February 21, 2026 • 11 mins
Leah thought her date with Jackson was flirty, fun, and full of chemistry. He was confident, gentlemanly, and exactly her type. Drinks were flowing, the vibe was playful — until one bold move changed everything.
Now it’s been almost a month of being ghosted, unanswered texts, and zero explanation. When we finally get Jackson on the phone, he doesn’t hold back about what made him completely shut down after their night out.
Was it just harmless flirting? Did someone cross a boundary? Or did a nickname go way too far?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
First Date is follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury
Attorneys online at advocatesla dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Leah is on the phone today for a first Date
follow up and she is getting ghosted by a guy
named Jackson. So in a few seconds, we'll call him
and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her
and maybe get her a second date if she still
wants one. But before we do that, Leah, how long
has it been since you heard from Jackson?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Wow, it's probably been about a month.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh wow, Okay, and you still.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Want to get ahold of them?
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Yeah, I mean I had a lot of fun, and
I really thought that there was like a vibe and
I'm just kind of surprised that it's been maybe it's
been like three weeks, but yeah, like almost a month,
and I'm just kinda, I don't know, still still wondering.
Speaker 6 (00:45):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, So you feel like you're definitely being ghosted. You
just want to know why?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay, have you tried to reach out to him at all?
Speaker 5 (00:54):
I have?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Yeah, send a few pecks if you like Instagram, like
ha ha, you know, sending the heart. Yeah, but yeah, no,
no real response.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Oh no, can I ask why, like, why did you
wait three weeks.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
To try it?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
I mean I have been contacted him without in the
three weeks.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Got yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, there's always hope, Victoria, I know, I yeah, have none.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay, why don't you tell us about the date then? Leah?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Sure? So, Yeah, his name is Jackson. I really really
liked him. He was not he was He was very handsome.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
But like put together, disciplined, like this quiet masculine energy,
which is very much my type. And he seemed very
just like grounded, Like he walked outside on the sidewalks,
you know, be a gentleman and open doors and didn't.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Talk over me. It was just like, yeah, very did
all the right things. Very attractive.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Yeah. So he took me to this like casual but
upscale place. We had some drinks and it was like
a late day nerve vibe. We'd just both finished work
and it just felt like very playful and thirty and
kind of effortless. It was a very fun date, which
is why it's so confusing. Why why he's ghosted?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Did anything weird happen?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Like, I mean, if you were to take a guess,
why do you think he is ghosting you?
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Yeah? There was one moment that I think might be it.
So while we were like laughing at a joke, I
very playfully like grabbed his butt, like smacked his butt
and like like what, yeah, that's completely normal, flirting, light, harmless.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
But then after I.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Did that, there was just a total shift that I
could feel pretty much immediately. And then after that he
would not walk in front of me. He kept slowing down, insisting.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
That I go first.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Oh, you know, might have made him uncomfortable. So if
he's not willing to present you with his butt again, right, Sorry,
that's kind of a weird way to say it, I know,
but you know you won't walk walk in front of
you and show you his butt and probably no more present.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I mean, did you just like pat it.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Poke it or like handful.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
That was a grab?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Okay, I'm just curious to see, like how you know,
I don't want to say the word and face it,
but maybe he might have felt that.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
It was there's a little light slap and then a grab.
I don't know how to drink.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
But like it's okay.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
But to me it was playful and fun and flirty.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
But I guess maybe not to him the same about
me I have, like, I have a dirty sense of humor,
so most most guys love that, and I'm used.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
To just like, I don't know, being a crazy fun one.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
So maybe he just didn't doesn't laugh the same way
as other guns.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Well, we'll see. We'll play a song and then come
back and call him and see if you'll tell us
he's ghosting you and maybe get you a second date. Okay, okay,
all right, we'll get your first date follow up next.
If you're just joining us for today's first date follow up.
Leah is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by
a guy named Jackson. So we're about to call him
(04:15):
and see if you'll tell us why he's ghosting her
and maybe get her a second date if she still
wants one. But before we make our phone call, Leah,
why don't you break down your date again for us
real quick?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
So we went on a really fun date, good vibe, playful, fun,
lots of laughing, and at one point I like lightly
slapped and grabbed his butt, and right after that beat,
the vibe totally changed. And then you know, I haven't
heard of him since.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
He wouldn't present his butt in front of you again. Yeah,
all right, here we go. Are you ready for us
to call him?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
All right, here we go. Hello, Hi, I speak to Jackson.
Please speaking. Who is this hey, Jackson? How are you?
This is a radio show. It's called The Jebel Show.
Hi Jackson. I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria and my name
(05:14):
is Jewbell.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Wait. Is that you guys have me on the radio
right now?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Or yes you are? How are you doing?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I'm good. I've never never been on the radio before.
What you guys? What are you guys calling about?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Well? I don't know if you've ever listened to the
show before, but we do a segment on the show
called the First Daid follow Up. That's where if you're
getting ghosted by somebody, they can email us to call
the person who's ghosting them and ask why. So, we
got an email about you from somebody that you're ghosting.
You know, might beg.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I do I know why you guys are calling now?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah? Okay, who are you ghosting?
Speaker 6 (05:56):
I know you're calling about Leah and.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Uh yeah, I mean what do you guys need to know?
I mean, what do you what are you looking for?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
She told us about your day and said she really
liked you. We're just wondering if you could tell us
why you've been ghosting for about a month now.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Well, I mean, I I genuinely liked Leah. I mean
I thought she was, you know, confident intelligence, she had
a lot of ambition to her.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
But she's just she's just she's very bold to me,
very bold.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Okay, how so the bad.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Thing like immediately bold.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And what does that mean?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So we were we.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
Were we were laughing, having dreams, having fun, and the
next thing, I know, you know, she she lops my
butt and like kind of grabs it, and I just
thought it was like whoa, Like we're not here here yet.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
But then it then then after.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
That, it was like she kind of kept just mentioning
it and like talking about my butt, and I was
just like.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
It just felt kind of like like it's weird.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
How was she talking about your butt like like trying
to like say, I don't have a long discussion about it, or.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
She was just kind of like she was like, oh,
you're mushy butt.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Like I felt it like it felt, you know, it
felt you know, like it's moving and it's nice and
I want to slap it again.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
And I was just like it's like it was just
it was just.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Kind of it was just bizarre and and and then
like the next thing, I know, the rest of the
date's going on and she's like, oh hey, mushy butt,
and I'm like what, like what, Like, it was just
it was weird.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And it's like, does she just keep calling you mushy
button over and over and over? What a nickname?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, it was weird. She just kept calling me mushy.
But it's strange, weird, strange.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, okay, all right, well mushy butt. I'm sorry. Leah
is actually on the other line listening and wants to
talk to you.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Oh gosh, I mean, hello, Hi, this kind of this
kind of awkward, I mean.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yeah, I mean, this is so ridiculous. You go to
me over that over a buck grab. It was a
placeful butt crab, not a felony. We were flirting, we
were having fun.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
You you you're you're joking is aggressive. It's just it's cruel.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Okay, so that you don't have a sense of humor, so.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I mean, I mean it's just you're you're very I
find I just find you very low brow and just
kind of crass. And just what did you what did
you grow up in a trailer park and what. Let
me tell you something, Leah, I work out a lot,
and my butt is not Let me be clear on that.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Okay, I really did.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
A lot of squats. I work. I do a lot
of legwork. So yeah, I'm gonna call your bluff there.
I look, I have a I have a firm butt here. Okay.
So I don't know what like where you're getting this
mushy butcher. It was just weird and gross. Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
So had she said something else, like had she grabbed
your button and be like, oh, it feels like you
could crack an egcorn between there is a firm moody,
it would have been more okay, you know what I think.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
So, because here's the thing she acted. It was like
she was acting like a child about it.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
It was just like, you know, here, I am this
grown man on a date with a supposed grown woman,
making like these like childish, weird.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Jokes about it. And it was just very weird. It
just it was so awkward and strange.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
And look, let me tell you guys something, I am
extremely self aware and I know I do not.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Have mushy booty back here.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
Okay, So let me just be clear on that and
just set the record street Leah.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Okay, well I felt a mushy booty. It felt like
you don't work out at all.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
So I'm sorry for just calling out I see it
and that you don't have a sense of humor. And yeah,
I did grow up in a trailer park and now
I'm a lawyer and I make more money than you.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
So I also like you're just delusional, is what I
think about you.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Okay, mushy butt.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Oh okay, here we go, miss trailer park turned lawyer.
Here we go.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
At least I'm not a grown man that's upset about
someone calling them mushy butt, like you're so upset about it,
and you're just not fun.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I don't have a mushy booty. I work ortally. Okay,
mushy booty, mushy buddy, I do not have a mushy booty.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Jackson, would you like to go with Lee again on
a second day? We'll pay for it.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I'll let you guys be the judge of that.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I'm gonna guess yes. So mushy is eight all right? Well, sorry,
le no second date for you and Jackson. Thank you
for your time.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I don't want one either anymore, guys, just so people
can see that I don't have a mushy booty, can I?
Can I? Can you put out my Instagram for me
First Date is follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury
Attorneys online at advocatesla dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Leah is on the phone today for a first Date
follow up and she is getting ghosted by a guy
named Jackson. So in a few seconds, we'll call him
and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her
and maybe get her a second date if she still
wants one. But before we do that, Leah, how long
has it been since you heard from Jackson?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Wow, it's probably been about a month.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh wow, Okay, and you still.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Want to get ahold of them?
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Yeah, I mean I had a lot of fun, and
I really thought that there was like a vibe and
I'm just kind of surprised that it's been maybe it's
been like three weeks, but yeah, like almost a month,
and I'm just kinda, I don't know, still still wondering.
Speaker 6 (00:45):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, So you feel like you're definitely being ghosted. You
just want to know why?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay, have you tried to reach out to him at all?
Speaker 5 (00:54):
I have?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Yeah, send a few pecks if you like Instagram, like
ha ha, you know, sending the heart. Yeah, but yeah, no,
no real response.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Oh no, can I ask why, like, why did you
wait three weeks.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
To try it?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
I mean I have been contacted him without in the
three weeks.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Got yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, there's always hope, Victoria, I know, I yeah, have none.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay, why don't you tell us about the date then? Leah?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Sure? So, Yeah, his name is Jackson. I really really
liked him. He was not he was He was very handsome.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
But like put together, disciplined, like this quiet masculine energy,
which is very much my type. And he seemed very
just like grounded, Like he walked outside on the sidewalks,
you know, be a gentleman and open doors and didn't.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Talk over me. It was just like, yeah, very did
all the right things. Very attractive.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Yeah. So he took me to this like casual but
upscale place. We had some drinks and it was like
a late day nerve vibe. We'd just both finished work
and it just felt like very playful and thirty and
kind of effortless. It was a very fun date, which
is why it's so confusing. Why why he's ghosted?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Did anything weird happen?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Like, I mean, if you were to take a guess,
why do you think he is ghosting you?
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Yeah? There was one moment that I think might be it.
So while we were like laughing at a joke, I
very playfully like grabbed his butt, like smacked his butt
and like like what, yeah, that's completely normal, flirting, light, harmless.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
But then after I.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Did that, there was just a total shift that I
could feel pretty much immediately. And then after that he
would not walk in front of me. He kept slowing down, insisting.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
That I go first.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Oh, you know, might have made him uncomfortable. So if
he's not willing to present you with his butt again, right, Sorry,
that's kind of a weird way to say it, I know,
but you know you won't walk walk in front of
you and show you his butt and probably no more present.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I mean, did you just like pat it.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Poke it or like handful.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
That was a grab?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Okay, I'm just curious to see, like how you know,
I don't want to say the word and face it,
but maybe he might have felt that.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
It was there's a little light slap and then a grab.
I don't know how to drink.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
But like it's okay.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
But to me it was playful and fun and flirty.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
But I guess maybe not to him the same about
me I have, like, I have a dirty sense of humor,
so most most guys love that, and I'm used.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
To just like, I don't know, being a crazy fun one.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
So maybe he just didn't doesn't laugh the same way
as other guns.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Well, we'll see. We'll play a song and then come
back and call him and see if you'll tell us
he's ghosting you and maybe get you a second date. Okay, okay,
all right, we'll get your first date follow up next.
If you're just joining us for today's first date follow up.
Leah is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by
a guy named Jackson. So we're about to call him
(04:15):
and see if you'll tell us why he's ghosting her
and maybe get her a second date if she still
wants one. But before we make our phone call, Leah,
why don't you break down your date again for us
real quick?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
So we went on a really fun date, good vibe, playful, fun,
lots of laughing, and at one point I like lightly
slapped and grabbed his butt, and right after that beat,
the vibe totally changed. And then you know, I haven't
heard of him since.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
He wouldn't present his butt in front of you again. Yeah,
all right, here we go. Are you ready for us
to call him?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
All right, here we go. Hello, Hi, I speak to Jackson.
Please speaking. Who is this hey, Jackson? How are you?
This is a radio show. It's called The Jebel Show.
Hi Jackson. I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria and my name
(05:14):
is Jewbell.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Wait. Is that you guys have me on the radio
right now?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Or yes you are? How are you doing?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I'm good. I've never never been on the radio before.
What you guys? What are you guys calling about?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Well? I don't know if you've ever listened to the
show before, but we do a segment on the show
called the First Daid follow Up. That's where if you're
getting ghosted by somebody, they can email us to call
the person who's ghosting them and ask why. So, we
got an email about you from somebody that you're ghosting.
You know, might beg.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I do I know why you guys are calling now?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah? Okay, who are you ghosting?
Speaker 6 (05:56):
I know you're calling about Leah and.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Uh yeah, I mean what do you guys need to know?
I mean, what do you what are you looking for?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
She told us about your day and said she really
liked you. We're just wondering if you could tell us
why you've been ghosting for about a month now.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Well, I mean, I I genuinely liked Leah. I mean
I thought she was, you know, confident intelligence, she had
a lot of ambition to her.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
But she's just she's just she's very bold to me,
very bold.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Okay, how so the bad.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Thing like immediately bold.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And what does that mean?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So we were we.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
Were we were laughing, having dreams, having fun, and the
next thing, I know, you know, she she lops my
butt and like kind of grabs it, and I just
thought it was like whoa, Like we're not here here yet.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
But then it then then after.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
That, it was like she kind of kept just mentioning
it and like talking about my butt, and I was
just like.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
It just felt kind of like like it's weird.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
How was she talking about your butt like like trying
to like say, I don't have a long discussion about it, or.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
She was just kind of like she was like, oh,
you're mushy butt.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Like I felt it like it felt, you know, it
felt you know, like it's moving and it's nice and
I want to slap it again.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
And I was just like it's like it was just
it was just.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Kind of it was just bizarre and and and then
like the next thing, I know, the rest of the
date's going on and she's like, oh hey, mushy butt,
and I'm like what, like what, Like, it was just
it was weird.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And it's like, does she just keep calling you mushy
button over and over and over? What a nickname?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, it was weird. She just kept calling me mushy.
But it's strange, weird, strange.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, okay, all right, well mushy butt. I'm sorry. Leah
is actually on the other line listening and wants to
talk to you.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Oh gosh, I mean, hello, Hi, this kind of this
kind of awkward, I mean.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yeah, I mean, this is so ridiculous. You go to
me over that over a buck grab. It was a
placeful butt crab, not a felony. We were flirting, we
were having fun.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
You you you're you're joking is aggressive. It's just it's cruel.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Okay, so that you don't have a sense of humor, so.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I mean, I mean it's just you're you're very I
find I just find you very low brow and just
kind of crass. And just what did you what did
you grow up in a trailer park and what. Let
me tell you something, Leah, I work out a lot,
and my butt is not Let me be clear on that.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Okay, I really did.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
A lot of squats. I work. I do a lot
of legwork. So yeah, I'm gonna call your bluff there.
I look, I have a I have a firm butt here. Okay.
So I don't know what like where you're getting this
mushy butcher. It was just weird and gross. Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
So had she said something else, like had she grabbed
your button and be like, oh, it feels like you
could crack an egcorn between there is a firm moody,
it would have been more okay, you know what I think.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
So, because here's the thing she acted. It was like
she was acting like a child about it.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
It was just like, you know, here, I am this
grown man on a date with a supposed grown woman,
making like these like childish, weird.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Jokes about it. And it was just very weird. It
just it was so awkward and strange.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
And look, let me tell you guys something, I am
extremely self aware and I know I do not.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Have mushy booty back here.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
Okay, So let me just be clear on that and
just set the record street Leah.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Okay, well I felt a mushy booty. It felt like
you don't work out at all.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
So I'm sorry for just calling out I see it
and that you don't have a sense of humor. And yeah,
I did grow up in a trailer park and now
I'm a lawyer and I make more money than you.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
So I also like you're just delusional, is what I
think about you.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Okay, mushy butt.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Oh okay, here we go, miss trailer park turned lawyer.
Here we go.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
At least I'm not a grown man that's upset about
someone calling them mushy butt, like you're so upset about it,
and you're just not fun.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I don't have a mushy booty. I work ortally. Okay,
mushy booty, mushy buddy, I do not have a mushy booty.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Jackson, would you like to go with Lee again on
a second day? We'll pay for it.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I'll let you guys be the judge of that.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I'm gonna guess yes. So mushy is eight all right? Well, sorry,
le no second date for you and Jackson. Thank you
for your time.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I don't want one either anymore, guys, just so people
can see that I don't have a mushy booty, can I?
Can I? Can you put out my Instagram for me
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