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June 18, 2024 11 mins

Mitch Moss and Pauly Howard react to the Boston Celtics winning the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Follow the Money.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
That's why I say you always follow. Yeah, yeah, this
is Follow the Money with Mitch Moss and Paully Howard
on VSON.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hey, Top of the morning to you. It is Follow
the Money here on VCENT, the Sports Betty Network. This
show is brought to you by DraftKings, Mitch Moss, Paully Howard.
We're live in Vegas, maybe from the Circa Resort, a casino.
Big show lined up today, a little bit of everything, right,
I mean NBA Finals, Stanley Cup, Major League Baseball. Paul
Skens went again yesterday, we have NFL, we have Euro's
twenty college football Tay Paul Stone on the show. Oh yeah,

(00:33):
So we're gonna run the table here and we'll begin
with last night the new champs right the Coronation in
Boston last night, as the Celtics are your twenty twenty
four NBA. We talk about this all the time, right,
like and we did last week. Like the best teams
rarely meet to play for a championship, and a lot
of times that also means that the best team in

(00:53):
a certain sport in a certain year doesn't win the title. Well,
certainly that was not the case last night. In this
year in the NBA, and good for them, they finally
won a title. They got there, this young corp who
had been close in years past. They were the best
team in the regular season and they were certainly the
best team in the postseason. And they went out in
fashioned last night by taking down the Mavericks in a

(01:13):
blowout in a game that was never close, in a
series that was bad, and in a playoffs that was abysmal.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
So it was a bad way to end the season
in terms of drama and entertainment. But the Boston Celtics
deserved their first championship with this corps, and Brad Stevens
deserves a ton of credit for putting it together Number eighteen.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Hello Nessen, we love you. And they won.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
They went eighty and twenty one this year and sixteen
and three in the playoffs. So yeah, you can point
to injuries and yeah butt, but they were They were
a phenomenal team and a great team, and you just
saw the depth and how many weapons they had and
it showed last night. I mean, you get nine and
nine from Horford, Holiday was great, Brown and Tatum. You
don't even need much from Porzingis White, The Assassin knocking

(01:55):
down threes.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
And now I.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Don't know if they make these moves. If they beat
them Mindami heat and then lose to the Nuggets in
the finals, I don't know if he does that. But
what Stevens did to trade Smart, which was criticized at
the time because he was a fan favorite and hustle
guy and in one defensive Player of the Year to
get poor Zingis you're.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Bigg by the way along with that is that poor
Zingis had a ton of question marks.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah. True, but then then you also your big boy
is getting holiday and shipping out Brogden and time Lord.
So that was that a lot of people would have said,
you don't do anything even though you lost the conference
finals and you lose in seven of Miami.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
But he went for and they finally end.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
The drought and the Boston drought without a championship, and
was a great move by Stevens. In full marks to Missoula.
I was worried about crunch time and what happened with
this with Brown and Tatum? Could they ever do it?
And certainly Missoula pushed all the right buttons and they
loved him as well. But to your earlier point, yikes,
we had eight series that were five games or fewer.

(02:54):
It was a phenomenal regular season.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
But these play a.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Boston sweeps in the conference finals, Dallas wins, an they
take out Dallas in five. Game one's a blowout. This
one's a blowout. Game four was a blowout. Game three,
Boston's up twenty one in the fourth quarter. We also
had a seven game series with Minnesota and Denver, but
we went seven, but the games were terrible with all
the blowouts. We could not catch a break with these playoffs.

(03:18):
And but full marks to Boston and no doubt and
no doubt, and there's certainly going to be a force
to be reckoned with for years if they keep this
group together.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Well here here's how good of a job well Stevens
was at putting it together, but also how they actually
played on the court together. Last night in the MVP race,
it's and it's you know, you don't know how this
is going to go with the war voters overall. But
when Holliday started off the game like he did last night,
he plummeted down to like eight to one to win
the MVP. And then it was going back and forth

(03:47):
between Brown and Tatum and Tatum turned into a five
dollars favorite in the second half to win the MVP.
So you know, you could have picked between like three
guys to win the award. That's how That's how good
they were at the top, but also how overall I think,
like just I think they were pretty deep team. Like
I think Howser is good. I think Pritcherck can play
a little bit here and there. You know, so they

(04:07):
have like the core six. I mean, it's amazing what
they were able to do for an entire season. But
then the guys behind them aren't bad either, And I
eventually think that the voters got it right. I didn't
have a dog in the race. I was on Derek
White from the first round and that was dead after
Game two of the NBA Finals.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, but we had a shot though, when look how
it played out. Brown averaged twenty five and five. If
you tell me he's going to average that for the series,
I said, we got a great shot here.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Well, White, Yeah, I also, but as this thing was
playing out live, I don't think we had a chance
to win that after Game two because Porzingis played so
well in game one, Holiday was incredible in Game two,
and then it was a dogfight between Tatum and Brown
and the voters. It went seven to four the votes
in terms of Brown over Tatum last night, and I
would not have had a problem. In fact, on the

(04:52):
show yesterday, I was pointing out that at plus two
fifty five, Tatum could make a run at that award,
and he was, well, if he gets a tr that
maybe game changer that right.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
I was going for it.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
He did whatever he could win that award last night.
Don't kid yourself, yep. But I actually tipped my cap
to the voters because they said, no, this is a
series long award and Jalen Brown was the key player.
And I agree with him winning the award. And by
the way, I got to go back to last year
when he signed that extension three hundred million dollars. I
called it the worst contract at all of sports. At

(05:25):
the time. He could not dribble with his left hand.
He was unreliable in big games. Yeah, and credit to
that guy because he did not go out and get
fat and happy after signing that contract for that much money.
He got better and he deserved to win the NBA
Finals MVP.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah, I agree with all that.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
You know, certainly he was also aggressive for much of
the playoffs and he was phenomenal. He was also good
tweets from Evan Abrams. He was six to one to
win MVP. It's a third time, only the third time
in the last twenty years someone won it outside of.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
The top two.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
When you look at the favorites and betting favorites and
last forty years, Lois come by nine points rebounds and
assists Brown thirty one point two, Chauncey billups and four,
twenty nine point four Kawhi and fourteen.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Iguadala and fifteen. He had the lay.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
He was twenty six point one, So this is for
him to go twenty five and five and win it again.
It's only the fourth lowest in the last forty years.
So but again, they had so many guys that can
score in so many ways to beat you, but you
didn't get a phenomenal performance from uh Luca or Dallas
and the others were terrible. And the thing, the big

(06:33):
story is every game went under and every night they
took over money. They bet the over again last week
night from two oh nine and a half up to
two to eleven and a half in.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
No shot that moved two points at a lot of
different shops last night, and again I went back and looked,
it's not even the same sport what we just watched
in the NBA Finals compared to the regular season. Think
about this for a second. In this season, it completely
flipped after they kind of changed how they were going
to approach it with the referees and calling the games.
They played with totals of two thirty seven and two

(07:04):
forty one of the games went over, the other game
had two hundred and twenty nine points combined, and in
the fast forward to now, they're playing in games between
two eleven and a half and two seventeen and a
half and not one game could go over.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
It's not even the same planet we're talking about here. Yeah, yep,
staggering and all.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
They just would not stop betting the over, and they
continue to do it, and they continue to get beat
in good call with the ladder too when the Celtics
blow them out, lay the ault numbers, lego the ladder
with the Celtics and result and that was absolutely So
what do you think of next year? Because number one,
when you enter the finals and you're a two dollars

(07:43):
favorite to higher, you're twenty eight and four straight up.
But thirty eight of the last forty years, the team
that's won the title has entered the season twenty to
one odds or or better or lower. So you don't well,
I pointed to a great regular season. Minnesota was eighty
to one. Okay, see was a big price one seed,
Dallas thirty two to one in April, and they make

(08:07):
it as a five seed. So he had some big
tickets out there. But it's just hard. It's hard to
cast these big boys. And again that is staggering thirty
to the last forty years.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
It's going to be.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Someone who's in that and that to top contender list
that's going to win the title.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, out of the East, I don't know if we
have a true contender that can be there in battle
Boston to the wire.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
I want to see a healthy KNXT team.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
That's the team I was going to go with because
I don't this is the most important offseason for the
Milwaukee Bucks they've had. Yeah, I don't know how what
they're going to do to cobble this team together and
you know, come up with a true challenger for Boston.
I can't trust the seventy six ers at all because
of Embiid's health. The number one team that I would
look at is if they can stay healthy, would be
the Knicks. I think they're probably the second best team

(08:51):
in the East if they can stay healthy and in
the West. This is not hindsight. We talked about this,
so this is a little bit of March maddus. When
you get some upsets, eventually the team that does that
fit fizzles out. I would have rather had the Lakers
in the finals in the Dallas Mavericks. I would not
have said that before the final started, but the way
that played out, that's results based. Absolutely. I fully admit

(09:11):
that this is not results based. I would have rather
had OKC, Minnesota or Denver without question. We got robbed
with no Nuggets. We got robbin Denver blue that twenty
point game at half in the second half, no doubt.
And this is the second by the way, it should
have been the second straight year we had Celtic's Denver
because Boston blew it last year.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
They did any huge favorites against Miami, No way they
should have lost that series. And this is why we
love sports. Sometimes you can't explain this stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
PJ.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Washington against Okac was the biggest outlier you're ever gonna see.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Oh, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
For three games he couldn't miss and lit it up
and was a big reason why they won that series.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
That's the reason why I had to rip up my
OKC futures. Yeah, incredible, now, bos, I'll never forget that.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Boston's gonna beat a big okay see, but still would
have been competitive. But this is It's just Kyrie was terrible,
Washington was terrible, Jones was terrible. Lively didn't show up
till late in the series. I mean, as does the
do you have no chance if that's gonna happen? Said,
and then Lucas starts off with you know, one assist
and no one helped him out in game one. So
that's why other than the blowout in game four, that

(10:13):
was all she wrote. The Dallas also should have won
Game two though as well. They blew that game and
once they went down, oh to forget it, and uh
but you know, congratulations and uh we'll see if Dallas Dallas.
You have to reload now. But this is a stacked
Western Conference. I mean, you're gonna you mentioned it. Jows back,
Memphis gets everyone back, Houston's gonna be better the Lakers.

(10:36):
The Lakers are still going to be a problem.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
What if the Spurs had one or two players in
the season. I know the West is completely loaded, the
East the exact opposite.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Sure, what if.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Paul George goes to Philadelphia, I mean that's what if
Paul George goes to Orlando. I mean there's stuff like
that where maybe even Harden goes back to the six
or something like that. Who knows, but it's uh, but
it's certainly gonna be gonna be tough in the West.
And I know you mentioned Doug Kazarian was is on
with Matt and west coming and about people be sleeping
on the Nuggets.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
I think I think that's true as well.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, I think Denver can really bounce back next year
and make a huge deep run again and be even
better than what they were this year. But the West,
like one through ten, is going to be really really good. Yeah,
you know, I'm glad you brought up Orlando. If they
could add a piece or two.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
They will. They have money, Yeah, yeah, they do.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
I think Magic. The Magic might be the most dangerous
team that nobody's going to talk about an Eastern Conference anyway,
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