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June 5, 2023 41 mins

From Party of Five to Mean Girls, Lacey Chabert was a staple of the 90’s and she’s got great stories to prove it! 

Find out how she grew up on the show, while her character was experiencing things before she got to them in real life. 

Plus, everyone shares their IRL mean girl stories.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey Dude the Nineties called.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
With Christine Taylor and David Lasher.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, everybody, welcome back to another episode of Hey Dude
the Nineties called.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm David, Hi David, I'm Christine. It's good to see you.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
What's up. I'm wearing a pink sweatshirt.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Around for those who are listening, I mean, I'm sure
by this point, if you're listening, there will probably already
have been a photo of what the two of us
look like right now in honor of our guest. You know,
we're both wearing pink. David is a very bit baby

(00:40):
pale pink sweatshirt tied around his shoulders, looking adorable. And
I have a very like shocking hot pink sweater wrapped
around my shoulders. It's very neon, I know. And I
have a lot of other little pink things. I just
didn't have enough notice to pull them.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, you know, when Lorraine said you guys should wear
pink for When Day, I had never seen Mean Girls.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I well, exactly, because you're a dude. However, you do
have daughters and.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
They love the movie. And I can't believe I never
saw it, but I just watched. I watched an hour
of it this morning, and they they invite Lacey our
guests to come have lunch with them, and they go, oh,
on Wednesdays, we all wear pink. Exit and then click,
I'm like, oh, that's why she wants to Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Now, I mean, let's let's set for the record that
you know that they were mean girls who would only
wear pink. We're not mean people doing this. We're doing
this in honor of a an iconic movie. But I
was a victim of one of those like mean girl
things back.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
In the day of who Wasn't I'll go find alcoholic.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Right, I know, I know, but it was. You know,
here's the thing. I feel like we've talked. We talked
about this, I think a little bit with Alisa when
we had her on and you know, you have daughters.
I have a daughter. I don't know how much we've
evolved as a society when it comes to teenage, high
school and teenagers, and there's there's always mean girls, there's

(02:15):
always mean boys. There's always mean people right in school.
That I mean, I'm seeing it through my kids. I
mean there's.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Always Yeah, but I think they've gotten meaner, do you think. Well, listen,
that movie was there's other.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Ways to get to be mean nowadays, right.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
There's more inventive ways to trap people and believe but listen,
that movie was supposed to be a parody, how I
feel like it's our society looked at it like, oh,
I want to be one of those?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Well, yes, right, And and Heathers sort of was the
precursor to that too, which Heathers was sort of like
our generation, right, like we I almost feel like maybe
you show maybe the first time I saw Hew Theres
might have been with you.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Is that possible with Christian Slater doing his best Jack Nicholson.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yes, So it felt like Heather's was sort of they
were sort of like the og mean girls. And then
Tina Fey did a very creative version of you know
because I was the very dark version of it, but
so good.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
And the one scene where Rachel McAdams calls Lindsay Lohan
and says, uh, you know, their mutual friend told me
you have a crush on my ex boyfriend. Aren't you
mad at her? Because that's a really bitchy thing to do,
And and and the girls on three way listening to the.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Phone call exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
My first three way attack.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
We're gonna have to talk to uh, to Lacey about it,
because it really is iconic. I mean, she's you know,
we'll talk to her all about that stuff. But yeah,
I really was a of one of those mean girl things.
And it wasn't even high school it was. It was
elementary school. And by the way, we were all guilty

(04:09):
of it at the time. I mean we were like ten, eleven, twelve,
I don't know, maybe eleven.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Or twelve year.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yes, of course. I mean I don't think I always
I went out. I don't think I went out of
my way to be but I think sometimes like you
get caught up in something and you can see it
much clearer now. But I yeah, I just remember it
was a very It was very similar to the wearing pink.
It was. It was like all the girls said, we're

(04:37):
all wearing like and by the way, this is pre
heathers also too, so this was just like you know, manifested,
you know, in the I don't know, microcosm of Catholic
school boredom probably, and and I remember the girls saying,
we're all wearing ponytails tomorrow with white ribbons in our hair.

(04:58):
Ponytails with white ribbons, and like everybody was clocking it.
And then another friend came up to me and said,
that's not what's happening. Everybody's wearing duck shoes tomorrow, but
they're not telling you, and you're going to be the
only one wearing what is Dutch. By the way, this
is also another very like niche any go to the

(05:23):
ll Bean catalog. They had these like they were called
like duck shoes. They were like rain rain shoes. Kind
of this is not nineties, guys, this is eighties because
I'm old. But no, they were like you could get
them in blue and green. They were kind of like,
I don't want to say Jelly's, I don't know, but
they were like rubber shoes essentially, but they are kind

(05:44):
of cool at the time. You got them from the
ll Bean catalog and they were I think they were
also in the Preppy Handbook, which was very popular at
the time too. There was a preppy handbook which was
also sort of very tongue in cheek, but I think
my friends and I took it very seriously. You were
I was a preppy but yeah, but I had a
friend who gave me the red Alert who was basically

(06:06):
she told me that it was a con and I
was gonna wear the white ribbon, and they were all
gonna be wearing duck shoes and so and I got
ahead of it. And I don't even remember what I did.
I don't remember how I handled such catastrophe in my life.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Wow, well set up before they got you.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
I had a friend on the inside. I had a
good I had a good one on the inside.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
We have a thirteen year old and I got to
tell you, everyone in our house is scared of her.
It's a crazy age. They have no inhibitions at all.
I mean, they just say whatever they want. They will
go for the jugular.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
It's like, it's so funny that you said that, because
having a living with a teenage girl, everyone tiptoes on
eggshells around. Everyone is afraid of saying the wrong thing,
of walking in and having the wrong look on your face,
of the wrong food being cooked, and god forbid, it
doesn't smell good. I mean, your character, did you exactly?

(07:10):
That character is so great?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Will you shut up and stop talking?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
No, it is a genius.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Lindsay Leyan walks into Rachel mcadam's bedroom. She goes this,
I love your bedroom. She goes yeah, it was my parents.
I made them switch with she got the mass.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Oh my gosh. But yes, yeah, you are. You know it.
You're living it. You are in it. You are still
in it. I'm out of it. I feel like I've
I've come out on the other side. I survived years.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Everyone should live with a teenage girl at one point
in their life. It builds, It builds character, It thickens
your skin, makes you stronger. You know, someone once told
me this is hilario. You'll love this because you're a
sports fan that being a parent of a teenage girl
is like being an athlete at a visiting stadium where

(08:05):
the crowd is screaming at you, suck, You're the worst,
get the hell out of here, right, and they're just like,
I don't hear you. I don't hear you exactly.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Oh that is such a good analogy. I love it.
It's so perfect. Yeah, because you really do just have
to learn to ignore it and move through it and
just let it.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Don't react to it. Do you react to it?

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Do not react at.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
All, and it just gets worse.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
That just ignites the flame, lights the fire. But yeah,
that is uh, this, this, this will be really fun
to talk to Lacey because I still also see her.
I mean that movie. She is fully grown up, but
I still have the memories of her from Party five
with that little baby face. I mean, she was, you know, young,

(08:56):
she was you know, not a baby, but she was
just was so young. And so I really want to
hear since you know, we've got such great insight from
Scott on what it was like being on that set,
you know, when he was older, you know, for Lacey,
who really grew up on it, will be will be
really uh great to hear about. And then I spotted

(09:19):
another really great little credit on her. Well, it's I
had no idea she was in the Broadway production of
A Lady. You were going to say that anytime there's
a musical theater credit speaking, Oh she's here, she's here,
So we'll we'll we'll put we'll put a pin in

(09:41):
my musical theater segue for another time. Let's invite her in.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I think she'll notice our.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Should we just say, I know, it was totally Hi, Hi, Lacy,
we're we're we're dressed for you.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
And oh my gosh, it's Wednesday. I totally oh my gosh,
I forgot you guys are on it.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
You don't need to do that. You don't need to
do that. You're well past that. You probably have gorgeous
and purple you accent. It's a perfect accent for our pink.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
This probably gives you PTSD right. We always wear pink.
And you are invited to have lunch with us.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Oh my gosh, I can totally sit with you guys.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Thank you, yes, thank you so much for joining us.
We know how busy you are, and we were just
both talking about I mean really like we went on
and on about mean girls to start, which we'll get
into that. But I still see your face on Party
of five, Like, I still see like you, you have

(10:52):
the exact same face. You're just now a beautiful young woman,
but it's you grew up on that show.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
You're so sweet. Thank you. I did. I was eleven
to seventeen, So it's pretty much every phase, teenage phase
you know that a young woman goes through. And when
I think back on it now as a mom, especially now,
like I am so lucky that I was surrounded by
such wonderful people. Everyone was so kind and nurturing and

(11:20):
just helped me through those you know, awkward teenage years
and I have the best memories from the show.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, those those are a big years. Eleven to seventeen.
We were just talking about I have a thirteen year
old daughter, and I was telling me seeing that we're
all like scared of her. You know, they're very dangerous.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
It's a dangerous breed.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, you neque years, but you know you were working
probably twelve hour days and like a professional, and yes,
surrounded by you know, Scott and all those amazing people.
It's like, so, would you are you happy you had
those years on set or do you feel like you
missed out.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
I'm really happy I had those years on set.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
You know.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
I have so many memories from the show. And yeah,
it was a little bit of a different way of
growing up, and not everyone could relate to it. But
like I was saying before, they were the best people,
and it was. It was interesting because sometimes my character
would go through things in life on the show that
I had yet to actually go through in life, you know,
like my first kiss and all of this kind of

(12:24):
embarrassing stuff. But everyone around me was so sweet about it,
and I just I loved I loved every part of it.
I was heartbroken when the show ended, but The good
news is so many of us are still very very
very close. You know, they're they're a part of my
life now, and it's been nice to grow up together
and become parents, most of us together, and you know,

(12:47):
go through different phases of life together.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
That's so wonderful.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
We had Scott on twice. We had a reunion of
the movie White Squall Oh, which I did with Scott
with the whole cast, and then Scott came back as
his own guests, and he told this story about the
Party of Five was originally supposed to be like an
animal house, like a like a kid's frat house with

(13:13):
no parents, and not the you know, drama, you know,
the serious show that it became. Did you ever hear that?

Speaker 4 (13:21):
I don't think I knew that as a kid on
this show. I've definitely heard that in years since. But
I mean, the show was very dramatic, and you know,
obviously very the characters were also vulnerable and they were
all going through very real things, and the show tackled
a lot of really real, you know, mature issues, and
I appreciate it so much now, especially looking back, but

(13:44):
I did then too just how good the writing was.
It was so well written, and.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
That's exactly everything Scott said.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yeah I really did he yeah, yeah, yes, I love
him so much. But it was just so well written.
And you know, I occasionally I'll see an episode online
or something here or there, and I'll be like, oh,
I forgot about that scene or and yet there's those
scenes that I could probably recite for you right now.
I'm sure you guys feel that way about your eye
over the years.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yes, where something stays with you or some something that
you drilled and drilled right the audition scene.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
It's always the audition scene. I think I remember every
audition scene for everything I've ever auditioned for it.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Do you find that when you audition for something and
then you don't get it and you see it, you
see the movie or the TV show or whatever it is,
and then you're like, audition scene, that was the audition,
Like you immediately peg it or you can you can
actually pull it out, even if it's not something you
auditioned for. You always know you're like, oh, that was
definitely the that was like.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
The big scene or the meati scene or the really
funny scene, totally exactly.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
It was a good time to give a shout out
to the writers, right, I.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
Mean, yeah, supporting the writers all the way.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Of course, Party of Five, you guys, you went there,
I mean, and in the nineties, you know, there was
a lot of like nine O two one zero they

(15:15):
went there as well. But there were shows that were,
you know, really poppy, pure entertainment, and then there was
Party of Five. That was one of the first that
I remember with young people that like explored really serious issues.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah, yeah, and it was I learned so much on
the show. I mean, I remember the first time I
had to cry in a scene. I had never had
to do that before. I was eleven years old, and
it was hard, you know, and I realized that as
looking back, I'm like, I had to kind of come
up with my own process of like how to make
that happen. But I loved that challenge, and again because
it was so well written, it made it so much easier.

(15:54):
And you know, my character grew up on the show
just as I was in real life.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
I remember going with Scott on the Fox lot, right,
there was a lot going on there. That's that was
a fun place to work.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah, that was where we auditioned, I think, and I
think we were on the Fox that when they told
us that we all got the part, which is really
nice that never really happens. Usually that they tell you
in person, you know, and they like fall into the
room and they're like, you are sallengers.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
It's like and Scott said, you all looked around and
you were like, yeah, we are. We kind of like
you could all see it. You had already felt it
from you know, some of the chemistry reads, and you
just kind of looked like a family. He said, it really,
you know, so special.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
True.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yeah, And then we filmed the show on the Sony
lot and so we were there for six years and
every time I go on the lot, I think about
you know, it just brings back all those memories.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
But before that, so before that, and this was something
that I spotted with David right before you came on
that you know, as a musical theater. Yeah, lover slash
Ner like I see everything. I love it all the
David would always make fun of me that I didn't
know any like rock music. When we first met as teenagers.

(17:02):
Everything was show tunes.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Show tunes. I mean Amy Grant's right, I love it.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
I loved it. I loved love it, And yeah, the
best but Broadway and Cosette and there's a voice in
there or do you tell us how that happened? And
also do you still do it? Do you still sing
and do musical theateral? I don't.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
I don't really sing that much professionally, but it's something
that is deep down in side of my heart, you know,
And I think I would like to sing in something
in the future. I definitely, you know, would need to
get back in vocal shape and all of that stuff.
But yeah, it was a huge part of my life.
I grew up in the South. I'm from Mississippi, and
you know, I did like pageants and would sing in them.

(17:47):
It's just what everyone did at that time. And I
saw you.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
On a clip on Star Search and it could be
the cutest thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Stop.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
I was like, what were singing?

Speaker 4 (17:59):
I was singing? Oh my goodness, I think I sang
happy Days are here again?

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Like yeah, to play for you? Right? Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
All the memories always coming back around. And I mean
I would sing in church, I'd sing in school plays
and I just loved singing. And my grandmother would drive
me and my sisters to voice lessons when we were
really little. So when we moved to New York and started,
you know, doing commercials and things in the business. I
was about seven or eight and I auditioned for the
Lame as a rob. I think I got just a

(18:30):
couple of times before I got it, and then was
in the show for about two and a half years.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
And wow, did a Broadway show for two and a
half years.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah, Like there were other kids there, so we would alternate,
you know, so we didn't go on, you know, every
single show, but we'd go and just hang out and
play backstage, which was the best. But on my tenth birthday,
I walk into the theater. I've got cupcakes and that
my mom made for me. She dropped me off. I
mean this is before cell phones, you know, And I
run in and both of the boys who played gavrosh

(19:00):
are out sick last minute, so they put my hair
in a hat and I went on as.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Garbage boyd you just knew you knew the part?

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Well, I knew. I had just become the under study
like maybe a month before, so I just I knew
the music because I heard it every night and every day,
but I just had started to learn the choreography. So
the cast was just amazing and they just like, would
whisper in my ear tell me where to go and
what to do? And he has this really amazing, tragic
and heartbreaking part. But I think about that moment a

(19:31):
lot in life as an adult. I'm like, if I
could rise to the challenge when I was ten years old,
I think I can. I can handle this moment absolutely.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, that's like going to war, I mean, but you're
too young to be scared, right, Like.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah, that's that self conscious as much, right, self awareness.
You kind of just you're there, You're fearless, fun and
you're fearless.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Remember.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Oh, that is the coolest that is that That is
like everybody's kind of worst you know, nightmare in your
dream that that happens and in the dream you don't
know the lyrics and choreography, and then the dream all
bad things happened, but it magically happened for it. That's
really cool.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Really. That song Castle on a Cloud, right, that's on
a cloud?

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, I sing most Beautiful a thousand times.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
I think probably I have the best memories from the show,
And you know what, I think it's what taught me
like a good work ethic, so really be part of
a team and to understand how important every single person
is and that you have to do your part and
show up, you know, for everyone else's sake. Also, and
I think I've carried that with me throughout my career.
So I'm really thankful for that lesson.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, starting in theater is I think the best thing
to do, because you you do learn the work ethic,
but you learn the camaraderie and how to support each other. Yeah,
and it obviously propelled you. Let's talk about me and girls.

(21:04):
I mean, yeah, I had never seen it, but my
daughters are huge fans of the movie, so I watched.
I watched most of the movie this morning, and man,
you guys were mean, like really.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Awful, I know, really awful, right, but also a little
misunderstood and also.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
You know, insecure, right.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Yeah, sure, and all the things. But it's such a
universal theme. I mean, I don't think you have to
be in high school to relate to that movie. Like,
there's so much in it that we relate to it
all stages of our lives. And I think there's such
a good message in that movie. And you know, that
was just another thing that I auditioned for. I love
the script I thought it was amazing. You know, you
go on lots of auditions not expecting to hear anything

(21:48):
back and lo and behold, I get this job and
it ends up being one of the best experiences ever.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
And that has lived on.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
I mean that is it's a Broadway show.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
Also talking about right, I saw the show I think
three years ago, and it was amazing. It was so
well done.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
It is. Yeah, it was wonderful. It was such a
fun musical. And now they're i think, making the movie
of the musical. Yes, like they did with Hairspray. They
did that with hair Spray.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Also, they take a movie, they make it into a musical,
and then they they.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Make it back into a musical movie. They did it
with Hairspray too. Yes, yeah, you can't. Yes. Basically, the
world needs more mean girls in every way, shape and form,
it seems.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
The thing is, though it was a satirical script from
what I saw this morning when I watched it, but
I feel like I feel like people or the audience
looked at it and wanted to be the mean girl
as opposed to you know, the mirror reflection of like,
oh my god, we're horrible as society. I feel like

(23:01):
the girls admired the Mean Girls the audience.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
I mean maybe in some ways, but I hope not
in a all the ways for sure. But yeah, I
think it's a movie that you find yourself in some
character you know, or or find like, oh I was
like that in high school, or I knew someone like
that in high school. Like there, it is very, very relatable.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
But the end of the day, or even the mom
Amy Poehler, who's just like trying to win her you know,
trying to please her daughter at all costs, right, and
the daughters like shut up and stop.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
Talking whenever she was in a scene. A Really, I
have a really hard time not laughing. I'm always the
one that breaks first, and there's no I can't come back,
And anytime she was around or Tina, I mean the
whole past, I just with tears rolling down my cheeks laughing.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
How many years out of Party five had you been
before Mean Girls or sort of right after?

Speaker 4 (23:58):
I know it was a few years. I was seventeen
Party if I've ended and I turned twenty one on
set of filming Mean Girls. Oh great, Yeah, so it
was a cut.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
A great way to transition off of a long running show.
I mean what I mean, what a great role that was.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah, it was such a great role. It was such
a gift, and you know what it's I mean, it's
a hard transition, you know, to go from being a
kid to a young adult and trying to figure out
what types of roles should I be playing, and coming
from such a serious show, you know, I didn't know
as much about comedy, so I learned a lot. And
I wonderful director Mark Waters, and I ended up working
with him again in Ghosts of Girlfriends Past, where I

(24:35):
got to play bride who was consumed with a perfect
wedding and just really fun. I've enjoyed all of it.
People always ask me like, what's your favorite thing? Would
you want to do more theater or TV or and
I just love I've had good experiences in all in
all the ways, so I hope I get to do
more of all of it.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah. It was a great cast too, man, you know, Lindsay, Rachel,
Amanda Everybody's you know, was like top of their game.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Yeah, they're all so wonderful. We have a lot of
really good friendships.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
From the movie. You have kids.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
I have a six year old daughter. Yeah, and she
washed kindergarten and she's you know, she's man, she's the best.
I could gush all day. I won't, but she's the
light of my life. Of course. But you know, you
talked about your teenage daughters or do you have two.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Daughters or I do? I have one in college and
a thirteen year old, but yeah, six years old is
like you just want to eat them all delicious.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yes, she's the best. But I think I do some
days get a glimpse of what the teenagers might be
and it's like, oh boy.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Oh yeah, well they're also you know, today, I feel
like there's so much more mature. I mean girls, I
think naturally are you know that they mature much quicker.
But I found like I was having these intellectual conversations
about I remember with my daughter, she would just say

(25:59):
she would really, you know, do a like do a
power point for for Ben and I of why we
should get a pig. And it was a full power
point and I was like a pig, pet pig, a
pet pig. She wanted a pet piggy And I remember
she really wanted to prove like she she was so
intellectual about it. She gave us facts about how smart

(26:22):
they are about how clean they are. She did all
and she was I kid you not. She was like
six or seven when she did a full power point presentation,
not that elet you get a pig. She did not win,
and I kind of wish that she had though that.
But pigs live a really long time. So I said,
you'll be like out of the house and married and

(26:42):
I'll still be the one. So we're not doing the pig.
We're not doing.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
To keep you company when I'm yes, exactly, I.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Know what you think around My daughter is the same way. There.
No is not an answer every exactly very explained exactly why,
and then there are follow up questions. Sometimes you're just like, Okay.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
The answer is no, right, I know. Sometimes it just
has to be there.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
About her and our kids. You know that they are
so mature these days, Like I love that. I feel
like she's going to take up for herself herself, and
you know, and and and follow through and ask questions
and all of that.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
I love that, Yes, they are ready to take on
the world. They are, you know, there is a fearlessness
which I think is wonderful. And so tell us a
little bit about Hallmark. Oh my goodness, because that is
sort of has that Now, how long have you been
part of the Hallmark family. I've talked about with I

(27:42):
think a couple of our the guests. I was lucky
enough to do one Hallmark movie, a Christmas movie. It
was not with Kelly Martin, but it was. But I
loved I loved my experience, and then I moved to
New York and I but I always just say they
were so wonderful there and they are just doing such
great things. So when did that start? And how has

(28:04):
that been?

Speaker 4 (28:04):
That's so good to hear. I have the same thing
to say. Honestly. I think I did my first one
about thirteen years ago. It was called Elevator Girl. And
now I've done thirty seven of them.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
And what done thirty seven?

Speaker 4 (28:18):
Oh Mark movies?

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, what do you do?

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Like a weird? Is that a record or just somebody?

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah, I'm not entirely sure, but.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
I hope you like a part owner of the company.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
I'm not, I am not, but I just love them.
I've really found a home there. And it's like and
it's because you work with a certain group of people
that long and you become family, you know, and there's
such a familiarity there, and you know the one that
I am talking about now, the Dancing Detective. I love

(28:50):
because we've been able to mix it up. It's a
it's a mystery, but it's a real adventure. There's a
lot of comedy in it. I love doing the Christmas ones.
I've done a few that are a bit more dramatic.
You know, we've did the Wedding Veil trilogy and ended
up getting to do another trilogy, and that was the
first time a few of us ladies from the network
were able to be in a movie together, which is
really important to me. And you know, they they've allowed

(29:14):
me to grow as an actress and a producer.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
And oh, you produced the films as well.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Oh, that's wonderful for you now.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
And it's it's something that I'm so thankful for because
I've I've learned so much and we get to have
a real voice in the development of the projects and
what kind of stories we bring to life. And you know,
they're happy movies. And even in the mystery like, there's
still that joyfulness and brightness that you depend on for
Hallmark Like, there's still a way that that's infused in there.
And I think now more than ever. I feel really

(29:44):
grateful to be a part of that because we just
need that. You know, when people stop me all the
time and go thank you for making these movies, they
make us happy, and you know, thanks for being able
to join in my living room. And I feel really
honored to be a part of it.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah. And there's so much like, yeah, there's like talk
about me and girls. There's a lot of mean spirit
dark stuff out there. Yeah, and it's nice to be
part of something that really is like wholesome and feel good.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, when you have a network that you know is
a safe zone, right for because I think now we're
so inundated with you can find whatever you want. There's
a million things streaming if you have direct TV or
you scroll through your channels or whatever it is. But
there is there is something cozy and safe and warm

(30:28):
about Hallmark and I guess and it's started with the cards.
It's started with Allmark cards back in the day, right, Yeah,
that was that that Really it's just sort of like
this sort of slice of these slices of life moments.
But I think it is that that people really do
need and yearn for, you know, And I think that's why.

(30:50):
That's why it's so fun with the Christmas movies too,
when they just start from before Thanksgiving. They're just on
twenty four to seven, right on a loop through throughout
the holiday season, and you just know that it doesn't
matter what time of day, you can just put it on,
see a new one, see an old one you loved.
And that's how wonderful to be such a big part

(31:13):
of that, and to be, you know, sort of getting
to work with so many wonderful women and people. I
think that's great.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Thank you so much, Thank you so much. Yeah, And
you know what, we all support each other. We all
like post about each other's movies when we can. And
you know, I watch most of all the movies that
I can. My daughter can watch the movies that I make.
That's something I really value at this point in my life.
And and like you said, they're kind of they're kind
of the comfort food of you know, movies brought to you.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
So I try to make each one better than the last,
and you know, do the best we can. And I
just have so much fun making them.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
I mean, we feel the same way about the nineties decade.
I mean, Christina and I always talk about this. It
was just such a like a happy, I don't know,
more innocent time before all the distractions came along. And
that's why we're looking back on that decade. It's sort
of like a just a comfort you know.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Yes, I love that you guys do this. I love that,
and you know, I was just I'm doing a different
interview and they brought up some pictures of me from
the early nineties and like pictures you know, oh wow, wow,
that was Yeah. I think I wore my overalls and
converse high tops to some red carpet event nice like

(32:27):
I think I had. There was one with like a
tie for a belt and like a crop crop sweet,
so good, it's so good, so thrilled that all of
these images last forever.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yeah, they are forever captured. Thank you never images images.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Who are the other actresses on Hallmark that you're talking about?
Who are the other actors?

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Oh, there's a lot, a lot of people. Alison Sweeney
and Autumn Recer and I we do the Wedding Bill series. Together.
That was that was a really fun one. That of
a magical veil and we all fell in love and
got married and then we got to see what happened
to them after they got married. There are so many,
so many talented people and so many wonderful men as well.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Do you sort of map out your year based on
what that schedule is going to be or did they
sort of come when they come and you just take
your time in developing them or is it really like
you look ahead and you're like, okay, we do are
back next year.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Were as business you got to be flexible.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Work seven of them, So yes, you work it out.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
You are absolutely best to figure it out and work
it out, and each one is an adventure. And I
usually get to bring my family, which is the greatest
blessing of it all.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
That's so cool. It's got to be wonderful for your
daughter to see, yeah, to see you doing what you love,
and you know, I think that's the most important thing.
I remember when my kids were really little, I wasn't
working and and then you know, in fact, I think
maybe that Hallmark Christmas movie was one of the things
that I did that took me away for like about

(34:02):
a month, and I just remember my daughter is like, Mommy,
you're so happy when you're working. It's so great, you know,
And I really feel like it was the first time
she understood that work doesn't have to be you know,
you see it on TV as something that's really tough.
If it's something you love, you can enjoy it and
it can bring so much more joy to you and

(34:24):
to the kids. And so congratulations on all of it.
I know you're in the midst of lots of promotion
right now, so we are going to uh to let.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
You go, and so wonderful talking to you. Thank you
so much.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, such a pleasure. Dancing Detective on Hallmark Yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
It's on Hallmark Movies and Mysteries channel, so it's not okay,
Periphets and Movies and Mysteries Channel.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
That's how popular it has gotten. There is an offshoot
that's just yes, that's where that's what happened.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Okay, perfect y, So good to see both of you.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Wow, what a sweetheart.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Right, that was great. I still see her as the
you know, there's so many things that we could have
talked to her about, but I know she she had
very limited time. She's sort of in the middle of
all of her press for for the show.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
But she could still be like twenty years old.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
That's what I was going to say, and I noticed too.
She it says that she does a lot of voiceover
work too, and she has that voice that is that
that enviable voice where like you could she's probably in there.
She is, she's in a lot of animated shows.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, I saw a family guy family.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yes, exactly, exactly, but yeah, really, you know again, I
feel like we're we're sort of working our way. We've
got two of the Party of five bunch, so maybe
we will continue to work our way through that cast.
Oh yeah, well your friends, I know, I know, I

(35:59):
know we probably have exactly a lot of people are
very private, but this was really terrific. I am going
to be seeing you in person. Oh yes, tomorrow, tomorrow,
and now for anybody who's listening to this, we will

(36:20):
have already seen each other because it's not in real time,
but yes we will. Yes, we're we are are. Our
Austin trip is here, and we're gonna have a lot
of fun and we're gonna get to meet a bunch
of other cool iHeart podcasters that you that you you know,
there's people that I think we know already, some I

(36:42):
don't know. I was looking at our list, and so
we will we'll have fun and I.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Think we have a great guest in Austin.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yes, yes, I'm excited.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Keep it, keep it a secret, as you.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Think I think. I think people will guess. I'm gonna
guess that people will guess.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
You know what they asked me to do. I guess.
I just gotta say because we have a little time,
because we're going to be there anyway. I was going
to leave Friday afternoon, but they said there's a Cheers
reunion on Friday from seven to nine. And they said
James Burrows, Glennon, Les Charles, ted Danson, John Ratzenberger, George

(37:23):
went who played my boss on Sabrina. So I've worked
with them.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Sweet.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
They said they're going to do a reading of the
original Cheers pilot.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
They asked me to play the role of Coach.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Oh my gosh. How fun.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yeah. They were like, would you be interested in staying
and doing this. I'm like, heck, yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
That is so cool. I don't I mean, I know
I saw the original pilot, but I don't remember it.
But who played Coach?

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Was it? Well? Well, he passed away. That's why Wood
he came in.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
You know Coach was Coach? Was that character? Right? Coach
was the Yes, he's the wise it is kind of
would exactly, yes, exactly. Then they brought in Woody Harrelson exactly.
Oh that would be amazing.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
I know it's like a little surprise thing. But they
do a great job at at X. I mean, you know, yeah,
so much fun. There.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Are they doing any or any of the original cast
members reading or is it all like he appropriate kind of?

Speaker 1 (38:37):
I think they pulled actors or actresses that are there
for other things and are doing like reading that read
through of the pilot. And then there's the band, the
musician who sings sometimes you want to go, you know
the theme saw they're going to perform. You can keep going,

(38:58):
you can keep saying we have time, right.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I'm taking off my pink sweater everybody.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
But then uh yeah, then there the cast and James
Burrows and the Charles Brothers are going to do a panel.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
But I think very cool.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, and I'm looking forward to our panel and our episode. Yeah,
I mean such a.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Great Yes, Yes, it'll be it'll be great. Yeah, it'll
be fun. I'm looking forward to it. It's our first
little trip and you.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Know what, we'll be doing an episode in the same
room which I think, yes, really makes I'm so excited.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
I know the last time we did that was Our
was our first episode was Our, it was Our Hey
dude gang. And yeah, I feel like the we thought
we were going to be able to do that so
much more when we first talked about it, we were like,
yeah all the time, and You're like, I'm in New

(40:02):
York all the time, and it has just been the
busiest year. So you know, when we when that does happen,
that is our intention. I think to try to do
it together.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
With Joey Lawrence yesterday and he said, you know, he
and his brothers, they they film and record like five
episodes in.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
A day exactly.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
He was like, you know, why don't you just you
go to New York and line up a bunch of episodes.
Christine flies to la we line up a bunch of
episodes and wed a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, I like the way Joey's thinking.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
He's like, you guys should be in the same room.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
All right, Do we have any other business to discuss
or are we going to wrap up?

Speaker 1 (40:48):
I think we wrap up. Lacy Shambert was amazing and uh,
you know, let's uh let's pick this up in Austin
for next week's episode.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yes, and come back and join us for our surprise
Austin guest where David and I will be in the
same room reunited. I think December was our last time.
And yeah, thank you as always for tuning in, for listening,
for your questions, for your suggestions, and our little growing

(41:21):
Instagram account. It's really exciting. I really feel like we've
got such a good bunch with us.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
The iHeart social media team does a great job. And yeah,
thank you everyone for listening, and yeah we will next week.
We'll be doing a show from Austin, Texas at ATX
and we have a great guest, So everybody have a
great week, and Christine I will see you tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
See you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Bye everyone, Bye.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Thanks for listening. Make sure to subscribe and give us
five stars

Speaker 1 (41:50):
And please follow us on Instagram at Hey Dude the
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