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Intro - 0:00:00
NFL Preseason Week 1 Takeaways - 0:00:29
Where To Start Watching College Football - 0:06:24
Reality Sports Online - 0:12:44
Selling Travis Etienne (RB - JAX) - 0:13:59
Are D'Andre Swift (RB - CHI) & Brian Robinson (RB - WAS) Enough? - 0:16:49
J.K. Dobbins (RB - DEN) Loses Helmet? - 0:18:52
Kenneth Walker III (RB - SEA) & Joe Mixon (RB - HOU) - 0:19:49
Braelon Allen (RB - NYJ) - 0:21:25
TreVeyon Henderson (RB - NE) - 0:22:06
Madden Dynasty Startup Update - 0:24:50
Who To Keep?  - 0:27:10
Kaleb Johnson (RB - PIT) - 0:28:49
J.K. Dobbins (RB - DEN) - 0:30:37
FantasyPros Trade Analyzer - 0:32:36
Pickens & Javonte vs. Garrett Wilson - 0:33:01
Michael Penix Jr. (QB - ATL) & Ricky Pearsall (WR - SF) vs. 1.02 & Rhamondre Stevenson (RB - NE) - 0:34:14
Justin Jefferson (WR - MIN) - 0:36:50
Jarquez Hunter (RB - LAR) - 0:40:23
Outro- 0:40:55

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back. Everybody is Dynasty double coverage on the Fantasy
Pros Dynasty Fantasy Football Podcast. I'muel Scott Bogman. Follow me
on the Twitter app Bogman Sports. I'm joined as always
by Pat Fitzmorris at fits Underscore ff on the Twitter Machine,
and we are on the Fantasy Pros Discord. We are
hanging out with some of our favorites the listeners here

(00:25):
to answer some Dynasty questions. It is a lot of fun.
We had a full week of preseason happened FITSI So,
I think TYJ. Spears getting hurt was obviously pretty big.
What else stood out for you from week one of
the preseason knowing there's not a lot to there's not
a lot of actionable stuff, but there's some actionable stuff

(00:47):
for sure.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, Spears the big one, obviously, like this creates a
nice runway for Tony Pollard early in the season to
get a lot of action. And the Rashad White got
hurt that was kind of a big one. Maybe that
it's a little room for Sean Talker, who should certainly

(01:10):
be rostered in Dynasty. It's interesting to see Marvin Mims,
a sixteen of the nineteen bow Nicks snaps.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
That was really interesting. I knew I was gonna hear
from you on that one. In fact that yeah, it
may not be why I set you up for this
question right here.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I mean, like I didn't see it coming. Actually, you know,
it seemed like there's there's new target competition with Pat
Bryant and Ingram comes on the scene. But yeah, so
right now, I've got an article up actually on Fantasy
Pros twelve takeaways from Week one and Spears and White

(01:48):
are the big ones.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
R J.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Harvey you know, oh he's fifth on the depth chart. Nope,
starts at running back outsnaps. JK. Dobbins twelve to seven
on the bow Nick snaps. So yeah, and I think bugs.
We had talked about the concern for maybe Breece Hall,
with Aaron Glenn talking about making it a backfield by

(02:11):
committee just overtly all off season. Well, Justin Field's played
ten snaps and bres Hall was on the field for
exactly half of them. Isaiah Davis played three, Braylen Allen
played two.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Like, this is messy.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
I don't agree with that at all. Like, I'm sure
it's messy right now, but I think that's one of
those things. It's just like Kyle shanahan talking about taking
Christian McCaffrey off the field, and he never does it
because Breece Hall is so much better than those other backs.
I don't think it's going to be I don't think
you are going to be able to break it up

(02:46):
if you're Aaron Glenn, as much as you would like to.
So it looks nice now, right, But I do think
that's a little coach speaking. I fear zero Breesehall shares.
I'll say that, sure it is.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
It is coach speaking, Bogs, But then the actions follow
the word, and like the first starters, it reflects though Bogs.
These guys are establishing their usage patterns for the regular season,
and typically they do repeat.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
So, okay, I I I I think, yeah, I think
you want I think that's what we want to and
I think that's what they plan on. I'm not saying
that's not the plan. I'm just saying that, you know
what do they say, uh? The the path the hell
is uh laced with good intentions, right, paid with good intentions.

(03:37):
I just don't think. I don't think you're going to
be able to do that. And I again, brisall Way
or Braylan Allen way better than I thought he was
coming in, so deserves way more of a longer shot
than I thought coming in. But Brisols still really good.
So and he catches the ball so well, they're gonna
be losing so many games and playing catch up and
dump offs. Like I don't know. I just think Bristol's
really good.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, and I think so too.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
And it's a surprise to me that Aaron Glenn has
discussed the possibility openly of a backfield by committee. But yeah,
well we'll have to see what happens when the curtain
goes up on the regular season. But like I, I
would definitely have sweaty palms if I was a Breeze
Haall investor. Right now, what about some of these rookies bogs?
We saw tedt a Roe McMillan. Look, make that fine

(04:21):
over the shoulder catch down the sideline for a thirty
yard game. We saw.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
And obsessed with him. And let me tell you, I
drafted flex this morning, and your boy took Ted McMillan
in that one, so very nice. I got QBS early,
so I waited on wide receivers a little bit so
he's my number two behind JSN. So uh, he looks
like a he looks like a legit number one, and
he's going to be peppered with targets.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
And how about a the Traveon Henderson start one hundred
yard kickoff return for a touchdown, eighteen yard run on
his only carry. Three catches, only went for twelve yards,
but still three catches is pretty noteworthy. And then some
of these quarterbacks Bogs Jackson Dart and Shaddour Sanders both
looked pretty good in their debuts.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
They really did. I mean, Chadour looked awesome, really shut
a lot of people up, which was nice. He looked
real good. And I drafted Trevion too. And then also
for all of the pomp that we heard about r J.
Harvey being RB five played over Dobbins, that's weird. What's

(05:32):
going on with your depth chart when you put him
in over Dobbins? Very strange, huh.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
So yeah, the veteran deference on the depth chart thing
is just absurd. But about that Shadour start. So we
you know, Canton is basically right outside Cleveland, and they
had this party Friday night. It's at this kind of
big public square in downtown Canton. The really nice setup
and they've got a big screen there and the Browns

(05:57):
game was on the big screen, so we were kind
of all They're hanging out drinking beers, you know me
hebro k Lest and uh, you know, watching Shu Sanders
cook like that must have.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Been a great time. Man, that sounds like an awesome time.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, I'm talking to someone and then like over their shoulder,
I see Shor throw his first touchdown pass like it was.
It was a fun environment for sure.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
It sounds awesome. Well, hey, let's get to some questions here,
so let's go to k Lest. K Lest, what's up
my friend? What do you got for us?

Speaker 4 (06:32):
What's going on? Guys?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Hey? Last, great to talk to you again, buddy, Yeah, yes,
so soon, man.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
More a great weekend, I think record anyone listen hasn't been.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah. I got to hang out with k Lest and
and I Raq. I had my fill of Eagles fans man,
and uh, you know they're they're definitely feeling good after
their title. Let's just say this.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah, so a little horse you know from GM and
go birds. Whenever I saw a jersey, you know, now,
I have a kind of a like a brawl question.
And I think I was talking to somebody about it
at the EX but I think it might have been
between Seth and they mentioned you box. But like trying
to get a little bit more into college ball, Like

(07:20):
I watch a little bit here and there, but it's
like it's so big and there's so much of it,
Like I don't even know where to start or like
who should I be watching, you know what I mean.
So I'm sure I could, you know, scour the web
and find a list, you know, but I don't know
if either of you guys had any points for that,
you know, as far as kind of where to start looking.
And you know, I guess just come to the web

(07:41):
for a list of prospects, you know, just looking for
some advice there, I guess.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's a great question. I would
start just with the power for conferences, you know, the SEC,
the Big Ten, the Big twelve of the ACC those
were all your best players are. And with the transfer portal.
You know, a guy has a really good year in
the G six, he's coming up to the P four
pretty quick. He's moving his talents upward, right, so the

(08:11):
best talent coalesces in the best conferences. So those are
the games, Like you want to prioritize on Saturday, right,
you want to go watch your you know, Fox kickoff
with you know, the big game in the Big Ten
to start, like this year is gonna be Texas and
Ohio State. There's a lot of prospects in that game.

(08:31):
Then you know, watch your big teams in the like
the ACC this year, Clemson is going to have so
many pros. Uh, they're a really good team to watch,
So uh do that and there's interesting games, you know.
The further down you go and you can there's all
kinds of places with prospects lists. Obviously, you know PFF's
a big one. I think two four seven has a

(08:54):
nice list as well. So you get like one from
the professional side, one from the college side in terms
of prospers list too, so you know, and there's like
lists are opinions. They're gonna start forming more. And this
is specific right with this class, and Fitzy, I'll let
you attest to this as well. The front is so

(09:16):
mixed up right now. We have no idea. We know
the quarterbacks are gonna be good, but we don't know
the order. There are some good running backs but there's
gonna be some that rides to the top. We have
an array of good wide receivers, but they're kind of
you know, there's not like a consensus one for a
lot of guys. So there's gonna be a lot of
moving in this year specifically, So I would yeah, you know,

(09:41):
and the best way to start is just start, you know,
just start looking at stuff, start reading stuff. Pick a
podcast you like, pick you know, an article you like
or a website you like, and uh, just start firing that.
That's uh what I would go with. What do you
what do you want to add?

Speaker 2 (09:58):
There is a great site that I am on a lot,
especially in the run up to the draft called NFL
Mock Draft Database, and yeah, they aggregates mock drafts I'm
all over, and you know, they have got a really
good list either overall or you can break it down

(10:19):
by position and just you know, listing the top guys
based on these early mock drafts people have done. And obviously,
you know, things are going to be volatile right now
because there aren't a ton of people doing mock drafts.
But it gets a little more nailed down as we
get into the spring. But for now, it's a great
list of just people to track. Like if I'm looking

(10:40):
at the quarterback page right now and there are five
guys listed as top twenty prospects and everyone's kind of
assuming Arch Manning, it's not coming out. So it's a
kid Klubnik of Clemson, Leonora Sellers of South Carolina, Garrett
and off Smeyer of LSU, Drew Aller of Penn State,
and Fernando Mendoza the University of Indiana. Know where my
son is about to be a freshman.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
So came from cal last year.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Very good quarterback, Yeah yeah, And actually Indiana's got some
really interesting prospects all over the place, serat wide receiver.
So yeah, So that gives you a good idea just
some of the names and teams to keep an eye on.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Real good.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
I'll see a.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Highlight or a good play and it's like, oh, man,
like is he even coming out? How close is he
coming out? So right, right, I got I got a
bookmark already. I'm on here with you.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, that's a good sight. So you can get you
can get a nice base there. So thank you. That's
a great question, Kayles, Very very good, especially right before
the college season for people that aren't diving in. So
thank you very much. Man, you got any anything else
for us? Or is that the main crux there?

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Yeah, it's pretty much it. Man, go in here and
say how do you guys? And uh yeah, I was
just thinking about that.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
You know.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
It's only my Yeah, I'm only going to my third
year playing Dynasty, and uh college football is always kind
of been like a background thing. So if I want
to be a good Dynasty manager, I should probably pay
a little closer attention to college.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Right, that's right.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Get your wife always to it.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Because Saturdays get crazy sometimes, Like you know, I see you.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Make sure you get her into it too, So that way.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Her out there seven am for the parade.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Get her into college too. That way she will appreciate
watching some of those games on Saturdays. So appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
It's always uh yeah, it's always a good excuse to
lie on the couch on a Saturday.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
I'm scouting. I'm scouting here.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
This is for our Dynasty team. Yeah, of course, So
I appreciate you. K lest taking easy, my friend. Uhr.
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Speaker 2 (13:50):
FITZI don't we we do Bogs a little draft on Sunday,
That's right, a little Sunday, Yes, sir, looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
If you guys want to go ahead and drop your
questions in the chat, we will. We'll just do it
that way. Where do you Where do you want to start?
FITZDC wanted to start with here.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
All right, let's uh rolled down buntings that you'll probably
answer this on your own. Bot selling high or holding
and hoping for the best from ETN couldn't sell him
at all. Last year, well, ETN was kind of an
interesting case BOGS, because we got news out of camp
that it seemed like Tank Bigsby was the guy consistently

(14:31):
opening with the ones in training camp. And then they
have the first preseason game and it's ETN playing the
first series with the start.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
I don't trust anything the coaches say. Fits.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, well, it wasn't even what they were saying. I
was actually talking to Mike Dempsey, who has a show
on Sirius XM and also does stuff for the Jaguars,
and yeah, yeah, and Dempsey was Dempsey. He has been
out and he's like it was always Tank Bigsby opening
as the starter, and he was as shocked as anyone

(15:07):
to see Etn taking the first snap. So what do
you make of this? Bugs? How are you regarding Etn
in dynasty? Is he a cell or a hold for you?

Speaker 1 (15:19):
I think he's a hold right now, and this is
I think I was seen this before we started to
bunting was it looks like he's the starter for Jacksonville.
Maybe that doesn't last, but I don't think. I think
his value is solo right now. Like, what are you
getting for Etn? A third round pick right now? If
I ask you for your if I had Etn and

(15:40):
I wanted your second round pick for next year, would
you do that pretty easily? Fits? I think that's fair,
but I don't know if it's I don't know if
it's something every manager would do.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
I would deal a second for et or I would
take a second for Etn. Okay, rather second.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
I would rather have Etn because he might start for
this you have a new coaching staff here. He's just
worth the risk right now for me. It I mean,
if I could get a second round pick in this
year's draft, I might do it, But for next year,
I don't think I would. I think I'd rather have
ETN just to see him play it out. So I
think in most cases, because he had a bad year,

(16:18):
and because there's a lot of traffic in this room,
you're gonna get low balled. And I would say, if
I'm not getting at least a second round pick for
next year, I'm not doing it. So and I don't
think you're going to get that in many situations. So
I'd say for the most part of ETN is probably
a hold for me. Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
And he's twenty six, he'll be twenty seven next year.
He hit free agency and he can kind of pick
a spot. So yeah, yeah, I agree with your take
on that box. All right, Banshee Style says running back question,
Are swift and b rob enough to hold on until
mixing is back? Or should I try to upgrade anyway?

(17:00):
Want to upgrade if I can?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
There?

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Right, Yeah, Boggs. I can not reveal my source on this,
but someone I talked to at the Fantasy Football Expo
who apparently has a mole inside the Texans.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Sounds like they're.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Worried this might be the kind of thing that could
potentially lead to an IR designation. Yeah, like this is.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
And I was disappointed I missed him in Flex today
not now.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, and like again, I don't know the uh veracity
of that report, but.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
It's kind of scary.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Man, what do you think about Swift and b Rob.
Let's just start there on this question, because I actually
kind of like both those guys, not as I don't
know if they're good enough to hold it down the
whole year, And obviously I wouldn't want to go with
just those guys and Mixing is your third, but I
think they're fine for the most part in this situation.
I think specifically what you just told me fits now.

(18:03):
I want to upgrade, and in fact, I'm kind of
willing to trade Mixing low right now.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
It's kind of the thing.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
I'm okay with those guys as as the two and
the three, but you know, if they have to be
your one and two, that's that's kind of problematic. So, man,
if if there are any designs on contending this year, yeah, Banjiet,
I think it might be worth trying to put out

(18:30):
feelers for another running back or two.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Uh yeah, I would say, see what you can do
at that position. If it's nothing, it's nothing, and it's
you know, don't overreach because of this issue with mixing,
but I think I would want to try to upgrade
a little bit if I could. So, yeah, Dobbins start,
that Harvey start because Dobbins couldn't find his helmet. I

(18:56):
didn't see that. Is that is that true?

Speaker 2 (18:58):
No?

Speaker 3 (18:58):
No, no, no, no, no, hold on on that.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
So there's a guy who does some Broncos stuff out
of Denver named Benjamin Albright, who you know, obright, yeah, yeah, yeah,
and maybe kind of fancies himself an NFL insider too.
And Albright was very convinced that Dobbins was going to
be the starter, and someone was like, hey, you thought
Dobbins was going to be the starter and it was
Harvey and Albright was basically, I don't know, maybe Dobbins

(19:25):
lost his helmet or something. So it was not actually
him reporting that. It was him speculating on why what
he had predicted did not happen.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
He's pet remember the Titans. That's what Pete did. Couldn't
find his helmet, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
So unless like that was a real thing, like I
have not seen any indication that that was.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Actually a real thing. That's hilarious. Herbs and cheese says,
is it time to panic going into the season with
Ken Walker and Mixing as my RB three and four
ten teen PPR quarter point per Carrie and he's a
contender in this league, I think you need to worry
about mixing. I'm not worried really about Walker. I think

(20:06):
this is like your natural state with Walker is you know,
fifty to fifty.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
And Walker, and if he's your three and you've got
two better than him in the starting lineup, that's pretty
solid man. So yeah, I mean, maybe you could use
a depth piece, and maybe in a ten teamer that's
more attainable than it might be in a twelve teamer.
So I don't know. I mean, you must have three

(20:34):
pretty good running backs, so you're not feeling out a desperation,
I would say.

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(21:23):
very easy to find. What do we got next, FITZI.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, Hey, let's clarify what you mean. Uh, what if
he's good enough for me?

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Oh, we were talking about Braylan Allen. I mean, if
he's good enough to push Brisaul, he's good enough to
push Brisall I just don't. I don't think he is. Yeah,
I think Bristol's a really good receiving back. Obviously, Justin
Fields is thrown to the back a lot, but I
think in this offense, if you are thrown in the back,
it's Breese. So I think he's the third down back.
I think he's the main back. I think this is

(21:53):
gonna look more of a two thirds to haul in
a third between Allen and and Davis, and I know
that's not what they're telling us, But that's just how
I see it playing out.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
So so Bunting here with an interesting observation that leads
to maybe a good question. Hunting's comment, fantasy is a
wild world. Last year, at this time, returning kicks meant
Kyron Williams was done. This year, we're all enamored by
a kickoff return from a running back. A few different situations,
but still funny.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, so a.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Good point, Bog.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Should we do we feel strange that Trevon Henderson, Like,
I know he's expected to sort of split work with
ramondre Stevenson, but should we I don't know it. I'll
be nervous that he's returning kicks or is it just
because he's really good with the ball in his hands?
And yeah, I think with Kyrin Williams, it was like

(22:46):
if he is going to be a workhorse, but any
team really have their workhorse running back returning kickoffs? And
that was why there was a little yeah, yeah, it's
just but I understand. I understand the reservations, like why
are they having their workhorse return kicks? But if it's
a guy who's in more of a timeshare, I guess

(23:09):
I'm less alarmed. By it and not really alarmed at all.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yes, one hundred percent of fair question, right, like, why
why is this to say a guy is washed up
and now everyone's amazed by it? And I think the
difference is the backs themselves. Kyron is a dude in
a system in LA that needs a bunch of touches,
right to be the workhorse that he is. And it's
exactly what Fits just said. If he's going to be

(23:34):
returning kicks, then obviously he's not going to be handling
twenty to thirty touches, right. That was just a weird
situation there for Henderson. I feel like when you look
at archetypes of running backs Henderson specifically with the injuries
that he had in college and the fact that he
was so good last year with Quinshawn Judkins at Ohio State,
he doesn't need He's built like a chan, right, You

(23:56):
don't need thirty touches from a chan for this dude
to be successful. We're between fifteen and twenty two, so
if he can get that on a normal basis, that
would be great, and you would expect it to be
lower in the beginning of the year, probably less than
fifteen to start the first month and gradually grow, specifically
as he looks better and Stevenson looks worse. So I

(24:18):
think that's the thing is eight Chan and Henderson are
the type of backs that don't have to touch the
ball a million times. Obviously the kickoff return. That's why
we're enamored because he is great with the ball in
his hands. He catches the ball so well out of
the backfield. He's definitely going to be the third down
back already, so that's his floor as a role. So
now it's just adding touches onto that. And that's why

(24:39):
we're all obsessed with Henderson, rightfully. So I feel like, yeah, agreed,
Did I go overboard there a little bit? Maybe?

Speaker 3 (24:48):
No, No, not at all.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Who's next? Who's next?

Speaker 2 (24:53):
All right? Darth Nogg had one. Hey guys, I hope
you were doing well. I just wanted to give an
update since you seemed interested at the end of the
last show. As of right now, the Madden like Dynasty
startup has filled thirty one of thirty two spots in
a week. The last remaining opening is the Titans, so
hopefully I can find a fellow Fantasy degenerator to fill
that role asap. Darth Nu get a really interesting idea.

(25:14):
What if you have a dynasty uh format with everyone
getting a team and you get the guys from that team,
But once the preseason is done and you roll into
the regular season, you can then start trading and mixing
up teams. So eventually, over time it's not going to
look like the individual teams. Everyone's going to get mixed up,

(25:34):
and I imagine people would be probably trading pretty aggressively
early on diversified lineups and not be locked into one
team so much.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Though.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
That would be interesting because I imagine the fur would really
start to fly on the trading market after after you know,
things are locked and it's it's.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Clear the Carolina must be a Browns fan.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
I'm sorry remaining Yeah, that is kind of wild. Good
dynasty value on the Titans with you know, cam Ward
I got a man or the Pollard combo.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, there's not there's a dynasty. It's a little less,
but I mean that's still much better than the foundation
what the Browns have. Because I'm do you get Judkins?
I guess it's a it's a weird question, but do
you get him or not? I guess maybe he's on
the team.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Not under contract.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
He's not under contract, and he might go back into
the draft next year because he waved his right to
a speedy trial, which means it is going to take
a little while. So I don't know if he's going
to remain on an exemption list or if the Browns
just aren't going to sign him. It's just, you know,
I don't think we get a resolution to it quick
I thought we might get a resolution to it quickly before,

(26:55):
but doesn't seem that way at all. Now that's an
interesting that's very interesting this league. So that was you
he told dark dun told you and warm about that
last week.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
So yes, yes, very fascinating idea. I love it all right.
So PTTP eighty eight says which two to keep? Not
officially a dynasty question, but we'll roll with it. One
QB League twelve teams, half point PPR keepers consume the
first two rounds and looks like No ric O'Donnell. We've

(27:27):
got Lad McConkie, Arry McLaurin, Jackson Smith and Jig but
Matt Stafford Seahawks defense, Joe Burrow, Chase Brown, Derrick, Henry
Devanta Adams, Puka Nakua, Trey McBride devon h.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Chan.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
So it's one QB not keeping Burrow.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
No, to me, this is McBride and a Chan.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Not Derrick Henry.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
I mean, if all things are being equal, right, and
it's the first two rounds every year and nothing changes,
you can keep these same guys from year to year.
Rrick Henry is great, but he's like a you know,
at this point in his career is one point for sure,
So I think I'd go to McBride, but I don't.
My initial thought FITZI was, We'll just take the two

(28:12):
best players, but he has a lot of really good
players on this run. This is a great roster for
a keeper league. So I just take the top two
dynasty and look, Pooka Nakua is interesting as well, but
what's going on with Stafford That kind of scares me.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, all right, PTTP eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
I am cool with Chan and McBride if you only
have to start two wide receivers, but if you have
to start three, I would uh Pooka in and throw
out McBride personally.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
There you go, we got you're not a McBride guy. Anyway,
We got our McBride bet.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Not a huge McBride guy, So yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
What's next, Fitzy?

Speaker 3 (28:51):
All right?

Speaker 2 (28:52):
So, uh, bugs, would you accept a question? This is
from mc tanda. My question was, if you were offered
a twenty twenty six first first or Caleb Johnson, would
you accept the software was made to him?

Speaker 1 (29:06):
No, I would want to keep Caleb Johnson.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, especially, I mean the only temptation to do it
would be if the other team's roster was just a
train wreck. We thought maybe it was going to be
a top three pick. If it's not a train wreck
of a roster, no, because then you're just losing a
year of a rookie. And you know, Caleb was a

(29:30):
late late first for most people on mid to late first,
depending on whether it was super flex or one QB.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
So yeah, that's kind of my thing is like, I
guess maybe in a super flex with all the quarterbacks
coming out, I would consider it. I just I'm assuming
this isn't a super flex. But also it's exactly what
you said, FITZI you got to wait a full year,
and who do we know at running back that is
for sure going to be better than Caleb right now?
Jeremiah Love's probably it, like for sure percent you know,

(30:01):
and he had some injuries last year, so I don't
even know if that's one hundred percent, but I would
say that he is the guy that I would say
is for sure better than him. And I can't imagine
that someone that would be in a really good position
next year in the draft would trade their first for Kleb.
So all my instincts would say no. Unless you think

(30:23):
that this could be like a top four or five pick,
then I would consider it, But I probably still if
there's any hesitation on that, I would not do it.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, So we had we had a question from go
Phils set my team in Dynasty and he specifies it
is a ten team PPR non superflex one QB looking
to move JK. Dobbins to a team that's looking to
win now based on who he has and my roster
build being in a rebuild, what's a fair price for

(30:54):
Dobbins given some of the hyperround him splitting more work
with R. J. Harvey, and also I'm thinking one of
the young wide receivers might make sense. Ten team PPR
Dynasty attached pictures of my team of earlier in the chat,
my team and the other interested manager's team a value
charts is fourteen, which matches up against eleven for Roman.
Wilson leaning there, but I'm sure if his value should

(31:17):
be higher since the chart came out a couple of
weeks ago. Interested team has no draft capital for next year,
but all of his picks for twenty twenty seven can
go that route as well as I'm rebuilding.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Okay, looks like maybe this team. Does this team need
white outs? Is that what it is? Yeah? A lot
of really good running backs and then the the whiteouts
are a little thin. I mean this second option is
who does he have here? He's got Adams and then
at flex, well he's got Ted and Waddle doesn't actually
really need anything. Give me a pick, Give me a

(31:50):
third round pick in twenty seven for Dobbins. Do you
think that's fair, FITZI.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
I'd ask for a second and subtle for a third, exactly.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a really good that's a better way
to go about it, ask you. Yeah, it's going to
be the third.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, it will be a stacked draft and there will
be good second and third rounders in that draft, and
you know, to just give this person a useful running
back in the here and now and for them to
not have take pay any sort of price for it
until twenty twenty seven. You might be able to ask
for a second.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
I'd start there.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
And then maybe see if you could get like a
third and a fourth, and if not both and maybe
just settle for the third.

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(32:55):
dot com, slash my playbook and dominate your league. E
pas all right? Fits to you? Who is next? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:04):
And just a word to the people who have raised
their hands and came in late. We are not able
to call people up. We are having a technical issue.
Discord will not let us invite people on stage, So
sorry about that. We're not intentionally ignoring you. So Jab,
he's been trying to get in question, would you trade
Pickens and Jaywill? I guess that'sante Williams or Garrett Wilson.

(33:31):
I'm trying to avoid roster cuts.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
And I love George Pickens, but I'm pulling the trigger
on that deal for sure. I think Garrett Wilson's in
another echelon over Pickens, maybe not in skill, but in
situation for sure as a number one. So yeah, I
think for me it's I'm definitely taking Garrett Wilson because
I think Javonte is probably nothing beyond this here. He's

(33:55):
got a chance to reclaim his role or whatever. I
just don't really trust him to do it. Yes, I
would go ahead and pull the trigger on that one.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
I agree, And Kayles said he heard the same thing
about Mixing after he took him at Draft night out
at like pick one ten, soppurrently that that rumor is
out there. Don't like that all right after, Matt says, hey,
guys posting team at the bottom of this message, I
have the one O two pick. I assume that's for
this year and was offered Pennix and pearsall for the

(34:26):
one O two and Remandre Stevenson this is your year
two and I've had terrible running back luck. Jonathan Brooks,
Hurt Spears hurt, Stevenson and Warren replaced.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
My wide receivers are my strength.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Should I stay at one O two and take Hampton
or Henderson or take the value in the trade except
that my team sucks? But maybe I can trade for
a running back later. Has everybody got Herbert Stroud at
quarterback and he's hanging on in Deshaun Watson? Can he
pick it for? Now? What do you think? Bugs? Pennix

(34:58):
and pearsall basically o'mary and Hampton and Romandre Stevenson, and.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
It's super flex. I don't hate getting Pennix, but he's
not you know what I think I would do this trade.
I think I would take Penix and Piersol because I know,
like the water Twoter is gonna last longer, the running
backs are the last thing that you buy. And then
I would think I would try to make another move
to get a running back, move a Higgins move, a

(35:25):
metcalf right, because the core of your team is around
London and BTJ and then Herbert and strouted as your quarterbacks.
So you get a third in Penix, which is nice.
You can even involve another quarterback and a deal. I
think this is a good deal, and I like Hampton,
But I think I would rather have Pennix and Peer
Salt together and then find a different running back to

(35:46):
trade four in a different deal.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
I agree with you, Bogs. I think it's a net
value game for Aftermatt and you know, like a solid
value again. I think it just reflected that way Dynasty
trade value chart, you know. And if you don't feel
this is a WINDOWT team and it's close, he does
have man, he does have a lot of talent. That's

(36:09):
the only thing. I mean, look at that team. He's
got BTJ London, T Higgins, Metcalf at wide receiver. He's
got those two solid quarterbacks, and he has McBride. The
only issue is running back, and he's like not getting
a solution at running back.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yeah, but I understand that. I'm just but I'm taking
it and find it a different way.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
I feel like you can always kind of reconfigure.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
I mean, we make a lot of trades in Dynasty
that and then you've got strength to deal from it
wide receiver and quarterback. So yeah, I think just bank
the profit and look for other deals.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah. Yeah, I think I'm the same. Which one is
next year?

Speaker 2 (36:52):
FITZI all right, powerfold who was trying to get in
from the start twelve team super flex tight end premium
start three receivers reigning champs, so hesitant to make big moves.
I understand that Nico owner is trying to get me
to tear down from Jefferson, was thinking about offering Jefferson

(37:12):
in a late fourth. Nico Jalen knowl the projected early
twenty twenty six first set portrayed ours owner is trying
to get Jefferson, thinking Jefferson and Laporta for Bowers and
Traveon Henderson, or I could try AJB and a mid
third for Henderson and Jacoby Myers. Any of these moves

(37:33):
hurt my wide receiver dep but my starters are top tier,
have Lamb neighbors. Jefferson, AJB Godwin is my next best,
but coming off injury. Other running backs are Bresol, Genty, Mixon,
Connor Scatabo talk me down Henderson. Owner also has h
Chan If that changes anything. A lot to unpack here, Bogs.

(37:54):
So which of those deals I.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Could get on me?

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Of them?

Speaker 2 (37:59):
You couldn't get on board with giving up Jefferson in
a late fourth, which is basically nothing for Nico Jalen
Noel in a projected early twenty twenty six First.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Nope, not even a look. I look, I like that too,
but I'm not trading a top three wide receiver to
get a top ten wide receiver. And then I don't
what is nol Right, Noel could be great, but he
also could be Javon Baker or Jalyn Polk from last year, right,
and then the first round next year, I don't know

(38:32):
what the depth's gonna look like, and I know Jefferson
is one of the best players, so I just I
can't do that deal.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yeah, And even though Bogs and I are Bowers fans like,
trading Jefferson and Laporta for Bowers and Trevion Henderson seems
like kind of a lateral move to me, at best
it's lateral.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
But also running backs don't last as long as white outs,
so you know Henderson, I don't know. And Henderson's had
injuries at Ohio State, So no, no on that one either.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, even in tight end premium, I don't
know if I'm taking the upgrade.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
More and then like it's more tempting there, but I
wouldn't do it there either.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
AJB and a mid third for Traveon Henderson and Jacoby Myers,
that one's fine. Yeah, I'm okay with that one. Yeah,
you get a serve a serviceable wide receiver back for
AJB and Traveon Henderson. If you're trying to improve your
your running back depth, then he does a mix in.
So that's like, that's the one I think I would

(39:31):
consider our fold. And I think that's a perfectly fair deal.
I don't see that as being a profit for you.
But if you're worried about running back and feel like
you, you know, have the wide receiver depth and the top
JELF guys and you can leverage that a little, I
don't mind it. And and Myers is still a guy
you could play in a pinch. I think I'm okay

(39:53):
with that one.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
I yeah, I feel lukewarm about that one. I don't
like the other ones. That's what I would say. That
one is fine. Yeah, I wouldn't do the other ones.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
And Iraq is totally on board with us. I just
scrolled down and says a reply, the first one no,
the second one no. The AJB one I don't hate.
And this is coming from and this is coming from
an Eagles fan, mind you So like he's he's willing
to trade ajb away in that one. So cool.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Some crowd consensus here, I like it.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Also, Jab, is Hunter still worth having in Dynasty? With
Kirn's new contract.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Having yes, expectations should be lowered, I feel like, because
obviously you could have been fighting for a job next year.
Maybe you still will be, you know, because running backs
are you know, they go by the way so real
quick after they get hurt. But it's less and less
likely so valuable, yes, as valuable, not even close with you.

(40:54):
All right, all right, wrap it up for us today.
Sorry about technical issues on the back end, but remember
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(41:17):
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