When the Barrio Athletics Club planned a Labor Day run, they intended to start in Leimert Park. For Black Los Angeles, Leimert Park is sacred ground. So this was a violation. The way this was handled shows us a few tips on how we can gain political power.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Okay. Before we get started for this one, I'm about
to talk about something called the Barrio Athletics Club. I
just kept calling it the Barrio Run Club this whole episode.
Just whenever you hear me say run club, what I'm
saying is actually athletics club. Please forgive me. I was
working too fast. Too excited about the point I was
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trying to make. All right. I'm saying Barrio Run Club.
I mean Barrio Athletics Club. Okay. So at this point,
this has already happened. The Barrio Run Club was planning
a 5k run something beautiful is put together in south
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central los angeles now south central already has a run
club but the body of run club is a younger
one and they were putting together a run club i
don't know if you're hip to culture now that like
yeah people run for fun these days also because you
know there's no other times they get to see people
in real life because we're stuck to our phones it's
a great thing uh the issue was the plan was
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it for it to start um in lemert park now
If you're not from here, you probably don't know the
significance of that. And that's what this episode is going
to be about and the lessons we can learn from this.
I'm not sure this is a tap in or full episode.
It depends on how long this goes. So I don't
want to do the big, you know, hood politics, y'all,
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or tap in with me. So just hood politics, y'all,
tap in with me. Okay, here we go. This is
very Los Angeles, but I think that there are three
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strong lessons we can learn from this situation. The run
happened on September 6th. It was a Labor Day run, right? Now,
barrio is Spanish slang for neighborhood. So like you from
the barrio, like how we would say we're from the hood.
I shouldn't, I know this is rudimentary. I know this
is like preschool level, but I need you to understand this. Uh,
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South Central Los Angeles for probably most of the last
hundred years was the place where the Black population of
Los Angeles existed in for the most part. Granted, we're
all over the place, but for the most part, it's
been there. Now, we all keep it in mind that
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California is Mexico. So We have been living in conjunction
and in community with the Mexican community, as far as
Black people are concerned, our whole lives. Elementary, junior high,
high school, your principal was Ms. Gonzalez. We have lived
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among each other. Now, y'all know my backstory. I've specifically
lived on the borderlands between the two neighborhoods anyway. The
point is, it was... Our lines were, but our neighborhoods
were pretty much understood as our neighborhoods. Now, as the
population of the Mexican-American community and immigrant community has gone
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so large, a lot of the spaces where Black people
have existed has, just the reality is, it's shrunken. Whether
it's housing vouchers, gentrification, or just being just severely outnumbered.
The Black population of Los Angeles has shrunk over the last,
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let's say, just to be nice, let's say 50 years.
And in that, it's been very difficult to keep and
preserve a legacy or a culture. Now, my last living
elders from my grandmother's generation are still in South Central.
They're on 64th and Vermont, right? Um, that's a block
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from Gage and Hoover, which doesn't mean much to y'all
if you're not from here, but this is an area, um,
that is like the heart in part of the heart
of South central. Now the Crenshaw district is yeah. The
low riders, the cruising, you know, the scene in boys
in the hood, um, it's the Crenshaw district, right. Uh,
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it has been a place for black culture, um, black existence, um,
if you want to see the full expression from poverty
to affluence, it's the Crenshaw district. Like that's Dom Kennedy,
if you're familiar with him, Terrence Martin, the coffee shop
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in Insecure is actually Haroon. That takes place in a
place called Leimert Park. Now Leimert Park, if you're new
to the show, I've talked about this before. Leimert Park,
That's like our Harlem of the Harlem Renaissance fame. Leimert
Park is right off Crenshaw in an area that we
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would call the 40s. Now, for you to understand what
I mean by the 40s, where's Nipsey Hussle from? The 60s, right?
So it's the block of streets and also referring to
it as 40s is gang talk. That being said, the
Leimert Park Village was designed... actually to be a mirror
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image of Larchmont, which is up in Hollywood. Now, Larchmont
is where Conan O'Brien Studios are. That's off like Sunset, right?
So aesthetically, they're supposed to be mirror images of each other, right?
But if your families, you know, these are single family homes,
we're probably college graduates, but also you're surrounded by hood, right?
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In Leimert Park, that was, I mean, our jazz scene
when the jazz players would come in in the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s,
they came to Leimert Park. My earliest memories was my
dad bringing me to the Sunday market at Leimert Park
to see the drum circles, buy incense. He was also
buying weed, but I didn't know that then. All of
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my jewelry, my bracelets, chew sticks. And then ultimately, by
the time my generation came around, there was a place
called the Chaos Network. where with Dr. Ben Caldwell, who
was from UCLA, a part of like the Black Panther
movement that my father was a part of, right? Founded
this thing called the Chaos Network. And there was where
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Project Bloat happened. Project Bloat is the open mic that
almost all, unless it was like Unity or The Good Life,
which again was a generation before me. Like if you,
Unity was like Bigger B in Orlando. They threw this
hip hop event that, I mean, if you were in
the early 90s doing like B-boy rap, you was Mobb Deep.
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If you was like, you know, Nas, Common, you performed
at Unity. That was where you performed here, right? So anyway,
Project Blowed was the mid to late 90s where if
you wanted to rap in Los Angeles, you had to
go through that gauntlet, right? This is all at Leimert Park.
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Leimert Park is where you would find your Caribbean, your Jamaican,
your African, like if you wanted African prints, if you
wanted oils, incense, soaps, right? There's a Jamaican restaurant. It
is the full Black diaspora. And that has always been
understood as an arts district and a no-fly zone. Now,
when I say no-fly zone, what I'm saying is even
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the gangs know. Everyone knows Leimert Park is safe. You
don't touch it. Our elders established this. It's actually a
very beautiful thing. It's the one place that I know
of is a complete, like, autonomous safe zone. No one
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messes with Leimert Park. You talk to the elders. The
elders meet on Monday, right? My homeboy Chase Infinite that
runs the Haroon Coffee Shop, that's the one that is
modeled off on Insecure. That's there. It is... As someone
from Los Angeles, which means I'm not from Atlanta, I'm
not from these cities that have these vibrant, robust, black,
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fully Wakandas, that's where ours was, is in Leimert Park.
You can be a 30-year, 40-year OG there. You still
need to check in. Even the young guys, if we
wanted to pull up in Tailgate on a Sunday for
a game, we would get checked. My homeboy Badrew, who
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used to run, was like the manager of all the
Project Blow stuff. He's been an organizer over there for
over 30 years. If he tried to pull up with
some lowriders bumping the chronic, he would have got checked.
No one, we understand this place is sacred. Now, the
fierceness we defend this over is because of, like I said,
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the Black community spaces have continued to shrink, right? There's
just not as many neighborhoods. There's a neighborhood that my
nephew grew up in that hadn't been to it. in forever.
It was in Linwood. My whole life, I thought Linwood
was Black until I met my wife. And she was like, oh,
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my nephew lives in Linwood. I was like, where do
you live with Black people? She was like, what? There's
not even a sign in English in the city. There's
a volume of Mexicans that has caused areas, the Jefferson District,
West Adams. These are historic black neighborhoods. They are not
black anymore. They're Mexican. Now, we, again, we have lived
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among Mexicans our whole life, but there has been an
understanding that there are some things are sacred. I happen
to live in Boyle Heights, but I play it low.
Boyle Heights is a Mexican neighborhood. I'm right next to
Mariachi Plaza. That's y'all's place. We're right next to Oliveira Street.
That's your place. We understand that. And there's a matter
of like cultural respect. A few years ago, I did
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an episode about how even at the city council level,
there's an agreement among city council members to say that
we are going to agree that if you're black, even
if you grew up in this neighborhood, that is a
Latino neighborhood, Mexican neighborhood, you're not going to run for
office there and vice versa. Even if you grew up
in this district, This is a black district. We want
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to make sure we keep the leadership also black. That
is black and brown unity. That's what we do, right?
Don't let these people gas you up. Unless you're coming
from jail or for some gang stuff, we've really been
living with each other forever. Amigo, oh, amigo, how are you? Like,
that's the way they talk to us. We'd be like, primo. Like,
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you know, it's always been fun. It's Juan Carlo, put
your speakers into your lowrider. You feel me? We've lived
among each other forever. Again, unless you went to the
street stuff, there's really not, it's not a thing. Again,
unless you're from jail, unless you're from street stuff. Now,
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I don't want to, I feel like I'm revealing this
too early and I think this might become a full episode,
but because of zoning laws, because of districting and just
sheer racism, the black and brown neighborhoods as we know it,
they were designed and they were designed ultimately to keep
us out of the white affluent areas. Push us all
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down to one place. It's ultimately a process of white supremacy. California,
Los Angeles has its history. The area where the airport
is in Westchester, that was a black neighborhood. It was bulldozed.
There were laws here that if you owned a house,
you were not allowed to sell it to a Black family,
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a Jewish family, or a Mexican family. They would not approve,
the real estate laws would not approve the sales. The
10 Freeway was a Black neighborhood. Chavez Ravine, as in
where the Dodgers play, that was a Mexican neighborhood. They
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bulldozed it. They just bulldozed it to build Dodger Stadium.
It's a horrible story that at some point, maybe on
Behind the Bastards, I'll try to do one of those
episodes where I read it to him. But LA has
its history of this. We were forced to live on
top of each other. And when you're forced to live
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on top of each other, because of oppressive powers, it
causes you to fight over scraps. right? We're fighting over scraps,
very small pieces. And it is a way, in a
lot of ways, it is a very powerful tactic of
an oppressor. I cite the Rwandan genocide. These tribes, the
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two tribes that were, they were set up by the colonizer,
the Hutu, like those were, you guys are this, you
guys are this, you're in charge. Like, it's just, it
is a Well-known tactic. I don't know if the organizers,
the city planners of our city were that strategic, but
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more NIMBYs. They just don't want them colored folks in
their neighborhood. They feel like we bring down the property value.
And if you're an immigrant, you know, if you're coming
directly first gen Mexican, you're going to go where your
family at. You're going to go where the signs speak
your language and you're going to go where it's the cheapest.
And a lot of times that just happened to be
black neighborhoods. It was the ones y'all could afford. So
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that's how they ended up there. So you have to remember,
you're watching the Black community see our spaces shrink, right?
At the same time, we grew up with y'all. We
love y'all. Now, while prejudice absolutely exists in the Black
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community and colorism exists also in the Latino community, That
proximity to whiteness can like really, it really be messing
them up. There can be tension. But over the years,
we've worked that through. Now, enter this Barrio Run Club.
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They wanted to set up their run to start at
Leimert Park, right? And then run around sort of the
Crenshaw District. And black people lost it. Well, one particular
black person who viewed this as yet another encroachment on
the shrinking safe places for black people to exist. Our
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position was like, we've already conceded everything. Can we just have,
we're not going to concede Leimert Park. Now, This was
this particular person's opinion. And then even somebody stepped in
and said they was going to call ICE. And that's
when the leaders of the Merck Park stepped in and
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was like, look, that's not how we move. All it
took or can take is a phone call, is communication. Right.
So my initial thought was these guys are just young.
They're just they're I believe they were born and raised here.
They just don't understand the politics because they're just young.
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And brings me to my first point of what this
teaches us. It's intergenerational communication. Next. Yeah, this is clearly
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a full episode. So intergenerational communication, oftentimes what we see,
especially when it comes to us organizing to try to
knock down a revolution is oftentimes or try to kick
off the revolution. Oftentimes, if we don't communicate with our elders,
we're starting from scratch in a lot of ways. You
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lose what's called institutional knowledge, meaning there are people around
here that knows how to do what we do. This
is what the Democrat Democratic Party still has not figured
out is how to do this, because in their problem,
the elder generation is just trying to hold on to power.
You young niggas is weird. Right. They're just trying to
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hold on to power. And they think these young whippersnappers
don't understand the movement. And they're and they're robbing them
from power. You're taking our seats from us. which is
why we can't get a unified message out of the
Democratic Party, why these old people can't for the life
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of them understand why we voted for Imam Dhani, why
we're voting for... nithya why like why are these like
dsa like uh candidates winning instead you mad at hasan
piker you feel me for just saying it was like
y'all been saying you wanted the joe rogan of the
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left nigga you got one and then he became y'all's
like purity test like we had like a man who
could communicate the positions and what's crazy is y'all mad
at the candidates for saying the things that we voted
for You trying to figure you mad at them. And
I'm like, well, they won because we voted for him.
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I feel like your anger is going the wrong direction.
I don't understand what you don't understand. So these elders,
these intergenerational communication in that sense is being stopped by
the elders. They just want to hold on to power. Well,
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that's how you become a dinosaur. Remember we talked about
being an OG instead of an old head? That's how
you become an old head. You age out. You immediately,
you're proverbial in your throwback jersey with your baseball cap
copped to the side a little bit. Jumping in the cypher,
rapping about pyramids. You're not listening to the young homies.
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You have authority. a role. This is why you are
going to get a Merce Appreciation podcast. Oh, you already
got it. No, no, no. That's probably going to be
this Friday. I don't know when I'm ordering this. But
this is why you go get a Merce Appreciation podcast.
It's because That is intergenerational knowledge that he's passing on.
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And when that happens, you give your OGs your flowers, right?
We're not starting from scratch where the baton is being passed.
I'm learning from there. I'm amalgamating and sort of digesting
the wisdom, the things that we already fought for so
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that I don't create a problem that I don't necessarily need.
In this particular situation, I think it might've been just, again,
it was just an issue of ignorance. I don't know
the organizers of the Barrio Run Club, but the young
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man said he was born and raised in South Central. Okay,
one of his OGs should have said, ah, you need to,
if that's Leimert Park, you should probably tap in. You
should probably go talk to them first because the Sunday market, is,
as far as I know, it's at least five decades old.
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It's been going on for at least 50 years. Of
my knowledge. That's what I'm trying to say. Like, I
don't even know what happened before me. I was already
born into a vibrant community at the Mer Park, right?
So intergenerational communication at the grassroots level and at the
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political level, which is what we see and where the
Democrats are falling apart, I feel like had that been
communicated to the young homie, he would have already known or,
and probably would have never even made the decision in
the first place. Once the temperature got turnt up, when
somebody was talking about, y'all come over there, we calling ice,
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which is some ignorant shit. The beauty of the elders
was when they finally stepped in. The elders of Leimert
Park was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Leimert Park's a safe zone for culture. We understand this
is our black space, but we don't move like that.
That's some bullshit.
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Y'all don't talk to us. Tell Lil Homie come
over here. And Lil Homie was on the radio, was
on our black station out here, KJLH. And they had
a conversation about it. And it was exactly what I thought.
Lil Homie ain't mean no disrespect. He didn't mean no disrespect.
He just didn't know. Now, this brings me to our
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next lesson communication or assume the best as black people
and in term people of color okay the the the
collection the diaspora of the like like badrew says The
beans and rice people of the world, whether we talk
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rice on peas, black beans and rice, you know, refried
pinto beans and rice, the collection of beans and rice people, right?
This is why, as we talked before, and Andrew on
the It Could Happen Here pod did an amazing, like,
I want to bring it into mind, discussion on the
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divide over World War I of the anarchist movement of Europe, right?
So in that, he talked about the solidarity between oppressed
people across the world. I am in, I have more
in common with the proverbial black people and sometimes the
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literal black people across the world than I do the
upper middle-class, wealthy, elite group of Californians. I got more
in common with this Palestinian refugee than I do somebody
that live in Orange County, right? Because of their experience
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brought upon by the institutional power that we exist in.
Does that make sense? So in my experience, I assume
that other person of color And I feel like this
is the stance of black people. Black people's assumption, of course,
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there's variations, there's exceptions, there's millions of exceptions. Maybe I'm
talking about black people from multicultural major metropolitans. I'm going
to assume, because you live in the same projects as me,
you understand me. In New York, they call him the
Spanish dude. You know, Spanish Jose live down the street.
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What's up? What's up, Paco? You gonna assume that he know,
because he in the same streets I'm in. And that
black dude over there might be Dominican. You understand what
I'm saying? Now, this is from the black community. Now, obviously,
like I said, colorism is deep in the Latino diaspora.
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Deep in it. But at the end of the day,
We understand when the worst come to worst, we're going
to sit in the back of that. We're in the
back of the same squad car. Right? When the police come,
they beating us. So there is an assumption, I think,
that could serve us all. If I am going to
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first assume, before I get mad at the body or
run club and say this is an invasion, I'm going
to say, little homie probably don't know. So a DM. Hey, bro. Hey,
let me holler at you real quick. I got to
talk to you about this Leimert Park thing because it's
a problem. OK, there's an issue like I'm black and
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I wouldn't even do this. Like I've been going to
Leimert Park my whole life. I wouldn't do this, especially
on a Sunday. Let's go have lunch. And if you assume.
That this person is not part of the oppressors is
not a tool of the oppressor. then what we create
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is more political power, right? If you understand that again,
we still fighting across, we still fighting for a small
piece of this land because we were pushed down here.
We understand that we have a common enemy and it's
not each other. Me and you just needed to have
a conversation. And once me and you have a conversation
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about how we misunderstanding each other, then I can go
back to my neighborhood and say, hey, look, that's not
what Juan Carlo meant. He was just trying to do this,
this and this. And besides, didn't you go to school
with his cousin? Listen, if it's street stuff, you went
to school with Jose all the way up to middle school.
And then the gang shit started happening. And your OG
said you can't hang with Jose no more. And Jose's
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OG said he can't hang with me no more. It
wasn't us. We was at the same head start. Your
mom made us pozole. We don't have a thing. Does
that make sense? So when you assume that this other
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person from an oppressed group understands oppression, then I can
come to him and say, hey, dude, look, this is
going to be a difficult conversation. But the reality is
the neighborhood you grew up in used to be a
black neighborhood. And now it's not. And we just kind
of feel like we're running out of places. to exist.
But even on top of that, it's not that you're
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not welcome here. It's that this is sacred. Leimert Park
is sacred. There are some places that we consider sacred, right?
And the only comparison I can think of, like I said,
out here would be Mariachi Plaza or Alvera Street, where
it's like, it's not that we're not welcome here. We
just understand that it's sacred and that like, A check-in first,
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a co-sign first, and an inclusion of you because this
is your neighborhood should go first. And when I heard
little homie talk, it was just that. He just didn't know.
He just didn't know. And that's fine. It's okay to
not know. But I am going to assume that that's
what it was until you show me different. If you
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show me different and he had responded with some arrogance,
it would have been a different story. But listen. The
revolution can take place when we come to the table
with a little bit of humility. And I'm going to
assume that you understand that until you show me till
you show me you don't. Then I'm like, are you
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a part of the movement? It is what it is.
You've made yourself an op. Right. But I don't want
to assume that you are. And then lastly, like I said,
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when we do this, we create political power. So then
rather than some sort of council member or politician who
attempts to redistrict our neighborhoods, right, to consolidate power for
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the purpose of, like we're seeing right now on the
national level, keeping the Republicans in power, right? Or for
the purpose of understanding that there's just, again, by sheer volume,
there's more Latinos here. Which means we don't have to
concern ourselves with the needs of the Black community because
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it's not enough for y'all to put me in power.
When we understand that we work together in solidarity, then
they can't do that to us. Because the reality is,
whether it's Garfield High, Roosevelt High, or Jefferson, Dorsey, or Crenshaw,
the first two are in Latino neighborhoods and the other
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ones are in Black neighborhoods. Whether it's that, none of us,
none of us, none of us have the budget of Hamilton,
which is a high school on the West Side, Santa Monica.
None of us got that budget. So while we fighting
over crumbs amongst each other, we should be able to
stand in front of the city hall or in front
of the county office and be like, well, the difference
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is we actually, we're neighbors. So what affects that family
affects our family. It was the beauty of kind of
what happened when the ice raid started happening. We locked
in immediately, organized. Y'all was on my feed. We raised money.
We did grocery drop-offs. Why? Because they're already my neighbors.
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Like we already live here. There was cross-cultural communication and
a creative political power. In Monterey Park, they were organizing
like patrols that they were able to stand up within
an hour. Why? Because they already know each other. We're
already connected. And you know what Monterey Park did? They
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made sure a data center couldn't come. Because it was
already organized. You can't pit our communities against each other
if we already communicate with each other. We have a
solidarity among the oppressed rather than a zip code. You
feel me? And when you understand that, there's a lot
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of things that probably won't happen. Now, I'm going to
tie this into the LA could never, like why we
can't get a Zoran Mamdani, right? And if you followed
that show, the point was, it's not that we would
not elect a progressive. It's that our mayor just doesn't
have that much authority as the New York mayor does.
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Which says to me, if we get together as the
oppressed and we put people as council members and as
county supervisors that we know understand our experience, then collectively,
we put a Zoran in power. Collectively, these bus lines
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start doubling. This childcare price starts dropping. Collectively, we stop
seeing these city zoning laws where they chipping off parts
of East LA because East LA is unincorporated. We're watching,
that's where the lineage fire happened. Y'all know, are y'all
hip to the lineage fire? So there was a cold
storage warehouse that, caught on fire a few weeks ago
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that's maybe about 10 minutes from my house and every
hour or so i get this whiff of rotting flesh
because they just let the food rot when the fire
happened at the cold storage unit they're passing out air
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filters we went and got one it was passing out
food vouchers we didn't get one will they be held
accountable Who's to say? Unless we all hold him accountable.
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So this episode isn't necessarily about the run club or
even the sacredness of Leimert Park. But it is about
the reality that some places should be sacred. There are
times that, you know, when my wife wants to get
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together with her other lady friends, as much of an
ally as I am, it's not for me to be there.
That's a place for them. And I should respect that.
It's not a diss to me at all. I'll stay
away for a couple nights. If you going, that's what
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you need to do, that's what you need to do.
But it's more about the fact that like, how much
louder can we chant down Babylon if we just had
a communication, if we just talked to each other, figured
this out. How this ended was now, Hopefully, I'm recording
this before it actually happened. I don't think anything went down.
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They moved to Elysian Park. Elysian Park is up near Chinatown,
near downtown, which is pretty far from South Central. But
out of respect, and I give kudos to the Barrio
Run Club for doing this. Out of respect, they just moved.
They're like, look, dude, we're not your enemy. You know
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what I'm saying? He's like, I'm born and raised in
South Central. I'm not your enemy. I admit no disrespect.
And kudos to the black community for being like, not
being like, nah, fuck that miracle. No, they was like, yeah,
I appreciate that, bro. They was able to shake hands
and move on. Now, there is a South Central Run
Club that exists for the black and brown unity that
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already exists. And again, had the young homie checked in,
had they had generational knowledge, probably would have known that exists.
But you know what, man? This ended well. I'm proud
of us to live and die in L.A. Black love,
brown pride. Hood Politics. All right, now, don't you hit
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Okay. Before we get started for this one, I'm about
to talk about something called the Barrio Athletics Club. I
just kept calling it the Barrio Run Club this whole episode.
Just whenever you hear me say run club, what I'm
saying is actually athletics club. Please forgive me. I was
working too fast. Too excited about the point I was
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trying to make. All right. I'm saying Barrio Run Club.
I mean Barrio Athletics Club. Okay. So at this point,
this has already happened. The Barrio Run Club was planning
a 5k run something beautiful is put together in south
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central los angeles now south central already has a run
club but the body of run club is a younger
one and they were putting together a run club i
don't know if you're hip to culture now that like
yeah people run for fun these days also because you
know there's no other times they get to see people
in real life because we're stuck to our phones it's
a great thing uh the issue was the plan was
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it for it to start um in lemert park now
If you're not from here, you probably don't know the
significance of that. And that's what this episode is going
to be about and the lessons we can learn from this.
I'm not sure this is a tap in or full episode.
It depends on how long this goes. So I don't
want to do the big, you know, hood politics, y'all,
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or tap in with me. So just hood politics, y'all,
tap in with me. Okay, here we go. This is
very Los Angeles, but I think that there are three
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strong lessons we can learn from this situation. The run
happened on September 6th. It was a Labor Day run, right? Now,
barrio is Spanish slang for neighborhood. So like you from
the barrio, like how we would say we're from the hood.
I shouldn't, I know this is rudimentary. I know this
is like preschool level, but I need you to understand this. Uh,
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South Central Los Angeles for probably most of the last
hundred years was the place where the Black population of
Los Angeles existed in for the most part. Granted, we're
all over the place, but for the most part, it's
been there. Now, we all keep it in mind that
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California is Mexico. So We have been living in conjunction
and in community with the Mexican community, as far as
Black people are concerned, our whole lives. Elementary, junior high,
high school, your principal was Ms. Gonzalez. We have lived
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among each other. Now, y'all know my backstory. I've specifically
lived on the borderlands between the two neighborhoods anyway. The
point is, it was... Our lines were, but our neighborhoods
were pretty much understood as our neighborhoods. Now, as the
population of the Mexican-American community and immigrant community has gone
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so large, a lot of the spaces where Black people
have existed has, just the reality is, it's shrunken. Whether
it's housing vouchers, gentrification, or just being just severely outnumbered.
The Black population of Los Angeles has shrunk over the last,
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let's say, just to be nice, let's say 50 years.
And in that, it's been very difficult to keep and
preserve a legacy or a culture. Now, my last living
elders from my grandmother's generation are still in South Central.
They're on 64th and Vermont, right? Um, that's a block
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from Gage and Hoover, which doesn't mean much to y'all
if you're not from here, but this is an area, um,
that is like the heart in part of the heart
of South central. Now the Crenshaw district is yeah. The
low riders, the cruising, you know, the scene in boys
in the hood, um, it's the Crenshaw district, right. Uh,
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it has been a place for black culture, um, black existence, um,
if you want to see the full expression from poverty
to affluence, it's the Crenshaw district. Like that's Dom Kennedy,
if you're familiar with him, Terrence Martin, the coffee shop
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in Insecure is actually Haroon. That takes place in a
place called Leimert Park. Now Leimert Park, if you're new
to the show, I've talked about this before. Leimert Park,
That's like our Harlem of the Harlem Renaissance fame. Leimert
Park is right off Crenshaw in an area that we
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would call the 40s. Now, for you to understand what
I mean by the 40s, where's Nipsey Hussle from? The 60s, right?
So it's the block of streets and also referring to
it as 40s is gang talk. That being said, the
Leimert Park Village was designed... actually to be a mirror
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image of Larchmont, which is up in Hollywood. Now, Larchmont
is where Conan O'Brien Studios are. That's off like Sunset, right?
So aesthetically, they're supposed to be mirror images of each other, right?
But if your families, you know, these are single family homes,
we're probably college graduates, but also you're surrounded by hood, right?
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In Leimert Park, that was, I mean, our jazz scene
when the jazz players would come in in the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s,
they came to Leimert Park. My earliest memories was my
dad bringing me to the Sunday market at Leimert Park
to see the drum circles, buy incense. He was also
buying weed, but I didn't know that then. All of
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my jewelry, my bracelets, chew sticks. And then ultimately, by
the time my generation came around, there was a place
called the Chaos Network. where with Dr. Ben Caldwell, who
was from UCLA, a part of like the Black Panther
movement that my father was a part of, right? Founded
this thing called the Chaos Network. And there was where
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Project Bloat happened. Project Bloat is the open mic that
almost all, unless it was like Unity or The Good Life,
which again was a generation before me. Like if you,
Unity was like Bigger B in Orlando. They threw this
hip hop event that, I mean, if you were in
the early 90s doing like B-boy rap, you was Mobb Deep.
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If you was like, you know, Nas, Common, you performed
at Unity. That was where you performed here, right? So anyway,
Project Blowed was the mid to late 90s where if
you wanted to rap in Los Angeles, you had to
go through that gauntlet, right? This is all at Leimert Park.
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Leimert Park is where you would find your Caribbean, your Jamaican,
your African, like if you wanted African prints, if you
wanted oils, incense, soaps, right? There's a Jamaican restaurant. It
is the full Black diaspora. And that has always been
understood as an arts district and a no-fly zone. Now,
when I say no-fly zone, what I'm saying is even
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the gangs know. Everyone knows Leimert Park is safe. You
don't touch it. Our elders established this. It's actually a
very beautiful thing. It's the one place that I know
of is a complete, like, autonomous safe zone. No one
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messes with Leimert Park. You talk to the elders. The
elders meet on Monday, right? My homeboy Chase Infinite that
runs the Haroon Coffee Shop, that's the one that is
modeled off on Insecure. That's there. It is... As someone
from Los Angeles, which means I'm not from Atlanta, I'm
not from these cities that have these vibrant, robust, black,
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fully Wakandas, that's where ours was, is in Leimert Park.
You can be a 30-year, 40-year OG there. You still
need to check in. Even the young guys, if we
wanted to pull up in Tailgate on a Sunday for
a game, we would get checked. My homeboy Badrew, who
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used to run, was like the manager of all the
Project Blow stuff. He's been an organizer over there for
over 30 years. If he tried to pull up with
some lowriders bumping the chronic, he would have got checked.
No one, we understand this place is sacred. Now, the
fierceness we defend this over is because of, like I said,
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the Black community spaces have continued to shrink, right? There's
just not as many neighborhoods. There's a neighborhood that my
nephew grew up in that hadn't been to it. in forever.
It was in Linwood. My whole life, I thought Linwood
was Black until I met my wife. And she was like, oh,
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my nephew lives in Linwood. I was like, where do
you live with Black people? She was like, what? There's
not even a sign in English in the city. There's
a volume of Mexicans that has caused areas, the Jefferson District,
West Adams. These are historic black neighborhoods. They are not
black anymore. They're Mexican. Now, we, again, we have lived
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among Mexicans our whole life, but there has been an
understanding that there are some things are sacred. I happen
to live in Boyle Heights, but I play it low.
Boyle Heights is a Mexican neighborhood. I'm right next to
Mariachi Plaza. That's y'all's place. We're right next to Oliveira Street.
That's your place. We understand that. And there's a matter
of like cultural respect. A few years ago, I did
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an episode about how even at the city council level,
there's an agreement among city council members to say that
we are going to agree that if you're black, even
if you grew up in this neighborhood, that is a
Latino neighborhood, Mexican neighborhood, you're not going to run for
office there and vice versa. Even if you grew up
in this district, This is a black district. We want
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to make sure we keep the leadership also black. That
is black and brown unity. That's what we do, right?
Don't let these people gas you up. Unless you're coming
from jail or for some gang stuff, we've really been
living with each other forever. Amigo, oh, amigo, how are you? Like,
that's the way they talk to us. We'd be like, primo. Like,
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you know, it's always been fun. It's Juan Carlo, put
your speakers into your lowrider. You feel me? We've lived
among each other forever. Again, unless you went to the
street stuff, there's really not, it's not a thing. Again,
unless you're from jail, unless you're from street stuff. Now,
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I don't want to, I feel like I'm revealing this
too early and I think this might become a full episode,
but because of zoning laws, because of districting and just
sheer racism, the black and brown neighborhoods as we know it,
they were designed and they were designed ultimately to keep
us out of the white affluent areas. Push us all
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down to one place. It's ultimately a process of white supremacy. California,
Los Angeles has its history. The area where the airport
is in Westchester, that was a black neighborhood. It was bulldozed.
There were laws here that if you owned a house,
you were not allowed to sell it to a Black family,
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a Jewish family, or a Mexican family. They would not approve,
the real estate laws would not approve the sales. The
10 Freeway was a Black neighborhood. Chavez Ravine, as in
where the Dodgers play, that was a Mexican neighborhood. They
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bulldozed it. They just bulldozed it to build Dodger Stadium.
It's a horrible story that at some point, maybe on
Behind the Bastards, I'll try to do one of those
episodes where I read it to him. But LA has
its history of this. We were forced to live on
top of each other. And when you're forced to live
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on top of each other, because of oppressive powers, it
causes you to fight over scraps. right? We're fighting over scraps,
very small pieces. And it is a way, in a
lot of ways, it is a very powerful tactic of
an oppressor. I cite the Rwandan genocide. These tribes, the
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two tribes that were, they were set up by the colonizer,
the Hutu, like those were, you guys are this, you
guys are this, you're in charge. Like, it's just, it
is a Well-known tactic. I don't know if the organizers,
the city planners of our city were that strategic, but
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more NIMBYs. They just don't want them colored folks in
their neighborhood. They feel like we bring down the property value.
And if you're an immigrant, you know, if you're coming
directly first gen Mexican, you're going to go where your
family at. You're going to go where the signs speak
your language and you're going to go where it's the cheapest.
And a lot of times that just happened to be
black neighborhoods. It was the ones y'all could afford. So
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that's how they ended up there. So you have to remember,
you're watching the Black community see our spaces shrink, right?
At the same time, we grew up with y'all. We
love y'all. Now, while prejudice absolutely exists in the Black
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community and colorism exists also in the Latino community, That
proximity to whiteness can like really, it really be messing
them up. There can be tension. But over the years,
we've worked that through. Now, enter this Barrio Run Club.
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They wanted to set up their run to start at
Leimert Park, right? And then run around sort of the
Crenshaw District. And black people lost it. Well, one particular
black person who viewed this as yet another encroachment on
the shrinking safe places for black people to exist. Our
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position was like, we've already conceded everything. Can we just have,
we're not going to concede Leimert Park. Now, This was
this particular person's opinion. And then even somebody stepped in
and said they was going to call ICE. And that's
when the leaders of the Merck Park stepped in and
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was like, look, that's not how we move. All it
took or can take is a phone call, is communication. Right.
So my initial thought was these guys are just young.
They're just they're I believe they were born and raised here.
They just don't understand the politics because they're just young.
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And brings me to my first point of what this
teaches us. It's intergenerational communication. Next. Yeah, this is clearly
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a full episode. So intergenerational communication, oftentimes what we see,
especially when it comes to us organizing to try to
knock down a revolution is oftentimes or try to kick
off the revolution. Oftentimes, if we don't communicate with our elders,
we're starting from scratch in a lot of ways. You
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lose what's called institutional knowledge, meaning there are people around
here that knows how to do what we do. This
is what the Democrat Democratic Party still has not figured
out is how to do this, because in their problem,
the elder generation is just trying to hold on to power.
You young niggas is weird. Right. They're just trying to
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hold on to power. And they think these young whippersnappers
don't understand the movement. And they're and they're robbing them
from power. You're taking our seats from us. which is
why we can't get a unified message out of the
Democratic Party, why these old people can't for the life
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of them understand why we voted for Imam Dhani, why
we're voting for... nithya why like why are these like
dsa like uh candidates winning instead you mad at hasan
piker you feel me for just saying it was like
y'all been saying you wanted the joe rogan of the
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left nigga you got one and then he became y'all's
like purity test like we had like a man who
could communicate the positions and what's crazy is y'all mad
at the candidates for saying the things that we voted
for You trying to figure you mad at them. And
I'm like, well, they won because we voted for him.
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I feel like your anger is going the wrong direction.
I don't understand what you don't understand. So these elders,
these intergenerational communication in that sense is being stopped by
the elders. They just want to hold on to power. Well,
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that's how you become a dinosaur. Remember we talked about
being an OG instead of an old head? That's how
you become an old head. You age out. You immediately,
you're proverbial in your throwback jersey with your baseball cap
copped to the side a little bit. Jumping in the cypher,
rapping about pyramids. You're not listening to the young homies.
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You have authority. a role. This is why you are
going to get a Merce Appreciation podcast. Oh, you already
got it. No, no, no. That's probably going to be
this Friday. I don't know when I'm ordering this. But
this is why you go get a Merce Appreciation podcast.
It's because That is intergenerational knowledge that he's passing on.
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And when that happens, you give your OGs your flowers, right?
We're not starting from scratch where the baton is being passed.
I'm learning from there. I'm amalgamating and sort of digesting
the wisdom, the things that we already fought for so
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that I don't create a problem that I don't necessarily need.
In this particular situation, I think it might've been just, again,
it was just an issue of ignorance. I don't know
the organizers of the Barrio Run Club, but the young
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man said he was born and raised in South Central. Okay,
one of his OGs should have said, ah, you need to,
if that's Leimert Park, you should probably tap in. You
should probably go talk to them first because the Sunday market, is,
as far as I know, it's at least five decades old.
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It's been going on for at least 50 years. Of
my knowledge. That's what I'm trying to say. Like, I
don't even know what happened before me. I was already
born into a vibrant community at the Mer Park, right?
So intergenerational communication at the grassroots level and at the
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political level, which is what we see and where the
Democrats are falling apart, I feel like had that been
communicated to the young homie, he would have already known or,
and probably would have never even made the decision in
the first place. Once the temperature got turnt up, when
somebody was talking about, y'all come over there, we calling ice,
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which is some ignorant shit. The beauty of the elders
was when they finally stepped in. The elders of Leimert
Park was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Leimert Park's a safe zone for culture. We understand this
is our black space, but we don't move like that.
That's some bullshit.
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over here. And Lil Homie was on the radio, was
on our black station out here, KJLH. And they had
a conversation about it. And it was exactly what I thought.
Lil Homie ain't mean no disrespect. He didn't mean no disrespect.
He just didn't know. Now, this brings me to our
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next lesson communication or assume the best as black people
and in term people of color okay the the the
collection the diaspora of the like like badrew says The
beans and rice people of the world, whether we talk
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rice on peas, black beans and rice, you know, refried
pinto beans and rice, the collection of beans and rice people, right?
This is why, as we talked before, and Andrew on
the It Could Happen Here pod did an amazing, like,
I want to bring it into mind, discussion on the
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divide over World War I of the anarchist movement of Europe, right?
So in that, he talked about the solidarity between oppressed
people across the world. I am in, I have more
in common with the proverbial black people and sometimes the
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literal black people across the world than I do the
upper middle-class, wealthy, elite group of Californians. I got more
in common with this Palestinian refugee than I do somebody
that live in Orange County, right? Because of their experience
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brought upon by the institutional power that we exist in.
Does that make sense? So in my experience, I assume
that other person of color And I feel like this
is the stance of black people. Black people's assumption, of course,
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there's variations, there's exceptions, there's millions of exceptions. Maybe I'm
talking about black people from multicultural major metropolitans. I'm going
to assume, because you live in the same projects as me,
you understand me. In New York, they call him the
Spanish dude. You know, Spanish Jose live down the street.
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What's up? What's up, Paco? You gonna assume that he know,
because he in the same streets I'm in. And that
black dude over there might be Dominican. You understand what
I'm saying? Now, this is from the black community. Now, obviously,
like I said, colorism is deep in the Latino diaspora.
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Deep in it. But at the end of the day,
We understand when the worst come to worst, we're going
to sit in the back of that. We're in the
back of the same squad car. Right? When the police come,
they beating us. So there is an assumption, I think,
that could serve us all. If I am going to
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first assume, before I get mad at the body or
run club and say this is an invasion, I'm going
to say, little homie probably don't know. So a DM. Hey, bro. Hey,
let me holler at you real quick. I got to
talk to you about this Leimert Park thing because it's
a problem. OK, there's an issue like I'm black and
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I wouldn't even do this. Like I've been going to
Leimert Park my whole life. I wouldn't do this, especially
on a Sunday. Let's go have lunch. And if you assume.
That this person is not part of the oppressors is
not a tool of the oppressor. then what we create
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is more political power, right? If you understand that again,
we still fighting across, we still fighting for a small
piece of this land because we were pushed down here.
We understand that we have a common enemy and it's
not each other. Me and you just needed to have
a conversation. And once me and you have a conversation
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about how we misunderstanding each other, then I can go
back to my neighborhood and say, hey, look, that's not
what Juan Carlo meant. He was just trying to do this,
this and this. And besides, didn't you go to school
with his cousin? Listen, if it's street stuff, you went
to school with Jose all the way up to middle school.
And then the gang shit started happening. And your OG
said you can't hang with Jose no more. And Jose's
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OG said he can't hang with me no more. It
wasn't us. We was at the same head start. Your
mom made us pozole. We don't have a thing. Does
that make sense? So when you assume that this other
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person from an oppressed group understands oppression, then I can
come to him and say, hey, dude, look, this is
going to be a difficult conversation. But the reality is
the neighborhood you grew up in used to be a
black neighborhood. And now it's not. And we just kind
of feel like we're running out of places. to exist.
But even on top of that, it's not that you're
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not welcome here. It's that this is sacred. Leimert Park
is sacred. There are some places that we consider sacred, right?
And the only comparison I can think of, like I said,
out here would be Mariachi Plaza or Alvera Street, where
it's like, it's not that we're not welcome here. We
just understand that it's sacred and that like, A check-in first,
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a co-sign first, and an inclusion of you because this
is your neighborhood should go first. And when I heard
little homie talk, it was just that. He just didn't know.
He just didn't know. And that's fine. It's okay to
not know. But I am going to assume that that's
what it was until you show me different. If you
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show me different and he had responded with some arrogance,
it would have been a different story. But listen. The
revolution can take place when we come to the table
with a little bit of humility. And I'm going to
assume that you understand that until you show me till
you show me you don't. Then I'm like, are you
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a part of the movement? It is what it is.
You've made yourself an op. Right. But I don't want
to assume that you are. And then lastly, like I said,
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when we do this, we create political power. So then
rather than some sort of council member or politician who
attempts to redistrict our neighborhoods, right, to consolidate power for
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the purpose of, like we're seeing right now on the
national level, keeping the Republicans in power, right? Or for
the purpose of understanding that there's just, again, by sheer volume,
there's more Latinos here. Which means we don't have to
concern ourselves with the needs of the Black community because
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it's not enough for y'all to put me in power.
When we understand that we work together in solidarity, then
they can't do that to us. Because the reality is,
whether it's Garfield High, Roosevelt High, or Jefferson, Dorsey, or Crenshaw,
the first two are in Latino neighborhoods and the other
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ones are in Black neighborhoods. Whether it's that, none of us,
none of us, none of us have the budget of Hamilton,
which is a high school on the West Side, Santa Monica.
None of us got that budget. So while we fighting
over crumbs amongst each other, we should be able to
stand in front of the city hall or in front
of the county office and be like, well, the difference
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is we actually, we're neighbors. So what affects that family
affects our family. It was the beauty of kind of
what happened when the ice raid started happening. We locked
in immediately, organized. Y'all was on my feed. We raised money.
We did grocery drop-offs. Why? Because they're already my neighbors.
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Like we already live here. There was cross-cultural communication and
a creative political power. In Monterey Park, they were organizing
like patrols that they were able to stand up within
an hour. Why? Because they already know each other. We're
already connected. And you know what Monterey Park did? They
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made sure a data center couldn't come. Because it was
already organized. You can't pit our communities against each other
if we already communicate with each other. We have a
solidarity among the oppressed rather than a zip code. You
feel me? And when you understand that, there's a lot
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of things that probably won't happen. Now, I'm going to
tie this into the LA could never, like why we
can't get a Zoran Mamdani, right? And if you followed
that show, the point was, it's not that we would
not elect a progressive. It's that our mayor just doesn't
have that much authority as the New York mayor does.
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Which says to me, if we get together as the
oppressed and we put people as council members and as
county supervisors that we know understand our experience, then collectively,
we put a Zoran in power. Collectively, these bus lines
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start doubling. This childcare price starts dropping. Collectively, we stop
seeing these city zoning laws where they chipping off parts
of East LA because East LA is unincorporated. We're watching,
that's where the lineage fire happened. Y'all know, are y'all
hip to the lineage fire? So there was a cold
storage warehouse that, caught on fire a few weeks ago
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that's maybe about 10 minutes from my house and every
hour or so i get this whiff of rotting flesh
because they just let the food rot when the fire
happened at the cold storage unit they're passing out air
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filters we went and got one it was passing out
food vouchers we didn't get one will they be held
accountable Who's to say? Unless we all hold him accountable.
(34:34):
So this episode isn't necessarily about the run club or
even the sacredness of Leimert Park. But it is about
the reality that some places should be sacred. There are
times that, you know, when my wife wants to get
(34:57):
together with her other lady friends, as much of an
ally as I am, it's not for me to be there.
That's a place for them. And I should respect that.
It's not a diss to me at all. I'll stay
away for a couple nights. If you going, that's what
(35:18):
you need to do, that's what you need to do.
But it's more about the fact that like, how much
louder can we chant down Babylon if we just had
a communication, if we just talked to each other, figured
this out. How this ended was now, Hopefully, I'm recording
this before it actually happened. I don't think anything went down.
(35:40):
They moved to Elysian Park. Elysian Park is up near Chinatown,
near downtown, which is pretty far from South Central. But
out of respect, and I give kudos to the Barrio
Run Club for doing this. Out of respect, they just moved.
They're like, look, dude, we're not your enemy. You know
(36:01):
what I'm saying? He's like, I'm born and raised in
South Central. I'm not your enemy. I admit no disrespect.
And kudos to the black community for being like, not
being like, nah, fuck that miracle. No, they was like, yeah,
I appreciate that, bro. They was able to shake hands
and move on. Now, there is a South Central Run
Club that exists for the black and brown unity that
(36:24):
already exists. And again, had the young homie checked in,
had they had generational knowledge, probably would have known that exists.
But you know what, man? This ended well. I'm proud
of us to live and die in L.A. Black love,
brown pride. Hood Politics. All right, now, don't you hit
(36:56):
stop on this pod. You better listen to these credits.
I need you to finish this thing so I can
get the download numbers, okay? So don't stop it yet.
But listen, this was recorded in East Los Boyle Heights
by your boy Propaganda. Tap in with me at PropHipHop.com.
If you're into cold brew coffee, we got Terraform Cold Brew.
(37:18):
You can go there,. com, and use promo code HOOD.
Get 20% off. Get yourself some coffee. This was mixed, edited,
and mastered by your boy Matt Osowski, killing the beat softly.
Check out his website, mattosowski.com. I'm going to spell it
for you because I know. M-A-T-T-O-S-O-W-S-K-I.com. mattosowski.com. He got more
(37:44):
music and stuff like that on there, so go and
check out the heat. Hood Politics is a member of
Cool Zone Media. executive produced by Sophie Lichterman, part of
the iHeartMedia podcast network. Your theme music and scoring is
also by the one and only Matt Alsowski, still killing
the beat softly. So listen, don't let nobody lie to you.
(38:05):
If you understand urban living, you understand politics. These people
is not smarter than you. We'll see y'all next week.
Host
Prop
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