March 21, 2026 • 27 mins
A lot has happened since Disney announced it was canceling Taylor Frankie Paul’s Bachelorette season “at this time.” First, her ex was granted temporary custody and a restraining order against Paul. TMZ is reporting at least five contestants are considering suing the network, while other contestants are speaking out on social media. We’re even hearing strong reaction from Paul’s Mormon Wives co-stars. But what we haven’t heard yet from Disney… any condemnation of domestic violence. Instead, many believe they’re leaving a window open for the series to air at a later date.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey that folks. It is Saturday, March twenty first, and
headlines and entertainment matters and pr matters have now given
way to legal matters as the fallout continues from the
cancelation of the Taylor Frankie Paul lead season of The
bat Thurreat. With that, welcome to this episode of Amy
and TJ. Yes here on this Saturday. Yes, or Tomorrow's
(00:32):
supposed to be a big premiere day for the bat Threat.
That is not happening. And rode some of the headlines
or one thing about the cancelation, And now we're starting
to see some drips and drabs of maybe some legal
matters starting to bubble up, including for her personally in
terms of her family robes.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yes, a lot of people have been running to lawyers
for some legal advice, as you predicted earlier. Yes, this
is where the story turns next. And first, Yes, it
is personal and painful for Taylor Frankie Paul because Dakota Mortensen,
who was her ex, who is in that video, who
she's now under investigation with for another domestic violence incident.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Well, he went to court.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We told you on Thursday when that video was released,
asked a judge for a protective order and asked for
sole custody of his son temporarily.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well guess what he got both.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
How old is this this one two years old?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
In fact, the video came out on Ever's second birthday,
March nineteenth, and so he was with Dakota.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
He is staying with Dakota.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And even worse, Babe, there's a hearing scheduled for April seventh.
Taylor Frankie Paul cannot have contact with her son until then.
The actual quote from the judge was, no parent time
is allowed until the scheduled hearing.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Wow, that's I mean, you could talk about the show
all day long, robes, but that is a devastating blow
for anybody. Yes, you could say this is all of
her own doing and that's fine, but that's devastating and
things are starting to pile up like that. But that's
awful to here, and it's probably the right move, right.
I don't know how anyone, I mean, a judge, this
is what the judge is supposed to do, make this
(02:17):
kind of a call. I don't know how it's anyone
can kind of right now disagree with that. Yes, she
lost temporarily.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Two of the biggest shows on the planet right now,
or at least temporarily, she's lost them, and almost certainly
at least one of them has gone forever.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
And to now lose custody of her son.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
And I think just the idea that you can't even
have supervised visits, you can't even lay eye on your son,
because in that protective order that Dakota got, it is
ordered now that Taylor Frankie Paul must stay one hundred
feet away from Dakota, which includes his home, which is
where her son is. And she also can't own any weapons.
(02:56):
Those are the conditions of the protective order. And the
temporary customers.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Don't know what the judge saw, but the judge saw
enough to think you're enough of a danger to another
human being that you have to stay away. These things
aren't taken necessarily lightly Romes. But a judge looked at
evidence and found her to be a threat, but a
network looked at her and did not. That's going to
be another part of the story. And Rose, you just
(03:22):
said something like she had two of the biggest shows.
She's lost one for sure, Hashi is what's going to
be my only question?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
No, I mean I think I'm just saying, God, how
would they ever? But we pointed out and several articles
that have been popping up over the weekend have also
pointed out that in their official statement, in Disney's official statement,
they said at this time when they talked about canceling
or postponing the show, they put in the phrase at
this time, and they talked about what's possibly probably.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
They A lot of folks believe that executives gave themselves
a a possible life raft. If, for instance, the court
decides in Utah not to pursue charges against Taylor Frankie Paul,
if somehow other information comes out that makes her look better,
or we can understand perhaps the context that she's been
(04:15):
talking about, or if anything changes or shifts, possibly could
they put this on in a later date.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
It was one of the first things. Yes, other people
are writing about it now, but Robes we were in
the middle of it and we were recording when this
news came down and we saw that ABC statement, and
it was one of the first things that jumped out. Yes,
so those words did not have to be placed in there,
but they gave themselves a possibility of still what Robes
making their money back on this show that they are
(04:44):
somebody's going to lose a lot of money on. Don't
know who's going to sue whom and how that's going
to work. But Robes to think that they make sure
what were the three words at this time, at this time,
those three words could save them tens of millions of
dollars if there.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
There's any chance they want to keep that window cracked open.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Okay, before you move on to the next thing, let
me ask you on that point. She doesn't get charged
on this second incident, what difference does it make in
their decision to put.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
It on because they would possibly say that this happened
three years ago.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
She has served her time. Her probation, I guess is
up this summer.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
A court decided she did not either violate that probation
or do anything wrong. And although it's toxic and messy,
this is something we already knew about and we've seen
her turn her life around.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Okay that I mean, that's me just guessing what they
could say.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay, Okay, that is Okay, that's tough to say.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Okay, I think there is a very small chance that
that's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
See, but now you're putting it out there. At least
we've talked about it before we came on here. Now
I am blown I just have to admit by I'm
blown away of how much Disney ABC are willing to
stand by someone who is a domestic abuser who has
been proven. Now you can people do their crime, You
do your time, and it's over. You can move forward.
(06:13):
And that is fine. That again, they are not supposed
to be you do your time, Broes. You shouldn't be
denied a life of whatever dignity and ability to make money.
It's just that this is the person we, as Disney,
a family company, choose to stand by and to defend
and to put on a pedestal someone who that behavior
came out of fine, but for a family company, or
(06:38):
to say, we're willing like all the people out there
who don't have that video and that history and that background,
and that the documented history of poor decisions in her
love life, who doesn't have a documented history now of
domestic violence that we actually saw they had other options
(06:59):
for them to triple quadruple down and still stand next
to her. Given I just I am money is it Robes?
That doesn't make sense?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Money and trying to save face.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
If there's any chance for them to say, see, it
wasn't she wasn't that bad.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
It wasn't as bad as you thought.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Okay, So now their reputation is they're banking it on
her reputation getting better. So that's what's gonna make Disney
look better is if everybody looks at her and thinks, oh, okay,
she turned her life around and we have better context. Now.
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
That's what that was the only thing I could think
of that.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
There's yes, it's mostly money, obviously, but there is reputation
as well.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I robes. The part I'm blown away by is the
reputational part. They already know what their reputation is. Why, okay,
let's get past that they picked her. I'm going now,
with all this out, Why haven't they distanced themselves. Why
haven't they come out and said that is a boring
behavior your Why holy hell, they haven't said that? Oh
(08:03):
shit to me? I mean, wait a minute, we missed
it somewhere.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
No, they haven't. They are leaving the window open for
them to error.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Have they not condemned what we saw in the video? No,
wait a minute, do you have.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Their statement ENLiGHT the recent development.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Wait a minute, baby, No, no, I'm missing so we
gotta go look this that I'm missing something. There is
no way they have not come out and said domestic
violence is bad.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
No, this is what they said.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Oh we miss something.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
No, this is their only statement.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
There's no way.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
This is their only statement. This is their only statement.
Wait now I have a okay, right when I pulled
it up.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
But you get what I'm saying here. No matter what,
no matter who you are, we all looked and saw
that even if you're a family member of hers, even
if you're the greatest supporter of hers, you could still
support her and say what we saw in that video
is awful. Nothing like that should ever ever happen again.
But to so, why then what's the calculation there?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Robes, it's there. They're giving themselves an.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Option to not even condemned domestic violence.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
But they're giving themselves the option until they actually see
what the court decides. They are giving themselves an option.
So that's where they are, and they have not at
all condemned the video.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Okay, that is uh. And again I guess if you
all haven't noticed, as we're sitting here. That has come
not as news to me necessarily, but I'm just getting
that realization right now that I had not had before this,
that they have not done done. So, look, they are
leaving room rogues. We talk about tens of millions of dollars,
whatever it is that's possibly on the line. What is
(09:53):
it worth, what's the reputation worth? And time will pass?
Will it not row? If they survived all kinds of
scandals on this show, they will continue to do so.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
In light of the newly released video just service today,
we have made the decision to not move forward with
the new season of The Bachelorette at this time, and
our focus is on supporting the family.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Period. That is the only thing that came out of Disney, ABC,
Hulu period.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
They can do what they want.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
That is done.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I'm I'm okay. They don't have to, they don't need
I don't understand that in the least bit. So they
have not condemned what we've been talking about this baby,
Why do we see violence when it's coming from a
woman towards a man so differently. It's almost bubblegum the
way it's been treated in these conversations. She went on Gma,
what do you want to say about this thing, this
domestic violence thing. Well, you know, it's been kind of heavy.
(10:43):
I just want to get through it. You know, it's
a big sciting time for me. What are we talking about, baby?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Well, if you're annoyed by that, you, I mean, look,
we've got some word about just confused what some of
the what some of the contestants are considering who were
going to be featured and showcased on this season twenty two.
But we also heard from the man rumored to be
the final Rose recipient and from several of the other
(11:09):
contenty Dougie.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yes, Doug Mason, and he said this is what his
reaction was.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
He actually made a video after the video was released
and said, I'm just sending out prayers to Taylor because
that was her moment and her moment was blocked. All
we can do right now is just be hopeful. I'm
headed off to run to watch the sunrise. I hope
you guys have a great day and let's stay positive
and show nothing but support for people in need.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, that's you should. You should support the people in
your life that you love, that you know, even when
they're they've done wrong. And when they're having a hard time. Yes,
I can't disagree with that rooms, but he was the only.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
One who gave a specific shout out of support to Taylor.
The rest of them, obviously the people in their lives
knew that they were on the show. They couldn't say
how they did or how far they got, so a
lot of the men were just online saying I'm doing okay,
hope to share more soon, thanks to everyone who's reached out.
Everyone's like, I appreciate everyone reaching out, grateful for the experience.
(12:11):
So they all kept things The other men who put
things on social media kept things very generic, very positive,
very hopeful.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Doug was the only.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
One who specifically supported and defended in a way Taylor.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I get it, I get her friends and her family.
They should embrace her, with her arms around her and
help her. She I'm sure she's having a terrible time.
I'm sure she's feeling awful right now. And I just
I'm just confused. I'm just it's just, you know what
robes is just and I get it. It's okay. There
are different rules with different folks with different looks. But
(12:47):
if Rachel Lindsay had thrown three metal chairs at a
guy on film. Okay, that's just it. It's nothing you
can ever does. It's okay, they're different rules, but it's
it's happening, and she should be supported. I'm just saying
other people who who have difficulty and have had difficult
times don't get. What I am noticing now is Disney
(13:09):
putting their arms around someone who's domestic abuser. And it's
just it's because she looks the way she looks. They
would have put their arms around a man who had
been accused of anything remotely related to domestic violence. But
I just I need somebody to say I'm genuinely saying this.
I want somebody to say to me, TJ, it's different.
(13:29):
Let us explain why domestic violence is different for man
different for a woman. Okay, and tell me why because
of that difference, we as a society and we as
a company don't mind embracing, holding up, cherishing, helping supporting
a woman who has been accused of and even has
(13:52):
a guilty plea having to do with domestic violence. I'm
genuinely robes. I'm not outraged. I'm genuinely trying to understand
and this is a very difficult story for me to
get my head around. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well, and they have obviously made the choices they've made
so far in their support and slightly distancing themselves but
leaving room open for the relationship to continue. But there
is more legal action that could be headed ABC, Disney,
even Warner Brothers way, because not all of the contestants
(14:25):
had nice things to say about their experience or at
least are happy and positive about the turn of events.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
All right, we're continuing here on Amy and TG. I
can't get that image out of my head now, Rachel
Lindsay throwing a chair, right, Rachel, love you, But I
didn't need that image in my head, of course. Rachel
Lindsay was the first black bacheloreat Juri herself. My goodness,
I was twenty sixty. Oh, my goodness, that was such
a long time ago now, But what's next? World, We
(15:04):
knew this was probably going to get into the courts
fairly soon.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Nothing official yet, nothing official yet, and we don't have
the names. But look, TMZ has broken this story wide
open from the beginning. They're the ones who got their
hands on the video, released it and certainly have been
on top of the reporting. So one of their latest
reports now says that five of those male contestants who
were competing for a rose from Taylor are now considering
(15:32):
you who predicted it legal action against ABC and Warner
Brothers Discovery that's the company that produces the show, because
they say some of these.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Men quit their jobs, they put their lives on.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Hold in the anticipation and expectation that they would get
a big boost in visibility, in marketability, in basically an
ability to make money based on their social media profiles
by being on this show. They gave up other opportunities,
They gave up jobs, they gave up whatever livelihood to
(16:05):
be on the show with an expectation that the show
would air.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Okay, that's on you, Pleia. If you came into this
thinking it was an opportunity for you to make money,
to gain clout or get more followers, you weren't there
for the right reason anyway. Some would say, well, TJ,
of course, that's the only reason people go on reality
shows now, But why is it? Robes is it? We
were caught up in it for so long because we
(16:29):
were at GMA and dealt with it for so long.
I thought we'd be jaded. But it's the opposite for
me right now, because of this, I am disappointed because
the show did kind of lend itself to fantasy, to love,
to possibility, to this adventure of finding love that was
kind of authentic, that everything about her casting flies in
(16:50):
the face of And now that you let me see
that last episode of season four of Secret Lives, we
were bamboozled.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, because you know, you and I do like watching
these relationship reality shows ninety Day Fiance, etc. But you're
actually looking at people and you may question the motives
of why people want to be with each other, but
this is a legitimate couple trying to get married. And
whether or not they're trying to get married to come
to the United States is something.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
You get to figure out.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
But at least you're watching an authentic situation unfold versus
a manufactured situation unravel, which is what I think now
they're looking to try and do in a lot of
these shows. Because even Rachel Lindsay, as you mentioned, yes
she ended up getting divorced recently, but she married, Yes, she.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Married her final rose guy, Like, this is something that
we saw, and we have seen plenty. There are babies
that have been born.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yes, there are even our guy who they ended up
breaking up, But Matt and Rachel went on for quite
a while five years ago in that relationship, so it's legit.
But to your point about these guys, if they're upset
now they want to sue because hey, the show didn't air,
I think there might be things in there that they
don't have an argument there necessarily, come on, you did
(18:01):
you but nobody told you to quit your job?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Correct, And I don't think that's going to be an
argument that could potentially hold up. But the other one
perhaps could. The other argument is and part of the
reason why many legal experts believe some of these men
could sue because they can claim that ABC and Warner
Brothers put them in an unsafe work environment, aka in
(18:26):
intimate settings alone with Paul, the fantasy suite, vacations, bringing
her home to your parents, you know, all of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So when I read the word intimate, it hit differently.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yes, a lot of times I don't know what happened
in this season, but a lot of times the contestant,
whoever the bachelor or bachelorette is, has sex with these
men and women. Yes, So now you're assuming you're operating
under the I think reasonable belief that a company like
Disney has vetted the person who you are with.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
You put it in their hands. I'm sure you sign
all kinds of shuff they sign the way and waiver
for this and whatever it may be. But even short
of robes sex, when you say intimate, we are in
private settings, I actually have this woman in my home
with my mother, with my little niece, with who knows
(19:24):
what it may be. You all allowed me to bring
this firecracker into my safe setting. That's not fair to them.
That might be a legitimate argument robes. And also it
should be noted Rose there's no way, and I think
it has to be the case. These guys, it's not
(19:45):
like they found out, Oh Taylor Frankie Paul is going
to be the new bats threat, let me go sign up.
These guys didn't have a say in who they were handed.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
No, No, the process that wouldn't work if that were
the case, because then you could see men try to
manipulate the situation and figure out whether or not they
wanted to do it based on who the contestant's going
to be.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
That's not how it works.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
So yeah, they were they walked into it blind understanding
that the show is what it is, but also expecting
that the show was going to hold true to what
it's bent, which is a show that's trying to find
a relationship that lasts marriage material.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And you put me in a situation, in an environment
alone with a woman who was capable of this without
getting my okay.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Who also, as you absolutely knew because Hulu the Crossover.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Had slept with her ex the night before she came
on the show.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Where do you only ask you about that? Yeah, it
might staying, it might suck.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Does it matter, Yes, because to me, that says you're
not serious about the process. And now I've now put
myself in a situation where I'm supposed to believe that
this person is ready for love with another.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
As a viewer, as a contestant, As.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
A contestant and a viewer, I think both. I think both.
It feels really really crappy.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Well, it's I don't know, in the real world, the
day before your first date with a new guy that
you eventually have a relationship with, if the day before
that date you had hooked up with your ex one
last time, we don't have any right to it might sting,
It might suck. But really, when you put in the
(21:28):
real world, I mean, what right do I have to
say what you did before we actually met or connected
or started dating.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Fine, but you didn't go like It's a little different
when you're going into a show with the intention of
finding love and you're still She's saying you're in love
with your ex.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
She's trying to get it out of her system, get
it out of the way. But that was hard to watch.
If you will haven't seen I'm promoting a Disney show now,
If you haven't seen the last episode of season four
of Secret Lives and Mormon Wives, the day leading up
to her leaving to go to shoot the Bachelorette, and
then after she gets there, opes that phone call between
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the two of them, right before she gets out in
front of ABC cameras to take the Bachelorette. You will go, wow,
they really pulled one over on us.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yes, and if yeah, if you want full perspective about
what's going on, watch that episode from start to finish.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
You will think.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I guarantee you you will have a very formed opinion
about Taylor, about Hulu, about Disney, ABC. You will have
a very formed and informed opinion. Maybe in a way
you don't now if you haven't seen that last episode.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
By the way, her Mormon Wives co stars.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Two of them have spoken out. I wanted to get
out because that was something new as well. Layla Taylor,
We've actually met her and spoken with her. She's been
open about abuse in her first marriage on this show,
so she put up on Instagram when all of this
came out and the Bachelorette was canceled, she said, my
personal history as a survivor makes it impossible for me
to stay silent. I stand firmly against domestic violence in
(23:03):
any form. I am keeping her children in my thoughts,
hoping for their safety above all else.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
She went much further than Disney did.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Shit hard. That was as far it was as was needed.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah, as a company, it was her friend.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
As a company, we stand against domestic violence.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Of why would they not have put that disclaimer?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Every single article, by the way, that you see written
has a disclaimer about domestic violence. The only thing I've
seen on this story that doesn't is the statement from
ABC News.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Sweetheart, that was a choice. Then tell me why it mattered.
Help me understand why a company like that, why it mattered.
What they didn't say now, in their estimation, it was
smarter to not put it in there. Why is what
I'm asking.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Is then they'd have to acknowledge that they left up royally.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
But they can just acknowledge without saying anything domestic violence.
We stand against domestic violence in any but if you
say that, then why did you hire it?
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
It's really tough and Miranda Miranda Hope also put this
on her Instagram. She was in the Swinging scandal and
admitted it with Taylor. She said, I've honestly been a
little at a loss for words trying to process this all.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Everything has been really heavy to see everyone likes that
word heavy.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Domestic violence and abuse of any kind is something I
take very seriously as a human and especially a mother.
I cannot support that kind of behavior. My heart is
with the children, and I hope they're safe, supported and
surrounded by love.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
So her two co stars.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Who were friends with her, came out with much stronger language.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, baby, you just blew my mind. Yeah, Disney ABC
cannot publicly take a stand against domestic violence while also
supporting her publicly. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
It's all like defending on you.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Oh why Yeah, sweetheart, It's not a hard thing to say.
And everybody's on the same page that domestic violence is bad,
aren't we.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, I think we can all collectively say that out.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
They refused to say they made a.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Choice, because it's not just what they said, it's what
they didn't say.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You know, I think it is all now just landing
how deliberate that was and how actually scary.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I'm gonna say something stupid right now. It's gonna be stupid.
Just let me say it. Is there any chance it
was an oversight? Do we need to leave room for
They put the statement out and we didn't go through
it that deeply or take it that seriously, And it
was just thrown out and they didn't think about it
as much as we are saying they gave it thought.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
To stand out higher pr team. I don't believe it.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Okay, Disney will not stand up against domestic violence right now.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
They won't publicly state it.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
No, or they haven't, because if you do that, you
could never let the show air. Correct Jesus Christ, I
am naives elle. I am naive as hell. So we
did not start this episode with me having that light
bulb moment.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
We watched it all happen. I heard it all happen
on the microphone.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yes, you're like, wait a minute, wait, wait a minute,
wait a minute, this is landing.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Now to what you're saying, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
And then when you hear what her co stars had
to say, it actually kind of brings it home even more.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Right, I don't know what the next thing is. What
happening on Monday? Something else?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Well, no, she doesn't have a she doesn't have a
hearing until April seventh.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Okay, oh my word. All right, well, folks, what's in place?
Where they airing? In place?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
On the American Idol rerun runs on Sunday this Sunday.
Don't know what happens next Sunday, but I hear they
might need some content.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
But I hear they have a show just sitting waiting
to run as soon as she gets clear of this
latest domestic bio investigation fresh crossed. All right, the folks,
we appreciate you. I am sorry y'all had to go
along this journey with me of oh wow, that so
we should have led with that. Why don't you tell
me ahead of time? Oh my god. They did not
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simply say we're against domestic violence in any form and
with that, Folks, we appreciate you spending some time with us.
I am a dumbfounded TJ. Holmes alongside my dear Emmy
Robot will talk on me alltme
Hey that folks. It is Saturday, March twenty first, and
headlines and entertainment matters and pr matters have now given
way to legal matters as the fallout continues from the
cancelation of the Taylor Frankie Paul lead season of The
bat Thurreat. With that, welcome to this episode of Amy
and TJ. Yes here on this Saturday. Yes, or Tomorrow's
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supposed to be a big premiere day for the bat Threat.
That is not happening. And rode some of the headlines
or one thing about the cancelation, And now we're starting
to see some drips and drabs of maybe some legal
matters starting to bubble up, including for her personally in
terms of her family robes.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yes, a lot of people have been running to lawyers
for some legal advice, as you predicted earlier. Yes, this
is where the story turns next. And first, Yes, it
is personal and painful for Taylor Frankie Paul because Dakota Mortensen,
who was her ex, who is in that video, who
she's now under investigation with for another domestic violence incident.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Well, he went to court.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We told you on Thursday when that video was released,
asked a judge for a protective order and asked for
sole custody of his son temporarily.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well guess what he got both.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
How old is this this one two years old?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
In fact, the video came out on Ever's second birthday,
March nineteenth, and so he was with Dakota.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
He is staying with Dakota.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And even worse, Babe, there's a hearing scheduled for April seventh.
Taylor Frankie Paul cannot have contact with her son until then.
The actual quote from the judge was, no parent time
is allowed until the scheduled hearing.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Wow, that's I mean, you could talk about the show
all day long, robes, but that is a devastating blow
for anybody. Yes, you could say this is all of
her own doing and that's fine, but that's devastating and
things are starting to pile up like that. But that's
awful to here, and it's probably the right move, right.
I don't know how anyone, I mean, a judge, this
is what the judge is supposed to do, make this
(02:17):
kind of a call. I don't know how it's anyone
can kind of right now disagree with that. Yes, she
lost temporarily.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Two of the biggest shows on the planet right now,
or at least temporarily, she's lost them, and almost certainly
at least one of them has gone forever.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
And to now lose custody of her son.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
And I think just the idea that you can't even
have supervised visits, you can't even lay eye on your son,
because in that protective order that Dakota got, it is
ordered now that Taylor Frankie Paul must stay one hundred
feet away from Dakota, which includes his home, which is
where her son is. And she also can't own any weapons.
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Those are the conditions of the protective order. And the
temporary customers.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Don't know what the judge saw, but the judge saw
enough to think you're enough of a danger to another
human being that you have to stay away. These things
aren't taken necessarily lightly Romes. But a judge looked at
evidence and found her to be a threat, but a
network looked at her and did not. That's going to
be another part of the story. And Rose, you just
(03:22):
said something like she had two of the biggest shows.
She's lost one for sure, Hashi is what's going to
be my only question?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
No, I mean I think I'm just saying, God, how
would they ever? But we pointed out and several articles
that have been popping up over the weekend have also
pointed out that in their official statement, in Disney's official statement,
they said at this time when they talked about canceling
or postponing the show, they put in the phrase at
this time, and they talked about what's possibly probably.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
They A lot of folks believe that executives gave themselves
a a possible life raft. If, for instance, the court
decides in Utah not to pursue charges against Taylor Frankie Paul,
if somehow other information comes out that makes her look better,
or we can understand perhaps the context that she's been
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talking about, or if anything changes or shifts, possibly could
they put this on in a later date.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
It was one of the first things. Yes, other people
are writing about it now, but Robes we were in
the middle of it and we were recording when this
news came down and we saw that ABC statement, and
it was one of the first things that jumped out. Yes,
so those words did not have to be placed in there,
but they gave themselves a possibility of still what Robes
making their money back on this show that they are
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somebody's going to lose a lot of money on. Don't
know who's going to sue whom and how that's going
to work. But Robes to think that they make sure
what were the three words at this time, at this time,
those three words could save them tens of millions of
dollars if there.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
There's any chance they want to keep that window cracked open.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Okay, before you move on to the next thing, let
me ask you on that point. She doesn't get charged
on this second incident, what difference does it make in
their decision to put.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
It on because they would possibly say that this happened
three years ago.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
She has served her time. Her probation, I guess is
up this summer.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
A court decided she did not either violate that probation
or do anything wrong. And although it's toxic and messy,
this is something we already knew about and we've seen
her turn her life around.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Okay that I mean, that's me just guessing what they
could say.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay, Okay, that is Okay, that's tough to say.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Okay, I think there is a very small chance that
that's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
See, but now you're putting it out there. At least
we've talked about it before we came on here. Now
I am blown I just have to admit by I'm
blown away of how much Disney ABC are willing to
stand by someone who is a domestic abuser who has
been proven. Now you can people do their crime, You
do your time, and it's over. You can move forward.
(06:13):
And that is fine. That again, they are not supposed
to be you do your time, Broes. You shouldn't be
denied a life of whatever dignity and ability to make money.
It's just that this is the person we, as Disney,
a family company, choose to stand by and to defend
and to put on a pedestal someone who that behavior
came out of fine, but for a family company, or
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to say, we're willing like all the people out there
who don't have that video and that history and that background,
and that the documented history of poor decisions in her
love life, who doesn't have a documented history now of
domestic violence that we actually saw they had other options
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for them to triple quadruple down and still stand next
to her. Given I just I am money is it Robes?
That doesn't make sense?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Money and trying to save face.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
If there's any chance for them to say, see, it
wasn't she wasn't that bad.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
It wasn't as bad as you thought.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Okay, So now their reputation is they're banking it on
her reputation getting better. So that's what's gonna make Disney
look better is if everybody looks at her and thinks, oh, okay,
she turned her life around and we have better context. Now.
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
That's what that was the only thing I could think
of that.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
There's yes, it's mostly money, obviously, but there is reputation
as well.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I robes. The part I'm blown away by is the
reputational part. They already know what their reputation is. Why, okay,
let's get past that they picked her. I'm going now,
with all this out, Why haven't they distanced themselves. Why
haven't they come out and said that is a boring
behavior your Why holy hell, they haven't said that? Oh
(08:03):
shit to me? I mean, wait a minute, we missed
it somewhere.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
No, they haven't. They are leaving the window open for
them to error.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Have they not condemned what we saw in the video? No,
wait a minute, do you have.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Their statement ENLiGHT the recent development.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Wait a minute, baby, No, no, I'm missing so we
gotta go look this that I'm missing something. There is
no way they have not come out and said domestic
violence is bad.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
No, this is what they said.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Oh we miss something.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
No, this is their only statement.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
There's no way.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
This is their only statement. This is their only statement.
Wait now I have a okay, right when I pulled
it up.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
But you get what I'm saying here. No matter what,
no matter who you are, we all looked and saw
that even if you're a family member of hers, even
if you're the greatest supporter of hers, you could still
support her and say what we saw in that video
is awful. Nothing like that should ever ever happen again.
But to so, why then what's the calculation there?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Robes, it's there. They're giving themselves an.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Option to not even condemned domestic violence.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
But they're giving themselves the option until they actually see
what the court decides. They are giving themselves an option.
So that's where they are, and they have not at
all condemned the video.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Okay, that is uh. And again I guess if you
all haven't noticed, as we're sitting here. That has come
not as news to me necessarily, but I'm just getting
that realization right now that I had not had before this,
that they have not done done. So, look, they are
leaving room rogues. We talk about tens of millions of dollars,
whatever it is that's possibly on the line. What is
(09:53):
it worth, what's the reputation worth? And time will pass?
Will it not row? If they survived all kinds of
scandals on this show, they will continue to do so.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
In light of the newly released video just service today,
we have made the decision to not move forward with
the new season of The Bachelorette at this time, and
our focus is on supporting the family.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Period. That is the only thing that came out of Disney, ABC,
Hulu period.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
They can do what they want.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
That is done.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I'm I'm okay. They don't have to, they don't need
I don't understand that in the least bit. So they
have not condemned what we've been talking about this baby,
Why do we see violence when it's coming from a
woman towards a man so differently. It's almost bubblegum the
way it's been treated in these conversations. She went on Gma,
what do you want to say about this thing, this
domestic violence thing. Well, you know, it's been kind of heavy.
(10:43):
I just want to get through it. You know, it's
a big sciting time for me. What are we talking about, baby?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Well, if you're annoyed by that, you, I mean, look,
we've got some word about just confused what some of
the what some of the contestants are considering who were
going to be featured and showcased on this season twenty two.
But we also heard from the man rumored to be
the final Rose recipient and from several of the other
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contenty Dougie.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yes, Doug Mason, and he said this is what his
reaction was.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
He actually made a video after the video was released
and said, I'm just sending out prayers to Taylor because
that was her moment and her moment was blocked. All
we can do right now is just be hopeful. I'm
headed off to run to watch the sunrise. I hope
you guys have a great day and let's stay positive
and show nothing but support for people in need.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, that's you should. You should support the people in
your life that you love, that you know, even when
they're they've done wrong. And when they're having a hard time. Yes,
I can't disagree with that rooms, but he was the only.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
One who gave a specific shout out of support to Taylor.
The rest of them, obviously the people in their lives
knew that they were on the show. They couldn't say
how they did or how far they got, so a
lot of the men were just online saying I'm doing okay,
hope to share more soon, thanks to everyone who's reached out.
Everyone's like, I appreciate everyone reaching out, grateful for the experience.
(12:11):
So they all kept things The other men who put
things on social media kept things very generic, very positive,
very hopeful.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Doug was the only.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
One who specifically supported and defended in a way Taylor.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I get it, I get her friends and her family.
They should embrace her, with her arms around her and
help her. She I'm sure she's having a terrible time.
I'm sure she's feeling awful right now. And I just
I'm just confused. I'm just it's just, you know what
robes is just and I get it. It's okay. There
are different rules with different folks with different looks. But
(12:47):
if Rachel Lindsay had thrown three metal chairs at a
guy on film. Okay, that's just it. It's nothing you
can ever does. It's okay, they're different rules, but it's
it's happening, and she should be supported. I'm just saying
other people who who have difficulty and have had difficult
times don't get. What I am noticing now is Disney
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putting their arms around someone who's domestic abuser. And it's
just it's because she looks the way she looks. They
would have put their arms around a man who had
been accused of anything remotely related to domestic violence. But
I just I need somebody to say I'm genuinely saying this.
I want somebody to say to me, TJ, it's different.
(13:29):
Let us explain why domestic violence is different for man
different for a woman. Okay, and tell me why because
of that difference, we as a society and we as
a company don't mind embracing, holding up, cherishing, helping supporting
a woman who has been accused of and even has
(13:52):
a guilty plea having to do with domestic violence. I'm
genuinely robes. I'm not outraged. I'm genuinely trying to understand
and this is a very difficult story for me to
get my head around. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well, and they have obviously made the choices they've made
so far in their support and slightly distancing themselves but
leaving room open for the relationship to continue. But there
is more legal action that could be headed ABC, Disney,
even Warner Brothers way, because not all of the contestants
(14:25):
had nice things to say about their experience or at
least are happy and positive about the turn of events.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
All right, we're continuing here on Amy and TG. I
can't get that image out of my head now, Rachel
Lindsay throwing a chair, right, Rachel, love you, But I
didn't need that image in my head, of course. Rachel
Lindsay was the first black bacheloreat Juri herself. My goodness,
I was twenty sixty. Oh, my goodness, that was such
a long time ago now, But what's next? World, We
(15:04):
knew this was probably going to get into the courts
fairly soon.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Nothing official yet, nothing official yet, and we don't have
the names. But look, TMZ has broken this story wide
open from the beginning. They're the ones who got their
hands on the video, released it and certainly have been
on top of the reporting. So one of their latest
reports now says that five of those male contestants who
were competing for a rose from Taylor are now considering
(15:32):
you who predicted it legal action against ABC and Warner
Brothers Discovery that's the company that produces the show, because
they say some of these.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Men quit their jobs, they put their lives on.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Hold in the anticipation and expectation that they would get
a big boost in visibility, in marketability, in basically an
ability to make money based on their social media profiles
by being on this show. They gave up other opportunities,
They gave up jobs, they gave up whatever livelihood to
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be on the show with an expectation that the show
would air.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Okay, that's on you, Pleia. If you came into this
thinking it was an opportunity for you to make money,
to gain clout or get more followers, you weren't there
for the right reason anyway. Some would say, well, TJ,
of course, that's the only reason people go on reality
shows now, But why is it? Robes is it? We
were caught up in it for so long because we
(16:29):
were at GMA and dealt with it for so long.
I thought we'd be jaded. But it's the opposite for
me right now, because of this, I am disappointed because
the show did kind of lend itself to fantasy, to love,
to possibility, to this adventure of finding love that was
kind of authentic, that everything about her casting flies in
(16:50):
the face of And now that you let me see
that last episode of season four of Secret Lives, we
were bamboozled.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, because you know, you and I do like watching
these relationship reality shows ninety Day Fiance, etc. But you're
actually looking at people and you may question the motives
of why people want to be with each other, but
this is a legitimate couple trying to get married. And
whether or not they're trying to get married to come
to the United States is something.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
You get to figure out.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
But at least you're watching an authentic situation unfold versus
a manufactured situation unravel, which is what I think now
they're looking to try and do in a lot of
these shows. Because even Rachel Lindsay, as you mentioned, yes
she ended up getting divorced recently, but she married, Yes, she.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Married her final rose guy, Like, this is something that
we saw, and we have seen plenty. There are babies
that have been born.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yes, there are even our guy who they ended up
breaking up, But Matt and Rachel went on for quite
a while five years ago in that relationship, so it's legit.
But to your point about these guys, if they're upset
now they want to sue because hey, the show didn't air,
I think there might be things in there that they
don't have an argument there necessarily, come on, you did
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you but nobody told you to quit your job?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Correct, And I don't think that's going to be an
argument that could potentially hold up. But the other one
perhaps could. The other argument is and part of the
reason why many legal experts believe some of these men
could sue because they can claim that ABC and Warner
Brothers put them in an unsafe work environment, aka in
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intimate settings alone with Paul, the fantasy suite, vacations, bringing
her home to your parents, you know, all of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So when I read the word intimate, it hit differently.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yes, a lot of times I don't know what happened
in this season, but a lot of times the contestant,
whoever the bachelor or bachelorette is, has sex with these
men and women. Yes, So now you're assuming you're operating
under the I think reasonable belief that a company like
Disney has vetted the person who you are with.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
You put it in their hands. I'm sure you sign
all kinds of shuff they sign the way and waiver
for this and whatever it may be. But even short
of robes sex, when you say intimate, we are in
private settings, I actually have this woman in my home
with my mother, with my little niece, with who knows
(19:24):
what it may be. You all allowed me to bring
this firecracker into my safe setting. That's not fair to them.
That might be a legitimate argument robes. And also it
should be noted Rose there's no way, and I think
it has to be the case. These guys, it's not
(19:45):
like they found out, Oh Taylor Frankie Paul is going
to be the new bats threat, let me go sign up.
These guys didn't have a say in who they were handed.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
No, No, the process that wouldn't work if that were
the case, because then you could see men try to
manipulate the situation and figure out whether or not they
wanted to do it based on who the contestant's going
to be.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
That's not how it works.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
So yeah, they were they walked into it blind understanding
that the show is what it is, but also expecting
that the show was going to hold true to what
it's bent, which is a show that's trying to find
a relationship that lasts marriage material.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And you put me in a situation, in an environment
alone with a woman who was capable of this without
getting my okay.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Who also, as you absolutely knew because Hulu the Crossover.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Had slept with her ex the night before she came
on the show.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Where do you only ask you about that? Yeah, it
might staying, it might suck.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Does it matter, Yes, because to me, that says you're
not serious about the process. And now I've now put
myself in a situation where I'm supposed to believe that
this person is ready for love with another.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
As a viewer, as a contestant, As.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
A contestant and a viewer, I think both. I think both.
It feels really really crappy.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Well, it's I don't know, in the real world, the
day before your first date with a new guy that
you eventually have a relationship with, if the day before
that date you had hooked up with your ex one
last time, we don't have any right to it might sting,
It might suck. But really, when you put in the
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real world, I mean, what right do I have to
say what you did before we actually met or connected
or started dating.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Fine, but you didn't go like It's a little different
when you're going into a show with the intention of
finding love and you're still She's saying you're in love
with your ex.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
She's trying to get it out of her system, get
it out of the way. But that was hard to watch.
If you will haven't seen I'm promoting a Disney show now,
If you haven't seen the last episode of season four
of Secret Lives and Mormon Wives, the day leading up
to her leaving to go to shoot the Bachelorette, and
then after she gets there, opes that phone call between
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the two of them, right before she gets out in
front of ABC cameras to take the Bachelorette. You will go, wow,
they really pulled one over on us.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yes, and if yeah, if you want full perspective about
what's going on, watch that episode from start to finish.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
You will think.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I guarantee you you will have a very formed opinion
about Taylor, about Hulu, about Disney, ABC. You will have
a very formed and informed opinion. Maybe in a way
you don't now if you haven't seen that last episode.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
By the way, her Mormon Wives co stars.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Two of them have spoken out. I wanted to get
out because that was something new as well. Layla Taylor,
We've actually met her and spoken with her. She's been
open about abuse in her first marriage on this show,
so she put up on Instagram when all of this
came out and the Bachelorette was canceled, she said, my
personal history as a survivor makes it impossible for me
to stay silent. I stand firmly against domestic violence in
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any form. I am keeping her children in my thoughts,
hoping for their safety above all else.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
She went much further than Disney did.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Shit hard. That was as far it was as was needed.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah, as a company, it was her friend.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
As a company, we stand against domestic violence.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Of why would they not have put that disclaimer?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Every single article, by the way, that you see written
has a disclaimer about domestic violence. The only thing I've
seen on this story that doesn't is the statement from
ABC News.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Sweetheart, that was a choice. Then tell me why it mattered.
Help me understand why a company like that, why it mattered.
What they didn't say now, in their estimation, it was
smarter to not put it in there. Why is what
I'm asking.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Is then they'd have to acknowledge that they left up royally.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
But they can just acknowledge without saying anything domestic violence.
We stand against domestic violence in any but if you
say that, then why did you hire it?
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
It's really tough and Miranda Miranda Hope also put this
on her Instagram. She was in the Swinging scandal and
admitted it with Taylor. She said, I've honestly been a
little at a loss for words trying to process this all.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Everything has been really heavy to see everyone likes that
word heavy.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Domestic violence and abuse of any kind is something I
take very seriously as a human and especially a mother.
I cannot support that kind of behavior. My heart is
with the children, and I hope they're safe, supported and
surrounded by love.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
So her two co stars.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Who were friends with her, came out with much stronger language.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, baby, you just blew my mind. Yeah, Disney ABC
cannot publicly take a stand against domestic violence while also
supporting her publicly. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
It's all like defending on you.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Oh why Yeah, sweetheart, It's not a hard thing to say.
And everybody's on the same page that domestic violence is bad,
aren't we.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, I think we can all collectively say that out.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
They refused to say they made a.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Choice, because it's not just what they said, it's what
they didn't say.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You know, I think it is all now just landing
how deliberate that was and how actually scary.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I'm gonna say something stupid right now. It's gonna be stupid.
Just let me say it. Is there any chance it
was an oversight? Do we need to leave room for
They put the statement out and we didn't go through
it that deeply or take it that seriously, And it
was just thrown out and they didn't think about it
as much as we are saying they gave it thought.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
To stand out higher pr team. I don't believe it.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Okay, Disney will not stand up against domestic violence right now.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
They won't publicly state it.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
No, or they haven't, because if you do that, you
could never let the show air. Correct Jesus Christ, I
am naives elle. I am naive as hell. So we
did not start this episode with me having that light
bulb moment.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
We watched it all happen. I heard it all happen
on the microphone.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yes, you're like, wait a minute, wait, wait a minute,
wait a minute, this is landing.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Now to what you're saying, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
And then when you hear what her co stars had
to say, it actually kind of brings it home even more.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Right, I don't know what the next thing is. What
happening on Monday? Something else?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Well, no, she doesn't have a she doesn't have a
hearing until April seventh.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Okay, oh my word. All right, well, folks, what's in place?
Where they airing? In place?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
On the American Idol rerun runs on Sunday this Sunday.
Don't know what happens next Sunday, but I hear they
might need some content.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
But I hear they have a show just sitting waiting
to run as soon as she gets clear of this
latest domestic bio investigation fresh crossed. All right, the folks,
we appreciate you. I am sorry y'all had to go
along this journey with me of oh wow, that so
we should have led with that. Why don't you tell
me ahead of time? Oh my god. They did not
(27:04):
simply say we're against domestic violence in any form and
with that, Folks, we appreciate you spending some time with us.
I am a dumbfounded TJ. Holmes alongside my dear Emmy
Robot will talk on me alltme
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Amy Robach
T.J. Holmes
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