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June 16, 2026 43 mins

Cata Díaz left Chile at 18 with a three-month visa and never went back. She's been building a life city by city ever since — Barcelona, London, Los Angeles, Miami, and now New York. She talks about finding skateboarding through a skate shop job at 16, surviving cancer at 22, and what it took to get back on a board after chemotherapy.

Plus: astrology and tarot as a practice versus as a superstition, and all the emotions in between.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Good Luck with That is an iHeart women's sports production
in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
What's up, everyone, I'm Ashley Raefel, your host.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
This is Good Luck with That, a podcast about skateboarding,
hate Kata. Before we jump in, I wanted to quickly
acknowledge Rio O'Brien. The London skate community is definitely hurting
right now after losing him yesterday. And I know London
was a meaningful chapter in your life as a skateboarder.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
How are you holding all of that today?

Speaker 1 (00:34):
It's just really sad. It's sad to me in particularly.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
He was also like the boyfriend of one of a
close friend of mine. He's like X skateboarder, really really sweet,
nice person. So obviously it's hard for everyone.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
A tremendous amount of grief. And thank you for sharing
that for everybody listening. Today's guest is Kata Diaz, chilean
skater who became a Macapa staple at eighteen, cancer survivor,
now based in New York, rides for Nike, SB Spitfire, Venture,
Loop Hardware, Shout Out Mob, and somebody who's been known.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
To pull a Tarot card before she skates Kata. Welcome
to good luck with that.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Thank you, Ashley, so glad to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Thank you. I mean, you've been on the running list.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
We've just been trying to coordinate because you've just been
like bopping around so many different cities. When you think
about Chile, Barcelona, London, La and now New York, what
piece of yourself came from kind of each place.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Back in my city in Chile, you know, like I'm
not from the capital, so there's not a lot going
on with skating just in general. And I was seeing
the moment I started, I was very passionate, and I
used to see Barcelona and so many skate videos that
I loved, and all the time I was starting college
and I was like, I don't know, kind of like

(02:03):
struggling with that, Like I wasn't sure about their career
I was doing, and how about a lot of stuff.
And I thought, maybe, I don't know if you say
these charming English but like frozen or freeze my career,
like put it in hall for a second and go
to Barcela to skate for like three months and come back.
I just never came back.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
And then you had a little chapter in London and
a brief minute in LA.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (02:33):
And now you're in New York and you just rolled up.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
I think your roommate might be Nicole Haas and Nixon.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Five, Like what is the energy of that city right now?

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Oh my god, it's so sick to be honest, Like
we got here like last Monday, I mean trying to
like move to a city that was more like walkable
or whatever for a second. And this year particularly, I
like I took with Nicole about like all of these
things I wanted to do for this year because I

(03:06):
got to be sad to live here in the States
for like five years. So at first I was like,
every time I go to the States, I just go
to LA and I don't get to see other places
or like experience really like the culture and other places
in the States. Which makes use because I was living
in London, so you just try to like skip the
winter so you don't partially come to like New York

(03:28):
to do that.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
And we did it.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
We're finally here. And we did Miami as well this year,
which was a vibe. We stayed there for like three months.
I don't know, it's it's been a lot of exploring
and but we got here in the next wing twice,
so film pretty lucky.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Can you kind of walk me through the pros and
cons of skate being a skater in London, being a
skateboarder in La, the Miami bit to now New York,
Like what's your map look like when you define a
great place to live as a skateboarder?

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Obviously, like since I came from Mars Cilona, you know,
there's really like hard to like toop that up because
like Barcelona, it's like a place where you have like
five spots by blog you walk through, so the structure
mentally for that it's like different. And moving to to
London after, you know, there was a lot to it
because I also moved there while I was like on chemotherapy,

(04:22):
so like my first like six months it was just
straight up treatment, not really like skating as much. There
was a lot of like relearning how to walk, how
to like get out like in a park, and like
a wonderful country. The culture is beautiful, people's like soapolite,
nice caring. So it was a shock too. After that
go to La, I feel like I skated skaars really

(04:45):
the first time for in my life. I started filming
for the part I'm working on right now, which was sick.
It was a whole different experience and I don't know,
just hanging out with a lot of my friends, you know,
being close to Nicole, like you know, Norah Gill, like
getting to see everyone more often.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
You know, I think Miami.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Was it's more steady. It's not as fast as La,
you know what I mean, No, tell.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Me about that, because when I think Miami, I think
it's it's fast.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
What are we talking about? Vibe wise?

Speaker 1 (05:17):
I feel when it comes to like skating in.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
La, yeah, I'm just like there's always something happening, There's
always a session somewhere. So when we moved to Miami
with Nicole, at first we were like kind of I
also was still filming for this part in La for
the most part, so there was a lot of like
going back and forth and whatever, and so like every
time I'll be there, we'll be just trying to have fun.

(05:42):
So we can just like go back to like actually
film or do whatever somewhere else. You know, Like my
life last year was just like CouchSurfing the whole year round.
So I kind of like needed that plaus in order
to like I don't know move on with like especially
with this project that it's still not even finished, but

(06:04):
it was like a good breaking between so I could
like recharge.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
I love that you've just been kind of going with
the flow and finding how to maximize this five year visa.
Also I've been benefiting from it, we all have, because
you've just been more stateside with us. You mentioned something
that was really interesting, like you said you moved to
LA and this is not something people normally say. And
then I started skating skate parks for the first time,

(06:30):
usually quite the opposite, But you grew up in a
city with no skate parks and what you were sixteen
when you started skating, Like how did you find skateboarding?
And what was it like to have to grow up
skating with no infrastructure around you and figure it out?

Speaker 1 (06:46):
I think those it.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Is like, well, like I started skating and a CD
that doesn't have a skate park, yes, and we all
skate mainly street. I was sixteen, and I feel like
me and all the homi seeing the classa that we
skated on where like super down to build whatever. You know,
it was just like a hustle cause like we had

(07:07):
to like I don't know, we'll make a box or
a flat rail or whatever, and like the police will
come take it from us, or like you know, you'll
get tickets furthering that kind of stuff. And all of
the time was like everyone had to be very responsible
about it, Like if you didn't put the box or
the rail back in the skate shop or whatever, they'll
get stolen.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
So it was, you know, it was like a whole
thing all the time.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
And mainly what we did or like the first like
two years of me skinning was like learn a trick
on flat ground, then you will go to like this
one spot that has a three stare, you do it there,
and then like you take it to the five stare.
And I was saying, like there wasn't much more than
that in that regard, Like I feel like I did
my first drop in Barcelona with like twenty one.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
This makes so much sense to why your flat ground
game is so on lock? Why skateboarding though, Like there's
a million things to choose from, and I want to know,
like what made you go.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
I'm just gonna make this my life, my life's work.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
So I grew up in in like a we call
it like a hill, like the top of a hill.
It's like the most scheduled type of neighborhood you can
grow up in my city. So there's not like space
time for like skating or like those kind of things.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
You know.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Like I had to like start working like pretty early
on in my life. I think when I was like fifteen,
at the end of fifteen, I got kicked out of
school for like the second time, and I was giving
away cvs you know, for like finding a job or whatever,
and they did call me from a skate shop.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
So I was like, well, let's see, you know whatever.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
I started working there and became friends with a lot
of the homies, like that, we'll go to the shop
or whatever. Like these were guys, they were like way
older than me at the time, like I was sixteen.
They were like thirty twenty nine, you know, other than
high Keiths already or whatever.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
But one of them particularly was like, you should try,
you should try.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
He gave me his born and I started like pushing
outside the skate shop and I was like, oh my god,
this is it.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Like this, it's so much fun.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
And since then I was like skating pretty much every
day or like pushing around or trying to do whatever.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
You know, I love that just took one push and
you were in what was the name of that skate shop.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
It's actually called skate Shuck because Chuck is the owner.
He also was like my first wars, funsort.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
And what you like.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Moved to Barcelona at eighteen, which is like a pretty
young age. Just be like I'm gonna do this and
fly to this entire other country. That's where like I
got introduced to you and your skateboarding, like most of
your like Macba clips that would just like blow up
the internet and we're all like, who is God deadaz?

Speaker 2 (09:54):
What happened when you stayed past your three month visa?

Speaker 1 (09:56):
It was a whole thing, to be honest, like.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
So like basically my life in China was like falling
apart like slowly, you know, and a lot of things
were like at a place and I was like, you
know what, like I'm gonna just cause I said money
back from working a lot, like so I'm gonna just
go over there for three months skate whatever, and I'll
come back and finish my career and do things properly

(10:21):
and like you know, like figure out my life again.
Because it was of a moment where like a lot
of things were like falling out of place, and it
was I don't know, like I really I love really
hard moment in my life as well in the country.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
So when I went over there, I was like.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
I didn't thought about like, oh, I'm not gonna have
like a visa, you know, like I'm not gonna because
there was like it was no problem. I was like
just going from a tourist time. But then I don't know,
like a lot happens in three months. You think it won't,
but a lot happens in three months, and I'm not

(11:00):
even sure I make like the decision of like leaving
or staying. Like like when I was like one month
in or whatever, it was like literally like I had
to go get meg flight and I just did it.
I kind of was like, I know, I figured out,
you know, this is like you know, at the time,
I already was offered like a job there as like

(11:20):
a SASA instructor, and so there was things that were
happening as well. It was not like so insane like
and I was like maybe it could work and I
will definitely like Tila still like a Thorowell country. So
I was still gonna have an opportunity of a better life.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Can we back up to the salsa instructor you were
skating and then making money teaching salsa.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, like what level are we talking?

Speaker 3 (11:48):
And like could I just like be a tourist And
I'm like, come take a salsa lesson with you?

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Or what's up with this?

Speaker 4 (11:54):
So when I was growing up, one of my my
brothers said a music engineer, and we used to like
make music together or whatever. And I went to like
a lot of like stuff for like because we mainly
made like hip hop growing up. So like I got
an internship in like academy or whatever, and you had
to do like a lot of different like stuff to

(12:15):
cover up like your.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Credits on the classes, you know, And I was like,
breakdowns was not like my thing.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
So I like chose like like salsa, and I studied
Colombia salsa and Cuban salsa started two different styles. They're
historically also made for different reasons, which is very interesting.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
And yeah, and I got like a title.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
By the time I was like sixteen already, so I
had that to back me up. And when I moved
to Barcelona, I went to this one like Latin party
and I was dancing there and I started teaching this
old man who was there who kind of like wanted
to like dance, but he didn't even like how to
start whatever.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
And turns out he was.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Like the dad of the owner of the gym I
ended up working on, you know, so that was all
really lucky as well.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Go get a clip and then teach them salsa. You're
gonna have to tell me what the difference of Colombian
salsa versus Cuban salsa is in short.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
In terms like musically is very obvious.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
What are the differences, you know, and also the way
like they both dance like well, Cuban salsa has a
more specific historical beginning, you know, like when they created
the style that they have. You dance in a circle,
and not everyone can enter the circle at different times,
you know, and you have to know the steps specifically

(13:43):
to be able to be part of the circle that
was created that way because at the time they were
having a lot of people from America coming in to like,
you know, political reasons and resolution of that, but the
main thing was like to not dance with datingos because
they didn't know how to get this circle.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
This sounds like skateboarding a little bit, a little bit.
I love it talking Street.

Speaker 6 (14:11):
Verse park Kook versus Core is more choreographic, you know,
and it's way more like, you know, like it's not
the kind of stuff that you just go and dance
like as if it is Colombian.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
That is, if you know, like the basics, you can
that's pretty much any song like Qban is more like choreographed,
and you need to know where to get in, where
to get out, you know, and to understand like the basics.
It takes a while, you know, it's something you do
with practice, like you have to be in the circle
for a while.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
I love this. I had no idea. Next time we're
at a spot, I know what to ask. Now, hey,
you're listening to good luck with that.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
We'll be right back after this short ad break. Wasted
described you as skating with style, grace, and femininity.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
That's captivating. What does that even mean?

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Well, I think it depends, you know, like what is
the like what does people consider femininity? You know? I
think I always brought myself to the session, like entirely,
and being a woman who was not something that was
out of the table, Like I never try to look

(15:27):
like a dude or like more like like less feminine
than I was, you know. And I think at the
time that they did this whole thing that was more
specifically like oh, like you know, she's very feminine.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
She's not trying to like be a skater or look
like whatever.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
So like with who I am today, that my teem
like oh where we at today? That seems like, oh
my god, like that's so weird to say. But I
feel like back the moment this interview with what talent
was made, it was less seen to see people that
was like, you know, like just as feminine as I was,
well skating, which is completely relevant to whatever like skalboard

(16:09):
related thing, you know that I don't think it should
have been mentioned back then either, But I think that's
what when they're trying to like point at you know, like.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Of course, of course, like yeah, that was your not
not here by Luck video, which is great, and like
you said, like, what does it have to do with
skateboarding and you and I think that it's very clear
that that was just from a gaze of a male's
perspective to like kind of delineate you in the sea
of skateboarders. But like, yeah, you are Katadas. This is

(16:37):
how you present yourself, and I'll back the style and
grace and of course you have excellent femininity. But I
just thought it was an interesting way to like lead
your story because there's so much more to it. So
on top of that, you also won Sexiest Skater of
the Year.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Congratulations.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
I guess again, like, what do you even do with
that kind of a title?

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Nothing, It's not something I can put on my curriculum
to sets to my sponsors.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Really, I don't know, is there attacks to this kind
of a thing?

Speaker 4 (17:09):
I think like, uh, like in a way, yeah, a
lot of people just like perceives like like females skateboarders
like that.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
You know, like there's like a box.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Of like like either you're pretty or you're not, how
skill you are, how you're not.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
But that's one of like like are you nice?

Speaker 4 (17:30):
How you not? And it's one of the boxes where
like I don't know, it's like irrelevant to people. Like
a lot of the comments I get on whatever, it's
just like always have about like how do I look
and not like um skating, which is fine, it's whatever,
Like it's not like it's not like relevant really, you know,
it's just like a shame that like so much get lost,

(17:51):
just like in the use of those.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Kind of things, and we haven't. It's like we're still
kind of in the dark ages there. And you know, historically,
like early internet days, when it was hard to find
women's skateboard media, if you were to type in like
female skateboarder, you would just get like the hot list
that was it, Like Letisia Buviani would be like up there,
number one skateboarder. Yet there was like all these other

(18:14):
missing skateboarders in the background.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
So it's we're still working on it.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
And like you said, there's so much lost when you
just talk about how you look.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
There's like a thing about like how we reduce and
like optetize women in general, where it's like it all
comes produced to like how you look, so like it's
not just in skating. That's why for me, it's not
like a personal thing where I'm like, oh my god,
I don't think they're not seeing my skill.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
I don't think that I'm not being appreciated.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
I do feel like women in general, in whatever you do,
whether you're pretty or not, it's going to count as
part of your skill, which is a fucking shame, you know,
because there's so like like I think there's a lot
of like the like the human value that lost in
the views when it comes to women.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
That doesn't happen necessarily to other people.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
You know, people have lots of processes before trying a trick,
like all different rituals. Can you walk me through your
spiritual process of getting a clip?

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Oh, my spiritual process, I think like so to me,
like having like a spiritual life back when I was
in Chile was like not a thing, Like I think
when I moved to Spain, I was extremely lonely, like
in like it's where when you're in a new country
and you don't know anyone, you know, it has never
happened to me again the same way because you know,

(19:40):
when I moved to La I knew like all the girls.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
When I moved to London, I knew a lot of
my like I had.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Already a lot of friends there. But when I moved
to Barcelona particularly, I was like alone on it. And
I'm come from like an athletist family, Like nobody believes
in anything in my family. It's my mom that believes
in everything, which is really weird. But like like she's

(20:07):
like the kind person and you walk in her house
and she has like Jesus Christ next to like Buddha,
next to a virgin from like another culture, like.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
And she believes it all. Like but.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
So to me when I just moved towards and I
became like very like Catholic or whatever for a couple
of years, which you mean I was can be really strange,
but it did help me at the time, you know,
it woke me through like the first few years of
being an immigrant.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Being illegal there, being lonely whatever.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
So but then like a lot of things fell out
of place again in my life, and I was like,
if this is not putting that back to Chester, I
don't think it is what I need right now. In fact,
it was making things more complicated for me in a way.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
So I like kind of like retire from that slowly.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
And then I started like regaining contact with my mom,
you know, like like in Chile, and like we will
talking a lot in the phone. And she when I
was like ten years old, she started reading the tarot cards.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
It was like.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
It was really like life saving for her at the time,
you know, Like on twenty ten, when I was saying
we had a huge earthquit in Chile and we lost
our house, we lost everything, and it was like a
huge timop uncertainty. And she ran into this one taratist
industry that like guide her through a couple of things

(21:39):
and it worked. So for my mom was like, oh,
I need to learn this. And obviously that passed on
to me because I grew.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Up around it.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
So when when we were like in quarantine or so,
you know, like saying, I started get it in touch
again with that more, you know, and I kind of
like didn't fuck so much with tar cards because I

(22:10):
don't think there's like a logic behind it that is
strong enough for me to be like, oh, yeah, this
is true. So I started on astrology on the edge
of that kind of thing, you know, like and I
got so into it, like I ended up like studying
like a course or like whatever and like doing like
the proper things to like actually know.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
About it, which is being very helpful for Nicole. Last year.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
There was a point that I was like trying to
move as fast as I could with the part and
try all these like I don't know, I think like
out of my box kind of tricks, you know, so
I can just bring something new to this project that
I haven't done before. And in that I asked my

(22:57):
mom to pull up a car for me, like, is
it like a good day to go? Try that I'm
gonna die today. And a lot of the times it
helped me a lot, until you know, it becomes like
a superstition. You have to get rid of it and
mentally start over and be like, nah, like this has
to come from me.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
I have to have like the power of decision in
this situation.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
I think that's the main thing with whatever you whatever
kind of like spiritual life you do. If it feels
like encarclating yourself and like it's not freeing you or
making you feel more capable of things on your own
you're more in power, then you're probably like, hey, it right,
maybe that's not the angle. You know, whatever that is

(23:37):
connecting readily with your spirit should make you feel more free.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah, it make you just feel like more in your
body and a tune and powerful and connected to you
and yeah, yeah, not living by superstition.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
But I am I am a little curious here.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Was there ever a moment that like a card or
an astrological thing was happening that said basically like another
where it's like not today, and you ignored that advice
and uh immediately regretted it.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
It's bimbos, you know. It happened to me once that
it was like don't go and I went. It actually
worked out, you know, and it's been also like go
today's to day.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Nothing's gonna happen to you.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
And I ended up like hitting my head and open
up my head for like with a crazy concussion.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
You know, Like it's bembos, Like there's.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Like anything can happen really, but it's when I'm just
trying to tell you, like like life is uncertain no
matter what you do. Yeah, live your life, yeah, you know,
like it's like there's nothing I can say to you
that will make you prepare for whatever is going to
happen to you. For sure, if it helps you, it
helps you, you know, if it makes you feel more
easy on like Okay, this is what's going to happen.

(24:48):
But I also abused it. So for me, what was
the point that I was like, it's just not working,
you know right now, it's not I do feel like
sometimes with astrology, you can predict like the mood of
a period of time of like a week, you know,
in order to be like, Look, I don't know if
like mentally you'll feel capable of doing X, you know,

(25:09):
and that might make more sense than just pull up
a hard card if I'm honest.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, what's going on in the stars right now?

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Are you up to date? Could you tell us on
how we're feeling right now?

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Not really.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
All I've done lately is just read Nicole's chart over
and over. She's letting her Sadden returned and yeah, so
we've been seeing the alignments around that more often. But
I don't know, like so far, I know we're in
gem and I I don't think we have like a
fulm until like weeks.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
So aren't you in Saturn return?

Speaker 1 (25:43):
No, I'm finished six.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Oh one more year, baby, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Get ready to get rock girl. Maybe Honestly, mine was great,
A grateful for the growth. B Yeah, I was bumpy,
but it wasn't like chattering, and it just set me
up to be the person that I wanted to be.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
I'm excited for you because like I always forget how
young you are, because you could be twenty six going
on like sixty six. I say this in the kindest way,
like you are just an old soul Katadias.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
And yeah, I'm.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
I'm happy that you're shepherding to call through hers right now.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
She's lucky to have you.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
Okay, but we have a lot of simula. I don't
want to stay because then everyone's going to know. But
like I have the same rising as you, but like
I feel like maybe it will be around that the
same time.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Yeah maybe, I mean we're speaking of you are an aquarius,
you are a cancer moon.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I don't know what Your rising is.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
The same one as yours.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Oh, Scorpio rising, We did that, so you we have
do we have the same moon and rising?

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Oh I'm moon Pisces.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Oh your moon is Pisces.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
Moon pieces last year we were looking at on my
solar revolution and I was like, oh, vis year, my
moon is cancer. In astrology in general, you know, but
mostly like cabalistic astrology, they say like, uh, there's the
strongest More like I don't know, like the energy that
creates them more in their reality that we live in.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
It's their water.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Signs, because like emotion and yen is whatever manifest that
happens in reality. So that's why like your moon is
always cause to yourself is so important in all kinds
of sostrology.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
My god, I just had an insane idea that we
should start reading skaters astrology charts and like organizing like
people's skate parts by their astrological place.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
This is interesting.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
I was feeling you do that.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Oh my god, Thrasher, you just have a new section
in the mag now or actually, doloroes like we can
figure it out.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Well, we'll sort this out.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
I think this is an untapped market skaters astrology, uh
brought to you in part by Cottadias.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
But I'm starting to analyze like astrology patterns that many
first asked tricks.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
We could end up spending another hour on that. I'm
just gonna leave it to the listeners for the mystery
of what that even means.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
And when you are ready to tell us, we'll have
you back on. Stay with us.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
We'll be right back after this quick ad break. You've
had so many chapters in your journey because you've just
signed up to live and travel and be independent and

(28:42):
figure out how to build a life on top of
another life on top of another life. But at one
point you found out you had cancer. Could you walk
me through like your age and how that happened.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
So I think I was like twenty two when we
found out, Uh it was. It was pretty terrible.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Like I was in a tripping Mamo with Nike, and
I started like throwing up blood like like often and
then like actually a lot of blood. And obviously at
first I didn't want to go to the doctor there.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
I wanted to wait till I go back to Spaine
at the time.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
For some reason, I don't remember exactly, but obviously like
there's a point where, like, you know, everyone's like you
should go to the doctor like now, and so that
they were going from Mamo to Copenhagen because it was
going to be like Copenhagen open and I went to
the doctor. I was like I thought, like it wasn't

(29:43):
like that big of a deal. So I went on
my own. And when I'm there, I'm like already, like
you know, like I've been lost in a lot of
we throughout like three days, so I'm like having these
moments where I like pass out and wake up.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
I pass out and wake up.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
So in between that, like the doctor explains me or
something really bad is going on, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
I'm like like by his accent.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
I'm like I'm not sure you know enough English to
know what you're saying right now to me. And yeah,
eventually when they explain me the whole thing, it was like,
we can either do surgery like right now and see
if we can save it, or you can, like I
don't know, see if you can like survive with it

(30:33):
like top five months.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
But they did tell me the surgery was really risky.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
So the first thing I thought because some of my
friends back in Spain. One of my friends died in
Spain and he was from Chile, and it was one
of the most terrible parts of it is a lot
of people doesn't think about it, but it's what immigrating
other places is that if you die in another country,

(31:02):
in your family wants to like very you or like
whatever they have to pay for the transportation to your
country again or go to that country. They all like
travel and very painful options for your family to deal with.
So I was like, if there's like such a high amount,

(31:24):
like high rate of possibilities of me dying in surgery,
maybe I should just go and do it in Chile.
So if I die, I am like my body's there
with everyone. So I called my dad. I told him,
I call in my tam and Nike. He paid for
my flight back that same day. And the worst part

(31:44):
of it is nobody wanted to do such a risky surgery.
Kiss nobody wants to operate on patient that might die
on the table. So I had a bad part of it,
but I think my family was who got the worst
of it.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Gently.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
I cannot even begin to imagine what that level of
intense news at twenty two and to manage, like you said,
you were making like cost efficient decisions about Okay, if
I die, then I want to make this easier for
my family. Like that is so heavy. Did you end
up having the surgery or treatment?

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (32:22):
So me and my mom and my dad obviously some
of my brothers came right away to like pick me
up in the airport. And my mom she's a legend.
I love her so much, but she is super spiritual.
So she was like she looked at me like I
was already did. She was like, we're gonna be together soon,
and we're gonna like be in this like realm of

(32:43):
like and my dad is so upset, he's like shot
up fog off.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
She's not going anywhere, Like.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yeah, my dad was the one to give the PS
fight in resolving who was gonna like it was a nightmare.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Nobody wanted to do the surgery.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
I need it, Like we had to like get someone
from like fresh Heel or some shit to like attempt it.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
And he decided to do one part to make it.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Like less dangerous or like whatever, and do one part,
do six months of chemotherapy, to another part, do six
months of chemotherapy, and do the third part and then
like finish like around like eight months ters nine of
chemotherapy until it was like fully in remission, which doesn't

(33:29):
mean it's fully gone. It just means like stops growing
and then you have contrast for a lot of years
until you decide is fine. So it was it was
a lot like you know, like I think it's crazy,
but there was when you find out you're gonna die,
it's more steadiling than when you find out you're going

(33:51):
to have to put your whole like him past.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
For a year and a half or two years, you know.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
So.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Because you know, like it like when I say to you, like, oh, yeah,
it's just gonna be six months, You're like, oh, yeah,
that's short, but it's for the time you're like sitting
on a chair, you know, putting poison.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Through your vein like every day. That is like an
endless nightmare. So it was. It was really hard. I
was not good. I was not in a good place either.
I was not.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Like I quit treatment like three times five times through it.
I was like forget, I'd rather die ice over it, like,
you know, like it was like I was in a
tough place. It was hard for me to deal with
the fact that I had to lead that, Like I
don't I don't think I ever thought I was gonna
have to go through an experience. It was like like

(34:49):
so hard, you know, but it was very formative in
the end, and it did teach me a lot of
things about life that I think I took for granted
for a really long time. But yeah, I think it
was like, you know, like being ill and feeling fragile

(35:09):
and not being able to go outside and feel or eat.
I couldn't eat for ham along, you know, like solids,
which was like a fucking nightmare. Like it's like when
those things are taken away from you, it's really hard
to stay positive, to stay in a place where you're

(35:29):
grounded enough to be like no I'm going to choose
my life today every day, you know. And I was
really really lucky that I had people around me who
was like, no, you're doing this, you know, we believe
there's a better side for you.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
So you're doing it. And if it.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Wasn't for all those persons in my life at the time,
they able to make it.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
So incredibly difficult.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
And I can't even imagine, like you said, managing your
mental health during that. So with all of that that
you made it through the support of everyone, beat the odds,
did the work came out the other side. Where are
you at right now in your journey? And how are
you handling your mental health and your physical health?

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Physical health is I just SKay every day as much
as I can. I eat pretty healthy, I hang out
a lot with my close friends, my boyfriend that like
people that actually loved me and take care of me
and cares for me.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
And then I feel good around myself.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
And and mentally, I think I have learned to be
way more open with my surround people, you know, like
which was like a struggle for me.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
And growing up. I meditate, like pretty often, I write
a diary.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
I have diaries of like the last three years of
my life, like day by day, and and I don't know,
I feel like just skating in general is just good
for me. It's like a great COVID mechanism for me.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Right now. I'm not going to therapy, to be honest.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Like I I haven't since I moved to the to
the States.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
But I went through like a lot of years.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
I actually, like, I don't know, I did a treatment
with a psychiatrist with like mushrooms that was fucking life changing.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
And it honestly is something.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Like sometimes you know, otherres certain things that we adjust
like after like intense periods. You know, you have to think,
like I was pretty much two years like in bed
just doing therapy, you know, so I was like looking
forward to like not talk any more.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
I just think it's amazing that you've just like done
the work physically and mentally to just rebuild and be
a better version of yourself.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
It's the kind of thing that.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
It's like it was so painful and so terrible, but
it really sucks ask to say, like I think I
needed that.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
It's horrible, but I think I did at the time.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Well, go, what what are you chasing right now? What
are we working on what kind of tricks are we
working on? Get me up to speed with the what's
on the goal list for you?

Speaker 4 (38:22):
So I'm finishing this part. Uh, it's it's been. It's
been kind of a trip the last couple of months
with it. But just finishing this will be the main
goal at the moment. You know, I'm excited to get
like more footage here in New York and to maybe

(38:43):
give it like a different look compared to just a
But I never made like a part here in the States.
You know, I don't even have like in my other parts.
I don't even have tricks here, which is is fun
and it makes it different for me, and I'm excited
for that.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
But besides that, like.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
I don't know, I I'm looking for more certainty in
my life. I am kind of like in conversation with
some word brands.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Maybe hopefully that eventually, you know, tell.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Me about your dream board brand, Like who who do
you want to find a home with?

Speaker 1 (39:21):
No, that's like saying you're crashing naturing it.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
I can't what. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Sometimes I think it's good to say things. What if
I name the board brands and you just nod your head.
If they're the ones that you want to write for.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
I want to know.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
But yeah, literally everyone listening right now. Katadas needs a
permanent home. Should make a great addition to your team.
And can you tell me what where's this part gonna live?
Who's this part for?

Speaker 1 (39:49):
I don't know yet either.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
I think, like, well, we send it to a couple max,
you know, but it was not fully finish, so it's
impossible to know where really right now, you know.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
And this is a solo part, just a Catadilla's solo album.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, one solo album.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
The parts in the works. We're ready to see it.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
The board brand is gonna call your number soon enough.
You're in New York City. Vibes are high. You're shepherding
Nicole through hell and back right now. And that's Nicole
has for who we're talking about. I'm super excited to
hang with you on some trips this summer. Is there
anything on your calendar that you're looking forward to?

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Trip wise?

Speaker 4 (40:31):
We have the Loop trip at the end of August,
I think, which you should come definitely.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Definitely. We're going to Montreal, I think, and we have
coming back and open that's right.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Wait, are you still in a sif I'm still in
a SIF, but I'm reporting right now from La. Been
hanging out with the Galleys skating being a skater. It's
been super fun and everyone just like I feel like
LA is like really lonely or really abundant, and right
now it's abundant. Everybody's like hitting up the phone being like,
let's skate. Let's go like every day to the point

(41:06):
where I'm like, I can't actually keep up on this
level daily.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
But it's been great.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
So I'm down here right now, but I'll get back
up to SF at some point. And you are on
Good Luck with That, which is a podcast about skateboarding.
I want to know what you kind of need some
luck with. Is there anything you need luck to put
out into the world.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah, I mean the session today. I hope I get
the trade on trying.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Okay, where's the session? What's the trick?

Speaker 4 (41:36):
I think I have to tell you one or the
other because then if not, it's full for my part.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Tell me the trick.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Oh, okay, okay, Well I'm with you today, sending all
of my energy thanks to the East Coast. Well, thank
you so much, Katadiaz for joining Good Luck with That.
We're so lucky to have you with us. And where
can our listeners find you on the internet? How do
we become your forever fan if they're not already following you?

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Samdad sk And that's it, all.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Right, you heard the marching orders.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
All right everyone, I'll be back here next week with
the whole gang. We'll be doing kind of more of
a news desk, catching up on parts dropping what's going
on in women's skateboarding, gender expansive skateboarding worldwide. You can
find us at good Luck Pod on Instagram. I encourage
you to just like hit us up, let us know
what's going on of what you think about the show,

(42:31):
what we're missing, what we're doing right, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
We'd love to hear from you. So yeah, we're there
and we'll see you all next week.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
Good Luck with That is an iHeart women's sports production
in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment.

Speaker 7 (42:46):
We are your hosts Ashley Rayfeld, Nora bas Gonslos, Alex White,
and Mimi New Our executive producer is Jesse Katz, supervising
producer Tari Harrison, video producer Daniel Goodman, and video production
by School of Humans. This podcast was created by Ashley Raefeld.
Listen to Good Luck with That, a skateboarding podcast, on
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