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July 16, 2025 • 55 mins

Court is now in session! Join Judge Joe Pisapia and Attorneys Derek Brown and Andrew Erickson as they present their arguments for and against drafting five players in your 2025 fantasy football leagues!

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Intro - 0:00:00

Travis Etienne Jr.: RB28 or RB45? - 0:01:25

Signed James Cook Jersey Giveaway - 0:10:37

Marvin Harrison Jr.: WR17 or WR30? - 0:11:10

FantasyPros Draft Assistant - 0:21:05

Xavier Worthy: WR22 or WR45? - 0:22:05

FantasyPros Discord - 0:31:27

Jayden Reed: WR34 or WR57? - 0:33:08

Keon Coleman: WR48 or WR59? - 0:43:48

Outro - 0:55:02

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros Live. This is Fantasy
Football Draft Court. It is me, Judge Joey, and I
am here with you to discuss some debates regarding some
players and the expert consensus rankings. There will be decorum
in my court room, Derek Brown, and if you're wondering

(00:25):
what I'm wearing under this robe, I'm not going to
tell you. I'm just gonna let your imaginations run wild. Everybody.
Andrew Erickson is here to defend his positions and Derek
Brown is here to take his shots at rankings. The
gentleman have some difference of opinions when it comes to
certain players and certain rankings, and we are going to

(00:45):
also help decide using you the jury. For those of
us who are joining us here on the YouTube channel
on Fantasy Pros, make sure you subscribe to Fantasy Pros,
make sure you like this stream, and make sure you vote.
You are here to help me make my decision. Now,
perhaps I will go with the jury, perhaps I won't.
Perhaps I will offer arbitration as I have done in

(01:06):
the past for this when we did on Twitch last
week in case you missed it, and now we're doing
it here. On our YouTube channel. But I at the
end of the day am judge Joey an executioner. So
get ready everybody, because court is in session. Ah my
gavel broke again. It always breaks anyway, Let's get after it.

(01:28):
Let's start here with the first argument that we're going
to have today, and it is a good one. It's
regarding Travis Atn of the Jacksonville Jaguars running back, who
going into last year people were still excited about drafting
this year not so much. Currently Andrew Erickson has him
ranked as RB twenty eight. RB twenty eight. It's pretty steep,

(01:50):
not quite an RB two, but it's not terrible. Derek Brown, however,
he is not having it. He has basically said RB
forty five for Travis Atn. I will now hear the
arguments regarding Travis Atn and the differencing of opinion between
these two gentlemen. And I use that term quite loosely here, gentlemen,

(02:11):
so let us begin here and start court. Derek Brown,
the floor is yours. I'd like to hear your case
against one Travis Atn, who, by the way, is the
consensus RB three in ECR currently. Derek Brown, the floor
is yours.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
I feel like I just have to bring this to
light first for the judge, the jury. It's a sad
day in the fantasy space when I am higher on
baseial Tootin than one Andrew Erickson. I just want to
throw that out there as a piece of evidence. And
backing Travis Etn is an RB three or higher, I

(02:48):
feel like is a very slippery slope considering injury problems
last year. We know Etn dealt with these shoulder issue,
hamstring problems, but the tackle breaking efficiency, it's gone out
the window. People. I don't even know if Travis Etn
is going to be on this team once we get
to week one with Tank Bigsby leading the way, with
Basil Touton also playing into this committee and those two

(03:09):
guys leading this backfield. Liam Cohen said he took one
look at this backfield when he got the job and said,
oh no, no, no, no, this is not good enough
for this offense. They go out and they draft Bacial Touton.
That's an indictment on Travis Etn. They have nobody left
in this front office or coaching staff that's willing to
cape up for Travis Etn. And if you look at

(03:29):
the efficiency's gone. So last year Travis Etn was forty
fifth and miss tackles force in thirtieth and yards of
the contact per attempt. And I know Ericson will bring
up his points about injuries and such, But at this
point in his career, can we say Travis Etn can
stay healthy and those numbers bounce back. I don't believe so.
Even if you want to play out the narrative that

(03:49):
he's the passing down back outside of hype and hope,
what has Etn done even in the passing game one
point zero, one point one eight, zero point nine to
four yards run? These are not the metrics of a
high end running back, much less an RB three. Travis
Etn should be buried.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
In ranks like he is in mine. Ooh, buried in ranks, buried.
He's the one year left on his contract, so Andrew Erickson.
Sometimes that's what folks like to say, is you know,
in the NFL, they chew you up and they spit
you out, much like I do to people in my courtroom.
And I want to know what you think here. Do
you think this is a scenario where perhaps they do

(04:29):
chew up spit out atn and he's actually a little
bit more productive than Derek Brown would lead you to believe.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Well, I think to start the season, I think, yeah,
he's going to be the starting running back for the
Jacksonville Jaguars. I mean he's on the ross right now.
I think that he's still ahead of Tank Bigsby and
Basehall Tutin, who again, it's a new coaching staff. They
also have to earn the coaches trust. Those guys have
a ton of fumble security issues. Tank Bigsby, we're still
hoping that he can maybe take a leap in the
passing game. So at least Travis Etn can command targets

(04:58):
out of the backfield, which you don't see Tank Bigsby
do through two years in the NFL. And to your
point about no one's caping up for Etn in the building,
what about the most important player on the Jacksonville Jaguars,
the quarterback Trevor Lawrence, who has been Travis's Etn's teammate
since Clemson. So if Trevor Lawrence wasn't the quarterback, I
would probably agree with you here and be like, there's
no one in this building that's holding out hope for

(05:20):
Travis etn. But there is he has Trevor Lawrence's trust
and that's the most important factor when it comes to
who's gobbling up high value opportunities in this offense. I
think that's Travis et I think that he's in the
driver's seat right now to catch pass out of the backfield,
to still see a role in the red zone. And
to the point about the injuries last year, that's the
reason why he wasn't efficient. Weeks one through four he

(05:42):
forced more mistackles than the entire season. Weird how that's
before all the injuries happened. So I think that last
year was really more about the injuries. He's still had
a higher rushing success rate than Tank Bigsby on a
down to down basis, And yes, I love Beashall Tooton.
I think that he's an explosive rookie that can be
really effective in a tandem with one of these other
running backs, because that's what we saw in Tampa Bay

(06:03):
with Cohen, he used multiple running backs and pony personnel
and Rashad White. As bad as he was a pick
last year, he was still the RB twenty four and
half PPR when it was all said and done, So
If Traves c D could be RB twenty four as
the pass catching running back in this offense alongside Tank
big Dew or Bashall Twoton well as an RB three
in a full PPR, that's a win in my book.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Some good arguments here. I think we should let the
jury deliberate here and let them get a sense of
what's going on. You both make some very good arguments
of what's going on here. Certainly I like the Clemson argument.
I think that's very interesting, right, because sure it shouldn't
matter you know so much history, but in some ways

(06:46):
it does, and these two have been connected for quite
some time. Also, the injuries are an issue, and you
are heard it's very difficult to perform at any level. So,
Derek Brown, how much injury quotion do you take into
account here when trying to make an assessment of Atn?
Because let's be honest, a lot of guys with great
talent when they get hurt doesn't matter. You can't perform.

(07:08):
So why are you being so difficult regarding Travis Atn?
Because the injuries have been a problem throughout his short career.
Hamstring shoulder issue, beforehand, bruised ribs, foot sprain, and we
all forget about the Liz Frank although it is real.
I would like to push back.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
On one point that Ericson made. Is Trevor Lawrence really
going to feel that good with Travis Etn as his
pass protector in the passing game? Considering last year he
was terrible fifty eight pass blocking snaps, eight hurries, thirteen pressures.
I don't think Trevor Lawrence is sitting pretty in the
pocket with Travis Etn covering his blind side.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Interesting. Interesting, All right, So Andrew, one of your big
issues here was talking about the injuries of Travis Atn.
What about the fact that he's heard a lot. It's
a pretty good point that Derek Brown is making. Do
you have any rebuttal for that?

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Any running backs are a position that gets banged up constantly.
Every running back is at liberty to suffer an injury.
I guess in my pushback would be ET's not coming
off the massive workload like he has the last two seasons. Right.
It's the guys that are coming off the three hundred
plus touches where we're concerned about. And that's not something
I looked at enough with ETM last year when you
saw his efficiency really fall off a cliff at the

(08:17):
end of twenty twenty three, So I think that he's
just going to be a healthier running back this year.
They've already talked about using him differently. When you go
back and watch the Jaguars offense last year, it was
him running up the middle constantly banging into the tackles
in between the guards. That that's not a way to
use Travis Eten, like, get this guy in space, and
that's what they've talked about in this new offense. So
I just think Etn is going to be one of

(08:37):
the running backs that's involved alongside either t In or Bigsby.
Just like we saw with Cohen, Bucky Irving wasn't a
bell cow. For most of the Tampa Bay's season, Rashan
White and Bucky Irving were a tandem, especially on the
field at the same time. So if we're going to
copy and paste what Cohen did from a backfield perspective,
then we should expect two running backs to be involved.
And I think Etn separates himself from two In and

(08:58):
Bigsby because of what he can do as a receiver,
and not to say that he's this all world talent
at receiver. But he's better than Tank Bigsby. Who, Yeah,
you're talking about trust. Do you trust them to throw
the ball to Tank Bigsby?

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Half?

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Those half of those targets end up being interceptions and fumbles,
So that's an issue too.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
All right now, gentlemen, the jury has delivered a verdict.
Before we get to that verdict, I'm going to offer
you both arbitration because Derek Brown, I think forty five
is a little dismissive, and Andrew Erickson, I think your
ranking here of twenty eight is a little bit too much.

(09:35):
I would like to offer you an arbitration of an
ECR of thirty five. Will you meet me in the
middle or would you rather go to the jury? Andrew Rickson?
Would you accept my arbitration? Yes, Derek Brown, do you
accept my arbitration? Forty five puts him all?

Speaker 2 (09:55):
You will say the people and only if you will
say devolved from the court. If you do that, then
I'll the arbitration. Those are my terms.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
The court excepts your terms. Duvall, so worth it. We
have come to a decision. The jury, however, has ruled
in favor against drafting one Travis atn this year. So
the jury says, avoid him. Regardless, Derek Brown gets his

(10:22):
first win of his whole life right here on Fantasy
Draft court. To start wins, it's gotta start somewhere. Get
all to go down from here, Derek Brown, that's for
damn sure. So however, arbitration was accepted, we do care
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(11:06):
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All right, let us get to the next person that
we're bringing to court here today to make a settlement.
The next person we're bringing a player who I overdrafted
last year quite foolishly I was very bullish. I thought

(11:29):
nothing could go wrong, and unfortunately I forgot that Kyler
Murray was his quarterback. I had Marvin Harrison everywhere because
I had a lot of picks around ten, eleven, twelve,
and unfortunately it did not go well for me. So
I want to bring Marvin Harrison too. Account court is
now in session on Marvin Harrison Junior. The court will

(11:50):
have order Derek Brown, you have him as wide receiver
thirty Andrew Ericsson wide receiver seventeen does not see a
sophomore slump anywhere. I'm here for this young man who
did have some touchdowns here and there, had an identical
rookie season to his father, which is kind of funny
considering the lineage there and the Hall of Fame career

(12:10):
he went on to have. However, that guy had Peyton
Manning thuring him the football, not Kyler Murray, who spends
half of his time on call of duty anyway instead
of reading the playbook. So it is time for you
to convince me one way or another and our jury,
our audience here on our YouTube channel, whether we should
or should not draft Marvin Harrison junior and make it

(12:31):
quick because his wick is itchy. No, take your time,
Derek Brown, make your case against Marvin Harrison Junior, because
you clearly don't see him having a better twenty twenty
five as wide receiver thirty in your current ranks.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
I feel like I'm being very nice or generous to
Marvin Harrison Junior, considering he was the wide receiver thirty
nine and fantasy points per game, the wide receiver twenty
seven in expected fantasy points per game last year, and
what has changed. They didn't go out and add any
wide receivers of consequence, So what is going to be
his role? And how much does the assumption of rational

(13:06):
coaching and things changing get us in trouble yearly in
fantasy And this could be one of those situations. And
for Marvin Rison Junior, we could talk about Kyler Murray
and his inability to utilize the bindle of the field,
but for Marvin Errison Junior, it's the totality of all
of it. You look at last year weeks one through nine,
forty nine point six of his routes were vertical breaking

(13:27):
that's actually when he posted more efficiency zero point nine
to three yards or first downs per route run one
point ninety seven yards per route run and then we
look at okay, well, maybe the usage got better as
the year went along. It did to a certain extent.
Vertal breaking routes went down to thirty eight percent, so
it was used more in the high leverage routes that

(13:48):
we want for Marvin Harrison Junior, but his numbers declined
in the process. His first downs per route run dropped,
his yards per route run dropped to one point five.
That's wide receiver three year for territory as far as
per route efficiency. So it's tough for me to buy
in on I'm giving Marvin Harrison Junior a small upgrade

(14:10):
compared to what he did in his rookie season, but
it is tough for me to buy in on him
as a top twenty four wide receiver when nothing else changed.
Same oc, same quarterback, same target tree, and maybe same
route deployment. I don't see the jump happening for Marvin
Harrison Junior. And this is not a problem with talent.
It's a problem with quarterback. It's a problem with usage.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
All right, Well, that's true, the usage was frustrating. Marvin
Harrison Junior got really good at running routes last year,
mostly deep ones. Not exactly the most interesting branches on
the tree, that's for sure, But not much has changed
Andrew Erickson. Year over year, same QB, same system. That
can be a good thing or a bad thing, depending

(14:53):
on you look at it. One thing that has changed
is the size of Marvin Harrison's biceps. That dude's been
worse out eating the macros with Andrew Rickson. You guys
doing that hit training, is that what you're doing nowadays?
The kids doing the hit training?

Speaker 2 (15:08):
David lost some workout.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
I hear, yeah, you're doing a little the uh cross
country kind of stuff too. What are you guys working
on there? What do you have the CrossFit? Is that
what you're doing with him? You Andrew Rickson, huh huh.
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
I don't think Marvin Harrison Junior has seen a cardio
machine over the last three months. If with the size
of his arms, he's just been right on the preacher
curl machine, just preacher curls all day.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Well, Andrew Rickson, maybe that'll help him with contesta catches,
which were not his forte last year. So Andrew Rickson,
defend your ranking. Derek Brown says, he's being kind, but
I don't know at that ranking, it doesn't feel very
kind to me. So you are being kinder at wide
receiver seventeen as opposed to his wide receiver thirty. Why
is that?

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Because players are allowed to get better entering their second season.
It's actually pretty common for a lot of year two
wide receivers to have their first Fantasy wide receiver once
season is actually comes in their second year. So you
point to, well, nothing's going to change in the offense, Well,
we're all pointing to all the ways that the team
used Marvin Harrison Junior the wrong way as a rookie.

(16:10):
If we can all tell this stuff, then clearly the
coaching staff can also tell as well. They remember they
didn't draft any offensive players in the NFL Draft. They're
copy and pasting the exact same personnel from last year
going into this year, which means, okay, if they want
to get the same result last season and not make
the playoffs, okay, but then we'll just run it back.
We'll do the exact same thing. That's not gonna be
the case. I think they're going to change things up

(16:30):
and put Martin Harrison Junior in better situation to succeed
and during his second season, when you're talking about the
opportunity had last year, that's what's going to be the same.
When he had forty eight percent of the air yards
almost half, he had a twenty four percent target chair
and this was featuring games that he played indoors. You
know what's cool about the Cardinals this year. I put
it out on some of the betting shows. Thirteen indoor games,

(16:52):
the most of any NFL teams. You look at the
splits between Marvin Harrison Junior outside first inside, it's a
lot better indoors, those fast tres. So I think that
Marvion Errison Junior is primed for a sophomore bounce back
after he was vastly overvalued last year. I think that's
just leaving us sour tasing people's mouths where man, I
got burma this guy so badly the last year, I
can't draft him again. So for me, I think that

(17:15):
when you see a player that was top five and
end zone targets. Now, this is why I was pounding
the table for Jamar Chase entering his second season or
entering last year as the wide receiver one overall, because
the easiest path to a wide receiver one overall finish
is through red zone targets. And we're sitting with a
guy entering his second season after I think, yes, a
disappointing rookie year, but not terribly bad. He had one

(17:36):
drop all season, and we're riding the skuy like he's
a total bust. He had one drop and it happened
in Week one against the Buffalo Bills in that game
where he was wide open for a touchdown. So I'm
just leaving the light on for Marvion Errison improving year
two because we see it and I think that the
talent is going to be shown.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
So all right, there's some good arguments on both sides.
We will let the jury decide. Now, we'll go back
and forth here a little bit too as the jury deliberates,
because I think if you look at a sixty two reception,
eight hundred and eighty five yards, eight touchdowns for a
rookie wide receiver, that's pretty good. Maybe we put too
much on him too quickly, great college career at Ohio State,

(18:14):
obviously a famous father. Perhaps again, we were being a
little impatient with Marvin Harrison Junior's career, and sometimes we
are a little impatient sometimes it's the opinion of this
court that we have impatience and we must be more
kind to some of these young men who are trying
very hard to succeed the NFL. I think Marvin Harrison

(18:35):
Junior is committed. I think he is a very good talent.
I still have massive concerns with Kyler Murray. However, what
this judge does remember, and he's old enough to remember,
is when DeAndre Hopkins had a pretty good Fantasy season.
So everybody making jokes there and I see all the
short people jokes about Kyler Murray as a short person. Myself,
I take umbrage with those short comments boys and girls

(18:58):
in the YouTube chat. I will say this too. I
think that a little bit more patience, a little bit
more work, and maybe Marvin Harrison Junior realizes he was
resting on his own laurels and didn't expect enough. Maybe
he thought the NFL was gonna be easy for him
because he's been around it his whole life. Perhaps that
could be the case. Now, in between these two yokels,

(19:18):
we have a real ECR for Marvin Harrison Junior, and
it's twenty Now. Twenty is a lot closer to seventeen
than it is to thirty, and the expert consensus typically
is pretty darn good. Fantasypros dot com that's where you
could check that out. By the way, now, Derek Brown
all the way at thirty, that is a tough pill
for me to swallow. Now, if I could get him
at thirty, I'd like to take him at thirty, But

(19:39):
the problem is he ain't gonna be there at thirty.
Here are the other names going around. Marvin Harrison Junior
in his current ADP, DK Metcalf. Now, I don't believe
in Aaron Rodgers either, DJ Moore. I'd like to believe
in Caleb Williams, but again that's wish casting. Courtland Sutton,
I believe in it, but I don't think it's sophomore
slump man bo Nick's. It could come to mind Davante Smith.

(20:02):
He's solid, but I don't think he's got the same
kind of upside Marvin Harrison does. And then Zay Flowers,
So say, Flowers also pretty good, pretty solid, but without
the upside. So the more I look at this grouping,
the more I tend to agree with Marvin Harrison. So
I am going to send it out to the jury
and the jury agrees with me. Sixty percent is in
favor of drafting Marvin Harrison Jr. There you go to

(20:25):
the Jersey draft him.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
The rig jury.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
This court is in shambles. You watch your tongue. I'll
hold you in contempt. Derek Brown, you hold your tongue,
get tempt. You hold your tongue. Don't make me get
the bailiff bring you over there. I will put you
in jail for the evening. Don't think that I won't.
I'm looking at you, Derek Brown. I'm looking at you.

(20:50):
I gotta glue this gavel after the show that gorilla glue.
Make sure it sticks in time. Yeah, I just got
this thing and they've literally broke the first time and
it You know, nowadays you can't get a good gavel
for less than thirty dollars. I guess I don't know.
All right, let us go to the next person on
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the next one. Here, Ah, an interesting name just came

(22:13):
into this court room. He's very fast, though. We have
to catch him. We have to pin him down really
quick because the court is now in session for one
Xavier Worthy. Xavi, You're worthy. He's quick, he's fast, he's exciting,
he's fun. But he's also got a lot of company
now because Rushie Rice is going to be back, and

(22:34):
maybe Hollywood Brown will somehow find a way to play
a full season. Who knows crazy things do happen. Derek
Brown has Xavier Worthy and a wide receiver forty five. Boy,
when Derek Brown hates something, he sure does hate it.
Andrew Ericson at wide receiver twenty two. When Andrew Rickson
likes something, boy, ol boy, he sure does like it.
I don't know how I feel about either of these rankings.

(22:55):
They make me a little uncomfortable, to be honest. The
ECR is at wide receiver twenty seven, so as you
look at it, probably a little bit closer to Andrew
Erickson's taste obviously than to Derek Brown. So, Derek Brown,
why are you killing Xavier Worthy before the season has
even Begune?

Speaker 2 (23:12):
I actually think I'm being again very kind with this ranking,
considering Xavier Worthy before he earned or I guess was
handed the Rashi Rice role. Weeks one through twelve, Xavier
Worthy was wide receiver fifty one in Fantasy points per game.
So my ranking of forty five is giving growth to
Xavier Worthy with him going right back in the role

(23:34):
that he played last year. Because Rashi Rice is going
to be in the huddle. Rashi Rice is going to
be healthy and he's going to resume the role that
he plays in this offense. Because Xavier Worthy could play
the Rashi Rice role. Rashi Rice can't do the same
things as Xavier Worthy. So Worthy's going to go back
to stretching the field like we saw in weeks one

(23:55):
through twelve people when he was the wide receiver fifty one,
he earned only at the thirteen percent target share. He
had a twelve point one a dot and the design
target rate, again not in the Rashi Rice role, was
only thirteen percent. In that role, he couldn't get open
amongst one hundred and twenty four qualifying wide receivers, ninety

(24:15):
sixth in separation one hundred and eleventh in route win rate.
You team this with Patrick Mahomes of the last two
years as quietly be one of the worst deep ball
passers in the NFL. It does not equal to good
things for Exavier Worthy because Rashi Rice is reclaiming his
role and Xavier Worthy is going to go back to
being a deep threat on a team with a quarterback.

(24:36):
The unfortunately Chiefs fans cover your ears cannot throw deep
over the last two years bottom ten and Cpoe bottom
ten and off target rate. So Xavier Worthy is more
of a landmine in drafts than this wide receiver too.
That mister Ericsson is propping him up.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
As did you say? He is ninety sixth in separation
ninety six? How can a man that fast me ninety
six and seven? How is that even just possible.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Corners and keeps running right with them? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
That's that's I'll defer.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
I'll defer to the to the judge and the jury
on that one.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
You know, I gotta say that's a hell of a
stat Derek Brown, Well, you don't always impress me, but
every now and then, every now and then, you have
your moments like a broken watch. You're right twice a day,
but right now today only once. We'll see how else
show goes. Andrew Erickson, Let's take a look at you,
my friend, and see where you are at. Because, uh,

(25:32):
for a man that fast, you'd think you would get
away from people, but clearly that's not working. So Wide
Receiver twenty two. Just for perspective too, we're talking about
that other grouping where Marvin Harrison lives, where Terry McLaurin lives,
DK metcalf DJ Moorecortland Sutton. Now those guys have all
given you a little bit more of a look at
that kind of return on values. Zaviy Worthy hasn't quite

(25:52):
gotten there. So why with a returning Rushy Rice will
things be better for Xavier Worthy in twenty twenty five?

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Well, I think with Xavier Worthy, I'm not trying to
discredit for what he did in the Rashie Rice role.
You know, we've seen a lot of receivers given opportunities
when a player goes down a teammate and do nothing.
I mean, look at the Chiefs. How many times have
we looked for a Chiefs receiver to step up? Ohthough
attached to Patrick Mahomes, there's no Tyreek Kill, so mu
should step up and they never do well. Xavier Worthy,

(26:20):
as a twenty one year old rookie, stepped up in
a role that the Chiefs probably did not envision him
in whatsoever when they drafted him in the first round
of the two twenty four NFL Draft. They had Rushi
Rice to your point, they had Marquis Brown and by
the time Week four comes around, both those guys are
on injured reserve, so they had to thrust Worthy into
a bigger role than maybe they anticipated. And I mean,

(26:40):
I don't want to discredit what he did over two
yards per route run. He was also one of Patrick
Mahomes's favorite red zone targets. Everyone's talking about the Rashi
Rice role. Russia has had two red zone targets last season,
two in three games. Yeah, he had two, So did
Xavier Worthy. Xavier Worthy just had many red zone targets
as Rashi Rice did, so Patrick Mahomes showed last year. Hey,

(27:01):
I trust Xavier Worthy in the red zone. We know
Andy reid Les be creative using guys on jet sweeps,
getting them in space. Do you ever Worthy can score
a touchdown from anywhere on the field. And yeah, maybe
he had trouble getting open, but Joe, he didn't have
trouble finding the end zone last year. Twelve touchdowns. Pretty
impressive as both a rusher and a receiver. So I
think Xavier Worthy. Yes, I think that he's more of

(27:22):
a boom or bust type of pick. But we always
talk about shooting for upside, and I think Xavier Worthy
what he did at such a young age. Look, i'mine
rous Saint Brown. Remember his second year where a lot
of people are pushing back because oh, we only did
it because the injuries in the Lions offense. For a
second year receiver, oh what do he do his second season?
You know, he blew up and he broke out. So again,
I want to bet on second year receivers making the leap,

(27:44):
especially when they're attached to a guy like Patrick Mahomes,
who we've seen support Fantasy viable weapons. And to the
point about Mahomes and the deep ball, yeah, it hasn't
been great the last couple of seasons, but I think
it's going to change. I think that deep ball statistics
are there's a lot of varying would have come then
with the deep ball, Like one year you see some
quarterbacks or at the top of the league in terms
of deep ball, same with the receivers, and then the

(28:05):
next year throughout the bottom. So after two down years
from Mahomes as a deep ball passer, the fact that
they drafted Xavier Worthy where they did in twenty twenty four,
the fact that they were trying to get him more
involved downfield, I think it's gonna better again. He caught
thirty three percent of his deep shots last year. He
had twenty one deep targets and it got better in
the second half of the season. So I'm gonna bet
on the deep ball having a better connection in year

(28:26):
two and going back to what Worthy did from week
eleven onward as a rookie, one of just ten rookie
receivers to average thirteen points per game over the last
four seasons, So twenty two years old, super explosive playmaker,
Deshaun Jackson, Tyree Kill. There are second seasons under Andy
Reid as speed receivers, with some question marks both wide

(28:46):
receiver ones in year two.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
All right, all right, I have heard your arguments. I
must say I like Xavier Worthy as as a more
fashion to why I used to like Jamison Williams. He's
a splashy flex play boom or bust. Maybe he gives
me a big touchdown in a big play, maybe he doesn't,
but I don't have to rely on him, so personally,
he's not a tough thirty six guy for me. However, however,

(29:09):
forty five is also I think a little tough. As
the jury is set to deliberate here, we're deliberating the
polls up. You could vote now if you want to
draft Zavi Worthy or not. Currently like I said he
is going in the ECR the Expert Consensus Rankings as
wide receiver twenty seven. I think that's a little high.
Chris Godwin, please, I'd much rather have him, even with

(29:31):
the injury. Ted McMillan much rather have him. Jamison Williams,
much rather have him. I'll take a shot on Travis Hunter.
Even George Pickens I think has a little bit more
floor weekly then xavier'er worthy. That is this judge's opinion,
but I'd like to hear the jury's opinion here. If
we're going to draft him at this current rate, I
have to say going into the forties, where Derek Brown

(29:54):
has him Jaden Reid, I think that's close. I think
that's close at forty two Stefan Diggs. Again, I don't
like drafting hurt guys all the time, but at forty three,
there's a lot of upside there. But Dave, You're worthy close.
Josh Awn's close, Ricky Pierre so close. So I see
where Derek Brown is going, and I see what the
rock is cooking there. By the way, Andrew Rickson, you

(30:14):
addressed me as joe it's judge, Joey. Just watch your mouth,
all right? This is your first warning. There won't be
a second one. It's just just so you know. In
my room. There's rules here, pal, there's rules. Yeah, somebody
go get me a sandwich too, a sandwich, all right.
Some of the people here agree as well, Pickens over

(30:35):
Worthy in a heartbeat from father Man. There was some
other Pickens love here from Logan. Pickens is greater than Worthy,
for sure. Yet in the ECR, that's not the case,
Boys and girls, it's not the case. So I'd like
to see the results of the poll here and see
where we're at, and I don't know. Here we go,
the results are in. The jury has spoken, and I agree,

(30:58):
at the current rate we are not drafting Xavier Worthy
fifty three percent against case dismissed. Xavior Worthy will not
be on my fantasy team at the current rate. So
that puts you at a two to one deficit here.
Actually no, it's one one at an arbitration. So actually
it's a very interesting program. We've got two more people

(31:19):
left here to deliberate on, and we've got another ad
read that I'm sure I don't have a graphic for
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Speaker 2 (32:42):
It was so I would like to say the judge
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Speaker 1 (32:47):
From uh, you know, uh was it the What's that
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(33:09):
It's literally the least you can do for my pain
and suffering. Let's talk about the pain and suffering of
drafting our next guy, speak of the Devil. It's Jaden Reid.
Court for Fantasy Football is now in session. Jaden Reid
is the next defendant here. Derek Brown has a bit
wide receiver fifty seven, Andrew Erickson at thirty four. We

(33:30):
just mentioned Jaden Reid, so he is at forty two
forty two. So the expert consensus ranking is basically in Actually, no,
it's it's where Andrew Rickson is. It's actually, well, you
guys like him less than everybody thirty two, Andrew Erison
thirty four, Derek Brown at fifty seven. I told you
the wig is really it's really hindrance. I'm doing this
for your enjoyment, everybody. So let's talk about it here.

(33:53):
Let's talk about Jade Reed. So clearly you guys are
even fading him from the expert insensus, so not big
fans of Jayden Read. I don't know if this has
to do with Matthew Golden. I don't know if it
has to do with hating Jordan Love. I don't know
if this has to do with taking shots at Pafitts Morris.
I don't know. You tell me, Derek Brown wide receiver
fifty seven, proceed. The court will know how your arguments

(34:16):
against Jaden Reid at his current DCR and ADP.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Well Jaden Reid being a player that's outperformed his usage
and back to back years. Don't know if that occurs
in the third year. But last year, while he disappointed
everybody as the wide receiver thirty eight, he was the
wide receiver sixty and expected fantasy points per game. So
all I'm saying is that Jade Reid stops running hot
with touchdowns because the usage doesn't line up with where

(34:42):
he actually should be ranked where I have him in
the fifties. You look at his usage last year, he
wasn't a full time player in this offense. He was
outside the top thirty five wide receivers and deep targets
and red zone targets. So where is the high leverage
usage even when he's on the field. He was outside
the top four forty receivers in target chair, receiving yards

(35:03):
per game, first re chair, first downs per hour, run,
every single metric we should care about in fantasy. Jane
Reed was outside of all of that while also running
a route when only sixty nine percent of dropbacks. As
nice as that number is, that still only made him
sixty fourth amongst wide receivers. And looking at Jane Reed
this year, I'm more worried that we are going to

(35:24):
see the wide receiver by committee that Matt Laflora and
the Packers love so much. And maybe Jaden Reid is
on the outside looking in from that committee because the
Green Bit Packers did go out and draft Matthew Golden.
Is he taking his job? Maybe? Maybe not. But Sabion
Williams also could have something to say in this wide

(35:46):
receiver room. Who honestly he's the same archetype he's Jaden Reid.
He's dairy about Deebo Samuel, but I dare say better
possibly in that role. So does jade Red even hold
on to his starting role once we get into training
camp and Sadion is looking like the athletic Marvel, the

(36:06):
Feldman freaklister. I don't know if jade Reed is even
a starter in this offense when we get to week one.
And that's why he's in the fifties.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Also on that freak list, Andrew Erickson. We all know
that very high vertical jump. That's a different freaklist grade
forty times. Andrew Rickson's on the freak list because he
has two tequila sunrises and he is up on that bar.
He is up on that bar, and he is dancing,
and it is a good time. It is a good time.

(36:35):
I've even seen the clips from Andrew's wedding. There's nobody
I've ever seen have a better time at their own
wedding than Andrew Rickson, which is also an event that
you and I were not invited to, Derek Brown, I
just want the record. Well, the records show that we
were not invited to the wedding, Thank you. I just
don't dismissive of the judge.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Just have to throw that in there, so dismissive.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Now you think you know somebody can't You can't trust
the mail service, guys. There CROs the postal service under
the bus.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
The Yeah, the invitation was a guy lost in the mail. Yeah,
that's it, lost in the mail. Text messages don't work either. Yeah.
They just know that the open bar would have gotten
its money's worth drained. Yeah all right, So Andrew Erickson,
you know, I like Matthew Golden. I have concerns about

(37:25):
the Packers offense period. But on top of that, I
don't think like Jaden Reid disappears altogether. I feel like
Jaden Reid is a bi week wide receiver. That's my
value for Jayden Reid. So convince me otherwise, because you
have him still as a fringy wide receiver three, whereas
I think he's a four, a guy that you know,
like I said, he is a guy that uh oh,

(37:45):
so and so is out this week. All right, I'll
plug in Jayden Reid for a week and then he
goes right back to the bench. That's how I feel
about Jaden Reid. That's useful in fantasy leagues, but not
necessarily a target either. So let's get the case for
Jayden Reid. Let's let's talk about that for a moment.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Well, unlike Debro, I think he's actually going to be
a starter on his team because because he's good at football,
I think he's still going to be a starter. You
talked about efficiency metrics and things that we care about.
Yards per out run, he was top twenty. I care
about yards perrout run. He's led the Packers despite not
having a ton of targets in his offense. He has
led the Green Bay Packers in receptions and yards for

(38:22):
two straight seasons. So why would they go away from
their best wide receiver entering year three? Where I talked
about year two breakouts. The highest rate of players finishing
as wide receiver ones for the first time in their
careers thirty two percent is year three and last year.
I'm willing to give a pass to some of the
Packers wide receivers because their quarterback was injured the entire season.

(38:45):
Jordan Love got hurt in Week one. By the way,
before he got hurt, Jane Reeve was well over one
hundred yards and on his way to a sophomore breakout.
He had another one hundred yard game in week four,
in the first game that Jordan Love came back after
missing two weeks. And this team operated by Josh Jacobs
belcou because hey, we don't feel one hundred percent about
our quarterback again talking about the betting shows are the
Green Bay Packers. I think this defense is in rough shape.

(39:07):
They did not address edge, they did not address cornerback.
I think there are problems of both of those sides
of the football. So I think this team is going
to be in a lot of shootouts. The NFC North
Vikings offense, Lions offense, Bears offense ascending. Okay, so if
they're gonna be dropping back to throw more, well, what
does that mean?

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (39:23):
More three receiver sets. Oh, Janden Reid is actually playing
more because he's actually good and when you look at
him from the slot, we've seen plenty of slot receivers
succeed last year. When you look at the leaders in
reception per EPA from the slot last season, Lat McConkey
wide receiver one, JSN wide receiver one, I'm on Russ
Saint Brown wide receiver one. Jane Reid that was the
one guy. So he's showing to me all the efficiency

(39:45):
marks that I want to see from a slot receiver
that they also move in motion a ton. So I
think he's really more being drafted ahead his floor where
he was wide receiver twenty six overall last year. So
he's going to take this massive step back because they
drafted Matthew Golden, who doesn't profile as an alpha wide receiver.
If anything, if he's a field stretcher, he's going to
open things up underneath for Jayden Reid to be a
PPR slot merchant. I think so. So I'm buying the

(40:08):
talent here for a player that I like a lot
coming out of school. He hit as a rookie, he
improved his efficiency in year two. I think his quarterbacks
can be healthy in year three, So wheels up for
Jane Reed?

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Interesting? Interesting? You know what I think? Perhaps I'm not
giving Jayden Reid enough credence. I do believe that he
is a wide receiver that will, you know, still have
his opportunities. Perhaps we're not also giving enough credence to
the fact that Jordan Love was hurt most of last
year and playing hurt and not nearly as good as

(40:41):
he was. So as the jury deliberates, I'm gonna put
that question to you, Derek Brown. Does the disappointing season
of Jayden Reid have more to do with Jayden Reed
or the health of Jordan Love.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Has more to do with the health of Jordan Love,
but also the usage by their head coach. It's impossible
to really hit the top end of your outcomes when
you're only running a route on sixty nine percent of dropbacks.
So unless he's just crazy efficient with touchdowns like he
was not last year but the year before, it's impossible
to hit a high end mark for your outcomes, even

(41:13):
if it doesn't matter how efficient you are. Because I'm
not going to push back on his efficiency. It's the
usage and the drawing of targets and being on the field,
and considering with addition of Golden and Savion Williams, I
don't think the wide receiver by committee changes at all.
Romeo Dobbs is the only wide receiver on that team
that had over a seventy percent route per dropback share.

(41:34):
I mean it was Dobbs and it was Tucker Kraft,
and I don't see how the changes in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Andrew ericson what about the fact that it is such
a crowded group, you know, I mean there's more guys
in that room than there are you know at this point,
different Monster Energy Drinks and Derek Brown's refrigerator. Currently, there's
a lot of wide receivers in that space. So does
that make it difficult to get excited about Jaden Reid
for you?

Speaker 3 (42:00):
I think that And you pointed this out in the
beginning where we were both down on ECR compared to
comparative to our rankings with Jayden Reid. And that's because
if I have to pick a packer, I want Tucker
Craft right Like, that's where I would push my chips
in when I'm coming to Okay, I'll bet the tight
end is the guy that kind of emerges because we've
talked about, yes, this offense doesn't necessarily feature an alpha
wide receiver one, and that's true, but you're getting Jayden

(42:22):
Reid as a low end wide receiver three when we've
seen his spike weeks like we saw at the beginning
of last season where he's putting up over one hundred
yards because he's a dynamite after the catch, and I
just think they're going to pass a lot more so
when the Packers are in shootouts, Jayden Reid's going to
be running routes like That's the difference I think I'm
going to see more of this year is where if
the Packers are down, he's going to be out there more,
running more routes. They're not gonna be, oh yeah, we're

(42:44):
down by fourteen points. Let's take Jayane Reid off the field.
Let's run two tight end sets because that makes a
lot of sense. I believe Laflor is going to change
things up and they're going to give you their quarterback
more dropbacks, and I think that's going to help Read
a lot.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
So Jadan Reid is right now currently at again looking
at the ECR Jayden read, he'd currently going off at
forty two, the forty second wide receiver once again, just
to recap, Derek Brown has him at fifty seven Andrew
Rickson at thirty four. I'm actually where the ECR is.
I think forty something is good. Forty something is good.

(43:17):
I think fifty seven is a little insulting to Jaden
Reid and what he's done so far in his young
career over the first two seasons. And it looks like
the jury has delivered their judgment and it is sixty
percent against drafting Jaden reed. The verdicts avoid him, case dismissed.

(43:40):
You could appeal in a couple weeks to Fantasy Draft
courd if you like. But there you go. So Derek
Brown cleaning up here. He's in the pole position coming
into our final argument everyone. So here we go a
very polarizing player. I'm glad Pafitz Morris isn't here for
this one because the last guy we're gonna talk about
today is a wide receiver of the Buffalo Bill. It
is one Keon Coleman. That's right, Keon Coleman. Derek Brown

(44:04):
has him at wide receiver of fifty nine Andrew Rickson
at forty eight. You can't find a nicer guy. Key
On Coleman is lovely wide receiver. Fifty is where the
ECR is currently, so again, somewhere in between these two.
I just heard an interview with him recently where he
said he went back and watched all the tape from
last year and they asked him, what do you have
to improve on it? He said everything, And I agree, Keon.

(44:27):
I agree everything is the right answer. Blocking, route, running,
catching the football. Nice kid rooting for key On Coleman,
but that doesn't make him good at football necessarily in fantasy.
That's what we're trying to figure out here. And I
want to hear from you. Drop your comments in about
key On Coleman. What you think, what are your takes
about key On Coleman. Let's hear Derek Brown go against

(44:51):
Keon Coleman the idea of drafting him at his current ECR,
or even at Derek Brown's for that matter. Derek Brown,
the court will now hear your arguments.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
If only Keon Coleman scored fantasy points with all the
quotables that he has in the media, then we would
be loving Keon Coleman. But he doesn't, and unfortunately, Kean
Coleman doesn't do the one thing that we care about
besides scoring fantasy points, and that's getting open and getting
usage in the Buffalo Bills offense. Last year again, wide
receiver fifty five and fantasy points per game. So my

(45:22):
fifty nine ranking is a little bit lower than that.
So I'm not projecting the hed take a step forward, Nay.
I think he takes a step back in this pecking
order because last year, the Buffalo Bills drafted Keon Coleman
to be their man coverage option, the guy that beats
man coverage and was josh Allen C's pre snapman coverage.
He's going to Kean Coleman, and Keon Coleman could not deliver.

(45:45):
If you look at Kean Coleman last year, he had
a twenty seven percent target per route run rate against
man coverage. Against zone that dropped to fourteen percent. Now
why all this matters is because they brought in a
guy that actually can excel against man coverage, and that
is Joshua Palmer, who is fifth in route win rate,

(46:06):
fifth in separation against man coverage last year as well
as quietly being top fifteen overall in both of those metrics.
So Joshua Palmer is taking Keon Coleman's role in this
offense this year, and if that happens, Kean Coleman's going
to be what the guy that they go to against
zone coverage. No, that's the role for Elijah Moore, Khalilshakir

(46:31):
and Dalton Kinkaid as well as he can't get open
versus own coverage. Keon Coleman amongst one hundred and twenty
eight qualifying wide receivers versus his own last year one
hundred and twenty fifth in separation, eighty eighth in route
win rate. So if he doesn't have this man coverage role,
which is going to be fruitful for Josh Palmer considering

(46:52):
Buffalo has faced They've been inside the top five in
man coverage face in each of the last three seasons,
so Buffalo knows this is a role that they have
to have somebody dependable who will be Josh Palmer and
not Kean Coleman. So without that role, Ken Coleman's gonna
be running wind sprints. He's gonna be on the outside
looking in.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Interesting interesting take. Also interesting, bring up Josh Palmer. He's
also fifth in soft tissue injuries in the lower half
of his body over the last two years as well,
So I don't know how reliable he is. Just that
a fun conversation. You can go check it on our
YouTube channel. Should be up there later today where actually
Turell Furman was talking about Josh Palmer as well, So

(47:34):
I don't know if that makes you feel better or worse, Derek.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Josh Palmer also ericson a former Josh Palmer. Stan would
like to present that importance that.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Is that is the rub because of his one not
just former.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I have heard Josh Palmer and Nico Collins in the
same sentence.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Or in this courtroom crap, my gavel broke again back together?

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Is that a gavel? Can you bring the court to order?

Speaker 3 (48:00):
I can?

Speaker 1 (48:01):
I'm asking for the people at home. I can.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
I don't want to be remained by the way.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
We need to pull up. How do I look in
this wig? Sexy or very sexy? Those are the two options.
Andrew Erickson, Josh Palmer is now here, Khalil Shakir still around,
James Cook catching a lot of footballs uh. The post
Stephan Diggs era in Buffalo certainly was different last year.

(48:26):
I don't think anybody quite saw how it developed. Developing
now what it looks like in this second year removed
from Stefon Diggs is also intriguing. Do you believe the
key On Coleman can step into that void and get
better at quote unquote everything in year two because we
do see a lot of wide receivers break out in
their second season.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Yes, we do. We also see, in josh Palmer's point,
we also see a lot of receivers break out in
year five on new teams. So I don't think there's
a reason why you can't draft both Kean Coleman and
Joshua Palmer because both of them are very cheap and
they're attached to a quarterback like josh Allen. But when
it comes to specifically with Kean Coleman, you have to

(49:07):
factor in that he got hurt in the middle of
the season, and we see injuries completely derailed rookies, especially
when they happened early in the season. Before that mid
season wrist injury, which was weird. It seemed like a
lot of guys were getting banged up Risks last year.
Kind of a weird injury, But he was emerging for
the Buffalo Bills, averaging over two yards per rat run
very high in terms of receiving yards over expectation. And

(49:28):
the thing that stuck out to me was in terms
of some of his efficiency. He was great after the catch.
He was top ten yards after the catch per reception.
He's also top ten and average up of target, and
those things go against each other. It's hard to create
chunk yards after the catch, but we're also seeing a
lot of downfield targets. Now to Debro's point about separation, yeah,
he's not a great separator. He wasn't a great separator

(49:48):
of floor state and to no surprise, he's not that
great of a separate the NFL Like that's not really shocking.
But what the Bills do do with him, specifically with
Josh Allen, he goes to in the red zone a lot,
led the team in red zone targets before his injury.
I remember reading the beat reports last year in training camp,
Josh Allen, who's his favorite red zone target? Not Dalton

(50:08):
King gad it was keyon Coleman. So if we're all
projecting James Cook to oh touchdown regression touchdowns, there's no
way he's going to score as many touchdowns. Then who's
scoring the touchdowns in this offense. I think it's going
to be keyon Coleman. So when I'm looking at receivers
that can guess my wide receiver for that have a
full time role in an offense attached to Josh Allen
with red zone upside, I want that guy's my wide

(50:31):
receiver for my bench. And if it happens to be
Josh Palmer instead, like okay, that's fine. I just really
feel really confident that there is a breakout potential Bills
receiver on this roster and just making a bet to
Josh Allen, I think it's a lay up bet to make.
So I'm not really up keyon Coleman as that guy,
but I'd be open to Josh Palmer as another option
as well. So that's the way I see it.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
The court would like to submit evidence evidence here. Something
that Andrew Erickson was discussing. What we have here is
we have Jackson Smith and Jig but rookie season handered
by injury as well. Very disappointing. I've also believe a
wrist injury. Can we get the judges yes? Now? The

(51:13):
wrist injury, second year breakout we saw from Jackson Smith
and jigbook. So just let the jury know that piece
of evidence has been submitted here and now the jury
may deliberate based on that evidence. This is a second
year wide receiver. Second year wide receiver breakouts can be

(51:33):
a thing. Josh Allen is an MVP caliber quarterback. We
know that. Can he improve key on Coleman year over year.
The jury is now deliberating. You know, it's funny for
the judge. The judge, you may approach the bench. Yes,
I'm listening.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
I need a special session with the judge.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
I just have one question. Did those glasses come with
the wig? No, I've had them. That's old man Joe.
You've seen Old Man Joe. These are the glasses I
wear when I yell at the clouds. And we liked it.
We drafted to my day, we drafted ten running backs
in the first round and we liked it. That's the
way we played fantasy football. I don't need a point

(52:14):
for a reception. I don't need any points. We never
had points for anything. You just drafted players and then
he went home and he got drunk, and then you
watch football. And that's how we played, and we liked it.
Half point quarter point tight end premium. What the hell
is that? Damn it. Anyway, the jury has deliberated and

(52:37):
decided the fate of Keon Coleman. This one was very close,
razor thin. Fifty six percent say they are not drafting
Keon Coleman. I disagree. At wide receiver fifty where he is,
I would be drafting him over Rashid Shahid. I mean
one plays with Tyler Shuck, the other place with Josh Allen,

(52:58):
my god, Luther bird in Okay. You know, I'm thinking
of the other guys around here, and I think a
wide receiver fifty is right where key On Coleman needs
to be. So in a dissenting opinion that I will
be writing after this program, I descend from this decision
by the jury. I will instead award this to Andrew
Erickson because I do think at wide receiver fifty.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Kano, you were gonna win.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
It doesn't matter the jury.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
But this is Judge Joey at the end of the day.
Is Judge Joey's court. No, it's not, it's mine. Don't
ever forget it. This is the people's court. It's a
kangaroo court, and I'm the kangaroo and ladies and gentlemen.
This is one of many additions of Fantasy Football Court.
You can enjoy a year on our YouTube channel. Again,
do we get the results of the poll? The Draft

(53:51):
court here Tuesday three pm Eastern next week right here
on the channel. Join us for Draft Court and I'll
be wearing this one again. Do we get results of
the poll? How do I look in this wig? Sexy
or very sexy? Because I feel like that's a very
important result. I'd like to know. Pull it up. Oh,
I think one or two went up with this wig.
Let me tell you this is a good looking wig.

(54:13):
My friends. Look, I look very handsome in this. But
it's a different poll. I don't think. I want to
thank you. I want to thank our two lawyers today,
Derek Brown Andrew Erickson, for preparing our arguments. I want
to thank everyone for joining us today in the jury
here and being very fun and discussing all of these
wide receivers and running backs that they may or may

(54:35):
not want a draft Again. Join us on the YouTube channel. Subscribe,
drop your comments below. You might win yourself a James
Cook autographed jersey from Pristine Auction. I would show it
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and just like that, you're automatically in this. To win this,
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(54:56):
ring the belts, and that goes ding for notification. So you
never miss a piece of content here on the channels,
like good look in Jersey. It's red matches Debro's face
when I say embarrassing things here on the channel. That'll
do it for us. But the story of the game
goes on for Andrew Rickson and Derek Brown. I'm Judge Joey.
We'll see you next time. Kids. This court is adjourned.

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