Welcome to the Twenty First episode of Rapaport's Reality! Starring Kebe & Michael Rapaport. This is the reality television podcast that the whole reality world has been waiting for. Live From The Bedroom! The Rapaport's are here to discuss: RHONJ Finale living rent free in their brains & the show must go on, shocking moments, being fully invested in Love Island, BTS of Reality Television, The Sopranoseque feeling & a whole lotta mo'! This episode is not to be missed!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Doris won the season. Daniel emerge as a star. She's
a star on her social media. She's got the charisma,
she's comfortable in front of.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Her car family.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
She's funny, she's self efface and she's tough, but she's
also sensitive, vulnerable. Nate's great, her kids are great. Bugie
Kids is a great thriving young kids, a brand of clothing.
We love Danielle.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I want to see that family win.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I wish you'd have Danielle on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
She'd be great.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, she's good.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, she's great.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
So I like that scene, and I want to see
that family win, and I hope she has a relationship
with her dad. I like everything about what's happening there.
I love the food as too. I just everything about
the episode is great. You know, I'm just so bummed
about the Gorgas and Teresa. These guys are really they
bring me down and I can't believe. And I know
it's never gonna go anywhere, and I know they're probably I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Never gonna talk again.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
It's just it's like there's just bother some.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Boom Hotua, Yes, hawk Tua, Welcome to Rapaport's Reality.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
My name is Michael Rapaport. My name is Keevie Rappaport,
and this is Rapaport's reality podcast, The podcast where we
discuss all things reality TV, all things popular culture, and
a little bit about the comings and goings, the exciting
(01:37):
finer points of our relationship.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
A little reality about the Rapports.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Chomping at the bit, my goodness, chomping at the bit
to see it. We saw it, and we are still
reeling from the Real Housewives of New Jersey season finale.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That is living rent free in our brains.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
It's living rent free in our brains. And I'm sure
it's living rent free. And everybody listening in your brains,
in your your DNA, in your cells, I know it's
living rent free. In the fans on social media, there's
so much to discuss about that. There's so much to
discuss about reality TV. There's so much to discuss about.
Our big date night, afternoon date. That was nice, that
(02:30):
was good. We had an afternoon lunch today out in
the wild.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Wow, we've had a good week when you think about it. Yeah, yeah,
dates in a week.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, early lunch, early date. But let's just.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Let's just talk about it. Let's get it, Let's talk
about it, because.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
This is what we've been waiting for. And there's good
news for me about it, because you know, I was
the one that was like, it's over, this is gonna
I don't see this going on. And after the finale, Babe,
I have a different opinion. I think the show must
go on.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I agree. I'm glad you're you're saying that because I
always agree. I always lean as an optimistic person when
it comes to my reality TV.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
The show has to go on. After that, let's just
take it from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I mean, let me just say this. We I say
weak because I kept saying I'm nervous and you kept
saying I'm nervous too, Babe. All day leading up to
the finale, we were anticipating. We're exciting, Like literally, at
like five p fifteen, we're like, we have two hours
and forty five minutes before the show starts.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
You wanted to watch something else before, and it just
like I had.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
To get my brain because I now I want to
sit and stare at the clock.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So we watched Love Island before a couple episodes just
to like a massage our brain.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Which I will say has crept up on us. We
get it now. We get it.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
We're fully invested.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
We're fully invested in Love Island. We're a week or
two behind, yeah, we know that, but we get it. Yeah.
And I appreciate a lot of things about Love Island.
But the thing I appreciate the most is that there's
seventy nine episodes this season. Yeah. I don't know how
they keep going. I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
We have to hurry up because there's a reunion coming.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Oh, they haven't already had the reunion.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I don't think so. Or maybe they have.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
It doesn't matter, but we're not in it, dude. So
I'm looking forward to getting there because we're.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Down with Love Island. I don't know how they shoot
the show. I don't know how they diversified Ariana's time.
Sometimes I feel like she should be there, and sometimes
she just pops up. I don't know how many trips
she made over to Thailand.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Or to Hiti Tahiti, Fiji. I don't know where they are.
I don't know where it is. It doesn't it's all the.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Same, but it looks now down with Love Island. But
realize size in New Jersey Grand Finale evening it came
it saw it lived up to expectations.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Sand snacks. We didn't even have snacks.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I thought we did have jelly beans. We had jelly beans, Babe,
we did not. We had jelly beans.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
We did not.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
We did it. We have the the bag of jelly beans.
There was jelly beans before.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
We ate the jelly beans the night before we're in
the apartment. We had it. The day before, no.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Baby, we had jelly beans. The other had two tubes.
That was the day before.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
No Babe, we ate go here Saturday, I know, but
we ate know we had it. Sands.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
We should have sayd because I remember I said I
wish I had the jelly beans tonight.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Okay, well we didn't eat snacks.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You didn't need it for this, You didn't need snacks.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Let's just let's just start with the first. The first
seeing where things went totally awry is when Margaret jen
Fessler came over to Margaret's house and they were waiting
for Dolores and they were chit chatting about what was
going to be the big sit down. There's always a
big sit down when it comes to Italians. There's always
a sit down. That was the first thing where we
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were like, oh shit. And I think it was the first.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
First scene that I was like, oh, Ship was when
she sent the arrangement, what do you mean to Teresa's house?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
That was from last episode? Oh, that was from the
episode before when Margaret sent you a.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Right, that's right, because which when she was having her
she tells she tells her what shengement.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
She tells Fessler what she did in Festal was like, no,
you did it right.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
But we we were watching that scene and you know,
they're chit chatting about the thing, and then Dolores shows up.
It seemed like Dolores was kind of on the fence
when she called.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
When she called, she says, I'm coming, I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Coming, but I thought about it. I'm gonna come, right,
she said, I'm gonna come.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I'm gonna come.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
But when Margaret told her remember last season when it
happened and at the rewatch party and dolor and I
invited you, and Dolores went fucking ape Ship.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
She went ape.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Dolores went totally crazy and she called her a lying
seaword And Margarete said, you did you just call me
a lying seaword? And she goes, yeah, I did call you.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Your own house, sitting on her couch.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I mean, whoa right, I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Gotta be real piss to call somebody a lying seaward
in their house.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
All on their serving, you.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Putting their own pudding. I think it was like magnolia.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I think it was no, no, no, it was a
frosantic no.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
No, she put she digged in the thing that was
the pudding. She had the pudding.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
They were having cronut cronuts.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Croissans donuts, nuts nuts cut.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
A crow nut donut.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Right, which we've learned that I never they look disgusting.
I'm sure they taste great.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, but it was a pudding she was eating. She
scooped into that pudding in Dolorous.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Let me tell you something as a guy, when Dolores
gets angry, like she scares me, like she's like, maybe
it's because I know she was a corrections officer. She
doesn't talk about it a lot. But just to clarify again,
and I'm not the I'm like breaking news. Dolores was
a corrections officer in a man She doesn't talk about
it a lot prison. I don't think she likes people
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to know that. No, she talks about it she does. Yeah,
I mean it's not like she goes on and on
and on about it. It's not like I'm breaking some
sort of secret. And when she gets pissed off the
way she got pissed off with the two veins.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Popping in her forest, I haven't seen that a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Not that pissed.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
She's been pissed this season.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
She got pissed last season at the party at well
somebody's house.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Jaden Jen Ayden, and she got pissed at the Joe
Gorga when they were talking about they had that party,
and she got pissed and she left the party.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I don't know, right. And she also got pissed with
Jen Aayden at the reunion. Yeah, And I was like,
she's gonna head butt something.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Not often that she gets that. This is probably the
worst I've seen her.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
She hasn't. She got mad. She went from zero to
sixty real quick, like are lying, Yeah, Yeah, it was.
It was intense. I was not mad at it at all.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And Margaret was like totally straight faced. And we love Margaret.
I know you don't love her as much as I
do as a character on the show. No, but I
gotta tell you like I'm like, I would be like Frozer.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's hard.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
It's not that I don't love Margaret, but in any scene,
it's like with Dolores or Teresa, like they just take president.
Like I was on team Dolores because I know what.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Delors was saying, like this was a takedown.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
You invited everybody over to decide something before Bravo Khan
and Delores was like, she's Switzerland.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
She keeps the peace.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
That's what she does, that's what she's good at, that's
who she is authentically as a person. And she's saying
to her, don't say that shit on TV. Don't say
like you had me over to do something that I
didn't do.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
She was clearly caught off guard by her saying that
Doris was pissed. Yeah, like don't that's not true, and
don't say that.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
You're because what you're calling it now is different than
what you were calling it then. Even if you did
invite me over, that's such who you would call me
to if you're calling me over to a barbecue, and
what it really was was a takedown. Don't say that
shit now, do you know what I'm saying? So that's
what she was mad at But anyway, it wasn't less.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I got her baby gave a shout out again once
again to jenfestor because Jenfest he is like, like a baby?
What is it a deer?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Adult deer in headlights?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
What is a dough dough?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Do I? What are you saying?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Baby? Like a baby deer? What call like a dough?
Is that door dove?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Bambi?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
No, but they don't call a baby baby deer? Don't
they call it dough? Okay, just seems like I don't
like anybody freaking out.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
She doesn't like confrontation, that's clear, clearly and with any sort,
and I think everybody's a little bit leery of do
what I would like.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
To say to her. She's a lovely lady. We met her.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Reality TV of the nature of Housewives is not for you,
but for.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Her because you need that. But if you.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Don't like confrontation, I mean, she doesn't like it of
any kind. She I mean, and even scenes where there's
just a conversation where somebody is like, I don't fuck
with that bitch because she said da da da, She's like,
say that right.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
She doesn't like it.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
But I think we need that in Jersey. I think
we need you. You can't have all lunatic No, I
get it. I got a piano, like you can't.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Delores.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Is that Dolores is like, come on now, don't doors
in the middle.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
And then you got some might be on me. It's like,
what is happening? I love it.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I appreciate it so much. But she was sitting on
that couch like she calmed it down. I loved how
I love how quickly it came to love, Like she
was like all right, and you saw Dolores immediately go
like all right, all right, done, it's over.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I gets the difference between women and men because that
kind of volume and tenacity fighting that's fighting, or get
the fuck out of my house, or you know that's
fighting energy. That's like grappling, punch in the face. I
related to that. I related. I mean not the S word.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I mean if me and Tammy have gotten to like fights,
like she's like grit at her teens and she's okay,
go upstairs right now. She has gotten mad at me
like that, and I have like been like okay, or
like or I've laughed or I've gotten uncomfortable because she's
really pissed off at me. But and then we've come
really quickly. We're like, sister, I get that anger, Like
I get how mad she will. I don't know how
close they really truly are, but I get getting that
(12:21):
mad at someone also in menopause, perimenopause, this kind of
area in life.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But and I love how quickly she was like, Okay,
all right, I'm good, I'm done, I'm over.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I don't know how hot it was outside, she looked
like she had a valorousa yes, I'm hot out. You know.
I'm trying to give her all the benefit of like
what's going on in her life to get that she was.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
She was pissed.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
She was pissed at the subject because she was outing her,
and she's trying to, you know, keep the peace with
Teresa and everybody else.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
The other time Dolores got really really angry this year
was at Jackie Goldschneider. We talked about it at length
his podcast. When she found out that Jackie Goldschneider referred
to her as a slob on text message. There.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
That is a whole different thing right there. She got
knocked out for that. That was wrong, wrong, wrong, you know,
how I feel about that, and.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
We have to just give it up to Dolores because.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Babe, I'm not to interrupt you, babe, but listen, this
Jackie character is getting away with murder.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
She's done.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
She has gotten away with the most incredible things here.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
She made it through calling Dolors a slob. This is crazy,
but we'll get to Obviously, everybody knows what happens later
in the episode. And I know everybody listening to this,
and there's lesions of you. Everybody listens this.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I know you.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You watched it, you dissected it, you discussed it. I
want to give a shout out to the people that
DMed me that also felt no disrespect to the great
fun inform Danny Pellegrino. But a couple of people were like,
I wish it was you sitting there.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I wish you were with her on that.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I don't watch what happened. I know live you.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Could have warned one of your new outfits to your
son and booted. That would have been great.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I would have been suited in body. But Danny Pellegrino,
he was great. I watched watch what happens, Like, listen,
I can't be on every episode I know, and the
last time I was on with Dolores, I can't be
there all the time, but I was jealous, and there
were a few people like, I wish it was you,
and I wish it was me too. I did, I did.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I'm me too. I was thinking that too.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I didn't want to say anything when we were watching
because I didn't want you.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
To get upset, but I was thinking that.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
We were both sitting there thinking that.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But he was good. I even said he was great.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
And I love to watch when people actually watch the show,
because I can't stand when people are fake fans and
they're on there and they're faking their way through. It
really drives me nuts, especially when it comes to a
big deal.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I have somebody who they got to have somebody watch
if somebody like, you know, the David Rquette episode, who
seemed like he knew and then he did know anything
about it? Who again called Margaret Joseph's Claudia. He didn't
call her Mary, Yeah, call Michelle. Yeah. That was like
it's one thing that like mistake, like you go Mark, Michael, Oh, yeah,
I mean Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, Claudia is a whole other They were not Margaret Michelle,
we're in the beginning of the album, Claudia.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It just doesn't I don't see how he got from
one thing to another. That being said, and then we
went to the other shocking moment. The next shocking moment
of Real House Size of New Jersey finale was when
Louis and this is again people are going crazy about this,
said that he wishes Margaret's family. When he said, and
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I quote or paraphrase, I wish and hope Margaret suffers.
I hope her son suffers. I hope her family suffers
like my our family has suffered. This is inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, that wasn't That wasn't good.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
But let's and Louise defense because I'm care to Louis.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
And Louis defense was he did put out an apology.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
He did he did know that yes, today, this afternoon
or this morning, Yes, this morning.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
He must have known this podcast was coming. What what?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
What?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
What did he say?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
He he said that he in the heat of everything
going on and everything that the family has been through,
he shouldn't have said that.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
He shouldn't have said that he hopes.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yeah, he shouldn't have said something like that. That people's
children are off limits. That he should not have said
that Margaret's family should be suffering.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
He should have said that.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Did he say he wishes that Margaret? Did he apologize for.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Saying he apologized for saying all of it that he
should Yes, I get it.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, but you know, in the.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Heat of the moment, people say things he shouldn't have
said it, and he's aware that he's up said well,
that's good. Yeah, but that being said, that was fucking scary.
That was like that he said that because he has
a way of looking. I don't know if it's the
way his eyebrowser shaped or his face is red. But
when he says things, you know, he says things with intensity,
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So it's like an incantation when he says I hope
does that mean? You know, like it's like a spell,
Like he's like a warlock, Like she's a witch and
he's a warlock, and they're wishing upon someone's life, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Like the evil eye.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
We have the evil ee, like we you know, it's
fucking scary, right, So when Louis said something like that,
I was like, whoa, that's not nice because it seems
as though he puts out the energy like he's trying
to be the good guy, you know, putting on the
pajamas and putting out.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
The good energy like he's trying to do the right thing,
pajamas right, and now here.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
He is sending out this negative energy like somebody should
suffer and he wants to see people suffer.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
This doesn't seem like his brand.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I did not know that he issued an apology, so
he did.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And this made me feel a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yes, yeah, I was happy that he did that because
I don't think that's what he means to do. And
they're all about no mistay, and I don't think that's
what he really meant. But listen, Noma Say Bitches, although
I don't think she's doing that positcast with that woman anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, I'm not sure about that.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Don't quote me that, but I believe that she is
no longer doing the podcast with the woman that she
was doing Noma Stay Bitches with. That's pretty I'm pretty
pretty sure about that way.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yes, But anyway, he did.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Put out the statement, so he apologized the apology statement,
which is great, like because that was really hardcore.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
But listen, we can carry on. But I think given.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
That Margaret was the bad person over this last season
and before with doing all the bad stuff, with making
the family go through all these things which caused him
allegedly caused him to make her. The other thing he
did say, remember is that she's a terrible person, a
horrible individual. Yes, and now that we know that somebody
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else had their hands.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
In cookie jar Jackie Goldschneider, I mean, come on, but yes,
But so that the point is that the tension we
were live tweeting like, I was freaking like I honestly,
as far as television, I don't remember the last episode
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of Breaking Bad as much as I remember the feeling
that I had from the last episode of The Sopranos.
But it literally felt like because number one, the tension
was building so well. Totally Again, we have to give
people don't understand the fucking the storytelling of the editors.
You have to you have to give them credit, Babe.
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They're editing, the cutting, the sound editing. I sent you
at one arduous process I sent.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
You at one point. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I'm not skipping ahead because we're running scale because we
go to Fuda's house, yes, and Danielle's there and she's
telling about the meeting at Teresa's house and Danielle walks in,
I think Danielle or Melissa walks in, and Fuda says,
she goes, yeah, I didn't want the house to smell
like dogs, so I lit some pumpkin candles and talk pumpkins,
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and then they cut.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
The next scene is daniel and they're carving pumpkins. I
mean the editing. They could have cut to any scene,
by the way.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
But the thing about this is that these scenes, like
when they're at Melissa's house, so they're at Dolores, any
one of these scenes, they're there for at least an hour.
So if you're shooting, let's say, if three or four
people in a scene, that's at least four cameras, and
if you're there for at least an hour, that's four
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hours of footage. It's a lot of talking from each
camera and the editing, I mean, just the film. I
don't think there's ever been a behind the scenes on
the storytelling of reality TV. That'd be cool, but they should,
they should do something like that.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I don't know if I'd want to know that far,
because we've there's been times where didn't we go somewhere we.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Saw the camera. We we've seen. I remember I saw
a clip of them filming Real Housewives in New Jersey
a couple of seasons ago on Instagram, and I was like,
I didn't want to see.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
We don't want to know, we have never seen it.
We do not want to know how the sausage is made.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
If we were walking around New York City and I
saw Ramona Singer and Sonya Morgan and there was cameras
filming with their dogs run the other way, fucking, I
would die. I'd be, like, my heart would be. I'd
be so it would be like if I saw like
Farrel Fawcett filming an episode of Charlie's Angels.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I don't know, I know, I know, I don't want
to know. I can't see that.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
But it was so intense when we were watching it
that when they went to a commercial and they showed
a trailer for the New New York season coming out,
we needed a breather, Like we were like, this is yeah,
We're gonna be ready for this when this comes on.
They didn't show the date when it was coming out, but.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, right, they showed the trailer, but they didn't show.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
The date, which I'm just like, yeah, let us know
when we need it bad, that we need it bad.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
We need to know when, Like why are you just
showing the trailer? We need a date? Yeah, because number one,
we need a date because this is coming to an end.
Number two. It's just anything's going to be lighter than this. Anything,
because it was literally like the Sopranos, Like it was like,
what the fuck, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
What's gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
How was this going to end?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Who do you think's idea was to go back to rails?
Do you think it was Dolores or the producers?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I think it was a producer. Yeah, I think I.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Was happy to go back to rails. Yes, that was
a very soprano asque thing to do.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
They know what they're doing. The train going by, they
know what they're doing, brick wall and they all get
out of the car and walk across the train tracks,
all dressed.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, with the fur and the jackets and the way
they're dressed up.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
It was so Sopranos.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
And then they finally got to the sit down. Is
there anything before the sit down? The actual when they
got to rails that you wanted to discuss?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I mean the only thing that happened before that. I
mean there was some soft moments obviously. I was telling
you earlier today that I thought was sweet, or I
thought was kind of interesting that Daniel and Nate think
that calling Danielle's dad Sam as if the kids don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
You think their kids know?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Of course, I mean after a while, if they really
call them Sam, They're going, come on, that's Grandpa.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Like who's say? She writes?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
But I think I love that family so much, and
I really do, and I really think she's a star,
and I think there's so much there and I'm just
praying to God that they come back for that family.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Doris won the season and daniel emerge as a star.
She's a star on her social media. She's got the charisma,
She's comfortable in.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Front of her whole family.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
She's funny, she's self effacing, she's tough, but she's also sensitive, vulnerable.
Nate's great, Yeah, her kids are great. Bougie Kids is
a great thriving young kids, a brand of clothing. We
love Danielle.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I want to see that family win.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I wish I have Danielle on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
She'd be great. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's great.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
So I like that scene and I want to see
that family win, and I hope she has a relationship
with her dad. I like everything about out what's happening there.
I love the food as too. I just everything about
the episode is great.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I'm just so bummed about the Gorgas and and Teresa.
These guys are really they bring me down and I
can't believe. And I know it's never gonna go anywhere,
and I know they're probably I'm never going to talk again.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
It's just it's like there's it's just bothersome. They went
into a therapist office and the therapist knew nothing about them,
which I don't know how nobody can know anything about them,
but there's they could easily find a therapist if Joe
and Teresa went into a therapist office and the therapist said, uh,
(24:39):
tell me why you're here, And like I wonder if
they'd even be able to take track, like to able
to keep track of why they would be there, like
what happened in their relationship, because like I've said before,
I've never seen a brother and sister. They act like
they're a divorced couple.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, but when it goes back to Joe. Joe's very clear.
Joe Gorgon is very clear about the betrayal with the
pizza business. I mean, there's probably a lot of stuff
behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah, there was before with Joe Joe, Judy, there was
there's been problems.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Problems with Melissa, and I think it stems from Melissa
and Teresa.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
It's their thing. I I think that's a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
And Joe Gorgan Joe Judas had beef.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I think that's a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
They can't get out of the way of themselves.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yeah, you you said something. There would be a great
crossover with Lanya van zand that therapist the great for them.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
She'd get in their asses.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
What is it Alanya van Zand I don't know if
she has a show anymore, Slash TV. She was on
own or something on Oprah's channel. She because she would
get in there, and she's tough, she's relentless. She doesn't
let a family out the door until they figure it
out or not, you know, if they don't. But I
think she would, I swear, I think she would not
(25:55):
let them get out there.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Such a good spin off ten episodes they go Upstate
New Order and.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
They just block them in a room and get they
really need it. It's a shame.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
It's funny because Teresa said something like, I know to Louis,
you know, I know, honey, you said, if I really
need it, you know, you would get to sneak, stay
out of the way. He didn't say anything, and you know,
and she goes, but I don't need that whatever, And
I just thought, hmm, I wonder, I know, I wonder
if he's stopping it or because she used to be
so about family, family, family, but the jail thing really
turned things.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I'm sure going to jail could.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Do you do hard time like that year and a half, six.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Months, I think my year, almost two.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Months, twenty four months, twenty two months in prison. I
don't care if it's fed prison, that's hard. It's back.
She's in jail. Anyway, they had to sit down, they
got to rails, and we all knew it was gonna happen.
We all saw it coming. Jen Aiden and the aforementioned Danielle,
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they were the first ones to go nuts.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And well don't forget Jen Fessler very early on.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Well, she left after the beef right.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
She left after you really before it even began, she
just oh.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Right because she said oh right, because before they started fighting,
Teresa and Melissa was like, horror.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
If they were in a mirror. I mean, it was
like really ridiculous. This is this is why I don't
understand it. She was like horehoor whrror And then she said.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
No, said horror, my brother.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
And then the other one said you're fucking white trash.
And then they posed as if they were in a mirror,
and they literally posed. This one posed and that one
mirrored the pose. They literally it was like they were
in the mirror. Okay, they don't understand that. And then
this one, Jenfestler was like, I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I gotta go.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
It was so funny to me. She removed herself, She removed.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Herself from the situation literally like put herself in the corner.
Like she was like I gotta go, and like easily
and no one really, Jen, don't go, and then they
let her go.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I loved it so much.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
She knows herself, she has her own boundaries, which was awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
It was it was awesome that she left.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I loved it.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I love that she loved I would have done the
same thing that set the table of how it was gonna.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Go and and it just got worse and because then
jen Aiden and Danielle got into it. They were talking,
you know, back and forth, you're ugly or a loser,
you're this, that and the third and then jen I mean,
I know, Danielle said something about but then she said
something about Nate, who we love.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Danielle's you wear that, he has the boobs, you wear
the bra whatever, It's just like.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
And then she tried to fight her again. Oh yeah,
she tried to fight her.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Listen, this is when again we have another time where
the fourth wall sort of gets broken.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
I loved it and I love it too, where they
get up.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
And like go to the bathroom, get together, because what
happens is here you're gonna you're gonna get somebody hurt.
This is where it crosses the line. Brav Will gets
sued with something happened. Yeah, they should never They should
have the red solo clups on the table period.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I don't even think I think solo cups are too Jane.
They have paper cups.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, they need styrophone, yes, yeah, because they're two nuts.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, to have glasses.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
And regular even have ice cubes on the table to danger.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
No, it should be paper cups, and like, you know,
like it should be like a picnic for kids, like
like little babies like that because.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
They can't Christy streets and a styrophoam listen. The whole
thing was after it was over, I was like, want
want because and I said wan want But then I said, oh,
this can't end.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
There's so much more here.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yes, but I also was like so enraged at this
bitch that just turned it said okay, I did it.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I was like, Teresa, you're not being yourself. Why are
you mad at Margaret? And how come you're not mad
at Jackie Goldscheider, Like she's the one like underneath all
of it.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I was like, what else I know?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I know, we accused your husband of cheating and all that,
and you feel but.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
This is bad, Jackie Goldschneiders. Listen, this is bad bad.
The fact that Jackie Goldschneider admitted to co hurting schmoozing
meeting with Louise's ex wife, although at the time she
said I was mad at you. This is when you
would accuse because she had accused her husband. The one
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thing in her she accused Jackie Goldschneider's husband of cheating
it and spread the rumor again. Jackie Goldschneider, when she
was going to start becoming like, you know, Teresa's assistant
slash best friend, like super fan, should have said, yo,
when we.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Were having that, we went to our house and sat down.
She had many, plenty of time to make amends.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
She could have taken to the whole group.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
She said many.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I mean it would have been understandable, like yo, yo,
when when you went after my husband, I was gonna
go after your husband. I didn't do it, but I
was pissed, and you know, I'm sorry, and you know,
if you want to be friends, cool, But Jackie Goldschneider
seems like she really just wants to be on a
show or something. It got weird.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
It's weird, she said. I thought she was more advanced
than that, and she's a lawyer, she's more intelligent than this.
And the behavior is really wild to me.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
But did you see the photo that came out of
Jackie Goldslider.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Before she Yeah, she's taking a picture with Teresa like
a fan with their two kids got to meet and greet.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Man, some of these people. Man, they got fame, famous.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Alluring and people are seduced by it. It's weird.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
But you know, Jackie came off bad bad. She looks bad.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
She looks grimy bad.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
It looks the worst. I don't say she's the worst ever,
but in Housewives history as far as backstabbing and betrayal
and bullshit and.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Like bullshit, she looks like on the level of that
couple that snuck into the White House on Housewives of.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Dec grimey, super gri grimey. It looks grimy. And everybody
at the table felt it.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
That's like that to me was like, after all we've
been through, Like that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
And Margaret said, and I quote, you subpoenaed the wrong bitch.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Straight up. That's be on a T shirt. But Dolores
leaned over and she was translating.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
When Delores leans over, and it was like, basically, Teresa,
did you hear what she said?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Right?
Speaker 3 (32:09):
You know, like basically like she responded, she goes like
basically I heard it.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
You know, I'm cool.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I loved when jen Aaiden goes. Sometimes she has a
slow delay like a processing.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
A like story processing or something. Yeah, yeah, no, that
is not it. She just is stuck on being Margaret.
I guess they don't want to be wrong after everything
they've done to Margaret, and they've done it, I guess
they can't double back and turnround.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Hating you is wrong. I don't want to be right.
I just committed to that shit. It's wrong, though, And
the show ended, and like you said, you said it
was wamp want wamp. I mean a babe, it is
a TV show, Like, it's not like The Sopranos where
somebody's actually gonna get whacked. So the very end was
a little womp womp wamp. But the build up was
(32:53):
so good and then you know the aftermath of it.
You have to judge it by the aftermath because even
like the Sopranos, because remember when the Sopranos and it
went to black and everybody's like, what the fuck? Then
you're still talking about talking about.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
It all these years later. Yes, this is the way
I mean it, and wanh wah wah it was.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
It felt the same way.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
It gave more in a way that you were expecting.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
And the fact that it was all landed on Jaggie
Gulfsider because you're like, are you kidding me. This woman
this whole time has been showing up. By the way,
that one fight that she got in with Margaret, it
goes to show you when people are withholding something, they
have a secret that they're walking amongst a.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Group and there.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Are cancer and they're walking or it's something in it.
When you're in a group and you have a secret
and you're withhold it.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Like a Roquel thing. Yes, that's like a Roel from
v Yes, total type of starts spreading some ship and
the people start going crazy because I know this is happening.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yes, it's a full on gaslighting thing. It really is.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
It's like you have a thing and you're going nop nop,
you're the crazy one. Yeah, the crazy one, and Marcu's going,
what the fuck? Why are you acting this way with me?
It's because she didn't feel good about herself, because she
knew that she was fucking grimy. Yea, it was hey,
you know, And if she would have just come out
and said, here, I'm gonna come back. This is how
I'm coming out. I did this, that and the other
I wasn't right. That's a hard thing to do. By
the way, I'm not saying it's very difficult for somebody
(34:14):
to come to that show.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
The culture of this show, with the Internet and with
the playbacks, it would come in my jersey of it all,
and the small world of it all. You would think
she with.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
All the bloggers and everybody. I'm shocked that it didn't
come out.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I'm shocked that it didn't come out. Yeah, but it
made for a great season. Yep, I am in alliance.
I agree with you. I feel like my prediction is
that The Real Housewives of New Jersey will be back
fall of twenty twenty five. I think that they're gonna
go on a nice break. I think that they're gonna
start shooting, maybe not the fall, maybe the winter. Maybe
(34:50):
it might even have to be in the twenty twenty six.
I don't think they're gonna get her.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I hope they don't wait that long. I hope they
don't wait. I think they could go right away. I
don't think it's so much fractured that I think somebody
will choose not to come.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I think the Gorghas will choose not to come back.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Listen. I love Melissa Gorger. I considered the first Lady
of Jersey. Yeah, of course, I consider Teresa the og
of New Jersey, and of course Doris is the goddess
of New Jersey. Okay, but Melissa, because I don't think
Melissa Gorga is that crazy, she could be the one
(35:26):
to leave. Not that I wanted to leave, but it
would be a huge loss for her to leave, and
it would be a huge loss for her and Joe
Gorgon toly because he's always fun, he's fun.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
And he's the glue to the guys. I think, but
I think she could leave because.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I don't think she needs it.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I don't think that it's you're right, meaning not saying
that everybody else is crazy. Dolors is not crazy, like
but this is how I kind of put it together
in my head. She came in the show because of
her sister in law, and I think that's the glue
that kind of brought them in. I think at this
point with her who she is, she didn't really branch
(36:05):
out in other ways, Like she's not on a bunch
of other stuff, right, Like she doesn't.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Oh, yeah, they're commercial for REO's pasta.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
That's right, they're doing She's doing that, but it's by
the way, it's on Bravo, so it's not wide.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
It's it's a commercial. I get it.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
But I'm saying she's got a very successful envy. Her
stores are doing well. Yep, she could branch out on that.
She's got it made. You know, he's very successful. He
tours like. They got some things going on.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I don't think she needs it, needs it.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
I don't think she needs a hassle.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
But would the level would the show work without that tension.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
They got a lot of other tension going on, but
I think Theresa creates tension, like her friendship with then
Jen Aiden alone, like Jen and her are friends.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
But Teresa, you know, Teresa does Teresa.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
And if she doesn't do with Jen Aiden and she
doesn't continue to be a great friend of Jen Aiden,
Jen and her might have some problems. And then Danielle
and Jen don't get along. I mean there's tension.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Because daniel Fuda she's ready, No, not daniel Fuda going.
She was going, they don't get along. She was ready
to she called, she said keep, She gave her the
fun keep.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yeah, that's right. Enough going on. There's enough going on.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
They also could bring in friends of theirs, the new
newer girls, like there's things I'm saying if the problem
is with the Gorgas and Lo the Ruala's, you know,
if you need to remove that for to not be
so toxic, toxic in terms of a family dynamic, if
it was up to a family to leave it was
the original, the Gorgas could survive, I'm saying in their life,
(37:43):
because they're a healthy, beautiful family. I'm just saying, I'm
just saying they're probably like KEEPI fuck you, We're not
going to probably.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Listen, Joe or listening and they're saying, fuck you, keep right.
I'm sure, but I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
But I'm saying they're they're successful, and they're healthy and
they're good people that they could probably be like we
don't need this ship.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Like you know, I'm saying that.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I think you're saying they're too healthy to be on
the fucking show. Yeah healthy enough.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yeah, in terms of like we don't need this drama.
You see how he talks like he's like what is
this shit? Like, I don't know he by the way,
he's a builder, he does houses.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
He could have a spin off.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I'm just saying, there's so many different options.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
They don't need to be in this type of toxic situation.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
They've been on television a really long time.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
They could have their own television show and Teresa could
stay on this way, or I've said it the other way,
the Housewives could go on and Teresa.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
And Luis could go on to something else, their own show.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I hope that the dust settles and somehow they're able
to get things back on track. I feel like I'm
an optimist when it comes to this. I don't know
if it's gonna happen, but I do know that it
was a great season. And like every season changes, every
season ends, there's stuff on the horizon. We didn't even
(38:56):
discuss Orange County. We didn't even discuss Dubai. We didn't
discuss our excitement over the reboot season two of the
Real Housewives of New York. And you know what, We're
gonna put a pin in sharing our incredible date night
we went to go see Deadpool. Oh yeah, but we
we We've gone on and on and on, and I
just feel like, with all the Midelhouse has in New
(39:19):
Jersey drama, We're just gonna let you guys marinate on
all that we're here. Every single week.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
We just went on and on and on.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
It was too good.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
It was it deserved, like a special thing. We love
it so much. It's gonna be hard to say goodbye
for now. And I really hope they don't wait too long.
See if you could get some intel from Andy and how.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I got to call somebody.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah, anyway, this was great, babe, I loved it. I
want to tell the people about our date because it's
been a long time since we took a date.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Yes, we'll tell people about our date on our next podcast,
because maybe there'll be another date and we could talk
about two dates. Yeah, hopefully that'll be the case. But
tell a friend, tell a friend about Rappaport's reality and
rate review. And I love you, babe, I love you too.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
M hm
Doris won the season. Daniel emerge as a star. She's
a star on her social media. She's got the charisma,
she's comfortable in front of.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Her car family.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
She's funny, she's self efface and she's tough, but she's
also sensitive, vulnerable. Nate's great, her kids are great. Bugie
Kids is a great thriving young kids, a brand of clothing.
We love Danielle.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I want to see that family win.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I wish you'd have Danielle on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
She'd be great.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, she's good.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, she's great.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
So I like that scene, and I want to see
that family win, and I hope she has a relationship
with her dad. I like everything about what's happening there.
I love the food as too. I just everything about
the episode is great. You know, I'm just so bummed
about the Gorgas and Teresa. These guys are really they
bring me down and I can't believe. And I know
it's never gonna go anywhere, and I know they're probably I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Never gonna talk again.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
It's just it's like there's just bother some.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
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and this is Rapaport's reality podcast, The podcast where we
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Speaker 2 (01:41):
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Speaker 1 (01:44):
Chomping at the bit, my goodness, chomping at the bit
to see it. We saw it, and we are still
reeling from the Real Housewives of New Jersey season finale.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That is living rent free in our brains.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
It's living rent free in our brains. And I'm sure
it's living rent free. And everybody listening in your brains,
in your your DNA, in your cells, I know it's
living rent free. In the fans on social media, there's
so much to discuss about that. There's so much to
discuss about reality TV. There's so much to discuss about.
Our big date night, afternoon date. That was nice, that
(02:30):
was good. We had an afternoon lunch today out in
the wild.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Wow, we've had a good week when you think about it. Yeah, yeah,
dates in a week.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, early lunch, early date. But let's just.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Let's just talk about it. Let's get it, Let's talk
about it, because.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
This is what we've been waiting for. And there's good
news for me about it, because you know, I was
the one that was like, it's over, this is gonna
I don't see this going on. And after the finale, Babe,
I have a different opinion. I think the show must
go on.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I agree. I'm glad you're you're saying that because I
always agree. I always lean as an optimistic person when
it comes to my reality TV.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
The show has to go on. After that, let's just
take it from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I mean, let me just say this. We I say
weak because I kept saying I'm nervous and you kept
saying I'm nervous too, Babe. All day leading up to
the finale, we were anticipating. We're exciting, Like literally, at
like five p fifteen, we're like, we have two hours
and forty five minutes before the show starts.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
You wanted to watch something else before, and it just
like I had.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
To get my brain because I now I want to
sit and stare at the clock.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So we watched Love Island before a couple episodes just
to like a massage our brain.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Which I will say has crept up on us. We
get it now. We get it.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
We're fully invested.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
We're fully invested in Love Island. We're a week or
two behind, yeah, we know that, but we get it. Yeah.
And I appreciate a lot of things about Love Island.
But the thing I appreciate the most is that there's
seventy nine episodes this season. Yeah. I don't know how
they keep going. I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
We have to hurry up because there's a reunion coming.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Oh, they haven't already had the reunion.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I don't think so. Or maybe they have.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
It doesn't matter, but we're not in it, dude. So
I'm looking forward to getting there because we're.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Down with Love Island. I don't know how they shoot
the show. I don't know how they diversified Ariana's time.
Sometimes I feel like she should be there, and sometimes
she just pops up. I don't know how many trips
she made over to Thailand.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Or to Hiti Tahiti, Fiji. I don't know where they are.
I don't know where it is. It doesn't it's all the.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Same, but it looks now down with Love Island. But
realize size in New Jersey Grand Finale evening it came
it saw it lived up to expectations.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Sand snacks. We didn't even have snacks.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I thought we did have jelly beans. We had jelly beans, Babe,
we did not. We had jelly beans.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
We did not.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
We did it. We have the the bag of jelly beans.
There was jelly beans before.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
We ate the jelly beans the night before we're in
the apartment. We had it. The day before, no.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Baby, we had jelly beans. The other had two tubes.
That was the day before.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
No Babe, we ate go here Saturday, I know, but
we ate know we had it. Sands.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
We should have sayd because I remember I said I
wish I had the jelly beans tonight.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Okay, well we didn't eat snacks.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You didn't need it for this, You didn't need snacks.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Let's just let's just start with the first. The first
seeing where things went totally awry is when Margaret jen
Fessler came over to Margaret's house and they were waiting
for Dolores and they were chit chatting about what was
going to be the big sit down. There's always a
big sit down when it comes to Italians. There's always
a sit down. That was the first thing where we
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were like, oh shit. And I think it was the first.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
First scene that I was like, oh, Ship was when
she sent the arrangement, what do you mean to Teresa's house?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
That was from last episode? Oh, that was from the
episode before when Margaret sent you a.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Right, that's right, because which when she was having her
she tells she tells her what shengement.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
She tells Fessler what she did in Festal was like, no,
you did it right.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
But we we were watching that scene and you know,
they're chit chatting about the thing, and then Dolores shows up.
It seemed like Dolores was kind of on the fence
when she called.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
When she called, she says, I'm coming, I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Coming, but I thought about it. I'm gonna come, right,
she said, I'm gonna come.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I'm gonna come.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
But when Margaret told her remember last season when it
happened and at the rewatch party and dolor and I
invited you, and Dolores went fucking ape Ship.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
She went ape.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Dolores went totally crazy and she called her a lying
seaword And Margarete said, you did you just call me
a lying seaword? And she goes, yeah, I did call you.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Your own house, sitting on her couch.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I mean, whoa right, I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Gotta be real piss to call somebody a lying seaward
in their house.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
All on their serving, you.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Putting their own pudding. I think it was like magnolia.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I think it was no, no, no, it was a
frosantic no.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
No, she put she digged in the thing that was
the pudding. She had the pudding.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
They were having cronut cronuts.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Croissans donuts, nuts nuts cut.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
A crow nut donut.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Right, which we've learned that I never they look disgusting.
I'm sure they taste great.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, but it was a pudding she was eating. She
scooped into that pudding in Dolorous.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Let me tell you something as a guy, when Dolores
gets angry, like she scares me, like she's like, maybe
it's because I know she was a corrections officer. She
doesn't talk about it a lot. But just to clarify again,
and I'm not the I'm like breaking news. Dolores was
a corrections officer in a man She doesn't talk about
it a lot prison. I don't think she likes people
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to know that. No, she talks about it she does. Yeah,
I mean it's not like she goes on and on
and on about it. It's not like I'm breaking some
sort of secret. And when she gets pissed off the
way she got pissed off with the two veins.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Popping in her forest, I haven't seen that a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Not that pissed.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
She's been pissed this season.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
She got pissed last season at the party at well
somebody's house.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Jaden Jen Ayden, and she got pissed at the Joe
Gorga when they were talking about they had that party,
and she got pissed and she left the party.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I don't know, right. And she also got pissed with
Jen Aayden at the reunion. Yeah, And I was like,
she's gonna head butt something.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Not often that she gets that. This is probably the
worst I've seen her.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
She hasn't. She got mad. She went from zero to
sixty real quick, like are lying, Yeah, Yeah, it was.
It was intense. I was not mad at it at all.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And Margaret was like totally straight faced. And we love Margaret.
I know you don't love her as much as I
do as a character on the show. No, but I
gotta tell you like I'm like, I would be like Frozer.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's hard.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
It's not that I don't love Margaret, but in any scene,
it's like with Dolores or Teresa, like they just take president.
Like I was on team Dolores because I know what.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Delors was saying, like this was a takedown.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
You invited everybody over to decide something before Bravo Khan
and Delores was like, she's Switzerland.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
She keeps the peace.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
That's what she does, that's what she's good at, that's
who she is authentically as a person. And she's saying
to her, don't say that shit on TV. Don't say
like you had me over to do something that I
didn't do.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
She was clearly caught off guard by her saying that
Doris was pissed. Yeah, like don't that's not true, and
don't say that.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
You're because what you're calling it now is different than
what you were calling it then. Even if you did
invite me over, that's such who you would call me
to if you're calling me over to a barbecue, and
what it really was was a takedown. Don't say that
shit now, do you know what I'm saying? So that's
what she was mad at But anyway, it wasn't less.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I got her baby gave a shout out again once
again to jenfestor because Jenfest he is like, like a baby?
What is it a deer?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Adult deer in headlights?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
What is a dough dough?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Do I? What are you saying?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Baby? Like a baby deer? What call like a dough?
Is that door dove?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Bambi?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
No, but they don't call a baby baby deer? Don't
they call it dough? Okay, just seems like I don't
like anybody freaking out.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
She doesn't like confrontation, that's clear, clearly and with any sort,
and I think everybody's a little bit leery of do
what I would like.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
To say to her. She's a lovely lady. We met her.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Reality TV of the nature of Housewives is not for you,
but for.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Her because you need that. But if you.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Don't like confrontation, I mean, she doesn't like it of
any kind. She I mean, and even scenes where there's
just a conversation where somebody is like, I don't fuck
with that bitch because she said da da da, She's like,
say that right.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
She doesn't like it.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
But I think we need that in Jersey. I think
we need you. You can't have all lunatic No, I
get it. I got a piano, like you can't.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Delores.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Is that Dolores is like, come on now, don't doors
in the middle.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
And then you got some might be on me. It's like,
what is happening? I love it.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I appreciate it so much. But she was sitting on
that couch like she calmed it down. I loved how
I love how quickly it came to love, Like she
was like all right, and you saw Dolores immediately go
like all right, all right, done, it's over.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I gets the difference between women and men because that
kind of volume and tenacity fighting that's fighting, or get
the fuck out of my house, or you know that's
fighting energy. That's like grappling, punch in the face. I
related to that. I related. I mean not the S word.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I mean if me and Tammy have gotten to like fights,
like she's like grit at her teens and she's okay,
go upstairs right now. She has gotten mad at me
like that, and I have like been like okay, or
like or I've laughed or I've gotten uncomfortable because she's
really pissed off at me. But and then we've come
really quickly. We're like, sister, I get that anger, Like
I get how mad she will. I don't know how
close they really truly are, but I get getting that
(12:21):
mad at someone also in menopause, perimenopause, this kind of
area in life.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But and I love how quickly she was like, Okay,
all right, I'm good, I'm done, I'm over.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I don't know how hot it was outside, she looked
like she had a valorousa yes, I'm hot out. You know.
I'm trying to give her all the benefit of like
what's going on in her life to get that she was.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
She was pissed.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
She was pissed at the subject because she was outing her,
and she's trying to, you know, keep the peace with
Teresa and everybody else.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
The other time Dolores got really really angry this year
was at Jackie Goldschneider. We talked about it at length
his podcast. When she found out that Jackie Goldschneider referred
to her as a slob on text message. There.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
That is a whole different thing right there. She got
knocked out for that. That was wrong, wrong, wrong, you know,
how I feel about that, and.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
We have to just give it up to Dolores because.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Babe, I'm not to interrupt you, babe, but listen, this
Jackie character is getting away with murder.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
She's done.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
She has gotten away with the most incredible things here.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
She made it through calling Dolors a slob. This is crazy,
but we'll get to Obviously, everybody knows what happens later
in the episode. And I know everybody listening to this,
and there's lesions of you. Everybody listens this.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I know you.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You watched it, you dissected it, you discussed it. I
want to give a shout out to the people that
DMed me that also felt no disrespect to the great
fun inform Danny Pellegrino. But a couple of people were like,
I wish it was you sitting there.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I wish you were with her on that.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I don't watch what happened. I know live you.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Could have warned one of your new outfits to your
son and booted. That would have been great.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I would have been suited in body. But Danny Pellegrino,
he was great. I watched watch what happens, Like, listen,
I can't be on every episode I know, and the
last time I was on with Dolores, I can't be
there all the time, but I was jealous, and there
were a few people like, I wish it was you,
and I wish it was me too. I did, I did.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I'm me too. I was thinking that too.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I didn't want to say anything when we were watching
because I didn't want you.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
To get upset, but I was thinking that.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
We were both sitting there thinking that.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But he was good. I even said he was great.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
And I love to watch when people actually watch the show,
because I can't stand when people are fake fans and
they're on there and they're faking their way through. It
really drives me nuts, especially when it comes to a
big deal.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I have somebody who they got to have somebody watch
if somebody like, you know, the David Rquette episode, who
seemed like he knew and then he did know anything
about it? Who again called Margaret Joseph's Claudia. He didn't
call her Mary, Yeah, call Michelle. Yeah. That was like
it's one thing that like mistake, like you go Mark, Michael, Oh, yeah,
I mean Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, Claudia is a whole other They were not Margaret Michelle,
we're in the beginning of the album, Claudia.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It just doesn't I don't see how he got from
one thing to another. That being said, and then we
went to the other shocking moment. The next shocking moment
of Real House Size of New Jersey finale was when
Louis and this is again people are going crazy about this,
said that he wishes Margaret's family. When he said, and
(15:39):
I quote or paraphrase, I wish and hope Margaret suffers.
I hope her son suffers. I hope her family suffers
like my our family has suffered. This is inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, that wasn't That wasn't good.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
But let's and Louise defense because I'm care to Louis.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
And Louis defense was he did put out an apology.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
He did he did know that yes, today, this afternoon
or this morning, Yes, this morning.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
He must have known this podcast was coming. What what?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
What?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
What did he say?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
He he said that he in the heat of everything
going on and everything that the family has been through,
he shouldn't have said that.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
He shouldn't have said that he hopes.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yeah, he shouldn't have said something like that. That people's
children are off limits. That he should not have said
that Margaret's family should be suffering.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
He should have said that.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Did he say he wishes that Margaret? Did he apologize for.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Saying he apologized for saying all of it that he
should Yes, I get it.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, but you know, in the.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Heat of the moment, people say things he shouldn't have
said it, and he's aware that he's up said well,
that's good. Yeah, but that being said, that was fucking scary.
That was like that he said that because he has
a way of looking. I don't know if it's the
way his eyebrowser shaped or his face is red. But
when he says things, you know, he says things with intensity,
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So it's like an incantation when he says I hope
does that mean? You know, like it's like a spell,
Like he's like a warlock, Like she's a witch and
he's a warlock, and they're wishing upon someone's life, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Like the evil eye.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
We have the evil ee, like we you know, it's
fucking scary, right, So when Louis said something like that,
I was like, whoa, that's not nice because it seems
as though he puts out the energy like he's trying
to be the good guy, you know, putting on the
pajamas and putting out.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
The good energy like he's trying to do the right thing,
pajamas right, and now here.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
He is sending out this negative energy like somebody should
suffer and he wants to see people suffer.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
This doesn't seem like his brand.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I did not know that he issued an apology, so
he did.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And this made me feel a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yes, yeah, I was happy that he did that because
I don't think that's what he means to do. And
they're all about no mistay, and I don't think that's
what he really meant. But listen, Noma Say Bitches, although
I don't think she's doing that positcast with that woman anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, I'm not sure about that.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Don't quote me that, but I believe that she is
no longer doing the podcast with the woman that she
was doing Noma Stay Bitches with. That's pretty I'm pretty
pretty sure about that way.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yes, But anyway, he did.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Put out the statement, so he apologized the apology statement,
which is great, like because that was really hardcore.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
But listen, we can carry on. But I think given.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
That Margaret was the bad person over this last season
and before with doing all the bad stuff, with making
the family go through all these things which caused him
allegedly caused him to make her. The other thing he
did say, remember is that she's a terrible person, a
horrible individual. Yes, and now that we know that somebody
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else had their hands.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
In cookie jar Jackie Goldschneider, I mean, come on, but yes,
But so that the point is that the tension we
were live tweeting like, I was freaking like I honestly,
as far as television, I don't remember the last episode
(19:11):
of Breaking Bad as much as I remember the feeling
that I had from the last episode of The Sopranos.
But it literally felt like because number one, the tension
was building so well. Totally Again, we have to give
people don't understand the fucking the storytelling of the editors.
You have to you have to give them credit, Babe.
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They're editing, the cutting, the sound editing. I sent you
at one arduous process I sent.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
You at one point. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I'm not skipping ahead because we're running scale because we
go to Fuda's house, yes, and Danielle's there and she's
telling about the meeting at Teresa's house and Danielle walks in,
I think Danielle or Melissa walks in, and Fuda says,
she goes, yeah, I didn't want the house to smell
like dogs, so I lit some pumpkin candles and talk pumpkins,
(20:01):
and then they cut.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
The next scene is daniel and they're carving pumpkins. I
mean the editing. They could have cut to any scene,
by the way.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
But the thing about this is that these scenes, like
when they're at Melissa's house, so they're at Dolores, any
one of these scenes, they're there for at least an hour.
So if you're shooting, let's say, if three or four
people in a scene, that's at least four cameras, and
if you're there for at least an hour, that's four
(20:30):
hours of footage. It's a lot of talking from each
camera and the editing, I mean, just the film. I
don't think there's ever been a behind the scenes on
the storytelling of reality TV. That'd be cool, but they should,
they should do something like that.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I don't know if I'd want to know that far,
because we've there's been times where didn't we go somewhere we.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Saw the camera. We we've seen. I remember I saw
a clip of them filming Real Housewives in New Jersey
a couple of seasons ago on Instagram, and I was like,
I didn't want to see.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
We don't want to know, we have never seen it.
We do not want to know how the sausage is made.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
If we were walking around New York City and I
saw Ramona Singer and Sonya Morgan and there was cameras
filming with their dogs run the other way, fucking, I
would die. I'd be, like, my heart would be. I'd
be so it would be like if I saw like
Farrel Fawcett filming an episode of Charlie's Angels.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I don't know, I know, I know, I don't want
to know. I can't see that.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
But it was so intense when we were watching it
that when they went to a commercial and they showed
a trailer for the New New York season coming out,
we needed a breather, Like we were like, this is yeah,
We're gonna be ready for this when this comes on.
They didn't show the date when it was coming out, but.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, right, they showed the trailer, but they didn't show.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
The date, which I'm just like, yeah, let us know
when we need it bad, that we need it bad.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
We need to know when, Like why are you just
showing the trailer? We need a date? Yeah, because number one,
we need a date because this is coming to an end.
Number two. It's just anything's going to be lighter than this. Anything,
because it was literally like the Sopranos, Like it was like,
what the fuck, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
What's gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
How was this going to end?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Who do you think's idea was to go back to rails?
Do you think it was Dolores or the producers?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I think it was a producer. Yeah, I think I.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Was happy to go back to rails. Yes, that was
a very soprano asque thing to do.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
They know what they're doing. The train going by, they
know what they're doing, brick wall and they all get
out of the car and walk across the train tracks,
all dressed.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, with the fur and the jackets and the way
they're dressed up.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
It was so Sopranos.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
And then they finally got to the sit down. Is
there anything before the sit down? The actual when they
got to rails that you wanted to discuss?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I mean the only thing that happened before that. I
mean there was some soft moments obviously. I was telling
you earlier today that I thought was sweet, or I
thought was kind of interesting that Daniel and Nate think
that calling Danielle's dad Sam as if the kids don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
You think their kids know?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Of course, I mean after a while, if they really
call them Sam, They're going, come on, that's Grandpa.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Like who's say? She writes?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
But I think I love that family so much, and
I really do, and I really think she's a star,
and I think there's so much there and I'm just
praying to God that they come back for that family.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Doris won the season and daniel emerge as a star.
She's a star on her social media. She's got the charisma,
She's comfortable in.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Front of her whole family.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
She's funny, she's self effacing, she's tough, but she's also sensitive, vulnerable.
Nate's great, Yeah, her kids are great. Bougie Kids is
a great thriving young kids, a brand of clothing. We
love Danielle.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I want to see that family win.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I wish I have Danielle on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
She'd be great. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, she's great.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
So I like that scene and I want to see
that family win, and I hope she has a relationship
with her dad. I like everything about out what's happening there.
I love the food as too. I just everything about
the episode is great.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I'm just so bummed about the Gorgas and and Teresa.
These guys are really they bring me down and I
can't believe. And I know it's never gonna go anywhere,
and I know they're probably I'm never going to talk again.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
It's just it's like there's it's just bothersome. They went
into a therapist office and the therapist knew nothing about them,
which I don't know how nobody can know anything about them,
but there's they could easily find a therapist if Joe
and Teresa went into a therapist office and the therapist said, uh,
(24:39):
tell me why you're here, And like I wonder if
they'd even be able to take track, like to able
to keep track of why they would be there, like
what happened in their relationship, because like I've said before,
I've never seen a brother and sister. They act like
they're a divorced couple.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, but when it goes back to Joe. Joe's very clear.
Joe Gorgon is very clear about the betrayal with the
pizza business. I mean, there's probably a lot of stuff
behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah, there was before with Joe Joe, Judy, there was
there's been problems.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Problems with Melissa, and I think it stems from Melissa
and Teresa.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
It's their thing. I I think that's a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
And Joe Gorgan Joe Judas had beef.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I think that's a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
They can't get out of the way of themselves.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yeah, you you said something. There would be a great
crossover with Lanya van zand that therapist the great for them.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
She'd get in their asses.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
What is it Alanya van Zand I don't know if
she has a show anymore, Slash TV. She was on
own or something on Oprah's channel. She because she would
get in there, and she's tough, she's relentless. She doesn't
let a family out the door until they figure it
out or not, you know, if they don't. But I
think she would, I swear, I think she would not
(25:55):
let them get out there.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Such a good spin off ten episodes they go Upstate
New Order and.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
They just block them in a room and get they
really need it. It's a shame.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
It's funny because Teresa said something like, I know to Louis,
you know, I know, honey, you said, if I really
need it, you know, you would get to sneak, stay
out of the way. He didn't say anything, and you know,
and she goes, but I don't need that whatever, And
I just thought, hmm, I wonder, I know, I wonder
if he's stopping it or because she used to be
so about family, family, family, but the jail thing really
turned things.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I'm sure going to jail could.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Do you do hard time like that year and a half, six.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Months, I think my year, almost two.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Months, twenty four months, twenty two months in prison. I
don't care if it's fed prison, that's hard. It's back.
She's in jail. Anyway, they had to sit down, they
got to rails, and we all knew it was gonna happen.
We all saw it coming. Jen Aiden and the aforementioned Danielle,
(26:49):
they were the first ones to go nuts.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And well don't forget Jen Fessler very early on.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Well, she left after the beef right.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
She left after you really before it even began, she
just oh.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Right because she said oh right, because before they started fighting,
Teresa and Melissa was like, horror.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
If they were in a mirror. I mean, it was
like really ridiculous. This is this is why I don't
understand it. She was like horehoor whrror And then she said.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
No, said horror, my brother.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
And then the other one said you're fucking white trash.
And then they posed as if they were in a mirror,
and they literally posed. This one posed and that one
mirrored the pose. They literally it was like they were
in the mirror. Okay, they don't understand that. And then
this one, Jenfestler was like, I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I gotta go.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
It was so funny to me. She removed herself, She removed.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Herself from the situation literally like put herself in the corner.
Like she was like I gotta go, and like easily
and no one really, Jen, don't go, and then they
let her go.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I loved it so much.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
She knows herself, she has her own boundaries, which was awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
It was it was awesome that she left.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I loved it.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I love that she loved I would have done the
same thing that set the table of how it was gonna.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Go and and it just got worse and because then
jen Aiden and Danielle got into it. They were talking,
you know, back and forth, you're ugly or a loser,
you're this, that and the third and then jen I mean,
I know, Danielle said something about but then she said
something about Nate, who we love.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Danielle's you wear that, he has the boobs, you wear
the bra whatever, It's just like.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
And then she tried to fight her again. Oh yeah,
she tried to fight her.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Listen, this is when again we have another time where
the fourth wall sort of gets broken.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
I loved it and I love it too, where they
get up.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
And like go to the bathroom, get together, because what
happens is here you're gonna you're gonna get somebody hurt.
This is where it crosses the line. Brav Will gets
sued with something happened. Yeah, they should never They should
have the red solo clups on the table period.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I don't even think I think solo cups are too Jane.
They have paper cups.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, they need styrophone, yes, yeah, because they're two nuts.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, to have glasses.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
And regular even have ice cubes on the table to danger.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
No, it should be paper cups, and like, you know,
like it should be like a picnic for kids, like
like little babies like that because.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
They can't Christy streets and a styrophoam listen. The whole
thing was after it was over, I was like, want
want because and I said wan want But then I said, oh,
this can't end.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
There's so much more here.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yes, but I also was like so enraged at this
bitch that just turned it said okay, I did it.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I was like, Teresa, you're not being yourself. Why are
you mad at Margaret? And how come you're not mad
at Jackie Goldscheider, Like she's the one like underneath all
of it.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I was like, what else I know?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I know, we accused your husband of cheating and all that,
and you feel but.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
This is bad, Jackie Goldschneiders. Listen, this is bad bad.
The fact that Jackie Goldschneider admitted to co hurting schmoozing
meeting with Louise's ex wife, although at the time she
said I was mad at you. This is when you
would accuse because she had accused her husband. The one
(30:17):
thing in her she accused Jackie Goldschneider's husband of cheating
it and spread the rumor again. Jackie Goldschneider, when she
was going to start becoming like, you know, Teresa's assistant
slash best friend, like super fan, should have said, yo,
when we.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Were having that, we went to our house and sat down.
She had many, plenty of time to make amends.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
She could have taken to the whole group.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
She said many.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I mean it would have been understandable, like yo, yo,
when when you went after my husband, I was gonna
go after your husband. I didn't do it, but I
was pissed, and you know, I'm sorry, and you know,
if you want to be friends, cool, But Jackie Goldschneider
seems like she really just wants to be on a
show or something. It got weird.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
It's weird, she said. I thought she was more advanced
than that, and she's a lawyer, she's more intelligent than this.
And the behavior is really wild to me.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
But did you see the photo that came out of
Jackie Goldslider.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Before she Yeah, she's taking a picture with Teresa like
a fan with their two kids got to meet and greet.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Man, some of these people. Man, they got fame, famous.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Alluring and people are seduced by it. It's weird.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
But you know, Jackie came off bad bad. She looks bad.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
She looks grimy bad.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
It looks the worst. I don't say she's the worst ever,
but in Housewives history as far as backstabbing and betrayal
and bullshit and.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Like bullshit, she looks like on the level of that
couple that snuck into the White House on Housewives of.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Dec grimey, super gri grimey. It looks grimy. And everybody
at the table felt it.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
That's like that to me was like, after all we've
been through, Like that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
And Margaret said, and I quote, you subpoenaed the wrong bitch.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Straight up. That's be on a T shirt. But Dolores
leaned over and she was translating.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
When Delores leans over, and it was like, basically, Teresa,
did you hear what she said?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Right?
Speaker 3 (32:09):
You know, like basically like she responded, she goes like
basically I heard it.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
You know, I'm cool.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I loved when jen Aaiden goes. Sometimes she has a
slow delay like a processing.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
A like story processing or something. Yeah, yeah, no, that
is not it. She just is stuck on being Margaret.
I guess they don't want to be wrong after everything
they've done to Margaret, and they've done it, I guess
they can't double back and turnround.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Hating you is wrong. I don't want to be right.
I just committed to that shit. It's wrong, though, And
the show ended, and like you said, you said it
was wamp want wamp. I mean a babe, it is
a TV show, Like, it's not like The Sopranos where
somebody's actually gonna get whacked. So the very end was
a little womp womp wamp. But the build up was
(32:53):
so good and then you know the aftermath of it.
You have to judge it by the aftermath because even
like the Sopranos, because remember when the Sopranos and it
went to black and everybody's like, what the fuck? Then
you're still talking about talking about.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
It all these years later. Yes, this is the way
I mean it, and wanh wah wah it was.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
It felt the same way.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
It gave more in a way that you were expecting.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
And the fact that it was all landed on Jaggie
Gulfsider because you're like, are you kidding me. This woman
this whole time has been showing up. By the way,
that one fight that she got in with Margaret, it
goes to show you when people are withholding something, they
have a secret that they're walking amongst a.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Group and there.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Are cancer and they're walking or it's something in it.
When you're in a group and you have a secret
and you're withhold it.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Like a Roquel thing. Yes, that's like a Roel from
v Yes, total type of starts spreading some ship and
the people start going crazy because I know this is happening.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yes, it's a full on gaslighting thing. It really is.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
It's like you have a thing and you're going nop nop,
you're the crazy one. Yeah, the crazy one, and Marcu's going,
what the fuck? Why are you acting this way with me?
It's because she didn't feel good about herself, because she
knew that she was fucking grimy. Yea, it was hey,
you know, And if she would have just come out
and said, here, I'm gonna come back. This is how
I'm coming out. I did this, that and the other
I wasn't right. That's a hard thing to do. By
the way, I'm not saying it's very difficult for somebody
(34:14):
to come to that show.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
The culture of this show, with the Internet and with
the playbacks, it would come in my jersey of it all,
and the small world of it all. You would think
she with.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
All the bloggers and everybody. I'm shocked that it didn't
come out.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I'm shocked that it didn't come out. Yeah, but it
made for a great season. Yep, I am in alliance.
I agree with you. I feel like my prediction is
that The Real Housewives of New Jersey will be back
fall of twenty twenty five. I think that they're gonna
go on a nice break. I think that they're gonna
start shooting, maybe not the fall, maybe the winter. Maybe
(34:50):
it might even have to be in the twenty twenty six.
I don't think they're gonna get her.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I hope they don't wait that long. I hope they
don't wait. I think they could go right away. I
don't think it's so much fractured that I think somebody
will choose not to come.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I think the Gorghas will choose not to come back.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Listen. I love Melissa Gorger. I considered the first Lady
of Jersey. Yeah, of course, I consider Teresa the og
of New Jersey, and of course Doris is the goddess
of New Jersey. Okay, but Melissa, because I don't think
Melissa Gorga is that crazy, she could be the one
(35:26):
to leave. Not that I wanted to leave, but it
would be a huge loss for her to leave, and
it would be a huge loss for her and Joe
Gorgon toly because he's always fun, he's fun.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
And he's the glue to the guys. I think, but
I think she could leave because.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I don't think she needs it.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I don't think that it's you're right, meaning not saying
that everybody else is crazy. Dolors is not crazy, like
but this is how I kind of put it together
in my head. She came in the show because of
her sister in law, and I think that's the glue
that kind of brought them in. I think at this
point with her who she is, she didn't really branch
(36:05):
out in other ways, Like she's not on a bunch
of other stuff, right, Like she doesn't.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Oh, yeah, they're commercial for REO's pasta.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
That's right, they're doing She's doing that, but it's by
the way, it's on Bravo, so it's not wide.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
It's it's a commercial. I get it.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
But I'm saying she's got a very successful envy. Her
stores are doing well. Yep, she could branch out on that.
She's got it made. You know, he's very successful. He
tours like. They got some things going on.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I don't think she needs it, needs it.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
I don't think she needs a hassle.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
But would the level would the show work without that tension.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
They got a lot of other tension going on, but
I think Theresa creates tension, like her friendship with then
Jen Aiden alone, like Jen and her are friends.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
But Teresa, you know, Teresa does Teresa.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
And if she doesn't do with Jen Aiden and she
doesn't continue to be a great friend of Jen Aiden,
Jen and her might have some problems. And then Danielle
and Jen don't get along. I mean there's tension.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Because daniel Fuda she's ready, No, not daniel Fuda going.
She was going, they don't get along. She was ready
to she called, she said keep, She gave her the
fun keep.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yeah, that's right. Enough going on. There's enough going on.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
They also could bring in friends of theirs, the new
newer girls, like there's things I'm saying if the problem
is with the Gorgas and Lo the Ruala's, you know,
if you need to remove that for to not be
so toxic, toxic in terms of a family dynamic, if
it was up to a family to leave it was
the original, the Gorgas could survive, I'm saying in their life,
(37:43):
because they're a healthy, beautiful family. I'm just saying, I'm
just saying they're probably like KEEPI fuck you, We're not
going to probably.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Listen, Joe or listening and they're saying, fuck you, keep right.
I'm sure, but I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
But I'm saying they're they're successful, and they're healthy and
they're good people that they could probably be like we
don't need this ship.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Like you know, I'm saying that.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I think you're saying they're too healthy to be on
the fucking show. Yeah healthy enough.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yeah, in terms of like we don't need this drama.
You see how he talks like he's like what is
this shit? Like, I don't know he by the way,
he's a builder, he does houses.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
He could have a spin off.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I'm just saying, there's so many different options.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
They don't need to be in this type of toxic situation.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
They've been on television a really long time.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
They could have their own television show and Teresa could
stay on this way, or I've said it the other way,
the Housewives could go on and Teresa.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
And Luis could go on to something else, their own show.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I hope that the dust settles and somehow they're able
to get things back on track. I feel like I'm
an optimist when it comes to this. I don't know
if it's gonna happen, but I do know that it
was a great season. And like every season changes, every
season ends, there's stuff on the horizon. We didn't even
(38:56):
discuss Orange County. We didn't even discuss Dubai. We didn't
discuss our excitement over the reboot season two of the
Real Housewives of New York. And you know what, We're
gonna put a pin in sharing our incredible date night
we went to go see Deadpool. Oh yeah, but we
we We've gone on and on and on, and I
just feel like, with all the Midelhouse has in New
(39:19):
Jersey drama, We're just gonna let you guys marinate on
all that we're here. Every single week.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
We just went on and on and on.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
It was too good.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
It was it deserved, like a special thing. We love
it so much. It's gonna be hard to say goodbye
for now. And I really hope they don't wait too long.
See if you could get some intel from Andy and how.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I got to call somebody.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah, anyway, this was great, babe, I loved it. I
want to tell the people about our date because it's
been a long time since we took a date.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Yes, we'll tell people about our date on our next podcast,
because maybe there'll be another date and we could talk
about two dates. Yeah, hopefully that'll be the case. But
tell a friend, tell a friend about Rappaport's reality and
rate review. And I love you, babe, I love you too.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
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