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Speaker 1 (00:02):
A media BB yelling out ganggang, Do you gangbang? I'll
be out sorry with my ganggang. I found that the folk,
the beast, the bis tonight. Okay anyway, uh still kind
of on the high of the YG in game versus
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H A lot of blood activity and listen, I don't gangbang, Okay.
I also didn't grow up around blood. I was chased
by bloods, harassed by them. But that being said, that
one still sticks with me. I'll be yelling out ganggang,
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and it seems like that's what BB feeling like. He
yelling out like he done presented a collab post with us. Yo,
let's do it. Let's do a brand collab. You know
what I'm saying, It be basically both of ours. You
feel me. It just stay in my house like rather
than you just like featuring me you feel me or
just like kind of letting me pull up, nigga, why
don't we just work together, Cause let's just let's just
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form a little group. Let's become black hippie. You don't
sound saying like you got your own thing. We got ours.
You feel me like, let's just be black hippie. You know,
ASoP mob this thing. You feel me there's Yams, there's
Rocket you feel me and ferg like you know, don't
mean we Let's just click up you feel me? Anybody
messing with my click your stall was saying, like why
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why why? Why? What? Why work double? Why? Why should
we be researching the same thing? Come to the same conclusion.
We're not spending this money right like we already tapped in,
we already connected. It's already ganggang. Won't you just you
know what I'm saying. Let's move it from like you
know what I'm saying, like from from just like you
selling me stuff. Let's just click up you feel me.
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Ain't nobody messing with our click click click click, Like
at America was like, I'll be shit, Why okay, let's
figure it out. So we got to talk about the
military collab happening for the twenty twenty seven fiscal year
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NDAA Section two nineteen Hood politics. Y'all all right, this
is not funny. It's actually some of the most violent,
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Like I can't believe we doing this type beat that's
happening right now now. Granted, what I'm gonna try not
to do is put too much of my own sauce
on the tacos here, Like I feel like I could
just present it in front of you and let y'all
kind of figure out. Now, here's the thing. Whatever I'm
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about to talk about right now, it only passed in
the House. It ain't passing the Senate and shot that
thing down because they was like, nigga, you tripping. But
they have their own version called the Futures Act. Either way,
let me let y'all know something right now, we're stuck
with Israel cuz whatever whatever they do we connected to.
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It's just look and they solidifying the thing you feel
me with They all reasons as to why maybe or
maybe not it ain't gonna work whatever it is, cause
we stuck. All right, So here's the thing. Like I said,
this isn't really fun. This is actually very violent, but
at the end of the day, it's like it's an
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integration of brands that the thing is. Like I said, like,
I'm gonna try to just give you to give you
the dots and just let you connect the mid decide
you'rll own thing. But here's the reality is. Listen, when
I was on I'm gonna get real transparent with y'all.
For y'all who knew me before the podcast stuff. If
you knew me would like the rap Christian rap world
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when we started Humble Beasts. Okay, now keep in mind,
before y'all start getting mad at me, I got anoh
negative to say about Humble Beasts. Those were my brothers.
I loved that time. This was a great time in
my life. I believe we built something very dope, very important,
you know what I'm saying. We're a very important voice.
But we had different differences of opinions. TJ. Thomas, who
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ran the thing, was one of the smartest as far
as like understanding what it meant to have a brand
and an aesthetic and what the difference was, and to
whether it was visual sonically aesthetic like across the board,
what it meant to carry something. Now when you listen
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to our music, what we stood for, what our sound was.
We all had a very unique sound and a very
different posture in the way we was trying to present
ourselves to the world. And it was going to come
to a head at some point when my brother Jay
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Gibbons came out right. So when he came out, you
know as gay, he came out the closet, he came
out to me first, right, or at least as far
as the brand is concerned, he came out to his family.
The point I'm saying is I knew years before the
public knew, right, I probably knew years years, knew years
before the label knew. But since the label also had
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an artist who if you black, you familiar Black Church
was a sister named Jackie Hill Perry. She was also
on the label too. And then you had this group
called Beautiful Eulogy, who was the Just Theology rappers. You
know what I'm saying. Obviously y'all know me. Y'all hear
me every day. I don't sound like neither of those things, right,
but we're all building the same brand. Now. Jackie wrote
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this book that, pending on who you ask, was either
very informative or very distrust She wrote this book called
gay Girl, Good God. I'm gonna let you all decide
what she means by that. The point is she was
essentially talking about she now lives that she was a
queer woman, and it's not so much that she still
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don't like girls. It's that she is choosing to or
follow God and live in a heterosexual life. That she's
in a straight marriage with a man that she loves,
but it does not mean that she still don't attracted
the women. She's just saying that that is sinful, and
I'm choosing to not live in that sin and give
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my identity to christ It's her book, Okay, leave me
Alone is her book. Now she's on the label with us.
Jay Gibbons is like, Noah, nigga, I'm gay, yeah right,
and Jay my nigga, you're so what I'm saying, Like,
and I don't hold the views that Jackie holds. The
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issue was I was, at the time the flagship artist.
I was the biggest artist on the label. So so
it's not even Moore one of label don't exist no
more and number two Jackie became bigger than all of
us in that world. Right. The point is I would
get calls or texts from the label if ever I
would support something that was theologically questionable. Right now, we
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were friends, like we're all friends, like it is what
it is. This is my origin story. If y'all know
me well enough, y'all who don't know, like, if you
don't know me before this this podcast, none of this
makes sense to you. But y'all a dude, I was
in this process of a letting go of a lot
of problematic and destructive beliefs in my faith and my understanding.
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I was in the process of letting a lot of
that go right and becoming the evolved Pokemon that you
see right now, you feel me, And part of that
was like a Jada designated shooter. That's my brother, Cuz,
like I rocks with him. If he's saying that's what
it is, he's saying that's what it is, right. So
with me, you know, I'm I'm moving way more progressive,
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Like I'm becoming more of what I've always had, the
revolutionary aspect of me, but like the theological progression and
the allowing for and opening your mind and understanding and
just like making a tent bigger and just not being
so like closed minded about the gays. You feel me
like I was moving on so but so when one
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of my homegirls got married to her female boo, I'm
outside like celebrating her. You feel me, like, let's go.
I got a call. I got a call because the
label got a call from some pastor worried about me. Nigga,
we connected, like I can't just have my own thoughts
because my thoughts as the flagship artist reflects the thoughts
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of the label. Now everybody know, we all different people,
but they hit me up like privately. The label hit
me up privately like bro, like look, dude, almost on
some like I don't want to get into it because
I'm afraid of your answer. But it messes us all
up right like if you as you know, the face
of the label had its positions, you setting up a
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situation where now I got to explain a lot of
stuff and then it just screws us all up. So
they asked me to shut up now like I said,
not on his label, No mo them brothers a pastor
in now Jackie is star the way she is star.
And Jay's doing marketing for some of the most amazing
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LGBTQ like health and mental health and wellness programs out
here in Los Angeles, and I am running hood politics
with prop The point is you stuck with the brand
you feel me you open up my Spotify. My three
most stream songs are from albums of that time. It
is what it is. I'm proud of my work. The
point I'm trying to make is hell, I still got
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humble beefs tattooed. You feel me like we built something.
I'm connected forever. I can denounce the things that I
do clearly don't believe in. You feel me are the
things I still don't hold to no more. But it
is what it is. The brand is a mesh. Sorry, y'all,
that's us in Israel. That's us in Israel, Nigga, Jordan
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will always be a part of Nike, y'all. Don't care
what you say. Nike and Jordan will always be connected.
It just it is what it is. Lakers and Kobe,
it's gonna always Kobe did his own thing. Is he
gonna always be a Laker? It just it is what
it is. I don't know what to tell you. We
just connected to him. The Niggas can be genocide. They
using our bombs. I don't know what to tell you,
but they using bombs that we willing to sell them.
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So rather than just featuring us or selling us, this
Senate bill is like, why is we just why is
we making this relationship transactional? Nigga, Let's just click up.
Let's just make it one thing right now. When you
say we're integrating our militaries, let me fact check you first.
The first thing we're not doing. It don't mean nigga
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that like Israeli's sergeant can come tell an American private
to come dropping given fifty like, it don't mean that, right,
It don't mean that you're not gonna put you like
I'm saying, US forces ain't under military command and vice versa. Right.
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And also, there's nothing in the NBAA. There's nothing in
this Senate bill or in this bill that would force
us to fight a war on Israel's behalf or vice versa.
That's not what we're saying. Well, we're talking about is precious, precious, precious,
precious cargo in resources, homeie, in integration. I'm like why,
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like why, like, why do double work. Let's just do
a group project. You feel me like this is a
group project. I will just put both our names on it. Yes,
I know what I'm saying, group project, both our names
on it. So it authorizes one trillion dollars in military spending,
putting the US ahead as the world's biggest spender. Right,
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and it comes shortly after the defense sector pete HEXP
in February twenty eighth as for thirty thirty seven point
five billion dollars. Right. So, okay, but what is it?
What is Section two nineteen right, so of the House
Right Section two nineteen of the House's Fiscal Year twenty
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twenty seven, the National Defense Authorization Act with eight A
United States that slash Israel Defense Technology COOPERATIONTED initiative. Right,
that would require the Defense Secretary to designate a Pentagon
executive agent to oversee an accelerated integration. Now I'm explaining
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to you what the integration actually is of the US
defense research, development, and supply chains. Right. So, proponents of
it cast US as a deeper alliance building and innovation,
but critics say it's embeds of foreign origin into the
system programs and reduces annual appropriations oversights and raises espionage
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and human rights risks. So, now, how could both of
those be true? Well, what it is is like, okay,
wh when you talk about like manufacturing, like making shit
right section two nineteen. It covers joint testing, production, procurement,
and supply chain coordination, right, and the incorporation of the
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Israeli or jointly developed technology into US programs. Right. So
it's a co production of the supply chain, right, Israeli
origin or jointly developed tech that's built into actual US
programs of record across missile defense, AI, drone, cyber, cyber,
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quantum and direct biotech. Are we sharing information kind of,
but it's a separate track, right Basically, like if I
learned stuff, you promising you gonna tell me. But when
we building all this stuff, like, let's just build it together.
So what are they building. They're building drone threats of
all types, including aerial drones and seedborn unmanned systems, anti
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tunneling and underground threats, air defense, artificial intelligence and quantum compute, computing,
advanced sensors and directed energy, electronic warfare and cyber capabilities,
medical program and biotechnology, fusing data networks together, defense industry
and other emergent technologies. Right now, that's a whole lot
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of big word things. But what's going on in the
military right now in the world is that we're getting
closer to the terminator, Like these future weapons is getting
so crazy and it costs so damn much to make
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this shit. And if you ain't noticed, we kind of
tie to spending money on weapons. And if you ain't noticed,
I don't know. The last war we won like outright one.
So this whole excitement about America being the greatest military
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in the world. The people is like, I don't know
what this difference it makes. And yeah, the gas is
one hundred dollars, Like what are we gaining from this?
So and if you want to stay at the top
of the food chain, big dog, you can't just do
that by yourself. You can't keep telling yourself this story
that we're the most powerful military in the world when
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I don't know if you've been watching Israel, my boy,
they spin bread. They the ones with the iron dome.
We ain't got no iron dome, my boy. They got
some technology, my nigga, that we were still not messing with.
And the beauty thing about Israel is like, we ain't
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gotta worry about it because we'll just we'll make our
own stuff. Listen, this is why bb is putting Belta
hands right now. Because my daughter gets twenty bucks, my youngest,
not my grown daughter. She unloads the dishwasher in the weekdays.
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I don't even make her wash the dishes. She unloaded
dish washer. She gets a little money, Okay, she does
some extra stuff. Now, I come from the generation of
like I'm not gonna pay you for what you supposed
to do. Nigga, you live here, your chores and your
chores okay. So like her room is like I expect
you to clean your room. I ain't. There's no allowance
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for that. It's the extra stuff that you really ain't
got to do right now anyway, twenty bucks. She gets
to the store. She want to buy her a little thing.
My daughter likes. She in the fashion now you know
what I'm saying. Like she nothing liked the rest of us.
She want to go to Hollister and carrying on. She
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want to walk around the mall and just look at
the new stuff. But she also like thrift stores, which
is dope. So she save her little chains take her
to a little thrift store. She look at something and
she like, Daddy, can you buy me this? And I'm like,
use your money? She like, well, I don't want to
spend my money. I mean, neither do I I'd rather
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spend your money. This is why be this is what
BB do. I'll spending my money on this, but I
ain't burning my weapons money And like, I'll use yours.
You feel me like y'all gonna do this, I'll just
buy it. From you well and do what I do.
And I ain't gotta give you nothing back because remember
you the greatest military in the world. I ain't gotta
give you nothing back. But BB, like, why is we
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working separately? Why don't we just why don't we just
build the stuff together? Now both of them claiming they
came up with it, America and Israel claiming that they
came up with this idea to put it together right now,
what America is saying, at least the proponents for it,
they saying, Bro, if we do this, we still remain
because remember the executive is still coming from America. Baby,
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it's from the Pentagon, still in charge. We just using
their resources. Boy, it's still our, It's still ours. You
understand what I'm saying. I'm just saying like we can't
keep up, like if we're gonna keep being on top
of my nigga, Like you gotta get some homies. You
feel me, You gotta get a click? What is Riza
with our wu tang? You feel me? Like? What is
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Snoop without dre? Like you know you understand what I'm saying,
Like you got it? We gotta be already got the
That's what he's saying, like, and it makes us, keeps us,
it keeps us at the top of the food chain.
We're about to have stated the ourd stuff and we're
doing it with like half the resources because like my nigga,
you can't just be coming up here and just using us,
like let's just build it together. It lowers our overhead
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and we get to remain on top. The people against
it now, you ain't gotta worry about it right now
because it ain't passing the Senate. Senate was like, nigga,
you crazy, But the people speaking against it, it is
like I thought the job of the Congress was to
control the purse. Don't we the ones to get to
declare war? But we can't control Israel's purse. You don't
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promise something to your homeboy with money that you ain't
even got control of. You ever been volunteered or are
you in a relationship where you've been volunteer? Your mama
ever said that's okay, my mama, You said it all
to that's okay, Jason, Come do it like okay, So
I got it. You just told me you just promised
my labor to something that I wasn't prepared to give
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it to like that wasn't your well, I guess with
my mama, I'm black, it was her right to give
my labor to somebody else. But when you you just
promised my work, you promised money that you ain't got
access too. Why do you and now y'all, homie gotta
say and not of like if you like fair man,
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I don't sit right like you don't even go here.
Why do you get to say in what we building
or why we building? Like? No, man like, no, this
is our business. That's your business. You do your thing
and we'll do ours, and when it work together, will
work together. Like this relationship, nigga, we're not family cause
it's transactional. We not gang gang. That's y'all. This is
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us and when it works, it works. But like, I
don't want you. That's giving you too much authority in
my house. You welcome to come over, but you don't
get to decide what we have for dinner. You following me.
That's the opponents of it now. The only person, as
far as we could tell right now, that's speaking any sense,
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Bernie Sanders. That's like Israel's committing a genocide. I don't
understand what we're talking about at all? What is like,
how are we talking about any of this? Like? What
is what? I don't I don't understand? He like, can
we can we step back a step? Because according to
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the Futures Act, which is the Senate version of this
and this section two nineteen from the House, it is
a far gone conclusion that we just gonna keep integrating
with Israel. Now again, when we say integrating, I don't
mean we're becoming one military. It means we just sharing
resources and tech and supply chain and manufacturing. It's just like,
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let's just share the burden. But he the only one going.
Can we step back and ask, like, do we really
want to be attached to this brand forever? I just
I feel like I feel like maybe that's the question
we need to ask. Nobody asking that quest. So here's
the thing you decide for yourself. Okay, uh, if you
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think this might be a good idea, now listen, I
am not in the military services. My daddy is or was.
Some of y'all got people in the military, and at
some point in the same way I think I said
this before, in the same way that I will always
cheer for California, but not necessarily for the UN the
United States. Dummy, California is in the United States. When
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people ask me where I'm from, I don't say America.
I say Los Angeles. Los Angeles is in America, obviously,
but let that dissonance be cognitive. I feel like oftentimes
it's the same in the military. You got folks in
the military. I'm cheering from my cousin. You're set up
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saying I like my brother. But as far as what
the US is doing, I support that particular troupe. You
feel it's okay to have that. It's okay to have that. Like,
as far as I'm concerned, now, what that would mean
is you would hope that that man's kevlar and his
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tech and technology would keep him safe because you just
want your You want your kin folks to come home,
your sister to come home, your auntie to come home.
I just wanted to come home. I wanted to get
out of here safety, and I hope that y'all spending
enough to make sure that my family's safe. Does that
mean you good at blowing up an elementary girls school.
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I hope not. I don't think that's what it means,
but I do know, Hey, listen, hated, I love it.
We just gonna be clicked up from now on Pod politics. Y'all.
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