Ep. 50: Dylan Gossett - Racing to Records

This week Reid and Dan host international superstar, Dylan Gossett, out in God’s Country. Dylan dives in with one of our most passionate “What Ya Mad At's” in regards to college football. They dive in on the swift life swap that’s occurred for Dylan over the last 18 months and how he’s learned to navigate his new normal  of touring, music full time, and everything in between. Dylan plays “Coal” and another tune that you don’t want to miss!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
What's up. You're off in God's Country.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
With Read and Dan is Well, you didn't have to
take up that.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Far also known as the Brother's Hunt. When we take
a weekly drive to the intersection of country music and
great two things they go together, like the Texas and
m Aggie's and the Twelfth Man.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Or stink Bugs in the South and Waterboarding brought to you.
It's a by Meat Eater and iHeart podcasts.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Those are go together, but some I guess you, they
go together for you.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
They have together for me. Man.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Man, we had a guy on today that we didn't
know much about and turns out he's.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Freaking awesome yep, and a real life singer.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
He's uh, he's really good at what he does. Mister
Dylan Gossip is out in God's Country with us from As.
He's a Texan.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Tall drink water, tall, drink of water. He's a hot
country artist.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
No he's not. I mean he is, but he's a
hot country artist. That's two different things, gotcha. There's no
common between the hot and the word country. I wanna
keep calling him hot. I'm sure, I'm sure I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
He's just sold out the rhymen Man he's he's crushing it.
He's uh, he's in the middle of his grind, going
all over the world playing his songs and shows and
kind of does everything the way he feels like he
needs to do him. It's kind of refreshing journey and
story to hear song Cole up, he's got he just
released some more music. Tearing it up, tearing it up.

(01:47):
You're tearing it up. Hopefully you're tearing up the buttons
while you're listening to our podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
I was wondering, how are you going to get there?

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Hey, go follow us, go subscribe, go uht to the podcast,
watch the video TikTok.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, and while you're on Meeter, check out some of
the other podcasts in the video. Uh, you know, platforms
and stuff that got going on. There's a lot of
different stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
If if you're Morning to White Tell, there's the Wire
to Hunt podcast with Mark Kenyon, Yeah, This Country Live, Yeah,
as well as the Media all.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
That stuff as well as yeah, the Media podcast. Will
go check them all out, but be sure to check
ours out first and then go check everybody else's out. Uh,
love y'all, Thank y'all, appreciate you say y'all. We have

(02:43):
just sold out the rhym And AUDITORIUMKA the Mother Church
and Nashville sold it out. That's a big deal in Nashville.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
He's a fishing harmonica guitar playing Texan National Park exploring,
which is I can't wait to talk about that international
tour in Hot Country Artists to watch which I got
a question, did you say, did you put hot?

Speaker 2 (03:05):
I think it's hot country.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
I just know I like saying he's a hot country artists.
I think you can only get that. I think they
only give that to people who are actually like hot, right,
which they should give it to your tour manager should
He's got He's like he's like a little rally green
back there.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I know, I know he's like Smiley green look back
the smile.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Sorry, we only make fun if we like you. Man,
we don't even know you, but we like you. Uh,
mister Dylan Gossips in God's Country, In.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
God's Gossips Country.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Gossips Country, where came in with the deer the rack?
Deep South? Is that your hat?

Speaker 3 (03:49):
No?

Speaker 4 (03:49):
No, this is this is someone off Instagram or something
like that. Yeah, some Southern company that my brother is
always the one. He'll come in like because lots of
times I don't I don't see the d or whatever
it is, and he always sees him. So he'll just
bring like a whole box of like new hats, like
every time we have a break on tour. Oh somebody
saying you have Yeah, just always swear and put on
Instagram or tag him or something like that.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
That's cool. Uh what is So you've got a brother
apparently he works with you.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, he's he's our lead guitar player. He can go to.
He's just even since we've been like he's always been
a better guitar player than me. But ever since this tour,
like it has been night and like the dude can
go now.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
You ANDRAE can identify with that as well as what
because he has a brother that's always been a better
guitar player than him as well.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, I've heard about this, but I've also been like
helped be like a path success for both of our
for who for for you, been the path for me
for you and for me's got just like doing this
his brother exactly, his brother on the back.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
He's older, knew he was.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, I'm just sure if we were here we would
both Thank you very much, both of you the trail
for I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
It's a hard job.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
We got to somebody's gonna do it, no doubt. What
part of Texas are you from?

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Austin's like North Austin area.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Sorry about the game.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
I'm an aggie. Oh okay there, yeah, I'm horns down.
I was. I was rooting for the Dogs and we
were in Athens at the time.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
So we uh we're at the first bar. Were as
like a pool hole, which there's not a single pool
table in that entire city that's flat and level. But uh,
side note, but we were, Yeah, we were at some
kind of bar wherever it was. And the amount of
just like barking that goes on in that town, everybody
the whole game kickoff, doesn't matter, barking, just dogs barking.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, it's good for them, like Georgia fans Georgia.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yeah, just everyone's barking.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Literally barking like not like no marking it.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
And like you might think I'm exaggerating, I'm not. You
see someone on the road, they seeking a little bit.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
It's just like yeah, yeah, yeah, Georgia's good for them.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Though. I love it.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Have you always been an Aggie fan.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Dude. It's funny.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
I kind of grew up like in Austin, like when
I was like real little my parents, like you know,
I may have even gone to like one or two Longhorn
games boring games, but uh talks, mad.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Bro, just get them because like they think that this
year that they're like you, here's the arch manning not
even Quinn you.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Or here's the issue? Is that like and this is
what this is what grants my gears as like an
A and N fan like for the past decade?

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Is this an intro? Hes intro? What' you're mad at?
Right then? When he said grounds my gears?

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Oh yeah maybe yeah, we'll do it.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
We'll do it half stuff.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Okay, I like that.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Just give gotcha?

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Oh god, sounds so bad. Woa, let's do it, ding gossips?
How what man?

Speaker 2 (06:49):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (06:50):
What I can't?

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Oh you're right?

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Oh yeah, wach mad.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Just tell us, like it is what matter?

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (07:00):
You in lost Kids might be a boss man or
neighbors cat.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Just tell us what you met that yeahl.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah, let's just let's just let's just let's get to
his text Longhorns. I didn't I didn't have it on
my heart this morning, because I don't think you did.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
You didn't even know you did.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
You had because it was a perfect segue into our segment.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Man, And like, you don't really catch me cheering much
for Georgia because I don't, but this is the one time,
just because dude, they needed a little humble pie this
year so far?

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Who did Longhorns?

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, And it's like being right number one's
for the past decade they've been horrible and it's like
they finally joined the SEC. They do have a good squad,
they got they got great guys.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Sarkisian can coach man.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah good. I'm not a huge fan of them, but whatever,
I'm not a huge fan of a lot of coaches,
but I.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Recognize good coaches. Yeah, I recognize a dude that can
take a squad.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
You saw what happened respect to Herman versus and like
strong Yeah so but yeah, dude, it's like to win
the SEC. I wish they joined like five years ago,
just so they at.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Least got a little bit of just getting before what
a m and what Mississi State has been dealing with
for mister States been dealing with.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
And then it's like, dude, like A and M has
had like a really good run these pasting five years,
like our appalation state year, which was tough, but and
then it's like, yeah, I just wish we could have
whooped them for five years because now it's gonna be
a great game. We played last last game of the
season game in Kyle Field, and it's like, oh man,
that's gonna be I mean that that stadium is going
to be rocking. Yeah, Like that's a stadium that can go.

(08:33):
So I'm home of the.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Twelfth Man, right, I know. Yeah, there's been a good
time to be an A and M fan. It has
been across the board. Yeah, Like I enjoyed pulling for
him during the final or was it final foward?

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Did they get they went to No, it was was it?
It might have been round A thirty two or sweet sixteen,
but they were playing they didn't get Scott who we want?

Speaker 2 (08:53):
It was there.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
It was we were in Washington and it was played
a show. It was a late game. We're playing the
number one or number two? See you Like it might
have been like I don't remem if it was Kentucky.
It was somebody really.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Really solid and they're playing I think I think might
have been my wat Kentucky fans and the whole band.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Like we're outside the Washington Monument, but it's in overtime,
like and I'm not letting anybody move because I'm very
like like if we're if something good happening, don't move right,
Like my hat's stand on my knee, my hands here.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, superstitious.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah, and I tried not to be sometimes I like
a m sports just changes me and do. Yeah, we're
watching this game and we're not going. We're not going,
we're not going. And what do you know, Like we
come back like down ten with like a minute three
top of the key buzzer beater overtime. I get comfortable.
I'm like, we're playing good, We're.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Hot, I can move.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
I'm going to bring the phone to the monument. Let's
go get our picture or whatever. We lose the game.
I never forget myself. I just didn't.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
You just stayed in the same I know you're just
not moved for.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
But yeah, I mean we have a whole squad returning.
Like Henry call me. He's a huge country fan and
he's he's a cool guy and he's on the team,
Wade Taylor. We got a bunch of guys returning.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Taylor coach is cool too, Yeah yeah, and he's from
Virginia Tech.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
He's just a good culture guy.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, he's a dog enough about and talk more about.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Texas, Yeah yeah, dude, but yeah, I just I just don't.
It's the fan base too. You go to like a
Texas game and you're like a.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Lot like Tennessee fans. Man, Like I feel like that
because we're from Tennessee. Yeah, but I can't stay in Tennessee. Yeah,
like I kind of pull even though I put money
on them. I did win some money on the Alabama
game because I put money on Tennesse to be at BBAMA.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
But like I took over and lost.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
I went to I went to UT Knoxville, and I
wore Missippi State Jersey to every home game just because
I wanted to watch football. But like I just and
IM my best friends, like they listened this podcast and
like they're all Tennessee fans, but they know I can't
stand their Tennessee fandom. Yeah, you know, it just drives
me crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
And they're good this year.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah, well maybe I don't know, right.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Same thing with Texas.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
It's kind of like are you or are you Tennessee's relatively.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Tennessee started off the season looking like the best team
in the country, and they went and played the Old Mission.
It was a weird and someone else they played tight
er something the Arkansas. Arkansas beat them. It's like, what
the heck?

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, it's kind of weird. Bandy beat Alabama the same week.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yeah, it's it's kind of been a weird upset year. Yeah,
but yeah, what was it.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I've seen horns down by the way fan base.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
It's I'm just like dogging as much like can uh.
It's like do you always go and ask everyone? Ninety
people in that stadium is like, where'd you go to school?
Not Texas? Yeah, really there's no like there's no student body.
It feels like that is at these just easy.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
It's an easy team to pool for.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah, and it's also I get it, like you're in
the middle of a city, so it's like it's like
what the city has to cheer for because Austin doesn't
have any professional sports other than it's Austin f C
New But yeah, Texas, like it's just been that thing
for Austin.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
And it's becoming like McConaughey's on the sidelines, Rogan's on
the side.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Kind of wears with this thing right here.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah, it's like it feels like it's like you're not
a coordinators, like a coach, so bad. I love mathon
Conye as an actor and stuff, but like when he's
not acting, I'm always like, dude, just get quick.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
This podcast.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Does he But I was like, dude, like I don't know,
he may even Yeah, it's like he's got like a flip,
like a switch like doesn't turn off, and like, dude,
maybe that helps him with acting. It's like a full
method team. But it sounds like he's like the coolest
guy at all times.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
He's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, totally Yeah, what is that thing? I haven't seen
him do.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
He goes on like the players.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
If you watch a Texas game, I'm telling on the sideline,
you'll see him.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
He'll be like I feel like I feel like it's
tapping into like cringe land a little bit. Now. I
think it's starts. Like at one time it felt kind
of like this guy's on our team, but knowing that
he's a literal actor, it's.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Like that's maybe that's the hard part where it's like,
you know this, I don't know if this guy's I
don't know. I'm surely I think he's like right or
died for that team.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
But I feel like you can only wear the get
up to one game like where the check do the
thing one time, let people get pumped about it, and
then just throw on like a Texas hoodie and and
it's weird.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
To calm down, what's weird?

Speaker 1 (13:18):
But if you want to come to this podcast, totally
cool keeping keep wearing those weird games.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
But yes, yeah, I guess that's my love that. I'm
glad we didn't give him that option.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, we did before violence and I love Uh, dude,
I'm glad this is gonna be a weird one. I'm glad.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Then let me get min out of the way.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Okay, yeah, because ours is probably gonna get into something.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
I'm mad at stink bugs, dude. I got so many
State bugs in my house. I don't know where they're
coming from, the depths of hells where they You know?
What I honestly felt good about was that we went
to the beach a couple of weeks go and I
loaded like eight beach chares in the back of my
car and drove them all the way to the beach,
spent the night. The next day we're taking all his beach,

(14:06):
took a whole herd. And I saw him getting out
of there, and I was like, oh, yeah, enjoy the
salt sandwich because you're in a new place now, baby,
Call all your friends come get out of my house. Dude, dude,
I hate sneak bugs. Man. I feel that there's no
good way to eradicate. You know you have you know
my you know my newest torture method. It's getting a
paper towel.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Easier steak bus. I'm just saying we got stink. But
I'm just it's twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
If you're offended by me to a steep bug.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
I'm putting a lighter to a spoon steak bug.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
And I no a lot of spoons, so I throw
I throw a paper towel on them and I get
him and then I wrap him up and then I
wet the paper towel it's water. I want him to
die in that. I want him to dilate that and
send a text to all his friends letting them know, hey, man,
this Dan is we got serious about killing stink bugs.
Maybe let's find another home to live.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
It should use them as an example what I'm saying.
Put them up somewhere in the house.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
I thought something, but they stayed bro I would.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
They stink.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
You can't touch them.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Where are you at? No glad, I'm glad.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
I'm glad. I spent the day on the farm yesterday
in West Tennessee. And I'm glad at my dad instilling
in me the love of the outdoors when I was little.
That's a big one.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
I know.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
It's like kind of this is like a jokey segment, but.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Like, why do you because yesterday, because.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I just like driving there yesterday. I've been it's been hustling, bustle.
It's been like grinding this year. And I've got two
kids under two. Dan's got a bunch of kids under
three or four or five whatever, and like it's just
it's we're super busy. It's NonStop. We're writing, we're playing shows,
we're we're traveling all this stuff, and more than I

(15:53):
think any time in the past few years. Yesterday, when
there's like this town that you're drive into and you
come around this corner, it's only an hour and a half.
But like when you come down this hill.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
You're at first off it goes to forty yeah better,
so literally slow down. It's a speed trap and then
it puts you in kind of like a slower state.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Of ex more than any time I think maybe ever
yesterday when I hit that heel going down into that
town and then the farm is just probably twenty minutes
on the other side, fifteen minutes, dude, It's like just
everything was like and it was like that until I
hit that hill coming back up, coming back home.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
It was like, what's for dinner? When are you gonna
be home?

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, the kids and the diapers picked up.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Don't forget you have a podcasts more and the next
day and you gotta write songs.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
But I had and this is what I was thinking,
Like I had no clue when I was young, when
I was I mean five to eighteen years old, when
we lived closer to the farm and then moved to Nashville,
I was I mean, I was there all the time.
I had no clue the foundation that was land for
the older me. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I'm so thankful, so glad that that like without knowing

(17:08):
it that place and the love of that place when
I was little and going there and spending so much
time there and hunting deer there and catching fish there
and and grilling steaks and hot dogs over open fires.
Like I'm so glad that that made that place special
in a place for like solace for me. Now, yeah,
you know, does that make sense?

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Yeah? For me.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Man, It's like I was telling Dad this, I might
have been a week ago, but we write so much.
I don't know if you're familiar with like how commercial
songwriters exist, but we literally drive in every day and
have appointments. Maybe it's with you, maybe it's with someone else,
maybe it's the two of us together with another songwriter
or an artist or whatever. We write. We right now

(17:51):
we're writing basically four times a week, not necessarily always together,
but always right you know, it's our job.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
And dog, you're talking about months of that. At months,
I mean, I'm knowing years, but fifteen years, no, I know,
But it's not. We're not writing four days week every week.
I'm just saying, like, when you're on the grind and
you're doing it Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, boom boom, boom boom,
Boom and your podcast in the morning, like the just
the Creative Tank.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Man.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
I think that's important to talk about because in no way,
shape or format are we comparing what we do to
like rooven houses. You know what I mean. It's a
much more different grind job, but what it does to
what I what I feel like we do. And you're
in the same boat, dude. You're grinding right now, you're
writing songs, you're creative. You know how this goes.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
It.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
It's almost like personally, I feel like I can swing
a hammer as many days in a row that I
need to your hammer. But I do feel like there's
like a limit on creativity, and when it's gone, it
feels like it's gone, you know what I'm saying. And
so having that refuge in that place to kind of

(19:01):
bring it back. What I was getting at was telling
Dad that occasionally I'll be in a co write and
we'll be in the middle of a line, or we'll
be stuck somewhere and I'll just be my brain will
just be running, Well what rhymes with that? Well? What
are we trying to say? What's the whole point of
this song? What is the hook? Have we set the hook? Correctly.
Eventually they will just be like a flash image of

(19:26):
outdoors and then I'll be like, I'll go right back
to it and whether it's The example I used with
him was there's a dry creek bed in this place
that we hunt, and occasionally in my mind while I'm thinking,
I'll just see an image of the dry creek bed
and the cedars incasing it and crossing that dry creek bed,
and for in like an instant, it's like a wave.

(19:47):
And maybe that's like my own way of kind of
self medicating to reset my brain to get somewhere creative,
you know what I mean, like subconscious because I'm not
thinking to do that. I just see the portrait and
then I feel a little bit rejuvene at it, at
least enough to make it through the day. It also
could be the coffee.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
But you know something, no, I fully agree. I my
my grandpa before we passed, got this like like almost
like kind of like a sidewy side like not like
a it's like almost like a mobile home type thing
out on like this place called like the Cannon out
in Texas, and it do we just like that whole
thing like growing up was just we go, we had
no water, so it's just like a dry lake house

(20:29):
and uh, dude, it's so pretty out there and like
there's there's no service, there's no like lights, there's no
city nearby, and uh, we would just go out there
and we would start building, Like we built the deck
and we built all this like wrap around like my
grandpa was in a wheelchair, so we had to build
these ramps and build on extra portions of the house.
It's like now it's like all the work's done and
now there's water at times and we can just enjoy it.

(20:49):
And that's always like dude, and we have like every
easter is like a Crawfords boiler.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
You still got it.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Yeah, we still do. So my my mom and her sister.
It's theirs and we'll just keep pass it down. It's
just such a fun place that we just go and
we just relax. And I shot Sony videos out there too.
That's just home. If you like look up your YouTube,
like that's that's like us on the back porch. So
like that's Uh, we do so much out there, and

(21:14):
I think that you can hear like in a lot
of the music that I write too, is just like
I'm a very uh visual writer, and like I find
like I write about trees way too much like the
under the big Oak. Yeah, I just I love it.
And uhud I I see where you are coming from.
It's like a huge not even like a motivation thing,
but it's like a very big like somebinge can always

(21:36):
fall back on or like reset to, which helps a lot.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
So, yeah, how do you because like here in the
middle of your grind right like like this was this
is all new to you?

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Right yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:47):
But you and but you're thrust into like the Nashville
scene of it. So like coming from Texas, Austin a
kid just playing music, growing up to throwing into a
record deal and and radio promo and these shows like
what how do you find your reset? What's your what's
you're like? If you're an iPhone sixteen because you're you know,
you look like if on sixteen, he's more like a twelve.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
I got like a fourteen or something.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, what's it like?

Speaker 2 (22:12):
What do you?

Speaker 1 (22:13):
How do you plug in? How do you how do
you recharge?

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (22:15):
My wife is massive like helping me with.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
That shout out.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Yeah, she's on the road with me as much as possible,
Like she's on the road with me right now. She's
just in the B and B. So uh, that's massive. Like, dude,
I'll overthink things all the time.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
You don't say yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
It's like, especially when I'm at home, when I'm like
sitting and it's like quiet, sometimes that's when I really
start to overthink. I'm like everything's going wrong something like that,
and it's just not ud Like, we'll just go outside.
We'll just get some son, Like that's what we do
all the time, do iake, I'll take I'll take the
shirt off, lay down on the patio and just say
you will get some and dude, that will reset you,

(22:54):
Like just ten minutes out there. You'll come back in
and be like I'm way better. I like it, dude.
That's that's what we always do. If you want to
go way outside, yepe.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Take our shirts off and louds.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
It changes like my whole mindset. Just like go and
get some sun, come back in like cool.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
That's interesting. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
I don't know if I've ever heard of him and.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
D dude and that as a reset. That's pretty smart.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Yeah, Vitamin d well dude, like she like whenever, Like
she's also the personally she can go outside and sleep,
Like she can go lay on concrete in Texas at
noon and fall asleep. So like that's like that's her
happy places the sun like we do. She can sleep
with just in a glasshouse, that would be her heaven
just because like she just curtains. She just loves sunlight

(23:38):
and uh yeah dude, it does. It helps.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
That's cool.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
I'll say this, man, there ain't nothing like a like
if you're like hammock sleeping or like trampoline sleeping and
just like happened to fall asleep and then wake up
from an hour and a half and a half in
the outdoors, Bro, you are you wake up feeling like
a brand of man? Yeah you're from did you did

(24:09):
you grow up fishing and like like hanging out on
the lake?

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Ye, hiking and stuff. Yeah, hiking and fishing. We didn't
do too much hiking around there, just because it's just
not too much to do.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
A lot of walking.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Yeah, like Texas fast like cedars and like they're like
it's not the frettest. There are some in Texas, but
like not really where we were at. But yeah, I
mean we would throw a bobbering and just hang out
that was kind of like our fishing, like we never
even really until maybe recently, used like Lewis or crank
bait or something like that. But it was more like
get some rice crispies with some like some big red

(24:40):
put it in the ball, try to get some car
just for fun. That just bobber fishing. That was always
the most fun. But like go down to like we
have to drive to water even though we were like
on the lake. Technically we have to drive because we
were so dry. But yeah, it's kind of kind of
hanging out playing a lot of sports.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Where did uh what sports you play?

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Basketball? Football?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, what's your was? Like what do you jam up at?

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Like basketball?

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Okay, yeah you got that build, Yeah you got the
basketball build.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
I was a shooting guard. My dad was a basketball coach.
Like that's how we kind of grew up, like you
were saying, like y'all' dad like really instilled outdoors like
minded as well. But it was also like in the gym,
like I was like shooting and playing so local high
school or what yeah yeah, oh yeah, I mean I
was never great. Uh you know, I'm one of those
guys that I think like if I if I go
play pick up, I'm like better than others. But I

(25:32):
was never like I'm gonna go college ball or something
like that.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah, but our dad was. I was talking about our
dad yesterday. It was sports. He was like the guy
like I can remember him being like, why did you
swing at that chest style fastball? And I'd be like eight, Yeah,
I started earlier. Yeah, absolutely, And I was thinking. I
was like, oh, I was older than that, And then

(25:55):
I think about the field we played on. I'm like, no,
that was eight nine year olds on that field.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
Like he.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
He was always he always helped with sports, but he
it was pretty serious to him as far as like
being disciplined and like swinging at good pitches and and
for me personally, not for really, but like hitting the
ball far.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
You know, I just gapped it. I couldn't hit it far,
but I could. I could put it somewhere and run forever.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
You were a quick game. You were a quick game.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
I stole bases my way around the diamonds.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
I was never to we'll play like slow pitch softball
and like, don't you don't strike out? I tried not to.
So here's my thing, here's my thing.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
I don't know if we can be friends.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Playing slow pitch, I'm always like because I see the
ball coming in and I'm a swing as far as
I can and I'm swinging try and like i mean
if I like choke up and I'm like, let me
just go touch the ball, and like I'll do it.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I'm like, what's fun of that?

Speaker 4 (26:56):
My thing is like that's why I like, dude, when
I see people walking, Like, if the ball's out here
I'm swinging at.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Is worse than strike.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
We'll play pictures too, and again, I'm not a good
baseball player at all, but I feel like I'm athletic
enough to see ball hit ball type deal sory. But
some of these pictures that really take it serious. They
know I'm going to swing at dirt, so dude, I'm
like hacking at it like it's a sword. Sometimes I'm like,
I'm not here to walk the first base, so that's
what they'll get. And I'm I'm like swinging three sixties.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
To your point, Dan and daln't tell me if this
is true for you to like it does feel like, Yes,
my dad was very serious and he coached. He coached
baseball like that's coming up and stuff. I do feel
like with I don't even know if he was if
he was doing this, but like he didn't go at

(27:47):
nothing back then and didn't let us go at anything
just half ass. Like it was like, if you're gonna
do something, be the best at it. Yeah, for sure,
be the best home run hitter, be the best base
to be the best you know, uh, whatever you're doing,
like put enough work into it and figure out how
to do it at the highest level you can possibly
do it. And I still feel like I learned those

(28:10):
lessons from him then and trying to put those into
practice now.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, I can even like reflect back sometimes and be like, okay,
do I is my heart in this? Because for baseball,
for me, I felt like my heart was in it
some football too at times, but I think a lot
of that was kind of going through the motions. But man,
I loved Like when I think back on sports, I
missed baseball. I don't really miss football.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I miss like what was so
big for me too, was like just like the camaraderie too,
having the dudes in the locker room and like that.
That's kind of like where my love of football was again,
Like I feel like safety and receiver. But again, like
y'all can tell about the build, I wasn't really do
we play in Central Texas too, Like we're playing serious
down there, Like dude, we were playing like Garrett Wilson

(28:57):
and like dudes like that. It was like, hey, look
different levels.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
I'm not I'm not.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah, so uh yeah, basketball is kind of the same
deal for me, Like I'm miss basketball when I'm miss football.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
For sure. Yeah. I think band on a team and
having that locker room like rapport helps you travel with
the band.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Oh dude, it it. I mean I think a lot
of the dudes in our like in our band and crew,
like played sports, and I think like that it feels
like a lot same time, dude, it is definitely does.
I mean it feels like I've known these guys for
years and like our first headline show was this year,
Like our first show ever was this year. So it's
like it feels like I've known these guys for five

(29:39):
years and like you even like see, like are dude
in our band Colton, who's like the coolest looking dude.
He plays every instrument in the world, and then like
you found out that he's like a state tennis player
and if you see this guy, you're like, he's got
like a mullet, he's got the stash like and he
just looks just like he's been only done music his
whole life. But it's like now he's like one state
and tennis and stuff like that. It's like, yeah, everyone

(30:00):
one just kind of played a sports like kind of
grip through it. And it feels like it feels like
a team or like we're going to college, get on
this bus. It's cool, yeah, because it feels I mean
like we've known we've known.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
MLB players that have won World Series and and and
we're buddies with artists who have played stadiums and and
and Cowboy Stadium, the biggest shows in the world. And
it's like there there is a similarity feel. It's like
you're you're going to war man with these guys, either
whether it's on a baseball field, whether it's in a stadium,
whether it's freaking and the sold out rhymen that you're

(30:32):
that you're doing like you're you're trying to achieve your
You're going out there for something bigger than yourself.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Oh exactly, you win together and lose together totally. Man
Like the same thing. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Uh you got something.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah. I was just curious when you started, when you
started playing, Like when did you feel like music coming in.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Like would be a part of your life. Yeah, I
mean early, I mean it.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Was pretty I was always singing, Like I was always
just singing whatever, even as a little kid, just singing,
sing and singing. We used to have like toys that
were like old little guitars and stuff that we love
to just like bang on. And then it came between
like it was like fifth sixth grade, I got my
first guitar, started really singing found like Ed Sheering around
that time, like in middle school, and I was like,
this is so different.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
This is so cool.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
I'm twenty five, right, yeah, I thought about it young
and so yeah, like found Ed Sheering, I was like,
this is awesome and started listening like John Man and
started like really finding songwriters, which was huge. And I
mean we grew up like my parents brought us up
on like Eagles, Boston, like georget Like it's a lot
of like old good music and yeah, really good. There's
always a love of music instilled in me. And then

(31:42):
they'd like some choir in middle school and stuff like that.
I was like, I can sing. I like singing, like
and then I started really writing songs, probably like high
school and then college is when I was like, man,
this is the dream. Like I was a pretty realistic person,
like which like now I realized I wasn't being realistic
like realistic now it was like you can do anything

(32:03):
like in today's day and age. But I was like,
I'm not gonna be a musician. I'm not going to
be a singer. Like let's just get to like, let's work.
So I was a sport management major and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
But yeah, gig.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
But yeah, I mean it wasn't really until I mean,
like me and my I was talking to my wife
and I was seeing things like, you know, like White
Floors or Sam Barber and like these guys that are
on social media kind of making a real career out
of music.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
And I was like, man, I'm not like an influencer,
Like I'm not a TikTok, I'm not a social media
guy at all. But I was like, maybe if I
just post a couple of videos or something, something can
kind of happen.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
I was like, I'm not gonna put too much thought
into it. I don't care if people think about me.
I'm just gonna do it. Love that, and it kind
of started just happening, and I was like.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
And then you had to start caring about it.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
Yeah, And I always cared about like the songs that
I wrote, Like I when I had zero fans other
than my family, because we would always go to lake
House and just play songs. Like we would just go
out there. We would play all night long. Me and.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
What gets them?

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Oh man, I mean, ain't no sunshine actually was always
a good one.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
We would always sing and play. Due would always play
a lot of EDG cheering. We'd play a lot of
like Mumford and Sons. We'd play My brother is always
the best, like classic country would always give him like
the Alan Jackson and George stuff like that, like some Tyler, Yeah,
a little bit of everything. Yeah, so yeah, I mean

(33:28):
the love of music. Yeah, he didn't name anybody that
was bad, right then, that's.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Not like what what just you and your brother play
was like a whole fan.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
I mean, I mean me and my brother would play,
my cousin Philip play and sing, but everyone's singing along.
And then we would always that's where like we would
bring our originals that we wrote. So that's what I
was kind of getting to, was like I would be
writing songs as if I was writing it for my job.
Like that's how like serious I took it because I
was like, man, I want to knock this song out,
Like I wrote Cole like three years ago, like way

(33:56):
before this music stuff, just because I cared so much
about trying to write a good song for me and
my family. And then I'll go and they'd be I
mean there are biggest fans, but they're also a harshest critic. Wow,
they'll let you know you're like doubt. And I remember
playing Cole and they were like, you got to get
that out. I was like, yeah, I don't know, but
can you give us.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
A little bit of it?

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, it's standard now that's where it's out.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
I remember hearing this song before ever knowing who you were.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Just like that's like, which which is cool when you
think about a song, man, Like a song can go
to work for you, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Like it's one of those things too where you're like
we always kind of I really wanted to make sure
that this song wasn't bigger than like what we want
to do in the future too, so like how to
build it off of it rather than being like it's
Cole And then it's kind of like like the live
show is always the biggest thing.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
But wait, I want to understand what you're talking about,
right that you always wanted to say that again?

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Oah, so sorry, So yeah that probably makes any sense.
So like you don't want to be bigger than so no, no,
So I I really tried to not This is gonna
sound strange.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Like a lot of people, it already sounds strange.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
I was like, like, especially like when I first started
getting the team and stuffy like you should be posting
coal a lot more or whatever. I was like, I'm
not going to do it.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Oh, I was like no, because I'm not. Just yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
I was like I want to.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
I was like, I feel like if we do that, like, yeah,
we definitely will get a lot more coal going. I
was like, but I was like, then we might get
kind of stuck. And I was like, I was like,
I have a lot of the songs that I really
love to put in the forefront, and I think we
did it in a good way, and I'm kind of
glad the way we did.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
It smart, it makes sense. Thanks for cleaning that up.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
I was curious.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
I remember Boo, I just told me said Duran was
on hold solo.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Can you pull on me?

Speaker 5 (35:47):
Tooth creek, I mean asked to keep it with me,
took under all the man, your votes, echoing tree and

(36:10):
through your unfavored weather and wholes in these boots, still
covering it in talk like I'm still pretty into the
heaven and hoping for themself.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Hope only get.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
Some man so far, Man, this game alives heavy on
my heart.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Man, love is talk, loneliness, tries. It's hard.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
I carried out everywhere I go, they say, Prince Sir
may stpands out ahead on my still cold.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
I get it that, bro, I get why people love you.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Man.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
They just a there is a.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
There's a smoothness to the tone.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
But there's also like a struggle thing in there, like
a like a you can relate to that well.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
I feel like the lyric is really what pushes that too,
is it pushes the angst a little bit, But the
vocal is really really solid. Yeah, thank you, I mean
really solid. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
The rasles from the morning a little bit probably worn.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Where did did you have that line?

Speaker 4 (37:29):
So I, dude, I've I found video, and I kind
of remember writing it differently than I actually did, because
I remember kind of being like I had that line,
and then I kind of wrote the song around around it.
But then I was looking at videos the other day
of like old snapchat memories and like my wife recording
me like in our apartment, and uh, I actually kind
of started with the very first line of I remember

(37:50):
what you told me said drinking was unholy, So Lord,
will you pull me to the creek? I That was
like the first line. And then that song was probably
written in like twenty minutes. It was just one of
those that was just like got it. It was it's
going and yeah that was I mean, that was way
before all the music stuff. I was just in the
apartment about to go get a couple of drinks with
some friends and I was like, hold on, I have

(38:12):
like a melody in my head. I just got to
get out, wrote it left, and then yeah, I didn't
think about the song for a little while. It's funny, like, dude,
I posted that song like before it really like kind
of blew up and exploded. Like I posted that song
and it didn't really do anything. I posted like a
different version of course, of that song, and no one
paid attention, no one carried and I was like, all right,

(38:32):
it's fine, but I really believed in the songs. I
think it's a pretty good one. And then I just
posted it again a little later, So I guess that's
like advice.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
For that one too. It took off the second time
and had the.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
Same thing with like another song, Like yeah, I feel
like that might be like good advice for someone that's
trying to do it, Like if you really believe in
a song, like just put more eyes on its, Like
if it didn't worth the first time, you still believe
in this, dude again, keep doing.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
What were you doing work wise when you were doing
this stuff?

Speaker 4 (38:59):
So I was working in operations at the F one
Racetrack in Austin. Uh sick, So it sounds sick like
it was fun. Yeah, So it just so it was.
It was a really really cool job when it was cool,
but then there's times where it was like the biggest
grind due like you're working and yeah, I'm in operation,

(39:20):
so we're dealing with like like power porta potties, fence, logistics, transportation,
like we're dealing.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
With like okay stuff, So you're working for the track
not necessarily correct.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Yeah, I'm not working for them. I'm not working Formula one.
So like we're working all year for this race that's
like two hours long and then so cooler it goes.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
My year, Wow started again.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Now Like obviously we do things like Moto GP and
NASCAR and there's so many other events out there, but like,
I mean, it just happens past weekend when Georgia was
in town as well, Like it's that it was a
huge weekend in Austin, but yeah I did that. I
had some buddies out there that I still hang out with,
and uh it's uh that even felt kind of like
the sports team with those dudes out there, because like, dude,

(40:02):
you're especially f one week, you're living in an RV, yeah,
and you're working twenty hours a day and it's just
a grind and like putting fins up like three in
the morning.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
So at what point did you know, like, hey, man,
I'm making this switch. Yeah I think I'm doing I
think I don't think I'm making the jump.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
It's it's kind of funny, dude, we're so we're posting videos.
And again, some people knew I was saying, but not
a lot of people really did. And the first person
that came up and was like, dude, you can sing
was my buddy Jeremy. He was one of the shot
mechanics at the at the track, and I was like, dude,
what are you doing on Like He's like this big

(40:37):
burly dude, like tattoos on his knuckles, dude, And he's like,
what are you doing on TikTok? Jeremy, Like you know, yeah,
and he was like, dude, I love it, like so talented.
I was like, thank you, man. And then it kind
of like started spreading and but it was nothing like again,
I posted for a few months and like I was
just posting getting two hundred views or whatever it was.
And then yeah, it started kind of happening. And when

(40:58):
when that cold video went viral and went kind of crazy.
Within that like next couple hour window out my whole
phone was blowing up like on Instagram and all that
of labels and ran like people that fast. It was,
it was instant. This was the next twenty four hours
like DM and you oh yeah, saying Hey, I am
blah blah blah A and R for republic or or

(41:18):
an R for whatever.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
So who'd you buy it on? What did you? How
did you start making the connection?

Speaker 4 (41:23):
So I had no idea what to do.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
What I started doing.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
I was like, cool, dude, I'd love to hop on
a zoom with you. That's my thing. I was like,
I know nothing, And I went to my boss actually
and I was like, hey, I'm going to use a
week of PTO, like I can't come in. It was
luckily it was a slow time, like it wasn't. It
wasn't like f one racetime. Yeah, so which that job
was awesome. During slow time. We'd play a lot of FIFA,

(41:45):
but it you know, yeah, I was. I would set
up like a notebook and my wife would kind of
be in the room with me, and I'd be like cool.
From nine to five, I just have like zoom calls
with industry, these people who are saying like, how did
how did you vet them?

Speaker 1 (42:01):
How did you know?

Speaker 4 (42:02):
I've always been and my wife is really good. That's
why I always have her in the room too. I've
always been a really good judge of character, like pretty right,
like quickly, and I.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Was, dude, I can what do you think about read?
And what do you think about read?

Speaker 4 (42:13):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah, you know bad character?

Speaker 4 (42:15):
Yeah no, no, y'all are like I like, very early on,
I was not chasing it. Like that's the other thing,
like with the TikTok thing, Like I was never chasing
fame or to be a musician. I was literally looking
for an outlet because I was like I just got
to give it a run, like I just got to

(42:36):
try it. And like I was never like I was
so okay with turning down things that didn't fit with
my values for morals uh and and be and be
in the same level then to go then to go
up in the scene and lose everything that I could
care about whatever it is. So, I mean it was
I was so I was so blessed to be in

(42:57):
that spot because I mean there's a lot of musicians
that don't get that chance of like they kind of
do have to be like all right, look I don't
want to do this, but whatever, we'll do it. So
I was I was really lucky to have a song
like Cole kind of propel it of where I was like,
it's cool, like y'all can y'all can pitch me or
whatever it is. But if we don't align, then I'm
I'm not looking like I'm not looking for your check
or anything like that, Like I'm fine. Me and my

(43:18):
wife are doing okay with our jobs, and I'll do
this on the side or whatever. And it kind of
kept getting bigger and bigger and just kept growing and
getting crazy. And I found like my lawyer first, Matt,
and then he and I found a manager in Sam,
which I mean, I think it's all just God's work.
I mean, I think it's it's like how it all
kind of fell in together and yeah, that's supposed to happen. Yeah,

(43:39):
and yeah. And then we finally met uh with like
Big Loud here in Nashville, and I was like, I
do like those guys. And I met with yeah, uh
and then met with uh the two guys, Tyler and
Jake out of Mercury. They're like a branch of Republic,
and I remember talking to them. I was like, I
really would like to work with y'all. Like y'all and

(44:00):
stand where I'm coming from, and it had just it
just makes sense, like it felt good. And I was like,
I also would love to work with Big Loud I
don't know if that's possible. I don't really know, And
they made it happen, and it's kind of like the
cod thing and it's been a great relationship.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
We're commercial songwriters, like like we're we're chasing radio gets,
you know, and and so a lot of people and
a lot of the artists that we're buddies with or
deal with, like are are part of the machine a
little bit, like there's a way to do things, and
you can you can stray from the center on that song,
but but you kind of get brought back a little bit.
Like it's it's interesting to hear somebody talk like like

(44:47):
yourself that, like like you just said, like, hey man,
I really like Mercury and this branch of Republic, but
like I really like these guys can like I don't
know if that's a possibility. Can we make that happen?
Like you kind of do things out of the way
you feel like they should be done for you instead
of conforming to a bigger machine, you know what I'm saying,
Even like the the songs that you're that you've cut

(45:09):
in your basement, dude, just like just like you and
your buddies and you called your your violin player to.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Come in and do it.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
And I mean you you had you debuted on Billboard
with with just a record that you cut in your basement. Yeah,
like that doesn't happen. And it's cool to like hear
just a story of somebody just just just doing it.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
It's also a different I think what makes it interesting
to me and you is it's a different story than
we're used to.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Like we were the grind guys, our class of people
that not pay sorry, our like age group of folks
that came up did it a completely different way, you know.
And not to say we're archaic or a million years old,
but like it was gigging, you know, it was gigging
back then, and it was a word of mouth and

(45:58):
handing CDs out of.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
The back of your truck or car or whatever you had.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
And to hear somebody kind of just believe in something
they wrote, put it on the internet twice, Yeah it pop,
and then start the filtering process. I'm glad you have
a support system like your wife, oh yeah, to help
you through that.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
Yeah. And then my brother being in the band too,
giving family close and like a lot of these guys
in the band feel like family too, Like we all
look out for each other, like we really care about
each other, and it's like it feels just special, man
like it, you know. I don't know again, like I
just know from my experience, I don't know what it's
like torn with a bunch of guys you hate or
whatever it might be. Or you know, maybe you just

(46:38):
like but you don't really you know, care. That one
sounds miserable, Yeah, and like like we I mean, toys
not the easiest thing in the world, you know, And
it's like I'm not saying that, like we talked about
earlier roof and stuff like that, but it is. It
is a wearing thing, like for your mind and everything.
And and yeah, being with guys that are all just
kind of like going through it with you and everyone

(46:58):
loves music and it's doing it. It makes the whole
world of difference.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
I said touring for me, I toured last year and
on a major tour and and honestly, dude, for me,
it was just because I'm a I'm a family guy
and you strike me as that yourself, and and for me,
it was like it was the missing out on things
that really hit me in my gut. And I just

(47:24):
even little things like kid's birthday parties and maybe like
my parents' birthday, or they would get together and have
a fish fry or something and they had face Oh,
let's face some Dan, and I'm eating family. We went
on family vacation with you and my wife went on
kid and I didn't even get to go, you know.
And and seeing seeing them eating shrimp around an you know,

(47:47):
an island in the house we were in and uh
me being in Pittsburgh wolfing down two they old barogis.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
I was like, yeah, man, yeah, it's a it's a
buying thing, like totally, and like that's that's.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
What I do.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
I have so much respect for the guys that are
just road dogs like that that didn't have the social
media stuff that kind of like you know, for a year,
Like I mean, that's like that's my influence. Like I
think the guys like Shane Smith and the Saints and
like Flatlan Shane Smith, the Austome guys too, like flat
Land Turnpike like these, Like.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
I wrote a bunch of songs for flat Land.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
Really yeah, very cool. We were just at their Red
Rock show.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
They're killing They're so cool man, what's the like we
never say goodbye?

Speaker 4 (48:36):
That was the off the new one. That's my favorite one.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
We wrote that. I love the story.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Don't forget what you were saying, because he totally tell
you about a song he co wrote.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
I'm sorry, this is my show. So it's about flat
land dude. He me and Cluda were right and that
that day and we were FaceTime because he was in
the day from Austin too or somewhere.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
They're from Lubbock. I think that's where they say, like,
I think they're all a little spread out and maybe
like Rubby because where they.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
So he was facetiming me or zooming or whatever. This
was during COVID when we wrote it, and uh, he was.
He was sitting there and throughout the day like he
started kind of getting like slumpy in his chair and
kind of and he was paying it. He was still
in the right and all of a sudden he's like
sweating a little bit. Oh wow, And I was like,

(49:29):
I glad, I'm looking a little green around the gills. Dude,
you good, And he was like, ah, I think I
got COVID man. I was like what he was like, Yeah,
it's really starting to set in right now, and oh yeah,
I can't tell. He was like, uh, I said, man, dude,
go to bed, like we'll finish this another time, And
we ended up finishing it later. But I would say

(49:50):
eighty percent of that song was written with Cletto, just
sick as a dog, sick as a dog with COVID.
He was sweating his ball. It was beautiful. Anyway.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
They're really great. Yeah, they love those guys, but a
lot of a lot of respect for dudes like that.
And it's like grinding grin. They play three times a week.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Yeah, oh yeah, and I love it. I love it
and and and riding like a mini vanished.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
They were on the tour I was. I was with
last really yeah, they were on yeah, and it was
they were the one of the openers, so you know,
like Kurt and oh yeah, very well, very well.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
I met him.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
They're all awful, so Ks Thorn and everybody side.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
It was so funny. This is sidetrack, but it was
so funny when we were doing some like some recording
with him, and I forget I kind of forget when
earlier this year and he was like, couldn't play the
fiddle at all. He's like I'm just learning, I'm trying,
and she was like I saw like an Instagram post
like a month ago. He's playing in the stadium.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Like literally I was out there when he was like
coming in to play because because the Flatland guy, the guys,
the fiddle player felt flat land.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Oh yeah, little dude.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Man, yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Man, I was just talking to him on the bus.
I can't.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
I got you, I got you anyway. He is solid dude,
incredible fiddle player. So like him and Kurt would come
out and they would like like he would take the
real hard parts and then he.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Played Wesley Hall Wesley Yeah, great dude, great dude.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
And uh, it was so fun seeing him like come
into his own as a fiddle player and kind of
learning the parts under that under Wesley. It's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
I always a.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Great utility player. Though he's wacky dude. Yeah that gut.
Kurt is wacky face. Yeah, but I.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Always know, like I always when Kurt gets into music,
like I can always Kurt is a really good judge
of music, Like he loves, he loves, and he finds
different stuff. And I think that's why he like joined
up with those raised rowdy guys and and and it
kind of killer taking a part of that. Like I know,
when Kurt's listening to music for somebody else or he's
like posting about or something to like pay attention because

(52:07):
it's it's gonna be good.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
My favorite thing about that guy is there's he doesn't
have a filter on anything. So we just played this
Bootleggers festival down in Mirramar with him and they had
us come to a couple of rounds and one of
the rounds was on the beach and Kurt was there
was out there watching and I played a song, I know,
the song that i'd written, Welcome You're so just go

(52:31):
look it up, you know, spin it whatever called better
Together and I was playing it and uh, we got
done and Kurt was like, hey, man, great set once
you hang out with Corey who's the piano player, and
let him teach you the correct, correct chords to that
song that you wrote. He just he was just saying,
and I was like, I started laughing so hard. I
was like, yeah, man, I don't even know the chords

(52:51):
to my own songs.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Like it's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
I don't. Yeah, he's a funny guy. Can't he can't
he can't hold it back though, he's.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
What's next? What's next for Dylan Gossip? What you got
coming down the pipe?

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Dude.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
I mean we're kind of like right past the halfway
point of this tour, so we're finishing up and then
we end in Australia in December six, so we're locking.
That's my second time in Australia this year.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Australia's got like they're a mad fan base.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Don't flying like Europe, Like I think it has to
be just because like they just don't like it's so
oversaturated here. We're like, you can go see a show
that's absolutely and it is. Well, we got a country
guy coming. It's like Tam It's maybe Rightley Green, like
in a month, it's like cool. We got to make
sure we get to these shows.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
And not only a country artists, a hot country artist.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
I think it's a whig country what hot country artists?

Speaker 4 (53:45):
It's the way he's saying, I think it's not you
like it. Yeah, So we got we got Australia excited.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
You want Adelaide, You want to Adelaide, Sydney.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
We're going. We're going Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and then New Zealand.
Oh yeah, yeah, no purpose run.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
I got you. I got a restaurant for you. You
gotta here. Okay, I'm talk'll talk. I'll talk to you
about right in Sydney. So it's fire. Yeah you are.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Uh see the harmonica case? Think you got it with you?

Speaker 4 (54:14):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Can we can we get some tasty licks on on
the arms?

Speaker 2 (54:18):
We can get only if you seen the Darious Roger versions.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
I'm not get nobody get chastised online for having these
lyrics in front of me, but I have I have
to put my own lyrics in front.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Of me, almost like a fake harmonica player.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
To fake you make it.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
That sounds just like it.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Heading down south to the land of the Pine, thing
my way into North Caroline, standing up the road bread
of God, I see head alight.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Where's my fill at.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Champton Coast seventeen nine boucave of dog wood flowers?

Speaker 2 (55:09):
And now I'm hoping for Riley. I can see my
baby in the night.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
See it if you know it?

Speaker 7 (55:15):
So rock me Mama like a wagging We rock me
Mama anyway.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
You feel.

Speaker 7 (55:24):
Mama, Rock me who he's good? Rocking me Mama like
the wind and the rain. Rock me Mama like South
bound chain, Hey, mama rock.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Take us home boys dying gossip.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
See Smiley Green clap back there for you boy?

Speaker 2 (56:01):
What's he doing back there? Smiling?

Speaker 1 (56:03):
I don't even want to know that guy's name.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
Smiley Green, Smiley Green, I feel you'd wear that. It's
not a bad Yeah. Players cringing out there.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
There's some harmony. Harmony singers out there not cringing because
you sounding good over there a little bit if you can,
if you can tell there's a Rubic's cube sitting beside Dylan.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Oh yeah, let's put him on the spot.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
And I already did. I put him on the spot
before the show. I was like, hey, man, I heard
you're a Rube's Cube guy. Can you solve this?

Speaker 4 (56:35):
And he was like, man, I kind of lost my touch.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
I used to be able to do it if you
were flicking like you.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
Yeah, you get you get the cross here and then
you give us a cross, give us across. Let me
least get that go.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Hey, we got time.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
So yeah, what you want to do is you want
to match the green?

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Do you believe it's been an hour?

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Though it's been an hour an hour time fly So
you're cool as hell, man, Thank you y'all aren't too bad. Yeah,
I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
I'll take that fun.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
This has been a lot of fun, dude. This is
I've done one podcast before. I had a lot of fun.
I never know, like there it is, So there's your
cross cross camera.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
That's how you start the white cross.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
And you gotta get it like blue, orange, green, So
you cross it on every side cross it and then
you do and then you do the corners white, and
you do the corners white.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
But he can do it too.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
He's like in the same boat's name, but you're probably
a little better, right.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Huh did you do it? Throw it to smile?

Speaker 4 (57:34):
Dude? What happens?

Speaker 2 (57:34):
I keep keep working on keep working on this.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
So then I'll go back to tell us how I
saw our podcast is.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
Oh yeah, no, yeah, best one I've ever Yeah, I'll
tell you what's the top two podcasts ever? No, but yeah,
I never know, like it's so funny. And I've seen
this in the last one too, where I was like
I always watched and listen to podcasts or whatever it
is in a while, but you always think of like
funny things to say when you're in the car would
be I'd be killing it. Right now. We do that

(58:02):
on the way in and then you're like on it.
And then just like earlier today, we were like, what's
you know, Like, what's something you hate? I was like, dude,
that my mind is blank.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
It turns out it was Texas fans love.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
It that that one that one not even think of.
That one's kind of we were talking.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Came from the heart.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
Sometimes it just has to get out. All right.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
We do two things at the end of the show.
The first one we're gonna do is called the One
that Got Away? Oh yeah, we do it.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Sure was that thing.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
You had to say what I was saying, it's a
part of show for the one I played that that's cool?

Speaker 4 (58:45):
Sound good.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Played?

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Keeping it?

Speaker 5 (58:55):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (58:55):
It could be a fish, It could be a deer,
it could be a sandwich, it could be whatever.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
Truck.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
When we say one that Got Away to you, d G,
I must start calling you.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
What uh what do you think of?

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Man?

Speaker 4 (59:10):
I got I didn't have one earlier, but I got
one now and I'm now I'm glad you.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
And so when we were just yes, the one that
got how's it going back there? Smile? Got the corners?

Speaker 1 (59:24):
You got about five minutes, there's.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
A camera aimed right at your face. I didn't know
if you knew that or not, but it's it's it
comes out of that deer's eyes, it's into your soul.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
No.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
So we were in Colorado playing some shows and my agent,
Brett Seliva, who's the man.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
I know Brett. He's a great guy.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
I love Brett. So he's my agent.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
He used to work for John John story about you know,
because I know great.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
Now, but he's I love him. Man.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
We went fly fishing and and dude, the water was
real low, so the fish were skittish and we were
doing we were in waiters and we were we were
out there and yeah, this was in Colorad. This was man,
Where were we exactly? We were maybe like an hour
north of Denver or I know our south and yeah,
water like just they just let them out to the

(01:00:11):
city of Denver and it was low. The fisher stating
like they weren't was they weren't running like they usually were.
So it's kind of like a tough day and like
we're kind of catching like a few like browns, like
there was some rainbow there as well, but like do
we so like I'm sure you'll been fly fishing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Like as well, right, Like, okay, we're not really versed.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
So I'm not at all. It's my first time ever.
So we had like a in breats gone quite a bit,
but we had a guy because I'm different.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
I'm the poser who throws like takes a little spinning
reel and a rooster tail.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Okay, and I saw the real fly fisherman. Really yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
Dude, So there's things called hatches where it's like it's
it's not even really as much seasonal as it is
like by like the hour of like thirty minutes. So
like our guide is like looking to see all the
bugs constantly, and he seems like all these like I mean,
do you can't even see them, but he can just
like boom. He's like they just hatched. In about twenty minutes,
they're gonna start making their way down to the water.
So as soon as that happens, you're gonna see like

(01:01:05):
I Freebody's call called it. But it's like a feeding
when like the trout come up and you'll see him
like preache the surface, grab him come back down.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
He's like that's what you want. Now we're still throwing
lines in and like you're letting it coach down the water,
pulling it up. Sure, and like fill fly fishing, but
this is called like it's called dry fishing or something
like that. Dry fly. Yeah, and that's just where you're like,
that's where like you see the videos where someone's like
caste and dude, like there was this massive brown that

(01:01:32):
was there and like you could see it pop up
and man, I finally got him to bite and that
thing broke off and got away and like brot and
didn't break but like it didn't didn't get the hook
because like it's a super specific way of setting the hook.
It's just like straight up and it's like kind of smooth.
It's not like a aggressive that's not like you're setting
like a bass or something like that. Really and uh man,

(01:01:54):
that one sucks is that we caught like one more
of the rest of the day and it was like
this time it could use it as bait, but.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Like yeah, yeah, so that was the one. That's all right.
Uh oh, I'm saying some some color solid there. You
gotta got a white wall. Uh all right, Now let's
talk about favorite tune, The greatest slash Favorite just cornerstone

(01:02:22):
song that that makes you love music a little more
and you've always loved Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
I think we talked about it earlier. Ain't no Sunshine?
Oh yeah, that's always been the one that like, can't
fire whatever we're singing it, playing it, give it to
come on.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
This one sounded sultry.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
This sounded real good.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Yeah, get on down there.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
No, it's funny. I actually like I've only just started
playing with a pic this year because I've been playing
so much. It's been rocking my fingers.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Dude, I've been doing I don't really I don't like playing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
I have to have it just doesn't feel like I
know someone it does.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
It does feel in the sunshine and he's gone, he's
gonna be accelerated. Snow won't where she.

Speaker 5 (01:03:07):
Only in the sun child when she's gone, she's always
going too long in.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
Its time, she goes joy. Snow won't where she only.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
On the darkness day every day.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
I think these are the words, of course enough in
the sunshine, when she's gone, she's always going too long
in it tire, she goes joy.

Speaker 5 (01:03:50):
I know, I know, I know, I know, I know,
I know, I know, I know, I know, I know
I know I'm gonna leave me on thing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
Hang along. Ain't no sun shot when she.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Deal like goss real singer player. I know, twelve seconds,
I know. I know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
I'm a DG fan.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
That's what I know.

Speaker 5 (01:04:14):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Yeah, man, you went twelve seconds on the I knows.
I thought that was that was started.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
I started feeling the pressure.

Speaker 6 (01:04:19):
Yeah, I broke the watch because I was I want
to see how long you just got to kind of
take a spot, like like it's done now, dude, thanks
for hanging out with us.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
Man, this has been a block.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Thanks for you come back. Oh we love we won't
catch a show man.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
Yeah, yeah, it happened.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
We never know it kind of the same thing you're
talking about podcasts earlier, Like like obviously we had know
I wouldn't you know, know you just walking up the street.
But like and and a lot of these times we
have buddies in here and it's we cut up and
we have fun and it's easy and dude, it's it's
so much fun bringing somebody in here like yourself that
we don't know anything about and can kind of sit

(01:04:55):
down and shoot the ship for an hour and become
a buddy and a fan of somebody even more.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Yeah, I'm a fan for sure. Thank you very much.
Thank you. I respect your uh, your your journey and
uh and your path even though it's not necessarily how
we got here or others, it doesn't matter. It's your path.
It's specific to you. And uh, congratulations man. I hope
it keeps rocking for you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Great dude, great head on your shoulder, and keep keep
saying true to yourself and what you feel like you
know is right and yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
And when you run out of those big old fat
song ideas, just holler, yeah, I'm come cover with you.
That's really all this is. It's a sheep. We put
the bull over you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
I don't know if you saw the fine print, but
we have to have at least two on your one
a piece and then one together and then a single dealing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Hey, thanks for coming everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Thanks Smiley Green.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
Uh yeah, how to go? How do we end up?
We need to figure out on the bus or something.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
You can have that one, Yeah, absolutely, you can have that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Uh we'll check out next time. Check out doing his music.
It's great, he's great. Follow his journey piece.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
Uh h