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February 26, 2026 11 mins

Emma thought she found a real connection with Kyle after a fun escape room first date 🔐❤️ — but then he suddenly disappeared. Weeks later, she still wants answers. Did something awkward happen… or was it one small moment that changed everything? 😬

Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out!
 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Emma is on the phone today for our first day
follow up, and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Kyle.
So in a few minutes we'll call him and see
if you tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe
get her another date. But first, Emma, how long has
it been since you heard from Kyle.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Gosh?

Speaker 4 (00:19):
I want to say it's been about like three weeks,
three or four weeks?

Speaker 5 (00:23):
Oh, and been long? Why do you want to get
a hold of him?

Speaker 4 (00:29):
Okay, I mean, if I can be totally honest, it's
because I know it's kind of cheasy to say because
it was just one date, but I really felt like
there was a connection, Like I really feel like there
was something there.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Yeah, I mean the date went so well, and you know,
we did like a whole escape room thing, which.

Speaker 5 (00:49):
I thought would be pretty fun fun.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Ye yeah, I mean I love solving puzzles, and you know,
it seemed like we were both really working well together.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
You know, I was kind of the brains.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
He was kind of like the muscle moving stuff around,
helping us, you know, tall clues, and it just felt like,
I don't know, it almost didn't even feel like it
was a first date. We you know, even let so
much time pass that it was like past dinner time
and we hadn't ate anything yet, so then we decided
to like stop and get somebody to eat. It was

(01:22):
so casual. I am. I'm very much a person who
kind of overthinks on the first date, and I get
very nervous usually, but I didn't feel anything like that
with Kyle. I feel like he was also kind of
feeling the vibe too, and the way he was looking
at me and talking to me and telling me things. Yeah,

(01:46):
I just I felt so safe and comfortable.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
And it's always so hard to know that you feel
that way, and it's kind of like it's impossible that
the other person didn't feel something right, Like don't you
always feel that way exactly? Yeah, what could have been
the reason why he's disappeared now?

Speaker 5 (02:03):
If it was that intense.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
I've really been trying to pin this down, and I mean,
I'm not totally sure, but the only thing that I
can kind of think of is that I can sometimes
get a little bit into the games, like I do
get competitive to a certain point, but I did tell
him this in advance, and I tried to kind of

(02:27):
just brush it off in more of like a flirtatious way,
Like there was one puzzle that he just wasn't getting,
Like it was, you know, like a word clue thing,
and it was so obvious to me, and he just
wasn't getting it. And I just joked with him. I
was like, well, you're lucky. You're so pretty, you know, Like, well, okay,

(02:54):
I didn't say that, but and it's my own fault,
like I know, I probably could have done better out that,
but that's the only thing that I can think of.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Okay, Well, how did it end with him?

Speaker 4 (03:06):
I mean, I thought it ended so well. We didn't
like fully confirm going on a second day, but we
both said the whole like, oh, you know, like I
had a great time. I'd like to do it again sometime.
And we both said that at the end, and we
exchanged you know, like we still had, you know, our
phone numbers and stuff, and and then I tried to

(03:28):
text him the next day and I didn't hear anything.
And then I tried again, you know, a couple of
days later, and then nothing. And I did try again,
you know a few more times, but I haven't.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, I will say.

Speaker 6 (03:43):
If there's one thing I normally hear on all these
it's that after every single time they go on a
first day they everyone says like, oh, mars, like we
should this again.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
Some time, or like, yeah, that's polite.

Speaker 6 (03:53):
I think it's honestly just a polite thing people say,
because I've said it before.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
Knowing that, I was like, huh, so, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (04:00):
It sucks because you, like you thought it was a
really great date, and you in your head is like, oh,
he wants to go see me again. But at the
same time, he could just be doing it to be polite.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
Well, that's heartbreaking, that's sad.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
I know.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
That's like.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Emma is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by Kyle.
So we're about to call him and see if he'll
tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her
another date. But first, Emma, why don't you break down
your date for us a war time.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yeah, Kyle and I went out a few weeks ago.
We had a great first date.

Speaker 7 (04:30):
We did an.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Escape room, we had you know, dinner afterwards. It felt
like we were both on the same page. We were vibing,
we were laughing, we were having fun, and we both
said that we were wanting to see each other again.
But then I never heard back from him.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
All right, well you did kind of imply that he
wasn't ye the smartest.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
So yeah, there was that. All right, Well, are you
ready for us to see if we can figure it out?

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (04:58):
I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Okay, Hey it's.

Speaker 8 (05:11):
Kyle, Kyle.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
How are you. This is a radio show. It's called
The Jubil Show. Hi, Kyle. My name is Nina, Hi,
and I'm Victoria and I'm Jebel.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
How's it going, Hey, guys, it's going, it's going.

Speaker 8 (05:22):
It's going pretty good.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
How's it going?

Speaker 8 (05:24):
Guy?

Speaker 5 (05:24):
Good for asking? Have you ever listened to the show before?

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Well, we do a segment on the show called the
First eight follow Up, So whear if you go out
on a date with somebody and you ghost them, they
can email us to call you and figure out why
you're ghosting them. So we got an email about you
from somebody, Kyle, that's why we're calling.

Speaker 7 (05:42):
Uh huh, Yeah, yeah, for sure. I think I think
I've been familiar with it.

Speaker 8 (05:48):
Let me guess he's been.

Speaker 7 (05:50):
Texting me a ton no surprises on.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
This is it, Emma, Yes, it is Emma. Do you
have time to tell us why your ghosts her?

Speaker 8 (06:01):
Uh? Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 7 (06:05):
Look, I mean, look, I mean I don't know if
I mean, the day was really fun. I thought it was.
I thought it was a good time. I mean she
was really really gorgeous, and I mean I think she means, well,
I'm just kind of a I don't know, I'm bumm,
because I mean I was pretty attracted to her. I
was like really feeling something with her, and uh, it
turns out I don't know, it's kind of crazy, but
she's like a she's a pretty specific kind of girl,

(06:28):
and it just kind of rubs me the wrong.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Way sort of right.

Speaker 8 (06:31):
So after our date, she she sends me, she sends me.

Speaker 7 (06:34):
A Venmo request for half of our uber rides. People
that send like Venmo requests without like a heads up,
that's like a different kind of passive aggressive. And this
is where an uber ride that was like twenty five bucks.
So like I paid it and I just kind of
checked out with her.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
I don't know, Wait, wait a minute, sorry, did that's
the reason why you ghosted me?

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Hey, Kyle. That's she's on the phone and wants to
talk to you.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
By the way, Yeah, to jump in, like it was
your you're you ghosted me over twelve dollars and fifty cents?

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Did you send them?

Speaker 4 (07:08):
I mean I did.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
It's like, ye, I didn't.

Speaker 7 (07:13):
Sorry, I just I didn't even make it. I don't
even make like a big thing or anything like that. Yeah,
it just it's just it's felt kind of weird, dude,
I don't know, but you made.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
It a big thing like it's it was a twenty
five dollars ride, like I was. I just supposed to
just not like just deal with it like it was
a first date. I feel like that's just a very
common expense expectancy to like split things.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Did you guys split everything else on the date?

Speaker 5 (07:40):
Yeah? My thing is this is my thing?

Speaker 8 (07:42):
Though?

Speaker 7 (07:42):
Is that so to me this has like nothing to
do with like the money, Like I don't care about
this splitting the money, the fees, the twenty five dollars,
But I don't even care about that.

Speaker 8 (07:52):
To me is like this is a communication thing.

Speaker 7 (07:55):
Do you kind of know what I mean by that?
So it's like we hadn't even had our first post
date conversation before you're like sending me these Venmo requests
without like hitting me up about like or even just
texting me or even just like talking to me. It
felt like, I don't know that could be like our future, right,
it's just passive aggressive comments, actions and stuff like that.

(08:16):
I really, I just I can't really handle that. I'm
kind of good. I'm an adult and I appreciate straightforward
communications just to be honest about it.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
So would you have rather her text you and be like, hey,
do you mind if I send you a Venmo request
for the uber ride?

Speaker 5 (08:30):
Like would that have solved the issue for you?

Speaker 7 (08:33):
I don't know, because like I would have rather heard.
I guess in my head I kind of want her
to have just dropped it, at least until we're having
like regular conversations for a little while and then it's like, hey,
you want to send me some money for that uber?

Speaker 8 (08:49):
Right?

Speaker 4 (08:49):
You just said that the money. You just said the
money wasn't an issue, but now you're saying it is
an issue. Because I mean, I hate like everything all
I did was sent a request. I didn't demand it
from you. I was and you could have just texted
me and said, hey, what's up with the venmo request?
You didn't respond to me at all? How is that

(09:10):
an adult mature thing?

Speaker 3 (09:12):
I mean, even if you would have demanded.

Speaker 8 (09:14):
It from me, that would have been more straightforward communications.
So I feel like I would have preferred that even
over like, I just don't like the passive aggressive venmo thing, dude,
like this is it's like a type of person that
communicates and operates through the venmo transactions like that, And
it's not me.

Speaker 7 (09:31):
I'm just not I'm not into it.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
It was a turn off em But do.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
You think you're a passive aggressive person in general?

Speaker 4 (09:37):
No, No, I'm definitely not. I don't know what kind
of specific person you're like looking for in terms of
wanting something like that. But you could have also just
communicated that that was an issue, Like you're boasting about
being a mature adult and communication is important to you.
But you did the exact opposite of what you just said.

(09:59):
So I'm looking for somebody who can actually follow through
with their own principles.

Speaker 7 (10:03):
I needed to send it them overquest like to someone
after a date, all out of the moop.

Speaker 8 (10:08):
I just think it's kind of weird in this economy.

Speaker 7 (10:11):
How is that weird, if you're, if you're if you
need the money or whatever.

Speaker 8 (10:16):
I guess I get that or whatever, but it's for me.

Speaker 7 (10:18):
It's a turn off.

Speaker 8 (10:19):
I'm sorry about it.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
It just is what it is.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
You said that you would have rather bring it up later,
but I feel like it'd been more awkward if she
would have brought it up later and randomly.

Speaker 7 (10:29):
Well, okay, how about we try this right?

Speaker 8 (10:31):
Like, why don't you tell me how much your time
was worth for the date and I'll reimburse you for it?

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Wow?

Speaker 8 (10:41):
No, you know I don't enough money, you know.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
I just I mean, if you want to pay me, like,
you know, give me one hundred and fifty bucks. But
to be honest, I don't think you can even afford that.

Speaker 7 (10:54):
Oh all right, I don't know if an you will
use three hundred right now just to show you I
can afford it.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
What Hey, Kyle, would you like to go on another
date with Emma? We'll pay for it.

Speaker 7 (11:10):
I'm thinking about it. I think I'm good. I think
we're good.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
Emma.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
You didn't get a second date, but hey, you got
three bus when my book

Speaker 5 (11:23):
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