January 22, 2025 • 49 mins
This is not the series finale, because this conflict is far from over. But at least this particular season is done. Let's look back at the history of the most recent chapter of the Israel-Hamas conflict, survey the wreckage, dig into the deal points of the ceasefire and finally ask, who won this round?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Media.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
What of y'all hood politics with pri got the eyeballs cracking?
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Speaker 3 (00:57):
Okay, I'm definitely using the right audio.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
So, but the point I'm making is I got a
new camera from him because of I bought a camera
on Amazon and it was trash. I tried to set
up to make this be the first episode of the
Upgrading Equality, but.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Camera was trash.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
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shopping on Amazon. I broke my own principle here. There
are some things about the fact that we live in
this poisonous water that is capitalism and as evil as
a corporation as Amazon is, what am I supposed to do?
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Speaker 3 (01:43):
So I was like, I need a camera.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I need one fast, and in typical propaganda fashion when
it comes to consumer products, I didn't do the research.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
My research was the price tag.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And I am.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Now about to return this mud and buy a camera
from Naomi Curtis King so that the quality of these
videos can be I am rambling and I noticed is
going to be a long episode. You Wasn't Outside Series finale,
the Ceasefire Edition. Now in my rambling preamble, there's a
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few things I want to highlight that.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
We're going to cover today.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
First of all, we started this series about Israel and
Palestine calling it You Wasn't Outside, because I mean this
is way back to season one, because it was very
clear by seeing the discussion that was happening in the
news and online and just among our friends, Americans were
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grossly uninformed, like embarrassingly uninformed about first of all, conflict,
colonial the history of the Middle East. Didn't know what
infatada was, no idea what a Israeli settlement is inside
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of the West Bank, like just.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Americans had no idea.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
And the only way for me to explain it was like, man,
y'all was like, Okay, you wasn't outside, Like you don't
like in the same way when you guys talk about
gang violence. Okay, y'all wasn't there, so clearly you don't
know what you're talking about. That's that was our attitude
as to why we why I called this series. You
wasn't outside. And then after fifteen months college students getting radicalized,
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it seemed like people caught all real quick as to
what was going on, and it was like, oh, oh,
I think we understand now.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
We done caught up real quick.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
We may have jumped in America, may have jumped in
at season nine, episode one, but we seem to catch
up as to what was going on pretty quick. It turned,
it seemed to me like we didn't like, okay, what
we figured it out? We was like, oh, some main
right here, and this right here is the season finale.
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And notice how I'm not saying this is the series finale,
because again, if you was outside, you know this is
far from over. We are going to discuss today how
the negotiations went the carnage and let me ask you this,
who you think got the dub.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Who you think won this round?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I have thoughts hook politics, y'all. All right, this is
the whole last third week of twenty twenty five, and
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god dog, so let's start.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
But look, it's like this bull look is like this
bullook is like this.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
All right, it is like this. Apparently as an inauguration
today you gonna watch that. I'm not, but I am
interested in the fact that the snoop Ricky Rose soldier boy,
which I guess I kind of get Nelly all participated
in the festivities around whether it was the crypto, which
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is something else to be said, because if Trump launches
his own crypto currency, then that means foreign governments can
invest in it without saying who they are and identifying themselves.
So you know, that don't seem like a security breach
to me, and I don't know what is. And speaking
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of security breaches, We're gonna talk about TikTok in a second,
but but listen, the way that my West Coast trauma
is set up, far be it from me to have
any smoke for my ogs. We just are not allowed
to talk about our OG's in public. However, Rose is
not my og. He's Atlanta. I just I kind of
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don't understand that move, except for the fact that I
do understand that he's a hustler.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Soldier. Boy, They hustlers. I don't know if we know
what either of them believe.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So like that's that I could wrap my mind around Snoop.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
This one kind of hurt. I kind of don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I don't know what to do with this one, because
I feel like Snoop walks on water out here in
Los Angeles, and I was.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Even with him most of the time. I could see
the play.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
During the Biggie and Tupac thing, Snoop had no problem.
He was like, I ain't got no problem with them,
Like I go do a song with him and call
me on it. I'm a gangster, and that I understand
that part. I understand. Normally, we could see the play.
I understood the sketches play like I understood the WWE play.
The man showed up all wrestle many. I understand the
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T mobile play. Matter of fact, I would love I
would love for some game as to how to could
He talked about once like doing the sketcheres thing, and
that's why he did it. I get to play this
one is is a little more difficult for me. He's
never been afraid to cross enemy lines, like cause the
combine where his where his his recording studio is and
stuff is in Englewood, which is known to be all bloods.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
He a crip, and he like, I go where I
want to go.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Maybe I've explained, Maybe I explained to play myself to myself. Snoop,
just do what you want. Hen't be worried about what
y'all think. I think, I oh, I just figured it out.
Never mind, I normally I respect it. You know what
I'm saying. This one was just little I don't know, man,
cause you you kind of I think what made this
one that's so difficult because he was so strong about
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stop being a tap dancing jigaboo for this man, you
know what I'm saying, Like, that's the part I didn't understand.
He was like Trump's fucking racist and anybody whoever runs
with him as a motherfucking racist too like this.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I mean, that's those are your words, my nigga. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
That's the part I don't understand. Let me see another
news and others like this. Drake responded with to UMG
with a lawsuit. Umng was like, my nigga, sir, what
sense does it make for us to sabotage our own artists?
What sense does that make? Then they had to explain
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hip hop to him, this is a battle. This is
what battles are. You have said horrible things about other
people and it was crickets then. And as a matter
of fact, big dog, why you sue it us?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
We didn't say it.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Kendrick said it, sue it us cuz proving again he
is not like us. And finally in it's like this,
Trump ran the textbook hoods to play, which is called
out of here, make somebody else do the hit, and
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then stop the person from doing the hit so that
you could be the hero.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I like, is that not what happened with TikTok? Dude?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Was it not obvious to y'all? It was obvious to me,
that's what this man was doing. Because as everybody know
what Trump, you just got to be the last person
to talk to him because if you're the last person talk,
you can convisime of what you're saying. Just make sure
nobody come in after. So as long as you've been
to knee, you good. Trump in there saving us. But
he's like TikTok's great, like America likes great. You know
(09:53):
a lot of people on TikTok like me. This fool
just being captive saved oh yours? There was there.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Hilarious, absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
La on fire still well, actually it's it's finally calming down.
What's heating up is the rent prices. There's somebody that
go to my daughter's jiu jitsu because my daughter's in
jiu jitsu.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Whose rent is they got this?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
They got displaced and they rent is ten thousand dollars
a month and the owner is like, I'm charging to
this because I can't. So I think we found the looters.
Everybody was worried about back to it. You wasn't outside,
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all right, Ceasefire edition Today's gonna be a little heavy,
and why is because let me rewind the clock for
y'all a little bit this season, which you know, we
lovingly called season nine.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I'd made up the number nine, so I don't know
why I just called it that.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Episode one was the October seventh attack from Hamas on Israel.
But like we've done in multiple episodes, we went back
and explained Zionism, you know, on the Zion and the
other Zion, the actual you know, pilgrimage back to Israel
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from European Jews that were escaping the Pagras, you know,
post World War Two, and just an understanding as to
like why they're so terrified and feeling froggy all the time.
If you went through that collective trauma, you'd feel froggy too.
You'd think everybody, everybody talking to you got a problem.
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You would be scared anytime anybody talk about their own
protection and their own rights. We also talked about the
history of even why this place is called Palestine, because
this particular region was named that by the Romans, and
it was toatrol the Israelites, because Palestine is a Roman
word for the Philistines. Philistines, if you know your Bible
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was the that's Goliath, like David and Goliath. Goliath was
a Philistine, so it was a troll the name of
which doesn't matter. These people have lived here. There were
some people that never left the region continued to be
the region while the displaced Jews were in Europe living
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for a century, multiple centuries. Life never stopped here a
lot of times, I think a lot of times when
you you know, when you move away and you come back,
you expect people to be right where you left them.
Life goes on right, and life went on in the
region of Judea and continued to be you know, occupied
and fought for freedom, whether it was the Turks or
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the Malukes. Like, there's so much happened in this particular region,
and there was a lot of like you know, cross germanation.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I'm reading a.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Book about Africa. Let me bring up the name of
this book because I highly recommend it. It's called An
African History of Africa. So it's Africans talking about African history.
It's an incredible book. And part of that talks about
the migration because remember like Judea, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, the
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Red Sea, North Africa. It's there, they're they're connected by land, like.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
You can walk to it.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
You could walk to Egypt from Gaza like, so it's
like this region has been tied into our history as
a descendant of Africans the whole time. So that being said,
one thing that's always that is, you know, not covered
often is the Arab slave trade. Like Arab countries participated
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in slavery. Also it wasn't always transatlantic, sometimes it was
trans Indian Ocean. So that being said, there's a long
history of North African Arab Judeans in this area of
sort of conflict. And anyway, there's a long history here.
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We went through it already. And then finally when the
British left in nineteen forty five, was finally when Israel
did the grab to call themselves a country. Now, remember
a modern nation state, a post World War two League
of Nations type nation state, a geopolitical line is not
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the same as an ethnic person, right, and everybody who
lived within those geopolitical lines don't necessarily hold to the
positions that the made up geopolitical government holds.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Let's remember that, right.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
But Palestinians one day woke up in Israel, like we
never left. We did not cross the border. The border
crossed us. And what I know when I went for
the first time to the region. I went with Full Disclosure,
an incredibly.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Zionist organization.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Now granted I didn't know, and also I went with
a group of homeboys and their wives and homegirls, and
our attitude was, all right, well, they're paying for it,
will chew the meat, spit out the bones. That's an
old church phrase where it's like, you know, you take
what you need and then you spit out the.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Parts you don't.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
My attitude was, I want to see or hear if
this is what I think it is, because if it's
what I think it is, it's kind of sort of
maybe absolutely. In apartheid, you are a colonial power leveraging
your faith to justify things that your Holy text caused
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a sin. As a geopolitical nation state, you basically your
pusher is the amount is the United States. United States
got you hooked on drugs, and you stay with them
because they got the big gun. Now granted you became
that honestly because of all the stuff that y'all went through.
But if it's what I think it is, then I
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don't know if you got a leg to stand on,
you kind of doing this to your own people, what's
my attitude, but I wanted but like I went, I
swear to y'all. I went in there with an open mind.
Proved me wrong because I thought maybe it was just gangshit.
Like if it's just like gangshit, then it's just like, Okay,
this is a blood feud.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
There's nobody right.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Like in my mind, I'm like, if it's just some
crips and bloodshit, then it's like, well, nobody's right. This
is just this is just what it is. Just show
me and I gotta tell you man.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, it was. This was an apart tap. It was
kind of it was like I heard y'all.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I listened to everything, y'all, Like I honestly gave y'all
this is me being real with y'all.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I honestly was like, because.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I grew up in church, I'm in church like everybody else,
you know what I'm saying, like every other black people
we grew up in church.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I didn't I had. I thought Israel was Israel, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Then you get there and you like, y'all, y'all are Russian,
y'all Polish like, and then it was really obvious to
look and see, Okay, well, I knew Judaism went to
Africa before I went to Europe, so I was like, Okay,
there are Ethiopian Jews. Axum's the first Christian city, like
what I'm saying. So I'm like, we got a lot
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of history in there. And it was very, very easy
to notice. Everybody got a little melonine is working in
the service industry. There's even programs that was sterilizing African
Jews to make sure that they don't have to like this,
Like I'm like this, I wish I was making this up.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I wish this was like fake news.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I'm like, no, like it's obviously I didn't see the
sterization with my own eyes, but I saw even within Jerusalem,
I saw a clear colorism, a clear stratification. It's just
hard for somebody to look at a room full of
people of color, who already know what it's like to
be second class citizens, for you to try to convince
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me that your world is separate but equal. We already
know from our own experience that that don't work. So
it was super obvious to me as as once I
saw it. And then when we finally went to Bethlehem,
we went to the West Bank, we went to the city.
We couldn't go into Gaza because clearly I can't go
into Gaza at the time, this is twenty eighteen nineteen.
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But we were on the city right next to Gaza,
right the town, right right by the border, and they
were showing us like blown out like shells from like
bombs and stuff like that. That's freaking scary, man, Like
to see bus stops that had to be strong concrete
because they had to be able to withstand bombs Like
That's when you get to the human level. It's like
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it's dark and it's hard to not feel that the
people on the ground are caught into some stuff that
none of them ask for. The border is made up,
this line is imagining. It's just a desert. It's a
desert that somebody threw a wall on, Like it don't
have to be it, don't have to be this way,
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you feel me, it's hard to not see that is
what I'm trying to say. And then clearly who the
the aggressor is and clearly who is defending themselves. And
to know how people get radicalized you just watching it
with your own eyes, like this is how you make
a hamas anyway, that's the background all leading up to
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October seventh with the attack from Hamas. Now during that attack,
which again was the start of season nine, which we're
seeing the season finale of today Israel I'm reading from Reuters.
I'll say this the latest round. See they even said
the thing of the Israel Palestinian conflict began October seventh,
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twenty twenty three, when Hamas militants stormed across the border
into Israel communities Israel militants, Israeli says militants killed more
than twelve hundred people, mostly civilians, and took two hundred
people two hundred and fifty people into captivity in Gaza.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
So that's how this new shit started.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
And like we said in one of the first He
Wasn't Outsides episodes, we gave the example of one of
my closest friends and in a family scenario with his
cousin where his cousin got out the pin and was
staying with him and staying with my friend. And while
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this was happening, my friend's mother was going through this
situation with someone who was doing a utility service for her,
who was not treating her fairly. So this cousin who
just got out the pin here's about is auntie who
was kind enough to take him in. Who's one of
us who felt that she was being taken advantage of?
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And she was she was being treated very unfairly. And
she looked too, because my friend was only a teenager
at the time.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
She looked to her.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Nephew, a nephew for which no one else in the
family wanted to take in. After he got out of prison,
So remember that. So he felt an obligation to take
care of this far and take care of it he did.
He took that utility worker hours away and did atrocious
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things to that man, and then came back and returned
the products for which his auntie was missing. And his
auntie was like, nephew, I ain't what did you do
to that? I did not ask you. I ain't asked
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you to go that hard. I just wanted but stuff
back got dog. And then, to take the scenario further,
if that said worker who got abused in ways for
which that I can't explain, decided to bomb the entire
city of Los Angeles and wipe out the entire death
toll of the entire city because he did not like
me and treated to wag tree, this is what's happening
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right now. Like okay, so it went psycho. Now what
this brought up? Where old stuff right now? You ever
been in therapy, if you ain't been in therapy, or
if you haven't been in a relationship, you know, there
are things called triggers where a lot of times what
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we talk about right now ain't really about right now.
It's stuff that we just have not dealt with for
a long time. This scenario brought that up. And this
is what I feel got the college kids out here
finally radicalized. They finally realized that it's like, oh, this
is moden just this moment, because if it was just
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this moment, then it would be completely understandable to where
it's like, oh, you gotta go okay, you gotta go
to war like this, you know, y'all got attacked.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And then somebody say wait wait wait wait wait wait
wait no no no no no no no.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
They didn't get attacked out of nowhere. This has been
going on for a hundred years. This is just the
next and people was like, wow, one hundred years, do
tell what's been going on. Then you learn about the emphatize,
you learn about how Israel b you learn about their displacement,
the birth of Hamas and what Hamas was at one time,
you start learning all this stuff, and then you start
realizing even when they got there. One of the things
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that this brought up was the normalization. Now you remember
when I talk to you about normalization, which is essentially
what they're saying is the rest of the Arab nations.
I don't know if we gonna recognize y'all as a nation.
Remember y'all left and what you did to the people
of Palestine is unacceptable. I'm not accepting you as one
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of us because of your treatment to the very people
for which you know you displacing. I'm not gonna recognize
you like anybody got a step parent. If you get
a step parent when you were a little older and
you're like, you're not my real dad, You're not my
real mom. I am never going to call you mom.
I am never going to normalize my.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Relationship with you.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Why because you don't matter now this because I am,
in fact a stepfather. Now, granted, I've been around since
I was three, and I did everything I could to
make sure that I was the type of man that
this young lady needed. My relationship has been normalized, but
sometimes that don't happen. And they was like, until you
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do right by the Palestinians, we are not going to
acknowledge you.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
And the people who've been leading that was Iran.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Now it's not like Iran is some superhero in this story.
Like we said, Iran ain't no superhero. But Iran is
basically saying, none of us. Fuck with y'all. We don't
why are you here? We are the resistance. So they
started being coming behind groups like Hezbelah. Remember that because
Iran in Lebanon been having the smoke with any of
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the Western nations because all Israel, all Israel is to
them is just you're just an American outpost. We know
what America does. You just like them, and you pretended
to be one of us. We're supposed to feel bad
for you. We don't understand how if you went through
what you went through, why would you treat us this way?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
So Ron started backing people like Azballah.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
They started back in the Houthis feel like they going
through the same thing a Yemen. They started back in
Jumas and providing the bread, providing the guns because they
was like y'all not even supposed to be here anyway.
Now this does again, please hear what I'm saying. Iran
ain't the heroes in the story. They are not the
freedom fighters in this mug. They got their own agenda.
But they thing was again, you, what you're doing, how
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you got here is all fraudulent, It is all wrong.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
It does not have to be this way.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Now from us on the outside, who are not in
the region, it was obvious to us who had a
little bit of sense, you.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Need two states. Israel doesn't have the right to exist.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
What you don't have the right to do is to
exist on top of people that already exist.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Is the point we're trying to make.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
And of course there are extremists on the israel side,
you know, the Jewish clerics that believe that the Messiah
coming until we hold this whole land river to the sea.
There are Arabs on the Palestinian side that are like, no,
you're right, you don't get to exist as a nation.
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Are you listening to me? Not as a people?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
But where.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Is the human right that says you get to have
a country? Like why do you get to have a
what is this? Of course you can exist but I
don't mean you get to have a country. So for
the Zionists of the world, they're like, no, those are
the same things. Existing means we need a country because
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everywhere we go we're kicked out of to which the.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Arabs are like, nigga and water is wet. You think
we ain't gone through this? You feel me? That's their
attitude about it. Now.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
The issues that this brought up was to stay solution,
what exactly isn'n apartheid? Should we do normalization? And is
Benjamin Nett and Yahoo a war criminal? We talked about
what is a genocide right and how South Africa was like, oh,
I know what a genocide is and this is one
your war criminal. But then we talked about how the
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UN and the International Justice Commission has a literal definition
of what a genocide is. Now, is this a crime
against humanity? It passes every test for that? Is it
a genocide? With our eyes were like nigga, duh? And
not only that, it's because of what Benjamin Nett and
Yahoo said, We're trying to wipe We're trying to wipe
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y'all out. Now on one side of his mouth, he's saying,
unless you agree with us.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
We're trying to wipe out Hamas.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
But they did the whole sprinklesome crack on him that
we experience with the war on drugs, which is like
we kill them because they they Hamas?
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Are they friends with Hamas?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Now is people inside of net and Yahoo's cabinet who
are this is all.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Reviewed just in case we haven't got there yet.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Uh's people inside of net Yahu's cabinet that's like, no,
we need to wipe them out to where he's even like, bro,
can you chill? Cus Like we can't. I'm saying to
kill them all, all of them, And they like, if
you sign this peace treaty, now it's not even a
peace treaty. You signed this ceasefire. We're leaving and keep
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in mind. Simmering on this other pot is Net and
Yahoo faces criminal charges that as soon as this nigga
get out of office, he gona have to face drive.
We did an episode of that too. But is he
committing crimes against humanity? Are these war crimes? The starvation
that's happening, the carnage, the death toll, the untarred targeted
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bombings that he says are targeted bombings just this over exortinent.
You are doing way too much styles of warfare that
he's doing, and the way for which you're doing it
is very reminiscent to what happened to y'all as a people,
So it brought up all these things.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
You've been doing this for years.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
You want us to normalize with you, but this is
why we won't normalize with you. You're starving out your
own people. And if your said goal was to root
out terrorist groups like Hamas, you did the opposite. You
are doing what every expert says is creating extremists by
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having the state come down with the carnage that it's
coming down with. And speaking of carnage, let's go through
the numbers now, I mean next.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
To the break.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
All right back.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
So you guys want to do it just by the numbers,
So let's do it by the numbers. You guys ready
for something really fun and so cool and so exciting.
The official Palestinian Health Ministry count of more than forty
six thousand, six hundred Palestinians dead amounts of more than
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ten times the amount of the count of losses in
all previous Gaza conflicts since two thousand and eight. From
early twenty twenty four, the ministry updated its breakdown of
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its facity of its fatalities to include unidentified bodies, which
account for nearly a third.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Of the overall toll. But let's go back.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
This is, according to Associated Press, the number of people
killed in Israel around twelve hundred. The number of hostages
taken into Gaza two hundred and fifty one. The number
of hostages believed to be alive sixty two, including the
two from October twenty two thousand October seventh, twenty twenty three.
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The number of captives believed to be dead is thirty six,
including two from the October seventh.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Ready for this.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Number of Palestinians wounded in Gaza one hundred and nine
thousand people. Number of militants that Israeli military says it's
killed is over seventeen thousand. Now they haven't proven that,
but that's what they said. Number of Israeli soldiers eight
hundred and forty. Number of rockets fired from Gaza fire
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at Israel from Gaza is ten thousand.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Displacement.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
The number of Palestinians displaced in Gaza is one point
nine million. One point nine million people. That is ninety
percent of Gaza's population. Can you imagine ninety percent of
America losing their homes. Of Israelis displaced by attacks from
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Gaza at their peak is seventy five thousand, five hundred.
Number of Israelis currently displaced are around seven thousand. But
the percentage of the territory placed under Israeli evacuation, it's
about ninety percent now. The destruction of Gaza, over one
hundred and thirty six thousand structures have been broken. The
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number of housing units damaged or destroyed is over two
hundred and forty five thousand homes. Sixty nine percent of
Gaza is destroyed. US looking at videos of Eden, the
Eden fired, of Altadna, of the Palisades, you know the flyovers.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
It feels so eerie.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I have friends that are first responders that are working
in that thing. Now, just the Palisades, you mentioned half
of California. I just the total costs and damage from
this war in the first three months is eighteen point
five billion. Ninety two percent of their roads are destroyed,
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eighty four percent of health care facilities, sixty seven percent
of water and sanitation facilities. Daily amount of untreated water
and sewage flowing to the sea from Gaza is sixty
thousand cubic meters. That's two point one million cubic feuw.
The length of electrical grid destroyed five hundred and ten
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kilometers three hundred and twenty miles. It's Gaza's gone. Like
that's the best way to say it. Gaza is gone.
One of the things that is so infuriorating is every
time there was a chance for a ceasefire net and
Yahoo shot it down and would blame Hamas for it.
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It's frustrating because you know that's not the case.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Now.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Hamas was saying things very simple, which is like you
have hundreds of people who are in jail for life
for being suspected of being part of Hamas, will return
your hostages if you fucking leave. Y'all been to the
West Bank, Like of course you haven't been to the
(36:26):
West Bank. That like you get like I'm just saying,
we just want to exist and to know that most
likely the ceasefire game that has been played is truly
so that or quite possibly so that Donald Trump can
get this w.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
And this is not to.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Give Joe Biden any credit, but when you look at
the ceasfire deal that's there. It's the same deal that
was dead the whole time now, believe it or not,
because of some programs I'm a part of. I have
a print out parts of the negotiation deal that apparently
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if it's been sent to me then it's not top secret.
But here are the points of the deal that I
got sent to by negotiators of it. And that's a
huge shout out to Qatar, Egypt and all the different
people that worked really hard, because at the end of
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the day, dude, like as much as I'm clearly expressing,
this negotiating piece is really really, really hard, especially because
we're talking about something that has existed for hundreds of years.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Now.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
This is not a peace treaty again, this is a ceasefire.
It is temporary, and that difference matters, which is why
I said this is a season finale and not a
series finale. And my man Schamil shaml my Bad shamo
Idris CEO Search for Common Ground, we had him on
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the first last year around this time to talk about
this very thing. The way that he explains it is
like a ceasefire is like a big gulp of oxygen.
Nothing can happen, like he says, like, nothing can happen
if you can't breathe, Like there's no we can't talk
about any justice, any We can't talk about anything else
until we can breathe, Like if you're drowning, and right
(38:37):
now we're drowning in blood. He's like, if we can
just at least get a gulp of air. So see
the ceasefire as a gulp of air. It's just it's
our first, and then we can deal with everything else
after we can breathe. That is not to remove the
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celebration that Minnie Palestinians are feeling right now and the
bliss that the families of return hostages are feeling right now.
But understand that this is this is more like your
first gulp of fresh air.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
And I want to give a shout out. I don't
want to.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Like.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
What I'm saying is I'm not going to shit on
their work.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
A lot of times us like activists, will shit on
the work that the really hard work that somebody got
to do to even get it to this point. You know,
I say this also being fully aware of what it's
like to negotiate piece, or at least a ceasefire, a
truce between rival neighborhoods, let alone rival nations. I'm going
to read a few things from this appendix about which
(39:39):
are like the deal points. So you're supposed to start
the nineteenth and in the most shady way possible is
re'll just throw in a bunch of extra licks, dropped
a bunch of extra bombs.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Hundred more people died because.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
It was like, well, we weren'tupposed to stop till nineteenth,
Like the bel didn't ring yet, so we keep bombing.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Just it's it's hard to cheer for, y'all.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Now, okay, So the Stage two preparations the parties in
the Mediator's objective is to achieve a final consensus to
implement the May twenty seventh, which is my birthday, twenty
twenty four, agreement of exchange of hostages and prisoners and
the return of sustainable claim, which would achieve a permanent
(40:25):
cease fire. Now keep in mind again, this is what
I'm trying to tell you. It's been on the table
since May twenty seventh to twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
So don't y'all dare give Trump the credit for this?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
All right, All procedures of the first stage will continue
in Stage two, so as long as the negotiations and
the conditions of implementing Stage two are ongoing, and the
guarantee your cores of this agreement shall work to ensure
the negotiations will continue until the agreement is reached. So
(40:55):
here are the stages. The withdrawal of Israeli forces right
eastwards from densely populated areas along the Gaza Strip, including
Wadi Gaza right, and the Israeli forces will be deployed
in a perimeter seven hundred meters with an exception of
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five localized points to be increased to no more than
four hundred meters maps agreed on by both sides.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Right prisoner exchange.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
The nine ill and wounded of the list of thirty
three will be released in exchange for the one hundred
and ten Palestinian prisoners with life sentences, is will release
one thousand Gaza detainees elderly men.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Kay, I can't read that. Not allowed to say that, right,
and then.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Let me move on because some of this I'm not
allowed to say.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
The Philadelphi Corridor.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
The israel Day side will gradually reduce its forces in
the corridor area during stage one, based on the accompanying
maps and agreement on both flies. And then after the
last hostage is released from stage one on day forty two,
the Israeli forces will begin to withdraw and complete with
grin their withdrawal and complete it no later than day
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fifty on the Rafa Boarding crossing will be ready to
transfer civilians and the wounded. After the release of all women,
civilian and soldiers. Israel will work towards the readiness of
this crossing as soon as the agreement is signed. There's
an exit of all wounded civilians right and a return
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of unarmed and internally displaced. So these are the terms
that I know of. And then the last one is
the humanitarian aid protocol. Humanitarian aid procedures under this agreement
will be done subject to the humanitarian protocol agreed upon
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under the.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Two supervised mediators.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Give our people back, let's exchange our people, let's put
our guns down.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Now, Clearly, this does not solve the two state solution issue.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
This does not fix the settlements in the West Bank.
This will not change anyone's mind concerning their prejudice.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
But here's the thought.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
On the Hama side, nig you're out of guns, bro,
because Hesbella got the ass whooked. The Houthis jumped in
and they really didn't help. Iran's busy right now because
the asside regimee just fell. You ain't got no backup
(43:54):
because you are really really in sent advised to end
this shit. On the Israeli side, all sympathies has left.
No one has sympathy for you anymore. And you got
(44:16):
a president coming in from America who is remember your pusher,
who's like, if you don't end this shit, I'm blowing
this mug up.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Now. We don't know what that means. We just know that.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Trump is so messy that it could mean a million things.
Israel's incentivized to keep Trump on his side. On their
side also because like I said that in Yahoo facing
charges just like Trump is, so he's absolutely incentivized to like.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Make sure the shit get done.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
And as of today, some people have returned home, which
is something to try celebrate. People were able to come
back and see the holes blew out of their houses,
but at least the bomb stopped. Now, the last question
I would ask y'all is who won this? We we
think one is that even the right term Palestine can
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say if their hope was to remind the rest of
the world of what they were going through. That's what
they said, Or ask what Hama said. It's like we're
trying to remind like y'all forgot about us. This is
the only way to get everybody to pay attention to
like the apartheid we existed under.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Their entire city is destroyed.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Like I said, of this of Goads's displaced, it's sewage,
it's famine. This is gonna go on for decades, even
if even after the bomb stops. Children are dead, the
infrastructures destroyed. Hermasa is definitely not gone. But they got
the world's attention. But they didn't wipe They did and
(46:00):
get wiped out.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Is that a win? It survived another round? Israel? Did
you win?
Speaker 2 (46:09):
You wiped out ninety percent of Gaza. We didn't end
jim As. Did you get your hostages back? I mean
you could have got your hostages back on May in May,
so that's not just what you wanted. Did you prove
your point? You win your your big tough guy?
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Did you win?
Speaker 2 (46:30):
These are the questions when you grew up in the hood,
like you know, and I say that loosely, like My
upbringing wasn't that bad. Like it could have been much worse.
It was split, you know, like I got to go
to high school in the Inland Empire and it was nice.
Now I didn't go all the way out to like
the you know, Sam Fardino, I'd be different when went
all the way out there no more, you know what
(46:50):
I'm saying. But like my high school, it wasn't that bad.
My neighborhood I'm from was wild, but definitely I hadn't
experience what a lot of my friends experienced a lot
of my family experience. But that being said, you get
a little space from it. You was like, bust this mission,
you know, you throw this fade, you know, you crash
(47:11):
out here and there, Like.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
What's this? Did we win'?
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (47:18):
What did we accomplish? I don't know, man, nobody wins
in the family feud. We'll see what next season holds
the politics. All right, now, don't you hit stop on
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Media.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
What of y'all hood politics with pri got the eyeballs cracking?
What does that even mean? Basically that we're recording this now.
I just purchased or I'm about to purchase a new
camera from the hommy Curtis King. You could check out
his YouTube channel if you care about his this thing
called di I Wires, which is like do it yourself,
(00:26):
really big on independent, doing it yourself hip hop. One
of the dopest, smartest men I've ever met. And he
he teamed light skin. You know, he wanted the good ones.
That is the most awful thing to say about another
black man. I'm kidding, Langston, don't be mad at me.
You two Miles, you know, and y'all know Miles his
(00:48):
uh you know they lost their home too. So please
find that goal fund me and support the homie. But
the point I'm making is, wait, let me make sure
I'm using the right audio.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Okay, I'm definitely using the right audio.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
So, but the point I'm making is I got a
new camera from him because of I bought a camera
on Amazon and it was trash. I tried to set
up to make this be the first episode of the
Upgrading Equality, but.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Camera was trash.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
So it's boxed up and that's what I get for
shopping on Amazon. I broke my own principle here. There
are some things about the fact that we live in
this poisonous water that is capitalism and as evil as
a corporation as Amazon is, what am I supposed to do?
Am I gonna you gonna shop at Target? While they
(01:41):
get like, what's the difference? You feel me?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
So I was like, I need a camera.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I need one fast, and in typical propaganda fashion when
it comes to consumer products, I didn't do the research.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
My research was the price tag.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And I am.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Now about to return this mud and buy a camera
from Naomi Curtis King so that the quality of these
videos can be I am rambling and I noticed is
going to be a long episode. You Wasn't Outside Series finale,
the Ceasefire Edition. Now in my rambling preamble, there's a
(02:19):
few things I want to highlight that.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
We're going to cover today.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
First of all, we started this series about Israel and
Palestine calling it You Wasn't Outside, because I mean this
is way back to season one, because it was very
clear by seeing the discussion that was happening in the
news and online and just among our friends, Americans were
(02:45):
grossly uninformed, like embarrassingly uninformed about first of all, conflict,
colonial the history of the Middle East. Didn't know what
infatada was, no idea what a Israeli settlement is inside
(03:11):
of the West Bank, like just.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Americans had no idea.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
And the only way for me to explain it was like, man,
y'all was like, Okay, you wasn't outside, Like you don't
like in the same way when you guys talk about
gang violence. Okay, y'all wasn't there, so clearly you don't
know what you're talking about. That's that was our attitude
as to why we why I called this series. You
wasn't outside. And then after fifteen months college students getting radicalized,
(03:44):
it seemed like people caught all real quick as to
what was going on, and it was like, oh, oh,
I think we understand now.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
We done caught up real quick.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
We may have jumped in America, may have jumped in
at season nine, episode one, but we seem to catch
up as to what was going on pretty quick. It turned,
it seemed to me like we didn't like, okay, what
we figured it out? We was like, oh, some main
right here, and this right here is the season finale.
(04:15):
And notice how I'm not saying this is the series finale,
because again, if you was outside, you know this is
far from over. We are going to discuss today how
the negotiations went the carnage and let me ask you this,
who you think got the dub.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Who you think won this round?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I have thoughts hook politics, y'all. All right, this is
the whole last third week of twenty twenty five, and
(05:00):
god dog, so let's start.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
But look, it's like this bull look is like this
bullook is like this.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
All right, it is like this. Apparently as an inauguration
today you gonna watch that. I'm not, but I am
interested in the fact that the snoop Ricky Rose soldier boy,
which I guess I kind of get Nelly all participated
in the festivities around whether it was the crypto, which
(05:36):
is something else to be said, because if Trump launches
his own crypto currency, then that means foreign governments can
invest in it without saying who they are and identifying themselves.
So you know, that don't seem like a security breach
to me, and I don't know what is. And speaking
(05:57):
of security breaches, We're gonna talk about TikTok in a second,
but but listen, the way that my West Coast trauma
is set up, far be it from me to have
any smoke for my ogs. We just are not allowed
to talk about our OG's in public. However, Rose is
not my og. He's Atlanta. I just I kind of
(06:17):
don't understand that move, except for the fact that I
do understand that he's a hustler.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Soldier. Boy, They hustlers. I don't know if we know
what either of them believe.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So like that's that I could wrap my mind around Snoop.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
This one kind of hurt. I kind of don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I don't know what to do with this one, because
I feel like Snoop walks on water out here in
Los Angeles, and I was.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Even with him most of the time. I could see
the play.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
During the Biggie and Tupac thing, Snoop had no problem.
He was like, I ain't got no problem with them,
Like I go do a song with him and call
me on it. I'm a gangster, and that I understand
that part. I understand. Normally, we could see the play.
I understood the sketches play like I understood the WWE play.
The man showed up all wrestle many. I understand the
(07:13):
T mobile play. Matter of fact, I would love I
would love for some game as to how to could
He talked about once like doing the sketcheres thing, and
that's why he did it. I get to play this
one is is a little more difficult for me. He's
never been afraid to cross enemy lines, like cause the
combine where his where his his recording studio is and
stuff is in Englewood, which is known to be all bloods.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
He a crip, and he like, I go where I
want to go.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Maybe I've explained, Maybe I explained to play myself to myself. Snoop,
just do what you want. Hen't be worried about what
y'all think. I think, I oh, I just figured it out.
Never mind, I normally I respect it. You know what
I'm saying. This one was just little I don't know, man,
cause you you kind of I think what made this
one that's so difficult because he was so strong about
(08:04):
stop being a tap dancing jigaboo for this man, you
know what I'm saying, Like, that's the part I didn't understand.
He was like Trump's fucking racist and anybody whoever runs
with him as a motherfucking racist too like this.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I mean, that's those are your words, my nigga. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
That's the part I don't understand. Let me see another
news and others like this. Drake responded with to UMG
with a lawsuit. Umng was like, my nigga, sir, what
sense does it make for us to sabotage our own artists?
What sense does that make? Then they had to explain
(08:38):
hip hop to him, this is a battle. This is
what battles are. You have said horrible things about other
people and it was crickets then. And as a matter
of fact, big dog, why you sue it us?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
We didn't say it.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Kendrick said it, sue it us cuz proving again he
is not like us. And finally in it's like this,
Trump ran the textbook hoods to play, which is called
out of here, make somebody else do the hit, and
(09:23):
then stop the person from doing the hit so that
you could be the hero.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I like, is that not what happened with TikTok? Dude?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Was it not obvious to y'all? It was obvious to me,
that's what this man was doing. Because as everybody know
what Trump, you just got to be the last person
to talk to him because if you're the last person talk,
you can convisime of what you're saying. Just make sure
nobody come in after. So as long as you've been
to knee, you good. Trump in there saving us. But
he's like TikTok's great, like America likes great. You know
(09:53):
a lot of people on TikTok like me. This fool
just being captive saved oh yours? There was there.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Hilarious, absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
La on fire still well, actually it's it's finally calming down.
What's heating up is the rent prices. There's somebody that
go to my daughter's jiu jitsu because my daughter's in
jiu jitsu.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Whose rent is they got this?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
They got displaced and they rent is ten thousand dollars
a month and the owner is like, I'm charging to
this because I can't. So I think we found the looters.
Everybody was worried about back to it. You wasn't outside,
(11:02):
all right, Ceasefire edition Today's gonna be a little heavy,
and why is because let me rewind the clock for
y'all a little bit this season, which you know, we
lovingly called season nine.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I'd made up the number nine, so I don't know
why I just called it that.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Episode one was the October seventh attack from Hamas on Israel.
But like we've done in multiple episodes, we went back
and explained Zionism, you know, on the Zion and the
other Zion, the actual you know, pilgrimage back to Israel
(11:46):
from European Jews that were escaping the Pagras, you know,
post World War Two, and just an understanding as to
like why they're so terrified and feeling froggy all the time.
If you went through that collective trauma, you'd feel froggy too.
You'd think everybody, everybody talking to you got a problem.
(12:07):
You would be scared anytime anybody talk about their own
protection and their own rights. We also talked about the
history of even why this place is called Palestine, because
this particular region was named that by the Romans, and
it was toatrol the Israelites, because Palestine is a Roman
word for the Philistines. Philistines, if you know your Bible
(12:28):
was the that's Goliath, like David and Goliath. Goliath was
a Philistine, so it was a troll the name of
which doesn't matter. These people have lived here. There were
some people that never left the region continued to be
the region while the displaced Jews were in Europe living
(12:48):
for a century, multiple centuries. Life never stopped here a
lot of times, I think a lot of times when
you you know, when you move away and you come back,
you expect people to be right where you left them.
Life goes on right, and life went on in the
region of Judea and continued to be you know, occupied
and fought for freedom, whether it was the Turks or
(13:11):
the Malukes. Like, there's so much happened in this particular region,
and there was a lot of like you know, cross germanation.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I'm reading a.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Book about Africa. Let me bring up the name of
this book because I highly recommend it. It's called An
African History of Africa. So it's Africans talking about African history.
It's an incredible book. And part of that talks about
the migration because remember like Judea, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, the
(13:45):
Red Sea, North Africa. It's there, they're they're connected by land, like.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
You can walk to it.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
You could walk to Egypt from Gaza like, so it's
like this region has been tied into our history as
a descendant of Africans the whole time. So that being said,
one thing that's always that is, you know, not covered
often is the Arab slave trade. Like Arab countries participated
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in slavery. Also it wasn't always transatlantic, sometimes it was
trans Indian Ocean. So that being said, there's a long
history of North African Arab Judeans in this area of
sort of conflict. And anyway, there's a long history here.
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We went through it already. And then finally when the
British left in nineteen forty five, was finally when Israel
did the grab to call themselves a country. Now, remember
a modern nation state, a post World War two League
of Nations type nation state, a geopolitical line is not
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the same as an ethnic person, right, and everybody who
lived within those geopolitical lines don't necessarily hold to the
positions that the made up geopolitical government holds.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Let's remember that, right.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
But Palestinians one day woke up in Israel, like we
never left. We did not cross the border. The border
crossed us. And what I know when I went for
the first time to the region. I went with Full Disclosure,
an incredibly.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Zionist organization.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Now granted I didn't know, and also I went with
a group of homeboys and their wives and homegirls, and
our attitude was, all right, well, they're paying for it,
will chew the meat, spit out the bones. That's an
old church phrase where it's like, you know, you take
what you need and then you spit out the.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Parts you don't.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
My attitude was, I want to see or hear if
this is what I think it is, because if it's
what I think it is, it's kind of sort of
maybe absolutely. In apartheid, you are a colonial power leveraging
your faith to justify things that your Holy text caused
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a sin. As a geopolitical nation state, you basically your
pusher is the amount is the United States. United States
got you hooked on drugs, and you stay with them
because they got the big gun. Now granted you became
that honestly because of all the stuff that y'all went through.
But if it's what I think it is, then I
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don't know if you got a leg to stand on,
you kind of doing this to your own people, what's
my attitude, but I wanted but like I went, I
swear to y'all. I went in there with an open mind.
Proved me wrong because I thought maybe it was just gangshit.
Like if it's just like gangshit, then it's just like, Okay,
this is a blood feud.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
There's nobody right.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Like in my mind, I'm like, if it's just some
crips and bloodshit, then it's like, well, nobody's right. This
is just this is just what it is. Just show
me and I gotta tell you man.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, it was. This was an apart tap. It was
kind of it was like I heard y'all.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I listened to everything, y'all, Like I honestly gave y'all
this is me being real with y'all.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I honestly was like, because.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I grew up in church, I'm in church like everybody else,
you know what I'm saying, like every other black people
we grew up in church.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I didn't I had. I thought Israel was Israel, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Then you get there and you like, y'all, y'all are Russian,
y'all Polish like, and then it was really obvious to
look and see, Okay, well, I knew Judaism went to
Africa before I went to Europe, so I was like, Okay,
there are Ethiopian Jews. Axum's the first Christian city, like
what I'm saying. So I'm like, we got a lot
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of history in there. And it was very, very easy
to notice. Everybody got a little melonine is working in
the service industry. There's even programs that was sterilizing African
Jews to make sure that they don't have to like this,
Like I'm like this, I wish I was making this up.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I wish this was like fake news.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I'm like, no, like it's obviously I didn't see the
sterization with my own eyes, but I saw even within Jerusalem,
I saw a clear colorism, a clear stratification. It's just
hard for somebody to look at a room full of
people of color, who already know what it's like to
be second class citizens, for you to try to convince
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me that your world is separate but equal. We already
know from our own experience that that don't work. So
it was super obvious to me as as once I
saw it. And then when we finally went to Bethlehem,
we went to the West Bank, we went to the city.
We couldn't go into Gaza because clearly I can't go
into Gaza at the time, this is twenty eighteen nineteen.
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But we were on the city right next to Gaza,
right the town, right right by the border, and they
were showing us like blown out like shells from like
bombs and stuff like that. That's freaking scary, man, Like
to see bus stops that had to be strong concrete
because they had to be able to withstand bombs Like
That's when you get to the human level. It's like
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it's dark and it's hard to not feel that the
people on the ground are caught into some stuff that
none of them ask for. The border is made up,
this line is imagining. It's just a desert. It's a
desert that somebody threw a wall on, Like it don't
have to be it, don't have to be this way,
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you feel me, it's hard to not see that is
what I'm trying to say. And then clearly who the
the aggressor is and clearly who is defending themselves. And
to know how people get radicalized you just watching it
with your own eyes, like this is how you make
a hamas anyway, that's the background all leading up to
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October seventh with the attack from Hamas. Now during that attack,
which again was the start of season nine, which we're
seeing the season finale of today Israel I'm reading from Reuters.
I'll say this the latest round. See they even said
the thing of the Israel Palestinian conflict began October seventh,
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twenty twenty three, when Hamas militants stormed across the border
into Israel communities Israel militants, Israeli says militants killed more
than twelve hundred people, mostly civilians, and took two hundred
people two hundred and fifty people into captivity in Gaza.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
So that's how this new shit started.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
And like we said in one of the first He
Wasn't Outsides episodes, we gave the example of one of
my closest friends and in a family scenario with his
cousin where his cousin got out the pin and was
staying with him and staying with my friend. And while
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this was happening, my friend's mother was going through this
situation with someone who was doing a utility service for her,
who was not treating her fairly. So this cousin who
just got out the pin here's about is auntie who
was kind enough to take him in. Who's one of
us who felt that she was being taken advantage of?
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And she was she was being treated very unfairly. And
she looked too, because my friend was only a teenager
at the time.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
She looked to her.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Nephew, a nephew for which no one else in the
family wanted to take in. After he got out of prison,
So remember that. So he felt an obligation to take
care of this far and take care of it he did.
He took that utility worker hours away and did atrocious
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things to that man, and then came back and returned
the products for which his auntie was missing. And his
auntie was like, nephew, I ain't what did you do
to that? I did not ask you. I ain't asked
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you to go that hard. I just wanted but stuff
back got dog. And then, to take the scenario further,
if that said worker who got abused in ways for
which that I can't explain, decided to bomb the entire
city of Los Angeles and wipe out the entire death
toll of the entire city because he did not like
me and treated to wag tree, this is what's happening
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right now. Like okay, so it went psycho. Now what
this brought up? Where old stuff right now? You ever
been in therapy, if you ain't been in therapy, or
if you haven't been in a relationship, you know, there
are things called triggers where a lot of times what
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we talk about right now ain't really about right now.
It's stuff that we just have not dealt with for
a long time. This scenario brought that up. And this
is what I feel got the college kids out here
finally radicalized. They finally realized that it's like, oh, this
is moden just this moment, because if it was just
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this moment, then it would be completely understandable to where
it's like, oh, you gotta go okay, you gotta go
to war like this, you know, y'all got attacked.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And then somebody say wait wait wait wait wait wait
wait no no no no no no no.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
They didn't get attacked out of nowhere. This has been
going on for a hundred years. This is just the
next and people was like, wow, one hundred years, do
tell what's been going on. Then you learn about the emphatize,
you learn about how Israel b you learn about their displacement,
the birth of Hamas and what Hamas was at one time,
you start learning all this stuff, and then you start
realizing even when they got there. One of the things
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that this brought up was the normalization. Now you remember
when I talk to you about normalization, which is essentially
what they're saying is the rest of the Arab nations.
I don't know if we gonna recognize y'all as a nation.
Remember y'all left and what you did to the people
of Palestine is unacceptable. I'm not accepting you as one
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of us because of your treatment to the very people
for which you know you displacing. I'm not gonna recognize
you like anybody got a step parent. If you get
a step parent when you were a little older and
you're like, you're not my real dad, You're not my
real mom. I am never going to call you mom.
I am never going to normalize my.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Relationship with you.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Why because you don't matter now this because I am,
in fact a stepfather. Now, granted, I've been around since
I was three, and I did everything I could to
make sure that I was the type of man that
this young lady needed. My relationship has been normalized, but
sometimes that don't happen. And they was like, until you
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do right by the Palestinians, we are not going to
acknowledge you.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
And the people who've been leading that was Iran.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Now it's not like Iran is some superhero in this story.
Like we said, Iran ain't no superhero. But Iran is
basically saying, none of us. Fuck with y'all. We don't
why are you here? We are the resistance. So they
started being coming behind groups like Hezbelah. Remember that because
Iran in Lebanon been having the smoke with any of
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the Western nations because all Israel, all Israel is to
them is just you're just an American outpost. We know
what America does. You just like them, and you pretended
to be one of us. We're supposed to feel bad
for you. We don't understand how if you went through
what you went through, why would you treat us this way?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
So Ron started backing people like Azballah.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
They started back in the Houthis feel like they going
through the same thing a Yemen. They started back in
Jumas and providing the bread, providing the guns because they
was like y'all not even supposed to be here anyway.
Now this does again, please hear what I'm saying. Iran
ain't the heroes in the story. They are not the
freedom fighters in this mug. They got their own agenda.
But they thing was again, you, what you're doing, how
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you got here is all fraudulent, It is all wrong.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
It does not have to be this way.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Now from us on the outside, who are not in
the region, it was obvious to us who had a
little bit of sense, you.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Need two states. Israel doesn't have the right to exist.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
What you don't have the right to do is to
exist on top of people that already exist.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Is the point we're trying to make.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
And of course there are extremists on the israel side,
you know, the Jewish clerics that believe that the Messiah
coming until we hold this whole land river to the sea.
There are Arabs on the Palestinian side that are like, no,
you're right, you don't get to exist as a nation.
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Are you listening to me? Not as a people?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
But where.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Is the human right that says you get to have
a country? Like why do you get to have a
what is this? Of course you can exist but I
don't mean you get to have a country. So for
the Zionists of the world, they're like, no, those are
the same things. Existing means we need a country because
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everywhere we go we're kicked out of to which the.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Arabs are like, nigga and water is wet. You think
we ain't gone through this? You feel me? That's their
attitude about it. Now.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
The issues that this brought up was to stay solution,
what exactly isn'n apartheid? Should we do normalization? And is
Benjamin Nett and Yahoo a war criminal? We talked about
what is a genocide right and how South Africa was like, oh,
I know what a genocide is and this is one
your war criminal. But then we talked about how the
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UN and the International Justice Commission has a literal definition
of what a genocide is. Now, is this a crime
against humanity? It passes every test for that? Is it
a genocide? With our eyes were like nigga, duh? And
not only that, it's because of what Benjamin Nett and
Yahoo said, We're trying to wipe We're trying to wipe
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y'all out. Now on one side of his mouth, he's saying,
unless you agree with us.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
We're trying to wipe out Hamas.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
But they did the whole sprinklesome crack on him that
we experience with the war on drugs, which is like
we kill them because they they Hamas?
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Are they friends with Hamas?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Now is people inside of net and Yahoo's cabinet who
are this is all.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Reviewed just in case we haven't got there yet.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Uh's people inside of net Yahu's cabinet that's like, no,
we need to wipe them out to where he's even like, bro,
can you chill? Cus Like we can't. I'm saying to
kill them all, all of them, And they like, if
you sign this peace treaty, now it's not even a
peace treaty. You signed this ceasefire. We're leaving and keep
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in mind. Simmering on this other pot is Net and
Yahoo faces criminal charges that as soon as this nigga
get out of office, he gona have to face drive.
We did an episode of that too. But is he
committing crimes against humanity? Are these war crimes? The starvation
that's happening, the carnage, the death toll, the untarred targeted
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bombings that he says are targeted bombings just this over exortinent.
You are doing way too much styles of warfare that
he's doing, and the way for which you're doing it
is very reminiscent to what happened to y'all as a people,
So it brought up all these things.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
You've been doing this for years.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
You want us to normalize with you, but this is
why we won't normalize with you. You're starving out your
own people. And if your said goal was to root
out terrorist groups like Hamas, you did the opposite. You
are doing what every expert says is creating extremists by
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having the state come down with the carnage that it's
coming down with. And speaking of carnage, let's go through
the numbers now, I mean next.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
To the break.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
All right back.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
So you guys want to do it just by the numbers,
So let's do it by the numbers. You guys ready
for something really fun and so cool and so exciting.
The official Palestinian Health Ministry count of more than forty
six thousand, six hundred Palestinians dead amounts of more than
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ten times the amount of the count of losses in
all previous Gaza conflicts since two thousand and eight. From
early twenty twenty four, the ministry updated its breakdown of
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its facity of its fatalities to include unidentified bodies, which
account for nearly a third.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Of the overall toll. But let's go back.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
This is, according to Associated Press, the number of people
killed in Israel around twelve hundred. The number of hostages
taken into Gaza two hundred and fifty one. The number
of hostages believed to be alive sixty two, including the
two from October twenty two thousand October seventh, twenty twenty three.
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The number of captives believed to be dead is thirty six,
including two from the October seventh.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Ready for this.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Number of Palestinians wounded in Gaza one hundred and nine
thousand people. Number of militants that Israeli military says it's
killed is over seventeen thousand. Now they haven't proven that,
but that's what they said. Number of Israeli soldiers eight
hundred and forty. Number of rockets fired from Gaza fire
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at Israel from Gaza is ten thousand.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Displacement.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
The number of Palestinians displaced in Gaza is one point
nine million. One point nine million people. That is ninety
percent of Gaza's population. Can you imagine ninety percent of
America losing their homes. Of Israelis displaced by attacks from
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Gaza at their peak is seventy five thousand, five hundred.
Number of Israelis currently displaced are around seven thousand. But
the percentage of the territory placed under Israeli evacuation, it's
about ninety percent now. The destruction of Gaza, over one
hundred and thirty six thousand structures have been broken. The
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number of housing units damaged or destroyed is over two
hundred and forty five thousand homes. Sixty nine percent of
Gaza is destroyed. US looking at videos of Eden, the
Eden fired, of Altadna, of the Palisades, you know the flyovers.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
It feels so eerie.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I have friends that are first responders that are working
in that thing. Now, just the Palisades, you mentioned half
of California. I just the total costs and damage from
this war in the first three months is eighteen point
five billion. Ninety two percent of their roads are destroyed,
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eighty four percent of health care facilities, sixty seven percent
of water and sanitation facilities. Daily amount of untreated water
and sewage flowing to the sea from Gaza is sixty
thousand cubic meters. That's two point one million cubic feuw.
The length of electrical grid destroyed five hundred and ten
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kilometers three hundred and twenty miles. It's Gaza's gone. Like
that's the best way to say it. Gaza is gone.
One of the things that is so infuriorating is every
time there was a chance for a ceasefire net and
Yahoo shot it down and would blame Hamas for it.
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It's frustrating because you know that's not the case.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Now.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Hamas was saying things very simple, which is like you
have hundreds of people who are in jail for life
for being suspected of being part of Hamas, will return
your hostages if you fucking leave. Y'all been to the
West Bank, Like of course you haven't been to the
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West Bank. That like you get like I'm just saying,
we just want to exist and to know that most
likely the ceasefire game that has been played is truly
so that or quite possibly so that Donald Trump can
get this w.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
And this is not to.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Give Joe Biden any credit, but when you look at
the ceasfire deal that's there. It's the same deal that
was dead the whole time now, believe it or not,
because of some programs I'm a part of. I have
a print out parts of the negotiation deal that apparently
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if it's been sent to me then it's not top secret.
But here are the points of the deal that I
got sent to by negotiators of it. And that's a
huge shout out to Qatar, Egypt and all the different
people that worked really hard, because at the end of
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the day, dude, like as much as I'm clearly expressing,
this negotiating piece is really really, really hard, especially because
we're talking about something that has existed for hundreds of years.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Now.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
This is not a peace treaty again, this is a ceasefire.
It is temporary, and that difference matters, which is why
I said this is a season finale and not a
series finale. And my man Schamil shaml my Bad shamo
Idris CEO Search for Common Ground, we had him on
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the first last year around this time to talk about
this very thing. The way that he explains it is
like a ceasefire is like a big gulp of oxygen.
Nothing can happen, like he says, like, nothing can happen
if you can't breathe, Like there's no we can't talk
about any justice, any We can't talk about anything else
until we can breathe, Like if you're drowning, and right
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now we're drowning in blood. He's like, if we can
just at least get a gulp of air. So see
the ceasefire as a gulp of air. It's just it's
our first, and then we can deal with everything else
after we can breathe. That is not to remove the
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celebration that Minnie Palestinians are feeling right now and the
bliss that the families of return hostages are feeling right now.
But understand that this is this is more like your
first gulp of fresh air.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
And I want to give a shout out. I don't
want to.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Like.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
What I'm saying is I'm not going to shit on
their work.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
A lot of times us like activists, will shit on
the work that the really hard work that somebody got
to do to even get it to this point. You know,
I say this also being fully aware of what it's
like to negotiate piece, or at least a ceasefire, a
truce between rival neighborhoods, let alone rival nations. I'm going
to read a few things from this appendix about which
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are like the deal points. So you're supposed to start
the nineteenth and in the most shady way possible is
re'll just throw in a bunch of extra licks, dropped
a bunch of extra bombs.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Hundred more people died because.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
It was like, well, we weren'tupposed to stop till nineteenth,
Like the bel didn't ring yet, so we keep bombing.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Just it's it's hard to cheer for, y'all.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Now, okay, So the Stage two preparations the parties in
the Mediator's objective is to achieve a final consensus to
implement the May twenty seventh, which is my birthday, twenty
twenty four, agreement of exchange of hostages and prisoners and
the return of sustainable claim, which would achieve a permanent
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cease fire. Now keep in mind again, this is what
I'm trying to tell you. It's been on the table
since May twenty seventh to twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
So don't y'all dare give Trump the credit for this?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
All right, All procedures of the first stage will continue
in Stage two, so as long as the negotiations and
the conditions of implementing Stage two are ongoing, and the
guarantee your cores of this agreement shall work to ensure
the negotiations will continue until the agreement is reached. So
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here are the stages. The withdrawal of Israeli forces right
eastwards from densely populated areas along the Gaza Strip, including
Wadi Gaza right, and the Israeli forces will be deployed
in a perimeter seven hundred meters with an exception of
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five localized points to be increased to no more than
four hundred meters maps agreed on by both sides.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Right prisoner exchange.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
The nine ill and wounded of the list of thirty
three will be released in exchange for the one hundred
and ten Palestinian prisoners with life sentences, is will release
one thousand Gaza detainees elderly men.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Kay, I can't read that. Not allowed to say that, right,
and then.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Let me move on because some of this I'm not
allowed to say.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
The Philadelphi Corridor.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
The israel Day side will gradually reduce its forces in
the corridor area during stage one, based on the accompanying
maps and agreement on both flies. And then after the
last hostage is released from stage one on day forty two,
the Israeli forces will begin to withdraw and complete with
grin their withdrawal and complete it no later than day
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fifty on the Rafa Boarding crossing will be ready to
transfer civilians and the wounded. After the release of all women,
civilian and soldiers. Israel will work towards the readiness of
this crossing as soon as the agreement is signed. There's
an exit of all wounded civilians right and a return
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of unarmed and internally displaced. So these are the terms
that I know of. And then the last one is
the humanitarian aid protocol. Humanitarian aid procedures under this agreement
will be done subject to the humanitarian protocol agreed upon
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under the.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Two supervised mediators.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Give our people back, let's exchange our people, let's put
our guns down.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Now, Clearly, this does not solve the two state solution issue.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
This does not fix the settlements in the West Bank.
This will not change anyone's mind concerning their prejudice.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
But here's the thought.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
On the Hama side, nig you're out of guns, bro,
because Hesbella got the ass whooked. The Houthis jumped in
and they really didn't help. Iran's busy right now because
the asside regimee just fell. You ain't got no backup
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because you are really really in sent advised to end
this shit. On the Israeli side, all sympathies has left.
No one has sympathy for you anymore. And you got
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a president coming in from America who is remember your pusher,
who's like, if you don't end this shit, I'm blowing
this mug up.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Now. We don't know what that means. We just know that.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Trump is so messy that it could mean a million things.
Israel's incentivized to keep Trump on his side. On their
side also because like I said that in Yahoo facing
charges just like Trump is, so he's absolutely incentivized to like.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Make sure the shit get done.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
And as of today, some people have returned home, which
is something to try celebrate. People were able to come
back and see the holes blew out of their houses,
but at least the bomb stopped. Now, the last question
I would ask y'all is who won this? We we
think one is that even the right term Palestine can
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say if their hope was to remind the rest of
the world of what they were going through. That's what
they said, Or ask what Hama said. It's like we're
trying to remind like y'all forgot about us. This is
the only way to get everybody to pay attention to
like the apartheid we existed under.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Their entire city is destroyed.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Like I said, of this of Goads's displaced, it's sewage,
it's famine. This is gonna go on for decades, even
if even after the bomb stops. Children are dead, the
infrastructures destroyed. Hermasa is definitely not gone. But they got
the world's attention. But they didn't wipe They did and
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get wiped out.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Is that a win? It survived another round? Israel? Did
you win?
Speaker 2 (46:09):
You wiped out ninety percent of Gaza. We didn't end
jim As. Did you get your hostages back? I mean
you could have got your hostages back on May in May,
so that's not just what you wanted. Did you prove
your point? You win your your big tough guy?
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Did you win?
Speaker 2 (46:30):
These are the questions when you grew up in the hood,
like you know, and I say that loosely, like My
upbringing wasn't that bad. Like it could have been much worse.
It was split, you know, like I got to go
to high school in the Inland Empire and it was nice.
Now I didn't go all the way out to like
the you know, Sam Fardino, I'd be different when went
all the way out there no more, you know what
(46:50):
I'm saying. But like my high school, it wasn't that bad.
My neighborhood I'm from was wild, but definitely I hadn't
experience what a lot of my friends experienced a lot
of my family experience. But that being said, you get
a little space from it. You was like, bust this mission,
you know, you throw this fade, you know, you crash
(47:11):
out here and there, Like.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
What's this? Did we win'?
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (47:18):
What did we accomplish? I don't know, man, nobody wins
in the family feud. We'll see what next season holds
the politics. All right, now, don't you hit stop on
(47:42):
this pod. You better listen to these credits. I need
you to finish this thing so I can get the
download numbers. Okay, so don't stop it yet, but listen.
This was recorded in East Lost Boyle Heights by your
Boy Propaganda tap in with me at prop hip Hop
dot If you're in the Coldbrew coffee we got Terraform Coldbrew.
(48:04):
You can go there dot com and use promo code
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was mixed, edited, and mastered by your Boy Matt Alsowski
Killing the Beat Softly. Check out his website Matdowsowski dot com.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
I'm a speller for you because I know M A
T T O S O W s ki.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Dot com Matthowsowski dot com. He got more music and
stuff like that on there, so gonna check out The
heat Politics is a member of Cool Zone Media. Executive
produced by Sophie Lichterman, part of the iHeartMedia podcast network.
Your theme music and scoring is also by the one
and nobly Mattowsowski. Still killing the beat softly, So listen,
(48:50):
don't let nobody lie to you. If you understand urban living,
you understand politics. These people is not smarter than you.
We'll see y'all next week. Addition, and Roman of the
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