November 12, 2025 • 11 mins
When Charlie went on a first date with Penelope, he thought showing off his “plant confidence” would impress her… until it turned into a toxic situation, literally. From poisonous leaves to public meltdowns, this First Date Follow Up spirals into one of the wildest dating stories you’ll ever hear. Will Charlie’s “heroic” moment cost him a second date, or can he plant the seed for redemption?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
First Day to follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury
Attorneys online at adjocuslad dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Charlie is on the phone today for a first date
follow up, and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Penelope.
So in a few minutes we're gonna call her and
see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and
maybe get him a second date. But first, Charlie, how
long has it been since you heard from Penelope?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Well, the ghost watch has been on for about a
full week now.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Oh no, nothing. Ghost watch sounds like you have a
sense of humor about it.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yeah, but I mean since seven days it's this twenty
you got to know it's I get the feeling it's
a decision.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Have you tried to break the no contact? Uh?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Not really, it's just kind of I just want to
kind of see what's going on. I mean, I haven't
really reached out, but I think that was just something
that may have gone wrong last time we met, and
maybe it led to something, and I hope it didn't.
Something had to change. I just feel like something had
to change, you know. And I mean I think she's
(01:02):
a great person. I think she's a very school elegant girl.
You know the type of drinks herbal tea and keith
me plant alive emotionally, So what.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Did you guys do for your date?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Then took me to an indoor plant terrain terrarium. It's
my pronunciation is that she's saying terranium, but I know
something terrarium, right, someone where indoor plants are a workshop,
because it just seems like she had that vibe she had,
like that calm. We got a girl calm, confident, she
has that raspee. I read novels in bed type voice,
(01:37):
you know, ug cozy, earthy. So we were like, you know,
it was some botany into the business. We're at this thing,
so let me just say that we're at this workshop.
And the guide said something basically said, don't touch anything
behind the velvet velvet rope because some plants are just
toxic to skin. And that I told her that, uh
(01:58):
I know my way around foliage, like he said, as
smooth as I could, as confident as a kid. Reached
over that rope, and uh I touched a shiny leaf there.
I don't really know how to describe it. Too off
like a shiny leaf. It just looked like royalty, right, okay,
and so next to the sign that says like costic sap,
(02:18):
don't handle you know, but that just makes me want
to grab it more so. So yeah, that's why I do.
Like he told me not to do something, I want
to do it. I'm obsessed. So I go, I try
to shake my hand off of the SAT, wipe it
off my shirt, and then wipe it on a brush shore.
I wiped it on a fern and then they handed
(02:39):
me a white like wet wipes custom wipes, and uh
and yeah, she just had this look on her face
like there was this was just an absolute, uh train wreck.
But you know, I wanted to show her that, you know,
the guy who's willing to touch poison for her.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
So you said out and touch poison for you.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, but it was cool after.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I'm just trying to get this straight.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
The person that was conducting the stuff told you don't
touch the plants because it's it's gonna it's toxic. Then
on the other side of the rope there's a sign
that says don't touch the plants because it's toxic, and
then you touch the plants.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I just want to be double negative, okay, double negative.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
I mean there's a chance. Yeah, there is a chance
that this could be the reason you're getting goes to
every day. Is amazing.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
I'm sorry, I love it.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I think there was anything wrong with it because she
she nudged my shoulder. You know that's touch. We shared
a lavender tea. Oh he said she had plant enthusiasm energy.
Said to me that I had this energy, just plant
enthusiasm energy. We had a vibe. You don't just sip
hammer meal next to moss art with someone if you're
(03:50):
not spiritually linked. And the link is there, And one
minute we're breathing in you to lift this fog together,
which smells great, and the next minute she's gone, like
vera goolds. Now I'm ghosted, days lost, confused, and I
don't know if it's still poisoned. But oh no, like
it's been a week. I'm doing it fine. But yeah,
(04:13):
I just you know, she's okay, Well what what what happened?
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Well, let's call her and find out.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
We'll play a song, come back and then call her
and see if hotls why she's ghosting you and maybe
get you a second date.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Okay, yeah, you got it, all right, we'll get your first.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Day follow up next right the middle of your first
date follow up and if you're just joining us, Charlie
is on the phone and he's getting ghosted by Penelope.
So we're about to call her and see iftas why
she's ghosting him and maybe get him a second date.
But first, before we do that, Charlie, whyn't you break
down your situation again real quick?
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Met this girls very independent, had a nice vibe out there,
so she seemed like the type would go out to
a terrarium check out some plants. They told me not to.
I touched a few of them and see, you know,
things got a little weird and I just want to
know what ghosted me.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
He sounds like a funny guy, Charlie, but also a
wild time. All right, are you ready for us to
call her?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, let's get it.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Let's all right, here we go.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Let's you think.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Him as speaks? Penelope? Please, Hey Penelope? How are you?
This is a radio show. It's called The Jubil Show.
Hi Penelope, I'm Nina. Hi I'm Victorian. How are you?
Speaker 6 (05:37):
I'm okay? Wait? Are the radio show school? Okay?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I don't know, but we do do a segment called
the First Night follow up on our show. That's where
if you go on a date with someone and you
ghost them, that person can email us to ask why
you're ghosting them.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
And we got an email about you from someone.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
Oh interesting, Okay, this is just there, all right, gone.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So is there anybody that you can think of that
you went out with recently that you have been ghosting?
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Yeah, there's one guy I can think of.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Okay, what's his name?
Speaker 6 (06:15):
His name is Charlie.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yes, it is Charlie.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Charlie dad and told us about your dates that he
really liked you and he's wondering why you're not getting
back to him, and would you mind telling us.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
I don't know what he told you.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
But this guy touched some poisonous step and stung his
hand like it was very traumatizing, kind of funny, but.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
It was weird. It threw me off.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And just when things are getting back on track, like
during the date, he yelled.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
At this lady who was leading this date, like.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
The events of the day and this remember he had
touched poisonous step.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
So but he blamed her for not warning him about
the dangers of them. And I mean, you literally asked
to speak to a manager like a supervisor. Here's a
really big turn off.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Oh, hold on, I wasn't yelling. I was advocating for
public safety. I mean, if there's stop to coly at present,
I deserve.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
A fair warning what that action is going on right now?
So weird.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
That's actually Charlie. He's on the other line listening and
wants to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah. And I wasn't yelling. Okay, Oh, I was not yelling. Okay,
this is I want. I want the people to know
it was advocating for public safety. There is a bulliage
present in this small establishment. Yeah. I know there were signs,
but you should see how small that sign was. Like
I couldn't even finish reading it until my hand was
(07:47):
already like an inch into the stap. I already had
figures in the step like a comb in the honey
when I already went I read that sign. It was
so small it should not count. I mean, what if
my hand gone dumb? What if I had lost mobility?
What if I kind of the T shirt shirt.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Kili it tingled? Your hand literally tangled. You weren't like
trekking through the Amazon. You gently brush a shiny leaf
in a climatron like you're next to a bluetique key
there like worse.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
There's a team rate there. There's like an herbarium, like
you can't. This wasn't the jungle.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I know you know your cheese way more than I
know te's all right. All I know about teas is
how to cross them in dots of eyes like it
could have been worse. It was risk. Okay, myceuticles were
fully exposed.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
You wanted to risk, Charlie, I'm so confused.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, like, well, yeah, I'm a ban of danger, but
I want to set an example for future skids and
people in my shoes to not have to run in
such terrible set Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Okay, Princess Betuna, it wasn't a plant staff. It's not
like it's nae palm or anything.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Geez.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
She should have worn a setter. There was no urgency, none.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
No, she literally said, please do not touch anything behind
the velvet rope. Some stants are toxic. Those the first
thing she said, I'm pretty sure, tell us pretty clear
that for the rest of the night.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
She said it like please recycle, not like touch that
and you might lose a finger.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Oh my god, She's put the scream at like it
required a dramatic head talk.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Or something like somebody's just saying, don't touch something behind
a rope, literally just mean don't touch that.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I was actually trying to impress you because I said
I knew I was submitted.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Well, you committed for sure to a rash and basically
an apology toward the whole night.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Oh, I apologize a ferd. I wiped my shirt on. Yes, shea,
it was an innocent fern had no business seeing part
of the.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Ride, right, you apologize to the plant before you apologize
to the lady that you scolded. But like that was weird.
It was a little symbolic of how you really live
on Well.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Of course she had a dad, she was in a
position of power. She's a public figures something intridiculous.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
It wasn't the plant anyway, that got Blaming someone else
for your mistake is just not my vibe. I found
accountability more attractive than like lying and passing it off,
you know.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Right choice accountability.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I washed my hand, Yeah, and then you blame the
poor woman named Cheryl who just wanted to talk to
us about succulents.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Like that was the moment that I could do it anymore?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Would you like another date with Charlie, will pay for it.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
No, I'm sorry, guys.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I really am into men who like take responsibility for
their actions, not men who choose the wage of verbal
war with the indoor garden gardening staff or other ferns
that couldn't do anything.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
And for the record, I want you to know I
did not wage war. Okay, this was a sperm conversation
that sween responsible adults.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
No, it was not. You asked for the supervisor like
some caring I'm business. That's why we're done you guys.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
That was the fird's doing well. Well.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
The friend handled everything better than you did. Charlie. Okay,
you will first date fall up
First Day to follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury
Attorneys online at adjocuslad dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Charlie is on the phone today for a first date
follow up, and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Penelope.
So in a few minutes we're gonna call her and
see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and
maybe get him a second date. But first, Charlie, how
long has it been since you heard from Penelope?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Well, the ghost watch has been on for about a
full week now.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Oh no, nothing. Ghost watch sounds like you have a
sense of humor about it.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yeah, but I mean since seven days it's this twenty
you got to know it's I get the feeling it's
a decision.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Have you tried to break the no contact? Uh?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Not really, it's just kind of I just want to
kind of see what's going on. I mean, I haven't
really reached out, but I think that was just something
that may have gone wrong last time we met, and
maybe it led to something, and I hope it didn't.
Something had to change. I just feel like something had
to change, you know. And I mean I think she's
(01:02):
a great person. I think she's a very school elegant girl.
You know the type of drinks herbal tea and keith
me plant alive emotionally, So what.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Did you guys do for your date?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Then took me to an indoor plant terrain terrarium. It's
my pronunciation is that she's saying terranium, but I know
something terrarium, right, someone where indoor plants are a workshop,
because it just seems like she had that vibe she had,
like that calm. We got a girl calm, confident, she
has that raspee. I read novels in bed type voice,
(01:37):
you know, ug cozy, earthy. So we were like, you know,
it was some botany into the business. We're at this thing,
so let me just say that we're at this workshop.
And the guide said something basically said, don't touch anything
behind the velvet velvet rope because some plants are just
toxic to skin. And that I told her that, uh
(01:58):
I know my way around foliage, like he said, as
smooth as I could, as confident as a kid. Reached
over that rope, and uh I touched a shiny leaf there.
I don't really know how to describe it. Too off
like a shiny leaf. It just looked like royalty, right, okay,
and so next to the sign that says like costic sap,
(02:18):
don't handle you know, but that just makes me want
to grab it more so. So yeah, that's why I do.
Like he told me not to do something, I want
to do it. I'm obsessed. So I go, I try
to shake my hand off of the SAT, wipe it
off my shirt, and then wipe it on a brush shore.
I wiped it on a fern and then they handed
(02:39):
me a white like wet wipes custom wipes, and uh
and yeah, she just had this look on her face
like there was this was just an absolute, uh train wreck.
But you know, I wanted to show her that, you know,
the guy who's willing to touch poison for her.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
So you said out and touch poison for you.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, but it was cool after.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I'm just trying to get this straight.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
The person that was conducting the stuff told you don't
touch the plants because it's it's gonna it's toxic. Then
on the other side of the rope there's a sign
that says don't touch the plants because it's toxic, and
then you touch the plants.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I just want to be double negative, okay, double negative.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
I mean there's a chance. Yeah, there is a chance
that this could be the reason you're getting goes to
every day. Is amazing.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
I'm sorry, I love it.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I think there was anything wrong with it because she
she nudged my shoulder. You know that's touch. We shared
a lavender tea. Oh he said she had plant enthusiasm energy.
Said to me that I had this energy, just plant
enthusiasm energy. We had a vibe. You don't just sip
hammer meal next to moss art with someone if you're
(03:50):
not spiritually linked. And the link is there, And one
minute we're breathing in you to lift this fog together,
which smells great, and the next minute she's gone, like
vera goolds. Now I'm ghosted, days lost, confused, and I
don't know if it's still poisoned. But oh no, like
it's been a week. I'm doing it fine. But yeah,
(04:13):
I just you know, she's okay, Well what what what happened?
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Well, let's call her and find out.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
We'll play a song, come back and then call her
and see if hotls why she's ghosting you and maybe
get you a second date.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Okay, yeah, you got it, all right, we'll get your first.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Day follow up next right the middle of your first
date follow up and if you're just joining us, Charlie
is on the phone and he's getting ghosted by Penelope.
So we're about to call her and see iftas why
she's ghosting him and maybe get him a second date.
But first, before we do that, Charlie, whyn't you break
down your situation again real quick?
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Met this girls very independent, had a nice vibe out there,
so she seemed like the type would go out to
a terrarium check out some plants. They told me not to.
I touched a few of them and see, you know,
things got a little weird and I just want to
know what ghosted me.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
He sounds like a funny guy, Charlie, but also a
wild time. All right, are you ready for us to
call her?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, let's get it.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Let's all right, here we go.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Let's you think.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Him as speaks? Penelope? Please, Hey Penelope? How are you?
This is a radio show. It's called The Jubil Show.
Hi Penelope, I'm Nina. Hi I'm Victorian. How are you?
Speaker 6 (05:37):
I'm okay? Wait? Are the radio show school? Okay?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I don't know, but we do do a segment called
the First Night follow up on our show. That's where
if you go on a date with someone and you
ghost them, that person can email us to ask why
you're ghosting them.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
And we got an email about you from someone.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
Oh interesting, Okay, this is just there, all right, gone.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So is there anybody that you can think of that
you went out with recently that you have been ghosting?
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Yeah, there's one guy I can think of.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Okay, what's his name?
Speaker 6 (06:15):
His name is Charlie.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yes, it is Charlie.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Charlie dad and told us about your dates that he
really liked you and he's wondering why you're not getting
back to him, and would you mind telling us.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
I don't know what he told you.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
But this guy touched some poisonous step and stung his
hand like it was very traumatizing, kind of funny, but.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
It was weird. It threw me off.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And just when things are getting back on track, like
during the date, he yelled.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
At this lady who was leading this date, like.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
The events of the day and this remember he had
touched poisonous step.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
So but he blamed her for not warning him about
the dangers of them. And I mean, you literally asked
to speak to a manager like a supervisor. Here's a
really big turn off.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Oh, hold on, I wasn't yelling. I was advocating for
public safety. I mean, if there's stop to coly at present,
I deserve.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
A fair warning what that action is going on right now?
So weird.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
That's actually Charlie. He's on the other line listening and
wants to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah. And I wasn't yelling. Okay, Oh, I was not yelling. Okay,
this is I want. I want the people to know
it was advocating for public safety. There is a bulliage
present in this small establishment. Yeah. I know there were signs,
but you should see how small that sign was. Like
I couldn't even finish reading it until my hand was
(07:47):
already like an inch into the stap. I already had
figures in the step like a comb in the honey
when I already went I read that sign. It was
so small it should not count. I mean, what if
my hand gone dumb? What if I had lost mobility?
What if I kind of the T shirt shirt.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Kili it tingled? Your hand literally tangled. You weren't like
trekking through the Amazon. You gently brush a shiny leaf
in a climatron like you're next to a bluetique key
there like worse.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
There's a team rate there. There's like an herbarium, like
you can't. This wasn't the jungle.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I know you know your cheese way more than I
know te's all right. All I know about teas is
how to cross them in dots of eyes like it
could have been worse. It was risk. Okay, myceuticles were
fully exposed.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
You wanted to risk, Charlie, I'm so confused.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, like, well, yeah, I'm a ban of danger, but
I want to set an example for future skids and
people in my shoes to not have to run in
such terrible set Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Okay, Princess Betuna, it wasn't a plant staff. It's not
like it's nae palm or anything.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Geez.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
She should have worn a setter. There was no urgency, none.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
No, she literally said, please do not touch anything behind
the velvet rope. Some stants are toxic. Those the first
thing she said, I'm pretty sure, tell us pretty clear
that for the rest of the night.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
She said it like please recycle, not like touch that
and you might lose a finger.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Oh my god, She's put the scream at like it
required a dramatic head talk.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Or something like somebody's just saying, don't touch something behind
a rope, literally just mean don't touch that.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I was actually trying to impress you because I said
I knew I was submitted.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Well, you committed for sure to a rash and basically
an apology toward the whole night.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Oh, I apologize a ferd. I wiped my shirt on. Yes, shea,
it was an innocent fern had no business seeing part
of the.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Ride, right, you apologize to the plant before you apologize
to the lady that you scolded. But like that was weird.
It was a little symbolic of how you really live
on Well.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Of course she had a dad, she was in a
position of power. She's a public figures something intridiculous.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
It wasn't the plant anyway, that got Blaming someone else
for your mistake is just not my vibe. I found
accountability more attractive than like lying and passing it off,
you know.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Right choice accountability.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I washed my hand, Yeah, and then you blame the
poor woman named Cheryl who just wanted to talk to
us about succulents.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Like that was the moment that I could do it anymore?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Would you like another date with Charlie, will pay for it.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
No, I'm sorry, guys.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I really am into men who like take responsibility for
their actions, not men who choose the wage of verbal
war with the indoor garden gardening staff or other ferns
that couldn't do anything.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
And for the record, I want you to know I
did not wage war. Okay, this was a sperm conversation
that sween responsible adults.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
No, it was not. You asked for the supervisor like
some caring I'm business. That's why we're done you guys.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
That was the fird's doing well. Well.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
The friend handled everything better than you did. Charlie. Okay,
you will first date fall up
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Rewarded for bravery that goes above and beyond the call of duty, the Medal of Honor is the United States’ top military decoration. The stories we tell are about the heroes who have distinguished themselves by acts of heroism and courage that have saved lives. From Judith Resnik, the second woman in space, to Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice, these are stories about those who have done the improbable and unexpected, who have sacrificed something in the name of something much bigger than themselves. Every Wednesday on Medal of Honor, uncover what their experiences tell us about the nature of sacrifice, why people put their lives in danger for others, and what happens after you’ve become a hero. Special thanks to series creator Dan McGinn, to the Congressional Medal of Honor Society and Adam Plumpton. Medal of Honor begins on May 28. Subscribe to Pushkin+ to hear ad-free episodes one week early. Find Pushkin+ on the Medal of Honor show page in Apple or at Pushkin.fm. Subscribe on Apple: apple.co/pushkin Subscribe on Pushkin: pushkin.fm/plus
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com