June 4, 2026 • 35 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, guys, it's us Brothers. Your favorite podcast related to us? Kevin,
there was a season you were kind of like campaigning.
You were a flat earther. I like to get a
rise from people, So you think that you were just
doing it. Oh, it was a bit. It was a
complete bit. There's no chance that Earth was flat, but
it was pretty fun to just get people riled up
if you like pushed them hard enough that you've actually
believed that. See, here's the thing you say that.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You say that prove it, but you always say that
after prove it, which makes me think that you're leaving
the possibility that you can do a told you so
later on in life. Should we all be, you know,
surprised by what is absolutely not?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Now we have receipts, we have a podcast. Yes, well
I do you guys want to hear what I have?
I'd love to. Okay, clapping always think that's when Kevin
usually speaks, and you know classic also of course, Oh yeah,
(01:09):
I like that one. Hell, we'll go back to the one.
You do it.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
You're probably wondering how I got here. That's good right
some time. Yeah, So that's my life.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
That's very very Disney. Keep going I do. I do
give you a Disney Channel one. It's like.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
She said no to going to the dance, like one
of those Okay, yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I like that. It's important that we have that for you.
It's good, it's good for me. Keeps you focused, it's
good for you. It's going to get annoying for you. Guys. Yeah,
I don't believe the Earth is flat. Okay, I guess
what do I know? I hit the wrong one. I was.
Joe does not agree with me. Everyone.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We have an incredible guests and raised us. Yes, he
actually it's our dead no TV Bill Night Bill Night.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
The Science Guy are one of the best, like musical
intros of a TV show.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
By the way, Brutal the Science Guy. I had that
in that too. I'm so excited to talk to him.
I know, Kevin, You're you're chomping at the time, Jones
and yeah, I haven't seen you this excited for a
guest yet. Don't tell the others, well, they're not listening.
Who would be your dream podcast guest?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Tony Stark?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So Tony Stark so RDJA in character or just in character?
Because you know, Tony Stark's not a real person.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I know, but in character as Tony Stark, you can
truly know that it would be just an epic interview,
super fun. Yeah, you're gonna have to pay him about
fifty million dollars to do that. Yeah. Hey, you asked,
what's my dream? That's my dream? What about yours?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Joe, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I haven't even thought about this. I have to think
about it's not a good answer. Well, let me think
about it for a second.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You go first, Uh, Messy Messi's cool, be sweet, I'd
like to talk to MESSI.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I would like to talk to Brunson after we win
the finals. Go nixt I'm sorry, I was, I was.
It was a good answer. You should take the time
minute as correctly. I feel like we'll get back to that.
I'll come back before our next guest. Make sure to
reach out to us on our hotline at one eight four, Hey,
Jonas one eight four four, three nine, five six six
two seven us a message. Those numbers on the dial
(03:24):
do have letters.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Oh, by the way, I left a message for someone
the other day, first time I've done that in probably
two or three years.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Like voice, my dad doesn't.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, I loved a voicemail and I felt like such
an adult. I even said my number, thank you for
teaching number. That's my this is my this is Nicole,
My number is blah blah blah blah. Give me call
back at your convenience. And they called me back right
away because obviously because I left my number.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, of course, because they did it as hop up. Yeah,
all right, here's Bill Nye, lads and gentlemen, the incredible
mister Bill Nye, the nice guy. Is the science guy
part of your legal name now? Or no, I have copyrights?
That's so?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Then yes, I think it is with and without the
word the or the Thank you so much for being
on our podcast. I got the pleasure of meeting you
with a forum, yes, or a special We're trying to
remember what it was, but it's very special. Environmental hipster
or a groovy thing, that's what it called. It was
actually called the environmental hipster groovy. So why were you there? Yeah?
(04:20):
I was EI there. I was the I don't care
about it, the groovy thing. He was the environment you're
the groovy thing.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
May I ask you, sir, what was your impressions of
Joe when you met him?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
He raved about you?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
No no comment.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, that's right. It was so many NDAs it has
a celebrity chat. You know, we grew up watching you
every morning. Yeah, and sometimes if the teacher was bored
enough or maybe hungover. Now that we're adults, MA understand,
they'd put you on the screen. They'd wheeled the TV
in and you know, ship was going to go off
(04:55):
if bill Ny was on the TV. So you changed
my life? You liked honestly? Did you?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
You?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You made me fall in love with school and understanding
what like wondering? I love you man.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
That is so nice. Thank you. That's the goal. That
was the goal of the show, to get people excited
about science.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Give us the background, like how did you go from
working as a stand up comedian to first Boeing engineer?
That's right, so you're an engineer by trade. Give us
a background.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I still have a license. Everybody engineering license. So I
went to engineering school because I like bicycles and airplanes.
Who doesn't kind of thing?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
And then I was graduated in nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
WHOA, that's great, back in your twentieth century. And then
oh it's on our headphones. I have a sound sounds great,
it's good cheering and clapping. It's a little aggressive thing. Anyway,
it's all good.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I claim that Steve Martin's first two albums, Let's Get
a Small, Wild and Crazy Guy, they were so popular.
They were so popular that that weekend after the second
one came out, every big city in North America had
one or two comedy clubs, and along with that, Warner
(06:17):
Brothers Record sponsored the Steve Martin Lookalike Contest. The guy
who had been my freshman roommate, Dave Lax, was still
a friend mine, and he comes hurrying over to you
got to see this guy. You got to see this
He's just like you. The way he moves, just like you.
He talks like when I saw the video of Steve
Martin at the boarding house.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Anyway, I entered the.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Steve Martin look at Like Contest a year later in
a completely different city, pressured to enter by a completely
different set of friends, and I won in Seattle. N
I did not advance beyond Seattle, but after that people
wanted me to do Steve Martin routines at a party
or an event or a thing.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Sure, did you get hired? Like, did you make some
cash on the side for college man beer money? That's
why twenty five bucks. Yeah, exactly, And so I eventually
doing stand up this and that.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I started writing jokes for a comedy show, almost live
and so on that show. One time a guest didn't
show up Ros Schaeffer. Have you ever met Ros Schaeffer?
He was still a dear friend of my host to
show you know, we Bill, why don't you that science?
You're always talking about science, Why don't you? So I
did the household uses of liquid nitrogen. It was funny,
(07:32):
and so in a writer's meeting, Ross said you'd be
Bill Nye, the science guy or something, and then he
kind of got up and left. And so one thing
that I do another you guys, And it took another
few years to get my own show.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Wow, and nineteen Emmy Awards later.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Nineteen yeah, nineteen Emmy Awards, and now it just five
No wow, young people. Wait, there's more. I just got
a Lifetime Achievement Emmy, which means you guys, it just
means the world to me.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Congratulations, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And I now too have a star on the Walk
of Fame.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
And you're wearing a very incredible pin if you don't mind,
I'm yes, I'm wearing tell us about this pin.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Wealsser, this pin of visit, which one the Presidential Medal
of Freedom. It just means the world to me, you guys.
Both of my parents were veterans, everybody, let's digress about this.
So my dad was a civilian working on Wake Island,
(08:36):
Middle Pacific Ocean. Nowhere. They were bombed on December eighth,
which is the same as December seventh, nineteen forty one,
because the International date line is part of the Japanese
military strategy to take over Pacific. He spent four years
as a prisoner of war. My mom, everybody, my mother
happened to be by the dumb walk of the universe,
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graduated from this liberal arts women's college in Baltimore, Goucher College,
in the spring of nineteen forty two, right after Pearl Harbor.
She and several of her classmates were recruited to be
crypt analysts to break codes. My mother was one of
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the code.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Girls like the movie Enigma, but different.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, except in the US. Yeah, and so this is
I thank you, well done. So I didn't cue him,
all right. So, so the British had a few hundred
women code breakers, the US had ten thousand, just understand
the US was able to throw a lot at the problem.
And everybody, I just remind you the Japanese military did
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not include women at all. The Nazis did not include women, and.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
They lost and we won the war.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Diversity wins wars. Don't come running to me. That is
objectively true. People, And so my mother, I will just say,
speaking of objectively, she was good at puzzles, like crossword puzzles,
and so because she was just really good at that stuff,
she used to write limericks.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And that's amazing. Well as as three girl dads here,
we appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
S Yes, that message, it's true, absolutely, and it sort
of is a segue to a non sequitor.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
A segue to a non sequitor.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Wait a minute, man, we are going to get fully
educated on it. It's a sequiteck me.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
The question is, you know, we've wondered, is there any
science behind that? And you may you know behind what
the fact that we all have girls, no boys in
the family, five granddaughters for our parents after four boys
unknown captain.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
But I read an article actually about it. Slightly. You
slightly read an article. I don't know if this doesn't
necessarily apply directly to us, but it could in some capacity.
So if you talk to Navy seals, they have majority
of percentage more more females than as daughter. Like there's
a stressful environment set. They're of the workplace, Yes, so
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there tsosterone is shifted, so they are it produces more
female energy in their offspring. So you think that we've
been under the men's amount of stress like Navy seals. No,
I'm not comparing the two, but in the environment where
we're around men a lot, where we're in the same
like living environments, Like it's that thing. Like I said,
I did to be a clear, I did say this
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does not necessarily apply to us.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
But well, you guys, books have been written about this,
and reproductive outcomes are a source of fascinations since time immemorial.
And so sure, I don't know, you guys, there's other
spec I don't want to I don't know who listens
to watches this podcast. But there's other speculation about what's
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the other speculation about how one interacts when one is
producing a k.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It Oh, so the act of the production speculation has
been speculated. Well that's actually you know, it's funny enough,
we do have.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
See it always becomes about sex everything.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Well, we'll keep it kind of on topic. Then music
keep it where we will keep it on topic on topic.
I do have a question about this specifically though, the female.
They's just get annoying when people ask you question science. No, no,
what because you're an engineer by trade?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yes, well, but also i'd like to consider myself now
an educator.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yes, and yes, absolutely all of us already.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You want to avoid man's planning. But there's two really
common ones. But the big one now is are there aliens?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Are there?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Well, first of all, there have to be respectfully completely.
There's two hundred billion stars in our galaxy alone, and
there may be ten times that many galaxies.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
People, what are the chances?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
How could they're not?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Pretty selfish? The physics, so it's just it breaks all
of our laws to be able to travel beyond the
speed of light, right and so far so far? So
it has to be the ability to wormhole it essentially
right to get them here or they are to.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Get aliens here. That's a whole another.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Well, by our understanding of these so called well, that's
it breaks the physics that well.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
No, but hold on to say that there are living
things or self reproducing organisms elsewhere is one claim. To
say they've come here in spacecraft and crashed is a
whole another. And I can tell you, guys, I had
very low level security clearance for why I worked on
the spider plane.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
There is so much stuff flying around.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I cannot even express to you the flying aroundness of
flying around on the order of a million things flying around,
certainly several hundred thousand things flying around. Here's one of
my favorites.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Why don't they paint spy planes light blue so you
couldn't see them against the blue sky?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Why don't they do that? They do do that, and
you can't see them.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
They're so small against the sky. It's just this rudimentary
trick that just.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Wow, there's just that much stuff up there that we
don't have so much stuff. Well, you said, there's a
few things that you get asked quite often. So one
is are there aliens? Where are some other questions that
Bill and I fans are constantly asking.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
There's a lot of stuff about.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
The earth, health health things.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yes, Oh, I don't want to disparage any car brand.
There is a dealership in Van Eys. There's a guy there,
an associate this guy believes the Earth is flat. This
actually just well and so this is somebody who went
to high school in the US. Earth is not flat,
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you guys.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Prove it. It is a Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
It is a hard thing. And I came of age
you guys when whack a Mole was a new game.
But this is this is whack a mole. If you
after you show him this, then that because the for
this guy, the moon is round, Mars is round, Saturn's round.
But somehow the Earth is flat, Like dude, it's it's
(15:31):
a tough one, and uh, you know it is an
extraordinary claim. When you're on the beach looking the ocean,
the Earth looks pretty flat.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah yeah, but then you zoom out and see a
ship coming over the horizon. There you go.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
You know, Christopher Columbus is supposed to have done that
where the ship disappears yet doesn't fall off the Earth.
It's really an amazing thing, you guys, that ocean and
the air are held on the Earth by gravity.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Do do do do do do do?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
And still really no one knows exactly where gravity comes from.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, because like what would happen if it just stopped
one day, like drift into space. No, but I mean
there's something to that. Yeah, it is what happened.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
So there's another question that everybody has asked. And I
tell you, if you meet somebody who hasn't asked this question,
they're lying to your face. There's no such thing as
time because now is already in the past, and so
like now, if I say now, well, then that's what
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that's was.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It sounds like this dealership smokes a lot of weed.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Well, it's a question that everybody is asked.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Do you believe in like the the universal sync thing where,
like you know, now, is the past passes the future,
everything's all in one line linear time? Or is time?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Actually well, so far, you guys, time seems to only
be going one way. Uh, for us, you can't go
back as far as anybody can tell. Yeah, there is
a theory, and by that I mean a physics theory
that you could build a time machine that would enable
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you to go back, but you couldn't go back any
farther than when the time machine was built. Do you
follow me?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yeah, but still even that hasn't been shown to be true.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Why wouldn't be able to go back further? Well, I
don't know that much more of the creation the time machine.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
If you could go back to a moment in your
career that would predate this supposed time machine, what would
it be.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Wow, Well, they'd probably involve certain women and so on.
That makes sense, but wish certain woman. Yeah, it's a
tough one and I know you guys have dealt with
that your whole careers and so so a moment in
my career, Yeah, maybe, seriously, I would have maybe left
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Seattle sooner. Seattle saved my life. I love Seattle. I'd
love to go back Seattle, visit my friends and stuff.
But there's a period there where I was really trying
to get on with the next thing. And maybe that's
you can't go back people, it's not an option.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That's the learn and who we probably would be sitting
with Steve Guy, the science guy. Yeah, well Steve Guy,
Steve Steve Martin, and Steve.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Steve Martin embraces science, you know, he did that whole Yeah,
it's just I love that his documentary is really fantastic.
I love that documentary.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
That So I have some questions from some people that
would love to ask them, and I'm going to ask
them for them. So this is mark AI is becoming
such a huge part of everyday life, ironic. Is there
anything that excites you about it? Or should we all
just be genuinely be worried.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Two things genuinely excite me about artificial intelligence. So the
first thing, artificial diligence RUSH circles greet me. It's going
to write my term paper and they're going to realize
I didn't write it. By Okay, that's all good, that
all sounds great. Yeah, but tell me shirt, I don't
mean to trivialize it. That's really important where people can't
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think for themselves and so on. But two specific things
I'm very excited about. The first one is agriculture. When
I went to the World's Fair in nineteen sixty five
in New York, New York, the town's so nice they
named it twice. There were three billion people in the world.
They had a United Nations had a total board, Total
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Board scoreboard. Now there are almost nine there's eight and
a half billion people, and we're feeding them somehow. But
I believe we could make more efficient farm crops and
more efficient grains, more efficient. Everybody loves corn, but more
efficient crops, and we would make them drought tolerant, flood tolerant,
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even weather tolerant.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Where they don't blow over windstorms.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Right, And we would do that by using artificial intelligence
to make a genome of a crop of sway that
would be more robust than what we have now and
feed more people.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Would we grow it on Earth? Yeah, because we're run
out of space, so like, how do we how do
we have growing stuff in space?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Is a hassle. Earth is great, And I remind people
farming is not natural. If you stop farming, it goes
back to some other thing. So just accept that we
are running the show here on Earth. Is not a gig.
We audition for we are in charge of the Earth.
Humans are running it. We have to make good decisions
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about the Earth. Everybody vote, don't make me come over there.
And if you're too young to vote, make sure the
grown ups in your life vote and have insist that
they vote with the climate of mind. That's the first thing.
Second thing, everybody, what are we doing. We're on an
electric podcast. We all have electric phones. I came here
an electric car. Electricity is the key to our future
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is having energy for everyone. If we had unlimited electricity,
we could change the world and so you're in your
lifetime of your kids. We are almost certainly going to
harness fusion. There are so many organizations working.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
On fusion fusion reactors.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yeah, so not splitting big atoms like have uranium or thorium,
having them fall apart, release the weak a heat of
the weak atomic force, instead smashing protons for example, together
overcoming the so called strong atomic force, releasing heat and light,
capturing the heat. Running a turbine, a steam turbine making electricity?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Is that the collider a collider? Yes?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
What that is? That would be yes? And so there's
so many different.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Schemes going on. So here's been the problem in the collider, okay,
is containing these particles that are going near the speed
of light, going very so called high temperature, containing them
with a magnetic field. So this is a plasma. Are
we down with a plasma? A plasma is like a gas,
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but all the electrons are like off on their own,
like doing their own thing, and so it's very hard
to manage. But I think with an artificial intelligence, computer
driven system, you'll not only be able to contain the
plasma where it is, but anticipate where it's going to fly.
The old saying that I didn't make up. It's like
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trying to handle jello with chopsticks, challenging.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
That's a great stake. I didn't make it up.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah, so it's very reasonable to me that artificial intelligence
computer gizmo could manage a magnetic field well enough to
smash these things together on Earth in a big building,
make a lot of heat, make steam, run a windmill
going backwards, and move magnets and make a make electricity.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
That's incredible.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
If we had unlimited electricity, Oh my goodness. What is
the ultimate goal? Everybody, fathers of women girls? Is to
raise the standard of living of women and girls. When
you raise the standard of living of women and girls,
everybody is better off. The old thank you think, But
I didn't make this up, you guys, it's not my idea.
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But you know the old saying happy women and girls,
happy life. Somebody goes something like that. Yeah, I paraphrase.
And so for that, Uncle Bill says, we want clean water,
access to the internet because that gives everybody the chance
to get education. The Internet's not perfect, but it gives
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everybody in the world chance to get education. And for
that we need renewable reliable electricity back to you.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Wow, fantastic, A great answers. I definitely agree that AI
is more of is a tool, and yeah, exactly, and
we're gonna run out of energy trying to figure it out.
Kevin has been using AI recently to create apps. And
who writes all your songs? No? No, no, no, definitely
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not just hits, just the hits strictly the hits, the
ones we sell. Actually, speaking of that, is there a
science to music that like, obviously frequencies are important. We've
got you go all the way back. When did you
guys start playing guitars and stuff? Thirteen was when I
picked up really yeah? Did you play the piano before that?
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I did not.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
That's amazing. You guys are like freaking prodigy.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
He started younger. Yeah, it was about eight.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, eight, that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, it was a mandate from our parents have said
eight years old, you gotta play now.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
But you just picked that up and thought it was cool.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I was.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I was doing musical theater before that, New York is
a theater kid.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
And then I started, you know, playing instruments soon after that.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Because I never picked it up and I'm around, Look everybody,
I'll tell you. I've tried to play the guitar.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Get get the banjo and your Steve Martin routine.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
No, it's all fake. Okay, No one can hold the
string down against the frat without touching the other string.
You're not kidding me, and I know you, not exactly.
I'm fine with it. I've come to terms with it. No,
it is impressive. So apparently dogs respond to octaves when
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you double the frequency, dogs know it?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
And what's the pentameter thing? When there's five notes and
people can figure pop music? The theory of music is
lost on us.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Heck it is he it is. No, you guys are amazing,
so sorry, respectfully, and I have rocked out to sucker
quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Me is the one.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I mean in cake by the Ocean, which makes perfect
sense anybody.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
From kids up to your grandmother making you a homemade meal. Okay, Kevin,
what's your question about science related to music? I was
just saying, is there is there science you want to know?
Is there science related music? For baby making music? It
always comes back to second, it does. I was trying
to ask this a while Agoes and Kevin was like
fangirling and started asking much a question about it. I
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just want to know. That was Mark's question, that wasn't
even mine. Okay, you know if there's if there's a
relation there, like you know because you said, well, there's
a lot of books about this, but music related? Is there?
Is it particular music being played? Help with I don't know,
help with what exactly science behind it, the reproductive part
or the experience like open ended question there.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
So take it, take it understanding. And this was a
joke I heard very recently. The young rooster is walk
through the barnhard barn.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
He's walking through the barnhard.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Perhaps he is, and well done.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
There's the expression Freudian slip.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Perhaps there it was.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
But he's doing jazz.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Scat singing right nice. There's no hens around him. He's
not a Jonas rooster. But then the older rooster comes
in the barn. Now he's got all these hens. He's
got it going on hen wise because and the young
rooster says to him, well, what's your secret?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Says you got to sing the standards. That's what the
rooster says, hit like satn doll world on a string.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I get a kick out of you. That's how that's
how you get your hens. So that's I'm of a
certain age. That sort of Frank Sinatra style stuff can
be very effective. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
You make me feel so young, that's it.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
You make me feel A song to be sung, A
wonderful fling to be flung. That is a freaking lyric.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
It's a fantastic song that every morning when you.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Have what music do you guys listen to to get
reed besides your own?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I play that song? Oh? Is that why? It popped
into your head? And I was just yeah, kind of
is there? You mean to be reed in the bedroom?
Or no playlist? I can't hear you. I've got a playlist.
What's your playlist? A sex time playlist? Yeah, for sex
time play Yeah, what's on that? It's all her favorite music?
How many kids do you have? Your two?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Five more? Yeah, all of her favorite music. You said
that her favorite band is D n C. So you're
on there. I'm on your sex playlist. No, that was
not going to happen. It's like Michael Bubl It's like
that kind of stuff. Yeah, that kind of stuff. See,
he gets it. It's the standards, the standards. The older
(28:51):
rooster of the roosters, we have more fan questions. This
one's from Laura.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
She says, Bill, I have to imagine your brain must
be constantly working.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yes, such a fact, ever.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Actually quiet or you always analyze in questioning and trying
to solve something in the background.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Answer is absolutely without question sort of, Yeah, I'm always
thinking about something. I'll tell you what I'm not thinking
about much is riding a bike. When I'm riding, I
spent a lot of time on blesses. Yeah, but I'm
not thinking about laughing well. And also for me as
a kid, you could just travel so far on a
(29:26):
bike compared to walking or running. It's amazing. And these god,
these modern racers are going thirty five forty miles an
hour all day anyway. So most of the time my
mind is going. I am not hipped anybody who says
the mind isn't going. And speaking of code breaking and
(29:48):
my mother, yes, one of the people in charge was
Bill Friedman, and he encouraged all the code breakers crypt
analysts to stop once in a while because you're the
back of your mind is still working the problem. And
I'll bet you guys as songwriters, right, I'm gonna I'm
(30:10):
gonna name drop actually because we're working on some music
here and we were I was walking outside working on
something in the back of my mind, as you said,
taking a break, and ran into John Mayer outside. Oh wow,
I was just like working the problem, like thinking about
the music, and he's like.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, I do that. There's a bathroom that if you
go to that bathroom you always figure out the second
verse in the building, and that's where it is in
this building. In this building.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Wow, you have to go.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Now or no, I'm good right now. You already did that.
One last question for you from Jordan Science Guy was
on TV today. What's something you've learned to just or
discovered since the show has ended that you'd love to
do an episode.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
On genetically modified organisms? Since you asked crops, I would
do more on that.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
We'll see another season of Bill Night. Well, I saw
Telly you.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
We always have a project. We always have a big
so we use in my family we use a verb
to Bill Friedman the way, so the show would be
called Bill's House and I would be in my house
and then kids would come over, Oh hi Bill, Hi kids.
Well today everything on the kitchen counter is about thermidynamics.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
What are the chances?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
And then look we go over here to the garage.
This is about thermidamics. Wow, who knew the garden thermidadamics
for example. So this is a project that we my
writing buddies and I are working on. And then I asked,
how I'm doing another book. We're always doing a book.
So have you guys ever visited Astronomy Picture of the Day.
(31:42):
It's a website, a todd we call it. So it's
a NASA are these two astronomers that publish what they
feel is a cool astronomy picture every day? And every
few years NASA publishes a book of the pictures cool Wow.
And Corey Pallaguy I've written with for a minute years.
He and I are doing the next one, and it's
all we're almost done. It's almost done. So that'll come
(32:05):
out next spring on Earth Day, and so it'll be
probably one hundred and eight astronomy pictures of the day
that we think are especially compelling, with our own brilliant,
insightful comments about each picture.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Love that, so it's cool.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Everybody loves astronomy. I was talking to my people, my
family some of the first time I saw the moon
through a telescope. Do you remember that.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I remember the first time I saw the moon the telescope.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, And do you remember the first time you saw
Saturn through a telescope?
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I didn't get that far. You will, everybody.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
When you see Saturn through a telescope, it just doesn't
look real. It's just you're joking me.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
It's not. It just looks like there's like it doesn't
what you say, He goes, it's well, it's not. Yeah,
it's not real. It's not round.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
And so people say, you know, you'll you guys, you'll
be there. You'll be at some star party.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Please invite us to your next star party. I want
to go to a star party. One more plug.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
For the Planetary Society. Check us out at planetary dot org,
world's largest independent space interest organization advancing the scientific exploration
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in our place within at elevator, doors closed, it's time
to wrap this podcast right. Check us out at planetary
dot org.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
We have star parties.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I love a star party. Bill and you are the best.
Thank you so much for being on the pod.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Thank you for our childhood and many others that listen
and watch our podcast. We're going to leave you with
this watching this video and viewers at home. This is
the video of that blew my mind when I was
a huge fan of the show. Obviously still am, but
this video I wanted to recreate but I could never
find it. But now be it based on the internet.
That's Matthew and this is my favorite at home experiments
(33:58):
on the show Fifty Employees. It's a good one. Vinegar
and add a little bit of baking server.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
That fizzing is carbon dioxide gas coming off.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Even though it's invisible, you can still pour it, just
like you pour water or milk. This bloom in my mind.
It gets me every time. You guys, he's not pouring
the liquid, he's pouring the gas. Look at that woo.
Gas is heavier than the air, and the bake on
this end goes down.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
FA.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Thank you the passion, beauty.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Enjoy you guys, the PB and J. You don't have
to take Matthew's word for it or my word for it.
You can do it yourself. Pour carbon oxide gas. And
I like to remind people that in the US Constitution,
now available in paperback, Article one, Section eight, Clause eight,
Congress shall promote the progress of science and useful arts.
(34:54):
Science is how the United States got to where it is.
Everybody in the world use This is the world word. Okay,
everybody respects NASA, everybody respects the scientific achievements of the
United States. A lot of other people have done wonderful things,
but this idea is remarkable. We are living at a
remarkable time. Everybody. Please vote, vote, vote.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Thanks you guys, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Thank you so much, you guys, this is so cool.
Hey, guys, it's us Brothers. Your favorite podcast related to us? Kevin,
there was a season you were kind of like campaigning.
You were a flat earther. I like to get a
rise from people, So you think that you were just
doing it. Oh, it was a bit. It was a
complete bit. There's no chance that Earth was flat, but
it was pretty fun to just get people riled up
if you like pushed them hard enough that you've actually
believed that. See, here's the thing you say that.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You say that prove it, but you always say that
after prove it, which makes me think that you're leaving
the possibility that you can do a told you so
later on in life. Should we all be, you know,
surprised by what is absolutely not?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Now we have receipts, we have a podcast. Yes, well
I do you guys want to hear what I have?
I'd love to. Okay, clapping always think that's when Kevin
usually speaks, and you know classic also of course, Oh yeah,
(01:09):
I like that one. Hell, we'll go back to the one.
You do it.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
You're probably wondering how I got here. That's good right
some time. Yeah, So that's my life.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
That's very very Disney. Keep going I do. I do
give you a Disney Channel one. It's like.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
She said no to going to the dance, like one
of those Okay, yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I like that. It's important that we have that for you.
It's good, it's good for me. Keeps you focused, it's
good for you. It's going to get annoying for you. Guys. Yeah,
I don't believe the Earth is flat. Okay, I guess
what do I know? I hit the wrong one. I was.
Joe does not agree with me. Everyone.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We have an incredible guests and raised us. Yes, he
actually it's our dead no TV Bill Night Bill Night.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
The Science Guy are one of the best, like musical
intros of a TV show.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
By the way, Brutal the Science Guy. I had that
in that too. I'm so excited to talk to him.
I know, Kevin, You're you're chomping at the time, Jones
and yeah, I haven't seen you this excited for a
guest yet. Don't tell the others, well, they're not listening.
Who would be your dream podcast guest?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Tony Stark?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So Tony Stark so RDJA in character or just in character?
Because you know, Tony Stark's not a real person.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I know, but in character as Tony Stark, you can
truly know that it would be just an epic interview,
super fun. Yeah, you're gonna have to pay him about
fifty million dollars to do that. Yeah. Hey, you asked,
what's my dream? That's my dream? What about yours?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Joe, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I haven't even thought about this. I have to think
about it's not a good answer. Well, let me think
about it for a second.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You go first, Uh, Messy Messi's cool, be sweet, I'd
like to talk to MESSI.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I would like to talk to Brunson after we win
the finals. Go nixt I'm sorry, I was, I was.
It was a good answer. You should take the time
minute as correctly. I feel like we'll get back to that.
I'll come back before our next guest. Make sure to
reach out to us on our hotline at one eight four, Hey,
Jonas one eight four four, three nine, five six six
two seven us a message. Those numbers on the dial
(03:24):
do have letters.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Oh, by the way, I left a message for someone
the other day, first time I've done that in probably
two or three years.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Like voice, my dad doesn't.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, I loved a voicemail and I felt like such
an adult. I even said my number, thank you for
teaching number. That's my this is my this is Nicole,
My number is blah blah blah blah. Give me call
back at your convenience. And they called me back right
away because obviously because I left my number.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, of course, because they did it as hop up. Yeah,
all right, here's Bill Nye, lads and gentlemen, the incredible
mister Bill Nye, the nice guy. Is the science guy
part of your legal name now? Or no, I have copyrights?
That's so?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Then yes, I think it is with and without the
word the or the Thank you so much for being
on our podcast. I got the pleasure of meeting you
with a forum, yes, or a special We're trying to
remember what it was, but it's very special. Environmental hipster
or a groovy thing, that's what it called. It was
actually called the environmental hipster groovy. So why were you there? Yeah?
(04:20):
I was EI there. I was the I don't care
about it, the groovy thing. He was the environment you're
the groovy thing.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
May I ask you, sir, what was your impressions of
Joe when you met him?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
He raved about you?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
No no comment.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, that's right. It was so many NDAs it has
a celebrity chat. You know, we grew up watching you
every morning. Yeah, and sometimes if the teacher was bored
enough or maybe hungover. Now that we're adults, MA understand,
they'd put you on the screen. They'd wheeled the TV
in and you know, ship was going to go off
(04:55):
if bill Ny was on the TV. So you changed
my life? You liked honestly? Did you?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
You?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You made me fall in love with school and understanding
what like wondering? I love you man.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
That is so nice. Thank you. That's the goal. That
was the goal of the show, to get people excited
about science.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Give us the background, like how did you go from
working as a stand up comedian to first Boeing engineer?
That's right, so you're an engineer by trade. Give us
a background.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I still have a license. Everybody engineering license. So I
went to engineering school because I like bicycles and airplanes.
Who doesn't kind of thing?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
And then I was graduated in nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
WHOA, that's great, back in your twentieth century. And then
oh it's on our headphones. I have a sound sounds great,
it's good cheering and clapping. It's a little aggressive thing. Anyway,
it's all good.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I claim that Steve Martin's first two albums, Let's Get
a Small, Wild and Crazy Guy, they were so popular.
They were so popular that that weekend after the second
one came out, every big city in North America had
one or two comedy clubs, and along with that, Warner
(06:17):
Brothers Record sponsored the Steve Martin Lookalike Contest. The guy
who had been my freshman roommate, Dave Lax, was still
a friend mine, and he comes hurrying over to you
got to see this guy. You got to see this
He's just like you. The way he moves, just like you.
He talks like when I saw the video of Steve
Martin at the boarding house.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Anyway, I entered the.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Steve Martin look at Like Contest a year later in
a completely different city, pressured to enter by a completely
different set of friends, and I won in Seattle. N
I did not advance beyond Seattle, but after that people
wanted me to do Steve Martin routines at a party
or an event or a thing.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Sure, did you get hired? Like, did you make some
cash on the side for college man beer money? That's
why twenty five bucks. Yeah, exactly, And so I eventually
doing stand up this and that.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I started writing jokes for a comedy show, almost live
and so on that show. One time a guest didn't
show up Ros Schaeffer. Have you ever met Ros Schaeffer?
He was still a dear friend of my host to
show you know, we Bill, why don't you that science?
You're always talking about science, Why don't you? So I
did the household uses of liquid nitrogen. It was funny,
(07:32):
and so in a writer's meeting, Ross said you'd be
Bill Nye, the science guy or something, and then he
kind of got up and left. And so one thing
that I do another you guys, And it took another
few years to get my own show.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Wow, and nineteen Emmy Awards later.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Nineteen yeah, nineteen Emmy Awards, and now it just five
No wow, young people. Wait, there's more. I just got
a Lifetime Achievement Emmy, which means you guys, it just
means the world to me.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Congratulations, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And I now too have a star on the Walk
of Fame.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
And you're wearing a very incredible pin if you don't mind,
I'm yes, I'm wearing tell us about this pin.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Wealsser, this pin of visit, which one the Presidential Medal
of Freedom. It just means the world to me, you guys.
Both of my parents were veterans, everybody, let's digress about this.
So my dad was a civilian working on Wake Island,
(08:36):
Middle Pacific Ocean. Nowhere. They were bombed on December eighth,
which is the same as December seventh, nineteen forty one,
because the International date line is part of the Japanese
military strategy to take over Pacific. He spent four years
as a prisoner of war. My mom, everybody, my mother
happened to be by the dumb walk of the universe,
(08:57):
graduated from this liberal arts women's college in Baltimore, Goucher College,
in the spring of nineteen forty two, right after Pearl Harbor.
She and several of her classmates were recruited to be
crypt analysts to break codes. My mother was one of
(09:17):
the code.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Girls like the movie Enigma, but different.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, except in the US. Yeah, and so this is
I thank you, well done. So I didn't cue him,
all right. So, so the British had a few hundred
women code breakers, the US had ten thousand, just understand
the US was able to throw a lot at the problem.
And everybody, I just remind you the Japanese military did
(09:44):
not include women at all. The Nazis did not include women, and.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
They lost and we won the war.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Diversity wins wars. Don't come running to me. That is
objectively true. People, And so my mother, I will just say,
speaking of objectively, she was good at puzzles, like crossword puzzles,
and so because she was just really good at that stuff,
she used to write limericks.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And that's amazing. Well as as three girl dads here,
we appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
S Yes, that message, it's true, absolutely, and it sort
of is a segue to a non sequitor.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
A segue to a non sequitor.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Wait a minute, man, we are going to get fully
educated on it. It's a sequiteck me.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
The question is, you know, we've wondered, is there any
science behind that? And you may you know behind what
the fact that we all have girls, no boys in
the family, five granddaughters for our parents after four boys
unknown captain.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
But I read an article actually about it. Slightly. You
slightly read an article. I don't know if this doesn't
necessarily apply directly to us, but it could in some capacity.
So if you talk to Navy seals, they have majority
of percentage more more females than as daughter. Like there's
a stressful environment set. They're of the workplace, Yes, so
(11:09):
there tsosterone is shifted, so they are it produces more
female energy in their offspring. So you think that we've
been under the men's amount of stress like Navy seals. No,
I'm not comparing the two, but in the environment where
we're around men a lot, where we're in the same
like living environments, Like it's that thing. Like I said,
I did to be a clear, I did say this
(11:31):
does not necessarily apply to us.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
But well, you guys, books have been written about this,
and reproductive outcomes are a source of fascinations since time immemorial.
And so sure, I don't know, you guys, there's other
spec I don't want to I don't know who listens
to watches this podcast. But there's other speculation about what's
(11:54):
the other speculation about how one interacts when one is
producing a k.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It Oh, so the act of the production speculation has
been speculated. Well that's actually you know, it's funny enough,
we do have.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
See it always becomes about sex everything.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Well, we'll keep it kind of on topic. Then music
keep it where we will keep it on topic on topic.
I do have a question about this specifically though, the female.
They's just get annoying when people ask you question science. No, no,
what because you're an engineer by trade?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yes, well, but also i'd like to consider myself now
an educator.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yes, and yes, absolutely all of us already.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You want to avoid man's planning. But there's two really
common ones. But the big one now is are there aliens?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Are there?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Well, first of all, there have to be respectfully completely.
There's two hundred billion stars in our galaxy alone, and
there may be ten times that many galaxies.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
People, what are the chances?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
How could they're not?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Pretty selfish? The physics, so it's just it breaks all
of our laws to be able to travel beyond the
speed of light, right and so far so far? So
it has to be the ability to wormhole it essentially
right to get them here or they are to.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Get aliens here. That's a whole another.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Well, by our understanding of these so called well, that's
it breaks the physics that well.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
No, but hold on to say that there are living
things or self reproducing organisms elsewhere is one claim. To
say they've come here in spacecraft and crashed is a
whole another. And I can tell you, guys, I had
very low level security clearance for why I worked on
the spider plane.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
There is so much stuff flying around.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I cannot even express to you the flying aroundness of
flying around on the order of a million things flying around,
certainly several hundred thousand things flying around. Here's one of
my favorites.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Why don't they paint spy planes light blue so you
couldn't see them against the blue sky?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Why don't they do that? They do do that, and
you can't see them.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
They're so small against the sky. It's just this rudimentary
trick that just.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Wow, there's just that much stuff up there that we
don't have so much stuff. Well, you said, there's a
few things that you get asked quite often. So one
is are there aliens? Where are some other questions that
Bill and I fans are constantly asking.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
There's a lot of stuff about.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
The earth, health health things.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yes, Oh, I don't want to disparage any car brand.
There is a dealership in Van Eys. There's a guy there,
an associate this guy believes the Earth is flat. This
actually just well and so this is somebody who went
to high school in the US. Earth is not flat,
(15:07):
you guys.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Prove it. It is a Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
It is a hard thing. And I came of age
you guys when whack a Mole was a new game.
But this is this is whack a mole. If you
after you show him this, then that because the for
this guy, the moon is round, Mars is round, Saturn's round.
But somehow the Earth is flat, Like dude, it's it's
(15:31):
a tough one, and uh, you know it is an
extraordinary claim. When you're on the beach looking the ocean,
the Earth looks pretty flat.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah yeah, but then you zoom out and see a
ship coming over the horizon. There you go.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
You know, Christopher Columbus is supposed to have done that
where the ship disappears yet doesn't fall off the Earth.
It's really an amazing thing, you guys, that ocean and
the air are held on the Earth by gravity.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Do do do do do do do?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
And still really no one knows exactly where gravity comes from.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, because like what would happen if it just stopped
one day, like drift into space. No, but I mean
there's something to that. Yeah, it is what happened.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
So there's another question that everybody has asked. And I
tell you, if you meet somebody who hasn't asked this question,
they're lying to your face. There's no such thing as
time because now is already in the past, and so
like now, if I say now, well, then that's what
(16:36):
that's was.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It sounds like this dealership smokes a lot of weed.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Well, it's a question that everybody is asked.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Do you believe in like the the universal sync thing where,
like you know, now, is the past passes the future,
everything's all in one line linear time? Or is time?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Actually well, so far, you guys, time seems to only
be going one way. Uh, for us, you can't go
back as far as anybody can tell. Yeah, there is
a theory, and by that I mean a physics theory
that you could build a time machine that would enable
(17:11):
you to go back, but you couldn't go back any
farther than when the time machine was built. Do you
follow me?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yeah, but still even that hasn't been shown to be true.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Why wouldn't be able to go back further? Well, I
don't know that much more of the creation the time machine.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
If you could go back to a moment in your
career that would predate this supposed time machine, what would
it be.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Wow, Well, they'd probably involve certain women and so on.
That makes sense, but wish certain woman. Yeah, it's a
tough one and I know you guys have dealt with
that your whole careers and so so a moment in
my career, Yeah, maybe, seriously, I would have maybe left
(17:54):
Seattle sooner. Seattle saved my life. I love Seattle. I'd
love to go back Seattle, visit my friends and stuff.
But there's a period there where I was really trying
to get on with the next thing. And maybe that's
you can't go back people, it's not an option.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That's the learn and who we probably would be sitting
with Steve Guy, the science guy. Yeah, well Steve Guy,
Steve Steve Martin, and Steve.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Steve Martin embraces science, you know, he did that whole Yeah,
it's just I love that his documentary is really fantastic.
I love that documentary.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
That So I have some questions from some people that
would love to ask them, and I'm going to ask
them for them. So this is mark AI is becoming
such a huge part of everyday life, ironic. Is there
anything that excites you about it? Or should we all
just be genuinely be worried.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Two things genuinely excite me about artificial intelligence. So the
first thing, artificial diligence RUSH circles greet me. It's going
to write my term paper and they're going to realize
I didn't write it. By Okay, that's all good, that
all sounds great. Yeah, but tell me shirt, I don't
mean to trivialize it. That's really important where people can't
(19:12):
think for themselves and so on. But two specific things
I'm very excited about. The first one is agriculture. When
I went to the World's Fair in nineteen sixty five
in New York, New York, the town's so nice they
named it twice. There were three billion people in the world.
They had a United Nations had a total board, Total
(19:34):
Board scoreboard. Now there are almost nine there's eight and
a half billion people, and we're feeding them somehow. But
I believe we could make more efficient farm crops and
more efficient grains, more efficient. Everybody loves corn, but more
efficient crops, and we would make them drought tolerant, flood tolerant,
(19:57):
even weather tolerant.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Where they don't blow over windstorms.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Right, And we would do that by using artificial intelligence
to make a genome of a crop of sway that
would be more robust than what we have now and
feed more people.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Would we grow it on Earth? Yeah, because we're run
out of space, so like, how do we how do
we have growing stuff in space?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Is a hassle. Earth is great, And I remind people
farming is not natural. If you stop farming, it goes
back to some other thing. So just accept that we
are running the show here on Earth. Is not a gig.
We audition for we are in charge of the Earth.
Humans are running it. We have to make good decisions
(20:42):
about the Earth. Everybody vote, don't make me come over there.
And if you're too young to vote, make sure the
grown ups in your life vote and have insist that
they vote with the climate of mind. That's the first thing.
Second thing, everybody, what are we doing. We're on an
electric podcast. We all have electric phones. I came here
an electric car. Electricity is the key to our future
(21:06):
is having energy for everyone. If we had unlimited electricity,
we could change the world and so you're in your
lifetime of your kids. We are almost certainly going to
harness fusion. There are so many organizations working.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
On fusion fusion reactors.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yeah, so not splitting big atoms like have uranium or thorium,
having them fall apart, release the weak a heat of
the weak atomic force, instead smashing protons for example, together
overcoming the so called strong atomic force, releasing heat and light,
capturing the heat. Running a turbine, a steam turbine making electricity?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Is that the collider a collider? Yes?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
What that is? That would be yes? And so there's
so many different.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Schemes going on. So here's been the problem in the collider, okay,
is containing these particles that are going near the speed
of light, going very so called high temperature, containing them
with a magnetic field. So this is a plasma. Are
we down with a plasma? A plasma is like a gas,
(22:16):
but all the electrons are like off on their own,
like doing their own thing, and so it's very hard
to manage. But I think with an artificial intelligence, computer
driven system, you'll not only be able to contain the
plasma where it is, but anticipate where it's going to fly.
The old saying that I didn't make up. It's like
(22:37):
trying to handle jello with chopsticks, challenging.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
That's a great stake. I didn't make it up.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah, so it's very reasonable to me that artificial intelligence
computer gizmo could manage a magnetic field well enough to
smash these things together on Earth in a big building,
make a lot of heat, make steam, run a windmill
going backwards, and move magnets and make a make electricity.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
That's incredible.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
If we had unlimited electricity, Oh my goodness. What is
the ultimate goal? Everybody, fathers of women girls? Is to
raise the standard of living of women and girls. When
you raise the standard of living of women and girls,
everybody is better off. The old thank you think, But
I didn't make this up, you guys, it's not my idea.
(23:27):
But you know the old saying happy women and girls,
happy life. Somebody goes something like that. Yeah, I paraphrase.
And so for that, Uncle Bill says, we want clean water,
access to the internet because that gives everybody the chance
to get education. The Internet's not perfect, but it gives
(23:47):
everybody in the world chance to get education. And for
that we need renewable reliable electricity back to you.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Wow, fantastic, A great answers. I definitely agree that AI
is more of is a tool, and yeah, exactly, and
we're gonna run out of energy trying to figure it out.
Kevin has been using AI recently to create apps. And
who writes all your songs? No? No, no, no, definitely
(24:17):
not just hits, just the hits strictly the hits, the
ones we sell. Actually, speaking of that, is there a
science to music that like, obviously frequencies are important. We've
got you go all the way back. When did you
guys start playing guitars and stuff? Thirteen was when I
picked up really yeah? Did you play the piano before that?
(24:38):
I did not.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
That's amazing. You guys are like freaking prodigy.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
He started younger. Yeah, it was about eight.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, eight, that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, it was a mandate from our parents have said
eight years old, you gotta play now.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
But you just picked that up and thought it was cool.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I was.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I was doing musical theater before that, New York is
a theater kid.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
And then I started, you know, playing instruments soon after that.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Because I never picked it up and I'm around, Look everybody,
I'll tell you. I've tried to play the guitar.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Get get the banjo and your Steve Martin routine.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
No, it's all fake. Okay, No one can hold the
string down against the frat without touching the other string.
You're not kidding me, and I know you, not exactly.
I'm fine with it. I've come to terms with it. No,
it is impressive. So apparently dogs respond to octaves when
(25:33):
you double the frequency, dogs know it?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
And what's the pentameter thing? When there's five notes and
people can figure pop music? The theory of music is
lost on us.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Heck it is he it is. No, you guys are amazing,
so sorry, respectfully, and I have rocked out to sucker
quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Me is the one.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I mean in cake by the Ocean, which makes perfect
sense anybody.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
From kids up to your grandmother making you a homemade meal. Okay, Kevin,
what's your question about science related to music? I was
just saying, is there is there science you want to know?
Is there science related music? For baby making music? It
always comes back to second, it does. I was trying
to ask this a while Agoes and Kevin was like
fangirling and started asking much a question about it. I
(26:26):
just want to know. That was Mark's question, that wasn't
even mine. Okay, you know if there's if there's a
relation there, like you know because you said, well, there's
a lot of books about this, but music related? Is there?
Is it particular music being played? Help with I don't know,
help with what exactly science behind it, the reproductive part
or the experience like open ended question there.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
So take it, take it understanding. And this was a
joke I heard very recently. The young rooster is walk
through the barnhard barn.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
He's walking through the barnhard.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Perhaps he is, and well done.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
There's the expression Freudian slip.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Perhaps there it was.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
But he's doing jazz.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Scat singing right nice. There's no hens around him. He's
not a Jonas rooster. But then the older rooster comes
in the barn. Now he's got all these hens. He's
got it going on hen wise because and the young
rooster says to him, well, what's your secret?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Says you got to sing the standards. That's what the
rooster says, hit like satn doll world on a string.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I get a kick out of you. That's how that's
how you get your hens. So that's I'm of a
certain age. That sort of Frank Sinatra style stuff can
be very effective. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
You make me feel so young, that's it.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
You make me feel A song to be sung, A
wonderful fling to be flung. That is a freaking lyric.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
It's a fantastic song that every morning when you.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Have what music do you guys listen to to get
reed besides your own?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I play that song? Oh? Is that why? It popped
into your head? And I was just yeah, kind of
is there? You mean to be reed in the bedroom?
Or no playlist? I can't hear you. I've got a playlist.
What's your playlist? A sex time playlist? Yeah, for sex
time play Yeah, what's on that? It's all her favorite music?
How many kids do you have? Your two?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Five more? Yeah, all of her favorite music. You said
that her favorite band is D n C. So you're
on there. I'm on your sex playlist. No, that was
not going to happen. It's like Michael Bubl It's like
that kind of stuff. Yeah, that kind of stuff. See,
he gets it. It's the standards, the standards. The older
(28:51):
rooster of the roosters, we have more fan questions. This
one's from Laura.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
She says, Bill, I have to imagine your brain must
be constantly working.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yes, such a fact, ever.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Actually quiet or you always analyze in questioning and trying
to solve something in the background.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Answer is absolutely without question sort of, Yeah, I'm always
thinking about something. I'll tell you what I'm not thinking
about much is riding a bike. When I'm riding, I
spent a lot of time on blesses. Yeah, but I'm
not thinking about laughing well. And also for me as
a kid, you could just travel so far on a
(29:26):
bike compared to walking or running. It's amazing. And these god,
these modern racers are going thirty five forty miles an
hour all day anyway. So most of the time my
mind is going. I am not hipped anybody who says
the mind isn't going. And speaking of code breaking and
(29:48):
my mother, yes, one of the people in charge was
Bill Friedman, and he encouraged all the code breakers crypt
analysts to stop once in a while because you're the
back of your mind is still working the problem. And
I'll bet you guys as songwriters, right, I'm gonna I'm
(30:10):
gonna name drop actually because we're working on some music
here and we were I was walking outside working on
something in the back of my mind, as you said,
taking a break, and ran into John Mayer outside. Oh wow,
I was just like working the problem, like thinking about
the music, and he's like.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, I do that. There's a bathroom that if you
go to that bathroom you always figure out the second
verse in the building, and that's where it is in
this building. In this building.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Wow, you have to go.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Now or no, I'm good right now. You already did that.
One last question for you from Jordan Science Guy was
on TV today. What's something you've learned to just or
discovered since the show has ended that you'd love to
do an episode.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
On genetically modified organisms? Since you asked crops, I would
do more on that.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
We'll see another season of Bill Night. Well, I saw
Telly you.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
We always have a project. We always have a big
so we use in my family we use a verb
to Bill Friedman the way, so the show would be
called Bill's House and I would be in my house
and then kids would come over, Oh hi Bill, Hi kids.
Well today everything on the kitchen counter is about thermidynamics.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
What are the chances?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
And then look we go over here to the garage.
This is about thermidamics. Wow, who knew the garden thermidadamics
for example. So this is a project that we my
writing buddies and I are working on. And then I asked,
how I'm doing another book. We're always doing a book.
So have you guys ever visited Astronomy Picture of the Day.
(31:42):
It's a website, a todd we call it. So it's
a NASA are these two astronomers that publish what they
feel is a cool astronomy picture every day? And every
few years NASA publishes a book of the pictures cool Wow.
And Corey Pallaguy I've written with for a minute years.
He and I are doing the next one, and it's
all we're almost done. It's almost done. So that'll come
(32:05):
out next spring on Earth Day, and so it'll be
probably one hundred and eight astronomy pictures of the day
that we think are especially compelling, with our own brilliant,
insightful comments about each picture.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Love that, so it's cool.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Everybody loves astronomy. I was talking to my people, my
family some of the first time I saw the moon
through a telescope. Do you remember that.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I remember the first time I saw the moon the telescope.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, And do you remember the first time you saw
Saturn through a telescope?
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I didn't get that far. You will, everybody.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
When you see Saturn through a telescope, it just doesn't
look real. It's just you're joking me.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
It's not. It just looks like there's like it doesn't
what you say, He goes, it's well, it's not. Yeah,
it's not real. It's not round.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
And so people say, you know, you'll you guys, you'll
be there. You'll be at some star party.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Please invite us to your next star party. I want
to go to a star party. One more plug.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
For the Planetary Society. Check us out at planetary dot org,
world's largest independent space interest organization advancing the scientific exploration
of space so that people everywhere will know the Cosmos
in our place within at elevator, doors closed, it's time
to wrap this podcast right. Check us out at planetary
dot org.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
We have star parties.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I love a star party. Bill and you are the best.
Thank you so much for being on the pod.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Thank you for our childhood and many others that listen
and watch our podcast. We're going to leave you with
this watching this video and viewers at home. This is
the video of that blew my mind when I was
a huge fan of the show. Obviously still am, but
this video I wanted to recreate but I could never
find it. But now be it based on the internet.
That's Matthew and this is my favorite at home experiments
(33:58):
on the show Fifty Employees. It's a good one. Vinegar
and add a little bit of baking server.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
That fizzing is carbon dioxide gas coming off.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Even though it's invisible, you can still pour it, just
like you pour water or milk. This bloom in my mind.
It gets me every time. You guys, he's not pouring
the liquid, he's pouring the gas. Look at that woo.
Gas is heavier than the air, and the bake on
this end goes down.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
FA.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Thank you the passion, beauty.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Enjoy you guys, the PB and J. You don't have
to take Matthew's word for it or my word for it.
You can do it yourself. Pour carbon oxide gas. And
I like to remind people that in the US Constitution,
now available in paperback, Article one, Section eight, Clause eight,
Congress shall promote the progress of science and useful arts.
(34:54):
Science is how the United States got to where it is.
Everybody in the world use This is the world word. Okay,
everybody respects NASA, everybody respects the scientific achievements of the
United States. A lot of other people have done wonderful things,
but this idea is remarkable. We are living at a
remarkable time. Everybody. Please vote, vote, vote.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Thanks you guys, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Thank you so much, you guys, this is so cool.
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