June 5, 2023 • 48 mins
Oh what could have been…but thank goodness it wasn’t! Gigi shares the incredible path she was on and what happened to change her direction in life! Plus, family dynamic and amazing relationship moments!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow, I ambarrassed.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey guys, it's Paris. I'm back with another episode of
I Am Paris. I am so excited about today's guest.
It is Pride month and we are celebrating today with
the Queen, my good friend Gigi gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hey, hey, hey, I love thanks for having me too.
You look gorgeous in your relow love.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Jealous of the whole thing from head to toe.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I love the camel.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
It's giving simple life it is. That's why I did it. Guys,
that's hot. Loves it well. Thank you for having men
is like so special and I feel like you are
such like a queer icon that I'm such an honor
to be here.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I'm so happy.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, last time we were at my other house, Club Paris,
when we were doing This is Paris my podcast before.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
So it's great to be back.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
It's kind of crazy to think how much are lives
have changed, because I remember I looked back on that
photo today and it was me, Nats and you in
Club Paris, which you have like renovated the whole other
life you had then and then renovated, and then now
you're here in this new house with like a full
on husband a little bebe how is nuts. He's good
(01:19):
speaking of just life changes and stuff. I feel like
he might have was he identifying as male, then I
don't think he was like everyone's just changing up on
us literally. I mean, if he was, he was very
newly into his transition. But he's good. He is killing
it with his fashion brand, Strike Oil, and we are just,
(01:41):
you know, just a gorge couple happy.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Both are always so proud of him.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And just like last time we were talking when we
were at my This is Paris movie premiere party at
my mom's house, and when he was just telling me
just that he went through certain things, and I don't know,
it was just nice to hear the people felt less
alone watching the film.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
He was somebody that opened up. I think in the
last podcast we talked about this, he opened up so
much to me after watching and I was like, I
didn't know a lot of what he went through, and
it's like you telling your story really just it just
goes to show like that we're talking about Pride Month,
like everybody being out in loud and proud of who
they are and their stories and stuff. You never know
(02:29):
who it's going to touch. And I certainly didn't think
that it would touch my husband, you know, let alone
anybody around me. But it makes sense because you guys
kind of were in the same area, and you know,
it's not that far off of the realm of like possibility.
So I don't know, well, I didn't really think that,
but you really helped him open up a lot, and
(02:51):
with so many other people obviously, and with everything that
you're doing now, it's life changing for so many people.
But you really helped my husband like open up about
who he was, even to me. And he's been so
open about it, like on social media, which isn't really
his shit, which I love, but he's not like obsessed
like I am. Like I could be the one that's obsessed,
(03:12):
not both of us. But he is just so much
more comfortable now sharing that because I think that you
made it a lot less awkward and scary.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
That's what makes it all worth it to me. If
going through all that and then being able to make
a difference for other people's lives and changing laws and
all these things.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I know that's what I was. I was like, oh
my god, is it bills or laws? I didn't know,
but I killing it with all that like, it's crazy.
Every single time I see your photos in DC, I'm like,
that bitch better work in her power suit. Thank you,
Like it looks literally like Barbie took DC.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's so good.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Thank you Elle Woods?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yes, oh yeah, what's with my references today?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Well, it's both like Barbie meets all Woods.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So now we're going to pull some icebreaker questions from
a little card deck.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yes, have them here. I hope these are controversial and wild.
I'm feeling it. Okay, So I'm gonna ask you three first,
what one accomplishment are you most proud of? That's hard
for you. I feel so many. I'm proud of my son.
M hmm, Phoenix, So I thought you were gonna say.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So proud of him. I'm proud of the person that
I am today and how strong I am and the
empire I've built, and how now I'm really turning my
pain into a purpose and being the hero that I
always needed when I was a little girl obsessed.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Good answer, Paris, Yeah, good answer. It said one accomplishment,
but she gave us seven. She's like, I can't just
stick to one. Okay, question number two, if you had to,
if you have to relive the same day for the
rest of your life. Which day would you choose? Like
Groundhog Day? That's hard.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I know that's so many. I wouldn't want to every day.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I know I'll get bored. I would get bored too,
But I'm like, sure, if I had to, I had to.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Like my wedding day, I was SA.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
One of my parties, I know, right, that's that's the
true answer.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
But the wedding, like getting married every single day would.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Be just so much.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
It's like a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Parties are just like more fun the young carnival every day. Yes,
so fun every day, but like no hangovers, like you
wake up.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Fresh, just like a new day every time. I like that.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Okay, work, that's the answer. What book has made the
biggest impact on your life?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
My book?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, there's the memoir. Hello, that book has changed my life.
Like the first step was my documentary and then now
my book. Just feel I know myself so much better
and people understand me more, and I just feel just
like so much weight off my shoulders. And just the
response to the book has been so incredible, like so
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many people reaching out and saying how much it touched
them and just talking about things I never told anyone,
and getting out just so much. There's just so much
trauma that I've held in for so long, and I
just was like escaping by being this character, and then
I just forgot who I was before all the trauma
and abuse happened to me when I was a teenager
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at those schools. So it's just been like this whole
like self discovery process.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
It was crazy to me because I was flipping through
it when I first got it, and like the little
crylic case that it came in so cute cut. I
pre ordered one and then that one is just going
to stay out like for display because it's so pretty
and I've never seen like that, and it's very like
holographic like those trays. Yes, And I was slipping through
it and I was like, I just wonder like if
(07:00):
I like know what's in here already or whatever. But
every single page that I went to it was literally
something I didn't know. So I feel like people need
to know that you really went off in the book.
You didn't hold back, No, I did an old buck. Yeah,
and that's very impressive, thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
In my turn hard em, you could pick up a
skill instantly, what would it be singing.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
You do sing I was in your music video.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, that was like more talking.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
It's cute.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Oh my god, this is so Do you like to party? Yeah, no,
I'm talking like I'm talking like Ariana Grande singing. I
think that would be so dope.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
You can do it, I mean right, yeah, why not?
You could do anything?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Hello, yes, opening your fucking vocal chords up and being
a songbird like ah, that would be great, just instantly.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
So I've been doing all week, just rehearsals and singing
while dancing. I'm like, it's so scary. I'm so like
freaking out.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Oh You're gonna kill it, are you.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I'm going to be there screaming my head off, extensions flying.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I'm so scared.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, that is nerve wracking, but I feel like you
kill it. I remember we did my birthday at your
place in New York and you were on the mic
and you were like, and here she is, and it
was like literally just like friends, like whatever, and you
gave it to me and I was like, I'm nervous.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You were like you love it and gave it to me.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I always think about that, and I feel like you
just need to hear that you love it, get into it.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yes, yeah, I'm just like I've never done it before,
like choreographed dance while singing live at a concert, Like
it's just a.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Lot, maybe hair up so less sweat.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I was thinking the hair up too, because the outfits
and like getting stuck in the fan. I was thinking,
like a hi ponytail with all the hair puld.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Back, all the hair puld by yut. Yeah, just give
face and like Paris sunglasses.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
That's what I've been doing rehearsals.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I've not taken this result stage.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Oh my god, that's so eciting. I'm excited for you.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I'm really excited. What are you gonaware.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Something so Paris people are going to think that I
am your backup dancer. Yes, like that like a crystallized
body suit or like the shortest mini dress of life.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Maybe even like some slive gloves in your ye yes
please yeah, I'm coming through.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I cannot wait thking all my looks out now.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I actually think this is so embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Talking about the concert, I was texting with Carter because
I was like, hey, I know, like the concert is tomorrow,
and I want to make sure that like I'm good
to go. I'm not going to be like waiting or whatever,
like I want to be able to see her. And
he was like, hey, so it's actually in one month.
I was like, wait, it's not May seventh, it's June seventh.
And he was like yeah. And I was like, I
(09:49):
am so just delete my number, like I'm so sorry,
ire so embarrassing. And then you came on and you
were like, oh, yeah, no, it's fine, prepared early.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah. I was like, oh my god, how like ready
am I.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I'm so glad that you didn't actually go there. It
would have been some like random person for.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Me, okay, like oh parents looks different.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Oh, I'm so excited. I can't wait to see everyone.
Just feel the energy in the room.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
It's gonna be me, Hagar, It's going to be That's
gonna be a day you want to live over. Yeah, hopefully.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Nerves.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I'm like, the nerves have been so bad and my
back has just been so messed up with all the
choreo everything I already have, Like my disc is like
shut so much sliving and jumping and DJing and like
jumping into with sticks and chields.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Mind over matter, The mind breaks before the body really
mm hmm okay, that's what my trainer tells me. At
least mind over matter. You're like, but it hurts, it hurts.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I'll try to ignore it. What's what else we got here?
What's one of your pet peeves? Mmmm?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I think my biggest pet peeve is I mean, I
have so many. I hate when people smell bad or
when they're annoying, like too much, too hungry yeah yeah, yeah,
like the hungry tiger thing that you say. Yeah, it's
like read the room. Yeah, I hate that. Yeah. I
(11:27):
also don't like liars. I feel like, if yeah, just
be honest, like even if it's embarrassing or whatever, like
just be honest, yeah, because like it's so much more
to keep up a lie or I don't know, like
in a friendship or whatever. Like I've had friends where
I'm like trying to ask them something and they like
like beat around the bush, and it's like, I don't know,
just be honest. It's like unless it's something like really crazy,
(11:48):
then you can lie. But like for little things, I
don't know, you know what I'm trying. Yeah, it's annoying.
It's like I can always tell, so it's just like,
don't lie to me. Yeah, I know, and like your
waste my time.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, especially if it's like someone that you are friends
with or trust. Yeah yeah yeah, unless it's a lie
to protect yourself. It's like okay, okay, okay, I'll give
you that one. Yeah, I just like, don't want to
hurt their feelings. That's like a nice thing.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, exactly. Other than that, the list could go on
and on. Honestly, with pet Peeves, yes, it really could.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You could go back in time. What one thing would
you tell your teenage self.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I would tell my teenage self to transition earlier. I
would be like, go out there, be more shameless, be crazier,
because you're going to meet people that will change your life,
don't hold And I was already crazy. I was already
so savage growing up. So I don't know how I
would be able to be more savage. But it took
me till I was nineteen to meet like another trans girl.
(12:58):
And I feel like if I could have done that sooner,
I could have been I could have been out. I
could have told my mom while she was still here
and with us. So like, there's just like a lot
of things could have changed. But I also don't really
regret anything because I feel like I was so strong
willed from such a young age.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
But I think it's like.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Good advice for everybody just to live more authentically and
I don't know, more more passionately, because I feel like
people just always are like worried about what everyone's going
to think about them, and it just takes people a
long time to come out of their shells and be
completely authentic. And we're both like a testament to that,
I feel, And yeah, I would just want to shake
my younger self and be like, listen, it's not that deep,
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like you got this. But yeah, I don't really regret anything.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Also, now you can be an inspiration to others, exactly,
be the hero that you needed on your teen Yes, exactly.
So I'm so sorry about your mom, Like I can't.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I'm thinking you, like how difficult that was.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I mean it pushed me to being out and trans really,
I was just like I reached a point where I
got I don't know, there's like what seven stages of
grief or whatever, five six, seven.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And I didn't go to therapy after which my dad
tried to make me and my brothers go into but
I was just such like I was a rebel. I
was like I just wanted to be solow. So I
just got really angry at first. I was like, this
is so unfair that she was taken from us so early.
I'm hiding this inside. I'm taking hormones and I just
have had it so like fuck it, you know. And
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I think that that was like my first stage of grief,
just anger, like why is this happening? And I've come
to find out that life doesn't happen to you, it
happens for you, which sounds very therapy, but I'm still
not in therapy. But it's like it really puts into
perspective for me, like every single day, like this is
happening for me, this is happening, It's not happening to me,
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Like why is this happening to me? I'm not going
to be this victim of like I hate victims. Also,
that might be a pet peeve of mine too, like
oh my.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
God, poor me.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Like no, I never want anyone feeling bad for me.
It's just something that I will literally like carry to
the day I die. But I just got really angry
and I was like, you know, what. I'm just gonna
do this for me because I need to be happy.
And I think it was like anger and selfishness because
I had been holding back for so long.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I can't even imagine going through that like losing my mom.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You guys are so close. Yeah, I mean, it was
definitely the most traumatic. That's not a day I would
ever want to live through again. Ever. It was so
wild and surreal. But everyone deals with grief differently, and
I feel like you never know who you're going to
deal with it and unless you're in it. But obviously
your parents are like number one, and that's something that
I never thought that I would deal with, you know,
(15:48):
but look at me now. I would not be here,
you know. If that hadn't happened to me. I don't
know if I would have transitioned. I don't know if
I would have been as confident.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I don't know. Just life just happens for you.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Like I don't think that you're given something that you
can't handle kind of vibe, you know, and at the
moment it seems so crazy and savage and unfair, and
you can play the victim, but you can also choose
not to. And I was listening to a j Shaddy
podcast recently.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I was just house a few weeks ago doing the podcast.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Oh you were, I'm obsessed with it.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
And he was saying that basically along the same lines
of like, you know, everything people think that like, oh
my god, this is so dramatic. I can't get through this.
Like there's no way I'm going to be able to
get through this, whether it's like a breakup or a death,
or you're transitioning, or it's financial whatever. But he was
saying like, in a year's time, you're going to look
back and be like, oh my god, that time was
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so hard.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Like it just is like for a chapter or like
a season in your life. So although grief is forever, obviously,
it's the instant pain of it that you have to
be like, Okay, this will just it will pass. And
I think perspective is just everything, like mind over matter,
because if you sit in it, you will get depressed
and nothing will change. And you just have to power on.
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And I feel like you're such a good example of that.
You just kill it and keep it moving and always
stay positive and always look happy, you know, like never
let them see you crumble.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
It doesn't kill you. It makes you stronger for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yes, Kelly Clarkson, I love that song too iconic, but yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
That's so true.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Just especially I remember being a teenager and like having
a breakup or something like you think like your world
is over and you're just like, I will never love
anyone again. This is you think it's most painful thing,
and then you look back and you're like, oh my god,
I can't believe I even cared.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
It wasn't that bad. Yeah, you know, like we can
laugh at about so many things now. Yeah, I remember
my first breakup NAT's Close Your Ears. It was like
I felt like I was gonna die, Like my heart
was like hurting and breaking. And then I look back
now and it's like a joke, Like that was like
so dumb. So nothing's ever really that deep. Although I
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don't want to compare grief to not being that deep,
because I think it's one of the most sad things
that you can go through in life. But yeah, just
perspective is everything. I think that's important to know, and
it's like it's survival mechanism to think that way. Also,
because you can get really fucking dark, really quick.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah. Yeah, it's so true of.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Very strong survivor instincts. M M.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
We do it without even noticing too, which is crazy.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yeah, just like looking back on things.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
M hm.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
So you grew up in Montreal, Canada.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yes, it was like, I don't know, a smaller town.
I always knew that. Well, my family grew up in Montreal,
and then we moved to Toronto, which is like a
little bit bigger.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I love a city, I do too.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I think it's come a long way, but back in
the day it was like not as diverse. It's very
diverse within like the cultures and like the races and everybody.
So like I grew up within a melting pot. So
I was never like judgmental, like, which was fabulous, you know,
But I just felt like I was a big fish
in a small pond. And I always knew that I
wanted to either like move to New York or to
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la And I grew up like watching like the Hills
and like the simple life obviously, and I just always
knew like, yeah, I just wanted I wanted more. I
wanted less of a conservative vibe around me. And I
always like knew whenever I went like out to clubs,
or I met people like in high school that were
like a little bit different. I was like, this is
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the vibe that I want to be surrounded by, like
different fun people, and a lot of that wasn't in Toronto.
Everyone's kind of the same, which is great for them.
I just didn't really fit in.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yes, do you miss it?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I love going home. I definitely don't miss living there,
But I love going home and seeing everybody and seeing
my family because I'm like the only one out here.
But now I have a chosen family in La, so
I don't miss it as much because I don't feel
as alone.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Yeah, La is more fun.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, I always knew.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I like it though there, but it's cute for like
like a week, not to like live. No, I would
never want to like settle down there. Although I feel
like my upbringing was really normal, which really helped with me.
I don't know, I feel like if I were I
can't picture myself growing up anywhere else, if that makes sense.
It was like normal suburbia and then I kind of
just like gravitated in towards the differentness.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yes, which I love.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
And how old were you when you moved?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
When I moved to La when I moved to La
I don't even remember. I think nineteen, I want to say,
or maybe eighteen. I was like, staying out here, you
just immediately fell in love. Yeah, I was coming out
here for work a little bit, and then I was like, Okay,
I haven't really experienced much yet. And then when I
started like traveling around like the city and meeting different friends,
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some of which aren't my friends anymore obviously, why just
you like learn and grow, you know, different friends, right, Yeah, Yeah,
I look back and I look back at pictures and
I'm like, I used to spend every day with that person,
Like how crazy. But I feel like it's also such
a lesson too, because I feel like as a queer person,
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like I was out as trans freshly, and I thought
that that core of friends was my chosen family. But
like people show their true colors, people like grow apart,
and that's fine. So it's like you can't be defined
to a friend group. And I I feel like you've
had so many friends of like come and gone for
like so many different reasons. But like being a queer person,
it's I think it's more intense because we have that
(21:41):
bond of being you know, some of us are some
of us are banished by our families, and you know,
we always felt kind of like freaks in a way.
Especially I know a lot of my trans girlfriends have
felt like that. And it's like you make yourself feel
like not a freak when you're around other trans girls.
It's like I'm not a freak anymore because like, look
at you, like we're both if we're if we're freaks,
(22:01):
we're both freaks together, which makes you feel like family exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
But yeah, La is everything. I'm obsessed. You can't picture
myself anywhere else.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
It's just.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
There's nowhere like in the planet.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
It's always great, like I love Europe and traveling, but
coming home, I'm just like ugh, like breathe.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, even when I go home to Toronto now, it
doesn't even really feel like home, Like I just feel
like I'm like visiting books.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Your family still there?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Are you and your dad clothes?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:34):
And he's always been supportive I've seen.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, he's an angel. He is an angel.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
People literally will like come up to him and like
in the mall and like ask him like for like
trans advice for like their kids, or like his coworkers.
He's retired, but his coworkers will like email him and
like ask for advice. And I'm like, Dad, you're like
a fairy godfather for the trans community. Like and he
was like, I did not know that this would happen.
But he's a good sport and he's just gives advice
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based off me his daughter.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
That's really lucky.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I know a lot of people like not a day
goes by where I don't realize how blessed I am.
I also made him come around because he was like
not really for it at first. He got a little scared,
but that's just all out of love. I see that.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Now.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
What did you say to him?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I basically just told him to get intowit or get lost.
That was my first reaction. I was like, I'm going
to do this. I'm going to get these surgeries. This
is going to be my new name. And it was
he was like whoa, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa,
Like your.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Mom just died.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
This is like so intense, And I'm like I've been
doing this, I've been thinking about this, and he was like, okay,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
And then before we knew it.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
We were traveling and making changes, and he was like, Okay,
well I'm going to come with you for every single
thing that you want to do. And I was like,
you don't have to, like, don't worry about it, like
it's really not that deep. And he was like no,
like you're you're my child. I want to be there
for you. And he came with me to get my boobs.
He came with me to get a few things I
did to my face, and I just I can't believe
(24:06):
that I put him through that so aggressively, because I
just it was the changes I need to make. But
I also wasn't being considered of him and his feelings.
I kind of was just like, you know, listen or not.
But that's the tourus in me, the tourist areas in me.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I burn. Yes, yeah, So.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Tell me more about your diving career. You were a
nationally ranked diver and even qualified for the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I was on my way to the Olympics as a diver.
I was I dove like from age eight to fifteen,
and I was like number one in Canada literally like
gold medal, and they like were wanting me to go
to the Olympics. They were going to give me like
money to go with them, and I just was like, no,
I don't want to do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Really, yes, So we were like about to literally go
the Olympics and You're just like no.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah, yeah, And my mom was like, okay, well if
you really like because I was like I really don't
want to, Like I just had like found these people
online that I like liked who are doing like makeup videos,
and I was like, I really I want to do that,
like that's like I want to, like I'm so creative.
And I was just like I'm not into sports anymore,
like I want to come out as like gay back then.
I was like I just don't want to do this anymore.
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And my mom was like she was pissed because she
had driven me to like diving practice every single night,
six days a week for like eight years, and she's
like I thought, this is what we were working towards
the Olympics, like this is and we're getting money, like
this is good news.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
And I was like I don't really want to do
that anymore.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
So she's like, Okay, if you're serious about quitting, you're
going to go to the pool. We're going to drive
to practice tonight and you're going to tell your coach
that you're quitting, like somebody that you've worked with for
eight years. And I was like, oh my god, no,
can we just call him? And I was like can
you just text him? And she was like no, if
you're serious, you're going to be an adult about this.
So like I went down, had to like talk to him.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
It was so awful. She was crying, My mom was crying.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
He's like this, like really stoic, like Russian coach, like
super what you would think, and he was like really disappointed.
And then I just said by them all my teammates
and left and that was it.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
And that was it. I never went back.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Do you like to swim now?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Except like my hair now? Is it an issue? I
used to be like a water baby before though, now you're.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Like a mermaid hot photos not getting your hair like
I'll go into my ankles, just take my pick.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I just that time is like seems like a different
life to me. Honestly.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Are you friends with people from your old school?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
We'll like hit each other up on like Facebook sometimes,
but like I'm not even on Facebook, so like I'll
just go on and be like, oh my god, all
these messages, but it's like cute to like scroll through
their picks and see where they are.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Were people nice too, and you're in school or.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I felt like I had to honestly be be a
bully or be bullied because a lot of the time
people would just like pick on me because I was
like obviously different. I was just always myself, like I
didn't know how to be anything but myself. So I
would just talk how I wanted, and I'm like the
school yard. I remember so many people would just be
(27:08):
like talking about me or like staring at me and
just being like assholes. And I was like, Okay, well
I'm not going to let people treat me like this,
but I'm not going to get physical, so I'm going
to fight back. And that was like one of my
defense mechanisms back in the day. It was to really
defend myself, and if I saw any bit of meanness,
I would just come for the people and or ignore it,
(27:31):
but like scream at them, not really scream at them,
kind of just like make fun of them back and
like build a group of friends that like would that
would do the same, and then before you knew it,
I wasn't getting bullied anymore. It's not advice I would give,
but that's like my survival technique.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, kids could be so mean. Yeah, were you ever bullied? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Kids would just make fun of me for silly things
like oh your name is Paris. Oh I feel like, yeah,
it's everything, Like you're like like London Hyatt, like just
say all these things that were like not mean, but
or like, oh, your lips are so big.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
It's like things like.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
That, Yeah, how I love them? Yeah, like I'm obsessed. Yeah,
I think you're obsessed. How are your lips? Nowadays, it's
just so much easier to be nicer. I feel like
if you're like, I don't know, feeling a vibe towards somebody,
it's like takes so much to like say something out
(28:34):
loud that's negative, you know, Like that's why I like
hate comments and stuff. I just never really I don't
get them, Like I was never somebody to go on
somebody's page and write something negative about them, Like that's
just not not what I would ever do. It's like
I'll just keep it moving.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
It's like I feel bad for people who have that
much time on their hands.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, I just don't get it, Like, are you that
much of a loser?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah, some people literally just make all these fake account yeah,
and just do that all day long.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
To people, it's like it's awful. Get a life, Get
a life, Get a grip. So let's talk about YouTube.
When did you discover your passion for makeup. I've probably
discovered in like two thousand and eight, I would say,
(29:25):
which is when I created my channel, or two thousand
and nine. And I was just so inspired by like
a few people on MySpace. Do you remember like Forbidden
on MySpace. Yeah, she was like a makeup artist, like
super dope, dope. I think her name was like Christina something.
She was very like La tatted, but like I'm sure
you knew her probably yeah, I think she actually is
(29:46):
like passed on now.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
She did.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
And I would just like go to the mall like
steal eyeliner and like you know, just like I don't know,
experiment in my room. And then I saw people recording
themselves online and I was like I want to do that.
So I just grabbed my digital camera that I had,
which is like four megapixels, like horrible, and I just
started recording and then uploading, and then people would like
(30:09):
write back and I'd be like, oh my god, you're
from Australia, like I'm connecting with you, what the fuck?
And then I would just keep making videos and then
I was addicted. I have like an addictive personality, and
I was like, I want to do my makeup every
day and I want to like do a different color
every day, and you did pretty much yeah, And I
would just like experiment in my room at night and
just be a loner.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
But I was having fun.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
So then you just started doing makeup and then you're like,
I just want to build a brand out of this.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I always knew, like I started out with like the
last name gorgeous, and it wasn't even about like being beautiful,
because obviously we all want to be like beautiful and
gorgeous and feminine and pretty well people who want to
identify like that obviously, but I always did and I
just felt like it wasn't even about that. It was
about being authentic and being like gorgeous, Like I don't know,
just the word always resonated with me. I was like,
(30:59):
this is like a word that I want a brand,
and I really want like this to just be me
and it just makes me feel so good inside and
it just it still does. So soon after that, I
was like, yeah, this is like what I want to do,
and I'm so happy that I left diving, and like
I trusted my instincts and it would have been easy
to go that route to go to the Olympics, but
(31:20):
I just knew it was the harder decision needed to
be made, and I just was like, I got to
do this for me, and I was I'm so happy
that I did. Who knows where I would be at
be a washed up Olympian. Well, I feel like divers
they don't make it past like twenty five. It's like
a pretty young sport. So like I don't know what
(31:40):
I would I be coaching diving, Like, oh no, I
had enough years of smelling like chlorine.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
No, it's time to be gorgeous and fabulous.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yes, I think it was just like everything happens for
a reason, and trust your instincts, even even if it's
the harder thing to do.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
And how many videos do you think that you've made?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
I don't even know, probably like over like five hundred,
I would say, And like not all beauty and fashion too,
Like I share my life so much, and it's like
a lot of them are about like my relationship or
like my sexual orientation and like my journey with having
a baby, and like just all the most gnarly things
that you could ever imagine live on my YouTube channel.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
So it's like your therapist, because you don't see a therapist.
So what's kind of like that is?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Yeah, I think talking to a camera alone in a room.
Don't get me wrong, it feels natural to me, but
I think it's a really weird thing to do, you know,
Like a lot of people think it's so weird. And
I remember in school back in the day, in high school,
I was like the only person really doing it, where
I'm sure now in high schools there's so many people
doing it, you know. Like I've seen like in like Target,
(32:46):
like a influencer gift like or kid sets like as
in the toy section, and I'm like, oh my god,
that was like not a thing when I was growing up,
so insane. But yeah, I feel like people would just
think I was so weird back in the day for that.
Now it's like, look, bitch, yeah exactly, I was doing
what everyone's doing now.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
It's weirdos ahead of our time, both of us.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yes, og influencer.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Hmmm. So what was it like to become more and
more famous and recognize as your audience grew.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
It's nice having people like relate with me, and I
just I just felt like I had like an army
of people that just were like my safety blanket, and like,
I don't know, whenever I got like a nice comment,
I was like, it just made me feel more confident.
Like I was like, I'm affecting them in a good way,
and I'm like, I'm very proud that I'm, you know,
making a positive influence on this world, even if it
(33:42):
was just like you look beautiful or like I'm going
to try this, make about or whatever. Inspiring people, Yeah,
inspiring them in any way. That's definitely just made me
feel good and loved and like, who doesn't want to
feel like that?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
True. Do you remember the first time that someone asked
for your autograph for a photo?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I do.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I was I just had started making videos and like
putting myself out there, and I was working at a
clothing store in the mall and it was called Blue Notes.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I don't know if it's like a round anymore.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
But I was folding up like this gene wall, like
it was like a huge wall of jeens, kind of
like an abercrom and Fitch. And I was like, but like,
way more jeans cause it was like a cheaper store.
I don't know why that makes sense, but it was
like thousands of jeens. So I'm like working getting into it,
and then I'm like putting them back and then this
girl comes up behind me and she says my name
and she's like, oh my god, like what are you
(34:34):
doing here? And I was like, oh, I work here,
and she's like, oh my god. I didn't know that
you like had a real job. I thought you like
made videos online and I was like, no, I do both,
Like I just like, you know, I have fun with
those videos. And she was like can I have a
photo and then took a photo left, and then my
manager was like what the fuck was that about? And
I was like, oh, I kind of do these videos
on the side. And then soon after that I quit. Yes,
(34:54):
like this cannot be happening to me.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
It's so cute.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, I got embarrassed by it, but it was sweet.
Looking back.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
The La No in Toronto, this is like right after
when you're nineteen, when I was probably sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Oh wow, yeah, so you've been doing this a while.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
What do you remember the first time we met?
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Oh, first time we met? We met? Do you remember?
Speaker 4 (35:22):
There's been so many times. I'm not sure which one
is the first.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I just remember because there's a photo. It just like
went back in my head.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
I'm imagining the photo now too. Where were we.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
It was like summer.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
It was with Alison Melnick and we were at I
think this is the first time at least, don't quote me,
but we were at the Standard pool. Is it called
the Standard the one with the blue rug?
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Yeah, like the seventies.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yes, Yeah, we were there, and I was there with
Alison Melnick and we were like in a room whatever,
and then we went down to the pool and I
was like, oh my god, is that Paris. And then
she's like, yeah, come over. So we all took a photo.
But I don't know if we like talk talked, but
it was like just one of those moments where I'm like,
oh my god, Paris. And I had been friends with
Alison for a while and I saw her like on
your show.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
So yeah, that was it was cool. When was that,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
I think honestly, I was probably like eighteen or maybe
like nineteen because I'm imagining the photo and I still
had that like horrible haircut I had, and I think
that was the past, like nineteen. Yes, yeah, I think
that was the first time.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
And then what other memories do you have with me?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I mean, I remember in Vegas one time when I
think you were djaying yes and you had on gold
We all met out.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Kathy was there too. We all met out, and you
were wearing this like.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Gold choker and I like took it off of you
and I like like pretended to throw it into the crowd.
You like turned around. You were like Gigi stop, and
I was like, kidding, gotcha. But I was just like,
oh my god, I can't believe I did that. This
can't be trusted when I drink sometimes.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
That was it like the MGM or something? Yeah, in Vegas, Yeah,
at the really crazy club.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah. We didn't stay for long.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
During like the Beauty like honors one of those.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, I forget why we were there.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
It's like some event for beauty.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yeah, beauty, not a brand, just beauty.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah. And then when we used to go out and
LA was fun.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
So many house parties. It's just so many memories.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Life is so different now, I know, right, do you
go out anymore? Like took clubs? Or is everything?
Speaker 3 (37:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I do?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Oh you do?
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Like what is actually good anymore?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I mean I'm kind of like just wherever the wind
takes me kind of vibe. But yeah, I'm trying to
get it all out of my system because I know
life's going to change when I have a kid, which
I don't even know when that's gonna be. But you know,
now I'm thirty one and I'm like, Okay, I'm married,
but I still want to slive.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, so I'm not going to stop sliving.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
You have a lot of time to live.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah that's what I think too. Yeah, yeah, so I
still love raging. But you know what, it's actually I
have a lot more parties at my house because I
just feel like it's like safer, it's more fun, it's
like a little bit more grown up. I don't even
know if I think like that. It just kind of
happens like that. But yeah, even if we go out,
we always just bring it back to my house.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Your house is such a great party house.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Like yeah, just so much art everywhere. The outside isn't
like precious, it's like stone. So it's like you can
like have fun. Yeah, big yard. When my friends want
to bring their like dogs over, it's fun.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
So now we're going to talk about love.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Okay, we have more.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
So tell everyone listening about NAT's what you love about
him and what everyone should know about him and what
might surprise the most.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Okay, Well, Natsa is my husband. He is a designer artist.
He's like so dope. I think he's like one of
the swaggiest people that I know. He can like wake
up and just put on whatever, and I'm like, that
looks so good and I like got ready for an hour,
and like he looks like better and cooler than me.
He not so recently, but within the past few years
(39:22):
came out as trans. When I met him, we were
a lesbian couple and then he transitioned to become a man.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
So trans man.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
But he is like one of the sweetest, most genuine
like softest heart hearted people that I know, and he
wouldn't hurt a fly. He is just like so sweet
and I'm just obsessed with how authentic he is he
Like from day one, he was just like always himself,
and I think that's something that he loves about me too,
So I think we were both just like vibing off
(39:52):
each other. And he's like also one of the most
different people I've ever met, I think, to be that
authentic but also soft and you know, doesn't have a
mean bone in his whole body and like literally like
loves me for me and like never wants to hold
me back, never wants to like dim my shine. Whenever
I want to like do something crazy or do anything,
(40:12):
He's like so supportive unless it's like totally batshit, but
like usually I don't have those kind of ideas, but
he's so supportive. He just wants to see me happy.
And I feel like I always needed somebody like this,
and I never thought that I would find somebody like
so supportive, so happy for you. Yeah, go on Instagram
look him up.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, I love him. I love his clothing brand. And
I just was always so just sweet and just has
just this kind heart, just so genuine.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Everybody that like meets him first they're like, are my friend,
and then they like go onto being Natz's friend, Like
are They're like Oh my god, I'm so obsessed with Nats.
I'm like, I know my mom is obsessed. I obsessed obsessed.
I'm like, of course she would be.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Nats just has his pull towards some people. Yeah, your
mom being one of them, Yes, for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Which is cute too. Yeah, I love her too. Oh
she's the best. Yeah, an angel.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Where did you guys meet?
Speaker 1 (41:05):
We met?
Speaker 3 (41:06):
We met in La so he's lived here forever, and
then we went to Paris for a fashion show together
and we met basically there, like I'd never really spent
time with him or anything. So my brother in law,
August took us all to Paris for his fashion show
and we were there for ten days, and like Nats
and I were like inseparable for the ten days. It
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was like a fairy tale. We're like like driving around Paris,
going at like every restaurant. It was I think, I
think my first time in Paris, so you're a part
of our love story. And it was just very magical.
And in the moment, I wasn't thinking about it like that,
like I was just living. But you know, looking back,
once I got back to La, I was like, oh
my god, that was like really wild. And then when
(41:49):
we got back, we both couldn't stop texting each other.
I couldn't stop seeing him. We always were just hanging
out like every single day and night, and it was like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Are we falling in love? Are we already in love? Like?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
What are we doing here? And then we're just in
separable since in what year was that? That was seven years?
Going to be seven years ago? I know we're going
to be four years married in July flies.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I know.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
I'm like, I've been a married woman for four years. Crazy,
so crazy. Yeah, time flies. We just live though, you know,
that's why live. I feel like if you're like doing
the same thing every day, but time does not fly. Yeah, yeah,
so fucking bored.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
That's so true. Like time flies and you're having fun.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
M h and I have fun every single day, bitch.
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Who was the first one to say I love you?
Speaker 3 (42:52):
I forget? Is that bad? I think it might have
been him?
Speaker 4 (42:58):
Yeah, yeah, who kissed who? First?
Speaker 3 (43:03):
He kissed me at a club in Paris called Club Sandwich.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
I have been there, you've been there?
Speaker 2 (43:09):
No?
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Oh yeah, it's like more like ravy.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
We just like it's like in one of those like castles.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
And I don't know if I'd ever seen anything like that.
So I was like, this is the best club ever.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
And I remember we were like next to like Olivier Rustling,
the Bauman guy, and I just remember that and that
was like our surroundings. And then he kissed me and
then we left and there was some guy peeing in
the corner and we got into our sprinter and left.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Romantic.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Yeah, very romantic. Come on Paris night life.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
Love it.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah, it was cute. He planted it, he sealed the deal.
Maybe that's when I fell in love. I was like, whoa,
what is this? Sparks When when he kissed me, you
just know maybe I don't know. It was all kind
of like a whirlwind.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah, when you have like that kiss for it's like
the sparks, it's like such a different feeling, oh vibe, Yeah,
rather than like when there's no feeling, you're just like
I can't even date this person.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah, so many of those.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Yes, So when you got engaged, did you know or
was it a.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Surprise that actually was also in Paris, which is like,
I know, what the fuck is my life? Like, it's
like feels like such a fairy tale. I'm so lucky
to have him. He surprised me completely and like brought
like all of our friends out, and it was at
this huge castle in Paris, and I thought we were
just doing a tour.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Like I thought.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
It was like, I don't know, sometimes we do stuff
like that in Paris where it's like I don't necessarily
find it fun, but it's like just something to do
when you're there. So I thought we were just gonna
do a tour of the art and then have dinner
and then go out. And I was like, I can't
wait to just have dinner and go out, but we'll
do the tour. So this woman like was taking me
on this tour and then she was like, Gigi, will
you come over here? And I was like, why is
(44:57):
she singling me out? I was like, is she gonna
show me this art or something? And then she like
walks me up and then I see Nats like one
hundred yards down or like one hundred feet I don't
even know really far, and he's like standing there with
all these candles, and then I knew. I was like,
oh my god, I'm about to get fucking proposed to.
And I was so excited saw.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
The videos from that looked insane.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
It was so so insane, but so cold and windy.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
So I ran to him and he's like down there shivering,
and then he like asked me did like a little speech.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
I even forget what he said.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
It was like so surreal, and then we like ran
back and then there was like fireworks and I was
just like, oh my god, I'm engaged.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
And then I obviously call my dad, call my friends.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
Yes, yeah, but it like something out of the movie.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
It really was a fairy tale.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
Like literally, yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
He was smart for that one got me.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
Yes, I got the beautiful ring.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
Yes, both of us just married women.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Love it. What what was your favorite part about your wedding.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
My favorite part actually was like the most emotional part
because I wrote my vows like the I think of
the morning of because I just I just I don't know,
I just didn't and I wanted them to come naturally
to me, and I also kind of wanted just to
like do them by myself, so I like wrote them
out and I thought I was gonna be fine, Like
I was like, I'll just say these real quick up there.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
You know, meaningful quick, cute. But I was like crying
the whole time.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
I was like like from start to finish, I was
like literally crying saying them. And I just felt like
that was so like I would se people bawling when
they get married, and I'm like, oh my god, like
what about the makeup? Like what about Like I don't know,
but once you're in it, it is a very different thing.
And I just couldn't believe that I was that overtaken
with emotion. And I feel like it was just like
(46:50):
such a real and raw moment where it was like
I was just looking at him and even though there
were so many people there, it was like just him
and I and it was like super special. Another surreal moment,
I would.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Say for me, I didn't even write my vows until
I was like literally walking down the aisle basically.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Very you boll Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
And I didn't cry, which was hard, but Carter was
like bawling. But I was so scared to cry because
it was my eyelash. H.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
I know, I was like, what was I thinking, Wait,
what was your favorite part of your wedding?
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Walking down the aisle and the dress and just like
looking around and seeing everybody's just like faces like smiling
so big, and I just like such like a surreal moment.
It was like walking with my dad and like looking
around and.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Like, whoile, I'm getting married. He's crazy and he's up
there bawling his eyes out. Yeah, so cute, so sweet. Yeah, guys,
I feel like they say guys fall in love faster
than girls and quick, like like first, do you believe that?
Speaker 4 (47:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (47:52):
I do too, And like they're more emotional even though
it's like more like stereotypically like stoic men are, but
I feel like they're like softies, like all on the
right one. Yeah, Carter is definitely like that. Yeah, oh
my god, we both have a Carter in a nuts.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
And I love it.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
This was so much fun and I can't wait for
the next episode or we talk about to the present.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Yes, thank you for having me and see you guys
in a few days.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
Loves it. Thanks for listening to im Paris.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Don't forget to follow us on Instagram. If I am
Paris Podcast, email us at Paris at iHeartRadio dot com.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
Be hot and subscribe now. Loves it.
Wow, I ambarrassed.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey guys, it's Paris. I'm back with another episode of
I Am Paris. I am so excited about today's guest.
It is Pride month and we are celebrating today with
the Queen, my good friend Gigi gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hey, hey, hey, I love thanks for having me too.
You look gorgeous in your relow love.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Jealous of the whole thing from head to toe.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I love the camel.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
It's giving simple life it is. That's why I did it. Guys,
that's hot. Loves it well. Thank you for having men
is like so special and I feel like you are
such like a queer icon that I'm such an honor
to be here.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I'm so happy.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, last time we were at my other house, Club Paris,
when we were doing This is Paris my podcast before.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
So it's great to be back.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
It's kind of crazy to think how much are lives
have changed, because I remember I looked back on that
photo today and it was me, Nats and you in
Club Paris, which you have like renovated the whole other
life you had then and then renovated, and then now
you're here in this new house with like a full
on husband a little bebe how is nuts. He's good
(01:19):
speaking of just life changes and stuff. I feel like
he might have was he identifying as male, then I
don't think he was like everyone's just changing up on
us literally. I mean, if he was, he was very
newly into his transition. But he's good. He is killing
it with his fashion brand, Strike Oil, and we are just,
(01:41):
you know, just a gorge couple happy.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Both are always so proud of him.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And just like last time we were talking when we
were at my This is Paris movie premiere party at
my mom's house, and when he was just telling me
just that he went through certain things, and I don't know,
it was just nice to hear the people felt less
alone watching the film.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
He was somebody that opened up. I think in the
last podcast we talked about this, he opened up so
much to me after watching and I was like, I
didn't know a lot of what he went through, and
it's like you telling your story really just it just
goes to show like that we're talking about Pride Month,
like everybody being out in loud and proud of who
they are and their stories and stuff. You never know
(02:29):
who it's going to touch. And I certainly didn't think
that it would touch my husband, you know, let alone
anybody around me. But it makes sense because you guys
kind of were in the same area, and you know,
it's not that far off of the realm of like possibility.
So I don't know, well, I didn't really think that,
but you really helped him open up a lot, and
(02:51):
with so many other people obviously, and with everything that
you're doing now, it's life changing for so many people.
But you really helped my husband like open up about
who he was, even to me. And he's been so
open about it, like on social media, which isn't really
his shit, which I love, but he's not like obsessed
like I am. Like I could be the one that's obsessed,
(03:12):
not both of us. But he is just so much
more comfortable now sharing that because I think that you
made it a lot less awkward and scary.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
That's what makes it all worth it to me. If
going through all that and then being able to make
a difference for other people's lives and changing laws and
all these things.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I know that's what I was. I was like, oh
my god, is it bills or laws? I didn't know,
but I killing it with all that like, it's crazy.
Every single time I see your photos in DC, I'm like,
that bitch better work in her power suit. Thank you,
Like it looks literally like Barbie took DC.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's so good.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Thank you Elle Woods?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yes, oh yeah, what's with my references today?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Well, it's both like Barbie meets all Woods.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So now we're going to pull some icebreaker questions from
a little card deck.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yes, have them here. I hope these are controversial and wild.
I'm feeling it. Okay, So I'm gonna ask you three first,
what one accomplishment are you most proud of? That's hard
for you. I feel so many. I'm proud of my son.
M hmm, Phoenix, So I thought you were gonna say.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So proud of him. I'm proud of the person that
I am today and how strong I am and the
empire I've built, and how now I'm really turning my
pain into a purpose and being the hero that I
always needed when I was a little girl obsessed.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Good answer, Paris, Yeah, good answer. It said one accomplishment,
but she gave us seven. She's like, I can't just
stick to one. Okay, question number two, if you had to,
if you have to relive the same day for the
rest of your life. Which day would you choose? Like
Groundhog Day? That's hard.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I know that's so many. I wouldn't want to every day.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I know I'll get bored. I would get bored too,
But I'm like, sure, if I had to, I had to.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Like my wedding day, I was SA.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
One of my parties, I know, right, that's that's the
true answer.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
But the wedding, like getting married every single day would.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Be just so much.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
It's like a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Parties are just like more fun the young carnival every day. Yes,
so fun every day, but like no hangovers, like you
wake up.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Fresh, just like a new day every time. I like that.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Okay, work, that's the answer. What book has made the
biggest impact on your life?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
My book?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, there's the memoir. Hello, that book has changed my life.
Like the first step was my documentary and then now
my book. Just feel I know myself so much better
and people understand me more, and I just feel just
like so much weight off my shoulders. And just the
response to the book has been so incredible, like so
(06:12):
many people reaching out and saying how much it touched
them and just talking about things I never told anyone,
and getting out just so much. There's just so much
trauma that I've held in for so long, and I
just was like escaping by being this character, and then
I just forgot who I was before all the trauma
and abuse happened to me when I was a teenager
(06:33):
at those schools. So it's just been like this whole
like self discovery process.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
It was crazy to me because I was flipping through
it when I first got it, and like the little
crylic case that it came in so cute cut. I
pre ordered one and then that one is just going
to stay out like for display because it's so pretty
and I've never seen like that, and it's very like
holographic like those trays. Yes, And I was slipping through
it and I was like, I just wonder like if
(07:00):
I like know what's in here already or whatever. But
every single page that I went to it was literally
something I didn't know. So I feel like people need
to know that you really went off in the book.
You didn't hold back, No, I did an old buck. Yeah,
and that's very impressive, thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
In my turn hard em, you could pick up a
skill instantly, what would it be singing.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
You do sing I was in your music video.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, that was like more talking.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
It's cute.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Oh my god, this is so Do you like to party? Yeah, no,
I'm talking like I'm talking like Ariana Grande singing. I
think that would be so dope.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
You can do it, I mean right, yeah, why not?
You could do anything?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Hello, yes, opening your fucking vocal chords up and being
a songbird like ah, that would be great, just instantly.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
So I've been doing all week, just rehearsals and singing
while dancing. I'm like, it's so scary. I'm so like
freaking out.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Oh You're gonna kill it, are you.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I'm going to be there screaming my head off, extensions flying.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I'm so scared.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, that is nerve wracking, but I feel like you
kill it. I remember we did my birthday at your
place in New York and you were on the mic
and you were like, and here she is, and it
was like literally just like friends, like whatever, and you
gave it to me and I was like, I'm nervous.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You were like you love it and gave it to me.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I always think about that, and I feel like you
just need to hear that you love it, get into it.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yes, yeah, I'm just like I've never done it before,
like choreographed dance while singing live at a concert, Like
it's just a.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Lot, maybe hair up so less sweat.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I was thinking the hair up too, because the outfits
and like getting stuck in the fan. I was thinking,
like a hi ponytail with all the hair puld.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Back, all the hair puld by yut. Yeah, just give
face and like Paris sunglasses.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
That's what I've been doing rehearsals.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I've not taken this result stage.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Oh my god, that's so eciting. I'm excited for you.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I'm really excited. What are you gonaware.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Something so Paris people are going to think that I
am your backup dancer. Yes, like that like a crystallized
body suit or like the shortest mini dress of life.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Maybe even like some slive gloves in your ye yes
please yeah, I'm coming through.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I cannot wait thking all my looks out now.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I actually think this is so embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Talking about the concert, I was texting with Carter because
I was like, hey, I know, like the concert is tomorrow,
and I want to make sure that like I'm good
to go. I'm not going to be like waiting or whatever,
like I want to be able to see her. And
he was like, hey, so it's actually in one month.
I was like, wait, it's not May seventh, it's June seventh.
And he was like yeah. And I was like, I
(09:49):
am so just delete my number, like I'm so sorry,
ire so embarrassing. And then you came on and you
were like, oh, yeah, no, it's fine, prepared early.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah. I was like, oh my god, how like ready
am I.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I'm so glad that you didn't actually go there. It
would have been some like random person for.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Me, okay, like oh parents looks different.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Oh, I'm so excited. I can't wait to see everyone.
Just feel the energy in the room.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
It's gonna be me, Hagar, It's going to be That's
gonna be a day you want to live over. Yeah, hopefully.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Nerves.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I'm like, the nerves have been so bad and my
back has just been so messed up with all the
choreo everything I already have, Like my disc is like
shut so much sliving and jumping and DJing and like
jumping into with sticks and chields.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Mind over matter, The mind breaks before the body really
mm hmm okay, that's what my trainer tells me. At
least mind over matter. You're like, but it hurts, it hurts.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I'll try to ignore it. What's what else we got here?
What's one of your pet peeves? Mmmm?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I think my biggest pet peeve is I mean, I
have so many. I hate when people smell bad or
when they're annoying, like too much, too hungry yeah yeah, yeah,
like the hungry tiger thing that you say. Yeah, it's
like read the room. Yeah, I hate that. Yeah. I
(11:27):
also don't like liars. I feel like, if yeah, just
be honest, like even if it's embarrassing or whatever, like
just be honest, yeah, because like it's so much more
to keep up a lie or I don't know, like
in a friendship or whatever. Like I've had friends where
I'm like trying to ask them something and they like
like beat around the bush, and it's like, I don't know,
just be honest. It's like unless it's something like really crazy,
(11:48):
then you can lie. But like for little things, I
don't know, you know what I'm trying. Yeah, it's annoying.
It's like I can always tell, so it's just like,
don't lie to me. Yeah, I know, and like your
waste my time.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, especially if it's like someone that you are friends
with or trust. Yeah yeah yeah, unless it's a lie
to protect yourself. It's like okay, okay, okay, I'll give
you that one. Yeah, I just like, don't want to
hurt their feelings. That's like a nice thing.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, exactly. Other than that, the list could go on
and on. Honestly, with pet Peeves, yes, it really could.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You could go back in time. What one thing would
you tell your teenage self.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I would tell my teenage self to transition earlier. I
would be like, go out there, be more shameless, be crazier,
because you're going to meet people that will change your life,
don't hold And I was already crazy. I was already
so savage growing up. So I don't know how I
would be able to be more savage. But it took
me till I was nineteen to meet like another trans girl.
(12:58):
And I feel like if I could have done that sooner,
I could have been I could have been out. I
could have told my mom while she was still here
and with us. So like, there's just like a lot
of things could have changed. But I also don't really
regret anything because I feel like I was so strong
willed from such a young age.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
But I think it's like.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Good advice for everybody just to live more authentically and
I don't know, more more passionately, because I feel like
people just always are like worried about what everyone's going
to think about them, and it just takes people a
long time to come out of their shells and be
completely authentic. And we're both like a testament to that,
I feel, And yeah, I would just want to shake
my younger self and be like, listen, it's not that deep,
(13:37):
like you got this. But yeah, I don't really regret anything.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Also, now you can be an inspiration to others, exactly,
be the hero that you needed on your teen Yes, exactly.
So I'm so sorry about your mom, Like I can't.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I'm thinking you, like how difficult that was.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I mean it pushed me to being out and trans really,
I was just like I reached a point where I
got I don't know, there's like what seven stages of
grief or whatever, five six, seven.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And I didn't go to therapy after which my dad
tried to make me and my brothers go into but
I was just such like I was a rebel. I
was like I just wanted to be solow. So I
just got really angry at first. I was like, this
is so unfair that she was taken from us so early.
I'm hiding this inside. I'm taking hormones and I just
have had it so like fuck it, you know. And
(14:34):
I think that that was like my first stage of grief,
just anger, like why is this happening? And I've come
to find out that life doesn't happen to you, it
happens for you, which sounds very therapy, but I'm still
not in therapy. But it's like it really puts into
perspective for me, like every single day, like this is
happening for me, this is happening, It's not happening to me,
(14:56):
Like why is this happening to me? I'm not going
to be this victim of like I hate victims. Also,
that might be a pet peeve of mine too, like
oh my.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
God, poor me.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Like no, I never want anyone feeling bad for me.
It's just something that I will literally like carry to
the day I die. But I just got really angry
and I was like, you know, what. I'm just gonna
do this for me because I need to be happy.
And I think it was like anger and selfishness because
I had been holding back for so long.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I can't even imagine going through that like losing my mom.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You guys are so close. Yeah, I mean, it was
definitely the most traumatic. That's not a day I would
ever want to live through again. Ever. It was so
wild and surreal. But everyone deals with grief differently, and
I feel like you never know who you're going to
deal with it and unless you're in it. But obviously
your parents are like number one, and that's something that
I never thought that I would deal with, you know,
(15:48):
but look at me now. I would not be here,
you know. If that hadn't happened to me. I don't
know if I would have transitioned. I don't know if
I would have been as confident.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I don't know. Just life just happens for you.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Like I don't think that you're given something that you
can't handle kind of vibe, you know, and at the
moment it seems so crazy and savage and unfair, and
you can play the victim, but you can also choose
not to. And I was listening to a j Shaddy
podcast recently.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I was just house a few weeks ago doing the podcast.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Oh you were, I'm obsessed with it.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
And he was saying that basically along the same lines
of like, you know, everything people think that like, oh
my god, this is so dramatic. I can't get through this.
Like there's no way I'm going to be able to
get through this, whether it's like a breakup or a death,
or you're transitioning, or it's financial whatever. But he was
saying like, in a year's time, you're going to look
back and be like, oh my god, that time was
(16:47):
so hard.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Like it just is like for a chapter or like
a season in your life. So although grief is forever, obviously,
it's the instant pain of it that you have to
be like, Okay, this will just it will pass. And
I think perspective is just everything, like mind over matter,
because if you sit in it, you will get depressed
and nothing will change. And you just have to power on.
(17:11):
And I feel like you're such a good example of that.
You just kill it and keep it moving and always
stay positive and always look happy, you know, like never
let them see you crumble.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
It doesn't kill you. It makes you stronger for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yes, Kelly Clarkson, I love that song too iconic, but yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
That's so true.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Just especially I remember being a teenager and like having
a breakup or something like you think like your world
is over and you're just like, I will never love
anyone again. This is you think it's most painful thing,
and then you look back and you're like, oh my god,
I can't believe I even cared.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
It wasn't that bad. Yeah, you know, like we can
laugh at about so many things now. Yeah, I remember
my first breakup NAT's Close Your Ears. It was like
I felt like I was gonna die, Like my heart
was like hurting and breaking. And then I look back
now and it's like a joke, Like that was like
so dumb. So nothing's ever really that deep. Although I
(18:14):
don't want to compare grief to not being that deep,
because I think it's one of the most sad things
that you can go through in life. But yeah, just
perspective is everything. I think that's important to know, and
it's like it's survival mechanism to think that way. Also,
because you can get really fucking dark, really quick.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah. Yeah, it's so true of.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Very strong survivor instincts. M M.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
We do it without even noticing too, which is crazy.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yeah, just like looking back on things.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
M hm.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
So you grew up in Montreal, Canada.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yes, it was like, I don't know, a smaller town.
I always knew that. Well, my family grew up in Montreal,
and then we moved to Toronto, which is like a
little bit bigger.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I love a city, I do too.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I think it's come a long way, but back in
the day it was like not as diverse. It's very
diverse within like the cultures and like the races and everybody.
So like I grew up within a melting pot. So
I was never like judgmental, like, which was fabulous, you know,
But I just felt like I was a big fish
in a small pond. And I always knew that I
wanted to either like move to New York or to
(19:16):
la And I grew up like watching like the Hills
and like the simple life obviously, and I just always
knew like, yeah, I just wanted I wanted more. I
wanted less of a conservative vibe around me. And I
always like knew whenever I went like out to clubs,
or I met people like in high school that were
like a little bit different. I was like, this is
(19:37):
the vibe that I want to be surrounded by, like
different fun people, and a lot of that wasn't in Toronto.
Everyone's kind of the same, which is great for them.
I just didn't really fit in.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yes, do you miss it?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I love going home. I definitely don't miss living there,
But I love going home and seeing everybody and seeing
my family because I'm like the only one out here.
But now I have a chosen family in La, so
I don't miss it as much because I don't feel
as alone.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Yeah, La is more fun.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, I always knew.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I like it though there, but it's cute for like
like a week, not to like live. No, I would
never want to like settle down there. Although I feel
like my upbringing was really normal, which really helped with me.
I don't know, I feel like if I were I
can't picture myself growing up anywhere else, if that makes sense.
It was like normal suburbia and then I kind of
just like gravitated in towards the differentness.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yes, which I love.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
And how old were you when you moved?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
When I moved to La when I moved to La
I don't even remember. I think nineteen, I want to say,
or maybe eighteen. I was like, staying out here, you
just immediately fell in love. Yeah, I was coming out
here for work a little bit, and then I was like, Okay,
I haven't really experienced much yet. And then when I
started like traveling around like the city and meeting different friends,
(20:59):
some of which aren't my friends anymore obviously, why just
you like learn and grow, you know, different friends, right, Yeah, Yeah,
I look back and I look back at pictures and
I'm like, I used to spend every day with that person,
Like how crazy. But I feel like it's also such
a lesson too, because I feel like as a queer person,
(21:19):
like I was out as trans freshly, and I thought
that that core of friends was my chosen family. But
like people show their true colors, people like grow apart,
and that's fine. So it's like you can't be defined
to a friend group. And I I feel like you've
had so many friends of like come and gone for
like so many different reasons. But like being a queer person,
it's I think it's more intense because we have that
(21:41):
bond of being you know, some of us are some
of us are banished by our families, and you know,
we always felt kind of like freaks in a way.
Especially I know a lot of my trans girlfriends have
felt like that. And it's like you make yourself feel
like not a freak when you're around other trans girls.
It's like I'm not a freak anymore because like, look
at you, like we're both if we're if we're freaks,
(22:01):
we're both freaks together, which makes you feel like family exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
But yeah, La is everything. I'm obsessed. You can't picture
myself anywhere else.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
It's just.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
There's nowhere like in the planet.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
It's always great, like I love Europe and traveling, but
coming home, I'm just like ugh, like breathe.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, even when I go home to Toronto now, it
doesn't even really feel like home, Like I just feel
like I'm like visiting books.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Your family still there?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Are you and your dad clothes?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:34):
And he's always been supportive I've seen.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, he's an angel. He is an angel.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
People literally will like come up to him and like
in the mall and like ask him like for like
trans advice for like their kids, or like his coworkers.
He's retired, but his coworkers will like email him and
like ask for advice. And I'm like, Dad, you're like
a fairy godfather for the trans community. Like and he
was like, I did not know that this would happen.
But he's a good sport and he's just gives advice
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based off me his daughter.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
That's really lucky.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I know a lot of people like not a day
goes by where I don't realize how blessed I am.
I also made him come around because he was like
not really for it at first. He got a little scared,
but that's just all out of love. I see that.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Now.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
What did you say to him?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I basically just told him to get intowit or get lost.
That was my first reaction. I was like, I'm going
to do this. I'm going to get these surgeries. This
is going to be my new name. And it was
he was like whoa, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa,
Like your.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Mom just died.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
This is like so intense, And I'm like I've been
doing this, I've been thinking about this, and he was like, okay,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
And then before we knew it.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
We were traveling and making changes, and he was like, Okay,
well I'm going to come with you for every single
thing that you want to do. And I was like,
you don't have to, like, don't worry about it, like
it's really not that deep. And he was like no,
like you're you're my child. I want to be there
for you. And he came with me to get my boobs.
He came with me to get a few things I
did to my face, and I just I can't believe
(24:06):
that I put him through that so aggressively, because I
just it was the changes I need to make. But
I also wasn't being considered of him and his feelings.
I kind of was just like, you know, listen or not.
But that's the tourus in me, the tourist areas in me.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I burn. Yes, yeah, So.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Tell me more about your diving career. You were a
nationally ranked diver and even qualified for the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I was on my way to the Olympics as a diver.
I was I dove like from age eight to fifteen,
and I was like number one in Canada literally like
gold medal, and they like were wanting me to go
to the Olympics. They were going to give me like
money to go with them, and I just was like, no,
I don't want to do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Really, yes, So we were like about to literally go
the Olympics and You're just like no.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah, yeah, And my mom was like, okay, well if
you really like because I was like I really don't
want to, Like I just had like found these people
online that I like liked who are doing like makeup videos,
and I was like, I really I want to do that,
like that's like I want to, like I'm so creative.
And I was just like I'm not into sports anymore,
like I want to come out as like gay back then.
I was like I just don't want to do this anymore.
(25:15):
And my mom was like she was pissed because she
had driven me to like diving practice every single night,
six days a week for like eight years, and she's
like I thought, this is what we were working towards
the Olympics, like this is and we're getting money, like
this is good news.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
And I was like I don't really want to do
that anymore.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
So she's like, Okay, if you're serious about quitting, you're
going to go to the pool. We're going to drive
to practice tonight and you're going to tell your coach
that you're quitting, like somebody that you've worked with for
eight years. And I was like, oh my god, no,
can we just call him? And I was like can
you just text him? And she was like no, if
you're serious, you're going to be an adult about this.
So like I went down, had to like talk to him.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
It was so awful. She was crying, My mom was crying.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
He's like this, like really stoic, like Russian coach, like
super what you would think, and he was like really disappointed.
And then I just said by them all my teammates
and left and that was it.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
And that was it. I never went back.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Do you like to swim now?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Except like my hair now? Is it an issue? I
used to be like a water baby before though, now you're.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Like a mermaid hot photos not getting your hair like
I'll go into my ankles, just take my pick.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I just that time is like seems like a different
life to me. Honestly.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Are you friends with people from your old school?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
We'll like hit each other up on like Facebook sometimes,
but like I'm not even on Facebook, so like I'll
just go on and be like, oh my god, all
these messages, but it's like cute to like scroll through
their picks and see where they are.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Were people nice too, and you're in school or.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I felt like I had to honestly be be a
bully or be bullied because a lot of the time
people would just like pick on me because I was
like obviously different. I was just always myself, like I
didn't know how to be anything but myself. So I
would just talk how I wanted, and I'm like the
school yard. I remember so many people would just be
(27:08):
like talking about me or like staring at me and
just being like assholes. And I was like, Okay, well
I'm not going to let people treat me like this,
but I'm not going to get physical, so I'm going
to fight back. And that was like one of my
defense mechanisms back in the day. It was to really
defend myself, and if I saw any bit of meanness,
I would just come for the people and or ignore it,
(27:31):
but like scream at them, not really scream at them,
kind of just like make fun of them back and
like build a group of friends that like would that
would do the same, and then before you knew it,
I wasn't getting bullied anymore. It's not advice I would give,
but that's like my survival technique.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, kids could be so mean. Yeah, were you ever bullied? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Kids would just make fun of me for silly things
like oh your name is Paris. Oh I feel like, yeah,
it's everything, Like you're like like London Hyatt, like just
say all these things that were like not mean, but
or like, oh, your lips are so big.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
It's like things like.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
That, Yeah, how I love them? Yeah, like I'm obsessed. Yeah,
I think you're obsessed. How are your lips? Nowadays, it's
just so much easier to be nicer. I feel like
if you're like, I don't know, feeling a vibe towards somebody,
it's like takes so much to like say something out
(28:34):
loud that's negative, you know, Like that's why I like
hate comments and stuff. I just never really I don't
get them, Like I was never somebody to go on
somebody's page and write something negative about them, Like that's
just not not what I would ever do. It's like
I'll just keep it moving.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
It's like I feel bad for people who have that
much time on their hands.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, I just don't get it, Like, are you that
much of a loser?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah, some people literally just make all these fake account yeah,
and just do that all day long.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
To people, it's like it's awful. Get a life, Get
a life, Get a grip. So let's talk about YouTube.
When did you discover your passion for makeup. I've probably
discovered in like two thousand and eight, I would say,
(29:25):
which is when I created my channel, or two thousand
and nine. And I was just so inspired by like
a few people on MySpace. Do you remember like Forbidden
on MySpace. Yeah, she was like a makeup artist, like
super dope, dope. I think her name was like Christina something.
She was very like La tatted, but like I'm sure
you knew her probably yeah, I think she actually is
(29:46):
like passed on now.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
She did.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
And I would just like go to the mall like
steal eyeliner and like you know, just like I don't know,
experiment in my room. And then I saw people recording
themselves online and I was like I want to do that.
So I just grabbed my digital camera that I had,
which is like four megapixels, like horrible, and I just
started recording and then uploading, and then people would like
(30:09):
write back and I'd be like, oh my god, you're
from Australia, like I'm connecting with you, what the fuck?
And then I would just keep making videos and then
I was addicted. I have like an addictive personality, and
I was like, I want to do my makeup every
day and I want to like do a different color
every day, and you did pretty much yeah, And I
would just like experiment in my room at night and
just be a loner.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
But I was having fun.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
So then you just started doing makeup and then you're like,
I just want to build a brand out of this.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I always knew, like I started out with like the
last name gorgeous, and it wasn't even about like being beautiful,
because obviously we all want to be like beautiful and
gorgeous and feminine and pretty well people who want to
identify like that obviously, but I always did and I
just felt like it wasn't even about that. It was
about being authentic and being like gorgeous, Like I don't know,
just the word always resonated with me. I was like,
(30:59):
this is like a word that I want a brand,
and I really want like this to just be me
and it just makes me feel so good inside and
it just it still does. So soon after that, I
was like, yeah, this is like what I want to do,
and I'm so happy that I left diving, and like
I trusted my instincts and it would have been easy
to go that route to go to the Olympics, but
(31:20):
I just knew it was the harder decision needed to
be made, and I just was like, I got to
do this for me, and I was I'm so happy
that I did. Who knows where I would be at
be a washed up Olympian. Well, I feel like divers
they don't make it past like twenty five. It's like
a pretty young sport. So like I don't know what
(31:40):
I would I be coaching diving, Like, oh no, I
had enough years of smelling like chlorine.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
No, it's time to be gorgeous and fabulous.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yes, I think it was just like everything happens for
a reason, and trust your instincts, even even if it's
the harder thing to do.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
And how many videos do you think that you've made?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
I don't even know, probably like over like five hundred,
I would say, And like not all beauty and fashion too,
Like I share my life so much, and it's like
a lot of them are about like my relationship or
like my sexual orientation and like my journey with having
a baby, and like just all the most gnarly things
that you could ever imagine live on my YouTube channel.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
So it's like your therapist, because you don't see a therapist.
So what's kind of like that is?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Yeah, I think talking to a camera alone in a room.
Don't get me wrong, it feels natural to me, but
I think it's a really weird thing to do, you know,
Like a lot of people think it's so weird. And
I remember in school back in the day, in high school,
I was like the only person really doing it, where
I'm sure now in high schools there's so many people
doing it, you know. Like I've seen like in like Target,
(32:46):
like a influencer gift like or kid sets like as
in the toy section, and I'm like, oh my god,
that was like not a thing when I was growing up,
so insane. But yeah, I feel like people would just
think I was so weird back in the day for that.
Now it's like, look, bitch, yeah exactly, I was doing
what everyone's doing now.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
It's weirdos ahead of our time, both of us.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yes, og influencer.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Hmmm. So what was it like to become more and
more famous and recognize as your audience grew.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
It's nice having people like relate with me, and I
just I just felt like I had like an army
of people that just were like my safety blanket, and like,
I don't know, whenever I got like a nice comment,
I was like, it just made me feel more confident.
Like I was like, I'm affecting them in a good way,
and I'm like, I'm very proud that I'm, you know,
making a positive influence on this world, even if it
(33:42):
was just like you look beautiful or like I'm going
to try this, make about or whatever. Inspiring people, Yeah,
inspiring them in any way. That's definitely just made me
feel good and loved and like, who doesn't want to
feel like that?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
True. Do you remember the first time that someone asked
for your autograph for a photo?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I do.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I was I just had started making videos and like
putting myself out there, and I was working at a
clothing store in the mall and it was called Blue Notes.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I don't know if it's like a round anymore.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
But I was folding up like this gene wall, like
it was like a huge wall of jeens, kind of
like an abercrom and Fitch. And I was like, but like,
way more jeans cause it was like a cheaper store.
I don't know why that makes sense, but it was
like thousands of jeens. So I'm like working getting into it,
and then I'm like putting them back and then this
girl comes up behind me and she says my name
and she's like, oh my god, like what are you
(34:34):
doing here? And I was like, oh, I work here,
and she's like, oh my god. I didn't know that
you like had a real job. I thought you like
made videos online and I was like, no, I do both,
Like I just like, you know, I have fun with
those videos. And she was like can I have a
photo and then took a photo left, and then my
manager was like what the fuck was that about? And
I was like, oh, I kind of do these videos
on the side. And then soon after that I quit. Yes,
(34:54):
like this cannot be happening to me.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
It's so cute.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, I got embarrassed by it, but it was sweet.
Looking back.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
The La No in Toronto, this is like right after
when you're nineteen, when I was probably sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Oh wow, yeah, so you've been doing this a while.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
What do you remember the first time we met?
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Oh, first time we met? We met? Do you remember?
Speaker 4 (35:22):
There's been so many times. I'm not sure which one
is the first.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I just remember because there's a photo. It just like
went back in my head.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
I'm imagining the photo now too. Where were we.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
It was like summer.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
It was with Alison Melnick and we were at I
think this is the first time at least, don't quote me,
but we were at the Standard pool. Is it called
the Standard the one with the blue rug?
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Yeah, like the seventies.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yes, Yeah, we were there, and I was there with
Alison Melnick and we were like in a room whatever,
and then we went down to the pool and I
was like, oh my god, is that Paris. And then
she's like, yeah, come over. So we all took a photo.
But I don't know if we like talk talked, but
it was like just one of those moments where I'm like,
oh my god, Paris. And I had been friends with
Alison for a while and I saw her like on
your show.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
So yeah, that was it was cool. When was that,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
I think honestly, I was probably like eighteen or maybe
like nineteen because I'm imagining the photo and I still
had that like horrible haircut I had, and I think
that was the past, like nineteen. Yes, yeah, I think
that was the first time.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
And then what other memories do you have with me?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I mean, I remember in Vegas one time when I
think you were djaying yes and you had on gold
We all met out.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Kathy was there too. We all met out, and you
were wearing this like.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Gold choker and I like took it off of you
and I like like pretended to throw it into the crowd.
You like turned around. You were like Gigi stop, and
I was like, kidding, gotcha. But I was just like,
oh my god, I can't believe I did that. This
can't be trusted when I drink sometimes.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
That was it like the MGM or something? Yeah, in Vegas, Yeah,
at the really crazy club.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah. We didn't stay for long.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
During like the Beauty like honors one of those.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, I forget why we were there.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
It's like some event for beauty.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yeah, beauty, not a brand, just beauty.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah. And then when we used to go out and
LA was fun.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
So many house parties. It's just so many memories.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Life is so different now, I know, right, do you
go out anymore? Like took clubs? Or is everything?
Speaker 3 (37:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I do?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Oh you do?
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Like what is actually good anymore?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I mean I'm kind of like just wherever the wind
takes me kind of vibe. But yeah, I'm trying to
get it all out of my system because I know
life's going to change when I have a kid, which
I don't even know when that's gonna be. But you know,
now I'm thirty one and I'm like, Okay, I'm married,
but I still want to slive.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, so I'm not going to stop sliving.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
You have a lot of time to live.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah that's what I think too. Yeah, yeah, so I
still love raging. But you know what, it's actually I
have a lot more parties at my house because I
just feel like it's like safer, it's more fun, it's
like a little bit more grown up. I don't even
know if I think like that. It just kind of
happens like that. But yeah, even if we go out,
we always just bring it back to my house.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Your house is such a great party house.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Like yeah, just so much art everywhere. The outside isn't
like precious, it's like stone. So it's like you can
like have fun. Yeah, big yard. When my friends want
to bring their like dogs over, it's fun.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
So now we're going to talk about love.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Okay, we have more.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
So tell everyone listening about NAT's what you love about
him and what everyone should know about him and what
might surprise the most.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Okay, Well, Natsa is my husband. He is a designer artist.
He's like so dope. I think he's like one of
the swaggiest people that I know. He can like wake
up and just put on whatever, and I'm like, that
looks so good and I like got ready for an hour,
and like he looks like better and cooler than me.
He not so recently, but within the past few years
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came out as trans. When I met him, we were
a lesbian couple and then he transitioned to become a man.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
So trans man.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
But he is like one of the sweetest, most genuine
like softest heart hearted people that I know, and he
wouldn't hurt a fly. He is just like so sweet
and I'm just obsessed with how authentic he is he
Like from day one, he was just like always himself,
and I think that's something that he loves about me too,
So I think we were both just like vibing off
(39:52):
each other. And he's like also one of the most
different people I've ever met, I think, to be that
authentic but also soft and you know, doesn't have a
mean bone in his whole body and like literally like
loves me for me and like never wants to hold
me back, never wants to like dim my shine. Whenever
I want to like do something crazy or do anything,
(40:12):
He's like so supportive unless it's like totally batshit, but
like usually I don't have those kind of ideas, but
he's so supportive. He just wants to see me happy.
And I feel like I always needed somebody like this,
and I never thought that I would find somebody like
so supportive, so happy for you. Yeah, go on Instagram
look him up.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, I love him. I love his clothing brand. And
I just was always so just sweet and just has
just this kind heart, just so genuine.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Everybody that like meets him first they're like, are my friend,
and then they like go onto being Natz's friend, Like
are They're like Oh my god, I'm so obsessed with Nats.
I'm like, I know my mom is obsessed. I obsessed obsessed.
I'm like, of course she would be.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Nats just has his pull towards some people. Yeah, your
mom being one of them, Yes, for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Which is cute too. Yeah, I love her too. Oh
she's the best. Yeah, an angel.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Where did you guys meet?
Speaker 1 (41:05):
We met?
Speaker 3 (41:06):
We met in La so he's lived here forever, and
then we went to Paris for a fashion show together
and we met basically there, like I'd never really spent
time with him or anything. So my brother in law,
August took us all to Paris for his fashion show
and we were there for ten days, and like Nats
and I were like inseparable for the ten days. It
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was like a fairy tale. We're like like driving around Paris,
going at like every restaurant. It was I think, I
think my first time in Paris, so you're a part
of our love story. And it was just very magical.
And in the moment, I wasn't thinking about it like that,
like I was just living. But you know, looking back,
once I got back to La, I was like, oh
my god, that was like really wild. And then when
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we got back, we both couldn't stop texting each other.
I couldn't stop seeing him. We always were just hanging
out like every single day and night, and it was like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Are we falling in love? Are we already in love? Like?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
What are we doing here? And then we're just in
separable since in what year was that? That was seven years?
Going to be seven years ago? I know we're going
to be four years married in July flies.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I know.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
I'm like, I've been a married woman for four years. Crazy,
so crazy. Yeah, time flies. We just live though, you know,
that's why live. I feel like if you're like doing
the same thing every day, but time does not fly. Yeah, yeah,
so fucking bored.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
That's so true. Like time flies and you're having fun.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
M h and I have fun every single day, bitch.
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Who was the first one to say I love you?
Speaker 3 (42:52):
I forget? Is that bad? I think it might have
been him?
Speaker 4 (42:58):
Yeah, yeah, who kissed who? First?
Speaker 3 (43:03):
He kissed me at a club in Paris called Club Sandwich.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
I have been there, you've been there?
Speaker 2 (43:09):
No?
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Oh yeah, it's like more like ravy.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
We just like it's like in one of those like castles.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
And I don't know if I'd ever seen anything like that.
So I was like, this is the best club ever.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
And I remember we were like next to like Olivier Rustling,
the Bauman guy, and I just remember that and that
was like our surroundings. And then he kissed me and
then we left and there was some guy peeing in
the corner and we got into our sprinter and left.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Romantic.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Yeah, very romantic. Come on Paris night life.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
Love it.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah, it was cute. He planted it, he sealed the deal.
Maybe that's when I fell in love. I was like, whoa,
what is this? Sparks When when he kissed me, you
just know maybe I don't know. It was all kind
of like a whirlwind.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah, when you have like that kiss for it's like
the sparks, it's like such a different feeling, oh vibe, Yeah,
rather than like when there's no feeling, you're just like
I can't even date this person.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah, so many of those.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Yes, So when you got engaged, did you know or
was it a.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Surprise that actually was also in Paris, which is like,
I know, what the fuck is my life? Like, it's
like feels like such a fairy tale. I'm so lucky
to have him. He surprised me completely and like brought
like all of our friends out, and it was at
this huge castle in Paris, and I thought we were
just doing a tour.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Like I thought.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
It was like, I don't know, sometimes we do stuff
like that in Paris where it's like I don't necessarily
find it fun, but it's like just something to do
when you're there. So I thought we were just gonna
do a tour of the art and then have dinner
and then go out. And I was like, I can't
wait to just have dinner and go out, but we'll
do the tour. So this woman like was taking me
on this tour and then she was like, Gigi, will
you come over here? And I was like, why is
(44:57):
she singling me out? I was like, is she gonna
show me this art or something? And then she like
walks me up and then I see Nats like one
hundred yards down or like one hundred feet I don't
even know really far, and he's like standing there with
all these candles, and then I knew. I was like,
oh my god, I'm about to get fucking proposed to.
And I was so excited saw.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
The videos from that looked insane.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
It was so so insane, but so cold and windy.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
So I ran to him and he's like down there shivering,
and then he like asked me did like a little speech.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
I even forget what he said.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
It was like so surreal, and then we like ran
back and then there was like fireworks and I was
just like, oh my god, I'm engaged.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
And then I obviously call my dad, call my friends.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
Yes, yeah, but it like something out of the movie.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
It really was a fairy tale.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
Like literally, yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
He was smart for that one got me.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
Yes, I got the beautiful ring.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
Yes, both of us just married women.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Love it. What what was your favorite part about your wedding.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
My favorite part actually was like the most emotional part
because I wrote my vows like the I think of
the morning of because I just I just I don't know,
I just didn't and I wanted them to come naturally
to me, and I also kind of wanted just to
like do them by myself, so I like wrote them
out and I thought I was gonna be fine, Like
I was like, I'll just say these real quick up there.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
You know, meaningful quick, cute. But I was like crying
the whole time.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
I was like like from start to finish, I was
like literally crying saying them. And I just felt like
that was so like I would se people bawling when
they get married, and I'm like, oh my god, like
what about the makeup? Like what about Like I don't know,
but once you're in it, it is a very different thing.
And I just couldn't believe that I was that overtaken
with emotion. And I feel like it was just like
(46:50):
such a real and raw moment where it was like
I was just looking at him and even though there
were so many people there, it was like just him
and I and it was like super special. Another surreal moment,
I would.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Say for me, I didn't even write my vows until
I was like literally walking down the aisle basically.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Very you boll Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
And I didn't cry, which was hard, but Carter was
like bawling. But I was so scared to cry because
it was my eyelash. H.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
I know, I was like, what was I thinking, Wait,
what was your favorite part of your wedding?
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Walking down the aisle and the dress and just like
looking around and seeing everybody's just like faces like smiling
so big, and I just like such like a surreal moment.
It was like walking with my dad and like looking
around and.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Like, whoile, I'm getting married. He's crazy and he's up
there bawling his eyes out. Yeah, so cute, so sweet. Yeah, guys,
I feel like they say guys fall in love faster
than girls and quick, like like first, do you believe that?
Speaker 4 (47:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (47:52):
I do too, And like they're more emotional even though
it's like more like stereotypically like stoic men are, but
I feel like they're like softies, like all on the
right one. Yeah, Carter is definitely like that. Yeah, oh
my god, we both have a Carter in a nuts.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
And I love it.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
This was so much fun and I can't wait for
the next episode or we talk about to the present.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Yes, thank you for having me and see you guys
in a few days.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
Loves it. Thanks for listening to im Paris.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Don't forget to follow us on Instagram. If I am
Paris Podcast, email us at Paris at iHeartRadio dot com.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
Be hot and subscribe now. Loves it.
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