Double Coverage: Draft Pick Valuations, Trade Discussions, and Chat Q&A (Ep. 266)

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's going on everybody? Scott Bogman and Pat Fitzmorris back
to do some more double coverage, Dynasty double coverage on
Fantasy Pros. Today. We are in the discord with everyone
to answer some Dynasty Fantasy football questions. Fitzie, and it's
right around the corner, my friend, it is the locomotive

(00:23):
is pulling into the station. We are almost ready to
take off on the twenty twenty five season. We have
preseason in the rear view. We just had cutdowns like
an hour ago as we're recording this, so your final list,
all of your final drafts are coming up, and we
are ready to rock and roll.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
My friend, it's crazy that this is I guess the
last week of the offseason, Bogs, And technically it's week one.
It just like a few days away. Yeah, it's wild
and I can't wait. Man, Like the run up has
been we need new data points. Sick of talking about
the same things and reciting the same stats that I've

(01:03):
recited forty seven times.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
I know we're doing the mid Round show the other
day and I was like, I mean, I'm trying to
pick different names, but these are the names I like here.
So we're trying to make it a little different. But
we are ready to go my friends and excited to
answer your questions here today. If you guys have never
joined us, it's a lot of fun. You just go

(01:27):
to the Fantasy Pros Discord. You can jump into the
rooms with these experts like FITZI and Andrew Erickson and
debro and everybody and get your questions answered. So let's
kick it off. FITZI, we have in the chat here
CFC fan Herbs and Cheese. CFC. You are going to
be first. What do you got for us? My friend?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Guys?

Speaker 1 (01:50):
How's it going good? You ready? You ready for the season?

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Oh yeah, big time. I mean I'm a Browns fan,
so it's like not the most exciting season.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Ready for the fantasy season?

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah exactly. Well yeah, on that note,
i just sent my roster in the chat there, and
I'm looking to get a running back before the season starts,
and thinking about Isaiah Pichecko potentially kind of going into
year two of a rebuild, but also feel pretty good

(02:20):
at basically every position other than running back. So yeah,
do you think Pachecko's worth like a twenty seven second
or twenty six second or the guy could also use
a QB and I have justin field, So if there's
something there, then.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, I mean I think that fields is worth more.
I would want more than Pachecko for fields and a
super flex even a ten minute. So like, if I
get Pacheco and a pickback, I might do that, But
I think the second round pick is great, Like if
you can get that deal done, I think it's awesome.
But fits I think for Pachecko it might cost both

(02:57):
those second round picks. Are you with me on that?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I kind of think so if you could do it
for a single second round pick, that would be wonderful.
But especially just the way he has looked in the preseason,
it does seem like he's back, and you know, like
came back and play on a broken leg in two
and a half months last year. So I'm giving him
a mulligan for the poor late season showing. And yeah,

(03:24):
it's probably going to take a little more than that CFC.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
Okay, cool, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
I was on a but yeah in early second so
I wasn't sure if it would be like an overpaid
potentially if that's like pick twelve or thirteen next year,
But yeah, sounds like I might need just a little more.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
What we've got, Vincy, would you give up that? Because,
by the way, I love when CFC puts his roster
in the chat. It's so easy to look at and
bunting and made comment he was like, this is how
I'm doing my roster. This is way cleaner than anything
I do. So props on that, But I would you
trade that twenty twenty six projected late first round pick

(04:05):
for Pachecko? Or is that too much?

Speaker 2 (04:06):
FITZI h too much that, So my.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
First of any nature is too much for Pachecko. I
think that's a pretty good line to draw. So I
just wanted to see where you're at on that and
how far I can push it. So I think it
would be more two seconds. I don't think I would
give up a first either in a dinoceialy because I
do like Pacheco and I think he's in for a
good year. But if he doesn't have a good year,
I think this is kind of it. So we're at

(04:31):
a teetering point for Pachecko here, and it would not
be shocking to see the Chiefs draft somebody next year.
So I do I like this idea because you. That's
the one spot that you're missing in this rebuild is
running back. But just make sure you don't overpay. I
would say, that's all serious.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, but it is nice that CFC is pretty laden
with picks in twenty twenty six. While I wouldn't want
to give up by the way, just yeah. And while
I while I wouldn't want to give up either of
those first, you know I could see a second and
uh maybe the projected late third or a second and

(05:09):
I don't see if you could interest him and Roman
Wilson or a tank Dell twenty twenty six comeback something
like that, Like there should be enough. I think you've
got enough little ways to grease the skids and a
deal that offer a second and maybe some little throw
in change. Get yeah, perfect can change.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Awesome.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Appreciate it, guys, you got a CFC. Appreciate you, my
friend Matt. Let's see who do we have up next?
Herbs and cheese? What is going on? Herbs and cheese?
How you doing some guys?

Speaker 7 (05:46):
I'm doing good?

Speaker 8 (05:47):
Uh so have a Kipple roster management questions So just
dropped my roster in a chat yesterday. I was able
to capitalize on the Terry McLaurin news. So I traded
him to the Jane Daniel's owner for Calvin Ridley, and
then I got his twenty six and twenty seven first

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for my twenty six and twenty seven seconds, So I
moved up around in the next two drafts plus getting Ridley,
So that was definitely a smash except right on that
kind of offer.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yes, okay, lord, Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 8 (06:22):
Felt pretty good about that, but thought Ridley, I mean, Nick,
Laura and I would rather have for this season, but
I didn't they see that big of a cap between them.
So so with that, I have three twenty six first
this year, my own and then two other pretty good teams,
so I think they will be at least middle to
late picks. But how do you feel about trying to

(06:44):
hang on to your own pick just in case things
go south? Like in that situation, I'm definitely willing to
move them with my roster looking like a contender and
a TE ten team, But like, do you try to
hang onto years if you have multiple picks just in case,
like Chaser, one of.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
My studs goes down?

Speaker 8 (07:01):
Uh, and kind of be more stings you with that
pick and more willing to deal off other people's picks,
or do you try to hold on to the one
you think is maybe going to be highest, no matter
if it's your own or not.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
I hold on the one I think is going to
be highest. Like you know, projections go out the window
once the season starts, right, so you'll have a better
inclination as to where your team is going. But looking
at this roster, dude, you're deep all the way through.
This is the time to push your chips in. I
feel like, so when you're deep like this, when you
can afford to trade these picks and make them moves,

(07:35):
you know, do it. And when you're when your roster
is deep as well, I think I would you know,
try to upgrade starters as well, because I feel like this,
you've done a great job putting this together, so now
it's just time to work those assets. And like fits
makes the point, like, yes, we want we want the

(07:55):
picks for the most part, but if you have a
chance to win now, you're pushing those chips in. You're
not waiting a full year to use that pick. You
want to use it now. To kind of try to
make it so to me, when I have a loaded
up roster like this, I'm willing to trade all my picks.
So are you the same way, FITZI.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, I mean I get what Herbs and Cheese is asking,
and I have fatalist tendencies myself, but like that's kind
of I feel where herbs and Cheeses comes from. Real quick,
hold on, Yeah, it's really good.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Josh Allen, kyron A, Marion Hampton, Ceedee Lamb, Nico Collin,
Straight McBride, Ricky pier Saw, Brian Robinson like where the
weakness is what Brian Robinson maybe, like maybe we're upgrading
at that point. If I can take b Robin a
first and make that flex spot sing, That's what I'm
doing because this bench, like you have upside in Charbonnay

(08:51):
and Braylan Allen and Josh Downs and Tory Horton, like
this is a pretty the bench is you know, maybe
it needs a little work, but the starter's fair. Are
you very good?

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah? So, I mean, I just I get where you're
coming from, Like as an insurance policy in case your
season goes awry and you know you'd feel terrible about
having given up a top three or four pick. I
don't see that happening with you. And I think I
would just try to like really assess the rosters your
roster against the rosters of the teams whose picks you

(09:26):
have in the first round, and just try to do
an honest assessment about where you think those picks are
going to be and negotiating any deal involving those picks.
And the question, yes, I think it's very yes, yeah,
it's very safe to project yours I think as a
bottomn half if not very late first round pick in
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 9 (09:47):
Okay, well appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (09:49):
One trade I've offered that the guy's kind of gone
back and forth on looking at his roster, I thinking
he's rebuild, so I offered him to first plus DKY,
just kind of as the player for Cede lamb uh. Like,
I mean, those are like the types of moves I'm
trying to make, obviously, with so many picks and a
roster like this, trying to get up to the really

(10:09):
big name guys. But uh, I don't know how high
you'd be willing to go for Like another guy that
looks like a rebuilding roster has Saquon like just two
picks by themselves, two pix in a player like how
much you'd be willing to give up to get to
those guys that could be the difference makers for me
to kind of push me over the edge.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
I mean, you're you're offering to first plus DK for
CD LAMB.

Speaker 8 (10:33):
Yeah, which is I mean in any calculator, it's so overpaid.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
But I think that the wrong roster herbs and cheese,
because your roster's really too you have a lot of depth.

Speaker 7 (10:41):
Yeah you did Earl H Bad so it's.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Murray Walker, Chase Brian Thomas, Tree McBride, Drake London, Javonte
DK and Trevor Lawrence because I was like that roster
had Cede lamb.

Speaker 10 (10:52):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
So my bad on reading the wrong, the incorrect roster.
But this roster is outstanding.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Still a different outstanding roster.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, yes, another really good one. So yeah, you're you're
you're making the right moves and you're asking the correct
questions or and cheese.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
So yeah, I don't think it's an overpay. No, I
don't think it's an over I think that's where the
bidding has to open.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Maybe slightly, but I if you're overpaying slightly for a star,
I'm doing that. So you know, I'm willing to overpay.
When I'm pushing the chips in just a little bit,
I'm not going to get ripped off. But overpay helps them,
doesn't hurt me enough to matter if I get a ring.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
So yeah, I put it this way. If I were
the other person, I'd at least consider that, and I
wouldn't consider any if it was one first and a
k like not even thinking about it, Like that's a
snap reject.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, yeah, I just maybe you can turn that into
a second instead of a first as all. But I mean, when,
like you said, when push, hit, shove, uh and he
says no, that has to be a first, I go, okay,
you know, I'll give, I'll kive so, but agreed, I
think it's the right offer, doing it the right way.
Herbs and cheese for sure. Before we get to our

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Speaker 10 (13:42):
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see f C QC Big Chief. What is going on,
my friend?

Speaker 7 (14:08):
How's it going guys?

Speaker 11 (14:09):
Good?

Speaker 1 (14:09):
How are you?

Speaker 7 (14:11):
I'm doing well?

Speaker 9 (14:12):
Doing well?

Speaker 12 (14:12):
A long time listener, first time calling in, so I'm
pretty excited.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
That's a killer. By the way, you should call more often.
You should also read audio books.

Speaker 7 (14:20):
I think, okay, well, thank you.

Speaker 12 (14:24):
So I tried to drop my my roster in the chat,
but for some reason, I think it just went to
general or something I had. I had a trade on
the board for Lamar Jackson and a second and I'd
be giving up Tee Law and Chase in a third.
It was a little too rich. I felt like I

(14:46):
just kind of wanted your opinion on it. I countered
with te Law and Harrison and a third, uh, to
see if you would just do that for Lamar.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
I think your counter is the reasonable.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Is that Chase? That's Chase, Jamar Chase or Chase Brown?

Speaker 7 (15:00):
Yeah, Jamar Chase.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Sorry, Yeah, I'm definitely not doing the first one. That
is an overpay second one. I think it's fair. Is
it enough to get Lamar? Maybe not, but I think
it's fair. What do you think, Fitz?

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, I mean if if he if the other person
doesn't take that one, Jeff I, I you have made
a good faith effort and it's fine to walk away.
Like Trevor Lawrence, you know, a credible starting quarterback, and
Marvin Harrison a really you know, a guy who everyone loved,
who was the top pick in some drafts last year.

(15:38):
Well not super flex, I guess, but yeah, like, and
I'm sorry, what was the pick you were going to
throw in? In addition, to Lawrence and Harrison. It was
a third for Lamar in a second. Yeah, it was
Lamar in a second, but that was with the Chase
in there and all that. So what I chuntered but
was just it was MHJ. Lawrence and a third for Lamar.

(16:04):
All right, I personally think that's a very fair offer.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, I think it's fair. Like I said, does it
get you Lamar? Maybe not? So maybe you need to
add a little more, change out one player, but it
ain't gonna be I'm not changing out Harrison for Chase.
That's too much.

Speaker 7 (16:20):
Person I go a second, Like would a second be
too much?

Speaker 1 (16:23):
I mean, I think even at first would be fine.
It's probably too much. But if you're getting.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
I'm not throwing. I'm not throwing in a first.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
I think I think a first is too much. I like,
if I were to throw a first, like if that's
the only way I could get that, you would have
to say, like, look, I'll give you this first, but
I either need a first back later or I need
a second back for next year as well. Like I'm squeezing,
I'm getting something else. Maybe it's a tight end you need.
Maybe whatever you know, a bench player, you need, I'm
getting more than just Lamar if he insists on her first.

(16:55):
So when you're going back and forth, that's the way
I would look at it. Like you know, for Fitzie,
the hard line on this trade is I'm not giving
a first as well as Lawrence Ann Harrison. For me,
I would be willing to give the first, but I
have to also add something. Fitz Where are you on
that if if he gets something back, if he switches

(17:15):
that from a second to a first, from a third
to a first, if he gets a second back and Lamar,
does that tip it over for you? Or are you
just hard lined on not giving up that first?

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, I mean maybe, like I wouldn't want to give
up the first, but you know, if Jeff is in
win now mode, then I get it. But yeah, I
would want another piece thrown in if I was going
to part with the first for that, But I would
try it with the initial offer of Trevor Lawrence Marvin
Harrison Junior and a third. Be willing to bump up

(17:50):
the third to a second. And you know, then if
you're still not getting anywhere, maybe try to bump it
up to a first and see if you can get
something else. Back as Bogman suggested.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
Okay, awesome.

Speaker 12 (18:01):
I pulled off a boat Nicks and I sold bo
Nicks today for Jalen Hurts and a third so I
have a little bit of extra capital.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
So I was I was just wondering, that's a good deal.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
That's a great deal. Though.

Speaker 7 (18:15):
Yeah, I really do like Nicks, but I was like,
I got to take that.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
So you and you and Herbs and Cheese need to
go into hiding together because you guys are pulling off
bank heists here the trades. We have the law enforcement
trying to track you down here.

Speaker 7 (18:32):
All right, awesome, I appreciate you guys, Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
And by the way, don't be a stranger.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Chef not chief. I think everybody knows I can't read.
That's not a surprise there. Hokey, what's going on? Hokey?

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Hey guys, ho's going good?

Speaker 1 (18:48):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (18:49):
My friend?

Speaker 7 (18:51):
All right?

Speaker 3 (18:52):
So Prop my team and the chat fits has already seen.
He's given me some feedback in the A. So going
into our.

Speaker 11 (19:02):
Our rookie draft, I had the one O five, but
I really my running backs at that point was were
Taylor and b Robbs. I really wanted to move up
and get Henderson. So I've sold out a bit on
twenty six to move up and get the one O
three as well, and grabbed Henderson, and my one O
five came along. Travis Hunter was without a doubt the

(19:23):
best player available, but I already have BTJ, So my
first question is and I already know where fit stands
on this. He told me I should I should trade Hunter?
Ericson told me I should keep him.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
So Bob's you get, you get to break the time.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
So I guess my question would be, what are you
getting back for Travis Hunter.

Speaker 11 (19:44):
I don't really have any firm offers. I've gotten some offers,
but they weren't good enough. I had an owner off
from me Pickens, which I wasn't gonna do straight up.
I was gonna go back to him and say how
about Pickings and a number a second round next year,
but then he pulled his off first. I don't know
if he's interested anymore. I don't have anything definite. I've
got another owner. I was thinking about offering maybe Ridley

(20:05):
and twenty six first.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, that's I think that's fair right there. Ridley and
getting the first back is a good deal for you.
I think I would be willing to pull the trigger
on that. But also, like, I don't know your your
two best bench players are Piersall and Hunter right now.
I think I might hang on to him just to
see if his value explodes he does. Yeah, I think

(20:30):
I might do that. And because.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
You're unbothered by him having BTJ and Hunter on the
same team.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, I am, especially in a Dynasty team like both
you know, I mean the Bengals have you know, uh
Higgins and uh Chase. Like I, if Hunter is good,
he's going to be good no matter if BTJ is
there or not. So I understand that that's bye weeks forever, right,
Like that's annoying, But I don't mind having well, I.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Mean, it's not bad, dude, it's just having a start.
Like if Hunter is good and playing two guys at
the same time, like, there won't be many weeks where
they're both smashing for one hundred yards and a touchdown,
you know what I mean that?

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, I understand, but you know you that knife cuts
both ways, and if they're good, they're going to have
more good weeks and bad weeks, So I like, I
don't I just don't care as much as most people
do about that in particular, right because.

Speaker 7 (21:34):
I had I.

Speaker 11 (21:36):
Had Metcalf as well, and right after a draft ended,
I moved you Robin Metcalf to get Chase Brown in
a twenty six second win. So I was pretty pretty
happy with pretty happy with that one. So now I've
got Jonathan Tyler, Chris Brown and Henderson and BTJ, Garrett
Wilson and Hunter plus Piersoll. So yeah, and the bye

(21:58):
week's line up pretty well. Also, though you know the
weeks I can't play BTJ or or Hunter, I'm still
in decent shape.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
I've got Wilson and compare sol.

Speaker 11 (22:09):
Let's not let's not trade for somebody else that's I
think I'm I think I'm feeling okay with it there,
but I would have just kind of feeling do I
want to have both?

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Do I want to have both of those guys?

Speaker 1 (22:18):
And listen, I don't like, I'm not going to die
on a hill for saying that it's okay to have
two guys on the same team. It just doesn't matter
to me that much. So if the if it's something
that bothers you, uh hokey, then I try to trade him,
But I I think you will get more value after
he puts like a couple crazy performances up. You know,

(22:40):
now you can immediately lose value as well. So it
is a risk waiting, sure, but I understand. I think
it's a risk I'm willing to take. That's all.

Speaker 11 (22:48):
Hey, well one quick trade question. So I've got another
owner because I have JT. He's offered me gettings for
a combination of picks, which I don't want to get into.
I happen to have Sean Why as well, and he
has Bucky.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
So fair what do you think about?

Speaker 1 (23:05):
I would much rather have Giddens, So if I had
to give like a third or yeah, I know, straight
up I'm doing it. But if like I want Giddons
enough to maybe at a little, you know, at a little,
that's all? Uh fits are? Where are you with that?

(23:27):
Because I actually kind of like Rashade White. I don't
like the fact that he's starting the year with this injury,
but I think he's better than a jag Like I
think he could end up in a good situation next year.
We kind of talked about that on the show. Are
you do you think that's a fair straight swap or
do you want more? On one side or the other.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
I think it's pretty close to a straight swap. In
the last Dynasty trade value chart we had, we had
White valued higher nineteen value points versus eleven for Giddons.
But I think with Giddons having clearly taken the backup
role and with White now banged up a little like,
it's probably going to be pretty close to even in

(24:05):
our next edition of the chart.

Speaker 13 (24:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (24:08):
What I was thinking about was going back to him
and said, Okay, I'll trade you White in your third
rounder next year for Hiddens and on my third rounder
next year and Giddins in your third rounder, which basically
means I would go from the end of the end
of the third next year to the beginning.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
I like that. Yeah, I think that's fair.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
It's a it's a fair ass bit of push came
to shove. I just take the straight players straight.

Speaker 7 (24:33):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
I don't even know if you'll take that or not.

Speaker 11 (24:35):
But it felt like it might be a good move
given given the fact that I have Taylor and it
seems like Giddens is pretty well established himself, and uh,
well I have you on then I'll run, I know,
probably if I've got a weakness on the team here
and Fitzy, you you actually pouinted that out in the
in the A M.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
A is tight end.

Speaker 11 (24:50):
And I've tried so many different possible scenarios to try
to improve the tight end situation with some of the
other pieces I have, But it got the guys in
my league hord tight end. It's like his tight end preangum,
even though it's not. I've got a couple of teams
that have four.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Tight ends on the roster that wait for wait for
them to lose a running back or wide out and
make you move.

Speaker 11 (25:11):
Yeah, that's kind of what I'm thinking. I mean, at
this point, I'm gonna I'm gonna ride with and see
what happens. I picked up Hunter Henry. I saw a
lot of good stuff about having made likes them, so
I'm hopeful that could be a good thing as well.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
So then you gotan Sanders too, so you got You've
got some irons in the fire at least.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Right, that's right, Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Hope you guys score so much the tight end doesn't.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Matter right exactly should be.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
I think that's what it was last year. So appreciate you,
Hoky uh. Thanks Before we move on here. Let me
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up next? Here? Looks like we got Jung. What's up, junk?

Speaker 10 (26:15):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (26:15):
There we go? Hear me?

Speaker 1 (26:16):
We got you? What's going on?

Speaker 9 (26:18):
Oky? Cool? Well? First off, I just want to say
go boss. Also, I've just got a pretty simple threat
for you. I'm in a super flex dynasty talk too.
I'm at the gym, and I.

Speaker 14 (26:35):
Have my four qbs are Jalen Hurts, Sam Donald, Caleb Williams,
and JJ McCarthy. I have to put one of them
on the taxi squad because it's a three QB lemon
and we can put sophomore qbs on the taxi.

Speaker 9 (26:50):
So I just want to know what you thought between
Caleb and JJ.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Oh Man. Now, the taxi squad, you just can't. You
have to drop somebody to bring them up to the roster.
It's not like there are some leagues where people can
take your taxi squad players. This is not one of them, correct.

Speaker 14 (27:09):
Right, Yeah, once the season starts, they're locked on the
taxi or no, you can take them off, but you
can't put any back on.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, okay, yes, exactly, all right, fits, I'll let you
answer this question first.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, I mean I think I'm probably rolling with Caleb
on my active roster and McCarthy on the taxi.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
That was my first instinct too. I do have Caleb
Williams a little bit ahead, and you know, obviously there's
so much there for him. But you're not going to
end up with both these guys on the taxi squad
the whole year. I think you're either going to try
one or somebody's gonna get hurt and you'll bring one
of them up. So this is a good problem to have,
for sure.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
A super Yeah, and they both I was looking at
the early season schedules and they both have early decent
early season schedules. Like you know with JJ, I mean
you might miss kind of some juicy matchups with Atlanta
in week two in Cincinnati in week three, But I
don't know other than that, Like I just everything is

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in place for Caleb Williams right now, the play caller,
the offensive weaponry, the offensive line, like it's gotta happen
for him now, yes, none whatsoever, So hopefully he's ready
to roll. Whereas you know, we could forgive McCarthy for
a slow start his first taste of NFL regular season action.
No excuses for Caleb, so I would hope that he

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would have the better season, but who knows.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Let me ask you this, how many Like what does
the wire look like in a super flex league where
you're only allowed to roster three? Do you have qbs
or is everybody stashing them in the taxi like you are?

Speaker 14 (28:50):
Well yeah, so yeah, if they're in the first two years,
they're most likely on the tax secen unless Jane Daniels,
you know, but yeah, because a nobody's hordinate and I
kind of like it.

Speaker 9 (29:05):
But so I'm looking up the wave wire right now, like.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Are there actual starters on the road with Okay, so
flat go's there? Daniel Jones is heck no, no.

Speaker 14 (29:17):
Daniel Jones on the It's basically just Rattler and Flacco
there that are available right now, and I think Rattler's
going to get picked up tomorrow when Ravers run.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
I bet you you could get a lot from McCarthy
if you traded him now. Not that I'm saying like
that's a move you have to do, but I would
at least, since you can't really roster three or four,
excuse me, I would float and see what you can
get now for a quarterback. And then whenever a quarterback
goes down, you know you're going to be the guy

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that they come to looking. So just just have a
trade ready for these guys when their quarterbacks goes down.

Speaker 9 (29:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (29:54):
See, I was I was hoping maybe Donald attell still
hot start, but I know I still probably wouldn't get
too much for him, you know, comparison. But yeah, I
think i'd like for your heads out with j J.
Because I feel like this guy's a limit for him.
That's what everybodysted predicting him to be amazing, So I
feel like like he can only do what everybody's expecting

(30:15):
or be worse here right, Maybe it's a good time
to tell him, yeah, it.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Could be, so I would at least see what you
can get, because if I can add a starter to
the roster in a league like this, I think I
would so appreciate the question. John, great question, my friend. Yeah,
thank you, you got it. Let's see you do we
have next here?

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Fish actually were going to try to bring Legit back
up since he was trying to get on earlier.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
And yeah, uh legit, We'll bring you back up and
see how's the internet interwebs now, my friend.

Speaker 9 (30:46):
Can you guys hear me?

Speaker 1 (30:47):
We got you?

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yes?

Speaker 15 (30:49):
Okay, awesome, Yeah, I was I was trying to do
in the car before Stana was going on there.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
But I know this is a dynasty chat. But I
had a keeper league question. If that's fine.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
It's a three keeper league.

Speaker 15 (30:59):
Okay, So I have the first overall pick and my
keepers are Jacobs, Marvin, and t Higgins, so kind of
lacking in terms of like no superstar wide receiver. I'm
obviously going to go gent first overall, but then I
have my regular picks at the two three turn. But
then I also have the two ten, so I have
the two ten, twelve and the three one, so I'm

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kind of looking at the wide receivers I want to fall.
I want to get like Takens or Jamison Williams, guys
like that. But my home league's pretty wide receiver heavy,
So I'm wondering is that too early to go guys
like egg Buca and Pearsol. I just kind of like
them better than you know, like Zay Flowers and those
type of guys.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
So I guess, so you're asking in a keeper, are
you going to take egg Buka and Piersol over guys
like Zay Flowers. I'm guessing like maybe Courtland Sutton is
in that group as well. What are your thoughts on that, FITZI, I.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Think it is too early for Piersaal. I would possibly
do like Buka there. I've got like egg Buka ranked
like wide receiver thirty two in Redraft, but like I
know some smart people who've got him and like as
low as white Earth that's high in the rankings. I
should say it's like wide receiver nineteen. So yeah, like

(32:12):
I wouldn't argue with doing a Buka there. I think
it's a little rich for Ricky Piersoll.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yeah, I have a range of like seventeen down to
like twenty nine here, which is Addison, Flowers, Davonte, Pickens,
O Dunse, waddle Worthy, Metcalf Hunter at BUCA, Rice Jamison.
You know, so, I think taking anyone out of this
group is fine. Uh So if you like Agbuka over

(32:41):
z Flowers, that's fine. Understand it's a risk, right because
it is uh we Zay has an insanely high floor. Right,
he's capta in production because the Ravens run the ball
so much. But he he does have a high floor.
So just understand the risk you're taking. But I don't
think it's I don't know if I would take him

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over Za, but it's not an insane proposition.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Legit, I gotcha.

Speaker 7 (33:08):
That makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Thank you guys very much.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
You got it, my friend.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Thanks man.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Uh good question. And let's see next is rigged? What's up? Rigged?
How we doing going on?

Speaker 10 (33:21):
Guy?

Speaker 13 (33:21):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (33:22):
We got you?

Speaker 16 (33:23):
Hello?

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Can you hear us? You can't hear us? Bark twice
if you're in Milwaukee, Man, I don't think he can hear. Sorry, rigged.
I'm gonna move you back to the audience and then
we'll see if he can figure it out in a
little bit. Here franchise. Uh oh, here comes trouble Fitzie.
If he can get his mic working.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Dude, franchise.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
There we go, There we go. Gotcha. It's up. How
you doing doing great?

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Doing well?

Speaker 13 (33:55):
Man?

Speaker 2 (33:55):
How are you don't.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
I'm winning that league?

Speaker 17 (33:58):
I told you guys about with all those draft picks
and ended up picked up four for twenty six already.
But I got a similar question to the taxi question
I was asked earlier. So getting towards the end of
my end of our basically our off season draft and
the current quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
I have let me switch to the right league.

Speaker 17 (34:18):
I currently have Joe Burrow, Jayden Daniels, Block Party, and
Anthony Richardson. And then in our draft, I was able
to pick up shirdor Sanders.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
So it's getting towards the end.

Speaker 17 (34:29):
So I'm thinking about taking another flyer on another quarterback,
ause we have to put two in our taxi, and
the door was going to be one of my taxi spots,
and I was thinking about putting Ar on the other one,
but I was wondering if I should put Ar in
there or the quarterbacks I'm looking at that are still
available Dylan Gabriel, Zach Wilson, Mac Jones, Prey Lance. So

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I didn't know if I should grab any of those
guys and throw them in the taxi instead.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
No, or you know, it's still rich over all those
guys like so okay, I like what trade what we
saw from Trey Lance in the preseason, And Trey Lance
is a dude that like, he just had no reps
in college, like, so it was unrealistic to expect him
to be amazing in the NFL. But he's not even

(35:18):
close to the upside that a rich has Because a rich, like,
if he doesn't make it happen with the Colts this year,
he's going to get traded. He's going to be in
a quarterback competition next year, probably for Pittsburgh, and you know, uh,
it's going to be annoying to me, but his value
is going to go up. We just see it with
first round picks, specifically guys picked in the top ten.

(35:40):
Zach Wilson still has a job. Sam Darnold got his
hundred million finally from the Seahawks. So I just think
a rich is still going to be around.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
He's a better person for the text.

Speaker 6 (35:51):
So if I'm putting him.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Out a lot of meat on the bone to grow.
So he just because he's down now doesn't mean he's dead,
I guess is one of right.

Speaker 17 (35:58):
Yeah, so if I'm putting him in Sanders in my
taxi spots, then like the other players, I could probably
pick up I mean, I could pick up any one
of those quarterbacks still just have him sit on my
roster in cases of injury. But I'm also looking at
maybe like a guy like TODJ. Brooks, maybe giving Troy
Franklin another shot, even Isaiah Bond, or even going for
a reach.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
But maybe maybe even Darren Waller.

Speaker 17 (36:18):
So I didn't know how you guys felt about those
type of guys.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Do you like?

Speaker 1 (36:21):
I like the rookies? What do you think?

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, Brooks, Brooks are Bond are both interesting? Okay, this
would be my first two I think.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Off the roster like immediately, which is yeah, that is
I thought Bond was Deonta watching him at Texas like
they're kind of a similar playing.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Glad you said that, because I was wondering about that,
like when when they cut Deontay today, I'm like, that
seems like a pretty good sign for Isaiah Bond. Yeah, yeah,
maybe maybe he's maybe he's the higher upside guy to
get than Tosh Brooks, and I like Brooks those guys, Yeah,
all right, yeah, so.

Speaker 17 (36:58):
I'm just I'm getting a guy about ten more picks
before or it's mine. But I guess which every one
of those two guys in avail the box to grab
one of those two, then.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, I would do that. Yeah, I like hunting for
those quarterbacks for sure.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, over mac Jones and Trey Lance, guys have already
kind of failed and you know, probably aren't real long
shots to hit at this point exactly.

Speaker 17 (37:16):
I was, Yeah, I was kind of kind of leaning
towards mac Jones only because I have heard he as
my third quarterback, so but then again, he's my third quarterback,
so if he goes down, I still got the other two.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
But yeah, you're you're you're sitting pretty I mean, franchise,
we have heard you build this roster. This roster is insane,
so well you can tell you this is how you
know people are building good rosters because they're asking questions
about the bottom of the rosters. You don't need any
help at the top. You did it.

Speaker 17 (37:43):
It's if it makes if it makes you feel better
bog for this draft. I ended up getting Travon Henderson,
Braylen Allen, Ted McMillan, Jalen Noel, Jack Besh.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
And Tyler Warren.

Speaker 18 (37:56):
Oh.

Speaker 13 (37:57):
Yes, and none of those guys are starting except for
Tree John Henderson.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
This is how you do it, this is how you build.
Franchise has taught us so appreciate. The question is always.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
It's all you guys.

Speaker 6 (38:09):
It's all you guys.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
I've learned from you guys. No I think you did
you do it man. That's right, that's right. We are
assistance only, but thank you franchise, glad to have you
back my.

Speaker 6 (38:20):
I appreciate you guys.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Got franchise.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
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(38:45):
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(39:07):
I think we've got two more hands raised here, FITZI,
and then we can hit some in the chat at
the end. Embarrassed, speaking of trouble here, he is? What's
going on? Embarrassed? How you doing, my friend?

Speaker 6 (39:19):
Man? How I feel like I haven't talked?

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Man?

Speaker 4 (39:23):
I know a.

Speaker 13 (39:24):
Long time, long time. Well, I took a year off.

Speaker 6 (39:29):
Hey, more important?

Speaker 13 (39:31):
First off, more important? How did you do Madden today?

Speaker 1 (39:33):
I won?

Speaker 4 (39:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (39:34):
I figured you did? You you got it number?

Speaker 1 (39:37):
It was, dude, it was go watch it if you
get a chance.

Speaker 6 (39:41):
I'm gonna make an.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Make a short of it. But it was it was.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
A back.

Speaker 13 (39:48):
Right.

Speaker 16 (39:49):
Okay, So I haven't off topic question, but still Fantasy football.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Okay.

Speaker 16 (39:54):
So two years ago and you you guys helped me
so much. Two years ago, I took the championship out
of twelve years of being in this league. Right last
year on draft day. I moved from Jersey to Florida
last summer. On draft day, they refused, Like for twelve years,

(40:16):
they refused to do a.

Speaker 6 (40:18):
Live online draft.

Speaker 16 (40:21):
So we gathered live, we gathered in person, but they refused.

Speaker 13 (40:26):
They refused.

Speaker 16 (40:27):
They had to have it hand input, like manually input
in the day after they refused to do it on
like online to live draft. Right, okay, So I moved
to Florida and they wouldn't do that.

Speaker 6 (40:42):
So I said, okay, I'll video chat and whatever and I'll.

Speaker 13 (40:44):
Do the draft on draft day. They hung up on
me and kicked me out of the league. What they
just called me this week?

Speaker 16 (40:50):
Yep, they just and I was champion, I was returned.
I was coming back to this draft as tamping. They
called me this weekend and apparently lost four different teams
asked me to join.

Speaker 13 (41:02):
What would you do? This is a what would you do? Questions?

Speaker 1 (41:05):
This is to kembe Mtumbo, my friend. Right, you booted me?
Uh and now you're begging me to try a bag
No no, no, no.

Speaker 6 (41:14):
Day and just and just hung up the phone, hung
up the video chat.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
That was the right thing to do. I feel like, Fitzy,
are you different?

Speaker 13 (41:24):
What would you do, Fitz, but I.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Feel like I'm not I'm not going back. Yeah, I'm
not going right.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
I'm thinking the same thing.

Speaker 16 (41:33):
And and when I said, do you have draft order yet? No,
to this day they still don't have draft order and
draft is on Sunday.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
What do you? What do you I'm not going in
there blind. I'm not going in there blind.

Speaker 16 (41:44):
I want to do some mock so I want to
do something, but I just don't even think I want
to do it.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah I do. Thanks man, that that's awful, especially if
you've been in that list.

Speaker 13 (41:53):
It is, right, So couple years, well fricking years.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah, one on here. Look you're in this community. Uh
you know you can find better people on Reddit, I'm sure, or.

Speaker 6 (42:06):
On I'm into the league, so I'm into lead.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah yeah, dude, like it. Do not help these guys out.
They wanted to hose you when they do so, no, thanks,
I'm dipping.

Speaker 13 (42:21):
I'm thinking the same thing. That's why I love you, guys. Yeah,
that's what I love you guys. I'll be calling back.
I'll be definitely calling him back.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Sorry about the Yeah, make it make it quicker than
a year this time in Barish, we miss you. So
I'm talking to you good good stuff. Oh man, he's hilarious,
isn't he. Uh, There's no way I go back to you.
They boot you and then beg for you back. That's

(42:49):
the weirdest time I know, a terrible Uh. Let's see
Big Ray. What's up?

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Big Ray?

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Looks like the last hand raise? And then we will
hit the questions that y'all have in the chat. Big Ray,
you coming up there?

Speaker 4 (43:02):
We go, Yeah, can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (43:04):
We got you? Can you hear us?

Speaker 9 (43:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (43:06):
I got you?

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Boom. I lost my friend.

Speaker 10 (43:10):
I dropped my question in the chat just in case
and the rollster as well. So we just finished our
trade and I figured keep pushing the chips all in,
and I made another all in move and traded Nakua
and Laporter and then my second fifth year and my

(43:31):
third next year for Jefferson, and then I moved up
in this year's draft with a second because Warren fail.
So I felt like, you know, with Kettle this year,
I went ahead and parted with that and then got
back Jefferson and then was able to draft Warren. And
then I've got another guy in the league that's wanting
one of the receivers because he needs receivers, and he

(43:54):
sees I have plenty of death and the only running
backs he really has that I'll be interested in, because
that's the only thing that I feel like I need
is maybe one other started running back in case two
or Hn goes down or something like that. He has
Taylor Connor or his third running back is get the Jacobs?

(44:16):
Since got Jake Josh Jacobs, Jonathan Taylor or James Connor.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Who he's trying to think, is there even anything that
makes sense for me? Or just Stan Patton?

Speaker 10 (44:26):
You know, obviously if I have running back injuries, the
receivers will lift me up kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
What so remind me, Ray, what was he trying to
get from you for one of these running back?

Speaker 10 (44:35):
He's just trying to a receiver of some sort. And
most of my receivers are higher end receivers, you know.
The only real young receiver I've got or you know,
lower end if you want to call it, that will
be like maybe Golden or mc laurin. But I also
have Jon Daniel Daniels. But I don't really need to
start McLaurin. So I mean, I could trade a net

(44:56):
caliber receiver and maybe go after a Connor or Jacobs,
depending on how to structure it.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
But FITZI, what would you move.

Speaker 6 (45:07):
A J.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Brown in a pick to get or a J. Brown
to get J T for JT and a pick something
like that, or I don't know, is that a fair
straight up trade because he's got a lot of the
wide receiver. He's got Chase Jefferson Brown is at the flets,
he's got Brian Thomas Junior as well, and Terry McLaurin
and Marcus Matthew Golden on the bench.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Like, yeah, just out of curiosity, right, is this a
ten team or twelve teamer? It's ten teen, it's ten, Okay,
I was gonna say, I mean it's a it's great
for a ten team, But if this was twelve, I
was going to say, like, this is one of the
best teams.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
This is this is an automatic champion in a twelve,
Like it's still might be an autowable champion in at twelve.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
As well, and like the it's not like the running
back depth is bad with Kenneth Walker and James Cook
on the bench.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Yeah, there's no so like J T.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Fift, I mean, they're comparable dynasty assets we've got I
think A J. Brown being slightly more valuable than JT.
And that's kind of how I feel. On the surface
of it, it's pretty pretty fair to exchange those. But
do I necessarily think that you need running back depth?
That's the only thing I don't know if you do.

(46:21):
I think you're pretty good there.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
I think so too.

Speaker 10 (46:23):
Reason why I'm thinking about it is because I don't
really have any handcuffs other than Bucky Irvin's handcuffs.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
On the bench, Bro, you have Bill Crosskey Maron on
the bench, like you have three, possibly at least two,
maybe three starters on your bench. You might have one
in the taxi squad in Dylan Sampson.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
He's got kyron. Yeah, and he's got kyron in a
flex spot I know spot to I mean you got enough, Yeah,
you got enough flexibility where I don't think you I
don't think you should be worrying about like running back
wide receiver balance. I think you got your stacked enough
at both at I just want to keep the more
valuable player. And I do think AJ Brown is slightly

(47:10):
more valuable, maybe slightly less risky. Eh, I don't know.
I guess AJ Brown has missed some games recently too.
The thing is, I think the Eagles are going to
throw more and I don't know, maybe klest and Iraq
can Wayne in the chat here, but like they ran
so pure last year on defense, and like we're able
to run the ball at a ridiculous rate. Like maybe

(47:30):
the defense just doesn't stay quite as healthy. It's still
going to be a really good defense. But I wouldn't
be shocked if Balen Hurts had to throw a little
bit more and they couldn't afford to run quite as
much as they did last year.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
And if it's a youth, how big a JT fan
I am? And I even have AJ Brown a couple
spots ahead of JT in Dynasty, So I think it's
a fair trade. Like like I said, Ray, if you
are concerning you really want to get a running back,
that would be the deal that I would do is
Brown for Taylor. But I don't think it's necessary. I
think you're a little bit better right now with with

(48:03):
a J.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Brown.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yeah, don't get two. Don't get too wrestless with this team.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Right, I like, because it's built this team right, So
don't sit on your hands. But these are the right
questions to ask right here, and this is uh, it's
a good question to ask, and and uh, but this
roster is insane. Dude, you've done a great job even
in a ten. Man, I think you're probably an auto
champ already. So but yeah, if you need, if you

(48:32):
feel like you need to make the move, that's the
move to make. But Fitz and I both agree it
is not necessary. It's only if you want to make it.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
So cool. Yeah, and I'll stand back. He came to me.
So I'm good and I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
You got it, my friend. Take it easy, man. Listen
to some of these voices today. These guys have these great, booming,
deep voices. I feel like I'm Alvin the Chipmunk over
here compared to these guys. So, all right, fits, you
want to hit a couple of questions in the.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Here, Yeah, let's see that. So first of all, rig
Pick said, would you rather have Seedee Lamb or Henderson
in Dynasty? I mean, it's definitely Ceede Lamb for me.
Bobs agree, yep, same yeah, Bunting. Interesting question here, rookie
running backs whose stock has fallen since camp preseason? We
should be buying.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Whose stock has dropped. Interesting question, Uh, Tosh Brooks, I
feel like is a guy that his stock has dropped
a little bit, and I think we should still be
buying it on him late. Do you think that Caleb
Johnson has dropped a little bit since Kenneth Gainwell has
been playing decent or Cam Scattaboo?

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, that is I Boggs, you are the guy with
your finger on the pulse of the Steelers. What do
you make of this? Like Kenneth gain while playing ahead
of Caleb Johnson in the preseason? Is this just like,
is this Mike Tomlin being old school and doing the
veteran deference thing? Or is this like, is he actually
gonna play Kenneth gaine Well ahead of.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
It's stupid Arthur smith Man, Like, I don't think Tomlin
really has much say in it. I'm sure he does,
but I think he like Smith? Yeah, I mean Arthur
Smith Is this is the same dude that was, you know,
uh playing god? I cannot remember who I'm thinking of now.
It was like ty J. Spears over Derrick Henry or
whoever the hell it was? Like, who was that stupid

(50:26):
running back they're playing with? Derrick Henry? Who got all
those catches with him. Oh, Dion Lewis, Yes, Deon lu
My god, Dion Lewis. When you have Derrick Henry, I
understand it. Like I think it's gonna make game. I
think it's gonna make Caleb Johnson annoying for like a month,
and after that, I think he's gonna roll because he's
the best running back on the rosters. So I that's

(50:49):
how I s play out. But it's not a nothing.
It's definitely annoying.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Yeah, if I and there was one guy was thinking about,
Like this guy kind of popped in my head when
I'm walking the dog and like, this is a guy
I should go and seek out in dynasty if like
his The people who drafted him are kind of down
on Devin Neil. Yes, like the draft capital wasn't what
we'd hoped for. And ironically, Hendray Miller is the one

(51:16):
who stayed healthy and Devin Neil has been heard and
so Neil is stuck behind Kendra Miller. But how long
do we think Kendra Miller is going to stay healthy
because the guy's literally not being able to stay healthy
since coming into the NFL. How about So.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
I just I like it was a great one because
we know Kendray Miller's not going to stay healthy, we
know Alvin Kamara doesn't have a long shelf life, and
the quarterback situation is miserable, so they're going to be
running the ball. So at some point this season, Devin
Neil should cee some action for sure.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
I just I thought he was. I thought he was
a really good college back Bogs so fascinating, Like and
I'm not, Yeah, I'm not a great scout or whatever,
but like, I love Devon Neil in college.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
How about uh Jarkuz Hunter because we Kyrie and signed
the extension, So I feel like all the momentum for
Hunter has, the wind has come out of the sails
there for him. Jayden Blue with like the ankle thing
and the uh that stuff in Tooting, I think, like
I'm still interested in all these guys. The one that

(52:17):
has lost a lot of steam that I'm kind of
not interested in right now is Judkins, and I think
that's the one. Yeah, and we'll see what that plays
out as. But it's just so weird right now. I
don't want to know.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yeah, it really is. It really is. Let's move on
to a few more Bogs. I just want to make
sure I get some of these. All right, I'm gonna
skip one. I'm gonna come back to sir Potatoes in
a question. But into the flood with the need at
wide receiver in my rookie draft tonight and the one
oh one, one, O two and one O six picks
is Jenty Tet Eggbuka the move if he's there, I

(52:52):
guess he means, if egg Buka is there at six,
or would you maybe look at Harvey or Crosskey Marrit.
I'm not taking Crosskey Merrit.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
I want to set and that's way too high, right
Like Crosson Merritt has a chance to win this starting job,
he does not have it right now. Eckler's still ahead
of him. Short yards is going to be some combination
of see Rod McNichols. So he's going to get like
series and he has a chance to get that job,
but he doesn't have it yet. So that's too high
for him. But I think, like if I could get there,

(53:19):
that's a snap pick for me at six.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Oh yeah, I totally agree with you on that one.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
What about if he's not there, like let's say genty
and Tet one two boom boom. But if he's not there,
would you rather take a uh, you know, R. J. Harvey,
Matthew Golden. I guess somebody's because yes, Harvey's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
There, and so Henderson's not going to be there. Henderson
is going three, four or five.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Hunter, then Hunter or bugag Buka is going to be there.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Yeah, so Harvey would be the fallback.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
I think, easy, easy, right, what's next?

Speaker 2 (54:00):
All right? And then Sir Potato to TV, what are
your thoughts on Chris Olave with the news he may
be playing out of the slot, was potentially thinking about
tearing down and maybe acquiring a running back in return.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
I mean, what are you going to get for him
right now? I guess is my question. I don't think
you can get a lot for Chris o'lave right now.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
I know if you were in my league, Sir Potato TV,
I would be willing to give you something of value
for him, but unfortunately I'm not.

Speaker 9 (54:29):
So.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
I mean, I think he's good, Like that's the thing,
if you if people are terrified by the concussion problems,
I would hang on to him. And like I've kind
of sort of went down a rabbit hole a couple
of nights ago and was looking at some of the
Twitter injury docs and like looking up what they have
said about Olave in the past, and it seems like

(54:50):
they're kind of mixed on whether whether despite the fact
that Olave has had five concussions dating back to his
time in Ohio State, opinions are kind of mixed on
whether he is at any greater risk of another concussion
than any player who you know, has had zero or
one concussions. Right, But I think the agreement is that,

(55:12):
like the consequences for him getting another concussion would be
worse than for someone who's never had a concussion before.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
So yeah, so there's you know a little bit of
elevated concussion risk there, but I think there's a panic
over it that maybe isn't quite warranted. And that's like,
you know, kind of kneecapped the price on him in Dynasty.
And this guy, Chris A. Lave has averaged two point

(55:40):
two to one yards per route run for his NFL career,
and that is just I think Ceedee Lamb is like
two point two eight and Jamar Chase is two point
twenty five. Is on a Lamb Chase level as far
as that goes. I mean, this guy is really stinking
good and hasn't played with a real eight quarterback yet,

(56:02):
and lord knows he's not going to this year. But like, man,
if this guy can just stay healthy and get the
Cavalry in is at quarterback, like this guy could still
be a star. So I would not trade him on
the cheap, I guess, is what I'm trying to say
with that little monologue.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
And Bunting with a great point, I'm more concerned with
Rattler throwing two him in the concussions. Like that is
a good point because they announced Ratler as the starter today,
which is so unbelievably dumb to me, Like, I guess
Shook as a rookie or whatever, but he's twenty five,

(56:40):
Like you draft him in the second because you know
he can start Week one? Right to me, that that's
why you draft him there, because he shouldn't have gone there.
I think it was this pick was resoundly panned. Everybody
knew it, so why not give him the long runway
and give him the season, let him make mistakes. No
one expects you to be good, you know, so I

(57:01):
don't know, it's just it is a It is a
wild decision to me, But maybe It's one of those
things where like, hey, look, we let Rattler fail and
look miserable. So when we let Shook out there and
he makes mistakes, no one is asking for us to
go back to Spencer Rattler. Honestly, maybe that is the logic.
That would be the only acceptable logic to me to

(57:22):
start Rattler over Tyler Shuck. But yeah, that is an
added concern on Chrys. O'lave is horrific quarterback play this year,
So I like Olave. If you want to trade him,
I get it. But I think, like Fitz is kind
of alluding to, like his talent is so good, I
think you let people see him play for a couple
of weeks, you're just going to get way more. So, uh,

(57:47):
that's kind of what I would do. I would wait
till end season to try to move o Lave after
he plays a little bit, because he's just gonna look
way better.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
So yes, all right, two last questions, Bogs, let's do
one or Amana Saint Brown?

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Oh in Dynasty?

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Yeah so close.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
I mean I could go either way, but because I
just think those may still have a couple of upper
echelon years.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
But An is so good yeah. We we have a
dynasty trade value chart at Fantasy pros does have a
mon Rah with the slightly higher value and I tend
to agree with that. All right, and final one rig picks.
Would you trade Dj Moore, Isaiah Pacheco and a fifth

(58:36):
round pick? I hope this is dynasty because if this
is redraft, then we're not, you know, answering the right question,
but it is a dynasty chat Dj Moore, Pacheco and
a fifth round pick for Bijon. Basically, would you trade
DJ Moore and Pacheck oh for Bijon? I? Would you know? Hard?

Speaker 9 (58:52):
Would yeah?

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Do that?

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Yeah? All right, let's get out of here.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
That's everything, all right, pretreciate everybody hanging out with us
and listening. Remember you can check us out Worm and
FITZI first Tuesday of every month, FITZI and I third
Tuesday of every month. Here answering your dynasty questions. Good
luck on all your drafts. Come back and let us
know how it went, and hang out with us all season.
It's going to be a good time. So that is

(59:20):
it for us. We will see you guys next time.
Take it easy, everybody.

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