RE-AIR EP 994 - Alec Baldwin (Actor) on Working with Woody Allen & Martin Scorsese, Filming Glengarry Glen Ross & Being on 30 Rock - I AM RAPAPORT: STEREO PODCAST

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
All right, I am Rapp Report Stereo podcast coming live
in director. I'm going to tell you something about today's episode.
Today's episode is with Alec Baldwin, iconic actor, and I
have to let you know we recorded this episode on
January ninth. It's a fantastic episode. We did not discuss

(00:31):
the tragedy what took place on that film set with
the cinematographer and the director being accidentally.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Shot. It's a tragedy.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Anybody who's been on a film set, television set knows
that something like that is that just a terrible, terrible mistake.
I do not support, do not like the politicization of
the situation. My sentiments, thoughts, my prayers go with the

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woman Helena Hutchinson, the DP who was accidentally shot and
passed away, along with the director who also was shot,
and everybody who was there, because I'm sure everybody has
been traumatized by the event and people's lives have been
changed forever.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
It's easy to politicize.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Scrutinize somebody like Alec Baldwin who's had a boombastic off
screen persona, but I'm sure he is just mortified and
has so much sorrow about what happened. That being said,
we did not discuss that. I didn't feel like it
was appropriate. This is a fantastic episode about acting, about

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his career, about my career, about different actors, al Pacino,
Kate Blanchett, Robert de Niro with Alec Baldwin, and once again,
my thoughts, my prayers, sentiments go out to Miss Hutchinson
and her family and I'm wishing them nothing but the
best going forward and trying to deal with their life

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that will never be the same. Enjoy this episode of
the Iron Rapaport Stereo Podcast. Very excited about this podcast,
got notes and everything with highlighted information. I am Rapaport

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Stereo podcast with a man that needs no introduction who
I've been a fan of New Yorker from Long Island,
been in everything I was going through all the films
and it's been decades. Glen Garry, Glenn Ross's work and
Girl Miami Blues with the great Jennifer Jason Lee loved
that film, Beatlejuice, The Hunt for Red Octobers, The Royal

(03:02):
Tane Bombs Departed Blue Jasmine, which is one of my favorites.
Thirty rock philanthropist, classical music lover, father of seventeen or
eighteen children. The Excellent, Curious, The Curious Alec Baldwin is
with me on the Iron Rappaport Sterio podcast.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
My Pleasure, My Pleasure? Did you see now? I haven't
been doing these things, you know what I mean? But
I see you online. I see your Instagram and I'm
always like you can hear me laughing in the other room,
because there's very few people who tell it as state
as you do.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
You know, online is a crazy why are you online?
I know why I'm online, and some people say to
me why am I online? But when I see you
online sometimes I'm like through the good, the bad, the Trump,
the pandemic, even this week, and every time, every time
you get online, it's like controversy, questioning why are you
even on social media?

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well? I think that number one we found and maybe
we found it, maybe my wife figured this out, probably
we found it on accident. Is that you wind up
thwarting paparazzi press when you're putting out a whole bin
of your own images of your kids and yourself. The
more you post online certain stuff, the less the value

(04:22):
there is to their pictures of you. Right, So they
don't unless they got my wife pregnant walking down the street,
you know, which is often but and for me, I
find Instagram can be fun in terms of and I
don't mean to do these rambles, like I would talk
about a topic, which I like doing that because it's

(04:44):
you unedited. Yes, Like I've done pieces where the most
coaching things I said, as you well know, get cut out, yes,
and I get frustrated with that. So I kind of
stopped doing that for now. But I would do these
rambles we called them, and I would speak to people
in the audience about a topic. But most of it's

(05:04):
like just think, I think it's funny with my kids
and so forth. And it's like a pr thing that
you control. I agree that you control, you.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Know, like during elections pandemics, you would get on there
and like you get into stuff and like you're a
great speaker, you have a lot to say, You're an
iconic actor. So I would be fascinated watching you do
your stuff because it's like I look at it as
performance art, you know, like I love think.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
If you can make it funny. I mean there's people
obviously who are the biggest stars in the world who
I mean, think of some movie stars who have nothing
to do with social media. Very few left. Yeah, like
Leo and people like you, they don't bother. He'll post
something to promote some environmental thing. Penguins.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
He only posts penguins and grizzly bears.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
That's it. That's fine.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
But we know you're Leonardo, we know you're on there.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, or we love Leo, but they of course. But
the thing is is that once you say you don't
want to do you know, Hanks will do little things
every now and then. And who's more of a movie
star than Hanks. But it depends on what you do.
I used to want to pontificate, yes, and I didn't
think it was pontificating, but other people will, Oh, it's pontificating.

(06:15):
It's great, pontificate with pontificate. Yeah, okay, but I kind
of slowed down on all that now, I really. But
the problem is is what forum do you communicate with
an audience through. You do TV interviews and they cut them.
You do an interview with someone and they shape it
and talk about you a certain way. I think I've

(06:35):
always said this in the past. I had one guy
when I was making a movie in New Orleans. I
had one guy from The Times, pickyun down there, who
actually was my favorite interview because he wrote exactly what
I said in the paper and he really had the
spirit of what I was trying to say. And everybody
else it's the new journalism where they're going, well, what

(06:55):
he really meant was what he seemed like was and
there's a element of psycho analyzing that they're not qualified
to do. I agree. I agree.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Your history with the paparazzi and being followed in the
marriages and the divorces and your stuff with the paparazzi
is unique, and it's been for decades. It's been for decades, right,
I mean you've this since the nineties.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah. I met my ex wife in nineteen ninety Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
So you've been dealing with it on a different level, like,
let's not just say what I think.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Is important is And again, this doesn't excuse anything. I'm
not saying this as an excuse. I think there's a
profound difference between an excuse and an explanation. And the
explanation is that nothing was ever unprovoked. If a guy
was seventy five feet away from me with a long
lens and he wanted to take my picture. I didn't care,
but if he walked up and he almost chipped my

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wife's teeth with a lens of the camera. My favorite one,
and I don't mean favorite in terms of I enjoyed this,
but what the most absurd one was this huge guy.
He had to bee like six' four probably wait about two.
Fifty he's backing up from me with a camera and
he's taking my. Pictures i'm walking in the direction and
he's walking backwards and he slips and falls and sits

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on a baby in a stroller and lands on the.
Baby he trips and lands on my neighbor's child and
sits on the. Baby AND i thought to, myself this is,
like you, know this is really not. Right and all
of the Altercations i've had with people like, that it's
always been provoked where some guy walks up and, goes you,
know you, know what are you doing with this? Woman my? Wife?

(08:29):
RIGHT i mean she's a. Whore you. Know they'll say
horrible things tobait you for that guy doesn't want the.
Confrontation what he wants is for the third guy across
the street to film the.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Confrontation, Right it's like three Card monty.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Guys it's the journalistic equivalent of three card Mont do
you find out?

Speaker 1 (08:49):
That AND i think it's good that the paparazzi they're
a little bit leery of, you WHICH i.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Think is good they should.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
BE i don't think they care Because i'm so old
now they don't think that they. CARE i really do think,
that like how you. Feel AND i don't say this
with Any i'm not celebrating this at, all but it's
like you see people. NOW i, Mean i'm old enough
now and they'll, say, OH i went and saw this
movie with so and, so And i'm, THINKING i have
no idea who that. IS i don't know who anybody is.

(09:16):
ANYMORE i, Mean i'm going to be sixty five In
april AND i don't know who anybody. Is the younger, actors,
well we get, older, yeah and we have a different it's.
Different it's Like Long. ISLAND i have with this house
On Long island and we've been out there. Forever and
WHEN i first went out, there people would say the
old timers THAT i met would, say, oh it's. Changed
AND i go home and, THINK i think it's pretty.

(09:37):
Great you, KNOW i just just gotten out. There Now
i've been out there for forty years and it's, changed,
Right your perspective changed when you get.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Older now you have on two. Watches is this A
i got to, add what is this a child?

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Cardiac this is MY ekg cardiac thing from my. Doctor,
yeah so it elects you. Know this is a brightling
that my wife got me THAT i. Love it's my, favorite,
uh the super which a lot of brightening. FANS i
have a lot of, watches As i'm sure you.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
DO i.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Don't this is the Only i'm not a.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Watch you know WHEN i stopped wearing watches WHEN i
had my first kid because it would WHEN i was
holding them and always get stuck on, them and THEN i.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
STOPPED i have a lot of, watches AND i have
some just stunning. Watches but THIS i wear because it's
AN ekg. Program and you do. That it bluetooths to
your phone and you send it to your. Doctor Because
i've been doing a lot of cardiac testing now That
i'm going to be sixty.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Five got to do, It gotta do it. Now let
me just say. This there's a couple of things besides
just your. Acting AND i said this to you the
one TIME i spoke to on the. Phone i've always
loved that you're such a, fan a fan of. Actors
you're a fan of classical, music and you're you're not
a shy. Fan you like to fan out on other.
Actors you like to talk about your experience with other

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actors that you, love that you, admire and you've done it,
openly which is something THAT i really appreciate respond. TO
i remember at one point you WERE i don't know
if you still, are but you, WERE i would think
was On. Letterman you had been high on, vegetarian vegan
and all, this like you were talking about like this
was like something you were like passionate. About AND i
think you were when On letterman Or The Tonight show

(11:11):
or some show and you were just.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
LIKE i was, like what the fuck does he?

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Doing he's just talking about eating and food and are
you still?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Vegetarian like? WHAT i. Don't, YEAH i eat, fish and
even THAT i got sick of during the like my.
TASTES i didn't HAVE, covid at LEAST i don't THINK i.
DID i didn't have any positive, tests AND i lost
my appetite for a couple of. Days one is. Chocolate
i'd always like. Chocolate WELL i don't MEAN i don't hate,
it but it's, Like i'm not a chocolate. Person i'm
a chocolate. PERSON i used to like, chocolate and, UH

(11:39):
i don't have a taste for it or ANY i was,
like really sweet things make me kind of, gag you.
KNOW i, Mean i'm trying to get my blood sugar
down always all the. Time BUT i FIND i don't
know what you're. Like BUT i find that with my,
PODCAST i do it because of my. Curiosity and you,
know we try to have famous people, musicians, actors what have,

(12:01):
you people in the, arts, writers but we also try
to have people with there's some, issue like Where i'm
going to interview a guy tomorrow who just has a
book out and he was the principal obituary writer for
The Wall Street, journal so we want to talk to.
Him we always have an array of people where the
topic is what's interesting to, me BUT i don't know

(12:22):
what you're. Like but you, KNOW i never want to
talk About like IF i go to a film, festival
this is the best, example and they, say we want
you to come and be an honoree at a film.
Festival what film of yours do you want us to
show And i'll, say Oh, GOD i don't want you
to show any of my. MOVIES i want you to
Show Red river With John. WAYNE i, MEAN i. Don't

(12:44):
let's show a great film and we'll talk about. It
BUT i don't really like to draw attention to myself
in terms of acting in my, work BECAUSE i really
believe That i've never once had a satisfying experience making
a movie my whole. Life in terms of the, work,
meaning it's like when you you're honored To scorsese, says

(13:06):
come and do The, departed come and do the. Aviator
those are small roles and you're honored to be. There
you're so appreciative of all the people you're working with
WHEN i Did glengarry and things like. That but in
terms of my own, satisfaction only sometimes in the theater
DID i feel because you can have more, time you,
know you rehearse obviously and. Make but in, FILMS i

(13:29):
can't name one Film i've ever done THAT i was fond.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Of during or the results.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Either, No, no during was the memories or of the,
people the memories of the of the. TIME i never
sit there and, say, oh we shot that scene and
watch HOW i say this. LINE i just don't even
bother with. That But i'll sit there and, go you,
Know i'll never forget talking To Jack, lemon or talking
To GEORGE. C scott or someone THAT i really deeply, admired.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Driving in the van and hearing those.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Things people come on And i'll see a scene And
i'll GO i remember that. Day that's WHEN i had
a flat tire on The Ventura freeway AND i was
late to work it, out you, know whatever it. Was
BUT i never look at films of mine and go watch,
this you know WHAT i? Mean, Like i'm but do
you digging? IT i mean it's probably changed throughout the.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Years but when you're working on a set and you're
doing a scene in a good movie or a good,
show are you struggling to satisfy? Yourself like are you
able to sort of self direct and self? Monitor Like
i've gotten to the point where AND i think some
of it is because When i've done, television directors come

(14:35):
in and out where you. Go that was good to,
Myself like BECAUSE i can't defer to a, stranger you,
KNOW i can't defer to somebody's you, know like when
as a young, actor, like was that?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Good was that?

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Good but do you struggle in between? Takes do you
like when you say nothing's ever been? Satisfying you don't
go home and GO i did WHAT i attempted my.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Goals WHEN i think about it as WHAT i should have, done,
REALLY i go home AND i GO i ALWAYS i
do WHAT i call rearview mirror. ACTING i look at
myself in the rear view, mirror And i'll go listen to, Me,
Bob i'll say the line, right AND i, go, oh
that's HOW i should have said the. Line, but like
you were, saying we all have had to become self.
Directing there's more jobs out, there there's more square mileage

(15:19):
now in the business than there are good. Directors, yes
and so when you go in we've all had to
develop that self directing. Muscle when you go on the
set and you're with a great director Like marty or
somebody like, that you just stand there and you know
he's got it worked. Out he's got it worked. Out
he knows what he wants to see and he knows
the rhythm of. It say that line, faster come in,

(15:41):
quicker do? This do? That you welcome, that but with
a lot of other. People now you go in and
you've made up my age here there Saying i've made
more movies than everybody on this. Set i know more
about acting than everybody on this. Set Unless i'm with
somebody who's one of the, greats AND i just you
have to Be it's, tough do You i'd rather be, directed.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
And what do you makes a great?

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Director you've worked With Woody, allen WHO i worked with
who is director list almost and it's almost actor. Proof
i've never worked With, scorsese the director you, Loved Woody Spike,
Lee Tony scott for different, Reasons nora. E fron for different.
Reasons But i've never all those directors THAT i worked.

(16:28):
With it wasn't the, direction it was the confidence they
gave you or the belief they gave. You even With Woody,
allen where you do one or two takes and you go,
well at, first it was like what the fuck you,
like you, Know i've been practicing this for six, months
like you, know but then you, know, well he knows
he's got, it even though you want to keep going.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Because you're having such a good.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Time, Yeah Like Nora, EFRON i would ask her, question she'd,
GO i don't, know but let's figure it out. Later Tony,
scott similar, Thing Spike lee and and you shit With.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Tony tony's got true.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Romance AND i was really, YOUNG i MEAN i was
twenty four and, impress you. KNOW i was, like you,
know and on the Sets Christopher, Walken Val kilmer And Christian,
leaner And i'm.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Like what the big? People you?

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Know but he made me feel, like you, Know i'm
trying to act or shit like. This he, goes that's,
good that's not, good but keep asking me. Questions and
that made me feel like all. Right but you know
when people ask me non actors like what is a?
Director i've never had like a magic sauce or somebody
sort of wave a magic wand and you're, like, oh that's.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
It look for, you what is a good? Director, WELL
i mean one thing that comes to mind that they're
in reference to what you said THAT i. Thought what
was interesting WAS i had a director once say to,
me And i'll never forget, This and it was not
in the beginning of my, career was later in my,
career and he said to, me we will do a
couple more. Takes AND i said that maybe we're like

(17:47):
four or five takes and he. Goes he, GOES i
think we got, it AND i know that everybody's in
a hurry time why they want to move? On and
if they got? It AND i, go can we do
one or two more? Takes he, goes, yeah he, goes
BUT i just want you to keep in, mind he,
goes sometimes you knock the guy out in the first.
Round sometimes you knock him out in the tenth. Round he,
goes what does it? Matter you knocked him, Out that's
all that. Matters you probably would rather knock him out

(18:10):
in the first or the second round to get, it
you know WHAT i? Mean he, Said you, know sometimes
we get it, early, right and sometimes we. Don't And
i'll tell. You AND i trusted him once he said.
THAT i trusted that he was observing things in a
way THAT i could. Appreciate and for, me a good
director is somebody who they make you see the movie

(18:32):
like a. SYMPHONY a symphony has its highs and. Lows
it's adagios and it's pitsicados and what have. You AND
i want someone who they're going to tell me what
AM i in their? Movie like an ingredient in a.
SALAD i don't need to come in here and jerk
off and make myself look powerful and clever and all

(18:52):
these other. Things what AM i in your? Movie and
tell me That one of the THINGS i do now
and have for the last Several i'll, say tell me
the story of the. Movie tell me about your movie
like it's a. Story and you'd be surprised how many
directors can't do. That it's a good. Question but then
there's ones who will tell it to, Me, well this
is a story about a guy or a woman or,

(19:13):
whatever AND i only want to come in and give
you what you need in the movie and resist that
temptation to want to pull focus and do too. Much you, Know, podcast.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
You've worked With woody on a couple of times throughout the,
years smaller. Parts do you enjoy when he would give
you only your scenes in the?

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Script, WELL i. Didn't you. Know, listen when you work With,
woody you're working with somebody Who we were In italy
for the opening of To rome With love With Jesse
eisenberg And Greta gerwig And Elliott. Page we were there
and the, press The italian press really only wanted to
talk To, woody so all of us are on a

(20:14):
dais and they'd, say, okay you and the reporter would,
go wood you have a question for The woody and
they'd ask what You finally they asked us a, question
what does this mean to? You you, know to work With?
Woody AND i had worked with him in this Movie
Alice yes with me years, ago AND i, said you,
know the thing About woody is is that as a,

(20:35):
star as a comedic, performer as a movie, star as a, writer,
producer what have? YOU i, Said the thing that you
got to remember is that first and foremost wood he
is a. Writer and at the corner of my ae at
the end of the, tip you Saw woody nod Like
that's the. THING i think he takes the greatest pride
in that he writes these, movies these movies which are
Like i'm not joking WHEN i, say If i'm really,

(20:58):
depressed like IF i can't get out of, bed and
which those days are not often with seven, children but
If i'm really, down THEN i really don't feel like
the world is What i'd like it to. BE i
Watched Broadway Danny, rose AND i feel, Great i'm on my,
feet you know WHAT i? MEAN i, mean like the
brilliance of that writing and the way he timed that

(21:18):
movie and with, him it's. Ridiculous, Yeah AND i mean
it's like with, him that film particularly is.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Ridiculous it's so goddamn good, cinematically the, writing the, blocking the,
cinematography the, editing the way he sets up the shots.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
THAT i was just talking about. IT i watched maybe six.
HOURS i watched that movie all the, time fawning over.
IT i watched it with all the. Time who's the cheese?
Eater we May god forgive Me Bonnie? Done then they
cut back to the guys at the Cafe Bonnie. Done
you remember he was the stuttering Ventriloquist. SODANNY i mean

(21:56):
that whole, SEQUENCE i am just crying, laughing.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
And the mobsters in the mom faces that, like you,
know making it's one of the first ones where they
made mobsters.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Funny, yeah you.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Know it came with a time where like you, know
like he's like sort of comedic mobs.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Are and, Aiies johnny are you in? Aries he says
to them up on the. Bout. YEAH i, mean but
the thing is is that it's, like what's something that
can or movies that you can go back to that
really just resonate for. YOU i, MEAN i love old.
Movies When Bob osborne was, alive he had me come
down and do a lot of this guest programming with
him On Turner Classic. MOVIES i tell you it was

(22:30):
one of the greatest times of my. LIFE i Love.
Bob he was the loveliest guy in this. Business he
invited me to come down there and do three rounds of.
That eventually the producers were, like get him out of,
here you, know we know enough of. Him BUT i
came down and did it With bob three, times and
we did the wrap rounds for The, essentials and you,
know they'd send me the discs and they'd, say you,

(22:51):
know watch these. Movies and some of THEM i didn't have,
to like half of them or. MORE i didn't have
to Because i'd seen him. Already and THEN i watched
some THAT i Didn't i'd never seen. Before AND i
think people have forgotten movies that can actually reach inside of,
you you, KNOW i, mean it really affect. YOU i.
AGREE i think that more and more movies now are
as just.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Escape you, know AND i think movies in general Are
it's a really sad you.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
KNOW i was WATCHING tutsi this.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Weekend you, Know i'm, like this is not even close
to being ever made ever, Again like why would this ever?
Be you, know it's never going to be made. Again
it'd be some, weird, obscure tiny movie that maybe would.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Make it To sundance and do well At. Sundance and
this is a.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Baby it wouldn't get. Made it wouldn't get. Made that
have to be.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Appropriation oh all of, it, yeah the whole, thing but
just the kind of, movie the way it was. SHOT
i know you're a fan Of, scorsese and it's funny
because you mentioned THE Tnt classic movies that was almost
like a podcast before, podcasts and that's one of the
things WHERE i was, like and this, is you, know
in the nineties when you're a, star but you're talking about,
films WHICH i really love that AND i respect. THAT

(23:58):
i know you're a. Scorse oh, YEAH i know you
were a fan before you started working as an. Actor,
yes what was your departed, experience your aviator? Experience what
is it like being on set With Martin scorsese as
a director and how do you separate fan and now
we're working.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Together, WELL i did a lot of even though it
wasn't necessarily applicable to the to the. SHOOTING i did
a lot of research for The aviator Because Juan tripp
president AND i, guess the founder of PAN. Am his
family lived In East. Hampton his Daughter, betsy who was

(24:39):
married to this. Guy her name Was Betsy, devecki friends
of mine Neew. Or she was, older AND i got
connected with her and WHEN i sat and had lunch
with her and talked to her for a very long
time about her, dad and she described what he was
like and and she said to, me at one, point you,
know a very very elegant. Woman and she, said she, goes,

(25:00):
WELL i see where You're my dad is going to
say that horrible word BECAUSE i say fuck at one,
point and she, GOES i see he's going to say
that horrible. Word she his dad would never say that.
Word he would never say that. Word SO i called
Up marty AND i, GO i don't know what to.
Say but she said that he probably wouldn't say that.
Word AND i, said long, pause And marty, GOES i

(25:23):
need you to say. Fuck it's like but you AND
i love. That like here's the. Clarity here's WHAT i
want you to. Do this is my. Movie and then
when we Did, aviator that's. Cool we shot the scenes
Very we did the one scene in the, restaurant but
the stuff Where i'm out the door And i'm kind
of Taunting, leo we shot those very quickly because it

(25:45):
was a whole day Of. Leo remember the, Milk remember the,
Milk remember the? Milk you, Know leo naked in the
other room with the bottles of piss. Everywhere, Yeah and
they wanted to get this as efficiently as, possible AND
i understood the to move on to number one on
the call sheet and Get leo cracking up inside that.
Room so we did, that and then on The, DEPARTED

(26:07):
i just remember it was like a lot of, testosterone
you know WHAT i. Mean wahlberg And matt And leo
and all these guys. There AND i didn't have any
scenes With, jack BUT i Remember marty was in really good.
SPIRITS i think he was excited to make that. Movie,
oh very.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Excited is he in complete control of this?

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Set, like is he very clear on what he's doing
or is he finding it as he's going shot to.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
SHOT i would imagine other people who have a more
profound history with, him it's, different, Right i'm sure that
he And bob have a different you know thing And
peshi And i'm sure and When leo, now Because leo's
his muse. Now BUT i think that when you were
working with him and the guys that know what they,
Want mike Nichols i had that small part and working,

(26:53):
girl you just stand there and just you, know say, sir, yes,
sir you know because they, know. Right but when you're
with other guys who sit there and, go what do
you think how the scene? Shod that's when you're in.
Trouble well you have to develop that muscle to think
about that and to have some answer to that.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Eventually but what do you say to? That because that
makes me? Nervous what do you think how the scene should?

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Go on the basis that when you're in a scene
with other, people you're being asked to give an, opinion
and then if the director isn't going to take, control
they're trying to get you to appeal to the other
actor and sell them on your. Idea if you're working
with another actor who doesn't want that responsibility to, say

(27:35):
and you're sitting there, going, WELL i thought i'd walk,
in BUT i wouldn't sit down BECAUSE i want to
feel there's a certain. Tension then that tension gets relieved
when you say blah blah. Blah THEN i, say you,
know whatever your thing, is and you're talking about the,
scene you got to sell the director and the OTHER
i like when the director walks in and, Goes Rob,
reiner come, in sit, down turn sit you, know get

(27:57):
the bottle of, water Say. Charlie he's got a little worked.
Out and he just says to you and you, say,
great tell me what movie you want me to make?
Right Because i'm not gonna cut the. Movie i'm not
making the movie. Right and in the theater you can
rehearse and you're working with if it's a, revival you're
working with material that works. Well and in the theater
you can have MORE i, mean once you open especially

(28:21):
and the director is, gone you can have a little
bit more nuance of. Whatever but in, movies the rule
to remember is you're not making the. Movie he's or
she they're making the movie, right, director and you need
to just say what CAN i give you? Right because
IF i don't give you what you need and you
go into the cutting, room you, know then everybody's. MISERABLE i.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Agree you work with so many. PEOPLE i want to
play a game of what makes them? Great, Okay i'm
gonna name different, actors AND i want you to say
what makes them? Great Blue jasmine is really one of
my favorite films and a ridiculous, performance ridiculous, Character the
writing and the performance From blue Jabs Kate.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Blanchett what Makes Kate blanchet? Green she's.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Indefatigable she just has energy to. Spare she's got no self.
Pity she's NOT i, mean there are men and WOMEN
i work with who not, MANY i don't want to
say not, many who were very indulgent and it's all
like my, hair and they're in the makeup trailer for
a long time and they get on the set and
they touch them up, again and everything is like like

(29:23):
we're posing for a still, camera like for. Photography And
kate is somebody who was like fuck. That she went
out in the hallway and drank like two espressos and
she'd come back in the room and we had to
do this fight. Scene and she's just really really, tough
and she's really really blazingly, talented but she really really
just had bottomless. Energy she could do take after take aftery're. Taking,

(29:47):
YEAH i thought she was gonna clock me right in
the face one, scene AND i was, like go right,
AHEAD i don't give a. Shit this is amazing watching
you do.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
This SO i love, That, Yeah, DAN i love that so.
Much Powerful Ed? Harris what makes him?

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Great, WELL i Think ed is someone who has the
great blessing of the great movie stars where he has
the facial. Symmetry ed's, face the mask of his face
pulls you. In he's so compelling looking those big watery
blue eyes of his and that real cowboy you, know,

(30:20):
tough square jaw. Thing and he can dial UP i
don't want to say, menace but an aggression and he
can dial it down and be very sweet as. Well
so we can DO i always call this my, phrases
the sweet and. Sour he can do the sweet and.
Sour and a lot of it has to do from
most movie stars THAT i can recall the ones that

(30:42):
are the most, memorable the people who you can see
into their. Eyes they used to say that if you
were working with an actor who you couldn't see into their,
eyes they play a. Villain m that the hero always
had to be someone you could read them and look
into their. Soul And ed just has that amazing face of,
his you know WHAT i, mean and always has And

(31:02):
i've always been jealous of him because he's guys just
got this enigmatic face all the. TIME i love.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
That Meryl, streep Who i'm sure you were a fan
of before you started working as a film. Actor you
got to work with, her play with. Her what MAKES
i mean if you could even get into what.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
That's tough because there's so many things to. Say but
from my, EXPERIENCE i would say that with, her she
doesn't let anything throw. Her she doesn't get upset about.
Anything she doesn't allow, anything this is just my opinion
to blow her sales off the course that she's, on
if the scene isn't going the way the director wants

(31:40):
or the you, know whatever is happening in the scene
or off the set or what have, you she comes
on the set and she is, gracious and she is
wise and she's. GENEROUS i, mean she's all the things
you'd want a legendary actor or actress to be toward
you if you weren't really at their level and you were.

(32:02):
Intimidated because WHEN i did the movie with. Her the
Director Nancy meyer said to, me she's nine years older than,
you and the men in the movie business have no
problem dating and dialing down the ages of their leading
ladies some twenty twenty five. Years it's, ridiculous she, said

(32:23):
the men do. That why doesn't it's complicated as the
movie and she, said how do you feel about? THAT i, said,
LISTEN i, said my character doesn't want to have sex
with his, wife his ex. Wife he's still in love
with his ex. Wife there's a big. Difference And merrill
is a very easy person to fall in love. With
so when we did the, movie it didn't make any

(32:44):
difference to me about age and. Whatever And merrill is
a very easy person to fall in love. With, yes he's,
amazing great.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Person WHAT i love this, film smaller Film Miami, blues
the Great Jennifer Jason.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Lee.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah what makes her?

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Great fearless and no self, consciousness and you know she
was there were many things THAT i liked about. Her and,
SUBTLETY i mean she was she is a master of
subtlety and did all these little small things and with
facially and what have. You but she was. Fearless like one,
time we're doing a scene AND i have to have

(33:20):
sex with her or just you see the early blushes of,
that And i'll never Beget she turned to. ME i
didn't know, her and she, goes, now you can do
anything you want to me in the. Scene and when
they say, cut you have to. Stop but, like whatever
impulse you have to, do as long as you don't hurt.
Me she, goes whatever impulse you have to do. Something she,
goes you can do it in the. Scene but when

(33:42):
they say, cut you. Stop she's, like you, understand And
i'm like And i'm, like, yeah oh, yeah, yeah, YEAH i.
Understand and that's an Interesting she was very VERY i
don't want to just say. Professional she's very. WISE i.
Agree he's a woman that showed up on the set
of a. Film she was very, young and you, know

(34:04):
it's like what Made Brando. Brando brando figured it out
while he still had the sheen of his youth and his.
Beauty they handed him A rubik's cube that meant the
highest level of virtuasac film, acting and he, went it's
it's it's it and he, went you mean like, this
and everybody was, like oh my. God and he figured

(34:25):
it out so young that where were the challenges for
him later, on which is why he became so. Petulant,
yeah And jennifer was kind of the same Way Kristin
Stewart Christus. STUART i MEAN i turned to her when
we Did Still, alice AND i made a fool of
myself AND i said to, her we're doing a scene
AND i, go you remind me Of Marlon. Brando she

(34:46):
looks at, me like, what AND i, GO i, SAID
i have no idea what you're going to? Do take
to take to, Take and the variety wasn't that wide,
ranging but she would do little things and little, things
AND i think That Kristin stewart is a great. ACTRESS
i do.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Too are you a take to take person in terms
of try, this try, that try, this try, that or.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Are you like this is this sort of?

Speaker 3 (35:08):
PARAMETER i mean there's a little, tries but, like are
you LIKE i want to do one?

Speaker 1 (35:11):
LOUD i want to do one not, LOUD i want
to do one, SOFT i want to do one.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Angry where do you? APPROACH i think what it comes
down to for me is that WHEN i see the
movie and if the director agrees with, me there's a
music to it there's a. Rhythm if the scene, Says
jack drives up in a, car gets out of the,
car goes into the, bank let's just shoot the fucking shot.
Twice get out of the, car go go in to the,
bank and let's move. On because we can't love every.

(35:36):
Scene and then when you're in the scenes with people
that you are, more they're a little bit more intense
and more. LAYERED i like. TO i, MEAN i have
a silly, rule especially IF i work with younger, actors
WHERE i, say let's do it, slow, medium and fast
in terms of the. Pace because there are Scenes i've

(35:56):
SEEN i can't quantify how, many but there are Scenes
i've seen in films That i've done where they cut
the scene because you can't speed up the energy of
the scene in. Editing interesting if people are doing the
scene and they're kind of, like you know a lot
of young actors do. This. Ready see you AND i
do a scene and they, go what time is?

Speaker 5 (36:16):
It it's, uh it's five to.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Eleven did you say five to? Eleven, no now it's
four to. ELEVEN i know what you, mean and you
want to. Go you got to energize the, scene, right
because you know what's going to. Happen they're going to
cut the scene right if it sits. Different SO i
always see if, people let's pace it. Up that's. Smart,
up pace it, up pace it. Up that's. Smart we'll

(36:40):
have a better chance of being in the. MOVIE i got.
You that's my. Opinion that's. Smart that's.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Smart you didn't get to work with them In. Glengarry
what makes Al pacino? Great you've spoken about, Them you've
done impressions of. Them you're a fan of.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
His, passion, passion he, says even to this, day even
to this. Day we did the thing for the, studio
The Actor's. Studio it's their seventy fifth, year their anniversary last,
year and now the celebration and the programming to celebrate
the studios seventy fifth anniversary overlaps this, year this past

(37:15):
fall into next, spring this, spring and they had they
Showed Dog day afternoon at some famous movie theater THAT i.
Forgot it's up In harlem or way. Uptown it's like
up one hundred and thirty Fifth, street and this theater is,
Gigantic like, see it's LIKE i don't know. Where it
was like two thousand, people, wow twenty two hundred. People
it's like a big music hall or. WHATEVER i don't

(37:36):
know the name of, it BUT i think it's a
it's a it's a movie theater because they're screening the.
Film they Showed Dog. Day places. Packed now many people
BOUGHT vip tickets and to benefit the studio to go
to a little party, afterwards you, know backstage and, then
but the bulk of the people, there or the overwhelming
majority of people, there are there to watch the. MOVIE
i mean they fill a theater way uptown In New

(37:58):
york in the dead of, winter was pretty, cold and
Showed Dog day, afternoon and THEN i Interview al afterward on.
Stage we come out and we do a LITTLE q AND.
A AND i, mean you, know people are like pissing their,
pants you, know they just love. Him al is somebody
WHO i, Mean i've said this, before AND i feel
bad to repeat, this but it's the only THING i

(38:20):
can think, of and that IS i said other. ACTORS
i said this at The Lincoln center tribute To, AL i,
said other. Actors when the movie's, over you're. Done they've
made you, laugh they've scared, you they've thrilled, you they've terrified.
You they've made you fall in. Love they've done all
these things and they're very, funny or they're very, charming

(38:41):
or they're very, sexy what have. You but when the movie's,
over you're done with. Them you're ready to get out
of the. THEATER i said With, al you're never done
when the movie. Ends you want to go, no, no, no,
no you know you want. More there's a humanity To,
al there's a sensuality to OUR i, Mean al has,
everything and he still Loves he got up there and

(39:05):
he was talking to the audience and he would make
these comments and you could just tell he still loves,
acting loves, it loves, it loves.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
It what did you think rewatching Dog?

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Day how sad it was That kazal. Died kaz was.
GREAT i, mean Kaz al was so. Great he was so.
Great you know a Deer, hunter you know Here hunter
is a movie that's really tough to. Watch it's a tough.
Movie it's a tough to. Watch but the people who Like,
bob you know this is this and you look At

(39:38):
bob and you're, like you, KNOW.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
I was gonna pivot To. Bob you got to Interview
bob on YOUR.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Nbc show THAT Abc, SHOW Abc. Show you Love bob
LIKE i Love.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Bob you got to work With bob as a.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Director just you were, GONNA i, interrupted you Like, bob
talk to me About bob break. Down Bob DeNiro is an.
Actor it's when you interviewed. Him were you able to
get BECAUSE i got to be, Honest, alec when you
got to INTERVIEW i was jealous BECAUSE i was, LIKE
i want to, interview But i've yet to see someone
get and you were.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Trying i've yet to see him and likes to talk about.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
HIM i get him on the. Phone THEN i. Go he,
goes you want me to do this show of? Yours?
Okay and he said the people told me it's an.
Hour it's an. Hour what are we going to talk
about for an? Hour AND i like kind of froze
AND i, said, WELL i thought we would start with
your movie. Career maybe that would take us through an.

(40:34):
Hour he was, like you're very, Funny, Alec you're very.
Funny and he comes and WHAT i THINK i said
to him THAT i really meant and he was very
kind about this and accepted this WAS i, said do
you realize how much you mean to other? PEOPLE i,
said people come to acting as a fan of other people's.
Acting when you love, ACTING i don't know one. PERSON

(41:00):
i don't know one person who came into this business
in film AND. Tv and of, course the array can be.
Anything it could be The Dick Van Dyke. Show it
could Be Raging, bull you don't give a. Shit it
can be, friends it can be A. Superman people come
into the business and they spent significant parts of their
life appreciating other people and watching other people and having

(41:23):
borderline obsessions with other. People how many times HAVE i
Watched Raging? Bull how many times HAVE i Watched The?
Godfather how many times HAVE i Watched? Psycho you know?
Whatever and you just can't get. Over you watch the
acting at the highest, level and you're sitting there, going,
OH i hope one DAY i have even an opportunity
now That i'm going to do, it BUT i even

(41:44):
have a chance to do something even close to. That
AND i said To bob and the talk, SHOW i,
said do you realize what you mean to other? People
what they've seen you and watched you in all these?
Films do the greatest, acting you, know among the top twenty,
five thirty fifty men or? Whatever and then women are
in a different category as, well and he kind of

(42:07):
he was, like, oh thank, you thank, you thank, you
BUT i really meant, it you. Know it's like Al Al, Nicholson.
DUSTIN i, MEAN i could go on and, On Kitel,
Newman Baby redford of that. GENERATION i Know i'm leaving.
Outs robert wal just turned ninety. Two, Duval Gene, Hackman,

(42:30):
duval will you always say the greatest performance in the
movie is when he played Bou, bradley because he breaks your.
Heart he doesn't have one, line he doesn't say one,
line not. One and there's the same guy who PULSES i,
Mean deval is kind of, amazing who pulses this sensitivity
and this suffering and plays that character so beautifully one

(42:52):
of his first film. Roles and that's the guy on
the beach, going you, know Playing kilgore In. APOCALYPSE i
mean that rain of WHAT i call. Disposition is the
character powerful in the, World is the character strong in the.
World look At Orson wells And Citizen, kane how commanding

(43:12):
and how fascile he, is and how amazingly sharp he
is and. Seamless and then you see someone play a
part Like duval And i'm always looking for people who
they play characters with that character is strong and confident and,
fearless and then someone who's struggling and in a lot of,

(43:33):
pain and can they do both those?

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Things, yeah and he seemed BECAUSE i was really thinking
about his performances the other day WHEN i saw he
turned ninety. TWO i, mean that character In Apocalypse, now
it could have been a. Joke you, know his character
in The Great Santini The, apostle which he acted and directed.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
And which is.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Insane, yeah you never saw him, acting and these are.
Characters it's like he's an. Actor you just didn't see.
Acting it's almost one of those people who, imagine like people, go,
oh you're not acting when you're, acting which is a
compliment also in a disrespect because you don't understand the
craftsmanship because it's. Seamless With Robert, DEVALL i just love

(44:11):
him so much and such an appreciated that he's, alive
you know WHAT i. MEAN i don't know if he's
making films.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Anymore, Oh daniel Day lewis you, KNOW i, MEAN i,
mean he to me is somebody who it's, LIKE i,
Mean i'm joking WHEN i say, this BUT i always
felt Like spielberg And Tony kushner And daniel Day lewis
get together to Do, lincoln and whatever source, material there
was still, photographs written accounts of How lincoln, behaved audio.

(44:43):
RECORDINGS i think that maybe there were. SOME i don't
think there was any film footage of. Him AND i
See daniel Day lewis as somebody who, Says, Okay i'm
going to survey all of this, material but in the,
End i'm going to come up with, character and That's lincoln,
right and for all eternity in people's, minds that will

(45:06):
Be lincoln. Right i'm going to create The lincoln that's
going to be The lincoln right from, now as opposed
To Raymond massey who did it early on years. Ago
And i've nothing wrong with his, performance BUT i think
that you see guys who just by the sheer force
of their. Talent you, know, podcast.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
What actors do you remember throughout the, Year AND i
MEAN i just named a.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
FEW i mean you've.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Worked with there's you, know they do six degrees Of Kevin,
bacon but you're at a point where it could be
six degrees Of Alec. Boltman of people that you've worked,
with what actors do you remember throughout the. Years it
could be, recent it could be when you were, younger
where you're in a scene you're, like they're so good
just for a. MOMENT i meant during a take or
a rehearsal or a close up where you.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Go they kind of take you out of it and
you're watching.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
IT i was going to do a movie and we
went and did a reading of the script at a
hotel in la and De niro was going to do the,
movie and he dropped out because he thought he wasn't
right for the, part because the guy was kind of very.
WASPY i did this, Movie The edge With Tony, hopkins
which was originally Called, bookworm and it was much more
baroque and much more. Psychological they turned it into like

(46:26):
an action, film you, know an adventure film with the
bear and. Everything but when they called, ME i was
on vacation with my ex wife and they called me
and they Said Tony hopkins is going to do the.
MOVIE i crossed her to cry AND i, thought oh my.
God AND i showed up there to go to work
and the, movie you, know had a lot of things
wrong with, it AND i was not wild about how

(46:47):
it turned. Out BUT i got to do this movie
With Tony, hopkins AND i was so that was the
greatest Experience i've ever had shooting a movie because it
was a lead. Role you, know IF i Do, bob's
IF i do The Good, shepherd IF i Do Good
shepherd With. Bob you, know that was just in and
out in a couple of. Weeks And marty and people like,
That nichols smaller, Roles but when you play a lead

(47:09):
role with somebody who you really. Like Harold, becker who
Did see Of love and he did other great. Films.
Taps we did this Movie, malice which was this very
tepid kind of thriller with, Me Bill pullman And Nicole.
Kidman BUT i learned a lot From. Harold he was.
Great he was really very actor. Friendly so BUT i

(47:31):
must say that the time we spent up In canada
Shooting The edge With, tony that was probably the greatest
Experience i've ever. Had that's.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Awesome when you Did Glengarry Glenn, ross you showed up one.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Day two days we. Shot, yeah we, rehearsed and then
we came back AND i shot it over the course
of two. Days it might have been two and a.
HALF i don't. Remember it was two days to cover.
Everybody you, know the film's been, quoted it's sort of.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Been it's an iconic, film iconic, scene the, lines the.
Actors when you look back at that, time what do you.
Remember what do you take away from that experience and
the way you approached that. Scene would you approach it differently?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Now? Nine why maybe you tone it down and maybe
you just a click meaning he said to Me, Foley he,
said this is like the. Scene and BECAUSE i was
very uncomfortable doing the scene with these, guys, WELL i
admired all of, them AND i had to be so
abusive to. Them AND i called Up mammont on the

(48:34):
phone AND i, said you won The Pulitzer prize for the.
Play why do you feel the need to amend the?
PLAY i, said you want it's the big. Prize he.
Said none of these men have a criminal, nature and
they're about to commit a, crime AND i need someone
to come in there and ratchet everything a little tighter for,
them to make everything more taut and difficult for them

(48:55):
so that they will. Commit so you come in and
your scene is going to be to incite them to
commit a. Crime and THEN i, said oh, God i've you.
Know when it came time to shoot the, Scene foley,
said it's like that scene In patent when he slaps
the guy in the tent who got shell shock and he,
says you call yourself a. Soldier And foley said to,

(49:16):
me we're going to do call this the you call
yourself a salesman. Scene he's, like you're coming down. Here
it's for their own. Good you're not doing this to be.
Mean this is for their own. Good they need this
or they're going to be. Dead we're in battle, here
it's a. War you go out that, door you got to.
Sell and he goes AND i need you to crack
all of them right across the face as hard as
you can and get him to snap the fuck out of.

(49:38):
It AND i literally remember electricity going through my body
BECAUSE i needed someone to explain to. ME i call it,
authorization what authorizes me to do the scene that? Way
and when he told me, THAT i was, like, Okay i'm,
ready AND i got up and we go and it
was not, easy BECAUSE i, mean you have to say
all these horrible things to. Them but the THING i

(50:01):
remember most has nothing to do with. That the THING
i remember most was that was one of the Earlier
i'd done a, few but not, many of the great
monastic cinematographers in the. Business one of the greatest joys
of making films is to work with great CINEMATA i
worked with Ball, house With, NICHOLS i worked With Bob.

(50:24):
RICHARDSON i worked With don McAlpine on The, edge AND
i worked With wan ruiz A chia who Photographed glengarry
and he's just.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Unbelievable explain to non actors why it's great to work
with a great cinematographer as.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Well you Watch glengarry and it's like a, painting you,
know with all the black and white kind of it's a,
film it's in, color and sometimes you feel like you're
being seduced into it being black and. White John tole
one OF i think there's only two. Men toll is.
ONE i think there's one. MORE i can't remember who
won The oscar for cinematography and back to back. YEARS

(51:02):
i think he wanted For Brave, heart and then he
went ran it For legends of The. FALL i believe
he wanted from one of those. MOVIES i know he
won For Brave, Braveheart No Brave, heart he, did and
then the year before that he Did legends of The.
FALL i think Not river runs through. It it's Either
river runs through it Or legends of The. Fall so
he won The oscar two years in a. Row and
you're with this guy and you're, like and when you

(51:25):
when you? Shoot could they're making this is a. Movie,
yeah we're making a. Movie, yeah someone's gonna put the
camera on you and do. It and this guy who
Shot Glen, garry he just was like all the great
dp's they never transmit any. Tension they like walk up
to you and they, go COULD i ask you a?
Question could you please just? Lean when he took you

(51:49):
lean this, way just the little. Bit AND i go
there and we line up AND i, go you mean
like this he's like he's so, Good and you're, Like
i'm here to put this on, film. Right so when
you have guys that are really and women who are
really really strong, cinematographers, god you feel so. Confident look

(52:12):
it's gonna look, good you.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Know and so being on the set cursing At Jack,
lemon who must have been a fucking a sweet. Guy
yeah you're cursing it Ed, harris you're cursing At Alan
arkin Hor are you having?

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Fun are they having? No? No, no, no no. No you,
know you play these characters that are these tough. CHARACTERS i,
said WHEN i Did streetcar On, BROADWAY i get into
like the sixth week of. IT i want to, GO
i want to stay To. Blanche why don't we sit,
down have a Drink blanch and work everything? Out and,
like you get tired of, being you, know at that.
Level and WHEN i do movies where you have to

(52:46):
kind of lose it or you're cruel in some, way
it's never. Fun never. Fun you know what's fun is
when you do like when we did Thirty. Rock that
was fun because those people were so creative And tina's
so unique her talent as a, writer And Robert carlock
and their whole stable of writers That i'd come to
work and they were like they'd hand us the script

(53:09):
in the morning and we'd be in makeup and we're
going to do the read through for the network that.
Afternoon they would pipe us To burbank from a room
we go into a conference room and so we'd take
lunch on A wednesday and do the read through and
they'd hit me the script in the, morning And i'd,
Say i'd walk up To Robert carlock And i'd, say
you want me to play This Patty duke thing with?

(53:31):
Myself and the other side of it Is i'm a
Gay mexican soap opera. Star And Robert carlock would always like,
say it's a big. SWING i know it's a big,
swing but we have faith in. You we believe in.
You he was always, like you, know giving me the.
Business but that was fun because they were so fucking.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Funny did the speed of it throw you off at?
First the speed of? Television oh, no they knew.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Well the speed of. Shooting, yes it was a lot of.
WORK i, Mean i'm not, complaining and we were. Compensated
but it's, like, uh we had a, line OR i
had a line with, them which was you give the
sea and the stick to the finish. Line like in horse.
Racing you you don't, pause Don't you got to just
go let the, audience our audience will keep up with.

(54:13):
Us AND i thought it was genuinely, funny as opposed
to so many films AND tv SHOWS i see now
that are more cute than. FUNNY i.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Agree WHEN i was talking on the. Phone you gave
me a very big. COMPLIMENT i don't even know if
you remember, it but it stuck with. Me you said
you called me The Lawrence olivier a Fuck AND i
consider you one of the great cursors in cinematic, history
along with the Great Dennis, farina the late Great Dennis Rena,
fina of, Course Bob DeNiro Of Frank Vincent's Joe, Pesci Alec,

(54:45):
baldwin the great Al. Pacino SO i wanted to have
a funk off with, you, okay AND i wrote some
lines down And i'll say, them and THEN i wanted
you to say them as, well and we could go
back and forth a, little almost like an, actor you,
know warm up a. Routine you're it's, yes some misner.
Stuff fuck, You Michael, Rappaport.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Fuck, You Michael, Rapperport fuck, You Michael. Rappaport fuck, You Michael.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Rapperport fuck, You Michael. Rappaport fuck, You Michael.

Speaker 5 (55:18):
Rapperport you motherfucker you.

Speaker 6 (55:23):
You motherfucker, you you motherfucker you you motherfucker, you.

Speaker 5 (55:34):
You motherfucker, you.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
You mother fucker.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
You you are a. Cocksucker you are a. Cocksucker you're a.
Cocksucker you're a.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Cocksucker you're a. Cocksucker you're a. Cocksucker did we get? It,
Oh i'm in. Heaven i'm almost. Done NOW i want
to ask you a. QUESTION i want to interview you
for a, second which is my. Nature so in your, career,
now do you find that those types of work you

(56:18):
don't want to, do LIKE i would imagine A tv
series could be in your hand. Tomorrow you don't want
to commit to a series and be rinding that out
for five or six. Years, NO i would love to
find a good. One it's crazy now because a television
series that is good in that last and there's such,
incredible ridiculous great stuff ON. Tv you kind of want

(56:42):
to be a part of the great. Ones, YEAH i
mean there's so much good stuff on. Television what are
you watching on? Television what do you get to watch besides?
Football probably a lot Of, SpongeBob teletubbies and all.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
This, Yeah Sonny bunny Is? Mowana? Frozen we Watched? Frozen,
oh my, kids my wife when they all go, down
you know WHAT i? Mean so now there's two the
toddlers they were in that phrase and my Daughter luthia
she can't say oh, Love she, says o waff and
when she sees, me she's the most. Wonderful she kisses,

(57:16):
me she hugs. Me then she, goes oh a waff
o wa for, waff like she wants to go Watch.
Frozen SO i would say What i've. WATCHED i watched
the one with kind Of vali And naomi watch.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Oh yes, Something, yes The, Watcher, yes that was.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
GOOD i watched. THAT i devoured The crown It' i'm
obsessed with production, Value like there's things you're gonna. See
there's sets and photography and, design and there's a reality
there and going into the world of those people that
you're just never going to see anywhere. ELSE i, Agree
and THEN I i'm trying to think of what else
did you? Watch White lotuses and? Two, no watch?

Speaker 1 (57:56):
It why it's fucking ridiculously good, writings ridiculously.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Good, really you're gonna be, like oh. SHIT i always
say to, Myself i'm not quite sure how interested AM i?
AM i am in shows about like romantic and sexual.
Intrigue it's not that it's Not, dynasty, no, okay it's
you're gonna be, like oh, Shit and it's this second sisod.

(58:22):
Excellent it's amazing to hear you say. That.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Excellent it's so. Good you're, like this is Fucking you're.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Watched all of Those ark. GREAT i watched all Of O's,
ark AND i just got a little freaked out because
whenever they wrote themselves into a, corner they sort of shooting.
People so that was The West. WORLD i went all
the way With West, world even THOUGH i was a
little bit disappointed in how. THAT i wanted something more
relatable to. Happen BUT i will tell you and MAYBE
i have a feeling maybe you feel the same. Way

(58:49):
one of my favorite. SHOWS i always say this to
people all the, time And i'm amazed at people didn't
catch this was the night of The tarantino to. Tour
Johnson toro did play the lawyer med and The kid
Gets busted and they only did the one season And
Richard price And zaleen did the writing, excellent and THAT

(59:12):
i Think zaleen did the. Directing that show was so.
Good that was the one The gandelphini shot the pilot
then he, died so they had to go back and
be cast and reshoot. It but oh my, GOD i love.
THAT i love that Show Michael michael Kay, Williams, yes
WHO i worked with in this Movie The public With.
Amelio now that's the DIRECTOR i love Was. AMELIA i Worship.

(59:33):
Amelia he's a good, director, Right he's a great, director
and he's the loveliest guy in the face of the.
Earth and we did this Movie The, public And Michael
Kay williams was in, it and WHEN i saw him
and his, ENERGY i completely. Blank and THEN i walked
up to him like day four AND i, go you're
the guy from The Night of and he's like, Yeah

(59:55):
AND i was, LIKE i love that. Show the people
should watch that really GOOD.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Hbo you know what else is Excellent and even though
you're happily, Married.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
I'm happily married.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Too fleischmann's In trouble ON fx With Jesse eisenberg and Clar.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Danes it's based on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
A book and it's really about these two people going
through their divorce and a great portrayal also Like Blue
jasmine of a woman going through a mental.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Breakdown fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Excellent, now why would my marriage be because? Soiled IF i, were,
no your marriage wouldn't be.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Soild but for, ME i had went through a divorce
with my, kids and it was that show really captures.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
It, NO i mean in a real.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Way the movie With Adam driver And Scarlet Marriage story
marriage to it THAT i went from the screening was
at The Hamptons Film festival WHEN i was out there
AND i walked out into the hallway And noah was,
there AND i had tears in my, eyes AND i,

(01:01:06):
said this is like you had a camera hidden on
me in my during my. Divorce you know you're remarried, now,
yes so you were married, once, yeah twice twice? Before,
no once, before once, before and Now i'm married the second.
Time AND i said To, noah. BAMBACK i, SAID i
can't believe this is so close to the bone to,

(01:01:26):
me it. Was it was. Painful, YEAH i, agree great.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
MOVIE i, agree excellent, movie, excellent ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Movie fleischman's In, trouble which is it's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
All New york Or i'll check it. Out, Fun i'll
check that. Out And White LOTUS J because you said
so everybody else tells Me White. Lotus i'm, like, yeah,
YEAH i. DON'T i don't want to see a bunch
of people banging each other in, order but you will love.
It you're not that you're gonna. GO i want to
be on white load of season.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
THREE i guarantee you the writers are FUCKING i don't need.
That it's seven episodes and each one you're just, LIKE i,
mean there's times WHERE i put me and my wife, Like,
god damn this this it's.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Ridiculous it's just that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Good and the undertun says that it's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Great it's Not. Dynasty it's not not it's. Landing it's
relationships and dysfunction and what's being said and what's really
not being.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Said imperiolis on the show, now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
F Murray, Abraham Aubrey, plaza some People i've never seen.
Excellent it's really.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Good, Michael, yeah he's. Great he's. It Alec.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
BALDWIN i could go on and on and on and.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
On and ask. Questions my final, question what is Your trump.
Predictions it's twenty twenty. Three what do you think's gonna?

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Happen, WELL i do believe that there's a, CHANCE i
don't feel strongly about, this that this conservative cabal that
withheld the vote for McCarthy to be the, speaker they're
going to continue to try to tip over the canoe
for that, group The republicans are in the, majority And
i'm not quite sure they're going to hold on to the.

(01:02:58):
MAJORITY i think that they're going to be more and
more the press is willing to call. It, like for,
example every time there was a moment when things changed
and you would hear on the, media the press would
Say trump that said the election was, sold which has been,
disproven they would label it a. Lie the news media

(01:03:19):
would come right out and say that's a. Lie AND
i wonder if they've become more aggressive in terms of
citing that with. Everybody SO i think that The republicans
are very fractured and that may hurt them in twenty
twenty four for holding onto The house and number, TWO
i can't imagine that anybody's going to be the nominee

(01:03:39):
other Than. DeSantis he seems to be positioned himself very
adroitly for.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
THAT i, Agree BUT i go back and. FORTH i
go back and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Forth, Tulie trump is, Cooked he's, cooked and all the
stuff that's come. Out, now you know when you Tell
americans that it means LIKE, i for, example believe you
should have a of what income taxes or a minimum.
Tax so let's Say Michael rapaport makes ten million. Dollars
that'd be. Great, well and let's say you're in a
forty percent, bracket so you will four million dollars to the.

(01:04:12):
Irs and what we say is we don't want to disincentivize,
Philanthropy so we say you can deduct two, million but
you must pay no less than twenty percent of your,
income no amount of rite, offs. Nothing your baseline or
like alternative minimum tax similar is you must pay twenty

(01:04:32):
percent everybody in a certain. Category then we knock those
numbers down for people who make less. Money but it's
like this idea That trump paid no. Taxes you want to,
go you, know you got to pay twenty percent of
your income minimum to do. That AND i think that
when people realize That trump said his taxes were withheld
and you see that he paid no taxes at, ALL

(01:04:53):
i think some of his base is going to be
they're going to find that. OFFENSIVE i hope they, do
Because trump is, Cooked he's, Finished he's. Finished. YEAH i,
mean there's a people want to win The White house
and they know they're never gonna win With, trump and
they know That, dessantas they've got a good, shot right all.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Right Alex BALDWIN i am rapped poor stereo. Podcast thank,
YOU i appreciate so. Much awesome good to say it

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