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February 23, 2026 55 mins

Join Seth Woolcock and Derek Brown as they preview the 2026 NFL Combine and highlight their predictions for the most intriguing players that you should be keeping an eye on!

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Intro - 0:00:00

The Freak List - 0:06:41

Taylen Green - 0:06:57

Demond Claiborne - 0:10:10

Brenen Thompson - 0:13:42

Hard Rock Bet - 0:17:40

The 40-Yard Dash - 0:19:23

RB and WR Flag Plants - 0:19:30

Defensive Players - 0:27:15

Other Skill Players - 0:33:30

FantasyPros Dynasty YouTube Channel - 0:43:22

Who Will Rise and Who’d Deserve a 2nd Chance? - 0:44:10

The “Do Not Overreact” Candidate - 0:48:17

Outro - 0:54:48

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
All right, and welcome into the Fantasy Pros NFL Draft Show.
The process rolls on to Indianapolis, where all eyes will
be on the NFL Combine. We'll break down everything you
need to know from a predictions and preview standpoint. I'm
your host, Seth Wilcott, coming off last year's combine where
I hit a forty two to one ticket on Matthew

(00:23):
going to have the fastest forty time four wide receivers.
And I'm joined by a man who also hopes to
cash in on this year's event. He's absolutely been grinding
the tape over the last few weeks because he is
the GM for all fans football managers everywhere.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
He's Derek Brown Debro.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
How are you as we gear up for another piece
of the puzzle coming into focus this week at Lucas
Oil Stadium.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Dude, I mean we're getting ready for it. The twenty
twenty six Underwear Olympics aren't here, Mandy, let's go. I mean, dude,
but seriously, like it's it's a wonderful spectacle. Like there's
a lot that we're gonna unpack here on this episode,
and there's a lot to be gained where you know,
whether it's all the measurables and things like that. I
want to hop the I want to jump this off

(01:05):
with something that I think is absolute just crap, and
I don't care about at all, because I've seen this
making the rounds on the social media and people are like, oh,
the quarterbacks, like this guy is gonna throw. Oh, he's
not gonna throw, Mendoza is not gonna throw, blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah. I don't care about quarterbacks
throwing at the freaking combine. Man, We're gonna talk about
a ton of stuff that we think matters and that

(01:26):
is worth the substance of forty times and athletics and
stuff like that. You can miss me with all the
quarterback throwing drills. It does not matter at all. It
doesn't matter for draft stock, it doesn't matter for any
of these guys, because, simply put, like seth, do you

(01:47):
think NFL gms give any sliver of crap about the
fact of a guy throwing to wide receivers that he's
never thrown with before in an unfamiliar environment with guys
he has no rapport with, right versus multiple years of
game tape throwing in games that matter. It does not matter.

(02:12):
People are like, oh, this is the place for Ty
Simpson to really submit to his first round status, and
I was like, dude, he's either a first round player
on boards or he's not throwing at the NFL Combine
is not going to change that. And if it does
in any scouts estimation, they suck. I'll just straight up

(02:33):
say it. They're not doing their job well because this
should not matter. Man, it doesn't matter. Am I wrong?

Speaker 2 (02:42):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:43):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:43):
I think I think you're straight on, And like, really,
today's crux of the episode is will be breaking down
more of the measurements and like what's going to matter
in the testing as far as the on field drills though, Derek,
I would love to just kind of get your standpoint on,
like what are the field drills that you're really paying
attention to, whether that's the gauntlet for position players or

(03:05):
how are the shuttle the three cone, Like what are
some of these ones outside of the main forty yard dash?

Speaker 2 (03:11):
And like these testing metrics that we're gonna be talking about,
I mean.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
The short area stuff, and then once we get into
the nitty gritty of like the forty times, like okay,
those matter but to me, the ten yard splits and
when we get out of those, because yeah, there's a
lot of correlation that can be found as far as
like not just forty times with ten yard split time
and that correlating to tackle breaking ability and stuff. So

(03:35):
for me, it's it's the deeper stuff, like you can
miss me with the gauntlet drill. I do not care.
It does not matter, Okay, And people are gonna be like,
like we've had these these debates and previous years of
like his forty time isn't good, but on the gauntlet
he ran twenty two miles an hour. It that doesn't matter,
it it, It really doesn't. I don't care about that.

(03:56):
Like the fluidity of a guy running in a freaking
straight line and going past, past, past past, When when
is that happening in an NFL game of a guy
just like being like, oh, catch pass, catch pass, catch pass,
catch pass. It doesn't matter. Like you could see fluidity,
you can see hip movement, you could see guys and
as far as that type of athleticism all on their

(04:18):
actual game film as far as like what a'll care
about it the on field stuff. Some of the drills,
like the short area drills for running backs, and you
know what you take out of that some of the
route running stuff. You know you can because some of
these guys haven't been asked to run some of those routes.
Like there's just some of the running backs, like a

(04:39):
lot of collegiate offenses do not ask them to run
angle routes. You don't see them running wheel routes like literally,
it's just dump off swings, flats like that's it. They
leak out of the backfield after they chip somebody on
the way to a dump off. Like So some of
that that I'll take out of this. But by and large,
like I said, I don't care about a quarterback throwing

(05:01):
the wide receivers that he has never thrown before. When
you have to have the merriment of the rapport of
knowing how a guy's gonna run his route and stuff,
and if that, if that doesn't match up, it's gonna
look like a really bad rep and it might not
be the quarterback's fault at all. He was expecting the
guy not to stop the route, but to continue it

(05:23):
down or not to round it off and run it
two yards deeper or something like that. So you can
miss me with all of.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
That, Yeah, it certainly there's going to be a lot
of fodder. There's gonna be a lot of conversation. You
kind of just have to wade through it. Today's program
does look like this, So we're gonna break down Deebro's
freak list just the top three athletes to watch this
weekend at the Combine. Then we'll break down our flag
plant predictions for the forty yard dash. This is one
of my favorite betting markets to get invested with every

(05:50):
single season. I've said it in the past and it
hasn't been received well that between the NFL Combine first
NASCAR road course of the season, this is one of
my favorite biggest cars have out on the Betting Pros
app this weekend, so make sure you're following me over
there as well as Derek. And then we're going to
round out the program with the player that Derek really
expects to rise the most this weekend in Indianapolis, and

(06:13):
then the players who also we shouldn't really overreact to
a poor Combine performance from So before we jump in
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new as well. And deebro, let's start right there at
the freaks list. These are the players that you think
will impress the most at the combine due to their
world class athleticism, whether that's the forty times, the strength,

(06:54):
the high vertical jump, you name it.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
And let's start at the quarterback position. Who is your
freak at QB?

Speaker 3 (07:00):
So, I easily could have made a med a case
for Cole Payton and how he runs and how he tests.
But I thought we've given a lot of love and
now social media is catching up to a seth about
plenty and it can needs to continue to get louder, sir.
But social media's talk about Cole Payton. So I wanted
to go in a different direction here. And somebody that
I feel like this athleticism is also going to be

(07:20):
directly tied to his possible draft stock improving in terms
of proof of concept and the dual threat ability of
quarterback tailing Green out of Georgia, Like looking at him,
you know it comes down to what is he going
to do in the forty What is he going to
do in the testing metrics? Is he or excuse me?

(07:41):
And I totally botched his college. That's why I was
looking this up on the side screen Arkansas. So looking
at Taylor Green, there were reports he's got a thirty
six inch for he ran twenty two point one miles
per hour in the collegiate season. There are rumors out
there he's got a four or five forty man. And
so looking at Tayling Green's draft stock, and where is

(08:02):
he going to go right now on mock draft database,
one hundred and seventy fourth overall, So like really like
scraping late round uh picked ups? Looking at Taylor Green.
Can he explode in the combine and be like a
late fourth rounder versus being a guy that's fifth round
or UDFA or what have you. And so I really

(08:24):
think like the proof of concept of him being a
top shelf athlete and that really lending itself to teams
saying okay, sure, like you the Russian component is going
to be a thing in the NFL. You have athleticism
in the size speed combo to do that. And for
a quarterback class, like a lot of people are annoying, Oh,
Ty Simpson is the QB two of this class. I

(08:45):
think there's fluidity and you're gonna see fluidity of ranks
for everybody out there, everything from KB two to QB
seven or QB eight and so where Tailing Green falls
in that, I think putting his best foot forward at
the combine is really going to help him.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, I completely agree.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Like he is kind of the Anthony Richardson of this
class when you just look at six six two twenty
four projected as you mentioned to run us sub four
or five. Yeah, I think that's a great a great
comp as well. And like allegedly he has hit twenty
three miles per hour in training and also a triple
jumper in high school forty three foot triple jumper if

(09:25):
you want to get specific with it. So this is
a guy who's a track and field background rush for
over fifteen hundred yards the past two seasons at Arkansas,
so he has been electric, not a winner. That's kind
of the thing that we've all, you know, really taken
our shots at this guy for Arkansas, whether a.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Sam Pittman or when the interim came in.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
This year, just kind of disappointed a little bit from that,
you know, a football winning leadership standpoint. I will say too,
like I'm gonna throw out some college football twenty twenty
six speed scores.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
You don't have to take those.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I personally think they do a pretty good job of
hitting these most of the time. He's tied for the
second fastest in college football twenty twenty six at the
quarterback position, among quarterbacks in this class. So just something
to keep in mind there that I think this guy
is going to be a great athlete. He is going
to put it on display here in Indianapolis. Let's go
to the running back position and Derek, it's one that

(10:15):
coming out of the ACC is gonna be a bit chalky,
probably the favorite to run the fastest forty. Now that
Nicholas Singleton is out of this event, who is it
and why are you all about him this week?

Speaker 3 (10:25):
I mean, you're talking about EA college football twenty twenty
six grades. Let's talk about the guy with the fastest
grade of any running back considering, Yeah, that's Demon Claiborn Man.
I mean, for everybody that's not familiar with him, we
haven't brought him up on previous shows. Five nine two.
This guy's a speedser man. Absolute electricity twenty two point

(10:45):
three miles an hour rumor five hundred pounds. Squat. Dude
can clean three hundred freaking pounds. So looking at him,
and I agree with you, I think he's going to
be up there. As far as odds, like what would
you say, just I mean, because we don't have odds
as at the time of we're recording this, YEP, top three,
He's gonna be at least in the top three, if
not the favorite. I think him and the other guy

(11:06):
that I'm going to talk about to lead off wide
receivers is probably those two guys are going to be
amongst like two of the top three guys as far
as like best Hodds for the bestest forty am I wrong,
Seth No.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
And I think if you're just looking at running backs
as a whole, I think he will be the clear favorite,
and I would not be surprised if he's teetering right
around even money, right, because when we see these players
get steamed up that like this, Like we saw Aaron
Smith last year, he was going off. By the time
the combine started on Saturday, he was right around like

(11:38):
minus one forty to win the wide receiver position and
he didn't even do that.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
So, yeah, but it was.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Something to keep in mind.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
He's met last year to Yeah, che He's gonna get
a lot of steam though, for sure, because like Derek,
he's a very patient runner. But then when he finds
that hole, he's got great burst, right, And he was
someone that really took wake Forest over the top this season.
Wake fourst has been absolually one of the more dumpster
programs in the ACC. I mean, they haven't had a
winning season since twenty twenty two, and they came out

(12:07):
I mean they gave Georgia Tech heck earlier this year
they finished nine and four. They're in the conversation potentially
go to the conference title game at one point, so
I'm here. He's been on record for potentially hitting a
twenty two point three mile per hour mark and a
ten yard split of zero point nine seconds with a
twenty five yard build up, So Clayborne definitely someone I
think who will be speedy.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, I agree with you, man. I think he's gonna
run fast. And I've seen some people out there talking
about oh Jdarium Price and some other names floating out
there that are gonna run like I want to throw
it out there, like as well as we're talking about
like the freaklist guys. Dude, I'm not gonna be surprised
if Jaendarium Price gets drafted in the second round. I
know there's like some some kooky first round buzz. He's

(12:48):
not gonna go in the first round, so like, don't
get a twisted people, that's not happening. The other thing
that I do not think that'll happen is don't burn
your money if you're betting fastest running back time. I
don't think Juderium Price is gonna get fastest running back
like straight up. No, he's not a guy that has
like four to three speed. Like I'm hoping that he
runs somewhere in the mid four fours, but like if

(13:09):
he runs a high four four or a low four five,
depending on it. Because the other thing we saw last
year in Indian I don't know if they do this
again this year, but they put down all brand new turf,
and you saw a lot of guys that were projected
for certain forty times come in and run a little
bit slower. So also put that into your calculus about
like monitors some of that news, are they going to

(13:29):
replace any of this stuff, because that also in the
grand scheme of all of this can make the difference
between some of these guys and what they're testing times
and if they're smart not running an indy and just
running at the Pro day.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Derek, let's got a wide receiver, which is always a
fascinating topic when it comes to the combine, and we've
seen it in previous years, the Don Tavian Wicks of
the world. Right, who can really submit themselves as at
least a draftable player with a fast forty with just
overall athleticism on display. Who's your wide receiver that is

(14:04):
your top freak for this weekend?

Speaker 3 (14:06):
I mean again, we're talking about the chalk pick here.
I don't think he's gonna be drafted higher than like
the third or fourth round because he's extremely fast. He
is a blur, but he's also incredibly tiny, and how
does he play in the NFL and what does that
look like? And this feels like a case of what

(14:26):
we thought Exavier Worthy was going to be in the
NFL versus what Exavier Worthy has been in the NFL,
And we're just kind of playing the same game again
with Brenan Thompson. Dude, I think that this is gonna
be the chalk pick to run the fastest forty at
the combine. Like all, I mean, you can correct me
if I'm wrong here, but dude, like blazing fast wide receiver,

(14:48):
wide receiver, former high school quarterback Texas three to a
two hundred meter champion with a twenty one point two
second time. This guy has clocked into twenty three point
seven miles per hour and oh, by the way, he
could bench three hundred and five pounds. Tell me this
isn't gonna be the chalk pick to run the fastest
forty this year.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
No, absolutely agreed with you.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
And this is someone who I'm a big fan of,
Brendan Thompson coming out of Mississippi State. Here he carried
my college football fantasy team this past season, really took
over that slot role in Starkville after you saw Kevin
Coleman transfer to Miszoo.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
That kind of opened up this spot for him.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Really before he came to Starkfield as well, he's really
seen more of a gadget as a gadget player, whether
that was his time at Texas or Oklahoma before that.
He had three years to one at Texas two at Oklahoma.
And as you mentioned, like this is a track and
field type of guy. Not only did he win that
trip away two hundred meter state title, and keep in

(15:48):
mind this is Texas, Like this is Texas where he
has to those premier athletes, but he also finished second
in the one hundred meter dash as a high school
junior as well. And then I think he went on
in his senior year he didn't even play track and field,
if you remember, just because he was already committed and
I think was an early en rollee as well.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
So for me, he's.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Another guy you look at college football twenty twenty six,
third best in the class among wide receivers, ninety six
in speed, and I think that was even underserving him
a little bit because we just didn't see enough of
him ahead of the twenty twenty five season. But hey,
he was someone who was in my lineup every single
week for fantasy this past year and someone absolutely like
he's a multi unit play for me. I think when

(16:28):
it comes to the wide receivers. I mean we said
the same at least I did with Arian Smith last year.
He was also a track and field guy and really underperformed.
But I think Brendon Thompson specifically at his size is
really a freak overall, especially with the bench as you
said as well.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah, I mean looking at him. If you are going
to bet him, it depends on what the market opens
as And I think if you're gonna bet him, you
need to grab the line early because I think the
steam is gonna oh yes, heavy, and his line is
gonna move incredibly fast. So if you've ever bet bet
the NFL combine before and you plan on doing so
again this year, if you were going to bet him,

(17:06):
you have to be like monitoring the books and as
soon as his line drops, if you're gonna bet it,
bet it then, because if not, it's gonna be untouchable.
Like what what do you say, like seth like probably
like later, like even that day, like if not, the
next day, it's gonna get steamed fast. You're gonna see
that line move very quickly.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
I took Arian Smith I think on the Tuesday when
lines dropped last year, and he was even money and
by the time we got to the combine it was
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Speaker 1 (19:26):
Derek, let's go ahead and let's jump into the forty
yard dash and our flag plant plays, and we'll start
with you at the running back position.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
It's Claiborne for you.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
The question for me is just how confident are you
and what will the unit allocation be for you?

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah, I mean I've already kind of given my guys
out for a running back and wide receiver with Deamin
Claiborne and Brendan Thompson, and I think that because of
both of these guys, they're gonna get steamed very quickly
and they're probably gonna be near the favorite list. I'm
not gonna bet them happy, because we see the variability
with combine every year where they're a good point, guys
can get injured running it, they have a slower time

(20:02):
than anticipated, and stuff like that. So I would tread
lightly with both of them, only because I don't think
the odds are going to be really good. So I mean,
I'm kind of going with the two chalk picks here,
but I'm curious who outside of my two chalk picks
at running back and wide receiver, who are your two
picks with running back and wide receiver here?

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, And I think it's always smart to hedge in
these markets when it's hey, you're picking one player out
of a list of a lot of players, right, And
because like like last year, I was so heavy on
Arian Smith. I had multiple I think I had three
or four units down on him, and I just took
a half unit fly.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, yeah, it was it was a bad bet.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
But then I happen to take that half flyer on
Matthew Golden that really kind of made the weekend. So
I think it's always smart to hedge in these types
of markets. My first favorite flag plant at the running
back position, Desmond Reid out of Pittsburgh, absolutely worth a
sprinkle here, five to eight one, one hundred and seventy
five pounds back that started his collegiate career at Western
Carolina and eventually transfers up to the City of Bridges

(20:58):
where he was originally just like an electric returner, and
maybe I think he's the best running back pass catcher
in this class when you're just talking about pure guy
who can have soft hands and extend plays when he
has the ball in his hands through the pass game.
Fifty two receptions, five hundred and seventy nine yards as
a junior at pit ninety three speed in college football

(21:19):
twenty twenty six, third best among the running back position
in this class. And most importantly to me, Derek regional
qualifier in both the one hundred and two hundred meter
dashes incompetitive in the competitive state of Florida. So he's
someone who he hasn't gone out like Thompson and you know,
absolutely taken over and won these events at the state level,
but he's at least been a regional qualifier. He knows

(21:39):
how to get off the blocks quickly, which sometimes that
can be your biggest issue, right. I Mean, we saw
guys like last year Isaiah Bond. He was quick, but
he couldn't get out. He couldn't get out out of
the gate quick And that's what you're gonna need here.
So I want a guy in Desmond Reid. I bet
you're gonna find him around forty to one, maybe fifty
to one. I think it's gonna be a long shot
play again, it's probably a point two five, maybe a
half sprinkle if I really want to get aggressive here

(22:01):
with Desmond Reid, but he's my running back flag plan.
I think he's gonna show up at the combine, specifically
in the forty. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
I think that's a good call. And I absolutely love
your call at the wide receiver position for a player
that if he's gonna have a substantive like career in
the NFL, he's gonna have to be not only because
of his speed, but because of his return ability. So
I mean, just tell everybody who you call is a
wide receiver, dude, because I freaking love it.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, it's Barry and Brown.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
This is a guy coming out of LSU, small guy
right five to eleven point eighty five, kind of this
newer style of player, and like, don't get twisted. This
isn't someone that I think is going to have a
decorated NFL career at anything other than returning. He led
the SEC in return touchdowns for three straight seasons, and
he has the most all time in the SEC, now
the sixth most in college football history. As well, when

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this guy gets the ball in his hands on hun
a return, like, you better watch out because he is
a straight line speedster. He was actually twenty four sevens
Sports number one speedster in college foot ball for the
two straight seasons, allegedly has hit twenty two point six
miles per hour while at Kentucky before transferring here in
his senior year going to LSU ninety nine speed in

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college football twenty twenty five. Back to back state champion
in the one hundred and two hundred meter dash in
high school in the state of Tennessee. His ten point
four to nine seconde hundred meter times also the third
fastest in Tennessee state meet performance history since nineteen eighty five.
So I honestly think while I want to have probably
at least a full unit on Thompson, like Barrion Brown,

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he's someone if he doesn't get the respect he deserves
in the books, Derek, and he's sitting out there at
five six, seven to one, I think he's just deserving
of a look.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
And I think there's some way do you think he
opens a five? Because I was kind of like I'm
sitting here like mulling over odds in my head as
you're making the case for him, like, would you be
surprised if he's like plus three hundred, Like that's kind
of where I'm no, Yeah, I bet he opens like
plus three fifty. Do you think I'm wrong with that? No?

Speaker 1 (24:05):
I could see that I might be being a little
bit soft on the line, just because like there's another
guy that also in this class we're not really gonna
talk about with Toumba Zacharia Branch coming out of Georgia,
Like this is also a speed freaks, Like it's really
to me these three packs of wide receivers that I
think can do the most damage in this event.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
So depending where, like I could see them if.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
They want to put the good thing is if they
put him at three to one, they're probably not putting
Thompson even money like I thought they maybe could they
then maybe Thompson's coming in two to one, maybe Browns
three to one, and then you see Branch around that
four and a half to five to half number.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
That's kind of how I see that. I kind of.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Feel like, and this is just me reading trying to
read the room with and again everybody like look once
that they drop odds and stuff on this wherever you're
betting it's at, you'll see these out there. But like
the way that I'm kind of reading the room, and
it could be wrong. I already kind of see on
social media people talking about Branch and how fast he's
gonna run. I honestly think that, like, if you're looking

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at how the odds might move and how they might
open with this, I think Barry On Brown and Branch
might open with very similar odds. But I think if
you're looking at one guy that could get more steam.
I think the group think could go in the direction
of Branch, and I think that could leave Barry On
Brown as like one of the better values on the board.
But am I reading that room wrong? Like do you

(25:24):
see it opposing for me? No?

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Because Barry and Brown, as we talked about, he's not
someone highly decorated in this class, right, Like.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Oh, he didn't get a lot of buzz down there.
So it's like you put that in another guy that
versus the SEC school and the helmet scouting, and then
everybody starts talking about him and blah blah blah blah blah.
You know, So again, just trying to read the room
before we get out there, making bits.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
No, absolutely, and like Branch is someone from a devy standpoint,
Derek who has he was a USC commit. He went
to USC for the first few seasons and just had
a lot of steam behind him. I know some of
the Sharper DeBie managers were actually trying to get out
of him before he transferred to Georgia with Gunner Stockton
at quarterback because they were a little worried about how

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he would perform.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
And like, but he's he's.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
In more known name barring Brown is kind of the
one in this entire mix. Like while Brennan Thompson was
kind of underrated till this last season. Like if you
watch any SEC ball, you know Brendan Thompson now right,
you still might not know Berry Brown specifically because LSU
was not must watch television at the end of the
season with Nuss hurt and banged up and just underperforming
in general the whole Brian Kelly firing situation. So you're

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right that he could be really a dark horse that
people weren't talking about as much.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yeah, and especially when you put all of this like
in trying to I guess encapsulate all this kind of
stuff and try to read the room and stuff like that.
You could see more steam on a program or a
guy coming out of a program like Georgia versus Lshu,
And you just talked about how much stink is coming
off of their season. Yep, you try, like everybody talks
about it like Okay, well, that stuff's not going to

(26:57):
make into the betting market. You're kind of wrong if
that's how you believe it, because, yeah, the good vibes
of like okay, this guy and this guy and guys
you're betting on and stuff like that, people remembering what
they did or did not do in the last collegiate season.
It does. It transposes itself. It does.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
And speaking of players who did some stuff in their
last collegiate season, Derek, let's go to the defensive player again.
You're probably going to see markets out there, definitely for
the fastest cornerback, and you also can see likely defensive
line odds and linebacker as well. And you're heading to
that defensive line market with a guy I'm very familiar

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with here up in Happy Valley hashtag we are Penn
State baby, well, of course.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
And I had to hop into the the outline before
you could grab him because I figured it was one
of the names we were gonna be talking about here.
Ran I had to get to the list before you
got into it, because I was like, Oh, he's gonna
go Penn State. There's no way actually two Penn State
guys that I'm going to talk about here. Yeah, I
had to get into here before you did, so you
couldn't consider a wax poetic. But Zain Durant's a freak man.
He's been on the Feldman Freak List for three years

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in a row, So anybody that's been following any of
this is not gonna be surprised. But just to put
really some respect on his name. Man six foot one,
two hundred and ninety pounds. This man has reportedly run
a four six six forty at that size, So let
everybody just let that sink into your brain. A four
to six six forty, a wide receiver forty at almost

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three hundred pounds, has supposedly hit twenty one point one
miles per hour, has a four point four to three shuttle,
has broad jumped almost ten feet nine ten vertical jump
reportedly at thirty point five he could bench over four
hundred and twenty five pounds and power clean three forty five. Yeah, dude,

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he's a freak, total freak.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah, I mean, he absolutely is.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
And I know shotput is not an event we'll see,
but he actually placed eighth in the State of Florida's
shotput competition in twenty twenty. So he's someone that allegedly,
this guy can bench forder and fifty five pounds.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
So I'm here for Zane Durant.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Man, he's someone who definitely like he's not going to
get the same buzz as some of the other defensive
prospects in this draft, specifically because I mean we are
coming off a season where Penn State just I mean
we had guys littered across the entire defensive line, and
being the defensive tackle you usually just don't get the
same buzz as the edge players do, right, And so

(29:29):
I think Zane Durant is someone who I think he
will be a Day two Draft Capital type of player
here and I'm looking forward to seeing what he can
do in Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
So yeah, I think that's a great call from you.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
We'll see what other defensive tackles and for I think
it's almost more impressive that he's a defensive tackle, Derek
and not an edge where you specifically think that there's
going to be some of the more quicker, more explosive
athletes well.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
And the other thing when you're reading the room on
these markets, the other thing that to consider too is
taking some of these guys because in the sense of
a little bit further more outlier bets. Because here's the
other part about it. The guys that are at the
top of the class and if they can't help themselves
with like in terms of draft stock and really improve

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their standing at all, or they don't view it that way,
or their agents are telling them that. The other thing
you could see is guys are going to opt out
of certain drills and they're not gonna run. So that's
the other thing when you're betting some of these markets
and you're looking at oh fast, is this fast? Is
this player this and this? Some guys will opt out
of some of this testing, and so some of these

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more long shot bets should be having better odds when
you're talking about okay, well, if this guy doesn't run
and that guy doesn't run, then you're getting better odds
because the market and the books are assuming that they
will test. And if these guys were taken out of
the pool, then other players would be shot up the board.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Seth Yeah, yeah, I think Durant someone need to know.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Of course, Deny Dennis Sutton, he's going to be likely
one of the higher Penn State players drafted. Uh vega
Ione he's going to go in the first round as well,
So those are kind of like two of your top
premier guys out of Happy Valley here. But he's definitely
someone I want the Pittsburgh Steelers, Dad, because we need
to stop the.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Run a little bit better.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
And Derek, I want to go to the cornerback market
with my next pick, and it's a player that I
think he could be a little overvalued, So just keep
that in mind because he is such a high profile
name now. But it's DeAngelo Ponds out of Indiana five nine,
one seventy so severely undersized, right, and like that's going
to be what really hurts him in the NFL draft
when it comes to April. But to me, like I

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don't think he should be like like outside of a
first round pick, to be honest, Like this guy first
Team All America honors his past year, first Team All
Big Ten honors the past two years for the Hoosiers
won the Florida state titles in the one hundred meter
and two hundred meter dashes during his senior year, ten
point four to seven time for that ninety four speed
in college football twenty twenty six. Again, I just finished up,

(32:05):
or I will be finishing up. But I made the
pick in my first mock draft that will be coming
out in fantasypros dot Com site this week, and I
have him going to the Seahawks at the end of
the first I think he's that type of player. I
know it's a hot take because most people have him
in the second, third round, but I think Ponds is
gonna elevate his draft stocks starting this week at inding Indianapolis,

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where he eventually has the fastest forty.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
That's a good call, man, love it.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
We saw it last year Maxwell Harriston, right, who I
don't think a lot of people had him as a
first round pick, and then he went out and just
lit a blazing forty and you know, people were all
about him in the betting markets and then afterwards as well.
So D'Angel Pond's a guy like a lot.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, And to your call, and something we haven't touched
on yet, the NFL can say they don't double count.
The NFL absolutely double count speed. It double counts the
forty time, like yep. For everybody that says they don't, Okay,
then look at Worthy, look at Golden, look at all
these other guys like you brought up first, and look
at all of these players, look at John Ross previously,

(33:06):
like all these players that go out and run fast
forties and it bolts them up boards. It shouldn't. This
happens every damn year, dude, and it's going to continue
to happen because just the NFL man.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, whenever the first round to be a first round
pick betting Market's open ponds is a flyer because I
bet he's gonna probably come in somewhere around forty sixty
to one. He'll be worth a sprinkle on my card
for sure, Derek. Let's go to the other skill position players.
I have one more quarterback that I would like to
find some action on. If there is a fastest quarterback market.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
It's kind of.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Iffy whether we get it every year because there's usually
not a ton of quarterbacks actually running the forty. But
if there is a market for that, I think Haines
King out of Georgia Tech is certainly worth a look,
and I will I will preface by saying, this is
like one of my favorite college football players of all time.
I've been a huge Haynes King, huge Georgia Tech fan.
Actually had and one Georgia Tech championship future before the

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season started, which looks pretty good about They started out
the season eight.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
No, it looks pretty good.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
But Haines King, twenty twenty five Player of the Year
for the ACC, led the conference in rushing touchdowns, finished
fourth in rushing yards with nine hundred and fifty three
and that's among all players, not just quarterbacks. And he's
actually tied with Tayling Green for the fastest speed among
this classes quarterbacks in college football twenty twenty six. He
has ran an alleged four to four five forty in

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high school. He has put on some weight since then
and some muscles, so keep that in mind. And also,
while he wasn't a you know, one hundred meters two
hundred meter dash guy, he did run the four hundred
meter and he was also on the four by four relay,
which usually Derek, that's where you put your fastest kids.
Some of your best athletes are the ones who are
running that four by four. It's the event that usually
ends the track meet. The entire teams, they're hyped around it.

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And this is the guy from Haines King and Haines
King who's from Texas too. Again, so this is a
big boy state when it comes to premier athletes. So
Haines King he's worth a look, I think if you
can get him really in any market because he's a
freak athlete.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
All the way around.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
So Haines King, Georgia tacks someone I'll certainly have eyes
on this weekend as well.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Derek Brack, very good call, dude.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
I started to put my official rankings together last week,
and Haines King's up there right now. He actually has
a chance, I think to be my QB three, which
I know that might be hot, but I think he's
a baller.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
So you got this quarterback class, you really like have
to stand on process and stand on the guys that
you believe in and stuff because there's so many different
names and I think you're gonna find a million different
ranks of these guys, everything from QB two to QB
ten And we're gonna get to that later in this process.
But I think you're gonna see varying, varying rankings of

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everything at past QB one in this class. So I
don't hate that.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
At all, Derek.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
I want you to take me the tight end position,
where you have a trio of guys you're looking to
potentially sprinkle on depending their odds, and this is one
of those. I have to say, Derek, it's very, very
hard to hit this one every single year because it's
usually like a Tucker Craft that kind of comes out
of left field that we weren't really expecting to absolutely
blaze one down. So you have two players that people
might not know the name, and then one who I

(36:15):
think the entire draft and fancy community is lower on
than they should be.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, man, I mean, look, everybody's gonna be familiar with
the name Eli Stowers. I mean he's getting first round buzz.
I don't think he goes in the first round just
to throw it out there to people. I think you're
looking at probably like a Day two guy, like second round,
maybe third round, depending on how teams to him. But
his name has to lead the conversation because look, again,
going back to Texas, we've talked about a lot of

(36:41):
players that have run really fast times from in the
state of Texas. This guy is a six to a
high jump champion, has an eleven three rumored broad jump
thirty nine inch for twenty one point four miles brower
on the GPS, And really all this comes down to,
like that athleticism and testing like a total freak is
going to be imperative for him to have the draft

(37:02):
stock that again, going back to all of this and
just an overarching view. Out of all of these positions,
the one that is most highly correlated to from top
shelf athleticism to top shelf fantasy outcomes and outcomes in
the NFL is the tight end position. Dude, Like we
can debate all this stuff about corners and quarterbacks and

(37:22):
running backs and wide receivers and blah blah blah blah
blah blah. You do not see any SCHMOE athletes become
all pros at tight end. It does not happen. So
that's why I wanted to take these three pack of players.
It started out with Stours because if he doesn't test
as a total freak, which I anticipate him doing so, yeah,
then it's going to affect his draft stock. Man and

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going down the board here two to other tight ends
that could surprise people a ton in how they test,
because again you're looking at consensus rankings and the top
three tight ends, four or five tight ends of this class.
You're not going to see either one of these guys'
names in that list at all. But John Michael Johnborg
out of Wyoming. This guy went to the Senior Bowl

(38:08):
high school basketball standout, had only one season of football
entering college. Under his palty six y five two fifty
twenty one point six miles per hour on the GPS
rumored thirty seven inch for ten to eight broad he
could squad five hundred pounds bench three point fifty. Again,
we're looking at guys that could really blow up the
combine and improve their draft stocks, or honestly, some people

(38:32):
could be hearing some of these names for the first time.
He's definitely one and the other guy here Again we're
going back to Penn State and Penn State. I mean, dude,
we can go back ten fifteen years keeps producing like
just these mutant athletes, these guys where it's like you
go back to the Mike Gesekis of the world, and
like even like THEO Johnson ran fast like all of

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these guys and going to the tight end position. Man
like Khalil Dinkins out of Penn State six bro he
is rumored supposedly has run a four five forty twenty
one point eight miles per hour ten foot broad he
could bench four oh five. Like, this is another Penn
State guy that is an uber ridiculous athlete. And you

(39:14):
look at the counting stats, it's not going to give
him any love. But he could put his name on
the map and going to the combine and just showing
like bro, yeah, like he's a crazy athlete.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
I mean we've seen in the past, right, we saw
THEO Johnson a couple of seasons ago seemingly come out
of nowhere and absolutely put yes, put.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Himself on the map.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
And the interesting about Dinkins is like he was not
he was not a good player at Penn State.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Like he was.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
He was a good enough player that he was on
the roster for four years. He was committed to our program,
which I really really appreciate him. But after Tyler Warren
left last year, like Luke Reynolds was supposed to be
the real big thing at tight end. He of course
has betrayed us and gone down to Virginia Tech join
a former head coach that we don't really care about
up here anymore see James Franklin. But but Dinkins was

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a guy who you know, he was a third tight
end most of his career, including this past year. But
when he got the ball in his hands, he was like,
like you sneakily saw it. You're like, man, he's athletic,
Like I want to get them to get the ball
to him more. And you mentioned it, man, whether it's Tyler, Warren, Breton, Strange,
theo like a tight end. Jawan Johnson was a tight
end at Penn State at one point in time, actually

(40:26):
a receiver because we didn't know he was a tight
end because we underutilized players like that. But there are
some freaks to come out in here of Happy Valley
and circling back to the Eli Stowers conversation as well, quickly, Derek,
I think there's a good chance if this guy shows up,
like you're predict predict projecting, and I'm predicting as well.
I think he's tight end one in this class, I
really really do. And I think he could be a

(40:47):
first round pick. But I think a strong performance at
Indianapolis is going to have to carry him there because
you're the John Mackie Award winner and you have so
many years of production. The you is as you know,
is he a tweener?

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Right?

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Is he a guy who's gonna play three downs? Or
is he gonna be Dalton kincaid and get taken off
the field. Because even though he played in that run
heavy scheme down there in Vanderbilt where they're doing like
their take on the triple option offense, he still wasn't
a great blocker. He still wasn't used as a blocker
as much as you would like to see.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
And that's that's the biggest thing. And we'll discuss him.
We're gonna have you know, positional breakout episodes and stuff
like that where we dive into each position. Those are
coming up after the combine. But you know, so not
to give too much way right here, but dude, he
has to test as a top shelf, has to has to.
If he doesn't. First of all, I don't think he

(41:39):
goes in round one. I'll just I'll throw that out
here right now because of the blocking issues, and that's
where like, you know, yeah, canny block how teams view him.
I just think like outside of Dalton Kincaid, if you
look at the bucket or the five of them of
skill sets, the athleticism, the receiving upside, these guys typically

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are not first round picks, even second round picks. Like
we're talking about we're going back to yesteryear of I mean, dude,
the same conversation we could be had and he got drafted.
Nowhere near the top two rounds of the NFL draft
for Ronde Gatston as well as Harold Fannin and Harold
Fannon is nowhere near the athlete that he last ours is.

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But talking about that tweener model jehem Bell from previous years.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Like jem Pell, this is that type of like skill
set where it's like, how does the NFL view him?

Speaker 3 (42:35):
He will not pay off on all of this hype
and draft stock and projected draft capital if he doesn't
test as an elite athlete. He has to test and
check those boxes to have a chance. If he doesn't
do that, no shot, he goes round one to round two.
No shot.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely agreed with that and very interested to
see how these tight ends as a whole perform. It's
one of those positions that really feels like after the
top two this year, there's a lot of debate or
any of these guys either even worth rostering in a
dynasty format, even on your taxi squad.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
We shall see.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
We're coming off one of the deepest tight end classes
I think we've seen really in the modern history of
the NFL. So to be determined, I would say with
this twenty twenty six rookie class, Derek, before we keep
it moving, a real quick reminder all those audio version
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(43:34):
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Speaker 2 (43:48):
But just go ahead search.

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Speaker 2 (44:10):
We'd really really appreciate that, Derek.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Let's go ahead and jump in and round out the
show with who we think should be a riser this year,
and also maybe who deserves a second chance, And let's
start with that small school player that you think has
the greatest chance of just crushing the combine this weekend
and maybe forcing himself into a top twenty prospect conversation
at their respective position.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
I mean, first of all, I'm gonna lead this off
with he should already be very adamantly high in ranks
and he's not being given enough respect that wrote him
up as a sleeper in a group article for Fantasy Bros.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Last week.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Ted Hurst, Dude, I'm not gonna stop talking about him
like I think he's gonna run fast, Like supposedly he's
got a previously laser time four point five point. I
think he blows that away his film. Like the longer
that you do prospecting, the more that you get an
idea of like a guy's film and stuff like that,
and feeling that that speed and urgency in their film.

(45:04):
I think he's gonna run in the four fours. He's
got a rumor ten to a broad six point nine
to three to three cone. This is the guy. I mean,
look for everybody that's not familiar with Ted Hurst man,
like we talked about him in previous episodes. This guy
coming out of Georgia State. The talent is real. I
think he's going to put the numbers up next to
the name and really start to build some more hype. Dude, Now,

(45:25):
that might not mean that he gets drafted higher than
the third round of the NFL Draft. And everybody keeps
talking about as they get more and more into this class,
like how many names are you hearing on a weekly
basis right now? Seth of Like, oh, this wide receiver
could get drafted in the second round, the second round. Bro,
there's only thirty two ten in the second round and

(45:46):
everybody getting drafted in the second freaking round. So I'm
not telling you that ted Hurst goes to the second round,
but could he inject himself into a the late Day
two conversation and go in the third round. Absolutely possible,
but he needs to have a solid combine. Now I
think he's gonna do it to do so, But what
are your thoughts on Hurst? Before we move over to
two highly touted names that I don't care about their

(46:09):
testing and I think they're gonna be just fine in
the NFL, what are your thoughts on Hurst?

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Hurst is someone again for being someone who is a
ranker and an advocate for the Group of Five conferences.
He was virtually an unknown this coming in this process.
For me, he really was. I wasn't in a big
Georgia State backer. It wasn't a big better for them.
But right now, based on the conversations we've had in
the past, based on what I've seen as well, that

(46:34):
ted Hurst should be in that top twenty conversation already,
I haven't at wide receiver for sixteen. Currently in my
rankings for that wide receiver position, he's behind guys like
Zachariah Branch, Chris Brazl, Chris Bell, kind of those like
flyer types of Hey, I had one or two years
of production, or I'm worth betting on the skill set.
With ted Hurst, you're kind of betting on the skill
set right, You're betting that he can buck that narrative

(46:56):
of the small school situation and really put himself into date,
because that's the toughest thing, man is, like, you kind
of have to be someone who either flashed crazy numbers
from the group of five like enter Harold Fan and
Junior from a year ago, or you have to have
an absolutely crazy combine performance where the metrics are just
popping out of the page and making you go there.
I think it's gonna take a lot for him to

(47:17):
go on day two, but I think this is the
type of situation in Indianapolis where he can really put
himself on the map a little bit further than he
did the Senior Bowl, where hey, you get a lot of
buzz down there as well. In Mobile.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Yeah, I agree, man, and I could see him going
in round three. I think, you know, most aspects, he's
probably a Round four player, and you know he's gonna
be living and competing in the same kind of fotom
as like guys from bigger schools, you know, like Jacobe Lane,
like you talked about Brazlov, even Kevin Coleman, Junior, Eric mccavister,
like all these different guys. Yet Brendan Thompson. He's gonna

(47:50):
be probably competing with him, because Thompson's probably not gonna
be a guy where unless the team is absolutely ridiculous
and we go down the Indian Isabella to two at
Well Trained and they go the second round and you
should drafted there, Thompson's a guy that's probably fighting for
the same type of draft stock in the fourth round.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
YEP, Dion Burks, those are kind of like the other,
like you know, speedster type of names I think can
be in there. The thing about ted hursty is way
more production than all of them. You just have to
stomach there. Did come on one of the absolute worst
programs in the country, So Derek, let's go ahead round
out the program with your do not overreact to candidates.
These are the players that you shouldn't. You know, you

(48:27):
think that should not be overlooked due to their impressive film,
but they potentially will not be popping at the combine.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
They're not freak athletes by any means.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
I want to start this conversation off with the fact
of I it's not that I do not care at
all about forty times for wide receivers, right mm, but
to me, hint. The benchmark of what is usable and
feasible run a four to six or lower. That's all
I give a crap about, Dude, I don't care. One

(48:57):
of the most over dramaticized and over inflated crap for
wide receivers is the forty time And this happens every
single year. And I can go through a litany of players,
the Cooper Cups, the DeAndre Hopkins, the Puka Nakuas of
the world, where it does not matter what you're freaking

(49:21):
forty time is. And I'm saying this only in the
sense of, like, fine, if we want to have a conversation,
I don't want you running where we're timing you with
a damn sun dial and you're running a four to seven,
that's fine. I'm not discussing that. But I'm talking about
are you a four or five guy? Are you a
four to six guy? A low four to six? Cool?
I do not care, seth. And the two guys that

(49:44):
are going to fill this column up are Omar Cooper
and Elijah Sarratt, the two guys out of Indiana. They're
not gonna test as other worldly freak athletes to run
four three forties and all that's kind of crap. And
we're gonna be coming out of the combine and everybody's like, oo,
their first round player. I you won't hear any of

(50:04):
that buzz. And honestly, if I was the agent of
either one of these players, I would specifically tell them,
do not test unless we know documented. We have times
in our back pocket that you are good at. And
that's maybe the short area agility stuff for both of
these guys, and that's about it. And if that's the case,

(50:26):
or the jumping metrics, yep, outside of that, don't test.
Don't hurt your draft stock. Don't go from maybe being
a second round player to a fourth round player because
you went out and the NFL's double counting where we
can see on your film, you're a good player, you're
a good route runner, you're a good wide receiver. You're

(50:46):
not going to go in out there and test as
an other worldly athlete. And guess what, it doesn't even
freaking matter. It doesn't matter. But now that one of
these guys are gonna test amazing, and if some foolish
agent allows them to go out there and run and
do that and hurt their draft stock, I don't even
know what to say, Man, But neither one of these
guys are gonna test great, and I don't freaking care.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Seth No, And I specifically don't care with someone like
Elijah Sarratt, which he I've detailed him is in my opinion,
one of the most pro ready wide receivers, if not
the most pro ready in this class. But it's not
with that his athleticism that he wins with, man, it's
just the fact that this guy is a mature, complete
wide receiver. He's great in past protection and like, really

(51:30):
the routes he wins on Derek, it's your comebacks, it's
your curls, it's not your Hey, you gotta go straight
line speed route someone up and get down the field.
Omar Cooper Junior, I think he probably will run opposed
to Serat because he was at one point known as
a deep play threat before this last season. Especially you
look at his out routes, Man, he is nasty with it.

(51:52):
Go back and turn on the National Championship game, he
routed up some really really good Miami Hurricanes corners. So
I expect Cooper to test specifically because also, like I
think this guy can jump out of his shoes too,
we saw that Penn State catch that we talked about
a couple weeks ago. So I think Cooper could have
a little bit better of a performance than maybe you do, Sarato,

(52:12):
like right now, and again, I know him the high
guy here at the company, and I don't think I'm
gonna be backing off this, like unless Boston or concepts
On really blow me away this weekend. He's my wide
receiver for he's ahead of Boston conceptsy On And maybe
that's crazy, sat. I am, yes, I'll say it as
you said in the past, say it with your chest.

(52:34):
I think Elijah sarat I don't think he'll be a
first round pick, but I think he'll be an early
day two type of guy. So that's kind of where
I am with them. I do think Cooper is a
little bit better performance. But to me, like, I know
you're still kind of sifting through your ranks, but do
you have these guys as top ten players. I know
you you touched on Cooper's pencil sleeper that you really
liked when coming through not only his tape but also

(52:55):
some of those advanced metrics we are keying in on.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Yeah, I mean I think the top five or locked
in for me these two guys right now in my
early ranks, and again, like I've still got to go
through Chris Bell, I've got to go through McAllister. I've
got a few of the other wide receivers branch and
what have you that I need to go through, and
I need to finish my evals for But right now
as we sit recording this today, Cooper and Serat are

(53:19):
kind of fighting for wide receiver six and wide receiver
seven on the board. And I got to finish Cooper's
tape later today and where I'm going to be back
and I probably, honestly, I haven't watched Sarat since before
Senior Bowl, so I'm comparing these two, and these two
guys are probably going to stay hugged up next to
each other in my rankings. I want to do my
due diligence and go back through Sarat's tape again so

(53:42):
I get a fresh look after watching Cooper and figure
out where I'm going to be with these guys. But
it's probably going to be one one of them is
wide receiver six and one of them is wide receiver seven.
And I'm probably honestly gonna fight with myself throughout the
remainder of this process. But to your point, man, like
I do think that Cooper does test as the better
athlete the two. I won't be surprised if Cooper comes

(54:03):
out and runs like a mid four five forty, right,
and I think he's gonna jump well, so you know.
But again to that point, nobody's gonna be hyping him
for running a four or five. If anything, people will
ding him for running a damn four five. Yeah, and
I'm gonna say it again, it doesn't freaking matter. And

(54:24):
if you think forty times or the end all be
all of whatever for wide receivers, I just I question
where where your process stops and ends straight up? Yeah,
I absolutely, especially again, there are receivers that lean on
their athleticism, right, and we need to see it from them.
But there are receivers like the Omar Cooper juniors, and
it's specifically the Elijah Sharats of the world that they

(54:46):
do not and I do not care about it one bit.
So Derek, really great discussion here, man.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
I know we're gonna have a ton more of NFL
Combine content coming out between the Fantasy pros, the Fantasy
Grows Dynasty, and the betting Pros channel this week on YouTube,
so make sure y'all are plugged in or right there.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
That is going to do it.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
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Speaker 2 (55:16):
Take care of y'all. Enjoy the combine.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
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