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Speaker 1 (00:01):
As media.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah, so it was a hard week for the melanated,
for the sexy. Uh, Brazil and Mexico got knocked out.
Come on, y'all them two of the sexiest humans on
the planet. Man Ghana Senegal. Man.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It was. It was a tough week for the for
the melanated. But at least there's France tap in with me,
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all right, all right, all right.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So when I talked about the World Cup the last time,
I made some statements about Africans being formed into European nations.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I was making a.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Claim mostly about just colonialism and just kind of how
it's hard to not see that on display, and it
was a lot of It was just as a preamble
to get to the the Dr Kungo to talk about that,
and also it's just kind of fun to see, like
I thought maybe one day we would have like the
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colonized revenge. You know, I'm actually watching myself become a
fan of the Norway dude, that guy that's like looks
like he's part of a North saga, but is like
the sweetest dude. He's like super funny, but he put
a hurting on Brazil. Anyway, I say that to say
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a young man named Jacob Praser reached out and wanted
to make some statements that I feel as though need
to be addressed. I do think think there is a
mistake that oftentimes us who exist in the progressive world
would I think a lot of times when it comes
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to blackness, forget that, like, is black people everywhere. I know,
I'm always in a situation because my Spanish is at
the level that it's at that people going we be
in Espano, don't they he And I'm like, la point there,
you know, I'm like Los Angeles and then and I'm like,
you know, you can just learn a language. But I
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think it's because you know, clearly I'm obviously black, you know,
But that a lot of times the bigger thing is
the erasure of the fact that, like, is black people
all up and down Central and South America. Is black
people everywhere? Okay, we migrate also, you know, Colombia being
one of the largest slave ports in Central America, Ecuador,
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or in South America, Ecuador, Brazil, Like everybody expected black.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
People in Brazil.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
But when you start talking about Ecuador and Colombia and
even Mexico, like this being a big thing about the
young man the black man Keonees, who was the amazing
striker that they had that scored on in points.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
He was born in Colombia and he was raised in Mexico.
But forget y'all forgetting about Vera Cruz. Like it was
a part of the a lot of the the you know,
the underground railroad didn't just go north, it also went
south Anyway. I say that to say it was brought
to my attention and that I was cracking wise about
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the French team and Mbape about them all.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Look at Africans.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Uh, this young man reached out to be like, hey, bro,
Like that's kind of a mischaracterization. There was a lot
of black people in France, and a lot of these
people are born and raised. You know, immigration happens always.
I got some friends in London, the UK, my boys
he defined, who were born in Kenya there, but they're Punjabi,
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you know, and they were raised in London. You know
what I'm saying. So like it's just the reality that
like people travel, you know. So I do want to
come back and acknowledge this list. He was like Embape
born and raised in France. Um Paciano born and raised
in France. Saliba born and raised in France. Conde born
and raised in France, dem Bele born and raised in France.
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Oh See born and raised in England. And he just
keeps running down these African players who were You're like,
they're from the country they play in in the same
way that I'm not from an African country that my
ancestors are from. They're just a couple of generations ahead.
Maybe they're two and three in first generation. And it
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is important to acknowledge that the diaspora is larger. So
my bad, Jacob Praiser, I'm your last name, proser Praiser.
I apologize if I'm saying it wrong, but to se Bra,
we should acknowledge. And because sinat acknowledge is and a
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rasure of the diaspora. That being said, colonialism abounds, you know,
and there is a larger narrative that I was trying
to get to.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
But you're right I was. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I did a disservice today history. And on this tap end,
your boy prop is going acknowledge. I've been reading bell Hooks,
so I need to acknowledge.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You feel me.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Just read bell Hooks. You'll you understand what I'm saying
the will to change. That's the one if you're a
male identifying with testosterone shooting and you like females anyway,
women anyway read the book. Yeah, So that being said,
I still think that the stance is I'm still cheering
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for everybody black.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Granted, like I said, I've become a fan of the
Norwegian dude because he's funny. Belgium put belt to ass
to America, which I kind of feel like we kind
of asked for, and they are also they're just a
better team. But at the end of the day, I
wanted to come back and use this tap in to
acknowledge that I was incomplete. I do not want to
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erase or participate in any erasure of the diaspora.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Of our folks. Now.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
While it's hard for me to cheer for an imperialistic empire,
I do want to acknowledge in the same way that
it's hard for me to cheer from America. I love California,
and I love my peoples, and I love my folks,
and I think it's okay to live in that existence
and live in that contradiction.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Mexico lost.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I don't know if you've heard the phrase bet OECC,
which basically means but maybe, but what if? Yes, right,
Mexico understood that they weren't that Mexico's fan base at
least understood that they're not.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
We're not the best team in the league. They're not
the most accomplished. But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I grew up in East La, right north of the
Tijuana border. Like most people you know, east of LA,
I grew up in one day. I've said this a
million times, but I don't want to be clear. But
the thing is, I want to shout out the Mexican
American community out here for making this the funnest possible
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time it could have been, right and modeling to us
how to embrace, to enjoy, and to celebrate even in loss,
because the parties didn't stop even after Mexico loss. I
was at my brother in law's house. As soon as
the game was over, people cried, they wiped their tears
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and then ooh, don't stress. We used to started dancing,
but we just started dancing in and continue to drink.
My nephew got tossed up and down because that's what
we do.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
There's joy even in defeat because we could just be
happy for being together now, while Mexico's second choice, which
is Brazil, they also fell. And Brazil's second choice, which
is Mexico, We're left with the conclusion that I'm trying
to give y'all now, I'm cheering.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
For everybody black.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
So hopefully Morocco does well, Hopefully Egypt does well, Hopefully
Colombia does well. And I'm really as I've been corrected.
I guess I must be happy for France, but I
ain't worried about no.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
MESSI tap being with me. Okay, okay, okay, one more
thing what we're thinking. Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I know at the end, I threw Argentina under the bus.
And there is the history of you know, protecting Nazis
past and current, the eurocentricity where they like systematically try
to breed out the blackness. But you don't want to
judge them based on like it would be like somebody
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judging America based on like the worst parts of us
there are. Argentina does have a history of resistance to
colonial power, to workers' rights. They have a very vibrant,
albeit very small, indigenous and black community out there and.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Have actually been a big part of a history of resistance.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
So I mean I'm teasing about messy and about the
overall whiteness of Argentina, but definitely, like you know, it's more,
it's more nuanced than that. So forgive me to my
Latinos like I will give y'all that. Well, I don't
need to give it to you. You understand what I'm
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trying to say. I'm cheering for everybody black man, but wait, bait,
wait wait wait. Also also I may have spoken too
soon again just when you try to show grace, which
you should continue to show grace because of course this
isn't everybody but Argentina do guy like blackface TV shows.
And when I showed speed, was there cheering for Capuved
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like the fans were doing like Monkey and eight things.
One lady was like, go home, nigger, like just it.
FIFA even had to make a statement for the amount
of racism that man was facing by the Argentina fans. Now, granted,
the people that are able to spend the money to
go to something like this is a very different group
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then the person working in the grocery store. I'm just
saying like this, there's reasons why Latin America don't count them.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Okay, I know Okay, okay, okay, I'm gonna end it.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I'm an end, I'm gonna end it.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Point is some cheering for everybody black,