March 9, 2026 • 11 mins
Ray thought she had just experienced the perfect first date—a romantic rooftop dinner, a walk through the city, and even a sweet goodnight kiss. But after an amazing night together, Lucas suddenly disappeared… and she has no idea why. 🤯
When Ray reaches out to The Jubal Show’s First Date Follow Up, the team calls Lucas to find out what really happened. At first, it sounds like bad timing and complicated relationships—but then Lucas accidentally lets something slip that changes everything.
Is there more to Lucas’ situation than Ray realized? And will she still want a second date after hearing the truth?
Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
First date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury
Attorneys online at advocatesla dot com. Ray is on the
phone today for a first date follow up, and she's
getting ghosted by a guy named Lucas. So in a
few minutes we'll call him and see if you'll tell
us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a
second date. But first, Ray, how long has it been
since you heard from Lucas?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's been two weeks now, and Brady or silence.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Oh that's a little while. Yeah, how did you guys
leave it at the end of the date.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You know, honestly, I thought everything was fine. It was
one of the most nourishing dates I've had in a
very long time. Nourishing, oh, both feeling, satisfying, validating. I
thought it was a perfect date. But so far now
I've section three times and absolutely nothing, So I don't
(00:52):
know what went wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Oh no, okay, Well, why don't you tell us about
the date?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
He took me to a rooftop dinner, super romantic. He
split a dessert with me. It was like Disney movie worthy,
held my hand across the table, and after dinner he
walked around with me downtown and he even made the
first kiss. I felt like it was it was serious,
(01:19):
like it wasn't like an accidental kiss. It was completely intentional.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
That's good. I don't know, I've never had an accidental date.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
But awkward, it is so awkward. Yes, you know, one
person goes in for the other, one goes in for
like side lips.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Never mind I have had Yeah, he just got a visual.
I wasn't sure what the picture. What that makes sense?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Well, really cute. You know, more happened, but not everything happened.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, okay, so you know, he came back to my place.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
We did not hook up, but we did make out.
It was really romantic. You know, we stayed up talking ly.
He even stayed over. Like I said, we didn't hook up,
but it was very innocent overall.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Do y'all just like slept.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
We literally just you know, made out and talked. Okay, yeah, yeah,
And the next morning he even kissed me on the
forehead and said it was really nice.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Wow, that's weird.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Why would you go somebody after all? That sounds like
he really liked you to go back to your place.
And I mean, unless he was trying to get it
and it didn't happen. Did it feel like he was
trying to get more out of you?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
No, Honestly, I think I might. I've been analyzing it
a lot. I think if anything, I think he was
just a little freaked out by this little habit that
I have. And yeah, I think I'm not sure, but
I have this thing where I pull up my and
(03:01):
I write down little moments that make me happy.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Oh okay, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, so like let's see, It's like I I hear
a good quote, I'll save it. If something feels romantic,
I'll put it in my notes, you know. If a
moment feels meaningful, I'll document it so that I can
journal about a reader.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Problem. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Well I did it at dinner. I paused, like mid conversation,
and I typed soft group top lighting the city, humming,
this feels like the beginning of something.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Okay, did he know that that's what you write?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah? Okay, So he laughed and he said, are you
like live blogging me or something?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Oh okay, So he was maybe thinking it was weird
maybe yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Okay, So then maybe that says it you because if
he's still like hanging out, like right, did you tell
him that it was not blogging, it's just your notes.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Of course. Yeah, like you know, later when he saw
me writing, you know, he said in and joking way,
but like maybe he wasn't joking. He said, please don't
include me in your memoir. I want our magic to
stay in mystery. I mean, I was cute, but he
brought it up again.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
But he's ghosted you ever since. Yes, yeah, Ray is
on the phone and she's getting ghosted by a guy
named Lucas. So we're about to call him and see
if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe
get her a second date. But before we do that, Ray,
why don't you break down your date with Lucas again
for us real quick.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah. So I had an amazing date with Lucas.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
He took me to a rooftop bar, We had dessert,
held my hand, the works locked around downtown, he gave
me a kiss. He ended up spending the night at
my place, and I'm not sure exactly what happened, but
he ghosts me now for what like three weeks and
(05:08):
for two weeks. Yeah, it's been two weeks. I've texted
him three times nothing. I think maybe he's like a
little weirded out because I like to journal in my phone,
like as things are happening, and I did that a
few times during our date because I wanted to remember
these sweet moments. Ah.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And do you think that might be why he's ghosting you?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I do think so, because I can't think of any
other reason.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Okay, Well, are you ready for us to call him?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Okay, here we go. Hello, Hi, man, I speaking to Lucas. Please.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Uh yeah, who's calling?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Hey, Lucas? How are you? This is a radio show.
It's called The Jeubile Show, Lucas, I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria,
and my name is Jule. What's up?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Hey? What? Why am I getting a call from a
radio show?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
That's a good question. Have you ever listened to the
Jebel Show before, Lucas, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
I mean I've heard of it. I've definitely heard it before.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Cool. Well, we do a segment on the show that's
called the First Date follow Up. That's where if you
go out on a date with somebody and you ghost them,
that person can email us to get you on the
phone and ask why you're ghosting? And we got an
email about you from somebody?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Uh yeah, okay, And her.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Name is Ray Yep, that's yeah. So Ray all her doing. Yes,
it is her doing. Okay, well, yeah, we talked to
her about your date. She said it sound I mean,
it sound a fantastic Would you mind telling us why
you're ghostinger?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I mean, yeah, the date was fine, and like, I guess,
I don't know. I'm like, we're doing this on the radio.
I don't know if I really feel comfortable with that.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
You know, you said it's her doing, and anybody who
does these we tell them that you have to be
prepared to hear whatever. So she she knows that it's
a potential you could say something that she's not gonna like.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I mean, there's just like some stuff going on at work.
There's a like there's another girl at work that uh,
she's actually like my ex that I dated for four years.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Okay, so you work with your ex?
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Yeah, we all work together and Ray too. Yeah them, So,
like we broke up three months ago. We still share
a dog, and like, I guess what I didn't mention
is that we also like still live together.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Oh so you still live with your ex who you
also work with.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, it's only been three months, so it's like not
you know, I just haven't had It's not it's obviously
not permanent.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
It's just that, like I said, we were together for
four years. We share a dog. So I stayed at
Raith's place. When I got I just told Aaron. I
was like, I'm not gonna be home tonight.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I'm going to like work late and then probably crash
at the buddies. And she like, just to put it mildly,
she lost her mind. She confronted me. She was like, yeah.
She was like, if you're emotionally moving on this fast,
it's only been three months. We have a dog, we
live together. She was like, then you need to move
(08:28):
out now. And she was like, no more situationship whatever
we're calling this. And I just kind of like annicked,
you know, and I realized I just hadn't actually ended
it with my ex. So I just, you know, I
didn't want to bring Ray into I didn't want to
bring her.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Into you know, but you already Lucas.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I do have to let you know that Ray is
actually on the phone and wants to talk to you. Yeah, what.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I thought it was an email?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Well it started out.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, I am shocked, absolutely stunned. You could have told
me it was about her, And you know, I wondered,
and we had talked about it, because you did confide
in me so many times about things. Yeah, but you
said that it was casual with her. You never mentioned
anything about having a relationship with her. Ever, Why didn't
(09:21):
you just talk to something. I just figured if there
was anything, you would eventually tell me and that you
would pick her the best woman kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
No, it wasn't. It wasn't about It was not about
like a choosing. It was just like where what the
timing of it was? You know, like I know we
had a connection, and and I just was like, it's
she now, she's my ex. Now I can sort of
pursue this if we had been able to go out again.
I wasn't trying to hurt you. I wasn't trying to
(09:49):
lie to you. I just was like, this part of
it doesn't bear that level of explanation yet. We were
just like going with first date.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
What are you talking? You literally spent the night at
my place and then you went home to her.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Well, obviously, you know, it's not just the kind of
thing where you can be like, oh, we're breaking up, okay,
I'll be out in an hour, like your life is there,
so it takes a little time. Like I said, it's
in process, and once the divorce is final, i'm you know,
I'm I'm ready to move on fully.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
What you're actually married? You're married?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
What? What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
What did you what you just said? Divorce?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Oh? I did?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Wow? Okay, Well it seems like you have a lot
to figure out, Lucas. But I do have to ask
because it is a first date. Follow up, Lucies, would
you like another date with Ray? We'll pay for it.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I mean I would want to go out again. Yeah,
I want to go out again. I'm interested in her.
I had a good time. I just need time to
sort things out so I can focus on her, which
is what I would plan to do.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Well, I guess we should be asking Ray, do you
even want to go out to say again?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
You know, fine, but only if you move out that
it's over with Aaron.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
You do want to go with him again?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I need him to promise me that it's actually over
with her. And then he's cleared his drawer from her bathroom. Okay,
it's moved out, and then on a date.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Well, congratulations, Ray, it looks like you're going to go
on a second date with Lucas as soon as he
figures out it's divorced. We congratulations.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Great, you can start to document the beginning of our
fairy tale hunt.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Okay, you Will's first date fall up.
First date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury
Attorneys online at advocatesla dot com. Ray is on the
phone today for a first date follow up, and she's
getting ghosted by a guy named Lucas. So in a
few minutes we'll call him and see if you'll tell
us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a
second date. But first, Ray, how long has it been
since you heard from Lucas?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's been two weeks now, and Brady or silence.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Oh that's a little while. Yeah, how did you guys
leave it at the end of the date.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You know, honestly, I thought everything was fine. It was
one of the most nourishing dates I've had in a
very long time. Nourishing, oh, both feeling, satisfying, validating. I
thought it was a perfect date. But so far now
I've section three times and absolutely nothing, So I don't
(00:52):
know what went wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Oh no, okay, Well, why don't you tell us about
the date?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
He took me to a rooftop dinner, super romantic. He
split a dessert with me. It was like Disney movie worthy,
held my hand across the table, and after dinner he
walked around with me downtown and he even made the
first kiss. I felt like it was it was serious,
(01:19):
like it wasn't like an accidental kiss. It was completely intentional.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
That's good. I don't know, I've never had an accidental date.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
But awkward, it is so awkward. Yes, you know, one
person goes in for the other, one goes in for
like side lips.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Never mind I have had Yeah, he just got a visual.
I wasn't sure what the picture. What that makes sense?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Well, really cute. You know, more happened, but not everything happened.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, okay, so you know, he came back to my place.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
We did not hook up, but we did make out.
It was really romantic. You know, we stayed up talking ly.
He even stayed over. Like I said, we didn't hook up,
but it was very innocent overall.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Do y'all just like slept.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
We literally just you know, made out and talked. Okay, yeah, yeah,
And the next morning he even kissed me on the
forehead and said it was really nice.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Wow, that's weird.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Why would you go somebody after all? That sounds like
he really liked you to go back to your place.
And I mean, unless he was trying to get it
and it didn't happen. Did it feel like he was
trying to get more out of you?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
No, Honestly, I think I might. I've been analyzing it
a lot. I think if anything, I think he was
just a little freaked out by this little habit that
I have. And yeah, I think I'm not sure, but
I have this thing where I pull up my and
(03:01):
I write down little moments that make me happy.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Oh okay, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, so like let's see, It's like I I hear
a good quote, I'll save it. If something feels romantic,
I'll put it in my notes, you know. If a
moment feels meaningful, I'll document it so that I can
journal about a reader.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Problem. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Well I did it at dinner. I paused, like mid conversation,
and I typed soft group top lighting the city, humming,
this feels like the beginning of something.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Okay, did he know that that's what you write?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah? Okay, So he laughed and he said, are you
like live blogging me or something?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Oh okay, So he was maybe thinking it was weird
maybe yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Okay, So then maybe that says it you because if
he's still like hanging out, like right, did you tell
him that it was not blogging, it's just your notes.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Of course. Yeah, like you know, later when he saw
me writing, you know, he said in and joking way,
but like maybe he wasn't joking. He said, please don't
include me in your memoir. I want our magic to
stay in mystery. I mean, I was cute, but he
brought it up again.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
But he's ghosted you ever since. Yes, yeah, Ray is
on the phone and she's getting ghosted by a guy
named Lucas. So we're about to call him and see
if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe
get her a second date. But before we do that, Ray,
why don't you break down your date with Lucas again
for us real quick.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah. So I had an amazing date with Lucas.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
He took me to a rooftop bar, We had dessert,
held my hand, the works locked around downtown, he gave
me a kiss. He ended up spending the night at
my place, and I'm not sure exactly what happened, but
he ghosts me now for what like three weeks and
(05:08):
for two weeks. Yeah, it's been two weeks. I've texted
him three times nothing. I think maybe he's like a
little weirded out because I like to journal in my phone,
like as things are happening, and I did that a
few times during our date because I wanted to remember
these sweet moments. Ah.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And do you think that might be why he's ghosting you?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I do think so, because I can't think of any
other reason.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Okay, Well, are you ready for us to call him?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Okay, here we go. Hello, Hi, man, I speaking to Lucas. Please.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Uh yeah, who's calling?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Hey, Lucas? How are you? This is a radio show.
It's called The Jeubile Show, Lucas, I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria,
and my name is Jule. What's up?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Hey? What? Why am I getting a call from a
radio show?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
That's a good question. Have you ever listened to the
Jebel Show before, Lucas, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
I mean I've heard of it. I've definitely heard it before.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Cool. Well, we do a segment on the show that's
called the First Date follow Up. That's where if you
go out on a date with somebody and you ghost them,
that person can email us to get you on the
phone and ask why you're ghosting? And we got an
email about you from somebody?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Uh yeah, okay, And her.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Name is Ray Yep, that's yeah. So Ray all her doing. Yes,
it is her doing. Okay, well, yeah, we talked to
her about your date. She said it sound I mean,
it sound a fantastic Would you mind telling us why
you're ghostinger?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I mean, yeah, the date was fine, and like, I guess,
I don't know. I'm like, we're doing this on the radio.
I don't know if I really feel comfortable with that.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
You know, you said it's her doing, and anybody who
does these we tell them that you have to be
prepared to hear whatever. So she she knows that it's
a potential you could say something that she's not gonna like.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I mean, there's just like some stuff going on at work.
There's a like there's another girl at work that uh,
she's actually like my ex that I dated for four years.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Okay, so you work with your ex?
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Yeah, we all work together and Ray too. Yeah them, So,
like we broke up three months ago. We still share
a dog, and like, I guess what I didn't mention
is that we also like still live together.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Oh so you still live with your ex who you
also work with.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, it's only been three months, so it's like not
you know, I just haven't had It's not it's obviously
not permanent.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
It's just that, like I said, we were together for
four years. We share a dog. So I stayed at
Raith's place. When I got I just told Aaron. I
was like, I'm not gonna be home tonight.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I'm going to like work late and then probably crash
at the buddies. And she like, just to put it mildly,
she lost her mind. She confronted me. She was like, yeah.
She was like, if you're emotionally moving on this fast,
it's only been three months. We have a dog, we
live together. She was like, then you need to move
(08:28):
out now. And she was like, no more situationship whatever
we're calling this. And I just kind of like annicked,
you know, and I realized I just hadn't actually ended
it with my ex. So I just, you know, I
didn't want to bring Ray into I didn't want to
bring her.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Into you know, but you already Lucas.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I do have to let you know that Ray is
actually on the phone and wants to talk to you. Yeah, what.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I thought it was an email?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Well it started out.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, I am shocked, absolutely stunned. You could have told
me it was about her, And you know, I wondered,
and we had talked about it, because you did confide
in me so many times about things. Yeah, but you
said that it was casual with her. You never mentioned
anything about having a relationship with her. Ever, Why didn't
(09:21):
you just talk to something. I just figured if there
was anything, you would eventually tell me and that you
would pick her the best woman kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
No, it wasn't. It wasn't about It was not about
like a choosing. It was just like where what the
timing of it was? You know, like I know we
had a connection, and and I just was like, it's
she now, she's my ex. Now I can sort of
pursue this if we had been able to go out again.
I wasn't trying to hurt you. I wasn't trying to
(09:49):
lie to you. I just was like, this part of
it doesn't bear that level of explanation yet. We were
just like going with first date.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
What are you talking? You literally spent the night at
my place and then you went home to her.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Well, obviously, you know, it's not just the kind of
thing where you can be like, oh, we're breaking up, okay,
I'll be out in an hour, like your life is there,
so it takes a little time. Like I said, it's
in process, and once the divorce is final, i'm you know,
I'm I'm ready to move on fully.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
What you're actually married? You're married?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
What? What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
What did you what you just said? Divorce?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Oh? I did?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Wow? Okay, Well it seems like you have a lot
to figure out, Lucas. But I do have to ask
because it is a first date. Follow up, Lucies, would
you like another date with Ray? We'll pay for it.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I mean I would want to go out again. Yeah,
I want to go out again. I'm interested in her.
I had a good time. I just need time to
sort things out so I can focus on her, which
is what I would plan to do.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Well, I guess we should be asking Ray, do you
even want to go out to say again?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
You know, fine, but only if you move out that
it's over with Aaron.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
You do want to go with him again?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I need him to promise me that it's actually over
with her. And then he's cleared his drawer from her bathroom. Okay,
it's moved out, and then on a date.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Well, congratulations, Ray, it looks like you're going to go
on a second date with Lucas as soon as he
figures out it's divorced. We congratulations.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Great, you can start to document the beginning of our
fairy tale hunt.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Okay, you Will's first date fall up.
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UConn basketball star Azzi Fudd brings her championship swag to iHeart Women’s Sports with Fudd Around and Find Out, a weekly podcast that takes fans along for the ride as Azzi spends her final year of college trying to reclaim the National Championship and prepare to be a first round WNBA draft pick. Ever wonder what it’s like to be a world-class athlete in the public spotlight while still managing schoolwork, friendships and family time? It’s time to Fudd Around and Find Out!