April 3, 2026 • 19 mins
President Trump has called for a boycott of Bruce Springsteen’s “Land of Hope and Dreams American Tour.” Trump jumping on social media twice in a matter of hours to publicly insult Springsteen, calling him a bad, boring singer who is dried up like a prune. This all comes after the Boss began his tour saying he plans to be very political, making statements on stage about Trump, saying America is "currently in the hands of a corrupt, incompetent, racist, reckless, and treasonous administration."
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, the folks, it is Friday, April third, and we
are rooting for, but not very hopeful for a romance
between President Trump and Bruce Springsteen. And with that, welcome
to this episode of Amy and TJ. Why is the President?
This was a weird insult that got my attention this morning,
and now we're looking into it a little more. But
there is a back and forth between Trump and one
of the greatest artists of all time, quite frankly, and
(00:26):
it involves plastic surgery and boycotting concerts, robes. It's an ugly,
very public back and forth. They're just insulting each other.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah. Yeah, it's one thing to disagree with one another politically,
but this is way beyond that. And look, Bruce Springsteen
the boss. He is basically America. I mean you think
about just iconic American singers that embody the working man
up there on stage making good like that's Bruce Springsteen,
(00:56):
Jersey Gap right, yeah, like the heart of America.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So it just seems so interesting to see President Trump
make America great again and Bruce Springsteen, a absolute symbol
of American greatness, going at it publicly.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Robes. They have the same audience these two men have
the exact same audience for the most part, So is
that group torn. This is a I was gonna be
a little dismissive, Robes, but this is now going to continue.
So if you haven't been keeping up, folks, it got
my attention because last night, at nine to twenty one,
in the middle of war, the President of the United
States put out a truth social post one sentence again
(01:36):
at nine twenty one last night, Robes. And one of
the first things we do every morning when we get
up is we check the President's truth Social feed because
he often makes news. He's talking about the straight of
horror moves, he's talking about who's negotiating with and Iran,
he's talking about the budget, he's talking about DHS and
so I was thrown to see this.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, he slipped this one in last night is well, wow,
I can't believe I just said it, like that is
Bruce Springs going to sue his plastic surgeon. It just
seemed like this strange truth Social tree.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
He didn't even sign off with DJT or thank you
for your attention to this matter. That was like a
random among the toilet message.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So it I think he was operating under the belief
that people are glued to his truth social feed and
have actually been listening. But you must have missed thirteen
hours earlier when he posted it write a lengthy, scathing
post about Bruce Springsteen. So it was funny he started
(02:37):
the day thinking about Bruce Springsteen, and it's almost as
if he ended his evening thinking about Bruce Springsteen.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
But this goes back in for this goes back quite
a ways. This goes back some say years and years
and years, back and forth, and the beast between these two.
Yes they have different politics, that is fine, but things
have turned it seems as of late robes as there's
a lot more name calling and less policy disagreement. There
is name accusations of treason, people being losers, needing plastic surgery,
(03:08):
and what in God's name. So it's been going on
for years and really rodes. It started off again this
week because the Springsteen tourists starting this week. He was
a part of the No Kings rallies, and I guess
that's what really set the president off. On the previous
social media pokes.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Correct correct, Bruce Springsteen said that he is not going
to be shy or afraid to get political and to
say what he really thinks about this president, and he
did so on stage. And that makes now a lot
more sense when you hear what President Trump wrote about
Bruce Springsteen a few hours earlier. He said, bad and
very boring singer Bruce Springsteen, who looks like a dried
(03:50):
up prune, who has suffered greatly from the work of
a really bad plastic surgeon, has long had a horrible
and incurable case of Trump derangement syndrome, sometimes referred to
as TDS. You doctor, he is the chief diagnoser, by
the way. Okay, President Trump goes on to say this
(04:10):
about Springsteen. The guy is a total losers who spew's
hate against a president who won a landslide election, including
the popular vote all seven swing states and eighty six
percent of the counties across America. Under Sleepy Joe and
the Dems, our country was dead and now we have
(04:32):
the hottest country by far anywhere in the world. Maga
should boycott his overpriced concerts, which suck. Save your heart, sorry, suck,
suck seeing your herd earned money. America is back. And
he wrote that last thing about the boycott in all caps.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
M that's incredibly personal. Is it because Bruce Springsteen has
such a big stage, has such a big audience and
such a big microphone that he feels like he needs
to combat this guy word for word publicly.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Almost Yes, I think he really, I think Actually it's
a compliment that makes kind of not a lot of sense,
but maybe it will when you think about it. It's
a compliment to Bruce Springsteen. He knows the power this
man has, he knows the following he has. And so yes,
you've got pictures of Bruce Springsteen on stage in a
sold out crowd holding up a no King sign in Minneapolis,
(05:33):
and yes, opened up his The Land of Hope and
Dreams tour, basically bashing President Trump. In his first speech,
he said that America is currently in the hands of
a corrupt, incompetent, racist, reckless, and treasonous administration. Them are
fighting words.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Okay, racist, treasonous, I mean, I don't know what reckless words.
So you can get in this country at least if
he look feels that way, he feels that way, you
can feel how you want to feel about him expressing himself.
He has a right to certainly don't like the words
he's choosing. You could take issue with it. Where do
we then robes, Well, we have the expectation. Presidents get
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criticized more than anybody, any celebrity who's ever been attacked
in a tabloid. Absolutely, presidents get all kinds of incoming.
They don't do this, they don't take on all comers
in this where he could have a policy discussion, and
of course he's not going to do that. But I'm
just saying it's it's not that he's being criticized, is
(06:36):
that he is taking like tit for tact. It seems
he needs to give back to him in the middle
of war.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, he's taking things as he always has. Let's be honest.
Very personally, he I think it's fair to say he
is the most or at least the most I've ever
seen thin skinned president I've ever witnessed in my lifetime.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Some will say this is toughness, not going to be
able to talk about. Really I am, and I'm not
just turn it. I'm saying people flip it. We're in
a place where we can now justify. I don't know
what person, what parent would tell their child to behave
this way. You wouldn't tell your child if you get
(07:18):
it insult. You need to hit them harder, give the
same insult back. Make sure you punch down where you
would never So I'm saying, why is it we can
look at this and defend this in some circles as
if this is okay when robes nobody does.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
That, And what's the And President Trump, what he's saying
is you got bad plastic surgery, you're old, and you're boring,
going after his music, going after his looks, going after it.
Just it's so superficial and so childlike.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Thank you for explaining what my issue is. That's what
it is. He calls them a prone, he calls them.
That is not saying you got issue with my policies.
Well I got it. That's so yes, that's the thing
that got me. You talked about last of this tour
is now officially kicking off the US leg, but he
was doing it overseas even last year. And I think
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this was the first one that really got President Trump's attention.
He was on stage over there and used that same
word you talking about treeson us, called him treason us
talking to a foreign audience about what's happening in America.
A lot of people take issue with that, but he's
an entertainer, he's not a politician. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I mean, look at this point, and Bruce Springsteen has
kind of said, I'm at a point now where I'm
going to say and basically, I've earned the right and
I'm an American and I have a stage, and i
have a platform, and I am going to say what
I think about this president. And I don't care if
it alienates half of my audience. I don't care if
it has any sort of impact on ticket sales or
(08:52):
music downloads, because at this point, it's dangerous not to
And that's basically the line he drew.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I mean, that's cool to have. You can't do nothing
to me money, and he does. I mean, he has
just reached that level. I do wander ropes. What is
there going to be a conflict? Is there going to
be a battle among these two guys who have the
exact same audience, These two guys who represent robes I thought,
the almost the exact same thing, or at least mindset,
(09:18):
or they represent.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Seeing white working class white guys.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
What does he said? Both of them are seventy five.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, they're about the same same generation. Look and yes,
have a similar audience. That is very true. Now it's
interesting because, look, people do start to take sides. We
don't know if this will have any impact when the
president calls for a boycott, which he very clearly did,
called for a boycott of Bruce Springsteen's concerts, will people
(09:47):
follow suit? Will people feel loyal towards the president and
say I no longer like Bruce Springsteen?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
What would you say? You know what? Don't give me
your answer to that just yet. Stay here. Well, let
you know we talk told you this really got set
off last year with Springsteen his comments on a stage
at a concert in Overseas. Well, let you hear the
president's original scathing response to that, which I would argue
(10:15):
Rose might have been worse than some of the stuff
he's tweeted in the past twenty four hours. And we'll
also get the answer from roboch do we really think
this is going to make a difference in the President's
support versus Springsteen's ticket sales?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Stay here, Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy
and TJ. Worthy. Well, the very public dueling between Trump,
President Trump and Bruce Springsteen has reached a fever pitch.
(10:53):
It's been simmering now for a little over a year
where Bruce Springsteen made some comments about the president overseas.
He's his tour now kicking off in Minneapolis over the weekend,
and now he'll be performing by the way in Portland,
Oregon this evening on Friday night. Pretty sure he'll have
a pretty uh, just a like minded crowd with him,
(11:13):
given what he said. And then he goes on to
LA after that, which again he'll probably have a very yes,
a safe crowd, a very supportive crowd, generally speaking, performing
in Portland, Oregon and then in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I'm checking. Now you have an idea. I assume it's
going to be a huge tour. I don't know how
many tour dates he has lined up. But the president
needs to be I say he needs to be. He
probably is concerned about that role. This guy's going to
have the stage damn near every night for the past
for the next few months. And he is going on
stage to some of these concerts he's already done. He
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stops and makes little political speeches throughout these concerts. These
are almost political rallies.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
He actually warned. He did some interviews beforehand, and he
told reporters just letting you know, I am going to
be very very political, So he basically said, hey for
coming out to this concert. I think people know what
they're getting. They love his music, they've been fans for years,
but they also recognize he's been very very specific and
overt about what this concert means to him, how he
(12:15):
feels about the current administration, and how he is going
to voice his opinion in between his music, about how
he feels about where this country is and who it's
being led by.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Twenty dates between now and May twenty seven, twenty dates.
What do you think about those cities? Portland, La La,
San Francisco, Phoenix, Newark, Sunrise, Florida, Austin, Chicago, Atlanta, Belmont Park,
New York, Philly.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
He's made some wise choices. He's no dummy, Brooklyn. I
don't see I don't see a lot of red cities
in that.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Lineup, Boston, DC, point take.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
He's got some safe cities. They don't think given those audiences,
his ticket sales should probably suffer at all.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I'm kind of surprised he doesn't do more in the heartland.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
If you will, Well, maybe with this particular tour, he
knew exactly what he was going to do. And who
his audience was. I think he probably made a very
specific choice about where he was going and who was
going to be in the audience. Truly, you wouldn't want
to put yourself at risk the way things are these days,
you think, I mean, I hate to even say, Charlie Kirk,
but look, we've seen what happens when you have folks
(13:24):
come into some of these arenas where you were on
a stage, and some people take it as an opportunity,
and especially when you're outspoken, especially when you say this
is how I feel and I'm not going to be
shy about it. Yeah, you invite I was just thinking
about what security might be like forget ticket sales. I
would be a little concerned about security at those venues.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
And I haven't seen anything. I don't know if you
have anything that suggested ticket sales were being hurt in
any way, shape or form. I have not.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I have not. Okay, you were really excited about reading
this is what the president said? How long ago did
he say this last year?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
In response? Last year we covered this one.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
We might have, but it's just it's worth revisiting given
the latest tweets we've just seen from the President, who
was still stuck and harboring and harping on. Excuse me,
Bruce Springsteen. So here is what he wrote last year.
I see that a highly overrated Bruce Springsteen goes to
a foreign country to speak badly about the president of
the United States. Never liked him, never liked his music
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or his radical left politics, and importantly, he is not
a talented guy, just a pushy, obnoxious jerk who fervently
supported crooked Joe Biden, a mentally incompetent fool and our
worst ever president who came close to destroying our country.
If I wasn't elected, it would have been gone by nows. Wow,
(14:43):
I didn't realize he said.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
That America was at risk.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
We would have been blown off the map. Okay, sleepy
Joe didn't have a clue as to what he was doing.
But Springsteen is dumb as a rock and couldn't see
what was going on, or could he? Which is he
even worse? This dried out prune of a rocker. His
skin is all atrophied. Ought to keep his mouth shut
(15:07):
until he gets back into the country. That's just standard fair.
Then we'll all see how it goes for him. So
it looks like that maybe Bruce Springsteen did take some
advice from him and waited till he came back to
the country and then opened his mouth again. And now
the president is still very unhappy.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Then we'll see how it goes for him. That's a
weird threat threat. Yes, okay, I'm serious. Some people might
get joy out of this. Think it's cute, think it's funny,
think it's no big deal, and that's fine. I just
I just I wish cooler heads would prevail.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Look, I think, Look, I don't know how powerful we
were looking. And there's some headlines that the Musicians Union
now has come out and support of Bruce Springsteen. I
didn't know there was a musician's union, but it is
interesting what they've said. I think this speaks volumes, and
maybe they are concerned about not just ticket sales but
concertgores or people being turned off by Bruce Springsteen based
(15:59):
on what the pre president said. They put out this
statement in response to the President's call for a boycott.
We cannot remain silent as one of our most celebrated
members is singled out and personally attacked by the President
of the United States. Bruce Springsteen is not just a
brilliant musician. He is a voice for working people, a
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symbol of American resilience, and an inspiration to millions in
this country and around the world, from Nebraska to Born
to Run. His music has spoken truth to power for decades,
and that is exactly what he is doing now. Musicians
have the right to freedom of expression, and we stand
in complete solidarity with Bruce and every member who uses
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their platform to speak their conscience. Local eight h two
and Local forty seven will always defend that right.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
What's Nebraska?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
That's a song of his?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Oh? How you saw the list states? From Nebraska to
to what Oklahoma? I mean?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Sorry, Okay, you're a Bruce Springsteen fans.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
President and I might agree on we were not necessarily
fans of the music, but I respect it. I know
who that guy is, I know what he means. I
think I know he's an Ald timer. Never got into
his music, Fine, no big deal, but damn.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Literally, Born in the USA is Bruce Springsteen's song like
Born in the USA, the Streets of Philadelphia, thunder Road,
I'm on Fire, dancing in the dark, Oh my goodness,
all of his amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Video that they were out in the cornfield and the House,
House in the House on the that's.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Jack and Dianea, isn't it with John Mellencamp. Wait, I
don't know if you're thinking about one Glory Days? What
Glory Days? No? What Damn, I don't know what you're
talking about.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I was.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I'm not as big of a music video person, so
I'm not as sure about Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Anyway, folks, we thought it was interesting. It's worth noting
these are two you could you could very easily say
ropes iconic Americans when it comes to what America is
traditionally seen as viewed as supposed to be. These guys
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are these rough and gruff and not people look at
white men who have big white followings of middle age
and older white guys.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
That's very true.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
These are really icons in those lanes to the way
you can't really describe for a forty five year old
white guy except the Maga bass bigger icons than these two.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I wonder, I wonder, you know, I don't know. I
can't get in the head of anyone, but when I
know I've known some avid Bruce Springsteen fans in my life,
I can't imagine that they would be willing to just
stop listening to the music they love, because when you're
as Bruce Springsteen fan, you weren't just like, oh, I
like Bruce's music, No, you are like you bleed the
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Boss like Bruce. So it's just it's hard to imagine
that those folks would be willing to abandon their hero
out of allegiance to the president. But I don't know.
I don't know what's in people's hearts, and I don't
know if they had to choose who they would pick.
Sometimes divorce is hard, right, You got to pick your friend,
Which one do you go with? Who do you hang
out with? That might be what some folks are having
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to figure out today.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
All right, and before we go, Rope, tell us who
you would take. I'm just kidding with that, folks. We
always appreciate you listening to awesome DJ Holmes on behalf
of My Dear Emmy Robot will talk to ELSI
Hey, the folks, it is Friday, April third, and we
are rooting for, but not very hopeful for a romance
between President Trump and Bruce Springsteen. And with that, welcome
to this episode of Amy and TJ. Why is the President?
This was a weird insult that got my attention this morning,
and now we're looking into it a little more. But
there is a back and forth between Trump and one
of the greatest artists of all time, quite frankly, and
(00:26):
it involves plastic surgery and boycotting concerts, robes. It's an ugly,
very public back and forth. They're just insulting each other.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah. Yeah, it's one thing to disagree with one another politically,
but this is way beyond that. And look, Bruce Springsteen
the boss. He is basically America. I mean you think
about just iconic American singers that embody the working man
up there on stage making good like that's Bruce Springsteen,
(00:56):
Jersey Gap right, yeah, like the heart of America.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So it just seems so interesting to see President Trump
make America great again and Bruce Springsteen, a absolute symbol
of American greatness, going at it publicly.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Robes. They have the same audience these two men have
the exact same audience for the most part, So is
that group torn. This is a I was gonna be
a little dismissive, Robes, but this is now going to continue.
So if you haven't been keeping up, folks, it got
my attention because last night, at nine to twenty one,
in the middle of war, the President of the United
States put out a truth social post one sentence again
(01:36):
at nine twenty one last night, Robes. And one of
the first things we do every morning when we get
up is we check the President's truth Social feed because
he often makes news. He's talking about the straight of
horror moves, he's talking about who's negotiating with and Iran,
he's talking about the budget, he's talking about DHS and
so I was thrown to see this.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, he slipped this one in last night is well, wow,
I can't believe I just said it, like that is
Bruce Springs going to sue his plastic surgeon. It just
seemed like this strange truth Social tree.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
He didn't even sign off with DJT or thank you
for your attention to this matter. That was like a
random among the toilet message.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So it I think he was operating under the belief
that people are glued to his truth social feed and
have actually been listening. But you must have missed thirteen
hours earlier when he posted it write a lengthy, scathing
post about Bruce Springsteen. So it was funny he started
(02:37):
the day thinking about Bruce Springsteen, and it's almost as
if he ended his evening thinking about Bruce Springsteen.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
But this goes back in for this goes back quite
a ways. This goes back some say years and years
and years, back and forth, and the beast between these two.
Yes they have different politics, that is fine, but things
have turned it seems as of late robes as there's
a lot more name calling and less policy disagreement. There
is name accusations of treason, people being losers, needing plastic surgery,
(03:08):
and what in God's name. So it's been going on
for years and really rodes. It started off again this
week because the Springsteen tourists starting this week. He was
a part of the No Kings rallies, and I guess
that's what really set the president off. On the previous
social media pokes.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Correct correct, Bruce Springsteen said that he is not going
to be shy or afraid to get political and to
say what he really thinks about this president, and he
did so on stage. And that makes now a lot
more sense when you hear what President Trump wrote about
Bruce Springsteen a few hours earlier. He said, bad and
very boring singer Bruce Springsteen, who looks like a dried
(03:50):
up prune, who has suffered greatly from the work of
a really bad plastic surgeon, has long had a horrible
and incurable case of Trump derangement syndrome, sometimes referred to
as TDS. You doctor, he is the chief diagnoser, by
the way. Okay, President Trump goes on to say this
(04:10):
about Springsteen. The guy is a total losers who spew's
hate against a president who won a landslide election, including
the popular vote all seven swing states and eighty six
percent of the counties across America. Under Sleepy Joe and
the Dems, our country was dead and now we have
(04:32):
the hottest country by far anywhere in the world. Maga
should boycott his overpriced concerts, which suck. Save your heart, sorry, suck,
suck seeing your herd earned money. America is back. And
he wrote that last thing about the boycott in all caps.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
M that's incredibly personal. Is it because Bruce Springsteen has
such a big stage, has such a big audience and
such a big microphone that he feels like he needs
to combat this guy word for word publicly.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Almost Yes, I think he really, I think Actually it's
a compliment that makes kind of not a lot of sense,
but maybe it will when you think about it. It's
a compliment to Bruce Springsteen. He knows the power this
man has, he knows the following he has. And so yes,
you've got pictures of Bruce Springsteen on stage in a
sold out crowd holding up a no King sign in Minneapolis,
(05:33):
and yes, opened up his The Land of Hope and
Dreams tour, basically bashing President Trump. In his first speech,
he said that America is currently in the hands of
a corrupt, incompetent, racist, reckless, and treasonous administration. Them are
fighting words.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Okay, racist, treasonous, I mean, I don't know what reckless words.
So you can get in this country at least if
he look feels that way, he feels that way, you
can feel how you want to feel about him expressing himself.
He has a right to certainly don't like the words
he's choosing. You could take issue with it. Where do
we then robes, Well, we have the expectation. Presidents get
(06:15):
criticized more than anybody, any celebrity who's ever been attacked
in a tabloid. Absolutely, presidents get all kinds of incoming.
They don't do this, they don't take on all comers
in this where he could have a policy discussion, and
of course he's not going to do that. But I'm
just saying it's it's not that he's being criticized, is
(06:36):
that he is taking like tit for tact. It seems
he needs to give back to him in the middle
of war.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, he's taking things as he always has. Let's be honest.
Very personally, he I think it's fair to say he
is the most or at least the most I've ever
seen thin skinned president I've ever witnessed in my lifetime.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Some will say this is toughness, not going to be
able to talk about. Really I am, and I'm not
just turn it. I'm saying people flip it. We're in
a place where we can now justify. I don't know
what person, what parent would tell their child to behave
this way. You wouldn't tell your child if you get
(07:18):
it insult. You need to hit them harder, give the
same insult back. Make sure you punch down where you
would never So I'm saying, why is it we can
look at this and defend this in some circles as
if this is okay when robes nobody does.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
That, And what's the And President Trump, what he's saying
is you got bad plastic surgery, you're old, and you're boring,
going after his music, going after his looks, going after it.
Just it's so superficial and so childlike.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Thank you for explaining what my issue is. That's what
it is. He calls them a prone, he calls them.
That is not saying you got issue with my policies.
Well I got it. That's so yes, that's the thing
that got me. You talked about last of this tour
is now officially kicking off the US leg, but he
was doing it overseas even last year. And I think
(08:12):
this was the first one that really got President Trump's attention.
He was on stage over there and used that same
word you talking about treeson us, called him treason us
talking to a foreign audience about what's happening in America.
A lot of people take issue with that, but he's
an entertainer, he's not a politician. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I mean, look at this point, and Bruce Springsteen has
kind of said, I'm at a point now where I'm
going to say and basically, I've earned the right and
I'm an American and I have a stage, and i
have a platform, and I am going to say what
I think about this president. And I don't care if
it alienates half of my audience. I don't care if
it has any sort of impact on ticket sales or
(08:52):
music downloads, because at this point, it's dangerous not to
And that's basically the line he drew.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I mean, that's cool to have. You can't do nothing
to me money, and he does. I mean, he has
just reached that level. I do wander ropes. What is
there going to be a conflict? Is there going to
be a battle among these two guys who have the
exact same audience, These two guys who represent robes I thought,
the almost the exact same thing, or at least mindset,
(09:18):
or they represent.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Seeing white working class white guys.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
What does he said? Both of them are seventy five.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, they're about the same same generation. Look and yes,
have a similar audience. That is very true. Now it's
interesting because, look, people do start to take sides. We
don't know if this will have any impact when the
president calls for a boycott, which he very clearly did,
called for a boycott of Bruce Springsteen's concerts, will people
(09:47):
follow suit? Will people feel loyal towards the president and
say I no longer like Bruce Springsteen?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
What would you say? You know what? Don't give me
your answer to that just yet. Stay here. Well, let
you know we talk told you this really got set
off last year with Springsteen his comments on a stage
at a concert in Overseas. Well, let you hear the
president's original scathing response to that, which I would argue
(10:15):
Rose might have been worse than some of the stuff
he's tweeted in the past twenty four hours. And we'll
also get the answer from roboch do we really think
this is going to make a difference in the President's
support versus Springsteen's ticket sales?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Stay here, Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy
and TJ. Worthy. Well, the very public dueling between Trump,
President Trump and Bruce Springsteen has reached a fever pitch.
(10:53):
It's been simmering now for a little over a year
where Bruce Springsteen made some comments about the president overseas.
He's his tour now kicking off in Minneapolis over the weekend,
and now he'll be performing by the way in Portland,
Oregon this evening on Friday night. Pretty sure he'll have
a pretty uh, just a like minded crowd with him,
(11:13):
given what he said. And then he goes on to
LA after that, which again he'll probably have a very yes,
a safe crowd, a very supportive crowd, generally speaking, performing
in Portland, Oregon and then in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I'm checking. Now you have an idea. I assume it's
going to be a huge tour. I don't know how
many tour dates he has lined up. But the president
needs to be I say he needs to be. He
probably is concerned about that role. This guy's going to
have the stage damn near every night for the past
for the next few months. And he is going on
stage to some of these concerts he's already done. He
(11:46):
stops and makes little political speeches throughout these concerts. These
are almost political rallies.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
He actually warned. He did some interviews beforehand, and he
told reporters just letting you know, I am going to
be very very political, So he basically said, hey for
coming out to this concert. I think people know what
they're getting. They love his music, they've been fans for years,
but they also recognize he's been very very specific and
overt about what this concert means to him, how he
(12:15):
feels about the current administration, and how he is going
to voice his opinion in between his music, about how
he feels about where this country is and who it's
being led by.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Twenty dates between now and May twenty seven, twenty dates.
What do you think about those cities? Portland, La La,
San Francisco, Phoenix, Newark, Sunrise, Florida, Austin, Chicago, Atlanta, Belmont Park,
New York, Philly.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
He's made some wise choices. He's no dummy, Brooklyn. I
don't see I don't see a lot of red cities
in that.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Lineup, Boston, DC, point take.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
He's got some safe cities. They don't think given those audiences,
his ticket sales should probably suffer at all.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I'm kind of surprised he doesn't do more in the heartland.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
If you will, Well, maybe with this particular tour, he
knew exactly what he was going to do. And who
his audience was. I think he probably made a very
specific choice about where he was going and who was
going to be in the audience. Truly, you wouldn't want
to put yourself at risk the way things are these days,
you think, I mean, I hate to even say, Charlie Kirk,
but look, we've seen what happens when you have folks
(13:24):
come into some of these arenas where you were on
a stage, and some people take it as an opportunity,
and especially when you're outspoken, especially when you say this
is how I feel and I'm not going to be
shy about it. Yeah, you invite I was just thinking
about what security might be like forget ticket sales. I
would be a little concerned about security at those venues.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
And I haven't seen anything. I don't know if you
have anything that suggested ticket sales were being hurt in
any way, shape or form. I have not.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I have not. Okay, you were really excited about reading
this is what the president said? How long ago did
he say this last year?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
In response? Last year we covered this one.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
We might have, but it's just it's worth revisiting given
the latest tweets we've just seen from the President, who
was still stuck and harboring and harping on. Excuse me,
Bruce Springsteen. So here is what he wrote last year.
I see that a highly overrated Bruce Springsteen goes to
a foreign country to speak badly about the president of
the United States. Never liked him, never liked his music
(14:21):
or his radical left politics, and importantly, he is not
a talented guy, just a pushy, obnoxious jerk who fervently
supported crooked Joe Biden, a mentally incompetent fool and our
worst ever president who came close to destroying our country.
If I wasn't elected, it would have been gone by nows. Wow,
(14:43):
I didn't realize he said.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
That America was at risk.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
We would have been blown off the map. Okay, sleepy
Joe didn't have a clue as to what he was doing.
But Springsteen is dumb as a rock and couldn't see
what was going on, or could he? Which is he
even worse? This dried out prune of a rocker. His
skin is all atrophied. Ought to keep his mouth shut
(15:07):
until he gets back into the country. That's just standard fair.
Then we'll all see how it goes for him. So
it looks like that maybe Bruce Springsteen did take some
advice from him and waited till he came back to
the country and then opened his mouth again. And now
the president is still very unhappy.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Then we'll see how it goes for him. That's a
weird threat threat. Yes, okay, I'm serious. Some people might
get joy out of this. Think it's cute, think it's funny,
think it's no big deal, and that's fine. I just
I just I wish cooler heads would prevail.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Look, I think, Look, I don't know how powerful we
were looking. And there's some headlines that the Musicians Union
now has come out and support of Bruce Springsteen. I
didn't know there was a musician's union, but it is
interesting what they've said. I think this speaks volumes, and
maybe they are concerned about not just ticket sales but
concertgores or people being turned off by Bruce Springsteen based
(15:59):
on what the pre president said. They put out this
statement in response to the President's call for a boycott.
We cannot remain silent as one of our most celebrated
members is singled out and personally attacked by the President
of the United States. Bruce Springsteen is not just a
brilliant musician. He is a voice for working people, a
(16:19):
symbol of American resilience, and an inspiration to millions in
this country and around the world, from Nebraska to Born
to Run. His music has spoken truth to power for decades,
and that is exactly what he is doing now. Musicians
have the right to freedom of expression, and we stand
in complete solidarity with Bruce and every member who uses
(16:41):
their platform to speak their conscience. Local eight h two
and Local forty seven will always defend that right.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
What's Nebraska?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
That's a song of his?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Oh? How you saw the list states? From Nebraska to
to what Oklahoma? I mean?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Sorry, Okay, you're a Bruce Springsteen fans.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
President and I might agree on we were not necessarily
fans of the music, but I respect it. I know
who that guy is, I know what he means. I
think I know he's an Ald timer. Never got into
his music, Fine, no big deal, but damn.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Literally, Born in the USA is Bruce Springsteen's song like
Born in the USA, the Streets of Philadelphia, thunder Road,
I'm on Fire, dancing in the dark, Oh my goodness,
all of his amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Video that they were out in the cornfield and the House,
House in the House on the that's.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Jack and Dianea, isn't it with John Mellencamp. Wait, I
don't know if you're thinking about one Glory Days? What
Glory Days? No? What Damn, I don't know what you're
talking about.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I was.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I'm not as big of a music video person, so
I'm not as sure about Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Anyway, folks, we thought it was interesting. It's worth noting
these are two you could you could very easily say
ropes iconic Americans when it comes to what America is
traditionally seen as viewed as supposed to be. These guys
(18:20):
are these rough and gruff and not people look at
white men who have big white followings of middle age
and older white guys.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
That's very true.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
These are really icons in those lanes to the way
you can't really describe for a forty five year old
white guy except the Maga bass bigger icons than these two.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I wonder, I wonder, you know, I don't know. I
can't get in the head of anyone, but when I
know I've known some avid Bruce Springsteen fans in my life,
I can't imagine that they would be willing to just
stop listening to the music they love, because when you're
as Bruce Springsteen fan, you weren't just like, oh, I
like Bruce's music, No, you are like you bleed the
(19:04):
Boss like Bruce. So it's just it's hard to imagine
that those folks would be willing to abandon their hero
out of allegiance to the president. But I don't know.
I don't know what's in people's hearts, and I don't
know if they had to choose who they would pick.
Sometimes divorce is hard, right, You got to pick your friend,
Which one do you go with? Who do you hang
out with? That might be what some folks are having
(19:27):
to figure out today.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
All right, and before we go, Rope, tell us who
you would take. I'm just kidding with that, folks. We
always appreciate you listening to awesome DJ Holmes on behalf
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