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Join Ryan Wormeli, Pat Fitzmaurice, and Scott Bogman as they highlight 10 dynasty breakouts that you should be targeting ahead of the 2026 NFL season!

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Football Podcast.
I am Ryan Warmley, joined for the first time in
months by Pat fitz Morris and Scott Bogman. Fellas, we
are so back. Our in season hiatus is over. The
three of us will be coming at the listeners once
a week all off season long, talking rookies, talking dynasty breakouts,

(00:25):
which is what our conversation today is going to be about,
talking drafts, all that super fun stuff. I'm very excited Fits.
I've been talking to you all in season anyway. Bogman,
how are you doing.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I'm doing great. Worm. It's it's a beautiful time to
be alive in twenty twenty six. Very happy. Uh And yeah,
season has treated me well, so I'm doing really great.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
How do you How did your dynasty leagues go this year?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Uh? Dynasty leagues were not great. I only won one
title and it was the Fantasy Pros Content League, So
I beat both of you clowns, and I've won that
league back to back years. Surprisingly, lost in the championship
in out of bounds league, lost in my home league
championship to the Welsh the worst terrible. My season was good,

(01:13):
though a lot most of my teams were in the playoffs.
I had a good record, I think in the Tags League,
the Dynasty League. That's like one of the very few
where I did not make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
I got third place in that Tags League, which was
nice because I got my money back for the league.
I did win two Dynasty leagues, and one of the
ones I didn't win, I ended up with the second pick.
So it's always nice to get a high pick when
when you don't actually make it feels a little bit better. Yeah,
that Content League, which is just a redraft team of course,
but that Content League, I like snuck past you just

(01:43):
barely for the buye in that league. And then my
team was just like like I had, like Lamar got
hurt again, I had like Devanta Adams was my only
good receiver who's out. So you know, sometimes that's the
way it goes right in that Yeah, that was.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
In the out of Bound League. I limped my way
into the championship and then just got soundly beat by
mister Travolta in the Bounds League. So uh, you know,
some some days you're the windshield, some days you're the bug.
That's how it goes.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Bit's how are you doing here a week into January
in the new.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Year doing great? Especially since we have, as we record
this on Wednesday, starting on Thursday, five straight nights a
great football to college football semi finals, playoff football Saturday
and Sunday and Monday night. It's going to be glorious.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Well, it'll be four straight days of fun football and
then probably a blowout on Monday night.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Do you think so? Because Mike Tomlin's twenty and oh
at home on Monday night.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
He's also.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
The playoffs in the last.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
I mean, it's I don't know if it's going to
be a blowof I don't think it's going to be
a rock fight. I mean, the over under its thirty
nine and a half and I couldn't bet the under
fast enough in that game.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I just want to point out I did not start that,
by the way.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I actually just finished taping a predictions show with ericson
and my best bet of the week was Texans to cover.
So I actually do think the Texans win easily. But yeah,
we don't need to get into that.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
You guys know what to do. Bet against Worm.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
A reminder for everybody, all of our consensus rankings and
tiers can be found at fantasypros dot com slash rankings.
If you're looking at kind of early trades and values,
you can navigate to our Dynasty rankings from there. We've
also got the updated Dynasty Trade value chart that updates
from the first of every month all year long, So
there is a January update on that that fits and
I talked about on the Discord Show just yesterday. We're

(03:32):
talking ten Dynasty breakouts, risers, whatever word you want to
use here for twenty twenty six. We're going to go
five to one from each of the two of you.
Not really relevant based on position. You can pick whatever
positions you want, but going from five up to your
number one biggest breakout or riser that you expect for
twenty twenty six. So these are names that you can
be looking at in trades and say, hey, I think
these are going to be breakouts, whether it's over the

(03:53):
offseason the hype grows, or something that we expect when
we get into the games in September and October and
beyond that we're going to see breakouts there. So these
are ten names from us that fit that criteria. Fits
us start with you, what's your number five Dynasty breakout
for twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, you didn't give us any positional requirements for this,
but I wanted to have a token tight end here,
and actually it is a guy I'm pretty excited about,
and it's Terrence Ferguson, and I think this is a
really good time to buy low because we only saw
brief glimpses of what the twenty two year old Ferguson
is capable of in his rookie season, only eleven catches.

(04:31):
But with those eleven catches, he scored three touchdowns and
averaged twenty one yards per catch and nine point two
yards per target. When he had a catch, it was
usually a big play. Now, he was a second round
draft pick of the Rams this past year, team that's
drafted pretty shrewdly in recent years. Just a remarkable athlete

(04:51):
who ran a four to six y three at the combine,
had a thirty nine inch vertical jump. And yeah, his
role was sort of limited in twenty twenty five because
the Rams used multiple tight ends, including Tyler Higbee, Kolby Parkinson,
Davis Allen. But Sean McVay loves using multiple tight ends
like the Rams set some sort of unofficial record for

(05:13):
most snaps in thirteen personnel this year where they used
three tight ends. And now Tyler Higby is about to
become an unrestricted free agent, so maybe that opens up
a little room for Ferguson, gives him bigger snap counts
in twenty twenty six. But man, this guy is just
he's a pretty special athlete, and I'm looking toward the

(05:34):
Rams to maybe tap that athleticism a little more next year.
I trust Sean McVay to do it, and I'm just
crossing my fingers that Matthew Stafford chooses to play one
more year.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
I strongly agree on this. There remember a handful of
tight ends. They're kind of fit similar descriptions in terms
of like draft capital going into last season, and I'm
talking about these rookies. It was Mason Taylor, was Terrence Ferguson,
who was Elijah Arroyo. These guys are going in similar
ranges of rookie drafts, and Ferguson I felt like maybe

(06:06):
had the highest ceiling not for year one, but long
term if he could get an opportunity in this offense.
And I feel really good about that coming out of
this season. I think it's a good call. He is
tight end sixteen in early rankings, and these are just
that I went into Fatas for those Dynasty rankings, and
I only looked for people who have updated their rankings

(06:26):
since the end of the season. So amongst those experts,
he's at tight end sixteen. This is Dynasty rankings specifically,
moving forward, Bogman, does that sound too high, too low,
or just right for you?

Speaker 2 (06:36):
No, that sounds about right, maybe even a little bit
too low as well. Just looking at some of these rankings,
I didn't filter like you did, but I do see
Rondez Gadsden up here at ten. Fitzy, what do you
think between Rondez Gadson and Terrence Ferguson, Because I think
I'm on your side here. I think I'd rather have
Terrence Ferguson.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
I mean, I've got Gadsden ranked higher. I don't know
if that's the right call. You know, Gadsden, I just
think we saw more of a sustained burst of productivity
from him in twenty twenty five, and that's the reason
I tend to side with him. But I do think
that if they were in similar roles, I'd almost rather

(07:15):
bet Ferguson than Gatston. Just because I think he's such
a remarkable athlete.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, you know, Ronde Gatson did have a good stretch,
but he kind of faded off at the end of
the season. So I think I'd rather have Terrence Ferguson, specifically,
with Tyler Higbee probably either going somewhere else as a
free agent or retiring because he is old and he's
had a lot of injuries in the NFL. So I
think I would probably rather have Ferguson. I think this

(07:40):
is a great call out and a little jealous you
got to the I don't know that I would have
picked Terrence Ferguson and tight ends. I probably would have
picked a J. Barner. If I was picking a tight
end to rise, I didn't end up taking one. I
didn't do the extra work that fits did here. I
think Terrence Ferguson is a great call out, and I
absolutely agree with you.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
I love the Ferguson. I didn't, you know, participate in
these rankings. Only you two did. If I were picking
breakouts and I was picking a tight end, and you
know it would be Isaiah likely because we're finally got
to get him. I think, unshackled from Mark Andrews. I
think likely is gonna go somewhere else and be, you know,
actually get the usage that we've all wanted. He's one
spot ahead of Ferguson in the Dynasty rankings to that point,

(08:20):
so in they're very similar range, and I like likely
quite a bit, Bogman. Let's go to your number five here.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
I'm gonna go with Trey Harris, to wide receiver that
was drafted by the Chargers this season, and I think
what we need to see from him is just to
get routes. This season, he had three games with twenty
five plus routes. He had five targets, four catches and
twenty seven yards against Miami, five targets, three catches forty
nine yards at Kansas City, and six targets two catches

(08:45):
twenty eight at Denver. In that last game was the
only game where he got a full assortment of snaps,
and it was Trey Lance as the quarterback right justin
Herbert took Week eighteen off here. So I think what
we just need to see from him is routes, because
they're just giving him when a guy comes off the field,
he goes and plays that route. I feel like they're
not giving him his own routes, his own playbook because pff,

(09:08):
if you go and look, they list the position by
left wide receiver, right wide receiver, and slot wide receiver,
depending on what you played. More, we had nine games
in the slot for as a right and four as
a left, so I feel like they're just moving him
around all over the place for whatever routes come open
this year. Well, now, Keenan Allen is likely to be gone, right.
I don't know that they're gonna bring him back. He

(09:30):
could retire, but he's an unrestricted free agent. I also
think that we saw that this offense take a hit
when Joalt went down. He only played six games still
somehow a pro bowler, Thank you voters, and then Omari
and Hampton went down and missed a big chunk of
the year. But I think that we could see Trey
Harris take a Troy Franklin like jump in his second

(09:51):
season with the Chargers. You're still gonna have QJ there
for another year. I think Trey Harris is already probably
close to as good as QJ. We did see QJ
have you know, a good season this year, but I
think Tray Harris will surpass him and I think lad
will be back better. You get your tackle back, you
get your running back back, Keenan Allen out of there.
I think he's going to be part of this three
headed monster, and I think there's gonna be a lot

(10:14):
more sustained routes for him to run his own tree
this year instead of taking the routes of whoever's coming
off the field.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
He is wide receiver sixty in these early dynasty rankings,
so very like kind of out of the conversation at
this point as somebody that in terms of this like
where the experts see him as a potential breakout, So like,
I don't want to even frame it as you're going
out on a limbogman you are relative to that ranking.

(10:43):
I think it's like an obvious case, like this is
a player that a lot of us liked going into
last year. It was a crowded room this year, bad
offensive line. These are all points you just made. Like,
I think it's a very reasonable case to be higher
than wide receiver sixty going into year two, but the
consensus doesn't appear to be there. Do you where do
you have him? Have you done kind of early.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I haven't reranked yet, but I'm going to have much
higher than sixty. Yeah, I know that, and I think
you can get him. The reason I started with him
at five down here is I think you can get
him as a throw in on some deals, right, I
think you can get him as a free tack on. Yeah,
and that is I you know, I have five guys
I think are all going to take a big jump here,
but I did put them at levels, so this is

(11:23):
the lowest level where we're starting. I think you can
get him for you know, a fifth, a fourth as
a tack on to a deal something like that. So
if you're looking to expand that wide receiver room and
you don't have good options, I think he could be
one ready for a breakout.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Twenty You mentioned Troy Franklin Bogs. Who would you rather
have in Dynasty, Trey Harris or Troy Franklin.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
I would rather have Trey Harris because I like Pat
Bryant a lot. With the Broncos and his usage, it
was it was decent down the stretch, but it definitely
had pockets in the season for Troy Franklin. There were
some games where Pat Bryant was used more some that
Troy Franklin was used more and Courtland Sutton is the
one there. So between both of those guys, I think

(12:04):
long term in Dynasty, I would rather have Trey Harris.
For twenty twenty six, I would probably rather have Franklin,
but long term, I'd rather have Harris.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
You agree with that, worm.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
I think Harris probably has a higher ceiling, So if
that's how you want to build your bench, you know,
future roster. I'm okay with that approach of like preferring him,
But I feel much more confident about Franklin having a
role for the next few years than I do Harris.
They're actually fairly close in in these early ranks. Franklin's

(12:35):
at wide receiver fifty four, so only six spots higher
than Harris.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, I just had to make a real time adjustment
to my rankings because I would rather have Harris, and
I just discovered I had Franklin ranked ahead of him,
so I had to slide Franklin behind him. And it's
just I don't know that Franklin plays a bigger role
in twenty twenty six. I mean there was kind of
a flavor of the month quality to Troy Franklin. I
think where you know Courtland Sutton got off to that

(12:58):
great start this year, and then all of a sudden,
Sutland kind of faded into the background a little bit,
and it was Troy Franklin scoring all these touchdowns. But
then all of a sudden, Sean Payton cut his snaps
pretty dramatically, and all of a sudden, Pat Bryant is
running more routes and playing more snaps than Troy Franklin.
So I just I wonder how committed they are to him.
Whereas I thought this was going to be a red

(13:20):
shirt year for Trey Harris, like with Lad McConkey, Quinton
Johnston and Keenan Allen, Like, where was there going to
be room for Trey Harris to fit into that? And
yet he had thirty catches despite those three guys being
around and Aronde Gadsten popping for a while at mid season.
So for Trey Harris to be able to assert himself

(13:42):
in that offense where there was such a logjam of
pass catchers pretty impressive. And I do think, you know,
he's gonna have staying power. He's a guy who was
not that big on as a prospect, Like I didn't
like him nearly as much as debro dead, probably not
as much as Bogs did, But now I feel like
I was wrong and I wasn't high enough on him.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I love it. I love that we're changing opinions already
a player one out the gate in this show.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Do you guys think that there's any chance to do
it that the Chargers add another receiver to this room?
You just like beyond lad, there's not a ton of
certainty there. Do you think there's a chance that it
gets any more crowded this offseason?

Speaker 2 (14:22):
I mean, I think there's always a chance, right Like, really,
this is a deep wide receiver class. It's probably the
only depth that we're really have in this classes at
a wide receiver, at least offensively, So there's always a
chance that that happens. But I would say it's doubtful.
They need depth along the offensive line. They need depth
on their defense as well. I think that's probably what

(14:44):
they concentrate on because they have two running backs, they
have three wide receivers. Even if Keenan goes, they have
their tight end. So I would address the other issues
specifically along the offensive line if I was a Charger,
and then the Chargers I think have the most cap
space this year as well, so again not out of
the Roman possibility, they bring in a big name. I
think honestly it might be more at the expense of

(15:05):
QJ than it is at Trey Airis.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yes, posswa. Just to point it out, Troy Franklin is
younger than Trey Harris. He's twenty two. Harris is twenty three.
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go to your number four.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
It's Malik Willis, and he is about to become an
unrestricted free agents. And based on how well Malik Willis
has played for the Green Bay Packers the last two seasons,
whenever he's been given a chance, I think he's going
to start for some team in Week one of twenty
twenty six. We just saw this when Jordan Loves sustained
a concussion midway through the second quarter of the Packers

(16:08):
Week sixteen game against the Bears. Willis came in, kept
the Packers in that game and scored thirteen point two
fantasy points in two and a half quarters. And then
the next week against your Ravens Worm, Willis started through
for two hundred and eighty eight yards and one touchdown,
ran for sixty yards and two touchdowns, and scored thirty
one point five fantasy points. He pretty much was the

(16:29):
Green Bay offense in that game. Cheaper in dynasty right
now than he will be in a couple of months,
because when some team signs him in March and makes
it clear that he will be their starter in twenty
twenty six, Willis is going to get real expensive in
super flex leagues. Dynamic runner, we know that, and he
has turned into a very competent passer under the Tutelaga

(16:53):
batt Lafleur. Like, I think he is basically a better
version of Justin Fields, and Justin Fields is a guy who,
in reed this past fall, was being drafted as like
a low end quarterback one. So there's a lot of
upside with the guy who delivers this sort of explosive
running ability. And look, when he got drafted, everyone knew
he was going to be a project. And then he

(17:15):
gets his first exposure to NFL defenses as a member
of the Titans and looked bad and everyone just totally
rode him off. And like this second act he's had
as a backup in Green Bay has been just phenomenal
for his career, I think, and now I think he
is ready to take the stage as a starter.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
He is QB thirty in these early Dynasty rankings. I
think that that's just too low. Like I wait too,
I don't like the names ahead of him, to a
tuck of I LOOI Shidorg Sanders, Daniel Jones, Michael Pennix, Junior,
Bryce Young, Matthew Stafford, JJ McCarthy. He starts to get
into some people who have done some stuff, But like
thirty is just like I find that to be crazy.

(17:57):
It's going to jump up a lot depending on where
he goes.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
I've got him at twenty two.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
That and that's in anticipation of I mean, maybe it's
the Colts with Jones Hurt, maybe it's the Dolphin. Like
there's there's a lot, there's a number of teams where
he could go, and I'd be pretty like interested in
him in a dynasty perspective. Bagman, where are you gonna
have Willis? Yeah, I'm gonna have him much higher.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
And this is uh, you know if I'm picking one
off of Fitzi's list that I was upset that he
got to the lists before me because I've been saying
to my packers buddies all year, like I want Malik
Willis in Pittsburgh, especially if if they are going to
stick with Arthur Smith, right, I think we've seen Arthur
Smith make Ryan Tannehill look like a pro bowler before.

(18:41):
I think that that would be a nice fit, specifically
because he's mobile. The most upsetting thing about that is
that they could have had Malik Willis, but they took
Kenny Pickett instead in that draft, which is not what
I wanted at all and obviously did not work out.
So but I think this is a good call out
FITSI we have seen the upside from Malik Will, specifically

(19:01):
late in the season here against Baltimore, and I think
wherever he goes, he's gonna he's gonna provide rushing upside,
and that's what we want.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
What's the top twice spot, top landing spot for you
for Dynasty purposes?

Speaker 2 (19:13):
I think it would be the Colts, like if they
if they wanted to just say, all right, look, Daniel
Jones obviously isn't gonna make it, We're gonna pedal off
Anthony Richardson somewhere else because I thought Riley Leonard looked
pretty good against the JV Texan squad that last week,
and he fits the system, uh that they play with
in there, so I think that would be a nice fit.

(19:33):
I don't know if it's realistic. I think just somewhere
with a good OC Like if the Raiders do hire
a good coach, I think, you know you have Bowers,
you have Ashton Gent, They're gonna fix the line, they're
gonna add weapons outside. I think that could be a
nice spot for him as well.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Fitz, do you have a favorite landing spot.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
That's a real good one, because he would be paired
with a pretty sharp offensive mind in Shane Steike, And
that's because we saw what Matt Lafleur did for him.
My only qualm about him going to the Colts is that,
with such hyper aggressive running quarterbacks, I always like to
see them go to a team that plays its home
games on natural grass. Just kind of a little quirk

(20:15):
of mine and kind of the reason I don't love
Jackson Dart being in with the Giants playing on like
the worst field in the NFL. So that's one thing.
I mean, I could I could see him going to
the Cardinals. Yeah, and I could certainly picture him Bogs
in Pittsburgh, even though you know, I mean, it seems

(20:37):
like it's a little bit of a Justin Fields type thing.
But again, I do think Willis is a better version
of Justin Fields.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
He definitely is a better past the Justin Fields. He's
become one bug.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Mean, let's go to your number four, all right.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
I'm gonna do another wide receiver here, Shamiri DK with
the Tennessee Titans, and I think you really started to
connect with Ward down the stretch here wide receiver nine
in week twelve. He was a wide receiver two in
week seven, eight and fourteen. He was as high as
a wide receiver three in weeks fifteen and sixteen, and
he made the Pro Bowl as a punt returner. So

(21:11):
we know this dude is great with the ball in
his hands. I thought alec Iah Minor was going to
be better than him, and if you look at snaps,
he definitely had way more snaps. But they would pull
Shmiri DK off the field when it was you know,
you don't throw a guy out there like that to block,
you know. So I A Minors a big body, so

(21:33):
he was out there to block as well. Now way
more efficient than an I A Minor. And when you
have Calvin Ridley coming back, if they are to draft someone,
I mean, look that the Titans are a wild card.
Who knows what is going to happen in terms of
the roster build, right because they have a lot of
money to spend, They're going to have a new coach
coming in here adjusting everything. There's a lot of ways

(21:56):
you can go. But I do think that one thing
that did work this season was Shamiri DK playing in
the slot for them. So made the like I said,
made the Pro Bowl as a returner with two punt
return touchdowns. He plays primarily slot Calvin Ridley comes back.
He is an outside guy that would probably push I
a minor more than it would push Shamiri DK as well.

(22:17):
So this is another guy in the Trey Harris type
of level where you can get him as a tack on,
you can get him as a free square in a
lot of spots I feel like, and I really feel
like it was working for cam Ward down the stretch,
and I still think cam Ward is a very good prospect.
So I like Shamiri DK as a guy that you
can probably get for close to nothing. Right now, where do.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
You think he's ranked in these early Dynasty rankings?

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Probably below Harris sixty five.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
He is below Harris, but a lot further below. He
is eighty fourth.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Eighty four. Yes, I mean he didn't have like a
breakout year this year. This is why I put him here.
But I think you know, it took three years for
Parker Washington, but that's the type of impact I feel
like Smiri DK could have potentially in twenty twenty six
and moving forward if he does stick now this one,
this one, maybe I should have put his five and
Trey Harrison four right Wiener schwatam. You can tell that

(23:12):
Fits got the good wide receivers here, by the way.
But you know, so I was reaching a little bit.
I have running backs higher. But I think both these
guys are potentially free in deals right now, and I
think they could play a decent sized role for their
teams in twenty twenty six. So I just like what
I saw down the stretch for DK, specifically, you know,
adding the fact that you're not taking him off of

(23:35):
special teams, so they definitely want to keep him and
get him more involved in my opinion, so I think
I think DK could have a nice year in twenty
twenty six if they do add a good offensive mind
to help Cam Word and a lot of offensive line
help Fits.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
What do you think about DK?

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Yeah, a guy who played right under my nose at
the University of Wisconsin for most of his college career
before transferring to Florida his last year. And I when
I saw the Titans draft him in what was it
bugs the third round? Third Yeah, so when he was
a Day two pick, and like you know, I think

(24:09):
a lot of people in the fantasy. The Dynasty community
sort of raised their eyebrows, like, oh, we didn't expect that,
Like it's mostly to be a return man and he
can help out and be her fourth receiver. No, I mean,
he played a much bigger role than that, and they
kind of needed him to. My only question is whether
DK is going to be this much of an offensive

(24:30):
contributor once the Titans start to fortify that wide receiver room,
because after Calvin Ridley got hurt, it was basically just
DK and Ioman are pair of rookies.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Chigakonquoi led them in I think receptions and yards, so
that did get ugly. I a minor was decent as well.
And if they draft Makaya Lemon, I mean, you know,
if they draft a slot wide receiver, DK is out
right and I understand that. So maybe he is a
little more risky than Trey Harris. But I think they
have so many needs on defense. I don't think they're

(25:02):
going to be spending a high draft pick on a
slot wide receiver when they already have a decent one
in good point. So I think he keep he keeps
the job. I think they have too many needs and
I think him and Ward really worked on the stretch
and we saw we saw Ward pull Xavier Rostreppo, who
was not even drafted and you know, barely made the
Titans practice squad. He got on the field a couple

(25:24):
of times, but he made him look like a stud
at Miami. What can he do with some some of
these guys in the NFL. I think, you know, fixing
this on line is only going to help Ward, and
I think experience in reps is going to.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Help Ward as well. Speaking of Rastrepo, I mean I
thought that Rastreppo had a better NFL future back when
we were doing our our prospect studying, even though like
athletically he was just kind of a zero at the
combine and DK is like an athletic freak, and I
still thought, well, Rastrepo looked, you know, he just really

(25:57):
polished clicked with cam Ward at Miami. Nope, I mean
like there was no room at the end, no show.
And DK is like he is good enough to play
receiver in the NFL, which I did not anticipate. So
I do think he has a future. It's just I
wonder if they're going to need him to be a
big time contributor in the future, Like, I just don't
know if he ever has like eighty catch up side.

(26:20):
That's my own.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
It's a decent question. I will say, this is the
first name I thought of when I saw that the
show was This is one of the first Like, I think,
I'm going to try to buy him low across the
board if I can.

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All right, Bogwan, let's start with you in here. What's
your number three?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I'm gonna go with Kenneth Gainwell. A little bit of
a homer pick here, but I really did not expect
to see what we saw out of Kenneth Gainwell this season.
The Steelers drafted with Caleb Johnson as well. You know,
I think my line for the whole offseason was, look,
Kenneth Gainwell is not a nothing. But they did spend
a third round pick on Caleb Johnson, so I think
it's gonna go to Caleb. Obviously, his big blunder in

(27:52):
that Seahawks game early got him in Tomlin's doghouse, and
we saw Gainwell explode because Aaron Rodgers loved him. Only
be John CMC. Gibbs had more receptions as a running
back than Gainwell this year. He had seventy three. He
was fifth in running back routes out of the slot,
ninth in routes among running backs out wide as well.

(28:12):
He had one hundred and eighty seven touches this year,
which is a career high. But we know there's meat
on the bone in terms of touches because his final
season at Memphis when he played in college, he had
two hundred and eighty seven touches for the Tigers. So,
speaking of Tennessee, the Titans have the most money to spend.
I think this the most or second most. He went

(28:34):
to Memphis and cutting Tony Pollard would save seven and
a half million dollars against the cap here. So they're
looking for a weapon to play here. You can move
this dude around wherever you want. He was fourth in
pass block grade according to PFF among running backs as well.
This dude's going to get a bag. I feel like
I think he's going to get paid. There's not a

(28:55):
lot of running back capital in the draft this year.
Someone is going to pay him to come in. I
feel like MB you know, maybe not the I don't
think he's gonna get two hundred fifty touches or anything,
but I think he can push this to two fifteen,
two thirty something like that. I think he can play
all three downs as well, and I think Tennessee would
be a very good fit for him because they are

(29:16):
looking for weapons. This dude is a weapon. So I'm
kind of projecting where he goes. But there are other
spots where he could end up. I mean, he could
go to Kansas City, right, So there are spots where
running backs are needed, specifically receiving back. So I think
that Kenny Gainwell is going to get a bag this
season and someone is going to make him their primary
a back.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I see you laughing, fits.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah, because Boggs just brought up something I was thinking
about as he was talking, and that's well, one, yeah,
Kenny Gainwell is going to get a bag, but it's
not going to be as big a bag as Breyce
Hall and worm You and I and Deebro were talking
on a show last week about you know, where Breece
Hall could end up, and I was saying how the
dream for me would be the Chiefs. But the problem

(29:59):
is at the Chiefs capologists Bernie Madoff and so they're
in like the worst cap shape in the league, and
you know, so they I don't know if they'll be
able to afford Breesee Hall, but maybe they could afford
the slightly smaller bag that Kenny Gainwell is going to require.
And man if he ends up there, like what a

(30:20):
dream spot that would be for a pass catching back
playing with Patrick Mahomes, who really I don't know if
he's ever fully leveraged his like he made some nice
music with Jerick McKinnon for a while there for parts
of a couple of seasons, but like, I would love
for him to just have a good pass catching back there,

(30:42):
like from the get go and who he could lean
on and you know, get seventy receptions a year. But yeah,
Gainwell was really didn't didn't the Steelers vote him like
their offensive MVP this year team and Team mvplayers.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Voted him as the team MVP, Yeah, over Rogers, which
was kind of surprise because Rogers was a captain and
all that stuff. So I think that might be angling.
Maybe we want to take a little bit less to
stay in Pittsburgh. You know, maybe maybe one of those
as well. I would love to have him back, But
you know, Warren, I think is you know, those guys

(31:16):
are gonna split no matter what if he says in
Pittsburgh but I do think he can get a bigger
role and bigger payday somewhere like that call.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
I like it if depending on the landing spot. This
is the one of the ten total names you guys
you know, put together for the show. This is the
only one where I was like, yeah, I don't know
if I see it. He's gonna be a twenty seven
year old running back going into next season, Like, I
just don't love that.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
No usage, low mileage, it's true. And if one hundred
and eighty seven was his most by a lot, I
think one hundred and five was as big as before though.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
It's definitely true. And if he goes to a place
like the Chiefs, like, yes, I think that is like
such a clear you can see the fantasy gold coming
from that. If he goes somewhere else and it's maybe
less of an obvious fit, I might be a little
more hesitant to agree with this one as a true breakout.
He's RB thirty three for whatever it's worth. In these

(32:06):
Minnesota he's the ranking.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
He is kind of a sneaky by low though, because
I think you could possibly get him for like a
like a third, maybe not a third, but like you
wouldn't have to even give up a second for him,
Like maybe I.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Am as a by Low more than a breakout I would.
I like that framing better than like, I don't know
how high the ceiling is again barring a really ideal
situation that he lands in, but I do I do
think as a value as a by Low, I agree,
by the way, just some of the names around him,
just to say them, Trey Benson, Jacry Krosky, Merritt are
ahead of him, Tyrone Tracy, David Montgomery, Tyler Algier all

(32:45):
right behind him. So those are the names that he's
ranked amongst in the Dynasty rankings. Fits what's your number
three breakout?

Speaker 3 (32:51):
I'm going to give you another running back whose value
could increase due to free agency, but not because he
himself is on the movement, because one of his fellow
running back teammates is on the move is Zach Sharboney,
and he has mostly been seen as a touchdown poacher,
a thorn in the side of Kenneth Walker investors, and

(33:12):
Sharboney's fantasy value has been massively touchdown de Pennant. He
scored nine touchdowns in twenty twenty four, twelve, and twenty
twenty five, and yet he only had around nine hundred
yards from scrimmage in each of those seasons. Now, it's
tough to start a player like that in a managed
league because if Scharbonay doesn't score a touchdown in any given week,
he may or may not give you enough yardage to

(33:35):
make up for it. But now Kenneth Walker is about
to hit free agency and maybe Seattle resigns him. But
if not, we could see an expanded role for Sharbona
in twenty twenty six, and I think there's reason for
the Seahawks to consider expanding his role. Charboney was twelfth
in yards after contact per attempt among running backs this
year running backs with at least seventy five carries. He

(33:57):
was seventeenth in breakaway run percent among running backs with
at least seventy five carries. Only ran for seven hundred
and thirty yards this season and only averaged four yards
per carry, which isn't terrible, certainly isn't good. And yet
the only running back with a higher PFF run grade
than Sharbona this year Devon h Chan. That was it.
He had the second best run grade PFF gave out

(34:20):
this year. He's just He's a no. He is the
anti Kenneth Walker. Walker is this super East West runner
who is just you know, it's like watching straight line. Yeah,
like Barry Sanders dance aroundback there, and Sharbona is just
no frills, downhill, get after it, scores touchdown, adds some
value as a pass catcher only twenty catches this season,

(34:42):
but forty two and twenty twenty four. And like Malik Willis,
sharbon Ay is a guy who I think is worth
buying now before free agency because if Kenneth Walker signs
with the team other than the Seahawks, Charboney's price is
going to skyrocket right away. So if you're watching or
listening to the show on Thursday, January eighth, it is

(35:05):
Zach Sharboney's twenty fifth birthday today, so he is just
now entering his prime. I think it's a good time
to get in on him. And if Kenneth Walker goes,
I think we're going to see a Sharbona breakout in
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Fitz, would you rather Sharbonai or Manungui in Dynasty?

Speaker 3 (35:22):
I think I have to go with charbon Ay just
because of the possibility of that opening. I love manong guy.
But you know, Charbonay a little a little higher draft capital,
might be a little more athletic. He's bigger.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
I have to go there, Bogman sharbon Ay. Really, it's
just all gonna be about opportunity, opportunity, opportunity, and what
that looks like given whatever happens at the backfield this offseason.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
I can't believe Fitz picked charbon A. He's so obvious.
It's insulting everyone's intelligence. I think that's what it is.
I'm definitely not jealous, but this is, I mean, the
most obvious call I think we have here. Right, sharbon
A with a full assortment of one a touches is
going to be, you know, a borderline RB one that

(36:08):
might be low. He might be a high end RB
one in Seattle. Now, I do think they bring in
somebody else, for sure. The more we talk about it,
I feel like Gainwell would be a perfect fit next
to Sharbonay, right, because you just said they do opposite things.
He's great in third downs, he can catch the bout
of the backfield. I would hate that landing spot for Gainwell,
right because Sharps is there, and he would get no
touchdowns because Sharps would get all of them. But I think,

(36:31):
you know, he's a downhill runner. He's a fourth quarter
closer type of running back as well, and that's exactly
what McDonald wants to do there in Seattle. So I
think this is a this is an obvious one. If
ken Walker is gone, I get my biggest fear for
Sharbonay is that they re sign Walker. That's like, that
would be my biggest fear for him to not gain.

(36:54):
But even this year he gained because he got all
those goal line touches. So I think he's ahead of
ken Walker already, even if they're both back, and I
think that I don't think ken Walker's coming back. I
think he's gone and they'll add somebody else. They like
Hailani as well. They play him every time they possibly can,
so maybe he's the guy and Sharbonay just gets you know,
like a full, huge workload, and I think this is

(37:18):
a great buy right now on Sharps. The other thing
I would say, just quickly is like I think it's
very very likely Clint Kubiak is a head coach next year.
I don't think that'll change the fact that Mike McDonald
is gonna want whoever is the offensive play caller in
Seattle to.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Run the ball a lot, So like I wouldn't be
worried about, Oh, they're going to bring in somebody else
and it's going to drastically change, Like the usage of
this backfield as a complete and total unit. I don't
think that's changing regardless of who the OC is, So
I wouldn't be scared off by the coordinator change that
is likely coming.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah, they're committed to it. With the way they drafted
Grey's Abel in the first round, the way they drafted
a true, just massive full back in Robbie Ootz last year,
Like they made at to the running game, I don't
think they're going to go away from that.

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(38:26):
go to your number two.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
It's Jaden Higgins. Now, the rookie stats for Jaden Higgins
weren't all that flashy this year. Forty one catches, five
hundred and twenty five yards, six touchdowns, twelve point eight
yards per catch, seven point seven yards per target, one
point four or five yards per ot run like those
numbers are just okay, not exceptional. Kind of a slow
start for him. Didn't have more than thirty four receiving

(38:50):
yards in any game until Week ten, and then picked
it up a little bit late in the season. For me,
it's mostly an eye test thing for Jaden Higgins, and
first of all, just totally the part. Six', four two
hundred and fifteen pounds ran a four point four to
seven at the combine at that, size which gave HIM
i think a ninety fourth percentile speed. Score AND i

(39:11):
thought he looked the part on the field. Too just
a professional route, runner a big receiver who plucks the
ball with his, hands a guy who's a real problem
for defensive backs to bring down once he has the.
Ball so, Yeah Nico collins is still. There BUT i
JUST i liked WHAT i saw From Jaden. Higgins whenever
he got a, chance which was all too fleeting because you,

(39:33):
know and we've heard this rant from deebra on numerous,
Occasions Nick kyley liked rotating In Xavier hutchinson And Christian
kirk and didn't give enough time To Jayden higgins And Jalen.
Noel hopefully we get more time for Those Iowa state
rookies And nole's another guy could have thrown on here.
Too by the, way a guy who like now That
Christian kirk is out of his way wheels. Up SO

(39:56):
i hope you get a lot more of The iowa
state receivers for The texans now next, year BECAUSE i
love both of these.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Guys Penn state receivers. Now Matt campbell's, RIGHT.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
I do Think higgins is the right one of the
two to, pick if you're only picking. One i'm surprised
he's outside the top forty in these Early dynasty. RANKINGS
i was surprised by. THAT i thought he'd be more
in the thirties, range even with the you, Know nico
still being there and whatever question marks you might still
have about the. OFFENSE i, AGREE i just. WATCH i
just think he's a good, player AND i expect that

(40:29):
as a good player in year two and, beyond he
will get more. Opportunity and you, know we've seen plenty
Of we've seen a wide receiver two at his own
offense with the last Named higgins do very well in
fantasy football in recent. Years like, this that's not scaring
me off that That nico is. There If higgins is
a good, player WHICH i think he, is what is

(40:50):
watch your forty?

Speaker 3 (40:50):
One i've got him thirty and where Is? Noel BECAUSE
i Have noel at wide receiver thirty four And i'll
bet that's like way higher THAN.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
I bet he's like fifty.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Five he's fifty. Seven, Crazy, Okay nole's fifty seven And
higgins is forty?

Speaker 3 (41:05):
One Is nole is saw four to four speed and
a forty one and a half inch vertical. Job that
guy is a. Freak and, MAN i.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Like them both. TOO i just THINK i just Like
higgins a little bit, better BUT i.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
More mississippis to be able to get the ball out.
Everybody he's.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Got that's, it, MAN i, know give, him give him
protection and like we could see these guys pop next.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Year another spot Game weell could end.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Up he used to let me Put higgins against two
other names that he's very near in these, Rankings higgins
Or Alec pierce.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Fits, Oh higgins In. DYNASTY i, Mean Alec pearce is
just not like there's not enough volume wherever he, Goes like.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
He's a free. Agent you don't think that's. GONNA i
just changed a little. Bit he is a he's a field.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Strutcher erkson puts the idea Of pierce going to The
patriots in my, head AND i can't stop thinking About
Drake may throwing it To.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Pierce, YEAH i, mean like if you really thought on
it LIKE, I i guess the ceiling For Alec pierce
could be like Another Jordy, nelson which would be pretty.
Spectacular BUT i JUST i wonder if he's ever going
to be a guy who catches more than like fifty
to fifty five balls a.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Year, Yeah fits will change his mind when he ends
up In Green. Bay the other one here Is higgins
Or Michael. Wilson wilson is higher in the consensus. RINGS
i think it should Be, higgins But i'm curious what you.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
THINK i still have to Go higgins.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Here, yeah that one's, Closer i'll, say you, know the
issues that Dogged Michael wilson in college were injury. Issues
he's always a good wide, receiver so if that has turned,
AROUND i would say it's much. Closer BUT i don't.
Know if it's turned, around it might just be a
clean season that we got out Of Michael wilson. Here

(42:46):
so if those injury issues crop up, again obviously he's
gonna sink like a.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
STUF i Have wilson ranked one spot Behind Jalen nole
at thirty.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Five, Okay i'll Take wilson Over. Nol but you, Know,
bugin where do you maybe not next?

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Year where do you Have higgins? Ranked, BAGMAN i haven't
done my rankings, yet or where? Roughly like what kind
of range do you think sounds?

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Right i'm probably gonna have him in that wide receiver
three range right Around, fitziasa, okay you, know around thirty
to you, know twenty, five somewhere in that.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Neighborhood, bogan you've got a quarterback. Here if you're a
number two, PICK i.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Do and it's a. QUARTERBACK i am surprised to be
talking about BECAUSE i did not expect this to. Happen
Tyler shuck finished the season very, well he finished the
seat in AS qb sixteen or higher in the last sixteen.
Games in that, stretch he WAS qb seven in, scoring
by the, way which is pretty impressive for. Him he
finishes A qb one three times and his highest point

(43:42):
total was the last week of this. Season so he
just kept Seeing Tyler schuck grow and grow and grow
as the season. Progressed here he averaged thirty yards rushing
per game over those final six weeks as, well so
he's not a nothing burger in the rushing department And olave,
healthy WHICH i think is a big thing for O

(44:02):
lave moving, forward for him to move healthy into the.
Offseason and they are still going to be In Cap
helen twenty twenty, Six so even if you were thinking
maybe they bring in someone you, know decent that could push,
him they're not going. To So Tyler shuck is their
guy for this foreseeable. Future he showed me way more
THAN i thought he, had specifically at the end of the,

(44:25):
season and really with that rushing up, SIDE i was
surprised to see that at the end of the year
he scored a couple of touchdowns as well, rushing so
surprised to Have Tyler shuck here BECAUSE, i like everybody, else, Thought,
eh The saints are going to sink like a. Stone
they're not going to be good at all. Here And
Tyler shuck is the type of guy where you can

(44:45):
have him this, year but no one's going to be
crying when he. Leaves when you draft a number one overall.
Quarterback they're not drafting that, high SO i think they're picking,
twelve so they're not high enough for a quarterback in this.
Class they're likely to add a Weapon Jeremiah love or
a wide receiver or somebody else that would also Help Tyler.
Shuck SO i just think that all signs are pointing

(45:06):
up on The Tyler schuck. Bandwagon And i'm sneaking in
at the very end there BECAUSE i definitely was not
on the truck bandwagon coming.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
In, YEAH i feel LIKE i really would have learned
the lesson of the last couple of. Years they're keep
we keep having these quarterbacks Who i'm not a huge fan,
of who are not getting like this top five draft,
capital but are being drafted with a real chance to
be starters for their. Teams and they're going with these
like late first early second picks in super flex. Drafts
i'm thinking Like Bo, Nicks i'm thinking Like Jackson, Dart

(45:35):
i'm Thinking Tyler, shuck and they keep like after the first,
year just reiterating to me and reproving the fact that
if you have a chance to be starting quarterback in,
superflex like just invest in those guys because they like
to have so consistently gone up in. Value, Here i'm
thinking about somebody like Ty simpson if he ends up
being drafted in the twenties and has a chance to
start for a team with trays up into there this,
year but he just declared today not my, favorite you,

(45:57):
know quarterback in this. Draft but if he's going in
that round and super flex rookie, DRAFTS i feel like
it's worth considering just the Value.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Caberal matters for quarterback more than any other. Position, totally
it absolutely.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Matters shuck IS qb twenty one in the consensus Rankings
bogman two high Two, Logs, right.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
It's probably a little bit. LOW i Think i'll have
him a little bit, higher maybe like between eighteen and
sixteen somewhere around. There BUT i feel like he's not
being viewed at that around there in the dynasty. Community
SO i do think in a super flex league you
can get him a little bit. Cheaper right. Now you,
know people aren't excited about The, saints AND i understand,
that but he really did look good the last six. Weeks,

(46:38):
yeah fits from week ten ON qb, TWELVE qb twenty,
three then twelve, six, sixteen, sixteen nine and. Four that
is a great super flex.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Starter started eight, games completed sixty nine point six percent
of his, passes which is just, crazy and seven point
seven yards per tent which is, fantastic nine touchdowns foreigner,
options a really GOOD td TO i and T ra
show for a rookie. Quarterback two hundred and forty nine
point six passing yards a game in his. Start so

(47:08):
like his numbers were not only comparable, to but in
some regards better Than Drake may's rookie. Numbers and you,
know Like may shuck adds some, mobility which is. Great
and it's it's funny that we and WHEN i say,
we like ALL nfl, fans we think we're smarter THAN
nfl gms in a lot of. Cases and back in prospecting,

(47:30):
season you, know and by the, way dynasty managers especially
have that like when we certainly think we're smarter when
it comes to the draft THAN nfl. Gms and so
when there was word like back In march And april
that there was like a buzz Around Tyler, SHUCK i
think a lot Of dynasty people were, like, oh, really
like this guy's this guy's all these over aged well
like they they knew what they were talking, About like

(47:52):
this guy is. Toolsy the only reason we can't be
like head over heels in love with, HIM i think
is because of the. Age without looking it, up you,
guys who's Older Tyler Schucker Malik?

Speaker 2 (48:03):
WILLIS i, MEAN i Know Tyler shuck is twenty.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Six, Yeah i'm gonna guess It's, shuck but that is.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Close they're both twenty. Six willis is about four or
five months older Than.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Shock, okay so, yeah you know he's drafted three years.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Before yeah he's not that, Ancient but, like look for
for the next four or five. Years AND i absolutely
agree With, Bogs like The saints aren't going to run
out and get another. QUARTERBACK i don't even know if
they need a backup if they Have rattler under contract
for another, year because he was at least. Competent it
wouldn't run The, yeah like didn't make the. Plays that's the.

(48:40):
Thing Like ratler was just like kind of good at avoiding,
Disaster like didn't take a lot of sacks and come
in a lot of. TURNOVERS i, mean the play.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
WHEN i wrote up About rattler when he came out
was he's cowardly with the. Ball he will Not it's
kind of. It you, know he was too wild At,
oklahoma and they curbed that all At South. Carolina but
they curbed it too. Much he took away a lot
of his natural playmaking ability when you did, that and
he has not found it. Again And shuck is just way.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Better, Yeah SO i love this. CALL i, Mean i've
Got shuck And malik willis ranked back to back in
My dynasty, rankings And i've Got shock ranked one spot.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
HIGHER i just want to reemphasize Because fitz said it
very quickly when he was praising it this, way he
said his numbers were comparable To Drake may's rookie. SEASON
i want to just rehasize. It, yeah not saying his
numbers are covered with, this, NO i want to make
sure everybody heard that, correctly but to his rookie, year all,
Right let's go to our number one from each of.
You fitz will start with. You who's your number one

(49:36):
dynasty breakout for twenty twenty?

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Six Luther Burden AND i guess you could argue that
we are already starting to get the, breakout but kind
of a real late season. BREAKOUT i mean it was,
like after, All Luther burden didn't play more than thirty
percent of The bears offensive snaps in any game Until week,
ten and he didn't play more than fifty percent of
the offensive snaps in any game Until week. Twelve forty seven,

(49:59):
catches one hundred and fifty two, yards two, touchdowns pretty
good numbers considering the snap. Counts he is averaging two
point sixty nine yards per route. Run that is the
second best yards per route run number by a rookie
receiver since the advent of that, statistic and the only
rookie receiver who was better in that category Was Odell.

(50:19):
Beckham burn ranks number one in average yards of separation
according To Next Gen stats four point six yards of,
separation third in yardage after catch per reception seven point four.
Yards just special movement, skills the way he can stop
and start in the blink of an, eye and like
back in prospecting, SEASON i said he reminded me Of

(50:41):
alan iverson the acceleration out of his stance at the
line of, scrimmage the very underrated ball skills that we
have not fully seen yet in THE. Nfl BUT i
Saw luther burn make some freaky catches when he was
playing from the zoo in. College he's paired with the
head coach who turned another slippery slot Receiver i'm And

(51:03):
Ral Saint brown into a. Superstar he's paired with a
Quarterback Caleb, williams who can buy time for his, receivers
And god help any cornerback who has to try to
stay With Luther burden for more than three or four.
Seconds i'm just so excited about this, guy even though you,
know as A packer, Fan i'm not excited about seeing
him kick butt for The bears for the next half

(51:25):
decade or. More but this guy is so, exciting AND
i JUST i don't know if he's a by, low
BECAUSE i don't think anyone who has n't wants to
part with him right. Now BUT i do think he
is a huge breakout candidate for twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Six there's lots of hype right now For. Burden we've
talked about this in a couple of shows. Recently, FITS
i know where you have him ranked In. Dynasty before
you say, IT i want to hear Where bogman thinks
he should be. Ranked, ROUGHLY i know you haven't done
your ranks, yet but what kind of range you're thinking
about For burden In dynasty? Rankings and THEN i Want
fits to share where.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
He HAS i think you, know Because i'm looking at
where he is uh IN ecr right. Now he's twenty,
six SO i don't Think i'm gonna put him much
higher than, that BUT i could get him up TO
i think twenty one twenty somewhere around that. RANGE i
think that's as high AS i could have. Him where

(52:17):
do you have? Him? Fits much higher than?

Speaker 3 (52:19):
That and then directly Behind teo. McMillan i've got him
ahead Of Rashi, Rice i've got him ahead Of Nico,
Collins George, Pickens Garrett wilson.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
And nico And i'd rather have No So i'm Not
i'm not willing to go ahead of that group quite,
yet BUT i, could LIKE i see the. Upside like my,
question my line for him would BE btj AND btj
is sixteen right. Now so who you would obviously rather
Have luther BURNON?

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Btj could you guys rather Have burden Or?

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Roma, DUNESAY i asked you this. YESTERDAY i think fits that's.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
RIGHT i want to see WHAT i want to see
what Says, STILL i would still rather Have.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
ROAM i THINK i slightly leave In rome for, now
BUT i won't be shocked if a year from NOW
i feel.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
That rome that forty three percent catch, percentage if it
was even that after like week four something LIKE i.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Think HE'S i think he's PLAYING gimpi on the. Stretch
he might have been playing. Hurt but, man, YEAH i think.
So but BUT i mean it's close that THAT'S i
feel like this combo could end up, like you, know
A Chase, higgins not not that not maybe you, know
but either nobody's A, chase but they're both they both could.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
BE i, SAID i said, Yesterday, Bogman i'm, LIKE i
think there's it's there is a world where IF Dj
moore is no longer In chicago next year and they
don't make some you, know big impactful addition that we
go into next, year and it's like a very clean
cut roma don Say luther burd And Colston, loveland and
you get your two receivers in a tight end and

(53:52):
that's where like the vast majority of the passes. Go
who knows that that'll be how it pans, out but
there's a world where that, happens And i'm really excited
about that possibility for all.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
TIME i, MEAN i Know fitz is tired about The
bears talk, here but how good was KiB? Williams? Right,
like he really showed it this year and they're gonna
have that for a long time With Ben johnson In.
Chicago so this offense looks like it's gonna.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Hum let's go to your number One, bogman a player
THAT i Know fitz also.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Likes, Yeah i'm going With Blake korm and this is
a fit special. HERE i was surprised he didn't put
him on the, list but they do still Have Kyron williams.
There they Drafted Jarkos. HUNTER i understand those issues in this.
PICK i get. It but he FINISHED rb thirty seven.
Overall he WAS rb twenty six After week. Nine he
finished as high AS rb three one week when he

(54:42):
scored the multiple touchdowns he was fifth in PFF's run
grade as. Well and you, know the track record of
running backs after massive playoff runs is pretty. Low And Kyron,
williams The rams have said this whole, season we are
trying to Say kyron for a big playoff. Run SO

(55:02):
i Think kyron is going to have substantially more carries
than he had during the regular season in the playoff.
Run and we saw what that did TO cmc a
couple of years, ago we saw what it did To
Saque this, year we've seen what it has done To
Isaiah pacheco getting multiple carries in deep playoff runs as.
Well SO i think If kyron slows down at, All you,
know the running back position is always hot, hand no

(55:25):
matter who the running back. Is if a guy starts,
fumbling you will see them go to another running. Back
and this one is so CLOSE i think they're both
next to each other in. Skill the thing That Blake
corn needs to add obviously is past. Catching, right didn't
have to do. IT a lot Of michigan hasn't done
it all at all this. YEAR i think fourteen targets
and eight. Catches but the dude can run the, Football

(55:47):
he can carry a heavy. Workload he can carry a
team as. Well this offense is. Great, obviously it looks
different If Matthew stafford decides to, Retire but if they
can get him for one more year as, Well Blake
korum might take over this job From kyron halfway through
the year next year and be their lead. Back SO
i think this is a potential breakout for twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Six, yeah fits we talked about it this a bit
on The Discord show as. Well, obviously it's a player
that you quite, liked you, know coming into THE. Nfl
WHAT i liked About quorum is that we saw there
was actually room for him to contribute this year in this,
offense even When kyron was. Healthy AND i know you
talked To bogman about how you, know there's an element
of kind of Saving kiroen a bit for the, Offseason

(56:31):
BUT i like that there's an opportunity like this offense
is good enough that if you're a good player like
he can score touchdowns and have big yardage games that
do well even With kirien still in the, field let
alone the upside that's. Obvious If kirien is not in
the picture and he's the lead back in this offense.
Fits you went a way in On quorum.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Here, yeah that's WHY i didn't claim. HIM i guess
just because breakout candidates like. It it might look very
similar next year to the WAY i looked this year
with sixty forty sixty five thirty five split Between Kyrin
williams And Blake. Koram BUT i do think based on
what we've seen this, year there is eventually going to

(57:10):
be a breakout From Blake korum when he gets a bigger,
Role like he is really good and he's proven, that
AND i think now everyone knows that and believes. That
and you, Know, bogs when he was coming out a
couple of years, ago you, KNOW i, SAID i, thought
And i'm not trying to take a victory lap, here
BUT i thought he was the best pure runner in the,
class even though AND i kind of phrased it that

(57:32):
way Because korum is not big and he's not fast
for a back of his, size but he's a lot
Like Kyle. Manonguy and, That, BOGS i, mean you AND,
I you AND i were interested In, manonguy and, like for,
SURE i don't know that we were necessarily like touting.
Him you gotta draft this. Guy you gotta draft. It

(57:53):
but like we liked him and we were really intrigued
by him even though, undersized not super, fast didn't cat,
passes just a really, good really tough. Rod, Right, Yeah,
KORUM i think it's the same.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Deal, yeah pushes. Piles definitely a goal line type of a,
back even at five, eight, Right so you don't have
to be the best athlete if you are the best running,
back right like that that, is you, know great athletes
make really good running. Backs that definitely is a part
of ITS. Cmc but one of the better. Athletes BUT
i wouldn't Say Dereck henry is an amazing. Athlete he's

(58:28):
a massive. Athlete. Right his speed for his size is.
Insane you're not catching the bottom of the backfield. Either
i'm not Calling blake Koram Derek. Henry i'm just saying
this is the archetype of lead. Back it's the guy
that can take twenty five, touches, right doesn't matter how
you get, him you can you can get twenty five
touches for. Him and it works specifically with the rams

(58:49):
because he is the guy that comes in to close you,
out to run hard in the third and fourth, quarter
and The rams have been winning most of their, games
and that's what they've been doing With koram down the stretch,
here and he's shown more than, that which is a
huge positive as. Well SO i think with running backs
it just moves so, fast right the guys fall off
the cliff really. Quick they shoot up into stardom very

(59:11):
fast as. Well and that's WHY i put him in
this because you don't want to be a year late
On korn because he's going to cost you way too
much at that. Point AND i think get him now
before the massive, breakout either that is in twenty six
or twenty. SEVEN i think it's definitely, coming like.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
And we're just a couple months away from starting to
obsess over things like you, know combine well three, months combine, Times,
NO i guess it is two. Months we're Into january,
already hands times and, size like the measurables and, everything
but like three cone drill with running, backs do not
estimate guys who just don't have the measurables but understand

(59:49):
angles and have the heart of a. Warrior AND i
think that's what you. Get get sold On.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
BUCKY i KNOW i definitely did Sold bucky because his
measurements were. Terrible i'm not doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Again I'm Dame bucky koram manan. Guy they're all like
in that same basket of guys who just like they
are warriors who understand how to, run and it doesn't
matter that they don't have the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Speed DID i Hear bagman say That Derek henry is
not an amazing, Athlete he's just. BIG i, mean.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
At this point in his career he's maybe not, agile but.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Athletes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Ever look WHAT i WHAT i was trying to say, is,
look he is a freak of. Nature, Right Blake korm
is not a freak of. Nature he's just a running
back that can take the, beating. RIGHT i think that
is that's the only similarity Between Blake korm And Derrick.
Henry i'm not you, Know Derrick henry isn't out here
making guys miss because he's got a lot of. Wiggleworm
that's All i'm. Saying he's running in efforts over that's

(01:00:48):
what he. Does he's, massive he is a freak of.
Nature in the fact that he's still at his age
and he's still doing the same. Thing what has changed
For Derrick henry just. Fumbling that's. It he's still the
same guy he was five years. Ago he's. Amazing it'd
be terrible if he retired Because John harball left.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
It, hey he's not gonna leave because of. Horror don't even.
Die we're gonna wrap up the. Show thanks everybody for tuning.
In we are back. Here LIKE i, said every week
The Dice show has returned through from now Through. August
so we'll be here at least once a, week maybe
multiple times a week when we get to like draft
season and some of the super fun times of. Year but,
yeah well we'll be. Around SO i Dropped dynasty related

(01:01:25):
questions in the. Comments let us know. It if there's
anything you'd like to see or topics you'd like us to,
cover you, know We're we're around and. Back SO i
believe NEXT i could be. WRONG i believe next week
might even be our first rookie mock draft of the,
year so we'll be getting to that really. Quickly here
For bogman And, Fits i'm Royan.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Warman CAN i still have cam scataboo worm and put
the hoary.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Cam scatbo pick for For, Vogman i'll allow it For,
bogmen it. Fits i'm worm see you next. Time thanks
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