses, be a third down
back on occasion, play in the slot, Have Singletary be
the change of pace, and have can be your lead back.
The way these backs are built, that is how this

(52:12):
offense should operate. Doesn't mean it's going to right. We've
crazier things that have happened, and we've seen Tyrone Tracy
look good last season, but those fumbles are why Cam
Skatabu was drafted and he is. He is a workhorse,
and specifically late in the game, if the Giants are
trying to sit on a lead, this is a dude

(52:32):
you give the ball to and with that defense, you
want to control the clock, so you want to run
the ball a little bit more. I just everything points
to Cam scattaboy leading this team in touches early in
his career. I think it's going to happen real quick,
and I think he's still going a little bit too
low fits.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
We've talked about Scataboo a lot. Any just quick thoughts
on him here.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Yeah, I mean not the classic running back prospect, but
he definitely has a path to playing time. I kind
of believe in the talent. I was sort of a
semi believer, and Bogs has definitely helped persuade me over
you know, the last what seven months whenever it was
when we started getting into the pre draft process. So yeah,

(53:16):
I'm bullish overall. And you know, I know Bogs is
never going to forgive me for sniping him on Scatibo
and uh, the league we're in together that.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
You know, I'm trying to offer him like like six
different ways to get this deal done.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Yes, And I just kept the pick and took Scataboo
right in front of Bogman, and I think he still
hates me for it.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
All Right, let's get into some mailback questions here. If
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(54:00):
show at fantasypros dot com slash chat. We don't have
a ton of time. We actually end up getting a
lot of questions on this mailbag. So what I want
to do is kind of speed through and I'll give
you guys. You know, I'll give one of you each
question and just kind of move back and forth without
both of you wing in and all of them because
I want to hit on as many of these as possible. Bogman,
first question for you, yes or no? In IDP leagues,

(54:23):
is playing Travis Hunter in that slot and unfair advantage?

Speaker 4 (54:29):
Probably?

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Probably, But that's you know the I.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Mean, but that's the way it is, Like, it just
depends on your format and how the commissioner, if the
commissioner even has a choice to assign it.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
It is a cheat code.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
But I wrote about this in our draft guide and
in the Black Book about try I have a Travis
Hunter just section, so check it out.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
It fits for you. Thoughts on the long term outlook
of Chase Brown, assuming he keeps as sending on this
Bengals offense, No way they will pay him considering the
cap tied up with Burrow, Chase and Higgins already.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Right, Yeah, I mean he needs one more good year
to cement his I think fantasy credibility. But again, he
is probably going to get another chance to be well.
He is going to be the lead guy, and I
don't know how much work Taj Brooks or Samaj p
Rein are going to steal from him. The Bengals just

(55:23):
got rid of Zach Moss. I think the talent is terrific,
but he's obviously not going to get like eighty five
percent of the snaps and touches the way he was
doing down the stretch last year. Maybe it was closer
to ninety five percent. Yeah, I mean, like I want
one more year out of him. But you know, Boggs
and I think have been in on the talent since

(55:45):
since he was basically behind Moss on the depth chart.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Bogman, who are you feeling as the best late round
rookie picks? Some of the names that are thrown out here.
Royals Thornton Bryant, Lambert Manong Guy, JCM Hunter, Neil James,
and etn I.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
Neil stands out to me.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
I think there's just a really quick path to playing
time for him in New Orleans. And I'm you know,
I just talked about how I'm not the biggest MEM's guy.
I am a big Pat Bryant guy though, so love
the motor. Love that there. He's already being compared to
Michael Thomas. But he is a flyer. Royal's very very
talented as well, another player I like a lot, But

(56:25):
I just don't know where he gets.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
His time fits. How do you navigate negotiating with horrible
trade offers? He shows an example here. I won't read
through every name here, but he gets offered, as he
puts it, this albatross for a new owner taking over
an orphan team clearly rejected. How do you navigate getting
this terrible trade offers and trying to negotiate with somebody
who's just so far off?

Speaker 2 (56:45):
I usually don't. I mean, if it's just so far off,
it's not my job to bring his trade offer or
her trade offer back into the realm of like the plausible,
Like that's not my job. If you come to me
with just a redict killus offer, Like why should I
be obligated to rework it into something that actually works
for both parties? Like it's a bad faith offer. I'm

(57:08):
not necessarily giving it my time. Come to me with
something in the ballpark and we can work together. But
if you insult me, you know the heck.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
With you, Bogman, I'm contending this year starting running backs
or James Cook and Chase Brown? Would you roll with
both or try and trade before the shoe drops? As
they are both twenty five?

Speaker 4 (57:27):
Nah roll with them because I think they're both in
for huge years this year. So I'm rolling with them
right now.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Fits out of the following, who should I keep in
a keeper league? Breese Hall, Patrick Mahomes, T Higgins or
Brock Bauers. It does not specify if this is like
super flex or anything.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
I mean, I've got brock Bowers ranked highest of those guys.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Would you go Mahomes if it's superflex?

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Oh? Yeah, I think you have to. But yeah, I
mean Bowers is just like he is, Bogman, And I
believe that the elevator has not reached the top floor yet,
and he was still pretty marvelous as the over back
quarterback last.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Year, right Bogman. On teams where you have a surplus
of late round rookies and a limited number of taxi
squad spots, how do you prioritize who should be left
on taxi versus who should be left on the bench.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Whoever is going to be guaranteed playing time or whoever
has the most trade value I put on my squad,
so I'm not tempted to cut them because I know
someone will trade for them.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
So that's that's how I would do it.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
You know, you try to work a trade the best
you can, but whoever is closest to playing time goes
on the bench instead of on the taxi.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Two questions left here fits for you. I just drafted
a team in a new PPR super Flex tight end
Premium Dynasty league. How critical are tight ends in a
tight end premium league? Am I in trouble with these?
Is my tight ends? TJ. Hockinson, Evan Ingram and Ben
Sinnett only has to start one, but there are two
flex spots. And again it's PPR tight end Premium.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
No, man, that's fine, And look, people tend to overvalue
tight ends in tight end premis like because it's it's
usually one and a half and people think that means
tight ends are one hundred and fifty percent more valuable.
Not the case. You're only getting the one hundred and
fifty percent value on the receptions. But tight ends also
score with yardage and with touchdowns. So brock Bauers his

(59:17):
point total in one and a half point tight end
premium last year, I think it was twenty one about
twenty one and a half percent more than his non
premium tight end total. And with Mark Andrews, who got
more of his value on touchdowns, Mark Andrews was like
fourteen and a half percent more valuable in tight end premium.
So it's not the huge value boost that people think

(59:40):
it is. And you know, you're fine. He's got two
totally viable tight ends. You don't need to have a superstar.
And what it does is is sometimes it drives down
the value at other positions and gives you bargains at
wide receiver, running back and quarterback.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Bob, and we got to get out of here. Last
question for you, though, how would you feel about a
win Now startup super flex PPR Gibbs, Saquon h Chan
and Henriette running backs obviously loaded there, but the wide
receivers are McLaurin, Evans, and Davante. It's two running back,
three receiver, three flex and a super flex.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Yeah, I mean this is I love this start and
this is a win Now team.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
Uh All.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
What you have to do when you're rostering a team
like this is you have to hit your draft picks
very very well. So become familiar with the college pool,
no know it before everybody else does, so you know
everything going in and that way you make good picks
because these guys are going to start falling off like
flies and you're gonna have to make the most out

(01:00:39):
of those picks quickly. So as long as you're confident
in your ability to do that, starting with these old
guys is no big deal, especially if you win.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
I will say, he doesn't mention his quarterbacks, and this
is a super flex, so that I wonder if you
hopefully didn't skip that position in a team. But obviously
the running backs and even this.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
I mean the wide receivers a little little.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Sus yeah, but for win Now like Adams Evans, McLaurin,
like I'll.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Sound like, yeah, he just waited for those old running
backs to fall a little bit, probably got his QBS early,
so all.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Right, so we'll go ahead and wrap things up there.
Thanks everybody for tuning in to today's episode four Bogman
and Fits, I'm Ryan warmly. We'll see again next time.
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