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December 4, 2025 • 33 mins

Welcome to episode 78 of Rapaport's Reality! Starring Kebe & Michael Rapaport. This is the reality television podcast that the whole reality world has been waiting for. The Rapaport's are here to discuss: 

The Golden Age of Reality TV

Gia Guiadice Huge Shoutout

New Years Resolution 

Jen Shaw coming out of jail

Real Housewives Redemption 

Pathological In Potomac?

Wendy & Eddie's jail situation 

9th Year of Marriage

Being in Israel

Leak Gate & Grading Heather Gay

Taking That Reality Ride

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Starting in January.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
January, we have the much anticipated season of Traders season.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Stressed about it. I'm so stressed.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I mean, it is crazy that Vander Rules is back
jen Shaw by the next.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Wait, yeah, holy, next week? No, yeah, next week on Tuesday,
she gets out of jail.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Joe.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
If those one of them goes to jail, I'm gonna
be really tripping.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
I'll be upset their housewives. It's not good question.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
It's a great housewive.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I didn't say she's fucking Meryl Street. Is Heather gave
the number one girl.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
In the group.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Nos? She I think she's annoyed herself. One of my
greatest things in life is being married to you. Yes,
I so I feel that way, but you don't really
exude that.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yes we're here, Yes, Yes, welcome. Hello.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
This is rap a Port Reality. My name is Michael.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Rapaport and I'm Keebi Rapoport.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
And this is our podcast where we my wife and
I Kibi discuss all things reality TV, all things popular culture,
and a few things about our relationship. You never listened
to rap a Ports Reality. The first question is.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Why and thank you though for coming.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
The second question is for us to ask you to subscribe,
rate and review, and to let you know that you
can follow us on Instagram at rap a Ports reality.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
So much going on in the world of popular culture.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I mean I thought the summer was the golden, golden
time for reality TV, But right now, I mean, Bravo
has got it on lock more than ever.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
I know, it's amazing. Show after show after show. The
lineup's great.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Premiere after premiere, after new show after revamp. And when
I say revamp, I mean vander Pump revamp.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yes, that's exciting.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
We have Salt Lake City in full bloom crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
We have the Real Housewives of Potomac in.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Full full bloom. I mean, after that last episode they
showed what's coming up, and I'm like, really, I mean
there's more.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Potomac and Salt Lake City are just cooking, riding high.
I know, Southern Charm is back, to medicine is back
my favorite, It's it's it's incredible.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
What's happening with reality TV? I know it's crazy?

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Well, I yes, Also over on Hulu we got the
Secret Lives of Mormons. We haven't even gotten into that.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
We haven't even started the new season of Secret Round.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
There's only so much time, and then.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Starting in January January eighth, we have the much much
anticipated season of season four, where yours truly, Michael Rappaport
will be in the cast.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
I'm so stressed about it. I'm so stressed.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I don't know what you.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Did on there.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I don't know how It's gonna be just fine.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
I told you to behave.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I behave, you know what. I behave like a gentleman.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I like have a what a month and some days
to like stress about that.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
They're probably they'll probably there'll probably be a lot of
things on the cutting room floor because I'm just too sweet,
too sweet, too genuine, too honest. But it's gonna be good.
But it's an incredible time. I mean, it is crazy
that vanderpub Rules is back.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, and Andy made a video and said that it's
really really good, got his stamp of approval. And he's
not a producer on the show.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, he's something on the show. He's a producer. He's
doing something on the show. The show doing.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Well helps helps him. Yeah, the great Army Cohen. But
I can't wait to watch that. I mean, we're behind, which.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
We don't like to be.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
I like I'm waiting for you. I'm on you about
it like I'm always. I don't because I would get
it done. I'd stay up all night and catch up
on everything.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
But you watch such an hour straight of TV.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, we had to because we have to catch up
and we're still behind.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well we're probably the most. We're gonna be.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Too behind on Married to Medicine because one's up.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
That's a great show. But I will say, I will say,
even though we're behind, there is something great about being
behind because when you could binge yes, two three episodes
of Married to Medicine, When you could binge two three
episodes of Southern Trump, that's six hours.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
That's the entire afternoon.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Oh this is my favorite. That's a day made of
ice cream to me, Like, that's just like an amazing
day binging reality television show.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
We must give a huge, huge shout out to Gia
jude Ice, oh my goodness, who somehow, some way was
one of the winners. The other girl won, but Jia
Judice really really won. She won Special Forces. I mean,

(05:12):
and she's on a victory lap tour right now. She's
like a Simone Biles. You know when Olympians come.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Back yes, so she just without the medal.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
She got the medal, but she didn't get the medal,
but she got the medal.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
I mean, I don't know what they give you. Maybe
they give you prize money, but you know.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
You don't they don't actually say what you get.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
You get something, you just.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Get credit because like that's like sheer hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
And she's walking around and everywhere she goes people like congratulations.
It's literally like when Mary her retin came back, or
like Edwin Moses, like Olympic heroes come back with the
gold medal.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
She's that girl and she just signed.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
With CIA amazing, and Jia Jude is superseding all expectations
despite all the odds.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Did you have any doubt in her? I never did.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
I didn't know why I never did.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
As soon as she's sang that song's Amanemamous, I saw
the sparkle man. I saw that she had the potential
to be special by the way she was bold enough
to get up there and sing when when the skills
weren't exactly there at that young age. There's something about that. Yes,
she's very, very she's beyond wise, beyond her years. She's

(06:25):
stronger than strong it's not even the words. She's sweet,
she's beautiful. I watched a couple of her like get
Ready with Me videos after she won, just to see
what she's like. She's moved into her own apartment. I
wonder if that has anything to do with being independent
from her mom in Jersey beautiful apartment. She's fixing it up.

(06:46):
She had some ridiculous organizers come over and organize that
I wish I could get a hold of. I mean,
these women have some skill. They just organized her stuff
and it's like it was incredible. You know, I love
an organ I'm minimalist ish, but I'm not organized like that,
like things aren't labeled, but this is like, this was
pretty impressive. Anyway, she is very special in her mother

(07:11):
and father should be very very proud of her.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Babe.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
I have to say that one of my New Year's resolutions,
now that we're heading into twenty twenty six, yes, if
you could.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Believe that, it's crazy. It went by so fast and
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Do probably my only New Year's resolution, which was to
completely minimize my life in terms of clothes and clutter,
and I realized that I would really like I still
have a closet full of sneakers. I know, I have
a closet full of clothes that should be donated and

(07:44):
given to somebody who could appreciate them and wear them.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yes, well, you don't have that many clothes.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
There's I have enough stuff that I could.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
You want to go really, I want to do that too,
although right now, my shoes, my shoes, my shoe game.
I love every shoe that I have because I just.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Did it, like a shoes you didn't wear all of
twenty h You bought.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Me a Anna Winter Approved. I think they were called
a wall. What does that sounds like? Anna Winter something
el oh l. I don't forget what it stands for.
But they were like a knit sort of like the
Chanelle knit kind of thing, red, black and white high
top air Jordan's and I still have them. And I
asked you should I get rid of these? And you're like, no,

(08:25):
those are cool. They're black, they're like Anna Winter approof
is what they're called?

Speaker 1 (08:29):
A wall? Are they black?

Speaker 3 (08:30):
They're black and red? And you know, like they're like
that knit. They're like knit like and they're cool. But
I I don't really wear them.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, yeah, I uh, but I keep.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Them because they're and I also have an off white
pair that or Virgil sent us. Yes, and those are
the two shoes that I don't wear that I have,
but pretty much every other shoe I I have a
game plan for you know what I mean if you're
not so, but I would like to go through, let's
do it. Let's do it this year. Let's go into
the New York Light.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
I would really like to do that, because.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
It's so weird that you brought that up.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I don't know, because you said the organizers, and for
some reason I was like, shit, yeah, I want to organize, like.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Was the goal of yours last year.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
I mentioned it.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I definitely mentioned it, and I didn't do it like
I didn't. I didn't do like the full like manty,
like things shouldn't be stacked.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I have you.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
You're a little bit of a pack rat. I got
to get rid of something in there and I and
I can see it's because one one in the apartment
we don't have that much.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well, during the pandemic is when I went crazy on
the Jordans and I went nuts.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
You really did. And that between that and that was.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
In LA a lot of it, and then some of
them came with us, and then when we got to
New York, you really went hardcore.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
And still I am the King of Kashmir.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
But I feel like there's other I could get rid
of some of my casual and we say get rid of,
I mean donate, so somebody else could appreciate the casualty.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
So I could have like the prints of casual.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Well, that's a goal for us.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I don't need to hoard all the cashual.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
You wear a lot of it, no, but I have
a lot. I all look the same. They're like blue
and black hoodies.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, Jen Shaw b by the next wait.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah, holy, next week? No, yeah, next week. On Tuesday,
she gets out of jail. Joe, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Will we be doing our next podcast? And Jen yeah,
she'll be free, yes wow.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
And she's you know, home in time for the holidays, right.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
And she loved she loved the holidays.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yes, good for them.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
So Jen Shaw's coming out of jail.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
And we also heard Andy say, by the way that
she's not going to be returning to a Bravo show.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Which I don't think.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
She may do other reality shows, but oh, I could
see her being on Traders.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
She'd be good.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
I don't think, well, that's peak. Yeah, but I don't
think I think he meant Bravo yeah, but I mean
he produces traders.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
No, but he when he said that, he meant not
not coming back as a Housewise, there's house of Villains,
there's traders, there's other things that she can.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
She be good.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
I wonder why he said that because Teresa came back
after doing going in the clink.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, I don't know why he said that either.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Maybe because she allegedly punched somebody in the eye there
was violence.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
I don't know. I don't know why he said that
without me personally.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Again, there are victims involved with the Genshaw much, and
I'm very aware of that. I am not It's not
on the tip of my tongue or the tip of
my brain what she did. But I like all my housewives,
whether it's Jack's Taylor, whether it's the great Teresa Judas,
I believe in redemption and they are the real housewives,
and they make mistakes, they fuck up, and I just

(11:40):
believe in redemption.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
I don't know why everybody deserves a second chance.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
I think she got caught up. I don't remember the
details of what she did. Nonetheless, before we get into
her getting in TV. Let's getting back to be a mom,
getting back to.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Be a person.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Are they still married?

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Do you think yes, her and the coach are or married?

Speaker 3 (11:56):
You're still married?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Good?

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Good, she's coaching. She did her time. I think it
was thirty three months.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
She did real time.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
She didn't do boys. She didn't do We're wishing.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Her the best when she gets out.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
She was a great Real Housewife.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Of Yeah, she was. She would listen when you say that.
I thought she was pretty negative and I didn't always
like her behavior. I really didn't. I thought it was
out of control.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
And babe, we don't need to like that. I know, Well,
what's happening.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
But Stacy's might be the great Stacy I can't remember
her last name from the Real Housewives of Potomac. Might
might might be pathological.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
We don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
It might be pathological.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, you have to have people that are the antagonists
and the protagonist.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
And Stacy is a fucking lover or not.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
She makes great TV. She's wacky, she's.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Cookie, she's the thing about from me about her like
some of the other Great housewives, but her in particulars
you don't know what is going to come out of
her mouth.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
She's throwing curveballs and knuckleballs.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Sometimes she seems like she's totally a deer in headlights,
and then the other time she seems like she will
stab you in the back, like literally would like.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yes, yes, the head I agree. She's definitely hit her
stride in terms of learning to be a housewife pretty quickly.
In terms of housewives, they all like, but there's a
housewife that's gone through some stuff that you're like, eh,
but still likable. Like I would say Luanne. Luanne has
gone through things and it's like she's like Luanne, you

(13:31):
know what I mean, how could you, darling? You know,
there's that thing, But then there's that thing where you're
like they're telling lies. They're kind of like making storylines.
They're a little thirsty. They make a brand and they
give it a Nigerian name and they only have in
Nigerian ancestry. But they're like kind of copying and that, like,
I don't know, there's stuff, Listen, I.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Don't think it's not like Wendy's brand like happy and
He's not like Wheaties.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
It's it's a.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Weak heay but they've started.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
It's like Cheerios, that Coca Cola, Happy Eddie like.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
This, Like, I disagree. I think it was rude and
wrong and weird for her to give it a Nigerian name,
her little gummies, her weed gummies.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, but happy Eddie has nothing to do with Nigerian.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
I want to know how well they're a Nigerian.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Okay, but they didn't give it a Nigerian name.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
I get it. But she was like, let me see
how I can make it different than the Nigerians by
giving it a Nigerian name. It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
It's not like they have the market on weed Wendy.
And again we're wishing them luck, were wishing luck with
her upcoming situation.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
She got a situation, she got a situation, They got
a situation. And I think they just didn't appeal to
be charged separately. They wanted to be co defendants. Now
they like at first, and then they went back and
then now they're now they're asking that they can be
tried separately. And I think this is my thing, this
is what I'm thinking. It's not good because I'm thinking

(14:55):
if they get in trouble, one goes and one does
do you know what I mean, Like if they have
to go away the jail, I don't know. I'm just
saying what would be the reason of them. One may
be more culpable than the other one. I mean, he
may be in charge of the insurance and she has
nothing to do with it. So if she, you know,
if he's doing all the paperwork in their home, it
may be on him and then she if he something

(15:16):
happens to him, he could stay home with the kids.
That's what I was worried about when I read it.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
I was concerned if those one of them goes to jail,
I'm going to be really trippy me.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
I'll be upset by the way this last episode when
she was taking her mom and her sister, I think
that came over through the house because they're doing construction,
and the mom stood up in her little jeans and
her outfit and said, I, you know, I liked your money,
and your money takes good care of me.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
You know.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
I was like, what is this?

Speaker 1 (15:44):
I was really like, what eas these?

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Because she was showing.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
You could say, well you could do that, I can't
do that.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
That would be well, this is Nigeria, I guess, not
like you can do it. I wasn't talking ebonics like
so anyway, she walked around the house and like said,
she's doing you know, like this is its construction. We're
doing on our house. And the mom is like, you
have you know, Wendy has the money. And I was like,
oh boy, this is not going to age. Well, if

(16:10):
something's going I pray that this is not the case.
I really wish them. I love Wendy, I love Eddie
and their kids. Oh my gosh, the daughter's daughter. But anyway,
let's just hope again. Back to Stacy though, babe, I
think Stacy I have some concerns about her real life.

(16:30):
This last episode where we saw the the ex.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Husband, his name is Timo German.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Her husband Timo, like Timu, like the stork.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
His name is tu Wow.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Okay, well, Tiamu seems very uninterested.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
He is German.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
He's that's true. Well, then you can say that, you
can say that. No, I think they Yes, he's a
little cold. He's giving Bronwin's husband type vibe.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Different, different vibe that he's giving just German.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
He's giving angry, angry old white man.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
No, no, no, just German decent. I wouldn't say that I
saw anything angry. I saw a German. No disrespect to
the Germans. There's a certain disposition that in my fore
and few between engagements with Germans, I was like, oh
that's a German.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah, well they have a zero f given kind of.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yes, zero zero tolerance kind of vibe. Yes, like they
don't want to be involved or be wherever they are.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Interesting that that's her husband. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
He's very bizarre, but it makes sense for her because
she's really way out there.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
She's like out of touch, like then, like she's not
on this planet, Like that's her husband.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
They softened her up because her daughter's cute.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Their daughter's daughter is adorable and very smart, and seems
like really that was.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
A smart, smart call bringing in the daughter.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yes they needed her, Yes they need her, but awkward
but needed anyway. So I think Stacy, back to what
we were talking about, you're saying she's a great like
I have. She's hard time. When you give these housewives
like they're fantastic, I'm like, listen, their housewives, is that
go quest a great housewive.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I didn't say she's fucking Meryl Streep. I didn't say
she's mother Teresa. I said she's a great.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
She's right, Okay, Okay, we'll land there. I say, she's
mother Teresa b But you're just like, she's a great house.
She's entertaining as f Yes, she is, even if she
frustrates me.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
She frustrates everybody.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
I mean, I mean they really Well, it's funny because
Wendy kind of likes her.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
I don't get that.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Wendy's because she's in that first.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, but she kind of likes, like she chills with
her and all that stuff. But I feel like, because
the show is so much in its prime right now,
they all sort of you.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Got to make your alliances and you come back and
you understand what they're going through and you give them.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, they know how to play it and make it real, yes,
and let the storylines play itself out. Nonetheless, it's been
a fantastic time. We're coming to the end of twenty
twenty five, which means we're coming to close to the
other year of our anniversary, our marriage, our marriage.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Anniversary, our union, our union. And this is is how
many years as a babe.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Well, we were married in twenty sixteen, Okay, so go
back together in twenty ten Yes, we've been together a
long time.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
How many years is that? How many years have we
been married?

Speaker 3 (19:32):
This our ninth We're going to go into our ninth
ninth year, ninth year. This is our ninth year, ninth
being married. Yeah, and seven years before that were together.
We've been together a long time.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
I want to just ask you this live on Rapaports
Reality Podcast.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Are there specific?

Speaker 2 (19:50):
It's hard because we just came out of your birthday
and I was able to pull off a slight, slight.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
A slight that was That was an amazing slight, amazing surprise.
Shout out to the Shapiro.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Is your expectations like that you have for the day
of your anniversary?

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Hour? Sorry? Hour?

Speaker 3 (20:10):
I know why you said that because I call it
my anniversary.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
I know why. And I feel like I'm being walked
like a dog. So you don't want to get ahead
of it, like I know. It's like, oh, there's no.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Week, no listen, here's the thing ship we just.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Said we want to get rid of things. Why attain
jewelry is small?

Speaker 3 (20:28):
I could be stored in a beautiful safe that's compact enough,
so jewelry can always we can always wear jewelry. But
let me say this. I call it my anniversary, babe,
because I feel like you don't really care, like it's
like my birthday, Like you don't care, like it's not
a thing that you would go like it's our anniversary.
I think you would forget many years. So for me,

(20:50):
it's an important It's on our calendar, share calendar as
the best day of the year. Yes, and I mean
that because I'm one of my greatest things in life
is being married to you. Yes, so I feel that way,
but you don't really exude that by the way I do.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
No, they don't exude it the way you do. But
I do feel the same way. And as time continues
to go on, and I know sometimes you're like.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Well, what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Like, I always go, I love the way our relationship grows,
and I sometimes I've said that, you'd be like, what
the fuck?

Speaker 1 (21:25):
What did you say? It?

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Like you just showed up, like you just got here,
you know what I mean? Like, and I'm like, wait
a minute, what did you feel like seven years ago?
You're slow burn. You're also a no person before a
yes person, so I see that you're anyway. The thing
is is that, Babe, I'm still gonna call it my
anniversary until you show that this is like an important

(21:49):
day for you, and then we can it's more shared.
Like I've never given you an anniversary gift, right, so
I don't like to give you gifts anymore. It's very
hard to get you things.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
I don't need any gift.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Right, we're talking about cleaning things out.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, I don't need shit in terms of gifts or
like presence or all that stuff. And that's not even
why I brought up, because that's why I said, what
are the expectations going into this upcoming ninth year anniversary? Like,
do you have expectations? Do you have hopes, needs, desires?
You mentioned the J word jewelry? Is there anything else.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Jewelry this year? I don't need but because I got
this pretty pinky ring right that I like now jewelry? Uh,
you know, I think that if we take our little trip, there's.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Always like maybe we'll take a trip.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Maybe we'll take a trip, right, maybe we'll shop on
that trip, maybe buy a.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
New see those bags a bag?

Speaker 3 (22:45):
I need a new handbag, babe, I really those bags?

Speaker 1 (22:48):
No?

Speaker 3 (22:48):
No, I thought it was over, but I'm not because
I have my eye on something you like these bags.
I don't want. I don't want. It's not like Chanel
bag or offend. It's not bad.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
It's not a paper bag.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
It ain't it ain't a plastic bag like it's it's
it's true.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Okay, forget that. Forget What else can I have?

Speaker 1 (23:08):
I don't know, baby, what we have to we'll go.
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
If they just mentioned this is the beginning of the parties.
We are doing this podcast live from Tel Aviv. Yes,
looking outside.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
If you hear that noise, that is the Mediterranean.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
And our producer, the great Miles Davis. His name is
Miles Davis and Jordan Winter. I know they're probably like,
oh shit, that's what that is. We have had some
incredible meals. Yo, I'm gonna tell you something.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
My stomach kind of hurts. So why just because a
lot of it's like even the restaurant we went to
the other night we took the group too, it was
a lot of like there's a lot of oil and
for some reason, the oil is not good for me
right now, Okay, so my stomach is feeling a little wonky.
But yes, the food. I said it the other day.
I can't believe I made this statement to both a

(23:52):
table full of people. I'm like, I think the food
in Israel is way better than the food in New York.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I will say that there's great food in New York.
I think there's more restaurants choice that are great in
Israel than in New York.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Also, too, we don't really go out that much for
dinner in New York, like, so that to be fair,
when we're here, we're like that we're being entertained. We're entertaining.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
We're like New York is a culinary we don't explore.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
We don't explore it the way. It's not fair.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
I don't. I don't think we could say that because
we don't.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
We My wife, Kibi is a great baseline, baseline, baseline,
very good cook. It's not like it's going to be
you know, she's not reinventing the wheel, but the wheel
is made and the wheel is always made at a
I think at the.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Level I prefer to eat at home. I've said this before.
I just don't trust people and whatever. And also I'm
not a foodie. I'm a dessert I'm a true desert
carrot cake, any kind of cake, really, I mean, but
care cake is my top. I'm not a cookie person.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
But I like fucking chocolate chip cookie. You really do.
I have to to keep my I have to keep
them out of my my peripheral.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
I know everywhere we go, you get a cookie and
I decide I don't do it all the time. I'd
rather have a brownie than a cookie. But I definitely prefer.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Care cake, definitely, Babe, you know one thing that I
need to bring to our attention and the people's attention.
Heather Gate accused the Great Lisa Barlowe on the boat

(25:33):
right being the leak?

Speaker 1 (25:34):
The leak?

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Where did that go? I just disappeared?

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Is fighting words? It is?

Speaker 3 (25:40):
And then now she's all over Meredith Marx for the
incident alleged incident on the plane where she's talking to
Lisa about Brittany and she's sticking on it like she's
got some kind of moral righteousness and she's just the
voice of like all things good.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Is Heather gave the number one girl in the group,
No has she?

Speaker 3 (26:03):
I think she's anointed herself.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
I think the weight loss has gone to her head.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I am just saying, baby, that in Housewives World, yes,
in reality TV world, if you're leaking stuff to bloggers,
if you're leaking stuff to random people on social media,
and you get accused of that hardcore to your face right.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Over and over and over and over and over, they
just let it go.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
And they just let first of all, like that's not
a very forgivable like those are like, that's like a
very strong betrayal in this world it is.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Well, yeah, we look at OC, How's wives of OC,
Tamra and then Katie and they all they're getting accused of.
It makes it ugly, It makes a show not fun
to watch when you think that exists.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
But I'm where did that go?

Speaker 3 (26:58):
I don't know the leak. We're not gonna find out.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
No, that's see. If I doesn't get brought back up.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
I'm gonna have a problem with the show because I'm
gonna be like, what's going on here?

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah? I agree, because the girl.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Maybe we missed something, you know, I'm not gonna internet
miss anything. Okay, you would know better.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
We'll wait till the well, wait till the reunion. But
we didn't miss anything. But listen Heather Gaze in OG
she was there from the beginning. Yes, we've seen her growth,
We've seen her change with the Mormonism. We've we've seen
her glow up, We've seen her I interviewed her when
I was doing Wendy, whom she's always been sweet, couldn't
be nicer. But it seems that she has anointed herself

(27:41):
that she thinks she's Jax Taylor.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
I think she does. I mean, and and was telling
when she wanted to get rid of her old mattress
and came out in like a funeral black outfit, like
she's going to a funeral. I was like, you're giving,
like you're manipulating, giving that drive, You're contrived. Right there
you go, she's giving contrive And I don't like that
at all.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Me neither.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
And so when she gave contrived and came out on
the outfit and the heels and the black, you know,
funeral outfit to get rid of her marital mattress, I
was thinking to myself, Oh, this is a leaker.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
I go, ca, we are the only ones who said it.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
No, we're not the only ones who said it, sorry,
but we are the first ones who said it. And
of course, if it has something to do with me,
it's gonna be the loudest. We did say that Heather
Gay is a leaker, and I'm not letting go of
this like Monica last year, right, she was kicked off.
I mean, she was kicked off the show for a
few reas, but the main reason why she was kicked
off the show.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Was leak leaking.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
So when you're accusing somebody else, like the Great Lisa Barlowe,
of being a leaker, you got to take that seriously
and it can't just disappear. So I want to know
what the heck is going on with Salt Lake City leakgate,
and I also want to know what the heck happened
on that plane.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Now Meredith marks the Great Meredith.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Now that's weird. This is weird.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
The plain thing.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yes, it's in the apology, like she apologized, Like the
producers are like, you have to say this, and you
need to say these beats within your apology.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
When she met Brittany at the park on the bench, yes,
isn't that was like the cleanest apology and Housewives history,
it was husually. Yes, it doesn't go that smoothly. It
almost looks like Brittany was like, well, I guess that's it,
because okay, and I'm going to accept this apology and
I'm going to apologize back.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
It was weird.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
We made an agreement to it for the apology. She said,
you know, I don't know the exact wording end, and
then it was.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Just that was it.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
It's weird getting pleased.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
I think, I don't know because we have the whole cast.
Saying to her, no, no, no, you don't remember this
is how you acted for two straight hours or the
whole flight. She's like, I slept, I watched Crazy Riches
and you know, baby, and then.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
There was like what happened when you watched what was
the ending of Crazy Riches?

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Weird?

Speaker 3 (29:56):
It was very strange movie. But right, Whitney's triggered because
of her dad, and she alleges that it may be pilled.
By the way, this accusation is heavy duty to say
someone's mixing pills on a flight. There's no recording of
other passengers. I know first class may have been they
may have filled up all the first class, but there's

(30:17):
no flight attendant that said anything. I mean, I kind
of agree with Meredith. If she was that rowdy, you know,
someone would have met her at the game, and there's.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
No footage these girls on their phones and they know
when something's popping off, you have to record it.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Maybe they didn't record it because they accuse each other
of recording each other. We've had that problem. No, no,
and it had to do with Brittany.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
I don't want to be played.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
I'm loving this season, but now I'm thinking something, something's
happening where we're I just don't want to be played.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
I was thinking it last season when when they were
on I take that ride, I don't that's you. That's
the difference. So you're Pisces on a scorpions. I'm a
dumb dumb Yes, not a dumb damn. I would say
you're a little naive even you're very open to things.
And I am a Scorpio and I am suspicious and
Heather Gay last season with the end like let's look

(31:10):
at everybody's phone. This kind of stuff is like what contrived?

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Right?

Speaker 2 (31:16):
I am not hoping or wishing anything bad, but I
am hoping and wishing that a little bit of heat
is focused on Heather Gay. I feel like when any housewife,
any any any housewife gets a little bit too big
for their housewife abridges, they need.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
A little heat.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
I'm not saying anything bad. I'm just saying this leak
thing and everybody needs to get touched, That's all I'm saying.
Everybody needs to get touched and everybody.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
She was touched in the eye one year, well that
was you know what I mean. So so it's not
like we haven't seen her, you know.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Agoing now she thinks she's Jack Taylor.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
She does think she's the number one.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
She's running the whole show, and she kind she might
be running the whole show, and might be running the
whole show more than we're aware of in terms of
being the leaker. Anyway, So La City is great and
we love all the housewives. We will be doing our
next episode. Hopefully jen Shaw will be home with her
family because we always believe in redemption. We always wish

(32:22):
them the best, even if they drive us nuts. Make
sure you subscribe, rate and review this podcast wrapper Portrayali
and again, we're a good follow. We are a good
follow on social media, and our anniversary is coming up
in the next few weeks, so we will we will
sort that out.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
We will keep you guys posted.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
And I love you, babe, and I love even more
than I love you, not as much I love love
looking at you and you're smiling. You
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