February 11, 2026 • 40 mins
Breanna Stewart and Myles Turner have an open and honest conversation about the fallout from the Giannis trade that never happened, the impact it had on the locker room, and how players learn to navigate the realities of the basketball business.
They revisit the WNBA CBA negotiations, with Stewie explaining why she’s now more confident that a season will happen soon. The conversation then shifts to NBA All-Star Weekend, from players who were snubbed, to the potential of a USA vs. the World format, and what the NBA could take from the Unrivaled 1-on-1 tournament happening this week.
The episode wraps with Myles talking about his Casper Foundation and its mission to support animal rescue, while Stewie reflects on her “Abolish ICE” sign and why she felt compelled to use her platform to make a statement.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So Janni's requested a trade, but then did they get traded?
And then now he's just back on the team, Like
what is that? What's the vibe of that? When it's
like your star players like, well, I want to leave,
I want to get the fuck out of here, and
then actually now I'm gonna stay.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome the game recognized game. I'm Myles Turner Levy, your
NBA VET set up in the Milwaukee Bucks alongside my
co host, free time WNBA champion Brehanna Stewart aka Stewart.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Oh, let's get right into it, Myles. Anything interesting happened
on the court this week?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well, speaking of the court, man, I'm not sure you
can see it. Man. We got we got a big
fellow back there working out somewhere, was still a Milwaukee
Buck through all the craziness, through all the shams reporting.
But nah, man, it was trade deadline, you know this
past week, Man, there's obviously a lot of interesting moves
that happened, a lot of stuff that can you know,
get into a talk about kind of shook up the
(01:01):
landscape with the league and man, there's a lot of drama, man.
You know, this is soap opera being in the NBA.
But it's all it's all good stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
We're gonna talk about NBA All Star We're gonna talk
about unrivaled one on one tournament that's happening soon. The
bracket just came out, and see if the NBA can
learn a little bit of something from I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Actually with you on that. That'd be interesting stuff too,
curiously digging into that. And we'll also get a little
more serious man, a little more stuff that's happening off
the court. Uh, you know, I think we both have
a lot of things that we advocate for, a lot
of stuff that's going on just around the world. So again, man,
it's on our show man. We just there's no frills,
so we don't we don't mind getting into it a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
All right, I'm just gonna go for it because it
was a wild trade deadline week and you're the closest
person that I can really ask about this. So Jannis
requested a trade, but then did they get traded? And
then now he's just back on the team, Like what
is that? What's the vibe of that? When it's like
(02:01):
your star players like, well, I want to leave, I
want to get the fuck out of here, and then actually,
now I'm gonna stay well.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I think it starts with literally what he's doing now
you can kind of see him, you kind of can't,
like he's just out there putting it work. Bro. I
think that's a really big thing. He worked through all
the noise. I think that, you know, no matter what happens,
no matter what you see, you're always going to see
his face on TV, like we're coming into practice facility,
like ESPN just blasting the mouth. There's a new report
(02:27):
this day. There's okay, he said this this day. But
one thing I got to give him a lot of
credit for, man, is that one. He's been dealing with
this for quite some time now, for the past few years.
But he's very stone faced in front of us. He's
still the same guy. He's joking, he's laughing. He's got
a really like a you know, outgoing personality to him.
You know he's around us, but I mean, you see him.
(02:49):
He posts all the jokes and stuff like that. He
posts like the Wolf of Wall Street thing the other day, like,
you know, it's it's a crazy time. And honestly, I
feel for him, you know what I mean, I you know,
I have not been on his level. But I have
been through, you know, four or five years of trade
rumors or whatnot, and it's not fun. You know, it's
just really just it can mess up your mental can
mess up kind of like the psyche of the team,
you know, especially when he's hurt and not playing. So
(03:10):
it's not an easy time. But again, I think he's
handling it really well. And you know it's not gonna
stop anytime soon. Man. You know I think that. You know,
I'm a conspiracy theorist. Bro. You know what I'm saying,
And what's.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
The theory, what's the what's the theory happening here?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Bro? Well, you know, he's a superstar at the end
of the day, and he's a European superstar at that right,
So when you had this league, you know that's trying
to get his views up, get his marketing up, get
his ratings up, and whatnot. If you were to take
someone out of a small market of his caliber and
put them on a bigger market team, come on, bro, like,
you know what are we talking about? Like, that's just
more eyes, more money, you know, more how you say,
(03:48):
I guess, I guess there's more good stuff coming in
for the league. You know, we don't have to get
into the parentias of the good stuff. But I think
if you know, you know, you know what I mean.
But yeah, if you move someone like him in the
prime of his career to a bigger team, whatnot, man,
the following just goes up crazy as opposed to him
spending his quote unquote best prime years on a small
market team.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Listen, I thought he was gonna come to Brooklyn. I
was ready. We could have been like, hey, what's up?
All right? From your perspective, how does it feel to
be to have your name mentioned in trade rumors? And like,
you know, there was a ton of trades that happened,
and we'll really get into it, but like you're you're
getting up and you're leaving. Forty eight hours later, I
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saw Gershon Gabaselli. He literally played in Chicago eighteen hours
later after being traded from the Knicks, Like, how does
that work?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So I personally have never like been dealt or traded,
but I have been in the locker room with guys
who got traded the same day or I remember I
was the Karsler Burt Right and he played for the
Pacers per a minute and we went to go play
Cleveland at Cleveland. He got traded to Cleveland the day
we were playing Cleveland there, so he literally was like,
all right, y'all's been real And it's literally walked down
(05:01):
the hall like to the other locker row. It's like, oh,
it's good, y'all, Like you know, it's it's an interesting
space and interesting landscape. You know, anything can happen in
this league. Anything can happen in this business. I think
that being a younger player, it's tough because you come
in thinking one thing, and the organization have completely different
thoughts than you. And I think the hardest thing is
you have no real communication. No one's really telling you
(05:21):
what's going on. Everything is just speculation. I've been a
part of deals where you know, I personally was about
to get dealt I know for a fact, I you know,
I was about to go to Boston, you know, for
Gordon Hayward. And it's in the summertime, and at the
last second they pulled out of the deal. You know
what I mean. He ended up going like to Charlotte
or something like that. So it's nerve racking, man. You know,
(05:43):
I think that nothing can't prepare you for it. It
just kind of is what it is when you know
across the landscape of the league. But you do just
have to know that, you know, you are an expendable,
you know piece at the end of the day. You know,
and I think what some people get kind of like
mixed up is you're an asset. Bro Like if you
if you're someone who has trade value. That's not a
bad thing in this league, you know what I'm saying,
(06:04):
Like that means people want you, you know. It doesn't
necessarily mean a team gives up on you. It's just
the fact that you are an asset and people can
actually you know, use you in a business Gape. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I mean I was having a conversation the other day
and it was it was about the trade deadline and
all the things happening, and it was kind of like
the moment that Luca got traded from the MAVs made
everyone feel like it's a fair game, you know, from
from the NBA side, from the W side, like nobody's
safe because if you move your franchise player, your star
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player to another team like that was that was the
craziest thing that ever happened on that That's.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
The day the world stood still. Boy, let me tell you,
everybody remembers where they're at. Everybody remembers what they were doing,
and like when I'm not playing them, Like I'm a
Dallas Mavericks fan, you know, Man, I grew up a
Dallas Mavericks fan, so like that that would hurt me, bro,
you know what I mean. I saw what he was
doing for the city. I saw how much you know,
the culture had it break him and we we were
messed up about that one.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So remind me you guys made trades or known. Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, we traded Cole Anthony and the Beer Coffee the
Phoenix and it was a three team deal. Uh. In return,
we got Uzmin Dang. He's a he's like a third
or fourth year player.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
He played traded like a few times in one day,
three times one day or sometimes.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, he was telling me about it. He said that
he literally was in Chicago suiting up about to play
and they told him, oh, by the way, we're sending
you into Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So like wild, bro, I know, it's it literally is crazy.
I mean you mentioned at the top, like you mentioned
Cleveland and the Cabs and uh trading for uh carousel vert.
It's like they seem to always do that. They just
trade the people that they're playing that same day. I mean,
James Harden is now in Cleveland for Darius Garland. That
(07:54):
was probably the biggest, the biggest trade surprise that we had.
What what do you feel about that move?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
So being we're in the division, you know what I mean,
and they're you know, I think the Cavs were just
looking to make a win down move. You know, I
played against the Caves last year in the in the
semi finals, and you know, their struggles kind of came
with Darius because he was hurt, you know, and he's
been hurt really the past three four years. And you know,
(08:20):
this is no knock on Darius because he's a hell
of a player. But what I've learned in the league
is to be a small guard in the playoffs, you're
going to get attacked, You're going to get put in
every single action. Like it's hard to be a small
guard in the playoffs and really defend at a high level.
So I think that they were just trying to make
a move for a guy that obviously is a proven,
proven guy in an All Star and someone who can
(08:40):
come in and kind of you know, play with these bigs.
You know, I think you have Jared Allen and Evan Mobley,
who are lob threats. You got someone like James hard
to get downhill and I can speak from experience guarding
him that little floater. It looks like a floater every time,
but it could be a lob, could be floater, you
never know. And then just someone who would score at
a high level, you know, alongside Donovan Mitchell. So as
put my GM hat on, I think that was a
(09:02):
pretty good move. You know. Again, we'll see what happens
in the playoffs. So I think James Harden is still
someone who's trying to prove himself in the playoffs that
he could win at a high level.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, don't let him go left, but
he always goes left that type of situation.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Fash.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, I mean I think that that was that was
an interesting trade, especially because the Cavs were like number
one last year in the postseason and trading that away
and you know, let's see, let's see where they end
up this year. While we're on the topic, I have
to give a shout out to Jenny Busk because she's
my head coach in Seattle and now she she was
with you for a little bit with the Pacers and
(09:41):
she's still there doing her thing. So shout out to Jenny.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
No man, I got big love for Jenny bro She
I mean, in a male domineered industry, Bro, she really
comes in and holds her own like for real, she knows,
she knows what she's talking about. She's got great energy
every day and like as far as setting an example, bro,
like she's in there working out every day. She's a
human muscle.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
She's like a she literally still be getting it in, bro. Like,
I really respect the way Jenny rocks. She's one of
my favorite coaches. I just played against the Pacers last night,
so I got a chance to catch up with her
and she was really excited about this opportunity with us
as well. So yeah, big love to Jenny Bushie Man.
That's my girl, all right.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
So last question on the on the trade deadline and
stuff like that, Like you know, it doesn't we don't
have as many big trades in the w NBA like things.
I think that they'll start to happen once we if
we ever agree on a CBA, because like the salary
and the cap will be higher, but like, how do
you how do you kind of balance those relationships between
(10:40):
teammates and coaches and staff where it's like one minute
to there, the next they're not. You know, I saw
like all the cabs saying goodbye to Darius Garland because
he was going to the Clippers, and like, do you
do just take a business approach or what?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
It's a mixed bag. I think you have to be realistic, bro,
and in like, I'm not a bullshitter, bro, Like I've
been this game for quite some time. There are fake
relationships in this industry, you know what I mean. It's
kind of like that, Hey, how's it going, how's the family?
All right? You good? All right? And you keep that
shit moving, you know what I mean? Yeah, But there
also are people that you really, you know, make real
(11:16):
relationships with. Like me personally, when I was at the
Pacers for ten years straight, I had the same strength coach,
I had the same personal trainer, I had the same
physical therapist, same nutritionist, like through and through for ten years.
So I made real relationships with those people within an organization.
Now there are people who get traded every year who
kind of come in and just kind of check a
(11:36):
box and hey, how's it going. You're good, all right,
keep and keep it moving. But it just kind of
depends on the player in the situation, you know. I
think that for me personally, one thing I always try
to do. I always try to look out for the
tier one through tier four staff, right, the people who
I literally have to see every day, you know, for
you know, getting my knees right, getting my ankles right,
the people I live with, the people who take care
(11:56):
of the chef, like you take care of those people, bro,
because of the people that are taking care of view.
That's a principle I've always lived by. But not everybody
has that mentality. Some people that's come in I'm here
to do my job. I'm here to go home, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, No, I mean they're the hardest working ones, honestly.
That's what I believe is they're the ones that are
making the the engine run or the ship go. So
we always appreciate the people behind the scenes that are
helping make our teams go.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Equipment managers is there. It's negative ten degrees. Outside of
getting all the bags and stuff like that, it's a
lot of off the plane work. Yeah, man, So interesting enough,
speaking of like the business side of things. I know
there's a new wn B, a CBA update. I think
it was last Friday that you guys may have had
another you know, I guess, I guess another headline come
(12:44):
up if you will. You know, I'm not sure if
it was an agreement, but you know, what do you
what do you got going on that side of things?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Honestly, Yeah, we just got a new proposal, latest proposal.
We haven't had a response back since our proposal, like
on Christmas, so this was a long time coming. And
before I can get into the details about that, which
I don't think I can really get into many details,
we had a call that was I think very important
(13:13):
and very positive. So usually the meetings with the league
happened in person, right, it's the the l RC, which
is like the some owners of the league that are
on the committee, the our commissioner, Kathy, the lawyers, and
then it's our side, the PA Terry Jackson, our president
(13:36):
or our leader from the union. So it's not often
that we have players in the room all the time.
So we were able to have players in the room.
We had players on the zoom, and we were hearing
from owners like Matt Eshpia of the Mercury and the Sons,
Clara Whusai who's the Liberty, and the Nets, Jenny Guilder
from Seattle, and it was really important for them to
(13:58):
hear the perspective of all the players, from players that
make it super Max to players that are probably going
to come in and a vetment and understand our want
and our desire. We really kind of put an emphasis
on making sure that each team has like minimum standards.
It's something that seems easy and like, you know, we
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should always have, but not all teams do it. So
if there's not a rule creating minimum standards where you
have to have a chef, where you have to have
like a massage therapist on the road, where you have
to have a practice facility like within the next two years,
they won't do it. And while most people won't choose
to go to those teams, some people will have to.
(14:41):
So now we said, no, we want a minimum standards
in writing, because whether you get a chef or whether
you get somebody from delivering food from Little Caesars, like,
you're still getting the food aspect, but then people will
be able to see who's trying to invest in their
team and who's not and from there those owners can
get out basically and you know, we'll find people that
(15:02):
want to continue to progress with the league. So I
think that that call was great just from being able
to hear the perspective of both sides, from the league side,
from the player side, and what we want. So our
recent CBA proposal that we got, there's movement, there's like traction.
We're finally like headed in a direction. So I'm excited.
(15:25):
I'm excited to hopefully negotiate back and you know, really
really kind of do the negotiations because unfortunately he's been
like eighteen seventeen eighteen months and we haven't like negotiated.
We've been just fighting about, well, we don't like your proposal,
and you don't like our proposal, and nobody's gonna budget.
So it's it's been pretty frustrating. But I've been trying
(15:49):
to to kind of be as involved as I can.
I was on I was on the Zoom for like
four hours that Monday, and then we had at five
at night and it was like, this is this is
the one time where I'm like, I wish I didn't
have a game day today. But it's like I don't
want to I don't want to miss the moments. I
(16:10):
want to be there and make sure that I'm helping
make sure that all questions are asked and people understand
everything that's going on.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Of course, Man, shout out to you for holding for
a firm to story for real, because I feel like
you know, you're really putting on for not only y'all
right now, but for the next generation of players coming
out man, And like, you're right, you are going to
be part of an integral part in history. And I
think that just from a player perspective, there are certain
like standards that we uphold an NBA as well. You're right,
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like we have to have practice, so we have to
have a chef, we have to have these massage therapist,
because if we don't have these hands, we can't perform
at our highest level. You know, we shouldn't have to
outsource and start trusting outside companies, the third party companies
to you know, be able to form under in y'all's facilities,
right and then then then under y'all's lead. Because I
don't know, man, I just know that there's certain things
(16:59):
that some of the guys that of things have that
you guys are particularly fighting for but you shouldn't have
to fight for us because it should be like now negotiable.
And you know, I think there's there's arguments to both sides.
So when it comes to owners, there's always gonna be
about revenue. And you know, if you were shipping money
coming in, money coming out. But I don't know, man,
I just think that you you're fighting a good fight.
And you know, I think I don't think the guys
(17:20):
on the NBA side truly see what's really going on
the WNBA side. We only hear headlines. We don't realize
that you're on zoom calls for four hours a day,
that you have games. You don't realize that you're spearheading
these conversations, you know, as one of the faces of
the league. You know, if the shop was another foot,
you know, it's it be a lot. I think it'd
be a lot tougher. Nothing you're handling really well.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
So yeah, I appreciate it. I mean, we're we're in
a new we're in a new place and it's a
great place to be in. You know, we're now going
to be a part of a revenue shared sharing model,
which is historic for the w n b A and
and really for the future to come. And and now
it's it's kind of understanding that, you know, how does
that work, How is the money, how is it separated?
(18:02):
Where can we negotiate all these things? So you know,
while it is tiring and taxing, like you you want
to be a part of it to make sure that
you know it's for the better of the players. And
also the league is going to continue to grow and
thrive at such an important point, so you know what,
we're not done. Hopefully eventually we'll be able to I'll
be able to be like, oh my god, Miles, like
(18:23):
it's finished, like it's over and it's it's going to
be incredible. But until then, we just keep trucking along.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Sure. Now I got to ask a question that obviously
everyone wants to know, is you know, are you feeling
better about having wa in WBA season now or we
still just kind of, you know, wait to see what happens.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I'm feeling better. I'm feeling like the owners are finally
like really acknowledging and being receptive of what we want,
and the players as well. You know, we all had
to kind of put our business hats on and get
into that mindset, and I'm hoping we can get this
thing done quickly so then we're so then we're not late.
(19:08):
And that's the thing. It's like I've been telling them
is now that we're a part of a revenue shared model,
like you miss games, less money, and not to say
that we should submit and just say yes to any
proposal that we don't like, but like, this is a
business now, and this is how businesses go.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, I guess you said time will sell man. You know,
I think we're all waiting patiently signed to toss the
break man when we come back, when we talk about
All Star, who was snubbed the new US versus World format?
Who would win on the NBA one on one turnament,
(19:54):
Welcome back to game recognized game with Stewie and Miles,
and let's do it, man, let's talk about the NBA
All Star Game. I feel like there's a lot of controversy,
you know, within the game over the past few years.
But first of all, we got to start off with
the All Stars themselves. I know you pay attention toly, like,
who do you think were some of the biggest snubs
from All Star this year?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
From my perspective. I think the biggest snub was Mike
Porter Junior. You know, I know the Nets aren't doing amazing,
but as far as his stat line, he's he's been
shooting the ball incredibly well, scoring at a high clip.
And you know, I don't know, like to ask you
what do you what do you think about it? What
do you guys think about All Stars? Because you have
(20:34):
so many top talents that you can't pick everybody. But
also it seems like a lot of times people are
getting snubbed.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I think that's the unfortunate part of our game is
the fact that you know, you can have an argument
for say a Michael Porter Junior, but who do you replace?
You know what I mean of the you know, the
ten or ten or how many All Stars that were
you know, selected, Like who who do you take out
and say, well, this is why you should be here now.
I think one where the conference comes in is team success. Right,
(21:03):
if you're truly an All Star but your team is
losing every game, then you know, yeah, you're putting good numbers,
but are you an All Star? You know, And that's
where some of that comes. So I think some of
like the Brooklyn Nets, like I don't know. They might
be their bottom five like in the league right now,
and you can be averaged at thirty twenty five whatever
it is on a great team or sorry, on a
bad team, But you know, what is your real impact?
(21:25):
I think that it gets a little dicey when you
kind of start talking about that, because again, you have
to figure out who you're gonna replace.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
You've led the NBA in blocks twice and been a
premiere ren protector on very good teams over the years,
and you've never been to an All Star team, which
is kind of shocking. Like does that weigh on your
mental are you like, you know what, this is a
chip on my shoulder that I need? Or how do
you feel about it?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
So there's a couple of ways that can go about it.
Right when I first my first few a couple of
years in league and whatnot, I was putting up you know,
some numbers whatnot, but I still was a young buck
on the team again the bottom team, trying to make
it or whatnot. Then as I started leading the league
in blocks and started having more you know, I guess
accolades my name, some questions started to arise, and the
(22:12):
craziest thing that I ever got was like, you don't
rebound enough. So I don't rebound enough to make the
All Star team. You know what I'm saying. I'm a
center that averages six or seven rebounds something like that.
But you know, I scored efficiently, Like I said, I've
I've out blocked an entire organization in a year before,
Like I had more blocks in the Cleveland Cavaliers team
entirely one year. You know, And it gets frustrating because
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I see other guys do exactly what I'm doing and
they get the All Star nds. But you know, team
success is big. You know, if you're the number one,
number two team in the league, then they have to
pick you know, a certain number of guys, and that's
usually how it happens. I think it was the Atlanta Hawks,
Like guys before I was in the league, like in
twenty twelve, they had like four or five guys making
it was like Kyle Corvert, Paul millsuf outhor for Jeff
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t But they were the number one team in the league,
you know what I mean, like a long shot. So
there are definitely politics that go into it as well.
You know, I think that's certain guys in certain relationships,
certain media members, and they help out you know, social
media presence something that's very important as well as far
as fan popularity and then success. You know, it seems
toss something always big. But you know, you also can't
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be an all start averaging you know, twelve thirteen points.
You know, you have to kind of go out there.
And you know mickname, you know, I you know, I've
seen our Horford. I think he averaged like fourteen points
one year and he was an All Star. So it
all depends on, you know, scenario in case. And you know,
it doesn't bother me now and as it used to,
you know, the biggest thing for me now was the
coming in the league. You know, make sure my family's
tating care of, you know, keep building on my legacy
(23:36):
and is move on from there. So if I'm blessed
making All Star team one day, you know, you know,
I have not put out you know, hope in the
future for that, but as it leads to it, right now,
I do get I do enjoy getting to go back
home and get a chill for a little big get
off my feet.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
So yeah, I mean listen, at least you get a
break like That's the one thing that I feel like
we're jealous about is you guys, good time. We play
on Thursday and then they'll be like All Star games
on Sunday and then you play again on Tuesday, like
it's not a break, just another game in the schedule.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, I feel on that there's a well, there's a
new format this year with kind of the US versus
the world, and really this is where the league is
heading in my opinion. You know, you're seeing all the
stuff that's happening overseas, you know, uh, the European leagues
and Asia leagues and whatnot, and really that's where a
lot of a lot more these NBA players are coming from. So,
you know, an m v P in this league, it
(24:26):
was the last American to win the MVP. It was
probably James Harden, I don't remember was an American.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Remember he's Cameroon, I know if he played for USA,
so like.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
He played for USA, you know, yeah, but no, but
for real, like all all our MVPs have been European
or you know, or in Joelle's case, African and whatnot,
And you know that's what they're all really spearheading in
our league right now. Most of the top guys think
are you know, foreign, So I think it would be
an interesting format. I think this is what, you know,
the quote unquote world is want to see, like who's
(25:00):
truly better? What are your thoughts of like just the
format this year it was kind of breaking it all
up entirely.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I think it's gonna be cool. I think it's it's
gonna be something that's interesting. I think that just from
like the business business standpoint, all Star games have been tough.
You know, it's hard to get people to like fully
compete because you're in the middle of your season, Like
why would you want to that type of thing. But
maybe this will bring back some like Olympic juices or
(25:27):
some some type of pride of you know, USA versus
the world and that type of thing. I'm looking forward
to watching. We'll see how it starts like it. If
it if it starts competitive, you know, I'll stay tuned in.
If it gets a little bit shaky, then you know
I don't, I'll just move on watch something else.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, And to your point, I think that's really what
it was. It's just like trying to get viewership. They're
trying to shake things up to try to like get
guys like to watch. I mean, there's a lot of
stuff going on, man, because I look at the dunk
contest like that shit died years ago, bro, the last
quint dunk dunk contest like my rookie year, like wh
was when with Zach Lavine, Aaron Gordon, you know what
I mean? And this year guys just don't want to
(26:08):
do it. Man. It's just you know, it's stressed on
their body. You have mostly young guys doing it. I
think this year we've got two seven footers doing it
and just you know, no shade to Jayalen During or
Jackson Hayes, but it looks a lot cooler when somewhat
six p'in one doing these crazy dunks as opposed to
our seven footers out here doing it, you know what
I mean. And I don't know, man, they could mess
around and shocked me and surprise me, but I guess
(26:29):
the product it just isn't the same as it used
to be. And that's where a lot of the plants
come from. You know. And this isn't just me as
NBA players saying, this is what the people are saying,
you know.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I mean, the bar for the dunk contest is extremely high.
So if it's not like eye popping and something really
cool and like you are jumping off the ground and
getting crazy height, like people are gonna be like, all right,
well that was easy for him.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
What's your opinion on Like what Shaquille O'Neil is doing
right now? He has like his own dunk contest, but
he's having like, you know, professional like dunkers come in
and do this. Like what if the league were to
shake it up and kind of like throw some of
those guys in there as well as NBA players, Like
I don't know, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Mean, listen, give that. I think that's cool. Give someone
else like a chance or an opportunity, you know, give
like a a non NBA dunker an opportunity to win
this whole thing, and maybe that'll like get the competitive
juices going of like, no, this guy can't dunk better
than me. He doesn't have a more creative mind than me.
Open it up. Listen versus NBA versus the World Dunk Contest.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
There you go. There you goes have random people come in.
It gives them a platform as well. You know, maybe
they get their stuff going and I don't know then,
but again, like I'm just trying to find different ways
because again I think that the All Star weekend is
one of our biggest you know, outside of the finals
obviously it's it's one of our biggest weekends. And know
it's for visibility, for marketing, for you know, world markets
coming in and whatnot, and try to be around some
(27:57):
of the best players. So you got to find the
right form. But yeah, that's me for unrivaled.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
We have one on one competition this week with last
year's champ Fee and the Fista Collier out for the season,
who do you think will win it?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
So who do you how many? How many people could pete?
Speaker 1 (28:16):
So it's thirty two people thirty two, it's not it's
not the entire group. And basically what they've done this
year is they separated it into position pods. So you
have like the the point guards, and then you have
like the shooting guards, and then you have the bigger guards,
and then you have the bigs. So from there it's
going to be one person out of each and then
the positions are going to cross over a little bit,
(28:40):
but it'll be interesting. Like it's make it ticket. I
think Game two eleven and it's it's one game. You
get knocked out year year out, and they move on.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I've always loved I told you how much. Let Chelsea Gray.
I just think this year has that like that, that
old woman's type of game winn not especially in one
on one like setting. There's no help. You can do
whatever the hell sheit wants. Are you competing? Mm hmm okay,
well shoot I can't. I can't let you out of
there either, But say I played one. Yeah, but I
say obviously you got You've got ones. I've seen you play.
Uh who else? Let me try to think who I
(29:12):
could think of, just like as far as the one
on one tournament, Uh Nakoscha Clouds, she goes, she gona
be in there.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
She's gonna be playing. Okay, Kelsey Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I love Kelsey Mitchell. She's my high school class fast.
Hell yeah, bro, she I'm trying to think her name
as well. Jackie is Jackie playing Jackie young Jackie's playing.
I like Jackie a lot, bro. I've watched her play,
you know, for quite some time, and I've actually got
to see her developed. Okay, I'm just going out names
at this point. So as far as someone who'd actually win,
actually win the game. I'd have to obviously, you know,
(29:45):
if I put your head in there as well, because
I'm not going to go against the home team of course.
But outside of that, like I told you, like one
of my favorite players watched Chelsea Gray, so I probably
just say y'all too, just off the top of my head.
But again, if I a knew everybody was playing, what
about Hambry, Derek Hambry, she played Hanby?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, she's playing.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Okay, he's playing.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
You got too many people right now to get you
the practice and to give me some homework. You will
come back and tell us who you think it's gonna win.
But the prize money two hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Oh wow, Okay, see you win when I want.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
You get two hundred k. So, like there's a lot
of money on the line and it to be spicy.
So let's see what happens.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
My goal.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I'm starting my goals low right now because last year
I didn't even get to score a point. So once
I score that point, I'm gonna be so happy and
then try to move on.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You take it from there. At least you got the
experience of it all. I don't know man, I wonder
the NBA side, you know, whatever, kind of move into
something like that, because that's really what the people want
to see. But I think US ABA players have too
much pride or too much ego, you know what I mean.
I feel like if you have something like that, you know,
some guys don't want to get exposed.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
That's the way I see it. You know, I think
that there are a few guys in this league that
everybody would love to see. You know, I think that
we all got ones, man, like a lot of us.
You know, you don't get to see it on like
the team side of things. But I don't know who's
some guys, like I said, in the NBA side, you'd
like to see.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I don't know. When I think about the ones from
the NBA side, I think about like the USA basketball
videos of them playing one on one of like Katie
and Paul George and Devin Booker kind of going at it. So,
I mean, we've we've talked about Katie before. Like his
offensive arsenal is is unheard of, so I would love
(31:32):
to see anybody trying to stop him. I think I
think he would. He would win if Jamal Crawford was
in the league. Still listen, he has he has a
bag too. Yeah, it's tough. It's like when you play
one on one like that, like you have to play
like the best of three or best of five, because
I feel anything can happen in one game. Mh you know, like, yeah,
(31:56):
of course you have to kind of solidify it a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, you gets hot with that because you just you
could just have like a good like ten minute stretches,
do whatever the hell you want, and then get cold.
So I don't know, man, Like I said, ones are fun.
Man gets the competitive juice is going. I don't think
it happens enough in our league. And I personally like
to c D NBA kind of do like a competition
like that, you know, and I'll start weakend and just
bring more eyes and attention to things.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Listen, you he heard it here. First bring the bring
the one on one to the NBA like making a
big pot. And then you know what we should do.
We should have a two on two crossover with the
w m okay and get the opponent. Look at we
could be teammates.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Now they have stretch the floor, protect the rim. That's
easy work. Yeah, with that, man, y'all. Y'all gotta make
it pop off first though, Man, I'm excited to see
you know how the I guess turn out, you know,
from the from the one we won itself. And then
if y'all make it hot there, man, maybe we take
a page out of y'alls.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
But literally, if I'm win, if I win the next
time we do this, pot I'm just have money just
braining behind me.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Just have marks on the deck, just like doing exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
All right, all right, time for one more break. Next up,
we go off the court and get personal. Welcome back
(33:25):
to game recognized game with Stewie and Miles, and we're
going off the court. We're getting a little bit personal.
Miles wants you to talk about one of your projects
that you're working on and how people can continue to
be more involved and what we can do to help
support you.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, no course, man. So I've always been on the
philanthropic side of things, you know, I've worked with the
homeless in the past, you know, food and secure, and
I'm taking a new approach now man, I'm getting into
the animal side of things. I recently started my own
pet foundation. It's called the Casper Foundation, is named after
my cat Casper. He's inspiration behind it all, my pride
and joy if you will. But yeah, so we're our
(34:05):
biggest thing, man, is like we're really trying to uplift
you know, our animal communities, you know, especially our animal
shelters whatnot. You know, we're on the advocacy kind of things.
We want people to adopt and uh and rescue these animals.
So I mean, I think we're non profit fibles of
five on one C three. You know, donations are obviously encouraged,
but the biggest way can really help us is just
to go out there and just you know, keep advocating,
(34:25):
you know, for the you know, for the ones that
don't have a voice, the voice the voices what we
call them. You know, we're we're based, we're a cat
like centric foundation, but we're not like you know, we
don't exclude dogs and don't exclude you know, rabbits, you
don't exclude like any like these domesticated animals that should
go out there and get and you know, I'm just
kind of trying to spread the word a little bit more.
(34:45):
There's not a lot of professional athletes that you know,
advocate on the cat side of things. You know, everything
We're in a very dog dominated, uh country, you know,
and as you know, a lot of STI.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
But again, man, always to save the cats too, of course.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Man see, and I'm glad that you're on it. I've
always been a huge proponent on animal advocacy and I
just wanted to take it, you know, give a bigger
platform to you know, having the platform that we have
in the League and the Association, I just wanted to
open up so to our listeners, to all the describers
out there. You know, you can find us on Instagram,
find us on the CAST foundation, dot com or dot org,
I should say, and you know, again, please help out
(35:24):
any way you can. You know, any even a penny
of a donation makes a huge difference. And just so
you know, like the what the money goes to is
for the neon natal you know, kittens, neon needle puplic
puppies that come out. You know, money goes towards adoption efforts,
and you know, a whole bunch of other good things. Man,
this is just the foundation. I'm just pocketing y'all's bread,
(35:45):
you know, I'm saying, I'm actually trying to get back
to the community itself. So again, Man, it's something I'm
very excited about and something that's in its beginning stages,
but we're hoping to grow, you know, fromling ground up.
So yeah, we're excited about it.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Shout out to the Casper Foundation. Yeah, I want you
to bring some pets. I want you to bring some
pets on the pod.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
And be like if you would like, and they're all
for adoption. You're right now. I recently partnered with the
Wisconsin Humane Society, man, so you know, we got a
good partnership with them and can't continue to you know,
bring that up. But crazy transition, so you know, just
kind of you know, it's kind of been something on
mind my mind, you know, to say the least. You know,
(36:24):
you had a very powerful statement, you know during one
of your games, you know, a couple of weeks ago.
I think you know, you came out it was I
think during the national anthem. We I was pregame warm
ups and you had an abolished ice sign And you
know that is a very sensitive word to a lot
of people right now, But just a statement that you gave,
can you just speak to what you were trying to
(36:45):
get accomplished there?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah? Absolutely, I mean I think that with all of
the things happening all over this country, but specifically in Minnesota,
seeing the death of Renee Good, seeing the death of
Alex pretty like people getting killed on the streets for
advocating and trying to literally, like we said, like be
(37:08):
a voice for the voiceless. I was disgusted, and I
was like I was, I wanted to do something, and
I was just thinking about what's a way that I
can literally send a message and not be too specific,
but show Minnesota and really everyone in the country that
(37:30):
I'm thinking about them. So I didn't tell many people,
but I had abolished ice written on a sign and
for my intros, I walked out and I just showed it,
because it's like, while we're playing basketball, there's so many
other bigger things happening in our country and in this world.
And really the messaging behind it was to bring people
(37:53):
and communities together and with new policies, you know, instead
of you know, rip families apart and fueling fear and violence.
I think that there's some things that need to be
done in our country that can make it better, and
and wanting to be a part of that, you know,
wanting to help make a make a change and make
(38:14):
a difference. You know, you see kids getting taken from
their homes and and people people leaving and not knowing
when they're going to return and things like that, and
it's just a little bit sickening. And that's that was
my motivation behind it, was knowing that, you know, while
I am able to wake up and play basketball every
(38:36):
single day, and I'm super happy and fortunate about that,
like I'm also saying what's happening to others and wanting
to acknowledge that.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
There definitely bigger things going on. I think just us
as a nation, we're so desensitized to violence you nowadays,
you know what I mean. And I think that when
stuff like this occurs, I think people kind of take
the approach of like, oh, oh well, all right, moving on,
you know. And I think that you took, you know,
againt use your platform in a very strong moment just
to bring awareness to what's going on. It's like, yeah,
(39:06):
we played basketball for entertainment. Yea, we live a blessed lifestyle,
but there also there are all things that we feel
very strongly about just as people, as you as citizens.
You know, again, people have a lot of opinions on
but are too afraid to speak on. So I think
that was a big moment for yourself and something that
needs to continue to be talked about.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yeah, I mean I appreciate that. And and like you said,
it's it's normalized way too much. So let's kind of
unnormalize it a little bit and make sure we talk
and acknowledge when someone is being you know, killed on
the street and in our country that's somedeed.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Man. Man, well, I think that's a crazy way to
kind of wrap up the show. I think that you know,
it's still you know, for us on this show. I mean,
we do enjoy talking about all sorts of different types
of topics. So as far as our fans, our subscribers, like,
please like sending anything you wanted to talk about, sending
anything that you care it's just on y'all's mind. Doesn't
(39:59):
have to be just bad basketball, man. It could be
you know, society centric, it could be the stuff that's
going on, you know, just in our everyday lives.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Please, I think that this is a you know, an
amazing platform that I heard is you know, provided us
with and we can continue to talk about you know,
ongoing stuff like this. Please describe the game recognized game.
We'll see you next time. H
So Janni's requested a trade, but then did they get traded?
And then now he's just back on the team, Like
what is that? What's the vibe of that? When it's
like your star players like, well, I want to leave,
I want to get the fuck out of here, and
then actually now I'm gonna stay.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome the game recognized game. I'm Myles Turner Levy, your
NBA VET set up in the Milwaukee Bucks alongside my
co host, free time WNBA champion Brehanna Stewart aka Stewart.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Oh, let's get right into it, Myles. Anything interesting happened
on the court this week?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well, speaking of the court, man, I'm not sure you
can see it. Man. We got we got a big
fellow back there working out somewhere, was still a Milwaukee
Buck through all the craziness, through all the shams reporting.
But nah, man, it was trade deadline, you know this
past week, Man, there's obviously a lot of interesting moves
that happened, a lot of stuff that can you know,
get into a talk about kind of shook up the
(01:01):
landscape with the league and man, there's a lot of drama, man.
You know, this is soap opera being in the NBA.
But it's all it's all good stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
We're gonna talk about NBA All Star We're gonna talk
about unrivaled one on one tournament that's happening soon. The
bracket just came out, and see if the NBA can
learn a little bit of something from I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Actually with you on that. That'd be interesting stuff too,
curiously digging into that. And we'll also get a little
more serious man, a little more stuff that's happening off
the court. Uh, you know, I think we both have
a lot of things that we advocate for, a lot
of stuff that's going on just around the world. So again, man,
it's on our show man. We just there's no frills,
so we don't we don't mind getting into it a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
All right, I'm just gonna go for it because it
was a wild trade deadline week and you're the closest
person that I can really ask about this. So Jannis
requested a trade, but then did they get traded? And
then now he's just back on the team, Like what
is that? What's the vibe of that? When it's like
(02:01):
your star players like, well, I want to leave, I
want to get the fuck out of here, and then actually,
now I'm gonna stay well.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I think it starts with literally what he's doing now
you can kind of see him, you kind of can't,
like he's just out there putting it work. Bro. I
think that's a really big thing. He worked through all
the noise. I think that, you know, no matter what happens,
no matter what you see, you're always going to see
his face on TV, like we're coming into practice facility,
like ESPN just blasting the mouth. There's a new report
(02:27):
this day. There's okay, he said this this day. But
one thing I got to give him a lot of
credit for, man, is that one. He's been dealing with
this for quite some time now, for the past few years.
But he's very stone faced in front of us. He's
still the same guy. He's joking, he's laughing. He's got
a really like a you know, outgoing personality to him.
You know he's around us, but I mean, you see him.
(02:49):
He posts all the jokes and stuff like that. He
posts like the Wolf of Wall Street thing the other day, like,
you know, it's it's a crazy time. And honestly, I
feel for him, you know what I mean, I you know,
I have not been on his level. But I have
been through, you know, four or five years of trade
rumors or whatnot, and it's not fun. You know, it's
just really just it can mess up your mental can
mess up kind of like the psyche of the team,
you know, especially when he's hurt and not playing. So
(03:10):
it's not an easy time. But again, I think he's
handling it really well. And you know it's not gonna
stop anytime soon. Man. You know I think that. You know,
I'm a conspiracy theorist. Bro. You know what I'm saying,
And what's.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
The theory, what's the what's the theory happening here?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Bro? Well, you know, he's a superstar at the end
of the day, and he's a European superstar at that right,
So when you had this league, you know that's trying
to get his views up, get his marketing up, get
his ratings up, and whatnot. If you were to take
someone out of a small market of his caliber and
put them on a bigger market team, come on, bro, like,
you know what are we talking about? Like, that's just
more eyes, more money, you know, more how you say,
(03:48):
I guess, I guess there's more good stuff coming in
for the league. You know, we don't have to get
into the parentias of the good stuff. But I think
if you know, you know, you know what I mean.
But yeah, if you move someone like him in the
prime of his career to a bigger team, whatnot, man,
the following just goes up crazy as opposed to him
spending his quote unquote best prime years on a small
market team.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Listen, I thought he was gonna come to Brooklyn. I
was ready. We could have been like, hey, what's up?
All right? From your perspective, how does it feel to
be to have your name mentioned in trade rumors? And like,
you know, there was a ton of trades that happened,
and we'll really get into it, but like you're you're
getting up and you're leaving. Forty eight hours later, I
(04:29):
saw Gershon Gabaselli. He literally played in Chicago eighteen hours
later after being traded from the Knicks, Like, how does
that work?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So I personally have never like been dealt or traded,
but I have been in the locker room with guys
who got traded the same day or I remember I
was the Karsler Burt Right and he played for the
Pacers per a minute and we went to go play
Cleveland at Cleveland. He got traded to Cleveland the day
we were playing Cleveland there, so he literally was like,
all right, y'all's been real And it's literally walked down
(05:01):
the hall like to the other locker row. It's like, oh,
it's good, y'all, Like you know, it's it's an interesting
space and interesting landscape. You know, anything can happen in
this league. Anything can happen in this business. I think
that being a younger player, it's tough because you come
in thinking one thing, and the organization have completely different
thoughts than you. And I think the hardest thing is
you have no real communication. No one's really telling you
(05:21):
what's going on. Everything is just speculation. I've been a
part of deals where you know, I personally was about
to get dealt I know for a fact, I you know,
I was about to go to Boston, you know, for
Gordon Hayward. And it's in the summertime, and at the
last second they pulled out of the deal. You know
what I mean. He ended up going like to Charlotte
or something like that. So it's nerve racking, man. You know,
(05:43):
I think that nothing can't prepare you for it. It
just kind of is what it is when you know
across the landscape of the league. But you do just
have to know that, you know, you are an expendable,
you know piece at the end of the day. You know,
and I think what some people get kind of like
mixed up is you're an asset. Bro Like if you
if you're someone who has trade value. That's not a
bad thing in this league, you know what I'm saying,
(06:04):
Like that means people want you, you know. It doesn't
necessarily mean a team gives up on you. It's just
the fact that you are an asset and people can
actually you know, use you in a business Gape. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I mean I was having a conversation the other day
and it was it was about the trade deadline and
all the things happening, and it was kind of like
the moment that Luca got traded from the MAVs made
everyone feel like it's a fair game, you know, from
from the NBA side, from the W side, like nobody's
safe because if you move your franchise player, your star
(06:35):
player to another team like that was that was the
craziest thing that ever happened on that That's.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
The day the world stood still. Boy, let me tell you,
everybody remembers where they're at. Everybody remembers what they were doing,
and like when I'm not playing them, Like I'm a
Dallas Mavericks fan, you know, Man, I grew up a
Dallas Mavericks fan, so like that that would hurt me, bro,
you know what I mean. I saw what he was
doing for the city. I saw how much you know,
the culture had it break him and we we were
messed up about that one.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So remind me you guys made trades or known. Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, we traded Cole Anthony and the Beer Coffee the
Phoenix and it was a three team deal. Uh. In return,
we got Uzmin Dang. He's a he's like a third
or fourth year player.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
He played traded like a few times in one day,
three times one day or sometimes.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, he was telling me about it. He said that
he literally was in Chicago suiting up about to play
and they told him, oh, by the way, we're sending
you into Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So like wild, bro, I know, it's it literally is crazy.
I mean you mentioned at the top, like you mentioned
Cleveland and the Cabs and uh trading for uh carousel vert.
It's like they seem to always do that. They just
trade the people that they're playing that same day. I mean,
James Harden is now in Cleveland for Darius Garland. That
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was probably the biggest, the biggest trade surprise that we had.
What what do you feel about that move?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
So being we're in the division, you know what I mean,
and they're you know, I think the Cavs were just
looking to make a win down move. You know, I
played against the Caves last year in the in the
semi finals, and you know, their struggles kind of came
with Darius because he was hurt, you know, and he's
been hurt really the past three four years. And you know,
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this is no knock on Darius because he's a hell
of a player. But what I've learned in the league
is to be a small guard in the playoffs, you're
going to get attacked, You're going to get put in
every single action. Like it's hard to be a small
guard in the playoffs and really defend at a high level.
So I think that they were just trying to make
a move for a guy that obviously is a proven,
proven guy in an All Star and someone who can
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come in and kind of you know, play with these bigs.
You know, I think you have Jared Allen and Evan Mobley,
who are lob threats. You got someone like James hard
to get downhill and I can speak from experience guarding
him that little floater. It looks like a floater every time,
but it could be a lob, could be floater, you
never know. And then just someone who would score at
a high level, you know, alongside Donovan Mitchell. So as
put my GM hat on, I think that was a
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pretty good move. You know. Again, we'll see what happens
in the playoffs. So I think James Harden is still
someone who's trying to prove himself in the playoffs that
he could win at a high level.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, don't let him go left, but
he always goes left that type of situation.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Fash.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, I mean I think that that was that was
an interesting trade, especially because the Cavs were like number
one last year in the postseason and trading that away
and you know, let's see, let's see where they end
up this year. While we're on the topic, I have
to give a shout out to Jenny Busk because she's
my head coach in Seattle and now she she was
with you for a little bit with the Pacers and
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she's still there doing her thing. So shout out to Jenny.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
No man, I got big love for Jenny bro She
I mean, in a male domineered industry, Bro, she really
comes in and holds her own like for real, she knows,
she knows what she's talking about. She's got great energy
every day and like as far as setting an example, bro,
like she's in there working out every day. She's a
human muscle.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
She's like a she literally still be getting it in, bro. Like,
I really respect the way Jenny rocks. She's one of
my favorite coaches. I just played against the Pacers last night,
so I got a chance to catch up with her
and she was really excited about this opportunity with us
as well. So yeah, big love to Jenny Bushie Man.
That's my girl, all right.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
So last question on the on the trade deadline and
stuff like that, Like you know, it doesn't we don't
have as many big trades in the w NBA like things.
I think that they'll start to happen once we if
we ever agree on a CBA, because like the salary
and the cap will be higher, but like, how do
you how do you kind of balance those relationships between
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teammates and coaches and staff where it's like one minute
to there, the next they're not. You know, I saw
like all the cabs saying goodbye to Darius Garland because
he was going to the Clippers, and like, do you
do just take a business approach or what?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
It's a mixed bag. I think you have to be realistic, bro,
and in like, I'm not a bullshitter, bro, Like I've
been this game for quite some time. There are fake
relationships in this industry, you know what I mean. It's
kind of like that, Hey, how's it going, how's the family?
All right? You good? All right? And you keep that
shit moving, you know what I mean? Yeah, But there
also are people that you really, you know, make real
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relationships with. Like me personally, when I was at the
Pacers for ten years straight, I had the same strength coach,
I had the same personal trainer, I had the same
physical therapist, same nutritionist, like through and through for ten years.
So I made real relationships with those people within an organization.
Now there are people who get traded every year who
kind of come in and just kind of check a
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box and hey, how's it going. You're good, all right,
keep and keep it moving. But it just kind of
depends on the player in the situation, you know. I
think that for me personally, one thing I always try
to do. I always try to look out for the
tier one through tier four staff, right, the people who
I literally have to see every day, you know, for
you know, getting my knees right, getting my ankles right,
the people I live with, the people who take care
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of the chef, like you take care of those people, bro,
because of the people that are taking care of view.
That's a principle I've always lived by. But not everybody
has that mentality. Some people that's come in I'm here
to do my job. I'm here to go home, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, No, I mean they're the hardest working ones, honestly.
That's what I believe is they're the ones that are
making the the engine run or the ship go. So
we always appreciate the people behind the scenes that are
helping make our teams go.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Equipment managers is there. It's negative ten degrees. Outside of
getting all the bags and stuff like that, it's a
lot of off the plane work. Yeah, man, So interesting enough,
speaking of like the business side of things. I know
there's a new wn B, a CBA update. I think
it was last Friday that you guys may have had
another you know, I guess, I guess another headline come
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up if you will. You know, I'm not sure if
it was an agreement, but you know, what do you
what do you got going on that side of things?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Honestly, Yeah, we just got a new proposal, latest proposal.
We haven't had a response back since our proposal, like
on Christmas, so this was a long time coming. And
before I can get into the details about that, which
I don't think I can really get into many details,
we had a call that was I think very important
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and very positive. So usually the meetings with the league
happened in person, right, it's the the l RC, which
is like the some owners of the league that are
on the committee, the our commissioner, Kathy, the lawyers, and
then it's our side, the PA Terry Jackson, our president
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or our leader from the union. So it's not often
that we have players in the room all the time.
So we were able to have players in the room.
We had players on the zoom, and we were hearing
from owners like Matt Eshpia of the Mercury and the Sons,
Clara Whusai who's the Liberty, and the Nets, Jenny Guilder
from Seattle, and it was really important for them to
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hear the perspective of all the players, from players that
make it super Max to players that are probably going
to come in and a vetment and understand our want
and our desire. We really kind of put an emphasis
on making sure that each team has like minimum standards.
It's something that seems easy and like, you know, we
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should always have, but not all teams do it. So
if there's not a rule creating minimum standards where you
have to have a chef, where you have to have
like a massage therapist on the road, where you have
to have a practice facility like within the next two years,
they won't do it. And while most people won't choose
to go to those teams, some people will have to.
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So now we said, no, we want a minimum standards
in writing, because whether you get a chef or whether
you get somebody from delivering food from Little Caesars, like,
you're still getting the food aspect, but then people will
be able to see who's trying to invest in their
team and who's not and from there those owners can
get out basically and you know, we'll find people that
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want to continue to progress with the league. So I
think that that call was great just from being able
to hear the perspective of both sides, from the league side,
from the player side, and what we want. So our
recent CBA proposal that we got, there's movement, there's like traction.
We're finally like headed in a direction. So I'm excited.
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I'm excited to hopefully negotiate back and you know, really
really kind of do the negotiations because unfortunately he's been
like eighteen seventeen eighteen months and we haven't like negotiated.
We've been just fighting about, well, we don't like your proposal,
and you don't like our proposal, and nobody's gonna budget.
So it's it's been pretty frustrating. But I've been trying
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to to kind of be as involved as I can.
I was on I was on the Zoom for like
four hours that Monday, and then we had at five
at night and it was like, this is this is
the one time where I'm like, I wish I didn't
have a game day today. But it's like I don't
want to I don't want to miss the moments. I
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want to be there and make sure that I'm helping
make sure that all questions are asked and people understand
everything that's going on.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Of course, Man, shout out to you for holding for
a firm to story for real, because I feel like
you know, you're really putting on for not only y'all
right now, but for the next generation of players coming
out man, And like, you're right, you are going to
be part of an integral part in history. And I
think that just from a player perspective, there are certain
like standards that we uphold an NBA as well. You're right,
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like we have to have practice, so we have to
have a chef, we have to have these massage therapist,
because if we don't have these hands, we can't perform
at our highest level. You know, we shouldn't have to
outsource and start trusting outside companies, the third party companies
to you know, be able to form under in y'all's facilities,
right and then then then under y'all's lead. Because I
don't know, man, I just know that there's certain things
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that some of the guys that of things have that
you guys are particularly fighting for but you shouldn't have
to fight for us because it should be like now negotiable.
And you know, I think there's there's arguments to both sides.
So when it comes to owners, there's always gonna be
about revenue. And you know, if you were shipping money
coming in, money coming out. But I don't know, man,
I just think that you you're fighting a good fight.
And you know, I think I don't think the guys
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on the NBA side truly see what's really going on
the WNBA side. We only hear headlines. We don't realize
that you're on zoom calls for four hours a day,
that you have games. You don't realize that you're spearheading
these conversations, you know, as one of the faces of
the league. You know, if the shop was another foot,
you know, it's it be a lot. I think it'd
be a lot tougher. Nothing you're handling really well.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
So yeah, I appreciate it. I mean, we're we're in
a new we're in a new place and it's a
great place to be in. You know, we're now going
to be a part of a revenue shared sharing model,
which is historic for the w n b A and
and really for the future to come. And and now
it's it's kind of understanding that, you know, how does
that work, How is the money, how is it separated?
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Where can we negotiate all these things? So you know,
while it is tiring and taxing, like you you want
to be a part of it to make sure that
you know it's for the better of the players. And
also the league is going to continue to grow and
thrive at such an important point, so you know what,
we're not done. Hopefully eventually we'll be able to I'll
be able to be like, oh my god, Miles, like
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it's finished, like it's over and it's it's going to
be incredible. But until then, we just keep trucking along.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Sure. Now I got to ask a question that obviously
everyone wants to know, is you know, are you feeling
better about having wa in WBA season now or we
still just kind of, you know, wait to see what happens.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I'm feeling better. I'm feeling like the owners are finally
like really acknowledging and being receptive of what we want,
and the players as well. You know, we all had
to kind of put our business hats on and get
into that mindset, and I'm hoping we can get this
thing done quickly so then we're so then we're not late.
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And that's the thing. It's like I've been telling them
is now that we're a part of a revenue shared model,
like you miss games, less money, and not to say
that we should submit and just say yes to any
proposal that we don't like, but like, this is a
business now, and this is how businesses go.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, I guess you said time will sell man. You know,
I think we're all waiting patiently signed to toss the
break man when we come back, when we talk about
All Star, who was snubbed the new US versus World format?
Who would win on the NBA one on one turnament,
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Welcome back to game recognized game with Stewie and Miles,
and let's do it, man, let's talk about the NBA
All Star Game. I feel like there's a lot of controversy,
you know, within the game over the past few years.
But first of all, we got to start off with
the All Stars themselves. I know you pay attention toly, like,
who do you think were some of the biggest snubs
from All Star this year?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
From my perspective. I think the biggest snub was Mike
Porter Junior. You know, I know the Nets aren't doing amazing,
but as far as his stat line, he's he's been
shooting the ball incredibly well, scoring at a high clip.
And you know, I don't know, like to ask you
what do you what do you think about it? What
do you guys think about All Stars? Because you have
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so many top talents that you can't pick everybody. But
also it seems like a lot of times people are
getting snubbed.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I think that's the unfortunate part of our game is
the fact that you know, you can have an argument
for say a Michael Porter Junior, but who do you replace?
You know what I mean of the you know, the
ten or ten or how many All Stars that were
you know, selected, Like who who do you take out
and say, well, this is why you should be here now.
I think one where the conference comes in is team success. Right,
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if you're truly an All Star but your team is
losing every game, then you know, yeah, you're putting good numbers,
but are you an All Star? You know, And that's
where some of that comes. So I think some of
like the Brooklyn Nets, like I don't know. They might
be their bottom five like in the league right now,
and you can be averaged at thirty twenty five whatever
it is on a great team or sorry, on a
bad team, But you know, what is your real impact?
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I think that it gets a little dicey when you
kind of start talking about that, because again, you have
to figure out who you're gonna replace.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
You've led the NBA in blocks twice and been a
premiere ren protector on very good teams over the years,
and you've never been to an All Star team, which
is kind of shocking. Like does that weigh on your
mental are you like, you know what, this is a
chip on my shoulder that I need? Or how do
you feel about it?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
So there's a couple of ways that can go about it.
Right when I first my first few a couple of
years in league and whatnot, I was putting up you know,
some numbers whatnot, but I still was a young buck
on the team again the bottom team, trying to make
it or whatnot. Then as I started leading the league
in blocks and started having more you know, I guess
accolades my name, some questions started to arise, and the
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craziest thing that I ever got was like, you don't
rebound enough. So I don't rebound enough to make the
All Star team. You know what I'm saying. I'm a
center that averages six or seven rebounds something like that.
But you know, I scored efficiently, Like I said, I've
I've out blocked an entire organization in a year before,
Like I had more blocks in the Cleveland Cavaliers team
entirely one year. You know, And it gets frustrating because
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I see other guys do exactly what I'm doing and
they get the All Star nds. But you know, team
success is big. You know, if you're the number one,
number two team in the league, then they have to
pick you know, a certain number of guys, and that's
usually how it happens. I think it was the Atlanta Hawks,
Like guys before I was in the league, like in
twenty twelve, they had like four or five guys making
it was like Kyle Corvert, Paul millsuf outhor for Jeff
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t But they were the number one team in the league,
you know what I mean, like a long shot. So
there are definitely politics that go into it as well.
You know, I think that's certain guys in certain relationships,
certain media members, and they help out you know, social
media presence something that's very important as well as far
as fan popularity and then success. You know, it seems
toss something always big. But you know, you also can't
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be an all start averaging you know, twelve thirteen points.
You know, you have to kind of go out there.
And you know mickname, you know, I you know, I've
seen our Horford. I think he averaged like fourteen points
one year and he was an All Star. So it
all depends on, you know, scenario in case. And you know,
it doesn't bother me now and as it used to,
you know, the biggest thing for me now was the
coming in the league. You know, make sure my family's
tating care of, you know, keep building on my legacy
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and is move on from there. So if I'm blessed
making All Star team one day, you know, you know,
I have not put out you know, hope in the
future for that, but as it leads to it, right now,
I do get I do enjoy getting to go back
home and get a chill for a little big get
off my feet.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
So yeah, I mean listen, at least you get a
break like That's the one thing that I feel like
we're jealous about is you guys, good time. We play
on Thursday and then they'll be like All Star games
on Sunday and then you play again on Tuesday, like
it's not a break, just another game in the schedule.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, I feel on that there's a well, there's a
new format this year with kind of the US versus
the world, and really this is where the league is
heading in my opinion. You know, you're seeing all the
stuff that's happening overseas, you know, uh, the European leagues
and Asia leagues and whatnot, and really that's where a
lot of a lot more these NBA players are coming from. So,
you know, an m v P in this league, it
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was the last American to win the MVP. It was
probably James Harden, I don't remember was an American.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Remember he's Cameroon, I know if he played for USA,
so like.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
He played for USA, you know, yeah, but no, but
for real, like all all our MVPs have been European
or you know, or in Joelle's case, African and whatnot,
And you know that's what they're all really spearheading in
our league right now. Most of the top guys think
are you know, foreign, So I think it would be
an interesting format. I think this is what, you know,
the quote unquote world is want to see, like who's
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truly better? What are your thoughts of like just the
format this year it was kind of breaking it all
up entirely.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I think it's gonna be cool. I think it's it's
gonna be something that's interesting. I think that just from
like the business business standpoint, all Star games have been tough.
You know, it's hard to get people to like fully
compete because you're in the middle of your season, Like
why would you want to that type of thing. But
maybe this will bring back some like Olympic juices or
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some some type of pride of you know, USA versus
the world and that type of thing. I'm looking forward
to watching. We'll see how it starts like it. If
it if it starts competitive, you know, I'll stay tuned in.
If it gets a little bit shaky, then you know
I don't, I'll just move on watch something else.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, And to your point, I think that's really what
it was. It's just like trying to get viewership. They're
trying to shake things up to try to like get
guys like to watch. I mean, there's a lot of
stuff going on, man, because I look at the dunk
contest like that shit died years ago, bro, the last
quint dunk dunk contest like my rookie year, like wh
was when with Zach Lavine, Aaron Gordon, you know what
I mean? And this year guys just don't want to
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do it. Man. It's just you know, it's stressed on
their body. You have mostly young guys doing it. I
think this year we've got two seven footers doing it
and just you know, no shade to Jayalen During or
Jackson Hayes, but it looks a lot cooler when somewhat
six p'in one doing these crazy dunks as opposed to
our seven footers out here doing it, you know what
I mean. And I don't know, man, they could mess
around and shocked me and surprise me, but I guess
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the product it just isn't the same as it used
to be. And that's where a lot of the plants
come from. You know. And this isn't just me as
NBA players saying, this is what the people are saying,
you know.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I mean, the bar for the dunk contest is extremely high.
So if it's not like eye popping and something really
cool and like you are jumping off the ground and
getting crazy height, like people are gonna be like, all right,
well that was easy for him.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
What's your opinion on Like what Shaquille O'Neil is doing
right now? He has like his own dunk contest, but
he's having like, you know, professional like dunkers come in
and do this. Like what if the league were to
shake it up and kind of like throw some of
those guys in there as well as NBA players, Like
I don't know, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Mean, listen, give that. I think that's cool. Give someone
else like a chance or an opportunity, you know, give
like a a non NBA dunker an opportunity to win
this whole thing, and maybe that'll like get the competitive
juices going of like, no, this guy can't dunk better
than me. He doesn't have a more creative mind than me.
Open it up. Listen versus NBA versus the World Dunk Contest.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
There you go. There you goes have random people come in.
It gives them a platform as well. You know, maybe
they get their stuff going and I don't know then,
but again, like I'm just trying to find different ways
because again I think that the All Star weekend is
one of our biggest you know, outside of the finals
obviously it's it's one of our biggest weekends. And know
it's for visibility, for marketing, for you know, world markets
coming in and whatnot, and try to be around some
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of the best players. So you got to find the
right form. But yeah, that's me for unrivaled.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
We have one on one competition this week with last
year's champ Fee and the Fista Collier out for the season,
who do you think will win it?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
So who do you how many? How many people could pete?
Speaker 1 (28:16):
So it's thirty two people thirty two, it's not it's
not the entire group. And basically what they've done this
year is they separated it into position pods. So you
have like the the point guards, and then you have
like the shooting guards, and then you have the bigger guards,
and then you have the bigs. So from there it's
going to be one person out of each and then
the positions are going to cross over a little bit,
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but it'll be interesting. Like it's make it ticket. I
think Game two eleven and it's it's one game. You
get knocked out year year out, and they move on.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I've always loved I told you how much. Let Chelsea Gray.
I just think this year has that like that, that
old woman's type of game winn not especially in one
on one like setting. There's no help. You can do
whatever the hell sheit wants. Are you competing? Mm hmm okay,
well shoot I can't. I can't let you out of
there either, But say I played one. Yeah, but I
say obviously you got You've got ones. I've seen you play.
Uh who else? Let me try to think who I
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could think of, just like as far as the one
on one tournament, Uh Nakoscha Clouds, she goes, she gona
be in there.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
She's gonna be playing. Okay, Kelsey Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I love Kelsey Mitchell. She's my high school class fast.
Hell yeah, bro, she I'm trying to think her name
as well. Jackie is Jackie playing Jackie young Jackie's playing.
I like Jackie a lot, bro. I've watched her play,
you know, for quite some time, and I've actually got
to see her developed. Okay, I'm just going out names
at this point. So as far as someone who'd actually win,
actually win the game. I'd have to obviously, you know,
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if I put your head in there as well, because
I'm not going to go against the home team of course.
But outside of that, like I told you, like one
of my favorite players watched Chelsea Gray, so I probably
just say y'all too, just off the top of my head.
But again, if I a knew everybody was playing, what
about Hambry, Derek Hambry, she played Hanby?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, she's playing.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Okay, he's playing.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
You got too many people right now to get you
the practice and to give me some homework. You will
come back and tell us who you think it's gonna win.
But the prize money two hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Oh wow, Okay, see you win when I want.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
You get two hundred k. So, like there's a lot
of money on the line and it to be spicy.
So let's see what happens.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
My goal.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I'm starting my goals low right now because last year
I didn't even get to score a point. So once
I score that point, I'm gonna be so happy and
then try to move on.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You take it from there. At least you got the
experience of it all. I don't know man, I wonder
the NBA side, you know, whatever, kind of move into
something like that, because that's really what the people want
to see. But I think US ABA players have too
much pride or too much ego, you know what I mean.
I feel like if you have something like that, you know,
some guys don't want to get exposed.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
That's the way I see it. You know, I think
that there are a few guys in this league that
everybody would love to see. You know, I think that
we all got ones, man, like a lot of us.
You know, you don't get to see it on like
the team side of things. But I don't know who's
some guys, like I said, in the NBA side, you'd
like to see.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I don't know. When I think about the ones from
the NBA side, I think about like the USA basketball
videos of them playing one on one of like Katie
and Paul George and Devin Booker kind of going at it. So,
I mean, we've we've talked about Katie before. Like his
offensive arsenal is is unheard of, so I would love
(31:32):
to see anybody trying to stop him. I think I
think he would. He would win if Jamal Crawford was
in the league. Still listen, he has he has a
bag too. Yeah, it's tough. It's like when you play
one on one like that, like you have to play
like the best of three or best of five, because
I feel anything can happen in one game. Mh you know, like, yeah,
(31:56):
of course you have to kind of solidify it a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, you gets hot with that because you just you
could just have like a good like ten minute stretches,
do whatever the hell you want, and then get cold.
So I don't know, man, Like I said, ones are fun.
Man gets the competitive juice is going. I don't think
it happens enough in our league. And I personally like
to c D NBA kind of do like a competition
like that, you know, and I'll start weakend and just
bring more eyes and attention to things.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Listen, you he heard it here. First bring the bring
the one on one to the NBA like making a
big pot. And then you know what we should do.
We should have a two on two crossover with the
w m okay and get the opponent. Look at we
could be teammates.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Now they have stretch the floor, protect the rim. That's
easy work. Yeah, with that, man, y'all. Y'all gotta make
it pop off first though, Man, I'm excited to see
you know how the I guess turn out, you know,
from the from the one we won itself. And then
if y'all make it hot there, man, maybe we take
a page out of y'alls.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
But literally, if I'm win, if I win the next
time we do this, pot I'm just have money just
braining behind me.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Just have marks on the deck, just like doing exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
All right, all right, time for one more break. Next up,
we go off the court and get personal. Welcome back
(33:25):
to game recognized game with Stewie and Miles, and we're
going off the court. We're getting a little bit personal.
Miles wants you to talk about one of your projects
that you're working on and how people can continue to
be more involved and what we can do to help
support you.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, no course, man. So I've always been on the
philanthropic side of things, you know, I've worked with the
homeless in the past, you know, food and secure, and
I'm taking a new approach now man, I'm getting into
the animal side of things. I recently started my own
pet foundation. It's called the Casper Foundation, is named after
my cat Casper. He's inspiration behind it all, my pride
and joy if you will. But yeah, so we're our
(34:05):
biggest thing, man, is like we're really trying to uplift
you know, our animal communities, you know, especially our animal
shelters whatnot. You know, we're on the advocacy kind of things.
We want people to adopt and uh and rescue these animals.
So I mean, I think we're non profit fibles of
five on one C three. You know, donations are obviously encouraged,
but the biggest way can really help us is just
to go out there and just you know, keep advocating,
(34:25):
you know, for the you know, for the ones that
don't have a voice, the voice the voices what we
call them. You know, we're we're based, we're a cat
like centric foundation, but we're not like you know, we
don't exclude dogs and don't exclude you know, rabbits, you
don't exclude like any like these domesticated animals that should
go out there and get and you know, I'm just
kind of trying to spread the word a little bit more.
(34:45):
There's not a lot of professional athletes that you know,
advocate on the cat side of things. You know, everything
We're in a very dog dominated, uh country, you know,
and as you know, a lot of STI.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
But again, man, always to save the cats too, of course.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Man see, and I'm glad that you're on it. I've
always been a huge proponent on animal advocacy and I
just wanted to take it, you know, give a bigger
platform to you know, having the platform that we have
in the League and the Association, I just wanted to
open up so to our listeners, to all the describers
out there. You know, you can find us on Instagram,
find us on the CAST foundation, dot com or dot org,
I should say, and you know, again, please help out
(35:24):
any way you can. You know, any even a penny
of a donation makes a huge difference. And just so
you know, like the what the money goes to is
for the neon natal you know, kittens, neon needle puplic
puppies that come out. You know, money goes towards adoption efforts,
and you know, a whole bunch of other good things. Man,
this is just the foundation. I'm just pocketing y'all's bread,
(35:45):
you know, I'm saying, I'm actually trying to get back
to the community itself. So again, Man, it's something I'm
very excited about and something that's in its beginning stages,
but we're hoping to grow, you know, fromling ground up.
So yeah, we're excited about it.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Shout out to the Casper Foundation. Yeah, I want you
to bring some pets. I want you to bring some
pets on the pod.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
And be like if you would like, and they're all
for adoption. You're right now. I recently partnered with the
Wisconsin Humane Society, man, so you know, we got a
good partnership with them and can't continue to you know,
bring that up. But crazy transition, so you know, just
kind of you know, it's kind of been something on
mind my mind, you know, to say the least. You know,
(36:24):
you had a very powerful statement, you know during one
of your games, you know, a couple of weeks ago.
I think you know, you came out it was I
think during the national anthem. We I was pregame warm
ups and you had an abolished ice sign And you
know that is a very sensitive word to a lot
of people right now, But just a statement that you gave,
can you just speak to what you were trying to
(36:45):
get accomplished there?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah? Absolutely, I mean I think that with all of
the things happening all over this country, but specifically in Minnesota,
seeing the death of Renee Good, seeing the death of
Alex pretty like people getting killed on the streets for
advocating and trying to literally, like we said, like be
(37:08):
a voice for the voiceless. I was disgusted, and I
was like I was, I wanted to do something, and
I was just thinking about what's a way that I
can literally send a message and not be too specific,
but show Minnesota and really everyone in the country that
(37:30):
I'm thinking about them. So I didn't tell many people,
but I had abolished ice written on a sign and
for my intros, I walked out and I just showed it,
because it's like, while we're playing basketball, there's so many
other bigger things happening in our country and in this world.
And really the messaging behind it was to bring people
(37:53):
and communities together and with new policies, you know, instead
of you know, rip families apart and fueling fear and violence.
I think that there's some things that need to be
done in our country that can make it better, and
and wanting to be a part of that, you know,
wanting to help make a make a change and make
(38:14):
a difference. You know, you see kids getting taken from
their homes and and people people leaving and not knowing
when they're going to return and things like that, and
it's just a little bit sickening. And that's that was
my motivation behind it, was knowing that, you know, while
I am able to wake up and play basketball every
(38:36):
single day, and I'm super happy and fortunate about that,
like I'm also saying what's happening to others and wanting
to acknowledge that.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
There definitely bigger things going on. I think just us
as a nation, we're so desensitized to violence you nowadays,
you know what I mean. And I think that when
stuff like this occurs, I think people kind of take
the approach of like, oh, oh well, all right, moving on,
you know. And I think that you took, you know,
againt use your platform in a very strong moment just
to bring awareness to what's going on. It's like, yeah,
(39:06):
we played basketball for entertainment. Yea, we live a blessed lifestyle,
but there also there are all things that we feel
very strongly about just as people, as you as citizens.
You know, again, people have a lot of opinions on
but are too afraid to speak on. So I think
that was a big moment for yourself and something that
needs to continue to be talked about.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yeah, I mean I appreciate that. And and like you said,
it's it's normalized way too much. So let's kind of
unnormalize it a little bit and make sure we talk
and acknowledge when someone is being you know, killed on
the street and in our country that's somedeed.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Man. Man, well, I think that's a crazy way to
kind of wrap up the show. I think that you know,
it's still you know, for us on this show. I mean,
we do enjoy talking about all sorts of different types
of topics. So as far as our fans, our subscribers, like,
please like sending anything you wanted to talk about, sending
anything that you care it's just on y'all's mind. Doesn't
(39:59):
have to be just bad basketball, man. It could be
you know, society centric, it could be the stuff that's
going on, you know, just in our everyday lives.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Please, I think that this is a you know, an
amazing platform that I heard is you know, provided us
with and we can continue to talk about you know,
ongoing stuff like this. Please describe the game recognized game.
We'll see you next time. H
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