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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I played fullback and I played outside linebackers.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
When'd you stop playing?
Speaker 1 (00:05):
I stopped playing in high school. I played one year
and then I quit because it was like football. Hang
out with Doctor Dre football. Hang out with Doctor Dre.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Just football. How did that turn out? Okay, it turned
out all right.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. There's Tyler
Jackson Riverside, and we're on a mission to find the
greatest game of all time. On today's episode, we are
covering Super Bowl eighteen with rap legend, founder of the
Big Three and president of the Raider Nation ice Cube
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in the nuthouse, and we get into talking when he
fell in love.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
With the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
A year or so later, I found out they was
coming to LA and just.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Just so happened, lost his thoughts on Tom Brady, new
owner when I'm a ton don't know exactly. That's a
Raider move right there. And then why he stopped playing football.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
You had to be a quick month. That'll be out
there playing in the pros Man.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
And then we hit the hotline. In this week's Chill Zone,
presented by Core's Light, you gotta stick around to the end.
Games of Names of production of iHeartRadio. January twenty second,
nineteen eighty four. Tampa Stadium in Tampa, Florida.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Super Bowl eighteen. The Silver and Black versus the defending Chumps.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
It's the aller. This is super Bowl eighteen. Silver and
Black beat down. Ice Cube version.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Welcome to games with names. Today we are looking at
super Bowl eighteen Raiders versus Redskins with the one and
only president Raiders Nation Nation. Is it the president?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Come?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You gotta get it right, man, President of the Raiders. Yeah,
you gotta get it right.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
President of the Raiders Nation. Ice Q Welcome to the nuthouse.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
It's Raider Nation. Thank you. I'm here. What was that electoral.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
College process like to get elected President of the Raider Nation?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Hey? You know, they just king me. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
It wasn't no process, talk about it, just king me.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I just you know, gladly accepted. Hey in one sentence.
Why did you pick super Bowl eighteen?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
It was magical for me. Everything came together that day.
LA had a team to me that represented the LA.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I knew.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Before the Rams won a few years back. This was
the only LA super Bowl winning Super Bowl team that
we've had I had just became a Raider fan really
a few years before, on their way to beat the
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Eagles in Super Bowl in nineteen eighty. But they were Oakland. Yeah,
here they Los Angeles, and you know, it was just
kind of the best day to be a Raider fan.
Is still chasing that? Is it the greatest game of
all time? In my you know, it was the greatest
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game of all time far as a Raider game.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
For me?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well, we ask, we ask every game.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I mean, you know, there's there's closer games, there's other
back and forth. But as a Raider, this is the
perfect game. It's the best game I ever seen them play.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Awesome, and we're gonna jump into it. But what's life
looking like these days?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Cube? I call you Cube, right, que come cute?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Just I just never know, like you don't ever want to,
like step on a guy that you've loved since you
were a fucking kid and now you're in the same
room with him and you gotta talk to him. Do
I call it mister c Cube. I just haven't moved
to mister Cube yet. It's coming, but right now it's
just cute, mister Cube. In a few more years, I'll
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be mister cube.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
What's life looking like these days? Everything's great, man, life
is but a dream. You know, it's lovely. I can't complain.
You know, I wouldn't rather be nobody else but me.
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
We we had O'Shea on your son. Yeah, and boy,
first off, he's awesome. And he told us the story
of when you took him out of school and you
brought him to lunch with the rock. Oh yeah, it
went crazy. Everyone loved that story. It was amazing.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I mean, parents should do that for their kids.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Man, Let's go get him out of school and take
him somewhere cool. Yeah, create a memory for life. It
don't get no better for a kid than that. Like
you in school, You thinking I got a rot in
this damn school for another whatever many hours.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Well, and.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Your parents are at the office ready to take you home.
So that's the greatest thing ever. Anyway, that's like Ferris Bueller. Shit,
I get to go home, lady Bums, I'm out of here.
You know, you grab it, You grab it on your
shit so fast, you know what I'm saying, Like you know.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Like everybody, Yeah, you're gone.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
So to not only get him but then take him
to a place like a meeting with the Rock, which
I knew was his favorite person in the world besides
me and his mama. So I you know, I just
wanted to give him one of those great memories. And
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it was because he's on podcasts talking about it.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Man it he's a RAMS fan. He's a RAMS fan.
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
How I feel about it? Well, you know, he's his
own man. You know, it's a good president. You gotta
take the bidder with the sweet.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
It's a good president. You know, he's his own man.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Uh, as long as we don't play in the super Bowl,
we won't have no problems. That'd be a fun That'd
be a fun. She would not be fun for somebody.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Wouldn't take us through the three We're going into our
eighth season. We were just talking about it before the show.
I said, you cannot not be a fan of it
because you have such you got household names that we
all grew up watching, playing in with new talent in
a time where sports are kind of dead right now,
like nobody. Ain't nobody watching baseball until you go to
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like we all watch baseball. When you go to the game,
you want to enjoy the day at the game.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
I mean, postseason baseball is great, amazing.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
That's October though, Yeah, that's October.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You guys hit it perfect by putting it where you
put it. How's it doing right now? How are we
excited for this season?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Coming in?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Doing great? You know, our ratings are amazing. You know
we on CBS and Vice TV. We up twenty nine
percent more than we were last year. Uh so it's up. Yeah,
So that's incredible. You know, like five hundred and eighty
thousand people, that's just you know, the people that they're monitoring.
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But you look at all the other people that they
don't monitor, and you start to see how many people
are really into the game.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
The names you know, playing the game.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
You love the right way, right, I mean the right way,
which is the most important. You know, we play the
game the right way, you know, fast, physical defense, trash talking,
let players beat themselves and you know, not kind of
confine them to being robots, you know, because nobody they
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people getting tired of of emotionalist sports, you know what
I mean, we want the theory back in and that's
what's happening in the Big Three going into our you know,
third game this year and we did pick the sweet spot.
You know, we saw this avoiding the industry because after
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the finals NBA, I would hibernate up until for the
week one of football, you know, like a bear and shit,
you know what I'm saying. I just wouldn't come out
when sports didn't matter until then. And now we got
a season that we can put in there, you know,
ten weeks of fury, every game matter like in the NFL.
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H and you know, we look forward to every week
seeing them battle.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And it's fun because it's three on three.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Everyone plays three on three basketball. I played in a
hoop it up contest back in nineteen ninety three in
Oakland Coliseum in the parking lot. You never all hoop
it up? Yeah, Like that was fun and everyone can
relate to that. And it's fun seeing Dwight Howard this
year in a freaking three on three. Yeah, I mean
this is like straight white man can't jump shit, right,
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you know what I mean? Like this is the fun.
This is fun basketball. The only thing that got me
hot is this whole World Olympics shit where they make
it such a hard process for your guys to actually
get into being able to qualify as a team.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, Well, FOEBA, they've been running you know, the they've
been running basketball for a long time worldwide. Uh USA
Basketball and FOEBA are real close. FEBA has a three
on three league, but it's I mean, it's fever so
it's amateur basketball.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
And so.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
They want our pros to go through the trial process.
They got to qualify in so many games, but they
don't do that for the NBA guys, you know what
I'm saying. So we're saying we're the pro version of
the sport. We got the best three on three league
in the world, and it's not even close. And our
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guys should be able to qualify just on that merit,
just by being able to play in the Big Three.
And and you know, we should put the best players
on the court to win without all these technicalities.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I a thousand percent agree, which I think football is
going to run into this with the Olympics and the
seven on seven semi.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
H you mean with the flag with the flag? Yeah,
I don't think they're gonna run into these issues now.
I think they're gonna treat it just like they would
treat the NBA players playing in the Olympics. They don't
make them qualify, they don't. They just put a team together.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
What about the flag football people like, you know, they
have a world league that they compete in regularly, very
similar to like the Phoebus stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Haven't you heard the NFL?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, it's going to start a professional flag league?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Then here should I have heard this? You think I
would know this.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yes, the NFL is going to start a professional flag
league and they're going to be the standard, you know,
not the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I think Big three should be the standard. And is
that off for still staying with Caitlin Clark? Are we
getting her in there or what? And I think we
moved on. You know, the offer was right for the time.
Her agents hated on it, you know, they didn't let her,
let us talk to her her family, so we never
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really gave it, got a chance to kind of plead
our case on why we thought it would work and
she would be able to play in the w n
b A with our offer too, so she'd been able
to play in both leagues if she was able to.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
You know, handle that. So but we feel like that
ship of sealk so.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Already gone and we're focused and we're focused on the
big names we got like Dwight Howard and Lance Stevenson's,
Michael Beasley, Joe Johnson, Montres, Harold.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Corey Brewer.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
What's the dream lineup for you? Big three line up up?
What's the dream in like two years? Give me, give
me some years, two five years, five years? What's your
dream line up?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Oh? Man?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Uh, Steph Lebron, Katie, Steph Lebron, it ain't nothing wrong
with that lineup?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Man?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Would what would would? Would they not allow?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
So let's put let's put let's paint this picture. Steph
Lebron Katie are in the big three in this hypothetical world.
Olympics come around again, and they're gonna say no to them?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Thank you? Are you gonna say no to them? Come
on now, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Let's jump into your sports fandom. So we know you're
the president of the Raiders Club.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
What other nation?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Raiders Nation? Now Raiders Raider, Raider, Raider Nation? Thank you?
My bad not a name, guy, dude, I'm really bad.
I got hit in the head for a living, bro,
I got hit in the head for.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
A living, all right, that's what you always say that
all you got hitting the head for y'all I got
you know, it ain't gonna work. It only works so far, man,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Take us to the sports fandom of l A. You
love the Raiders. What are the other teams you support
here in l A?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
The Lakers of course, the Dodgers, the Kings, They're all
kind of good right now. Yeah, you know both of
the soccer squads, you know, and hey, I'm pretty much
you know the other some of the other teams, like
the Chargers, they can go back to San Diego.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I love.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I feel bad for San Diego team.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah, I do feel bad for San Diego. Bad for
San Diego because they loved them.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
They lost everybody, and hopefully the Padres stay there. Padres,
do not bring your ass to Los Angeles, damn. So
you know those are my squads? Yeah, you know they
all give you something to cheer about.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah they do.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I mean, did you you had to feel something with
this new transaction with the Bus family selling the team,
because I mean, there's such a huge part of the Lakers.
What do you feel when when you heard that news?
Are you excited? You got to be excited because it's
not mom and pop anymore. But it's also kind of
part of the legacy of the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I like the bus family. Yeah, they did great buy
la with the team. I'm happy for them that they
cashed out. You know, I think you know, somebody come
with ten billion dollars man to buy a damn team,
like you it's not that many people in the world
with that kind of money, So you gotta cash out,
like you know, like where you gonna find somebody with
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twenty billion? They want to put it on a team?
Like how long are you gonna make the valuation go up?
So they did the right thing at the right time.
Kind of sad that it's not you know, Jenny's not
gonna be the you know, final say, And I think
she did a great job in her father and so
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we'll see. You know, the new owners are they winners too?
It brought you know, winning baseball to the Dodgers. Uh,
it looked like the Commanders. Commanders are gonna be pretty good.
And they got a nice quarterback and Hiels he's that's.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
The best quarterback season of all time.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
You know, as long as they bring winning basketball, you
know they're gonna get welcome with open arms.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Hell yeah, when did you start phowing the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Ah man about I mean, like real young, probably before
I can even remember. You know, it was like the
Lakers was always on in my house, always from Will
to Kareem.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
You know it was it was always on.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And then when we got Magic is when I turned
all the way up, turned all the.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Way yeah, I mean that was the height.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I mean, that's when the basket, that's when basketball really
got saved. Yes, because of Magic and Larry that whole
East coast, West coast. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I don't remember. My brother, my brother c J.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
He's nine years older than me, so he I never
really watched college basketball. You know, I was nine, nine,
ten years old, and he was like, you gotta watch tonight.
You gotta watch tonight. So what what what you gotta
see this? It's a player named Magic Johnson. So the
word magic made me think magic. You know, I'm nine
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years old. I'm thinking, damn, he gonna pull a rabbit
out of his head, you know what I'm saying. I
gotta watched this ship. And then he was playing against
a bird, you know what I mean, some dude named bird.
So I'm like, damn, I never heard of a person
named bird. So this is gonna be, you know, a trip.
So I watched it, and you know, Indiana, Michigan State.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
My brother Happy, you know, I'm happy Magic one because
he had the cooler name. And and then my brother
come a few months later saying, guess who we got
on our team as a Laker.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I'm like, who, Magic Johnson. Wow.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
It's like, okay, now I'm all the way, you know,
turned on to the game and just became the biggest
Magic Johnson fan.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
Man.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, that's so crazy. How many championship games have you
been to? Have you been to a lot of these
LA championships? I mean you've been in the scene now
for fucking what.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, I've been to I've been to a few.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
You know, like in the in the late eighties, we
were so deep into the music, early nineties, so deep
into the music. So you know, like when the Lakers
start winning again the two thousands, you know, I was there.
I wasn't really there for showtime because you know, I
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was doing my thing. I was real young. We was broke,
we couldn't get into the form, and we wasn't known yet.
But uh, by the time we got Shaq and Kobe,
you know, I was there, and uh, you know, I
loved every minute of it, and then saw the Kings
win a couple of.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Them and the great one.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah yeah, now we got Otani. You know, watching the
Dodgers win. You know I used to watch them win
at home on TV. But you know, being there with
the Dodgers and the Yankees. Uh, last year was just
you know, as a fan, it don't get no better
to be, you know, in that position, to be of
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to perform.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
And just be part of the whole celebration.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
That was fun. I went to a game. I went
to one of these Dodgers games. Diehard Niners or Giants fan. Yeah,
that don't make you a bad guy, It does not.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
But I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I think you did you open up the game? I
was at the game or something you came up on
like a or car or something. Do you remember you
was at the Where did I see that? You saw that?
Speaker 7 (20:28):
Recently?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
He was?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
He?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, I brought the trump. Yeah that's a cool thing
about l A. You guys stayed tapped into the l
A vibe always.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You know, It's like that Super Bowl when you when
you had the Super Bowl, you guys all went out
like LA has got a cool thing with that.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
L A is a.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
You know, it's a proud city with a lot of
different flavors. You know, it's just not just this one flavor,
you know, it's it's all kind of different. Uh, you know,
culture rule vividness out here. So it's cool that we
get to show it in many different ways.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
What's your Mount Rushmore of LA athletes? Wow?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I would say magic, Okay, got magic. I would say
Marcus Allen. Marcus Allen big game in baseball?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Wow? Wow, man baseball? That's howd so hockey?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Come on, Wayne Gretzky's Yeah, that's a pretty good Mount
Rushmore baseball. You know, let me go with Fernando Vealnezuela.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, that's a good that's all. If you think about it,
that's pretty damn good in all sports.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
All champions.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
It's a hard question for LA too, because you can
even include USC.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And all those That's why I got Marcus Allen in there,
because he both for what he did for USC and
he didn't win. As you know, he'd never played for
the Oakland Raiders. He only played for the LA Raiders.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
It's sad, isn't there like a beef between him and
the Raiders though it was there was did they clean that?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
They cleaned that up?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
You know, I saw him, you know last season or
season before the last had a Raider game. You know,
he and Mark Mark's booth, you know. So, I mean
it's pretty cool. It's because it is you know, you
don't want none of that. He's I interviewed Al Davis.
I was the last person to interview on did you
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I did it? I did a thirty for thirty cars.
I've seen it straight out of LA I've seen it,
and I did the last last interview.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I got a chance to ask him about it.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I remember that because I've been watching.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, he was like, I don't want to talk about it.
You know, I'm not gonna mention that. We're not gonna
go into that. I would say, you know, I'm just
trying to be a good fucking reporter, man, like this
is what this is what you know, this is what
the good ones would ask. So I'm gonna asks you
know what I.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Mean, Hey, that's integrity of the art. Yeah, you know,
I'm like, I'm gonna go all the way with this shit.
And he O G did said, yeah, you know he
v told it.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
But I had to ask, how'd you become a Raiders fan?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Well, I think it was, you know, watching them in
that nineteen eighty season.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah, I was. I was able to really clock the
game better than ever.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
It's like once you get like ten, you start to
be able to clock the sports the right way. You're
just not happy for whoever win. And I like their style,
you know, I like, like my favorite Raiders. They both
wear the same number. It's Marcus Allen and it's Jack Tatum.
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And I used to just love how vicious they weren't
playing the game and how they just seemed like they
didn't give a fuck. And you know, the best colors
in sports, the best logo in sports, best name. Shit,
the Raiders for a football team is a great name.
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So it all just came together, and then they ended
up winning the Super Bowl. I didn't think they was
gonna win, you know that. And Ron Jaworski eagle too,
was pretty formative, you know, and so and uh, they
just played the perfect game that day, you know, great game,
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Kenny King was amazing.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
It your touchdown reception.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, and so I locked in, you know, I was like, yo,
this is my favorite team. And a year or so.
Later found out they were come to La and just
happened lost my ship.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I was like, damn, man, I love this team. And
they came to the cow seeing we was able to
see the games and it was just it was just great.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
That's like a dream come true. Like were you twelve.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
About twelve thirteen?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
That's literally at the peak of when you're a fan
of the game. Yes, like when you fall in love.
You're playing the game in the streets. You're falling. You
can understand it a little. You know the names? Yeah, oh,
what are you say?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I was actually playing football, Pop Warner football, playing Pop Warner.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, playing yeah, pee wee. That was a Pop Warner team.
We was all right, what was your team name?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Damn? It was the har Thorn Rams.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Pop Warner was huge.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I grew up me too.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Everybody played green and White. Don't look right. That was
the Inglewood team.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
We used to we had the Oak Grove, the Rough Riders.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
The Inglewood team.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
The reason they was I used to always be like, damn,
they got the best names because they was called like
the Apaches, the the.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Chero Keys, the Natives.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, they was like they was like the command Cheese,
the you felt like you that you felt like you
just arrows is gonna be sticking out your ass before
you left. Because the Warriors, the fucking Braves, the you know,
it was the style on the logo. I'm like, damn,
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we're playing playing the command. She's like, damn.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
You know when you twelve that name, it's.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Like, man, we got to play in Inglewood too, ship
I hate playing over there, like shit, ain't num.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
But dirt the shitty grass.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, you remember you had the good grass grass.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
So hart Thorn had pretty good grass.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I love Pop Warner. Pop Warner was a huge part
of my life.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
What position did you play?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I played full back and I played outside linebacker. When'd
you stop playing? I stopped playing in high school. I
played one year and then I quick because it was
like football hang out with Doctor Dre. Football hang out
(27:18):
with doctor Dre. I mean, fuck this football? How'd that
turn out?
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
It turned out all right?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Like man, I'm saying, he's you know, six four motherfuckers
like I don't do salute.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
So you playing football in the pros, Like.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
You had to be uh quick, motherfucker to be out
there playing in the pros.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Man, because they're big dudey coming fast. They're big. You know,
I take a hit, know how to not take a hit. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
And everyone's got a superpower. Yeah, if you're up there,
everyone's got something super Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Man, salute to your game. I appreciate it. Used to
always fucking get open too, man. I couldn't. I was like, damn,
how do this motherfucker always getting open?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Seven eleven?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
It's always open, and it's always third and fourteen, third
and thirty seven, third and six, first down, first down,
molded change, moved to chains.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
You know. It was like he was an incredible players.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
You know, I was a part of the unbelievable team
and that was part of my role. It was third downs.
You got to move the change to score touchdowns, and
Gronk would score them.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
That's what I'm saying. Man, you you got to move them.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
But how how are you looking about this new Raiders?
You know we got to be over there?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Is that? What the fun?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
How do we feel fucking to rule? We got tuck
rule guys, the fuck rule guy. We got fuck rule Brady.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Now he's oning the team and he's calling the shots.
How do we feel about this Raider's nation. President, Raider Nation,
greater Nation, Damn Raider Nation. President will cut it in.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
You know, we feel like we've purged the enemy of
their of their superpower.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
That's a raider move right there, that's a raider move.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Here's the enemy of their superpower. Hopefully we can plug
it in and use whatever juice is still.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Left on it.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
I'm excited for him.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
You know, it's like a winner. He's a winner. Pete
Carroll's a winner. Jeane Smith, junie quarterback. I think he's
a winner too. I think he got a chip on
his shoulder that he uh, he ready to get it off.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
So that sounds like a raider he want to sounds
like a lot to prove. To me, it's like a
Jim Plunkett.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, in a way, you know, who was a Patriot,
first pick.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
First pick. So it could it could work. How we
think about him. Huh, he's gonna be a stud.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, me too. You know, we always pick good running backs,
but we don't hold him long enough, you know we
we I mean, we don't get the pieces around him
quick enough for them to do what they do. You know,
it's either we We pretty good on my offence and
(30:22):
you know usually need work on defense.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Well, I'm excited. I'm excited for the Raiders. I'm always
excited for the Raiders. You met with as president of
Raider Nation? Have you met with Brady yet to.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Talk about the No? I haven't.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I think we should. We should brokerage this meeting.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Okay, And just so what I'm gonna tell don't funk
shut up exactly.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Hey, give him that lash, you know, fun up, give
him the fucking Raiders ship.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Okay, you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
You gotta baptize his ass.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Stole the soul. He stole the soul.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Nah, be like, man, please please tell these motherfuckers what
to do.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
To get a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
If you're Tom Brady for a day, what are you
doing as Raider owners?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
As I mean, Tom, I don't know how much he
really can do, you know, but but add a lot
of suggestions to the suggestion box. You know what I'm saying, Like,
being an owner and a minority owner in sports is
(31:37):
it's kind of like just being a lead a super
ticket season holder, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
It is.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
It's like a Super season ticket holder. You know, you
get invited to a few things. But I don't know
how much they listen to you.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, we're gonna find out. Yeah, we'll see a lot
of it depends on whoever the governing governing person.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Well, Mark, you know one thing I like Mark Davis,
and you know he's he's a good dude. He'll listen
to smart people. You know, he's not one of those
hard those dudes who was not looking to you know,
(32:29):
get smarter, get better, figure out, you know, who's who's
the best at what they do, and let him do
what they do without over interfering.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Sometimes you let people cook.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, you know, his pops was accused of too much
being in the sauce a little too much. I think
he you take a slightly different approach. He how to
write people and let them do their thing. And you
know they either swimmers, sink or swim, you know what
I mean, on their own.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
You gotta you know, it's tough, you know, patience is huge.
That's a tough position to be in because the holy
trinity in football is the owner, gm head coach.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
That's the trinity. Yeah, and you.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Actually it's the quarterback too. It's the holy quatrupity whatever
that shit is, you know what I mean? So you
gotta have all those you know, but you gotta be
patient enough to let it marinate. You gotta gotta let
them meet marinate. You can't just you know, you put
it on, put it on real, you gotta let that
thing sit for twenty four hours in the fridge forty years.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
You know, games are long, and you can't panic. You know,
you can like you can't win a game in the
first quarter, but you can lose a game in the
first quarter.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
You know what I'm saying. You could do some stupid shit.
So it's real.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Sometimes you just gotta let the guys play. And to me,
it's really like owner cool GM whatever head coach do
the guys. Are the guys playing their ass off for
this coach and if they are, you know, you gotta
(34:16):
kind of let it roll. They're not playing their ass
off for this coach, then it's something you need to do.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah, but that sometimes you don't have the right players
for that coach.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
That's me.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
That's the thing. You know, like the GM brings in
these guys that don't acclimate to the system that they're
trying to put them in. That's why it's a holy quatrinity.
Whatever the c whatever.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
That's why in the Big Three we don't have a gym. See,
that's why you don't have GM.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
We have a player captain and he gets to pick
two co captains who he's gonna play with, and then
they draft two other players. So we don't have that pop.
He already the chemistry is gonna be there. He's not
gonna pick a guy he don't think he can win
with that, he don't get along with that, he won't
(35:04):
go to war with I get it. So I think
that the other sports leagues need to try to learn
a little from that, because yeah, GM can put together
a bunch of bullshit, you know what I mean, like
and and that you can't really uho's on the field
or they're not working together.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
And then but it's one of those things where then
you got the owner and then you got the head
coach and the GM. The head coach has a meeting
with the owner says, I don't got the fucking players, man,
I don't tell you. Then the GM comes it says, man,
we got the best players in the fucking league, but
we don't have a goddamn coach. And so it's up
to a guy that has to make the decision. That's
not really a football guy. You know, usually in most scenarios,
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someone that's around the game. You guys were blessed to
have Al Davis who was a fucking coach, GM, commissioner,
everything for the league, so he knew football. He could
make those decisions. But a lot of the time these
people don't have that ability to know what they're even doing.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
A smart owner, to me, would know what he don't know.
And we have a football guy there you go handle
that shit.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I don't even hear about it, Like, go talk to
my football guy. I'm just gonna go sit in the
stands with my goddamn family man, take pictures, better win.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
And better win shit.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
And that's the perfect way to segue in to win
into the next subject. We'll be right back after this
quick break. Let's go back into time in January twenty second,
nineteen eighty four, where this game super Bowl eighteen between
the Raiders and the Redskins took place, and go over
some of the pop culture number one movie terms of endearment,
(36:48):
which one is.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
That I don't know, but a billion dollar budget made
one hundred and sixty five million.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I remember this is this a Harrison Ford movie or something.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I haven't seen this movie, but everybody I know, like
all the women I know that seen this movie says
the saddest ship ever made, Like they boohoo because of
the terms of endearment movies.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
One word for best Picture directed by James L.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Brooks.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I mean, so it's it's a big it's a big deal.
It's a huge deal. I gotta watch it. Number one
song Owner of a Lonely Heart by Yes.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Owner a Lonely.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
Own.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah, I remember that ship I had. I had the
twelve anch of that. Did you Yeah? Did you ever
had a beat? They had a good, good beat.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
It could be something that could be picked off and
like turned into a a rap, a rap beat or something.
How do they what do they call that? Like you
know something?
Speaker 4 (37:50):
You know?
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Our first song, uh, Tears for Fears had a song
and it went dum dum.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
No no no.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
And Drey used that for one of our first whack
ass songs that he produced for us when we was
part of a group called the Stereo Crew, song called
She's a Skag.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Don't look it.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Up, I gotta check it out. So what was life
like for you in nineteen eighty four at this time
of your life.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Oh man, this was the best time of my life.
Like I'm fourteen, just starting to rap, actually just starting
to rap, like this second semester January twenty second, Like,
uh so this is my first year ever rapping is
(38:45):
eighty four and love Scarface. I remember my brothers and sisters.
I told you they were older than me, so they
would always take me to inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Movies and shit, I had a seven years It.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Was double features back there, so you could see two
movies that fuck up your world, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
So Scarface was one of them.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I remember when we was going to the movies to
see that, and I heard them talking that, you know,
they was gonna make this movie rated X, and I'm like, oh,
they're talking amongst each other.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
I'm listening Rated X. The fuck what they taking me to? See?
Speaker 8 (39:26):
What?
Speaker 3 (39:27):
What? What?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
What's gonna blow my little mind? And shit, I'm fucking fourteen,
Like what rated X? Like they taken me to a porno?
I know, he said, yeah, but they cut out some
scenes and made it rated ARE. I didn't know what
the movie was about or nothing. I just sat in
and Scarface came on and my mind was blown.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Well did you think I.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Thought it was the best fucking movie I've ever seen
in my life.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
There was not a movie better than this? What part?
Every part? I love Tony Montana.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
I loved the story of you know this immigrant, you know,
being political refuge.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Being shipped to America and hustling, hustler his way up
to the top of the ship and like coked out
his mind and fucking shoot up, you know, like get
get his ship shot up.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Like it was the perfect movie. That was a fun movie.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Run dmc first album is the first album I ever
bought with my own money. And this is the same
year that you started rapping. This is the same year
the huge influence, huge influence. Run DMC bought this record
with me and my man Ronnie Smith down the street.
I think I had seven dollars, he had six, and
(40:52):
we bought the record because it was like twelve twelve.
N No, we bought it a record stored. I was
in our neighborhood called VIP Records. It was in the
Christshaw shopping center and we walked up there and UH
bought the record, walked home and I was fucked up.
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I would keep the record three days. He'd try to
keep it for my money, and he'd always fight over that.
Who had it? You know that fourth day? You know
what I mean? So yeah, that's that's what I remember
from from that record. Sounds like, yeah it was. It
was for a record. I walked down there knocking on
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his door early in the morning. This shit is, mother,
what do you want? I want my record?
Speaker 3 (41:38):
He's sleep. Can you go get it?
Speaker 8 (41:41):
No?
Speaker 1 (41:42):
You know what I mean? Send me back home without
the record. And shit, I'm like, man.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
These kids don't even know. Yeah, like I barely know
about that because I mean.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
I was on CDs. Yeah, you know, my parents were
on they like that and hr Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Like a record was you couldn't hear it unless you
had to, unless you had to.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Or unless you got lucky and heard it on the radio.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Man, who's gonna wait there for that all day? You
wain't no day to hear some ship. That's what was
Buying the record was so magical. It was you had
the actual song, you owned.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
It, owned it, it was yours. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Nobody else might have even had that record. No, they
couldn't listen to the ship to you played you a
Little cloud. Don't you come to my house?
Speaker 3 (42:23):
You got it? I got the record.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Mom's not there.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yeah, we turned all the way up.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
We just turn the ship up open the doors played
the music for the whole neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
And that's fun in the day. That is water balloon.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Fights and ship man music, glaring parents going to work.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
We just literally Friday, yeah, just acting literally just it
was Friday.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
That's one of my favorite movies too. By the way,
thank you that is that's such a fun movie.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Smoking you taking a ship? Yeah, you got you in
your house.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
You gotta drop a fucking Friday Friday line ship soy
NFL Champions or the Raiders Natties for the two A
the you what what this is nineteen eighty four? Is
that that's Jim Kelly.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
You that's the Jim Kelly.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Wow, that's a Jim Kelly.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yeah, you gotta be wow.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Joe Thaisman was the m v P. Yeah, the Raiders beat.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
That's what I thought. That's why I thought we was
going to lose the game.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
He was that good that you remember him being that.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Good Redskins was. It was on fire. Joe Gibbs.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
You couldn't not. It was out scoring the ship out
of everybody.
Speaker 9 (43:37):
Pretty cosar Bernie Kozar was back in the Bernie I
me and Mike Roseire too, because I was actually, uh
still playing football, you know what I mean, was still
I didn't quit until eight you know my next year
eighty like September eighty.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Four, damn, And this is the year Celtics Lakers. So
you're fully.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Man, I was so hurt, Like we I get into
basketball really fully, Like nineteen seventy nine, Lakers get Magic,
nineteen eighty win the championship. So we're the tripping eighty
one lucky shot by the Rockets, win the championship in
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eighty two eighty three, lose the championship because a few
of our players was hurt. Lost to the Sixers. So
now we're about to play the Celtics. My brother got
this sick ass look on his face. I'm like, why
you look like that?
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Oh, your brother nine years got a lot of wisdom
with you.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Said, man, we can't beat them. I was like, what
are you out your rabbit ass? Mine?
Speaker 1 (45:01):
We got Magic Johnson and Kareem. We're gonna beat the
shit out these punks. He said, Man, I sat through
a lot of these. I said, oh he he just
he remember he remember Lake is always losing to the Celtics,
(45:22):
and so we're getting this game and they fucking lose.
They lost, They lost.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
That shit.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
I was just this was the worst Finals that I
ever felt, was this loss right here in eighty four.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
But then you can get you jump in.
Speaker 6 (45:40):
But next year they won.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Next year they won. But it ain't next year right here.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
This is the first time we play in my kind
of uh in my lifetime, so to speak. And it's
the same old fucking song. You know, it's like Jerry
West and Elgin Baylor all over again.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah, but I mean, you guys won a couple of
years before, not against the Celtics.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
It was it was psychological that is psychological warfare.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
It was it was it was it was the worst man,
and it's seven games because you know, you're right there,
I had one game better than that.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
So when did older brother come in and tell you
that before the series?
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Once once they knew it was the Lakers versus the Celtics,
he said right away he knew, just had that look
on his face.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
And he knew, and.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
That ruined did you were you thinking about that the
whole I was thinking.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
A't know what he was talking about. I thought he
was gonna beat him. And then old brother was It
was just like, yeah, he was right.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Olympics held in Los Angeles?
Speaker 3 (46:44):
You remember that? I remember that. Did you go any
of the events? Nothing? I was broke.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah, I didn't go to ship. I would watch it
on TV. I don't really care. And you know, I
was in the hip hop like hip hop was more
important than anything.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
So I was and confident all the time. That's your
brother right here, that's my brother. Is that him?
Speaker 5 (47:07):
Man?
Speaker 2 (47:07):
He got yeah, he got he got the he knows.
He said a couple of things that we've already said,
Michael Michael. Jordan gets drafted third overall mariy Lemue number
one in hockey.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
What do you year for sports?
Speaker 6 (47:20):
Nineteen eighty four?
Speaker 3 (47:20):
This is this is an incredible year for sports for sure.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Now, what do you remember Jordan when you were a kid?
Speaker 3 (47:28):
Amazing? Like you remember when he hit that shot? You
know he hit the shot North Carolina?
Speaker 1 (47:33):
North Carolina because we actually watching James Worthy that game.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
James Worthy was actually the man, not Jordan. Freshman.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Worthy was a senior and Jordan was a freshman, so
we like, you know, Worthy is the man, and it's
a trip because after the game, we get Worthy and
uh Lakers get Worthy and you know Jordan, he just
goes on this fucking tear like not his It doesn't
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seem like after he won the championship. His first year
he was just kind of dominant, but they didn't win
the championship. But when he when he got out and
was like doing the Olympic trials, he was just killing ship.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Like, you know, him being drafted third was.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
It was ridiculous to me. Yeah, he was like he
was killing shit. I know, they was all after the
seven footers by then and who went first? Elijah, I
understand that. I understood Sam Perkins too, you know, he
big coming off of.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
N c A championship run.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
You ever get to meet my MJ. Yeah, like like
early in early in the in the world when you
guys were jumping in hip hop and ship like he's
kind of like the hip hop of fucking basketball. Yeah,
if you think about it.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
I met him, you know, probably like ninety seven. Yeah,
at a at a.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Nike It was a Nike Town event on Wiltshire and
he was in there and I said, what's up. MJ
said what's up? He said, uh, you know, I said,
I told people Friday was my favorite movie, and that
shit got me in trouble. I get you in trouble.
(49:34):
You know all the weed y'all smoking in that damn movie.
I was like this shit.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
Fundy said, shit funny.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
I remember he took my hand and shit felt like
babyfoot or something. It was put off as fuck, like
like you ain't never did it inch of work in
your goddamn like my daddy. Hands felt like she's grated.
Your fucking hands feel like a baby white.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Did you say anything to do?
Speaker 7 (50:03):
Nah?
Speaker 3 (50:03):
I just just clocked it. You know, you's six', six
so that ship was big and it just felt like
a pillow grabbed my.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
HAND i, said, damn he did nothing but bounce of
basketball your whole fucking.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
Life d thought to. MYSELF i don't know, why BUT
i just thought.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
THAT mj got soft, hands he got.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
SHT i can.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Shoot that motherfucker's so. Good you got them soft. Palls
dan probably like a, yes, dang, sweet who is.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
The first cool athlete you met when you were coming?
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Up H Muhammad?
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Ali, Yeah and we was years that, man this had
to be eighty eighty.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
Seven we, uh it's a.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Trip we're coming out of this place Called macola where
we used to get our records. Pressed, though because we
was independence and, ruthless we would go right there On.
Hollywood it Was Santa monica And Sata monica And vine
all around. There and we've been. There we're just walking,
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out walking out of there and ship and we saw.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
Fucking Muhammad ali crossing the street by. Itself what's?
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Up?
Speaker 3 (51:21):
Man it's, like how y'all?
Speaker 1 (51:23):
Doing you, know we make we make records and ship
and he was doing positive things, man you, know boom boom, boom.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
And he had to keep it.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
MOVING i was, like, damn this is the, chant like
this is the greatest of all time right.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Here. Yeah he bigger THAN i thought.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Too he was a big, dude like by himself by, Itself,
laura did he.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
He had or? Yeah he had an or to him
charming probably charming as.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Fuck, yeah you, know it was all. Love it was
like seeing one of your uncles and, ship you know
WHAT i.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
Mean it was just all it.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Was he was as great as you would think he
would be to a, stranger you. Know hell, yeah to
a couple of strangers because we was all you know
WHAT i, mean we was groupie the fuck. Out you,
know it Was. Nick it's the chance. Lucky we let
him leave and, shit he's like, man asking him all
kind of questions and.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Ship you guys are young, too, yeah we.
Speaker 3 (52:26):
You, know sixteen seventeen, eighteen and he's the.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Goat he the.
Speaker 3 (52:30):
Man.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
Yeah can you explain to me the relationship between hip
hop and?
Speaker 3 (52:36):
Sports? Oh? Man hip hop like sports without, music it's
just a.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Game that's HOW i can explain. It the music makes
it all. Magical you. Know even seeing y'all highlights with the,
music it feels like, it's, uh you, know kind of
in concert with each.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
Other you, know it's a.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
Movie, yeah it's it's the soundtrack of the you, know
other than you guys breathing and grunting and running and you,
know and and all the sounds of the. Game but
to add that music to, it it turns in like
into portray in.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
Motion Uh SO i.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Think it's inspirational. Too it, is you, know motiv. Motivation
everyone's got a pregame. List, yeah you know WHAT i,
mean everyone's got something that helps them.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Focused and somebody playing like some pregame soft. Ship you're
looking at them, crazy, like, man that's what you get
hyped up. On you know WHAT i, Mean, Shawley.
Speaker 3 (53:50):
You know What i'm. Saying so you want to you
want to hear that rough? Ship you ready to?
Speaker 2 (53:54):
GO i, Would so this is HOW i used to do.
It my pregame mix used to be real, hard real.
Speaker 3 (54:03):
High.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
Energy, Yeah but AS i got, OLDER i got into movie,
music like, instrumentals, yeah SO i could focus and visualize
WHAT i was going to do on the. Field SO
i listened to some Fucking Holland zimmer Fucking inception fucking
soundtrack and, shit and like put myself LIKE i was
like in it feel you you.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
Know WHAT i.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
Mean that's that's smart because that is situational.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Music because SOMETIMES i can get too involved in the,
lyric so Then i'm thinking about the. Lyric BUT i
want to make my own.
Speaker 3 (54:36):
Lyric and you can ALSO.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
I burn out too too, quick like get too, hyped
and you know you did by the third, Quarter like
it's not a. Sprint you're ready to stop playing, football you.
Know it's like you don't have your feel of the.
Day you want to, well make sure you're not too
given up too much energy.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
Before the game one.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
Thousand we'll be right back after this quick. Break let's
jump into the, game let's break down this, game and
then let's grade this.
Speaker 6 (55:12):
Game so do The redskins real quick Watching redskins record
of fourteen to two head. Coach they were the Raigning
Super bowl champs the year. Before they scored more points
than any team in history any regular season at this,
time with five and forty one chugging still ninth all. Time,
Also John riggins had twenty four rushing touchdowns this, year
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which was the most off season up in this point
defense was stout also only allowed three hundred and thirty
two points this. Season and Future hall Of famous from
this Team Darryl, Green John, Riggins Art Monk Russ, Grim Joe,
gibbs And Bobby.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
Bethard, man this is a formidable, opponent, Man, like this
is your worst nightmare going into The Super. BOWL a
team that is, good who just beat the shit out
out of the last team they played in The Super.
Bowl SO i was nervous as hell going into this.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
Game NOW i got a real quick, question what DID
cj tell you before this?
Speaker 3 (56:12):
Game BECAUSE cj had had a little too much to drink.
Speaker 2 (56:21):
Before this.
Speaker 3 (56:22):
Game so.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
This is the Only Super BOWL i watched do loo
solo solo where in my room door. CLOSED i was too.
Focused they were too loud. TOO i wanted to hear
what everything that was going. ON i didn't want to miss,
nothing and they were too.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
Hyped they was just too fucking loud.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
And conversations that didn't have shit to do with the,
game you know WHAT i.
Speaker 3 (56:54):
Mean you, know it's, like you, know, uh.
Speaker 1 (57:01):
At least plunk it ain't gonna stay out all night
like Like.
Speaker 3 (57:04):
Stabler you, know it's like they just just talking to.
Speaker 1 (57:08):
Yeah AND i don't want to hear the pre. GAME i
want to hear, everything like this is the most important.
Game i'm super, focused you, Know i'm so INTO i played,
football So i'm like into the, ex's the o's to,
that and SO i didn't want to hear that. SHIT
i don't want to hear them crying.
Speaker 3 (57:27):
About the game the whole. TIME i get.
Speaker 2 (57:29):
It my dad does the same thing when he watches.
Games you'd rather watch it at home on his couch by,
himself so people won't talk to.
Speaker 6 (57:36):
Him, yes and when we're thinking about, this resking Teams
it was the Vaunted hogs offensive.
Speaker 1 (57:40):
Line The, hogs they was like the biggest offensive line
that all of them was three hundred pounds at the.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
Time before that was. Annoy they made it a.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
Thing The hogs made three hundred pounds line and the
thing all across the.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
Board.
Speaker 2 (57:57):
Gibbs, yeah love to run that.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
Rock.
Speaker 6 (58:00):
Yeah now what THESE La, raiders this is their second
year IN. La they went twelve and fourteen head Coach Tom.
Flores Jim plunkett was benched mid. Season Mark wilson broke
his shoulder three games, later plunking kick back over and
the rest of.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
History.
Speaker 6 (58:14):
Yeah Marcus allen rushed for over one thousand. Yards they
were anchored by a pretty significant defensive line Including howie
Long Lyle, Alzado reggie Kin, law And Greg. Townsend hall
of famers from this, Team Cliff, Branch Marcus, Allen howie log,
Tend Ted, Hendricks Mike haynes Former Patriot Ray Guy, punter
And Al.
Speaker 2 (58:34):
Davis Lester hayes. Too they had not Just Lester hayes.
Too Lester hayes was the man These they would just
lock the jokers up on the, outside beat you up
and blitz the fuck out of. You, yes that's what
they did all. Game if you watch this, game they, said,
Hey hayes And, haynes you two have. Them everyone, else
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let's go get this fucking puplock for a. Touchdown that
was the first the first.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
Drive, yeah and had an interception by the nickel. Linebacker,
yeah like he never, plays but he comes.
Speaker 2 (59:07):
In but they put that play in because they beat
him with that play that year in the regular, season
and they redid, it and then they redid, it and
when they redid, it they made a nickel, linebacker so
they subbed him in right before that. Play it's fucking
crazy good.
Speaker 1 (59:24):
Coaching this game couldn't have went no better as far
as like blowout Super. Bowl you happy your team is gonna,
win BECAUSE i just was nervous before the, Game, like,
man this were, good but goddamn they're. Great didn't didn't
realize how great we was about to.
Speaker 2 (59:44):
Be but that's how you should always feel when you
go into a, war respecting your. Opponent, yeah you know
WHAT i, Mean that's HOW i felt every TIME i
went Into they're playing the last game for a fucking reason,
exactly you know WHAT i. Mean they have four wins
to get to this spot just like.
Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Us they just want to sup the year before they
want to. Suit you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Know that's that's a good place to be in because
then you never over and never underestimate, them you, know
and then you surprise. Yourself what does it mean to
be a raider to YOU?
Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Q you, know to.
Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Play the game to, win but pick your own rules,
sometimes you, know fuck the rule book and got always
adhere to somebody else's.
Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Structure you, KNOW i was trying to get to.
Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Seven that's a lot of ways to get, there you,
know four plus, three five plus, two six plus, one
zero plus.
Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Seven so they always got to go the way they
rolled it. Up, yeah and that's the raider.
Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Way now it's his eye closed with an eye patch.
ONTO i don't get. That so how's he the symbol? Guy,
yeah his eyes, closed but not a patch to his.
Eyes he's squinty. Eye he has no. Eye the eye
is not. There but if you look at, it look
at his eye is closed and then he is a
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patch on his other.
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Eye well that's so he can't see that glare that you.
See that's not a, splint that's a. Glare he's looking through.
You he's looking through like. Lunch he's looking at. This
that's that gangster. Glare that's, glare that'sangster. Glare fucking you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Guys are just modern day, poets that's all you guys.
Are rappers are like The, seriously every Time i'm around a,
rapper these guys just they always come have a fucking
saying right, away off. Rip that's just how it. Goes
just the.
Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Truth of the. LOGO i know the history of the.
Logo it's called The Gangster. Glare committed to Sixty al,
SAID i want the fucking gangster.
Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Glare gangster, glare that's what we, got and that's what we.
Got who's who's the old?
Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Raider do?
Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
You?
Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Uh Jack? Tatum?
Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Yeah you know he uh he looked like that he'll
do everything that a raider is supposed to do to, you.
Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
All that you think a raider is supposed to do to.
You he looked like he can pull it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Off NOW i know this Is flora's. Team did you
ever have a relationship With?
Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
Matten?
Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Though, NO i stayed a. Fan.
Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Man you, KNOW I i don't like really crossing that
line too much BECAUSE i like being a.
Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Fan, yeah you, KNOW i don't want to uh you,
KNOW i get. It, YEAH i just want TO i
want to be a.
Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
FAN i don't want to influence the game and no,
way shape or form like you, Know i'm funny about,
it giving pep talks and. Ship, yeah it's like you guys,
approached y'all know what to. DO i don't need me
my little fucking laming ass knowledge of the game to
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try to tell y'all how to.
Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Win, yeah but it's not about.
Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
That you're a person that like when someone like you
would come talk to our, team you could always pull from.
Something you're at one of the highest levels of where
you are in your, industry in multiple. Industries so if
you can't pull from something like that to help you in,
yours then you're a.
Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
Dig, it you know WHAT i. Mean i've done it.
BEFORE i get. IT i DON'T i don't seek, it you.
Know to, me it's, UH i don't really even like
being on the sideline doing a game BECAUSE i. DON'T
i don't want to be the. DISTRACTION i don't want
somebody looking at me and somebody like get chassing what
you don't even get chancing?
Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
There what you're doing looking at him?
Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
For you know?
Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
What i'm saying LIKE i, WANT i, WANT i want
them to focus on the game BECAUSE i want my
team to fucking.
Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
WIN i didn't come out there just fucking.
Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
For Another hell's and all that money on parking and
ship FOR. L i could have stayed at home FOR.
L we, Needed we need.
Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
W, comfortable eating good, Food, yeah better views of.
Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
It it's hard to go to a game, Now, yeah
you gotta be you gotta be ready for the. Adventure.
Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Now who's a player that you watched maybe play that
was never a raider that you thought should be a?
Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Raider? Oh man Mean Joe? Green Mean Joe? Green, yeah
me And Joe. Green we.
Speaker 6 (01:04:33):
Asked we Asked Terry bradshaw if me And John green
was actually as mean as he, Was And terry was just, like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
He was your face.
Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Off Jack Lambert Kent, state alumb with the same, School,
Yeah Jack, lambert no, Teeth, YEAH i used to love.
Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
That you.
Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Know it's a few dudes out there THAT i think
could have been a, raider you.
Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
KNOW i, Mean.
Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Ryannie lott, was but but he a. Niner, Yeah Steve
adwater one.
Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Block. Off he's to be a little too.
Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Biblical he could be a little too BIG i, think,
yeah you, know he does a lot Of, NO i
don't think he's. Sure he lit me up once and
like prayed for me. After that's not what A raider would.
Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
Do. Nah, nah he need he, needed he needed to
walk the plank for.
Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
That how weird was it When jerry came, over because
that's WHEN i started liking The? Raiders Low Ki jerry
was sweet?
Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Sweet, yeah, man that dumb ass Uh callaway lost The Super? Bowl,
yeah That callaway? Man lord That, yeah he just gave it.
Away so unfortunately he couldn't win a ring with.
Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Us that that was like a fucking.
Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Movie they literally Trade John gruden to the team that
beats them in The Super. Bowl, yeah how fucking crazy is?
Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
That it's it's it's it should be. Investigated that's how
crazy it. IS i need to go back and look
at every fucking second and frame of That Super.
Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Bowl do you think there was a rule? BROKEN i
Think bill.
Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Dumb Ass callahan didn't change the game plan That grouten.
Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Created that's self, inflicted.
Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
Didn't change the, formation didn't did not change one, formation
and we lost our.
Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Center Uh, Mexico.
Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Mexico you go To mexico and ship and like didn't come. Back,
yeah and a donkey fell in love or some.
Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Ship he couldn't make the Super. Bowl it's only.
Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Big that's crazy in my.
Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
Life it was the worst day of my remember that.
Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Too oh, man it sucks so bad to be in
The San diego trash Ass, stadium WHICH i knew was
a sign we was.
Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Winning the fucking Sissy. WHITE i knew that was a.
Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Sign WHAT cjsa did he give a?
Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
Sign?
Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Oh, man he you, KNOW i THINK i went to this.
GAME i think he stayed at, home but, man you,
KNOW i think he was.
Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Drunk Ntil let's get into this game so.
Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Quick lead.
Speaker 6 (01:07:23):
Up both teams the number one seed from their respective
conferences almost to the Super. Bowl washington beat THE La
rams fifty one to, seven and then The niners twenty
four twenty. One The raiders Beat pittsburgh thirty eight to,
ten and The seahawks thirty. Fourteen this you mentioned, earlier
but this is notably A week five, rematch a regular
season game Where washington eked out a thirty seven to
thirty five. Win shout out To Howie long for having
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five sacks in that.
Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Game five. Sacks, yeah he was a beast.
Speaker 6 (01:07:47):
In this game you mentioned earlier total, blowout but it
started with a punt Block Derek jensen with the scoop and.
Score then in the second Quarter punkett Found branch for
a twelve yard touchdown to make it fourteen to. Nothing
before the, Half washington got greedy trying a screen pass
from their own twelve yard line And Jack squerrik picked
it off and had to pick, six which.
Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
They scored on in the week five, game WHICH i
believe that came and made the turning point of the.
Game after that was in the second, HALF i Believe
washington went down and, scored didn't They but because everyone
was talking about the seventeen point comeback From week, FIVE
i think the turning point of this game Was la
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jumped up twenty one to seven or, THREE i think,
right twenty one three three, yep and they the other
team are they? Scored they came down and had a big, play, Scored,
yeah and then The raiders came back and, answered and
that was when it was, like all, right it ain't
coming back this.
Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
Time, yeah it was.
Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Over it Was dunzie That Marcus Allen ron that run
was so. Cold, yeah it was it was next, Level
LIKE i don't know IF i ever seen somebody like
turn around in the backfield and then go untouched like. Floating,
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yeah like kind of gets stopped on the sweep and
likes turning around and then not get touched all the
way to the end.
Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Zone he looks so smooth when he. Ran, yeah he
was just smooth the ball.
Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Man he was to me one of the best running
backs to ever do it because because of his size
is you, know the way he made the. Game he
made the game seem easy and play forever. Too, yeah
and far as short short yardage on the goal. Line
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i'll Take Marcus allen over, anybody anybody in the. Backfield
give Me Marcus allen when it's you, know first and
goal from the one of the. Two he always, Scored
always never seen him get. Stopped he leaped to, lead
he would, leap he was sliced.
Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Through you're taking him Over Bo jackson Healthy Bo jackson
third and one and two or its fourth and fourth
and goal on the, One Taking Marcus allen over Bo.
Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Jacks Taking Marcus allen Healthy Bo, Jackson, Yep BECAUSE i
THINK i Think Marcus allen can do What bo can.
Do BUT i don't Think bow can do What Marcus
allen could do it from that one yard. LINE i Think,
MARK i Think marcus had more power than people. Thought
his leaping ability and his his nose for the end
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zone was unmatched in the. Pros you, KNOW i don't
know what what uh what bo did in? College you,
know like both the only one that can run a
a solo sweep like nobody.
Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Else go.
Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
There just give him the, ball let him run like
he did his sweep and he didn't want no, blocking.
Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Like nobody pull off and block for, me, y'all just get.
Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Out my, way stick your foot in the. Go, yeah
took it to the, house ran over a dude and
took it to the.
Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
HOUSE i mean he looked like a.
Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Bull, yeah he was two hundred and thirty five pounds
and faster than. Everyone, yes that's fucking that's like not.
Human yeah that's. Terrifying yeah he was a fucking.
Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
Monster.
Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Yeah what's what stood out about this? Game like to, you.
Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
When were you?
Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Comfortable when were you? Excited you're in your room by,
yourself you're what twelve fourteen years old for want to?
Talk when did you fucking say the fat lady SAYING
i don't even know if we can say that.
Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
ANYMORE i start.
Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Feeling good on that, second that That squirerick picked six
before the.
Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
Half that was. It that was WHEN i felt like.
Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
We we were good enough to beat this team like.
Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
That they're not better than us.
Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
TODAY i thought they were a better team than The
raiders going into the, game AND i thought The raiders
was gonna have a very hard time keeping up with this,
team let alone beating.
Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Them, Yea and they shot and they blow them.
Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Out the best feeling in the. World how'd you? CELEBRATE
i drew a. Poster he drew a. POSTER i drew a.
POSTER i drew The raider a, logo but he had
like fucking vampire teeth and ship with blood, Dripping AND
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i was, Like raiders beat The Dead skins thirty eight to.
Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Nine AND i was downtown on.
Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
My brother's shoulders holding this fucking side at the.
Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Parade can you draw pretty? Good it was like it
used to be. GREAT i. STOPPED i stopped doing.
Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
It you're touched By, god, bro you got that creative.
Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Ship thank? You like you can? Draw you? Could, Man that's.
Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Right you, always, yeah you, know you always kind of
want what you don't. Have, Like i'm an athlete and,
stuff BUT i always see how these you, know like
how people in Different you. DON'T i, mean you're definitely very,
blessed you, know but you know WHAT i, Mean you're, like,
damn that would be cool IF i could just pick.
Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
UP i want to win A Super bowl? Too Sh
well you.
Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Did you're the president of The Raider.
Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
Nation, yeah? President then YEAH i. HAVEN'T i haven't won as.
Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
President if they assume Got, Brady, yeah they Got. Brady
raiders winning thirty eight to nine for their Third Super.
Bowl Marcus allen at one hundred and ninety one yards
and two Touchdowns Super BOWL Mvp.
Speaker 6 (01:13:50):
Super BOWL Mvp raised became the second team IN thatfl
history with Three Super, bowls joined The Pittsburgh. Steelers they
also became the first team to score in all three
phases in A Super. Bowl and then in nineteen ninety,
five The raids would LEAVE la and move back To
oakland and then eventually end up In Las.
Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Vegas how we feel about that when they?
Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Left you, know at the, TIME i wasn't REALLY i
was so deep into trying to be the best rapper
in the. World, YEAH i wasn't halfway paying attention BECAUSE
i just, knew you, know they. Suck, now all the
good players were gone pretty. Much we had Fucking Mike
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shanahan who came in and just destroyed the whole aura
of the. Team and nobody was going to the games
and they wasn't, winning So, la you know we, want
you don't, Win you're gonna have some empty. Seats so
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it was time them and The rams. Went the same
day they both left. Town the same. Day they both
played they ass GAME i think On Christmas eve nineteen ninety,
four ninety, yeah, four some shit like.
Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
That at, five they both was.
Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Gone gone. Yeap because that's WHEN i remember. FOOTBALL i
don't remember The La. Raiders that's WHEN i was like,
that don't make you a bad. GUY i was nine
right there when they moved out, THERE i was, like, oh, yeah,
whatever The raiders are.
Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
Here forty nineties was coming alive by.
Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Then, well they were still right in the heat of
the late eighties and they But joe was. Gone so
my family was kind of, divided like we we we
were a Huge Joe montana. Fan, yeah and when they
replaced him With steve and they traded it like my
dad's like stopped beat we became chief sins for a,
second because, like.
Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
How Does steve you only get in The hall Of
fame Before Michael? Ironman can you explain that to?
Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
Me what do you?
Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Mean how does he get in The hall Of fame
Before Michael? Irman Did mike not get in first? BALLOT
i don't Know, Mike ike's, In he's, In But Steve
young made it in.
Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Before Steve young had some records, though like some single season,
ship this quarterback, bias like and. Quarterback, yeah and he
got a Super bowl at that.
Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Time you, know, NO i just SAY, USFL i Say Tampa,
BAY i Say, Nay, YEAH i GET i, MEAN i
just say the route was just.
Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
Funky.
Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Yeah but then he throw for like six touchdowns in
The Super bowl against The, chargers like he had Some,
yeah he had some insane like single season ship Like
i'm talking, That but he.
Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Wasn't jerry j was already get in there Before Michael,
irvin who came in doing his. THING i, MEAN i
know they was one and, five but he won super
bowls with the same.
Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Team, yeah didn't wasn't a. BACKUP i can't argue. That
i'm not going to sit here.
Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
And argue he beat Uh steve in a FEW i
just had a problem with that.
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One like.
Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
You, KNOW i Think Michael aaron desired to be in there.
First mike's in there, Though.
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Yeah he's in.
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There.
Speaker 6 (01:17:10):
Seven Steve young got in two thousand and, five.
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Two years before they came. Up they both lead when
they were. Retiring it could because they retired a year.
Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
Off they retired the same.
Speaker 6 (01:17:21):
Year, no they do wide receivers dirty like T o
didn't get in his first, ballot which they are pretty
tight with the wide.
Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Receivers, Bullh i'm with you right, There i'm with. You
we'll be right back after this quick. Break let's great this.
Game this is clearly the legacy of this game is
that It's LA's first. Championship mm hmmm with the football.
Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
Team, yes so that that's the high grade to, me
that's a high. Grade.
Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Yeah what do we name this? Game these are some
of the names we came up. With silver And black Beat,
down the Black hole. One this one's for Al Marcus.
Allen game just one, Baby what do you like or
do you have something? Else The silver And black Beat?
Down silver And black Beat? Down name the? Game score the?
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Game is this the greatest game of all you how
He long picked just one? BABY Howi long picked just one?
Baby but you know that the president is this the
greatest game of all. Time let's score IT q stakes
zero to ten ten being the best. Ever what are
the stakes of this? Game first Super bowl IN la
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with AN la football?
Speaker 6 (01:18:31):
Test what points?
Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Encouraged points also. Encouraged i'm gonna give it a? Ten? Ten, yes.
Ten so we scored this.
Speaker 6 (01:18:41):
Game With Howi Long jack had a nine point two
out of nine point.
Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
One Howie long had a nine point. Zero what what
you got to think about we've we're. Doing we're trying
to grade the greatest game of all. Time there's been
teams that come they've already won a Super bowl and
then they go into the Super. Bowl the stakes that
game is gonna higher than the stakes of a single
season Regular but, yeah but for, you this could be
the highest for ye because IT'S.
Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
La this is our first you, know shot at a
Super bowl after The rams lost to The, steelers and.
Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
They did it this.
Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
Time SO i think that's and it was the only
one for thirty years.
Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Thirty what about the star? Powers there the ten? Decimals,
okay a.
Speaker 6 (01:19:26):
Lot Of hall Of famers and a lot Of hall of.
Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
Famers, MAN i gotta go with, it you, know it's
it's definitely uh eight point, five eight point.
Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
FIVE i think you gotta go back to The.
Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
Cowboys and The stealers to get more star.
Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
Power you, know it's, like but, yeah eight point.
Speaker 6 (01:19:48):
FIVE i will, say usually the halftime show bumps up
the star power. Score this year Was. Disney it was
A disney halftime.
Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Show, yeah that might bump it, down BUT i went with.
Speaker 6 (01:20:01):
Nine jack had an eight point. FIVE i had an
eight point. Eight how he had an eight point.
Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
Nine, yeah that's kind of that's pretty, high all.
Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Right the gameplay of the, game this was a, blowout
but there was a score in every phase of the.
Game only time it's been done In Super bowl. History
so if you're like a football, person you might like.
It but if you're a viewer of the losing team
got blown out or sometimes people want some, fireworks but
zero to ten, decimals, OKAY.
Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
Q and The raiders played a hell of the. Game
SO i would just.
Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
Give it a a seven point five gameplay because one
team was. Amazing of the integrity, bullshit it's an integrity. Score,
YEAH i went eight point. SEVEN i was terrified of
How we WHEN i was DOING i grated.
Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
IT i grated it in front Of. Howie, YEAH i was.
Terrified now The redskins didn't play. Good jack's had a
six point.
Speaker 6 (01:20:52):
FOUR i had a five point because The raiders had
a perfect, game but The redskins and and then.
Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
How he had a nine point.
Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Zero the name of the, game The silver And black beat.
Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
Down come, on, now that's the best name on the.
Board i'm gonna give it a. Ten. TEN i gave
it also the best name on the.
Speaker 6 (01:21:10):
Board peer Pressured jacket a nine Point, OH i had
a eight point.
Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
One The marcus game would be appropriate, too but but
we gotta Say raiders in all phases kicked.
Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
Ass so the average of all of our scores is.
Eight where does that lead?
Speaker 6 (01:21:27):
In that puts us tied with our sixteen with The
Super bowl thirty Six patriots Versus, rams and just Behind
Super bowl thirty Four titans Versus.
Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
Rams the greatest show on, turf the, longest.
Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
That's that's too, high too? High Super bowl was, well it.
Was it was kind of boring to the. End the
greatest show on. Turf, yeah it was a low scoring
game went down to the last. Play i'll say it
was born to the. End SO i ain't gonna go
(01:22:02):
with that. ONE i think Your Super bowl against The
rams was way better and more.
Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
ENTERTAINING i wasn't in there that, yeah way. Better number
one was twenty eight to three. COMEBACK i don't. Know
there's no bias or. Anything that's not the.
Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
Greatest look at the top. Five there's no.
Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
Bias there's no. Bias, said, damn ain't that Something Malcolm butler.
GAME i who it's actually jacked to make some. HIGHS
i ain't Super blood Wolf moon, game THE Aft.
Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
Championship, yeah that twenty eight to three game was.
Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
That was some shit BECAUSE i remember watching that, game
had a house full of people and we're going crazy
because we want The falcons to win no, offense but
The patriots was they had hurt so many of our
hearts over the. Years we was, like you, know let's
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get one for THE A and everybody's talking during, halftime
were drinking food, everywhere halfway paying attention to the, game
And i'm like looking out the corner of my eye
And i'm just, saying Like.
Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
I'm starting to do the math in my, head like
do they.
Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
Have enough, time if they, scored if they get the ball,
back if they oh they got the, ball but oh
shit They and it goes from us not paying attention to.
Shit so everybody slowly but surely locking back into the
game to see to come.
Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
Back and, uh you.
Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
Know i'm talking to my friend From atlanta and, shit
and he just he almost shit a. Chicken. Man he
was so fucking beside, hisself you know What i'm. Saying
he was so beside, himself and he JUST i was,
like man, like we're gonna do a wellness check on
you later on, tonight because don't kill yourself in no fucking.
Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Game Man. Like it. Was it was. Bad it was,
bad but it was a great fucking.
Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Comeback you know What i'm gonna pull from something from this.
Episode what you said you were what fourteen you went in? Saftcarface,
yeah people like, you people like me to, say that's
a fucking bad. Guy, yeah we're the fucking bad, Guy
yes we. ARE i JUST i just felt like it
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was it was. Playable you, know everyone needs a fucking
bad guy to look.
Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
At that's a bad. Guy that's. Him he could punch
your fucking, Finger you could put your, finger punch your.
Fingers say that's the bad that's a fucking back. Hand
i'm the fucking back. Hand you.
Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
Know The patriots were the fucking bad.
Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
Guys it's, cool it's all you. Know this is what
you want.
Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Football you need you, need you need a, threshold you
need a something to.
Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Chase and the great thing about this league there was
a time where it was you, guys and there was
a time when it was the ninth and then there's
a time now it's The. Chiefs you know who's it
gonna be? Next is it gonna be The?
Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
Chiefs? Eagles is it The? Eagle or is it?
Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
Not?
Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
Cube do we miss anything from this?
Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
Game we didn't miss, anything. Dude i'm so.
Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
APPRECIATIVE i am so appreciative of your. Time you gave
us an hour. Thirty thank.
Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
You.
Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
Everyone go out and check Out Big Three saturdays And
sundays this summer ON cbs And. Vice what is The
truth To Power?
Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
Time oh, man that's that's my tour That i'm doing
in the in the. Fall i've been in the game forty. Years,
man are you are you? START i start rapping in
nineteen eighty, four made my first hit, song WHEN i
was sixteen and nineteen eighty five SONG i wrote Called
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boys in The hood For, Easy rest in peace, Gout
like four decades in the, game it's time to celebrate
with a big, tour you. Know so we're doing a
big production to, celebrate you, know from n waight and now.
Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
We got some we're you hitting like all cities or. What,
yeah we're hitting everywhere we go In. Boston of, Course
i'm gonna have to check it out here In la
n And. MON i want to come check it, out,
dude because if you do have it like you like
you said you it's crazy that rap and hip hop
have a they have forty years under the belt, Now, yeah,
man isn't that gnarly because your guys.
Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
Are some dudes got sixty, Years that's WHAT i, Mean
like that it's come that. Far, yeah it.
Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Is and like you're a huge part of. It and
it's such a pleasure and an honor to have you
here in the nuthouse to talk about the. GAME i
love football because you're the president Of Raider, nation which
is a cornerstone organization for the game THAT i fucking. Love, yeah,
Yay SO i appreciate you coming in. Here everyone go
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check out the tickets to the Tour truth To Power,
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song we all wrapped every song tickets at ice cube
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we're working on the game playing right.
Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
Now you.
Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Know get me in, there, man, CAMEO i keep your,
mind all keep you in. Mind just you need a,
square white. Dude i'm right, there. Nerd SOMETHING i can.
Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
ROLL i can, roll, MAN i got. You thank, you.
Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
BRO i appreciate you coming in anytime every.
Speaker 6 (01:27:30):
Time Man, cube what the fuck he's you were so?
Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
NERVOUS i was that? NERVOUS yea was?
Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
That?
Speaker 6 (01:27:38):
Yeah yeah he settled in when he was like, Cool
but you're, nervous you get.
Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
Nervous fucking Ice.
Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
CUBE i KNOW i was fucking.
Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
NERVOUS i didn't sleep last.
Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
NIGHT i literally, Like i've watched his, Movies i've wrapped his.
Songs i've grown up with him SINCE i was like
like the first like ninety four and ninety, three two
or ninety four or six. Whatever THAT'S i remember that.
Speaker 6 (01:28:03):
Ship Everything i've heard About cube is that he was
cool as?
Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
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Speaker 6 (01:28:09):
Cool is here our most famous guest.
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Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
CUTE i mean cube, TAPS i mean his cube is cube,
huge cube huge.
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Edelmen, yeah Probably frank so.
Speaker 6 (01:28:28):
COOL i could have talked to him for like there
was like he.
Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Has LITERALLY i gave us an hour and a.
Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
Half, yeah that's WHAT i. Said an hour and a half.
Speaker 6 (01:28:36):
AFTER i always feel LIKE i always feel like we're
stealing when we do, that and you're, like thanks for
giving us an hour and thirty six minutes of your.
Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Time it was our twenty.
Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
SEVEN i hope you have a friend of sitting in. Traffic,
hey we told him time and.
Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Place, yeah, no he was cool that you can tell
him he picked the. Time he's gonna see the he's
gonna see the. Traffic you can always tell he's gonna
see the.
Speaker 6 (01:28:54):
Traffic if a guest was here past how long they wanted,
to depending on how they operate post, show and he
would he was like chilling a little. Bit he walked
through like the, Stuff and you know when they do,
that it's Like, okay he's not like he's not.
Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
Rushing, well he's a really he's actually a curious. Person
if you if you see like and hear how he.
Talks like when he was a, kid he was you,
know he would lock himself and he was really curious
about the game of. Football, yeah you, know he's curious
about the things on the on the. Wall after you,
know he, left he's, like, wait, MAN i want to.
Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
See this real, quick you.
Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
Know and that's an artist's, trade that's curiosity is. Awesome
SO i try to teach my damn fucking daughter go be.
Speaker 6 (01:29:35):
CURIOUS i, mean that's what that was your note early
on in the podcast, Game it's, like be.
Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
CURIOUS i heard that from. Somewhere Colin. Coward Colin coward
just did a show today.
Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
Too how was?
Speaker 6 (01:29:47):
That did you talk About Aaron?
Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
Rodgers we, Did Jesus, christ we fucking did talked About Aaron.
Rodgers god.
Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
WHAT i was just, okay we.
Speaker 10 (01:30:02):
Did, hey if it bleeds it, leads, well, uh one
more thing on Ice cube before we wrap up on Ice,
cube him quitting football to hang out with Doctor.
Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
Dre come on clip send Beating they.
Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
Went home At ali in nineteen eighty seven randomly by
himself Crossing sunset and like he's at like.
Speaker 6 (01:30:25):
Here's a great talking spot where and he's.
Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
Probably at like the culture point of where he. Is he's,
like you, know the young hot studs of the whole music,
industry but like still not kind of. Known, yeah because
that's what he kind of explained that. All he didn't
really know him.
Speaker 6 (01:30:42):
Yet, yeah well just, yeah you, know we gotta go
to The Big three he. Invited oh, yeah and we
should go to that concert. Too definitely want to hit the.
Concert got to hit the concert.
Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
COOL i gotta we got the business card cube vision.
Speaker 6 (01:30:59):
Sick uh before we get to the postgame, segment, uh
the chill zone we. HAVE i think we've announced the
live show probably at this. Point if there's tickets still,
available make sure we're coming back To. Boston we're gonna
Be august twenty eighth the MG A Mgm Music hall
At fenway In, boston sick fucking venues where.
Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
You did The Doctor phil. Thing that was very.
Speaker 6 (01:31:21):
Fun we'll have to sneak onto the. Field it's gonna Be,
Gronk it's gonna be, There jewels is gonna be. There
some celebrity friends and. Athletes it's gonna be a whole
fucking great, night just one. Show if tickets are still,
available get them now ticketmaster dot.
Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
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Cores was That? DIAMONDS i don't.
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Know phone number is four two four two nine one
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Speaker 5 (01:32:03):
Zero, Hey, JULIAN i was just warning and then take
it back to your, college says if you had any
advice for any walk.
Speaker 4 (01:32:14):
On.
Speaker 5 (01:32:15):
You know that's just coming into, college coming into their
own for the younger, kids any advice for maybe a
zero star recruiter or a recruit that's just you, know
not looked that by too many. Colleges just let me
know your thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Advice for Walk ons zero star recruit my advice would,
be you have to be first in every. Conditioning you
have to be the first one, there the last one to.
Leave you have to make them tell you to. Leave
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you have to know everything.
Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
In every.
Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
Meeting you should become very close with the special.
Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
Teams.
Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
Coach you should live in his back. Pocket you should
know every special team responsibility and then whether you're on
offense and, defense you need to know every responsibility for
that because if you have any, opportunity if even if
it's with like the threes versus the fours and the
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if you have a, play you have to have a plus.
Play there can't be a negative. Play you need to
know where to line. Up you need to know where to.
Go you need to know the responsibility. Defense you need
to be able to execute what you have to do on,
offense and if you do, that you might have a.
Shot you have to have them tell you to slow.
(01:33:46):
Down you have to be balls to the walls all
fucking day and you gotta stay. Healthy so you have
to you have to make yourself so desp you have
to like a crash dummy in like special teams or
an offense when you're maybe a receiver or whatever and
(01:34:07):
you have to go in and, block you got to
have them tell you to slow. Down you can't be
a problem. Though you can't hurt an other. Guys you
can't hear the star or. Anything but there's got there's
a fine. Line that's WHAT i would do.
Speaker 6 (01:34:18):
Did kin still have like tryouts for student body at?
ALL i don't remember all the all the Walk ons
are all like through a recruiting.
Speaker 3 (01:34:25):
Process you just don't get. SCHOLARSHIP i don't even, remember,
yeah at all.
Speaker 7 (01:34:31):
Schools Jackie tyler of the Pot eric From detroit TO
i wanted to make a request for not necessarily a,
game but an era in sports. History if you could
do something with the Bad Boys piston tell, yeah just
you know the hate that they got along with maybe
games Against, jordan games against The, celtics games against The
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lakers behell of a. Podcast thanks a, lot boys keep
doing big.
Speaker 5 (01:34:55):
THINGS i would.
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Love to Get, Thomas Isaiah.
Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
Thomas fucking Get Isaiah thomas out.
Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
Here When Michael jordan not come?
Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
On Then Rodman, Robin but you Want roby for A bulls.
Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
Game we've been.
Speaker 6 (01:35:08):
Trying to Get robin. For we should, push we should
reach back out on that front On, Rodman Bill ambier his, Media.
Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
Yeah Bill, Lambier, Yeah Isiah.
Speaker 6 (01:35:17):
Thomas Barry brown coached some of Those pistons teams later.
Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
On those were THE i like those. Pistons those are
the ONES i. Remember she tried to Get Rip Hamilton Chauncey,
Bill chauncey, Billups Ben Walla, wallace and then there was
another Wall. Wallace, YES i love those. Teams and then
who's the alien looking?
Speaker 7 (01:35:37):
Dudes?
Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
Prince? Yeah are you hold? On are you?
Speaker 6 (01:35:41):
IMPRESSED i just like named that whole, Roster.
Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
But I'M i was kind of impressed THAT i remembered it.
Too but, like that was a cool. Team, yeah one.
Speaker 3 (01:35:50):
Of them they won. One, YEAH i like those.
Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
TEAMS i, LIKE i LOVE i don't know. Why i've
always had a soft spot For, Detroit. America maybe it's
because it's the auto auto. Industry my my dad associated with.
Cars very.
Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
Complex all, right we'll save that for the next.
Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
Episode grew up A chevy Kid, SUBURBAN, Gm, CHRYST Gm.
Cadillac we Were chevy people have A mustang. THOUGH i
was always a huge fan of the Old. Mustang you would,
Also i'm a huge. VAN i liked the Old vets. Too,
YEAH i like the Old. CHEVELLS i liked the Old.
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NOVAS i WAS i like the old fifty, five like
step side short bed. Trucks uh it was fifty five
when they had the was that? Teeth then they were?
Teethy they were like the Bel. AIRS i used to
like the fifty Seven belair with the, wings but also
like the fifty five because they're a little shorter and
they had the. Teeth they were a little more. Sporty
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LOVE i. WAS i was a chevy kid That, trent
but then it became just a you, KNOW i like for.
COLLECTIBLES i like Old american.
Speaker 6 (01:37:02):
Cars, yeah built, really.
Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
BUT i LIKED i like them hot rotted. OUT i
wouldn't be an original. GUY i put a little a
little Like i'd slam it a. Little maybe not slam a,
little But i'd make it like fucking. Badass those are sick.
Trucks my first truck was like a sixty. Five it
was my brothers and THEN i had it for a little.
While it was a sixty Five ford pickup short, bed
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which was bad. Ass it had the Old mustang bucket.
Seats it was like the biggest piece of shit in the.
World three on the, tree so it was like right.
HERE i used to have to put phone phone books
on BECAUSE i was too short.
Speaker 3 (01:37:40):
To see over the.
Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Wheel So jack has no seatbelts and it was. Okay
it was like, legal it's.
Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
Tight you.
Speaker 6 (01:37:47):
KNOW i was always fun with like or interesting with
like Those american, cars Like mercury is owned By ford's
at the same. Company, yeah and then have some of
the Models chrysler's the same and then have some of
the models that just be these same exact cars with
a different, brand and That Ford mustang had A mercury
like absolute like mimic, Car Mercury. Cougar, yeah picked, up
but it was exactly the same.
Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
Car that's.
Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
Exactly but they were they were, like, yeah they, WERE
i remember The.
Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
Cougars, yeah just so you.
Speaker 6 (01:38:10):
Know an update on the group chat is blowing up
about our conversation earlier about who our top three most
famous guests, are AND i really seems to think That
Rich ornberger is Thoughts, Richberger, yeah very Big rich From
San Diego.
Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
RADIO i mean HE'S i bet, you, yeah he's up
top top. Three, Okay so what.
Speaker 8 (01:38:32):
You're saying is That ray and both brought The Stanley
cup To boston back in two thousand and, one and
all of a, Sudden Boston sports got popping. Off he
just brought The Stanley cup back To boston.
Speaker 7 (01:38:44):
Again does that mean?
Speaker 3 (01:38:46):
Something? Here doesn't mean?
Speaker 8 (01:38:47):
SOMETHING i don't, know But i'm loving.
Speaker 7 (01:38:50):
It great, day.
Speaker 8 (01:38:51):
GENTLEMEN.
Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
I don't want to put that out, there but it's out.
Speaker 6 (01:38:56):
THERE i don't Think marshawn can give do the same
Thing borg did because he's already won A cup In.
Boston that's a little, weird and The Florida panthers are
a bit of a rival now in the same conference
THAT i don't think it would be the. Same you
could do this because this guy's. Pitching Brad marsham takes
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his cup In boston the Day, no he hasn't, yet
but day, no, no, no, no they're just by the way
if anyone.
Speaker 3 (01:39:26):
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