E328 Liam Payne Wants To Fight Justin Bieber & KSI, Reveals Why One Direction Broke Up

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And when I was me, everyone that jumped out, I
was like really like shit scared off. But every time
I went, I'm not going to hang around with you, mate.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I said, listen, if anyone's seen my ship ride, the
pearl is somewhere over there, mate.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
No. Wow.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
I think you might have just cost us.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
A couple hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Send me the bill. Invoice me.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Hey, hey, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
That's a Tony Stark maneuver. Invoice me.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I will, I will.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Should we do it? I mean, look, my co-hosts aren't here.
We completely got ditched. We just got off a panel
at VCon.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Hey, what are you drinking?

Speaker 1 (00:45):
A little whiskey.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Can I get some whiskey?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah. Logan needs a whiskey.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
I'd like some whiskey if there's... Logan needs a whiskey.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Caitlin, if.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
If you could please facilitate some alcohol.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
It's a little risky.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
A little risky.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
It's five o'clock somewhere here.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
I know I was late, Liam. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
That's okay. I've been sat here and entertaining.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
They were texting me. They said you're really fired up
and you were telling some good stories.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Thank you, Dylan.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
I've got a lot of stories to tell.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
I'm so excited, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
This is great.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
We just had a sick panel, too.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Oh, yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:20):
I mean, you and I.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
I mean, you were there.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Oh, okay. I thought you meant another panel.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
No, you and I. I was the one to your
left at VCon on stage.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
My scooter brother.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
We scootered in.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Can we start, by the way?

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, start the show.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Caleb, we've been rolling.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Real loose start to the day.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Loose off the goose.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
I think it's because the Chick-fil-A just arrived. George is
just standing there eating it.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
It's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
You don't have to participate.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
I'm going to wait. I'm going to wait to eat.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
I'm all good, man.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
All right, you probably need help. Does he look like
he eats fucking Chick-fil-A, bro? Yeah, you're a stud in
real life, bro. I mean, you look good in the photos,
but I'm going to start over.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Hey, guys.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
Welcome back to Impulse, the number one podcast in the world.
Thank you guys for listening, watching, viewing, and subscribing. We
are here in Minneapolis, Minnesota with Liam Payne.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Holy shit. Liam Payne. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
That's cool.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Now that's one direction.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
You never know whether to cheer for yourself at that point.
I've been caught in that position a few times. Sometimes
I do cheer for myself.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
You deserve some cheers.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Thanks, man.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
People were cheering for you at VCon.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, that was good.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
By the way, I'm seeing some feedback on Twitter.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
What do you think? Let's cut to the viewers.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Took a screenshot of one of the tweets I saw.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Why did I? Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
You got to be careful you don't open the wrong
folder there.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Okay, you ready?

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Here's the tweet.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
Austin Hurwitz said, don't let preconceived biases shut you off
from opportunities and experiences. Happy I opened myself up to
listening to Liam Payne and Logan Paul speak today at VCon.
To my surprise, the most human conversation I've sat in
on here in Minneapolis.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
I mean, there was a lot of big words. I
understood some of them. That was amazing. What a great turnaround.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
It was good, right?

Speaker 1 (02:57):
But she hated us.

Speaker 6 (02:58):
I'm joking. She did.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
She doesn't anymore.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Prior.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
No, we won Austin over. But dude, thanks for coming
on Impulsive. Number one podcast in the world.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
That's a fact. Why would I lie about something like that?

Speaker 5 (03:10):
Um, we've been, we've been trying to get you on,
I think for some time now we've been crossing circles and, uh,
I understand.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
You, uh, have sat here before I walked in. I
was late five minutes late.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Sorry.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
And, uh, you almost fought Quavo at a club or something.
Did I miss a story that happened?

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Like what?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
I'm sorry. What?

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Wait, what?

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Hold on.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
This is great.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
This is what?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Are we going straight in with that? I don't know
what we're going to leave with.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, please leave it.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Um, well we were at Neon Carnival. I was a
little bit wasted. I'd had a good time and I
had a small table in the back somewhere that I
was just kind of chilling on and my manager was
having a conversation with somebody about like moments in life
when you can't back down and then suddenly this moment
happened where all these rappers jumped on my table and
I was over a fence away but when I turned
around my table was full and I'm like who the

(03:53):
hell are these guys so I held my old shirt
off and whatever and I was all drunk and stuff
so I just thought screw it I'm going to vault
the bar whatever so I vaulted over and landed right
in the middle of everyone and everyone's looking at me
in the security looking at me and I'm like yeah
I'm like well I was with him okay And he was,
I think this is probably his proudest moment that I
stuck my card to my guard.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
On this one.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
But I turned around and I was like, everyone was
all like really like super chill, whatever. So I was
like being really annoying. So I was like slapping people
in the back to say hi, but like really feminine. Like,
good to see you, bro.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Like, how you doing?

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Like, you don't want to sit by me sort of situation.
And then I noticed Quavo. And I'm like, oh, we've
sold a billion records together. How are you doing? He's like,
oh yeah, good to see you. Not that's how Quavo talks.
He probably says, what's up? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And yet,
I mean, it was just a really weird, funny situation,
but it could have gone completely AWOL because I decided
to vault the barrier.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Oh, yeah, because they didn't know who I was. Right,
they didn't know. And also, I'm going to be honest
with you.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Some random white dude with his shirt off.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Well, you're pretty recognizable. Like, a lot of people know
who you are.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
It's an interesting conversation. I often think that when I
meet someone, I expect them not to know who I
am before I go there. And I always feel like
I have to. you sometimes have these awkward conversation with
people where like you say your name and then they
don't kind of click onto who you are. And it's like,
do I bother to go to the next level to
explain to you who I am? Or does it really
matter in this situation?

Speaker 5 (05:05):
You, um, you shouldn't, you should, I think, I think
if anyone assumes that no one knows who you are,
it's like a good baseline level of humility. And I
want to say that my also first interaction with you yesterday,
you had your shirt off.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
And looked like he was ready to fall over.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Um, I don't know. Well, I was quite a big
guy a few months ago, so I'm going to celebrate.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
No, as you should.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
It was just an interesting juxtaposition now then seeing you
today wearing a polo.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
And still nude somehow. You know, it still could be
like camouflage.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yeah. You know, I wasn't checking you out or anything,
but you're in great shape.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Thank you, man. I mean, I've been training at the moment.
In the UK, we play this game called Soccer Aid,
and it's a bunch of professional soccer players like Ronaldinho
has played in the past and mixed with celebrities. Um,
so I'm the captain of the England team currently at
the moment. Who's never kicked a football in his life,
by the way, I was going to ask about to
learn for three months. So, you know, you were saying
earlier about like projects that come along. I find my
life is a lot like that. Like I ended up

(06:01):
designing for Hugo Boston. Didn't that wasn't part of the thing.
I did an underwear commercial for them. I did this,
I did that. And that's kind of what, why like
jumping into football and stuff. It's like, for me, I
get to play a role for a certain amount of months.
I put my, my ass into everything that I do. So,
I mean, I've trained like an app. So I was
trying twice a day, six times a week, you know,
it's crazy. to learn how to play football. So hopefully

(06:22):
I'm something half decent and earn a captaincy.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
Well, it's really cool now watching your career because you
get to do things like this and you had such
a fast, explosive and global come up.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
So you were part of One Direction.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
Probably the biggest boy band of all time and has
yet to be replicated.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Like, I don't know if there's like a, like besides
like the K-pop bands.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, I think some of the K-pop bands have kind
of reignited the thing. I mean, obviously we had Five
Seconds of Summer as well. They did pretty well. I mean,
if I was to explain to you, we talk about
One Direction for a second, like what I think about
how One Direction happened, because I've never really spoken about
this before. But I believe that at the same time,
it was when worldwide Twitter trends had just started when

(07:04):
we went on the show. So every night, the UK
would kick up the action on One Direction. It would
become a trend in the UK, but then it would
trend worldwide. And then people around the world would go, oh,
what is this? And then they would click on, and
then they'd find people that liked the same thing they like,
and da-da-da-da-da. So I actually think it was a perfect
storm scenario of technology mixed with something that was... I mean,
I don't want to say we were very good on
the show because we were very put together on the show.

(07:25):
We got very good at what we did. But it
made this, you know, land wave of fans. And for me,
while I was in there, the biggest thing to ever
come out of... X Factor was a bank called JLS.
And they were very big in the UK. So when
we got where we got to, I thought, oh, we'll
be just like JLS. Like, we'll be big in the UK.
And then, like, we started closing down streets in the UK. And, like,

(07:47):
one little girl, like, broke her leg by crossing the road.
And they would close down streets. I thought, okay, this
is getting a little bit strange. I'm, like, 16 years old, right?
So I thought, I know what I'll do. If it
gets too big, I'll move to Australia. And then the
very next day after X Factor, right, you're going to Australia.
And my name had already beat me there. And that's
when I knew I was, like, oh, okay, this is
where we're going next. Where's the escape button? There's no,

(08:11):
you know.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
No, and then you just took off. That's it.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
I mean, it also, the product that you guys made,
and I think like any rapid expansion always falls back.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Rapid expansion.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
Rapid expansion falls back on the quality of the product
that's being delivered.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Your music was fucking fantastic. Your music now is fantastic.
You're very talented. I saw you perform last night with
Steve Aoki.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, it was great. I mean, it's been, I say
on my solo career, the one thing I've struggled with
is writing for myself. And I think I've just figured
that out in the last few weeks with the project
that I want to do. But in the band, it
was kind of fun to write. You were almost jumping
through hoops and it's kind of like we let the
first album go by. I think I wrote a couple
of songs on the first album. But once you knew
what the people wanted, it's very easy to redo it again.

(08:54):
And you know that the hoops have to jump through, right?
And the one thing we did very clever in One Direction,
if you go back and listen to the albums now,
is that every time we made a new album... we
slightly turned the influence of rock up. Slightly turned the influence.
To the point where on the fifth album, you know,
I had the main singer from the Eagles message Niall
and be like, that's the best song you've ever written
and it was one of the songs that we wrote. Wow.

(09:15):
You know, I mean, amazing things and this is what
was nice for me at the end to become an
accomplished rock star because you want to be in a
boy band but you don't want to be in a
boy band that's cheesy, you know what I mean? It's
like that kind of makes you edge away from it
a little bit, not to say. But for us, we
became like a solidified rock band purely because of the
peers around us and being people like Eddie Vedder, being...
What's his face in the Eagles? It's like they actually

(09:37):
gave us props for what we did.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
I have a question. When they grouped you guys in,
it was X Factor, right? Did you know?

Speaker 4 (09:46):
I've ruined everything. Liam Payne, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
A little nipple tickle there.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
It was so far away from you.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
He's about to vault over the table. I don't know
how to take his shirt off.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
I don't know how often you're dealing with microphones, but
it was just, it was like.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Am I too far? Am I close enough now?

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Personally, I like hearing you in my ear. ASMR. I
like hearing you right just in my skull.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Okay, perfect.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
So. Hey.

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Speaker 3 (10:45):
I'll do it. Now back to the show.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
When I first watched you guys kind of come together,
I thought it was kind of like a thing that the.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
X Factor pretended to do.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Manufactured.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, I thought it was fake.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
So my question is, if you're showing it is real.
So like when you met the other members of the band,
were you like, oh, fuck this, bro?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
No, no, no, no, no. I'll be honest with you.
I'll be honest with you. When I met the other
members of the band, I mean, as a kid, I
didn't really have a tremendous amount of friends. I wasn't
used to like rowdy guys. And I kind of hung
around with my dad a lot, I'm honest with you.
My dad was the reason that I went on the show.
But I'd already been on the show two years prior
to the band being made. And what happened when I
was on the show the first time, I went on
and I sang. And I got from 180,000 people down

(11:24):
to the last 24. So it's a step before you're
making it. And Simon kicked me off. And then the
weirdest thing happened. All the contestants were there. Simon had
dinner with me and my mom. And the manager of
One Direction was at that dinner. But he also worked
around X Factor for a very long time. I know
this is a high conspiracy theory. um so we had
dinner and simon was like i'm really sorry i had
to let you go like i didn't want to let
you go but you have to go and get your

(11:45):
education and come back in two years and at this
point i was i was very i was really mad
at simon because i thought i beat the kid that
got through i was like i know that i outdid
that you know sorry to that kid um well not
sorry where is that kid now where is he uh
he's he has a nice life um so then two
years later i came i spent two years of my
life going around singing everywhere from stadiums, myself being the

(12:09):
Wolf Stadium, the football stadium that I grew up in,
to old people's homes, to in pubs, whatever, to the
point where at the start of it I was getting
paid so much money that I'd never seen money like
it before because we didn't have any money when I
was a kid. So it was amazing. And then towards
the end of it, through my dad's drive and my drive,
the car ride to the venue would be more than
I'd be getting paid in fuel to go and sing,

(12:29):
but my dad would take me and do that anyway.
So I've seen fame... go up and then I've also
been in places where I've been ridiculed where I was
in a McDonald's once with a girl I was with
at the time and like everybody in the city knew
who I was so I got to take a bite
out of a fucking burger and then this guy just
goes X Factor reject and the whole fucking thing goes
away so I'm like you know 15 years old no
security I've tried to do something I haven't done it

(12:52):
but because I haven't moved now I'm for people ridiculing
me anyway fast forward I go on the show and
it's very obvious on X Factor who's going to do
well because the cameras follow you all the time And
I became like everyone's nemesis at like boot camp, which
was a really weird place to be because, oh, that's
the kid that was on before and whatever. So I
had a lot of that sort of stuff. And I'm
still only 16, by the way. So I myself wouldn't

(13:15):
have put me through, if I'm honest with you. I
don't think I was good enough for the standard of
what it was. I think I landed perfectly where I was.
And we got kicked off, all of us. And then
me and Niall were about to go and get the
train in Houston. And this woman came running behind us
and was like, yo, like, please come back. The judges
want to speak to you. And they'd already done this
to me once. So I was like, are you going
to mess with my emotions? I'm already crazy enough. Thank
you very much. I'm not sure I need this. And

(13:37):
then they stood there and picked us out and they
picked a girl by now at the same time. And
from what I've heard is that like part of the
reason One Direction was made was because of Simon's promise
to me that in two years I'll make this work
for you. Wow. So he kind of started with my
face and then worked around the. The rest, I've never
told that story before.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
You were the inception.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
I was the honorary member of One Direction, yes. And
he told me that story himself in his house.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Wow. How were the rest of the people? I got
to preface this question, by the way. I'm old. I'm
like 90, bro. So for me, like my- You're not
that old. Well, my boy bands are like Backstreet Boys, NSYNC.
You know what I'm saying? So Dylan's been briefed me.
And of course, I know you guys and respect you
guys heavily. And you guys have crushed it. How did

(14:24):
they choose the rest of the group?

Speaker 1 (14:27):
That bit I don't know.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Got it.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
That bit I don't know. I should ask my ex-partner, actually,
because she was part of the choosing. She was there
on that day. Yeah, I don't know how they chose
the rest of them. But, I mean, they made the
right choices. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
And to see where we've got to now. I mean,
the very first time I met them, I was like,
this was not aired on TV. And I don't know
why I did this, but there was just something inside
me that I had to just put my flag in
the sand early. But I've been doing this. This was
my last chance to do what I do. And I've
been doing this for a very long time now. And
I've experienced all of it. And like the guys were
behind me have literally just jumped on the show and
now they're going through. So I was like, can I

(15:01):
have five minutes to decide? This was just before One
Direction was made. So I went out and I called
my dad. I was like, dad, I was like, this
is weird. I know that I just told you I'm out,
but they want to put me in a boy band. Like,
what do you think about it? He said, well, you
can either be a hundred percent of nothing or or
one fifth or something. And I thought, hmm, very clever, Jeffrey.
So I went outside and I said, yeah, I'm in.
But I was, you know what, like I say, I

(15:23):
wasn't used to like rowdy guys and whatever else. Were
the boys rowdy? In particular, a couple of them, yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Which ones?

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Like, Louis was wild.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Louis was wild.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
And he wanted to be wild. And that's his spirit.
And also, he's my best mate now. But in the band,
we hated each other. Like, to come to blows, hate
each other. Like, it was like, it was close. But
it's like, His journey and mine was a little bit different.
I was gifted every week with the fact that I
got to sing the first verse. Because my job was,
because I'd done so many gigs before, they'd send me
out to sing with a camera of 20 million people
watching with the red light on and I wouldn't freeze.

(15:55):
And then everybody else would go, it's okay, it's starting.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
That's crazy how you have roles that you fulfill. Each
member of the band, I assume.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
And what you find in bands is whoever's not singing
so much will find their voice behind the stage. And
Louis did find his voice behind the stage and he
found his voice later on in the rest of the albums.
I would happily say now, without him doing that, even
though sometimes it was the absolute death of me, he
made all the right choices that I wouldn't have made.

(16:23):
So it's like the weirdest thing ever. It was me
leading the band from the front on stage and making
sure everybody's in the right position and stuff. There's him
from behind the stage making critical decisions on what songs
we do, whereas I'm like, I don't even know if
I like this song or not. But he knew what
we should be. He knew what he wanted to identify
as and You know, that's why he's out and touring
at the moment as well. So hats off to him.
And I know you wouldn't mind me saying this, but
he was crucial, crucial, crucial, even without the singing at

(16:46):
the start.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
You said you took almost blows at each other, but
was that.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Oh, sorry. Welcome to the podcast, man. What's up with
you and mics? Well, you've been doing it on the past...
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
It's because you don't have headphones on.

Speaker 6 (16:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
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plug again for the 12th fucking time.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
We suck.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
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Speaker 3 (17:11):
Steel beams. That might even be marble. There's a fucking
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Speaker 3 (17:16):
The restaurant's amazing.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
The restaurant's nice.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
My question is, was the beef between you guys and
Justin Bieber?

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Whoa, just roll and say, fuck the whole discussion.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
You're out of control.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
I like it. I really want to know because I've
always wanted to know.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
No, no. So what happened with the... I mean, listen,
this stuff just happens anyway, right?

Speaker 6 (17:36):
So.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
We had a similar thing with The Wanted. And with
the Bieber one, I think it was me, and we
used to go back to the hotel. I'd get absolutely wasted.
And we used to play this game called Ring of Fire.
With a card, you draw a card. Each card means something,
whatever else. I mean, I fire extinguished someone's room with
the power of fire extinguishing. He was orange for like

(17:58):
eight weeks. And so one night, I was on Instagram
Live at the same time. I was drunk at the
time when I said it. And I was like, someone
said something about Justin Bieber to me or whatever, and
I wasn't even meaning to offend him. I wanted to
offend them. And this is where this can go wrong
if you start fighting people online for no reason. I
was like, well, I mean, the only thing between me
and him is I haven't been arrested. So then it
started some like, beef thing about whatever. That's so lame.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
That's the light.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
That shot's fire, bro. No, it's not. No, it's not.
Coming at my boy Biebs like that? I'm just kidding. Bro,
I'm a smooth criminal.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
I don't get arrested for anything. That's a good comment. Yeah,
and so it started these things, then everybody started getting
a bit like, you see each other at award shows,
and obviously we're boys in the band, you're like... a
boy you know not in the band so it makes
sense that we should hate each other right so like
and obviously our fan base is cross-generated so it's actually
as much the fans pushing this this this boundary as
you are yeah so i thought you know what screw

(18:50):
it we're at the show the boys in my trailer
are getting a bit rowdy i don't want to see
any any any violence man so i thought i bring
matthew mcconaughey i thought i'll just go and say hello
to him so i knocked him on i knocked on
his door went and had a chat with him and
i was just like We started talking and it was
in a different place in Bieber's head at this point.
He'd come through all of the, you know, skirting around
in Lamborghinis on the thing and all that stuff. He'd

(19:12):
grown as a person. And literally, it was sitting with
him and having that conversation. And I was like, dude,
he's like, I've always felt for you. I said, number one,
I've done all the things that you've done and I've
never been caught for any of them. So that's number one.
Number two, number two. Is that legal if I say that?
Am I now caught for doing something? I never did anything.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
No, no, no, no. What are you talking about? Statute
of limitation. Yeah, exactly. I'm out of it. You're talking
about like jaywalking and that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
I said to him, I said, number two, I said,
you know what? I've always really felt for you, mate.
And I think in our situation, we all suffer from
the same disease in this. I said, and when I
look at my boys and I turn left and right,
I've got someone who's going through exactly what I've going
through I know in your camp you're you and there's
no one like you so you can't turn around and
have that shoulder and he was like bro that's giving
me chills yeah and we became friends and right Larry.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
You said that on the panel today yeah and I
I told you I related to that too it's it's
it is a different ballpark when you're in it solo
And Bieber definitely went through the ringer.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Listen, I say this to every young kid coming into
this business. As soon as I meet them, I'm like, look,
if you want to call me, I'm not trying to
put ownership over you that I know more than you
or any of that kind of crap. All I'm saying
is if something happens, like call me and any help
I can give you, I will give you. But if
I can't, then I'll find somebody who can basically. So
it's like, you know. trying to help each other because
we're all, we're all, we're all not, I don't want

(20:31):
to say suffering from the same disease. It makes it
sound really like sad and horrible and like, oh, whatever.
But it is, we all have this thing about us
that we have to, we have to live with. It's
part of our fame. And I think it's better if
we all stick together and start, you know, throwing the
visa at each other.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
I also think I'd, I think a boy band versus, like,
a solo artist, like, actual brawl would have been highly entertaining.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
No, I think Bieber can hold his own, man.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Oh, I'm sure he can.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Dude, I heard he could box. Like, for real, box.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Like, Bieber, when I watch Bieber, one, he's mastered every
single instrument. He was playing drums since, you know. I
was not doing that. I was banging my head off
stuff when I was his age and, you know, crying
at my mom. And then you watch him, if he
picks up a hockey stick, he'll master the hockey stick.
He's just one of those guys.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
He's good at everything.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
So I'm not going to say a thing. He'd probably
pull out some... He was on that movie with Jackie Chan.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Karate Kid. He'd probably pull some flair out and just
start high-kicking everyone. Beating the shit out of each other.
Imagine that. Bieber just roundhousing everyone. Great movie. Roadhouse.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
What movie in the beginning did Bieber get brutally.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
He got shot a hundred times via a machine gun.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Oh, was it one of those parody movies?

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yeah, but they smoked him. Like a scary movie or
something like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So did you see
him before the whole... This was after the album showed.
Because you guys had your own Kanye West versus 50
Cent moment. Like, where it was like, whose album's gonna
sell more fucking copies on the release date, right?

Speaker 1 (22:03):
You know, this is the thing, I don't even know
what any of that stuff was about, because I couldn't
tell you who, at that point, had sold and hadn't
sold more. I know for us, one of the biggest
accolades I ever remember of ours was having the biggest
selling tour in the world for three years in a row.
And everywhere we used to go, we used to beat
the records in the venue, the records at this, you know.
You know what, you didn't even look at that when

(22:23):
you were in One Direction. It was really weird, actually,
until it finished. And, like, I remember being on the
phone to Lou after and being like, wow, like, that
was really something. Like, until the dust clears, you're like, hmm,
you might have did a little thing there, you know
what I mean? And, yeah, until the dust clears, it's
like you don't appreciate it for what it is. And
regrettably so, actually, because I wish I'd have understood it
more while I was in the middle of it. But, like,
I mean, you know, there was a point where... You know,

(22:45):
people were saying, oh, you could probably fart bar bar
black sheep on a mic and it would go to
number one. And I was like, you know, you just
didn't appreciate it as much as you should have really.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
Right.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Tunnel vision.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
You were like focused.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, that was it. No, you know what? We never
got time to celebrate. That was the one thing in
One Direction that I always hated. And so, I mean,
I started to celebrate really early into into award shows.
I'd like I'd made sure I had a good time.
I was there because I knew I was going to
be on a plane to Japan and like sleeping on
the floor. We used to have really big security guards
and I literally have slept like 14 hours on the
floor to Japan before and woke up on the floor
and then been greeted by 6,000 people.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
So crazy, man. That's insane.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
How does a human brain comprehend something like that?

Speaker 1 (23:25):
It doesn't, mate. I'm going to show you one picture
and I'll send it to you so you can flash
it up. But it's always my favorite one. And this one,
we were making our movie at the time and I
really hated the movie crew for doing this to me
because they woke me up and were like, Oh, we
need to do a shot with you out on the
balcony here, you know, whatever. And I'm like, OK, cool,
I'll do it. And they always used to ask me
because I always used to say yes. So they wake

(23:47):
me up and I don't know what's going on outside
because I've only just landed in this country. I've never
been here before. And they go, yeah, just walk out
on the balcony. I walk out on the balcony. There's
15,000 people outside the hotel and I'm on my own,
which I'm not used to. And I was like going
into like severe shock. I'm like, oh my God, like
what do you say? And then they start chanting my
name and I'm on my own. It was a really beautiful,
lovely moment. But inside I was like, oh my God,

(24:07):
this is terrifying. Can I show you the picture? I mean,
like for most people, it's like big concerts. Like the
O2 Arena is like 19,000. This was just our hotel.
And I'm sure the hotel hated us because they had
to provide like ambulance services, toilets, food. So that used
to be everywhere we were.

Speaker 6 (24:26):
Imagine being so famous that they have to give people toilets.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Dude, that's like some Beatles shit. Well, we're going to
put it on the screen. We'll flash it up there.
That's insane.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Ignore my smashed up phone. I'm very clumsy.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Yeah, that's wild, man. Did you drop it vaulting over
a fence with your shirt off?

Speaker 1 (24:42):
To 15,000 people.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
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Speaker 7 (24:45):
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Yeah.

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you were very much in vault mode last night as well,
and I think before Logan got here, we were talking
about your desire to get into some combat sports, right?

Speaker 6 (25:49):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, man.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Is that something? Because that shit's hot right now. Combat
sports are going nuts.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
We spoke a little bit about this on stage, and
I was identifying what you said. And when I was
a kid, what people used to say to us was, oh,
my God, imagine the rooms you could get in. And
what that meant was the writing rooms. So, you know,
getting to work with people like Pharrell, whatever else. But
for me, it extended over to business rooms and meeting
people like Gary Vee and whatever else. Now, for me,
it's like, if there's a chance for me to jump
in a ring and have a go and see what
that feels like to be gladiatorial in the 21st century...

(26:21):
I'm in. Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
It's the coolest thing ever.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Unless you get memed, bro, and then everything you've done
in your life is.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
No, I disagree.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
I disagree.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
I think for someone at his level, you can't erase
the resume.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
No, I already see the memes. He went the wrong direction.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Oh, fuck.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I don't want to do it. That could work in
two favors, though.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
He went the right direction.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Listen, I mean, you've been out there. You know what
it feels like.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
And I.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
I don't know, I just, I love boxing as a sport.
I think it's fantastic. And I like a bit of
a ruckus, let's say.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
A very British way. For sure. I love a ruckus.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Your manager, that one, holding the beer?

Speaker 6 (27:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
They're all just getting drunk instead of here.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
No, no, no.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Oh, they're just sipping. They're not getting drunk.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
I know for a fact, you boys were out till like,
what did they say, 6 a.m.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
In Minnesota?

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah, they weren't messing around. You're some real English blokes.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Proper English, man.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Is this guy your personal trainer?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Proper peaky blinders.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Nobody, He told me, he told me, do you do
jujitsu or something?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
They kind of complimented you.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
To say he does jujitsu is like, listen, he's the
kind of person, right, where I just started to enjoy chess.
So I'm at home playing chess, thinking I'm going to
be like Robert Downey Jr. and Sherlock Holmes. I'm going
to be this magical genius. He comes into my house
and sits down and says, we'll have a game. That's
a game. Beats me within four moves. And I'm like, okay,

(27:45):
let's have another game. Blah, blah, blah. And third game
he goes, yeah, I used to be the county champion.
I'm like, oh, bloody brilliant. Like exactly who I wanted
to play. To ruin my dreams. When it came to fighting,
there was one time in my house where I was
explaining a story where somebody headbutt me once and I
overextended the headbutt and I headbutted him in the nose.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
You were recounting the story.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Of someone headbutting me and I headbutt him. And literally
all I saw was him stare back at me He
didn't bleed from here. He bled from here. So I
knew I'd done something super serious. And I was like, oh,
this is about to go down. And he smiled at me.
And I was like, yo, double leg took me underneath.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Whoa.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Got me on the floor. And then I just literally
start thinking I'm on the floor. So I don't really
know what to do with them. Them ribs look mighty
tasty right now. So I just start whacking him in
the ribs, whacking him in the ribs. And he did
two things, one to my wrist and one to my neck.
And I went, yeah, I'll do it.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Like a fucking pretzel.

Speaker 6 (28:45):
The fact that he smiled at you, I would have
shit in my pants.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
He smiled at me. You fought? Yeah. You had fun.

Speaker 6 (28:51):
We fought.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
We have a lot of fights. But, I mean, we've
been blessed to go in. And jiu-jitsu I love as
a sport just because it's so concentrated. There's so many things.
And it's a sensitivity to go in and fight in jiu-jitsu.
And also, it made me change my judgment on anyone
that I would ever even try to fight with.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
You can't tell nowadays who knows how to put an
arbor on you.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Maurizio, his god or grandfather invented jiu-jitsu, and he's 109 kilos,
he's 67. He sat on me the other week, and
he put his knee on me, and he knows how
to put 109 kilos on a pinpoint. And I was like,
I was in a seminar the other day, and he
accidentally made a guy fart, which I thought was really funny.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
That's a sick superman.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Could you go into detail for that? I would love
to know how he made.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
A big part. This poor, poor guy. Like, they don't
like questions because they are the gods of what they do.
But Maurizio's explaining this maneuver. And some little brown belt
at the back just decided, I thought I'd ask a
question at this point. He deeply regretted it later on.
He goes, oh, what about if I did this? And
Maurizio just said, show me. Show me. Brings him to
the front. And then he did this whole thing. The

(29:49):
guy tried to do what he did and then the
guy just got wrapped up. And then like, Maurizio like
lay back and that's when he starts to put his
energy into him so he's losing all his oxygen. And
then the guy just like, aww. And this room was
full of 80 people. And me and him were like,
poor fucker. I've never asked Maurizio a question since, funnily enough.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
No, he was being really enthusiastic about how tough you are.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
He was saying that when you guys do jujitsu, you
won't tap, you'll just fight until you throw up.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
I've never tapped. I'd rather go out.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Just get knocked out unconscious. Is that a pride thing?

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Listen, I've been trying to put myself to sleep for years.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
Like, thank God, put me to sleep.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, let me have a little rest, a little time out.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
So you fought your manager.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Have any of the boys in the group ever actually
come to blows?

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Not almost come to blows, but actually? No, no, we
came very close at points. I think it was well
known within the band that I don't like taking shit
at a certain point. I made it very obvious. I'm
not going to tell you how. Um, and there was
one moment where there was an argument backstage and someone,
one member in particular threw me up a wall. So

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I said to him, if you don't remove those hands,
there's a high likelihood you'll never use them again.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
That is such a British thing to say.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
It's just an awesome thing to say. Wait, what did
he say after that?

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Oh, he just took his hands off.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Oh, amazing. He went from Liam Payne to Liam Neeson.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah!

Speaker 3 (31:14):
In like two seconds. He's like, I have a very unique...
I don't know why you have your hands on me.
I have a very unique set of skills.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
I have a very particular set of skills.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Mine sounds more like Peter Griffin. I have a very
particular set of skills.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
From Quahog.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Dude, do you know, I've had an experience with one
of your bandmates.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Oh, you do?

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Yeah, and he's fired up. Do you know about this?

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Which bandmate are we talking about? I already think I know,
but just throw it in the mixer.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
Our boy Zane. Ex-bandmate, I should say.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Wayne Malik. Wayne.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
Yeah, man, we were in Vegas, and this is like
my second-hand experience. It was Jake's experience with him.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
You're just living off everyone.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Else's experiences now. Yeah, vicariously.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, hell yeah. I'm going to start telling these stories
in a minute and presenting.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Them on my own.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
I was loosely involved. Very loosely involved.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
Something happened where, like, Jake said hi to Zane, and
he felt like.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Your girl just spilled Coca-Cola everywhere.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah, point the camera at her.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Put her on.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Put her on.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Uh uh oopsie daisy.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
He uh not good for you anyways fuck that he
said hi to zane and like zane he jake felt
like zane was disrespectful to him and he wanted to
like say what's up and so jake tweeted at him
and then he was screaming in his hotel room because
the rooms were right next to each other he was
he was he was and there was a video of
it online screaming in his hotel room was like i
thought my brother was about to fight zane and then

(32:37):
gg tweeted Jay calling him like ugly and irrelevant and
that went crazy viral and you.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Know, Jake is ugly.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
But he's not irrelevant.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Then she tweeted something about get yourself like a respectful
man or something.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
That one didn't age very well.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
It didn't age.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
No, no, listen, listen, listen, listen.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Before we go too deeply into this, there's many reasons
why I dislike Zayn and there's many reasons why I'll always,
always be on his side. If I had had to
go through what he went through through his growth and
and whatever else you know your parents very supportive very
very uh my parents are overly supportive to the point
where it's annoying at times and they don't even mind

(33:18):
me saying that and zane zane had a different upbringing
in that sense and um you can't you can always
look at the man for where he is and and
say oh yeah whatever that guy's a dick right but
at the end of the day once you understand what
he's been through to get to that point and also
whether or not he actually even wanted to be there
and also I'm so misunderstood by myself more than anyone.
I don't know what I'm doing or why I'm here.

(33:40):
I can't sit here and dick on him because of whatever.
And listen, I don't agree with any of his actions.
I can't commend some of the things that he's done.
I can't be on his side for that. What I
can say is I understand and I hope that your
only hope is that at some point in their life,
the person on the other end of the phone wants
to receive the help that you're willing to give them.
That's all I'll say.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
That's beautiful. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
How old are you? 28. You're very wise.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
I'm an owl. What's up? You're very wise. I'm an owl.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
You see how I made myself wise and then a
knob in 10 seconds. That's the problem in my life.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
That dichotomy is fantastic. You have to keep people guessing.
Never let them know your next move.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Don't pigeonhole me. I don't like it.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
How many bird references we got here?

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Owl, pigeonhole.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
What's next?

Speaker 6 (34:23):
I actually have one question because I myself feel like
I'm in a boy band. Not a real singing one,
but with my friends, we travel the world. We have
a lot of good times. I feel like I'm a
part of like a cute little boy band. But these
two guys, they argue about females all the time. Did
you guys ever have like a girl that you were
fighting over or anything?

Speaker 1 (34:41):
No, actually.

Speaker 6 (34:43):
By the way, I would never want to disrespect because
you guys probably weren't running around with.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Terrible choices of women. Not this again. Not this again, George.

Speaker 6 (34:51):
But was there somebody like, you know, she's mine, bro.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
God, that girl is mine.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
She's mine.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
You like Michael Jackson. That song's great. Him and Paul
McCartney before they fell out. Did we ever have an
argument over a girl? No, I don't believe so. I
don't believe that ever happened. Was anybody ever with another
girl that someone else was with? I definitely think that
might happen.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
And were you guys cool with that?

Speaker 1 (35:16):
It wasn't me. I could ask them.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah, yeah. But there was no animosity? Like, there was no, like,
that's my.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I don't know. I wasn't there.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
I was out of the scene.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
He's PR trained.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
It had nothing to do with me. He's so PR trained.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
I was so well trained. No, I wasn't really like... Honestly,
and I'm not really like that, if I'm honest with you.
I'm quite a calm individual.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
You didn't seem very calm last night. That was my
first time meeting you, and you seemed fired the fuck up.
You had your shirt off. You had like a crazy glistening.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
What would you do if you were me?

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Exactly what you did. I'd have my shirt off. By
the way, I've been wanting to ask you this the
whole time. Can you drop your skincare routine right now?
I've been asked this a lot. I've been asked this
a lot, actually. Holy shit.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
I'm currently working on skincare routines coming out soon through
the Paul and Paul designs.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Fantastic.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
You know how you ended up with like a... You
now represent me.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
No, he doesn't need any more... companies dude.

Speaker 8 (36:11):
Help me I'm going to become the third Paul Liam
Paul what do you think about that I'd.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Still be LP it still works I don't have to
change my tattoo.

Speaker 8 (36:18):
Wow we almost have the same name oh my god
what's your middle name James LGB LGB side to party
nice we talked.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
About that one more whiskey for me please let's just
get it rolling me too me too.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
We were talking before. Two whiskeys.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
Such a bad idea.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
It's a great idea. When's it ever a bad idea?
It's only a bad idea the next day. Don't tell
them what time it is. That makes it seem like...
My bad. What would you do if you were us?

Speaker 4 (36:53):
I like that question. I'm going to start asking that.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Go. You know what?

Speaker 1 (36:57):
That's a funny thing, actually. The most thing I ever
get said to me, right? There's two things. Through that
influence of the girls being around you and whatever else
and having to grow up through that bit. It was like, oh,
if I was you, I wouldn't have a girlfriend. I'd
be doing whatever I wanted. And it's hard not to
listen to that as a kid. So then there's a
little thing building. And I find I'm very influenced by
energies around me and people around me, for sure. And

(37:17):
the most thing I ever get said to me is, oh,
if I was you, I'd be dead by now. Imagine that.
And I'm not, as far as I know.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
No, you're doing great.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
But that makes sense, as far as I know. The
majority are killing it. Not really, but you're doing good.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
I just think that every day is like... If I
was you, I'd be dead by now.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Well, because the majority of people wouldn't be able to
do it, dude. You know what I'm saying? It's fucking crazy.
Who says that, though? It's just true.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
It is true. Do you get that said to you
a lot? No. It's a conversation opener for me.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
I mean, bro, there's a very big difference between being
like a rock star and a fucking podcast host.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Well, boxing.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Hang on a minute, mate. You're a bit more than that.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
I'm being facetious, but still, like.
Big difference, man.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
I never had the 15,000 people standing outside of my
hotel shutting down streets in Peru.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
I mean, you know what?

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Going back to that situation as well, I mean, I've
spent a lot of time with psychologists, as you can
probably tell.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
I can. I can.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
I can. And one of the biggest things that she
told me when I was with her was that, you know,
from the age of 16 upwards is one of the
big things parents should give children of that age is freedom,
which it seems kind of counterproductive, but the cheapest security
for The people outside and the people inside the building
is to lock on the front door. So we used
to get locked in our hotel rooms all the time.
And what I find about my life now is I'm
still in a syndrome sometimes where I become almost agoraphobic

(38:36):
in a way because I wait for work to tell
me where to go. So the biggest thing in any
therapy session or anything I ever do is like, what
do you enjoy in life? And I don't really know
because I just choose to enjoy the minibar and then
smash up the hotel room.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Do you feel like numb to the normalcies of life now?
You know what I'm saying? Having gone through all that?

Speaker 1 (38:55):
I love to take my son to school.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Really?

Speaker 1 (38:57):
That's one of my favorite things. It's so much fun.
And I know he loves it too. And, you know,
it happens once a week, twice a week. And if
I'm in a weird sleep, we'll go down and I'll
take him out to school. And I always surprise him.
And he literally sat down the other day and he
was a lot of sleep. His mom said to him, morning, sunshine.
And then my deep voice came in and said, morning.
And he went, huh? First word out of bed. I've

(39:19):
never even heard him make that noise. And he went, wow, daddy,
that was the biggest surprise of my life, you being
here today. That's the best shit.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
So that's like so that's like your new dopamine dump
it's just it's just like those those.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Taking care of him and watching him grow and hopefully
he does it a little bit better than i did
man that's amazing yeah that's the coolest thing man.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
I didn't i didn't know you were dead until you
said it on stage today you're and you're a young
dad too yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
I had my son when i was 23 yeah so.

Speaker 5 (39:45):
And this is actually interesting um the the the mom
was a judge on X Factor, judging you, rigged.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Baby mama drama, brother.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Listen, when I was 14, I was hot. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Yeah, that's another part of the story.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
No, no, okay, sorry.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
There's a bigger part of the story. There's a bigger
part of the story. So I went on, and what
happened in one of my auditions is they put a
female judge in front of me, and to make myself
stand out, halfway through the song, I winked at her.
It's a licensed weapon. Please don't try to touch me.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
I'm going to steal that.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Don't touch me. And so, like, I went back to
school the day after and I winked at Cheryl in
the audition and my friends are going, what the fucking
hell do you think you're doing winking at Cheryl Cole
on TV or whatever? I was like, just, you know,
came naturally. It was just one of the things I do.
I was such a little prick when I was a kid.
And then, like, fast forward years later, yeah, we ended
up having a baby together. It was really.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
How much of it do you attribute to that wink?
What do you say?

Speaker 1 (40:39):
I mean, the wink, like I say, is a registered weapon.
I have to check it in. Just this eye.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Would you mind firing that weapon at that camera right there? Oh, fuck, dude.
I got hit by some of that.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
That's intense.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Keep your hands to yourselves. I got hit by shrapnel
on that one. No, but I mean, what a blessing.
It's the weirdest how I met your mother story ever
because she was the judge on the show. I had
a hole in my shoe at the time. And yeah, so,
I mean, fantastic time in life.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
That's insane. It worked out.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
It worked out great and she's the best mom in
the world. I couldn't ask for someone better You know,
the relationship we have with each other now as friends
has only grown more since, you know, we broke up
for a reason that we broke up. And now, you know,
she gives me full autonomy of my own life to
be able to go and do what I do. And
at the same time, I know he's being taken care
of because he's all she cares about. And that's, you know,

(41:29):
you couldn't ask for more.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
Based in the UK?

Speaker 6 (41:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
They live like three minutes from my house.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Oh, very. Are you still living out there? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yeah, no, I always glue myself to where he is. Like,
I don't want to miss a thing of that. I
owe it to him. You know, my life now is his.
My money's his. You know, I don't want to tell
him that too much.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
Yeah, I was going to say, you have to be
careful because.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Well, this is a constant conversation I have with myself. Like,
what do I give him? I've actually got several companies
that are up and running that I know he can
run one day if he wants to. And if he
wants to sell them, he can sell them. If he
wants to run them, he can run them. That's his choice.
I mean, he's five, right? It's a long way to go.
But I like to think ahead. And he's a lovely, lovely,
lovely boy. Like, we've been blessed. Like, the point where
parents used to come around to the house and, you know,

(42:09):
Bear was always really calm and listened and whatever else.
And then these other kids like running around like little savages.
And the moms are going to, like, Cheryl, like, how
did you do that? It was almost like that moment
in Wolf of Wall Street when he sells the Benny's dog.
That was literally Cheryl as a parent. So, you know,
she'd been fantastic.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
I mean, obviously it has to do something with parenting.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
And you and her as parents.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Imagine I was your dad.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
I mean, bro, you're being facetious, but, like, I can
see you're a great dad. You know, you're very wise.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Behind your ears.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
You're self-aware.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
I put my time in with my son.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
And also, I like to speak to people who are
new dads also because you don't know what's coming and
it's different. And, you know, to be honest with you, yeah,
it ruined a relationship for me in that point, but
for all the right reasons. And it's like, you think
kids is a blank page. They're born. I mean, when
Bear was first born, I was so excited for him
to be born. I thought, what if I don't love

(43:00):
him enough? Like, it was such a worry for me.
And his mom had achieved hemorrhage quite badly in birth,
so she was asleep the whole day. So for the
first 24 hours of his life, I was 23. with
a baby in a room and I had to take
care of it. And I didn't even have any baby
sisters or anything. So it was very fun. But at
the end of the night, finished with me with a
PlayStation controller, my little boy on my arm, like I'm
playing FIFA, like this is the coolest thing ever. It
was the best. But yeah, you don't get a blank page.

(43:22):
They show you what they can do and then you
steer them. So it's actually not that, it's not that difficult.
It's very hard, but it's like, as long as that's
what you look for rather than you trying to be like,
this is what you're going to do with your life.
I mean, the scariest thing for me is him waking
up one day and going, I want to be famous.
And he's already like, I'm going to sing Strip That
Down with you on stage, Daddy. And it scares the
crap out of me because I know what it did
to me.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
I was going to ask you, has he shown any
signs of being good or passionate about any specific pursuits?

Speaker 1 (43:48):
He's too young to show any of those things yet
in my eyes. He's got amazing timing, dance-wise. If I
play a song, me and him have the same trait
in our brain. It's the same as what Charlie Puth has,
but I was never taught to know piano, so I
couldn't tell you.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
If you ask me what note was, I could be
able to press it within seconds. And he would literally
all sit at the piano and he would find the
key in seconds. Perfect pitch.

Speaker 7 (44:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Often when I rehearse, I will start singing before the
song starts and then the person will start playing and
I'm already in tune before the song starts.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
It's a really weird thing.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
If you could see him or guide him or manage
him into a life that mirrored or replicated yours and
the same levels of success, would you do that?

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Listen, I will let him do whatever he wants. I
protected his face since young. I chose to be famous
when I was 14. I didn't choose to be famous,
but I chose to do what I did. I also
know that you can't put the lid back on. Once
you pop, you just can't stop. It's like a Pringle.
For me, he has to make that choice when he's older,
and I know what choice he's going to make already
because he's just absolutely dying for it. He goes to rehearsals.
His mom's a pop star, too, so he goes to

(44:52):
rehearsals with his mom. I've got videos of him with
his shirt off, holding a microphone, very much like his
old man.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
His family hate shirts.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
We're nudists.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Hedonists.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
And yeah, I've got videos of him doing the Dance
of the Weekend song and whatever else. And he wants
to learn piano. And I know whatever he does, he's
going to tenfold anything that I've done in my life.
And that's the, what more could you ask for? And
I would never stop him. At least I did all
the wrong things for him so he doesn't have to
do them.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
No, you're right.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
That's like the ultimate goal, I think. When they asked
me on stage, actually inspired by just hearing about you
being a father and how you talked about being a dad,
what I want people to remember me by, my last
minute answer was like, I'd love to be an amazing dad.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Clever.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
I'd love to be an amazing dad.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
You know, you dicked on me so many times in
that interview today, by the way.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
What happened?

Speaker 1 (45:38):
You bought Gary a fucking present.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
I'm sat there. I've got no present. I've got no
friends that fly me around places and whatever else. I
wish I was sat behind you because I would have
just waited for your answer and then I'd have gone, well,
my mate's got a rocket.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
I would let you go first.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
I would let you go first.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
No, you did well. I honestly really enjoyed that and
I feel we've bonded over the time. Dude, we've talked
about a.

Speaker 5 (46:02):
Lot of shit in the four conversations we've had.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
He told me, this was interesting, I want to talk
about the Pharrell writing session.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
Because I think this is fascinating.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Yeah, I mean, this was interesting. So Pharrell one day
asked One Direction to come write with him and I
turned up and I was the only member there. And
I was gobsmacked. I thought, what the hell? Wait, what? Yep, yep, yep.
There was an email sent.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
It wasn't sent directly to me, I turned up. And
I sat in the studio and it was a really,
really daunting moment for me because he is basically like
the Beethoven of us. You know what I mean? Like
he just writes his songs, whatever. And he's got a
very funny way of writing about him. I absolutely love it.
He's always lovely to me. But I sat in these
sessions and I just couldn't bring myself to show him
anything that I could do because I'm like, how do
I tell Pharrell how to spin a keyboard or whatever else?

(46:45):
I'm very like, Like, if I draw a picture for
my NFTs, if I do whatever else, I will do
it alone. I won't do it in a room with somebody.
And I play, but I would rather play by myself,
and then I'll show you what I did later. I'll
show you some stuff that I did so you can understand. And, yeah,
I sat with him for two days, and I just thought,
what a waste of an opportunity. Like, the guy clearly
believes in you. And then another couple of months went by,
and he saw me at an award show, a really

(47:05):
cool moment in my life.

Speaker 7 (47:06):
And he came over, and he's like, hey, how are you, man?
I was like, yeah, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.
He's like, let me tell you something. I feel like
I've seen this movie before, and the last time I
was in it, I got it wrong. I don't want
to get it wrong with you.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
And I was like, whoa, whoa. Like, who am I?
Let's have it. But once again, I went in the studio,
same thing again. And like a lot of opportunities in
my life have greeted me and I was in the
wrong headspace. You know, I spent a lot of my
life like plenty fucked up a lot of the time
and whatever else trying to deal with whatever the nasty
beast inside wants to tell me I am or I'm not.

(47:39):
And yeah, that bit's quite hard to deal with. And
if you don't get out of your own way, it's...
nigh on impossible, but I wish I'd shown him something
because I know I have everything if you want to
see it.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Was that the reason you feel like you didn't get
a chance to show him your process and your work
because you were still.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
I'm looking at Pharrell Williams banging around on the keyboard
singing songs. I'm like, this is the coolest experience ever.
It was a one-man show with Pharrell, but I was like,
I wish I had put some influence on there so
he could show it. I wrote some of the biggest
songs of all time. I have plaques at home for
that crap. Why am I walking in there green in
the gills and my fingers suddenly don't work?

Speaker 5 (48:11):
Just in the little bit I've gotten to know you, I'm...
I would assume that it in part has to do
with how respectful you are, right? You want to be
respectful of the legend, right?

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Do your thing. Who am I?

Speaker 4 (48:22):
The new young kid to come in.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
It's the imposter syndrome thing again as well.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
What am I doing here?

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I was about to say that. You're going to play
piano for Pharrell? Yeah.

Speaker 6 (48:29):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (48:30):
I've never been taught. I learned by ear. I couldn't
afford that.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
I think I would, and I'll tell you why. I
don't take things seriously. I try not to... My biggest
fear is I had really, really.

Speaker 6 (48:44):
Bad panic attacks when I was a kid because of this.
When I walk in a room and I would regret
not doing something. I would have really, really bad fears
of it.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
You got reverse FOMO.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
From being in the moment.

Speaker 6 (48:54):
I'd rather be myself and have them make fun of
who I really am than me hide who I really
am and then they even like it.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
I would hate it more if they liked the pretend.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
Version of me.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
I'm such a social chameleon. I've been on TV for
my accent changing just because I don't know, it's just whatever.
I have to be careful what films I watch sometimes
because I might walk out the house as a different person.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
That's so interesting.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
I'm definitely clinically insane, but they just haven't copped onto
it yet. just don't tell them that we'll cut that
bit out this is getting.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
Clipped for sure bro I mean how could you not
be man you've had a crazy life and you probably
had to be a bit of a social chameleon you're
always in different rooms talking to different people and it's
the name.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Of the game and like I told you earlier the
moment for me is never about me when we're talking
or if there's a fan that wants a picture or
somebody wants to come over, the moment's about them having
their five minutes. So whoever they want me to be
for that five minutes, I'll be, depending on the industry guidelines.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
What'd you do to work on those.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Industry guidelines.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
What'd you do to work on those... What'd you do
to work on those demons that you were facing for
so long?

Speaker 1 (50:00):
They're probably right behind me, but they're still a bit away.
In the plant. Yeah, they're catching up a little bit,
little fuckers. No, I don't know. What work have I
done on my demons? I'm happy with who I am
and I'm happy with the person I've grown into. Regrets,
do I have some? Probably yes in certain ways, being
like that Pharrell session, but there are only regrets that
are actually like supersonic level. That would have been funny

(50:22):
if I did that, you know what I mean? And
I'm happy with everything that I've been through to get
to this stage and whether people judge me for it
or not, to me, I really don't care anymore. I've
lost the point of caring. I'm just like, This is
who I am. If you want to join the crowd
and come and learn some shit, then you're more than welcome.
If not, then that's good for you.

Speaker 5 (50:40):
You were in arguably one of the most popular boy
bands and music groups ever for a very long time.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
And it still doesn't feel like that.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Well, unfortunately, it happened. It happened.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
I knew it wasn't a dream.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
That's where you sit. Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
What are we doing here?

Speaker 7 (50:59):
Who are you?

Speaker 4 (51:00):
I'm Jake Paul.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Jake Paul's brother. How you doing? How you doing? People
ran up to Mike today. They're like, Logan, big fan.
And I was like, there's no way. To Mike? To Mike.
And then I think we found out that they may
have been trolling. But when they did it to me,
I was like.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Did you see the Floyd?

Speaker 3 (51:14):
I said, did you see the Floyd fight? What did
you think? He says, he goes, you did so good.
You lasted all the rounds. And I go, first of all,
that's two lies.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
It's not Michael.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
I mean, he's not like, yeah, he did it. I
just rolled with it.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
That's confusing the hell out of me. I'm glad you,
I almost impersonated on a red carpet once. I was
doing Fifty Shades of Grey. And the woman started asking
me loads of questions. And I was doing a song.
And I had a bald head at the same time
Jamie Dornan did. And I'm stood there and she goes, now,
how is it filming the sex scenes? I said to her, well,
I don't know. I haven't seen the film yet. and

(51:45):
she keeps asking me these questions and really intimate questions
and I regret it so deeply now that I didn't
just ruin his life because I could have done but
I was like I said hang on who the fuck
do you think I am she went oh you're him
I went no no no no no I'm him but
I could have just gone in and like yeah it
was really awkward actually yeah I could have really ruined
his life imagine I just ruined would you do that

(52:05):
now no I wouldn't he's a nice guy Jamie actually
he's good and to get compared to him I'll take
it um um We've gone off on a tangent. I
want to talk to you about the Mayweather fight.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Oh, you're screwed. Now can I ask?

Speaker 4 (52:18):
No, I asked mine first.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
No, I'm just kidding. It's true.

Speaker 5 (52:21):
Because I remember it. I'm a podcast host. I'm a
professional at this point. I remember my question.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
I know.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
You remember your questions.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
I can lead you back into it. No, I remember it.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Do you remember what day it is? Sorry, what were
we talking about? Anyone know?

Speaker 4 (52:30):
Not nothing.

Speaker 7 (52:30):
23.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Floyd Mayweather. Mom? Five, seven. Fifty Shades of Grey.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Demons in the plant.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
See how professional he is.

Speaker 7 (52:35):
Go.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
All right.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
You remember this big boy, man. And you're perceived a
certain way. It fizzles, whatever. You break up, whatever you
want to call it.

Speaker 5 (52:43):
And now you are posed with the task of creating
an identity, a real identity as an individual.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
And, and, and you're.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
Here now and you've done a great job, but I
can imagine that that was a little scary, right? People
care about you as an entity, but as a solo,
as a solo artist, as a, as an, you know,
celebrity influencer, whatever the fuck you want to call yourself.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Do people care?

Speaker 4 (53:06):
And how do you make them care? Let me throw
this out.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Let me throw this out. So I came out the band.
And said, my dad called me. Oh, yeah, here we go.
You're going to go solo. It's been his dream since
I was a kid. His dream. And I said, I'll
only do it if the right song comes along. Otherwise,
I'm not bothered. I don't want to tarnish the legacy.
I have already. I've done something that's already worldwide famous.
And I've got fucking gold records. So I said, I
don't need to do this. It's not important to me.

(53:29):
Ed Sheeran wrote me this song. And I thought, oh, shit.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Oh, no.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Here we bloody well go again. Here we go, boys.
Put your shorts up. Off we pop. And yeah, we
did the first song. Billion Streams. I think it outsold
everybody within the band when I was the last to go.
And I never expected that. And I'm sat there going,
it's gone rather well, hasn't it? Then how do you
go from there? You know, it was like, how do

(53:53):
you go from there? And I didn't know, I still
don't know who I am. I replicate different people on
a daily basis. I still don't know who I am.
That's the worst part of it because it's like selling
an identity to people that, I'm me, so I can
only sell me. And then the different thing was I'd
just gone out of the writing zone I don't want
to say why, but I'd stopped writing in that sense.
And it was more difficult to write for my own

(54:13):
project because I was like trying to pull from my
own life, which is also very vastly confused. A boy
who's been locked in a hotel room since he was
15 years old. So I don't even know what I like.
So what can I write songs about?

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Or is that the best? You said it's the worst part.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
The worst part.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Maybe it's the best part.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
No, I mean, I've had a fantastic career. I think
to date at the moment, I've done six and a
half billion streams worldwide, right? It's amazing. I'm so happy
for it. I didn't want to do it because I just,
I knew what was going to happen to me within
the process of it. But yeah, I mean, it's been
a great, interesting journey. And also having, you know, four
of the boys that we, I mean, there's one record

(54:48):
that we have for being one of the only bands
in history to have every member in the top 40
in the American charts beating Fleetwood Mac, beating so-and-so. Like,
when you name stuff like that, it's like, wow, like,
and that's a group effort, by the way. But yeah,
I mean, it's, for me, it's, I don't even know
if I wanted to be a solo artist, but I
just did it. because it was there to do and
whatever else, where I was like, going and joining these things.

(55:09):
I've had more fun in the last few weeks playing
football than everything else. But the new project I just started,
which I do want to talk about a little bit,
I'm amped about.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (55:17):
I don't want to give away too much, but I
used to produce for the band when I was a kid,
so we used to do these remixes called Big Pano Remixes.
I like when someone puts big in front of your name,
it definitely means something.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
And.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
So I used to make these remixes as a kid
and slightly swindled by the label. I'm sure we've all
heard that before. I didn't get paid anymore for them.
I just did them because I loved them. And they
put them out and I was known as DJ Paynow.
But I've literally been producing since I was 15 years old.
So I've made these songs in the last few weeks
and signed up to a record label that I really
enjoy their style of music. And I think this next

(55:52):
chapter for me seems so free and exactly what I
want to do. I don't want to be a touring artist.
I've got a son at home. I don't want to
travel the world on a bus and smell and do
whatever else. Again, I've done it to death. I don't
want to be number one. It doesn't bother me 1%.
I want to make something that when I turn it
on and the room goes.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
I'm already doing it.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
It's happening right now.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
That's just my throat, right? Exactly.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
We listen to the actual song and it's just his throat.
That's my next thing that's good. That's fine. What I
used to like.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
About Drake was that he's at every party in the
world without going to one of them. But I want
to go somewhere where you make the room bounce and
you get that stinky bass face going. And for the
first time ever in my life today, I was alone
in my house, actually. Thank you very much, you two.
And thanks for not picking up the FaceTime calls when
I was trying to celebrate. And thanks for being here.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
I mean, dude, you head-bunted him.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Well, thanks for being here. You look all the better
for it. Yeah, so I made one the other day
in my house that I was like, wow, because I'd
sat down with these proper, proper dance heads and I
knew what they wanted. And it was like that re-ignition
of that One Direction thing again. I know what you want.
I can make that. So yeah, watch this space. We'll
see what happens.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
So cool, dude. I like sticky bass face.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Sticky bass face.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
I got a question for you. At what point in
the process, touring, being locked in hotel rooms... doing that
with your drink where the ice like bops around. I'm angry.
I'm angry. Like this. Did you ever think you'd be
on Logan Paul's podcast? Like at what fucking point, dude?
Jake Paul's brother. Like, come on.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Jake Paul's brother? You can't even introduce him.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (57:39):
It's a thing.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
We do it. It's a thing.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
He's Liam Payne's brother. Liam Paul's brother. No, to be
honest with you, I didn't. I've watched you boys from
afar for a very long time. And also, I wanted
to get this out there as well. Like, I understand
there's a slight theory to what you do. And the
only reason I understand it, and I've spoken to this
many times with many people, and I did something wrong
in my career when I started. So when I started,

(58:01):
my first beat was a Rack City beat with a rapper,
and I was singing just dim light stuff. So I
went out and I bought the biggest gold chain going.
I still have it. I used to wear it everywhere.
And I'm a white guy from Wolverhampton City in England.
No one nose and whatever and i used to get
ridiculed daily the more i get ridiculed the more i'd
be like well i don't need another chain to add
to the other chain that we're already wearing and i
go around this way and it was almost doing what

(58:24):
you guys did in a way at the start of
your career where you were trying to push the limit
so much it's almost a little bit like jackass in
a way you're trying to push the limit trying to
push the limits and then one point you met the
limit you couldn't push anymore and then it was like
whoa now the world's turned upside down what the fuck
are we gonna do right okay what I can say
about you more than anything, I was malleable. I let
people around me change me and change who I was.
Whereas I know deep down inside this to the boy

(58:44):
wearing a fucking chain. He doesn't give a fuck.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Right. With you, you stuck at it, but you, you,
you did the right thing in that. You learned from
what happened and you came back stronger. You didn't give
up on what you were and you grew from it.
That's what people want to see. They want to see
growth and they go, you know what?

Speaker 4 (58:59):
He's all right.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Him.

Speaker 6 (59:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
He's done well.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
No, no, it's a real story. It is.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
That's that. and a genuine i'm wrong but no you're.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
Right i can't bro you're very fucking wise very astute
um no there's a there's a real genuine arc full
of uh wins and and more probably significantly failures you
know and and it's all in the public eye it's
all stuff that we you know we don't mean proud
of no you see you don't get caught i get
caught because i feel.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
My life you don't get caught for too long you
might get caught later on yeah no you're right you're right.

Speaker 5 (59:29):
You're right nah nah see my mistakes are there like
they're there like there's nothing nothing's gonna bleed through it's
all and that's that gives me comfort in saying that
as well but um no dude it's like watching watching
what you've been able to do and watching what your
bandmates have been able to do and like It's really inspiring.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
I think we're part of a really special generation. And
being on that panel today.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
As much as there's a difference in the careers we do,
I don't think there's as much of a difference in
the careers we do, if that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
I mean, bro, I'm going to be honest with you.

Speaker 5 (59:56):
You have a superpower in your ability to sing, which
is the one thing that is.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
At the end of the day, you're a very fucking
talented performer and musician. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
My only real asset is my brain.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Do you want to swap?

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
You don't want to do that. I actually do.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
I actually would.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Why don't we do, why don't we do, why don't
we do like, we can get like a neuroscientist to
do like half a brain.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Dr.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
So you'll be like fucking, Dr.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Amen. We do that kind of stuff in LA.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
The other guy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Please.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
If I could change my thing, I would love to
have a voice.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
I would pay someone to come and spend some time
in this motherfucker and just see how long it lasts.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
No, see, that scares me. That scares me, though.

Speaker 7 (01:00:37):
See?

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
That scares me.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
That's true. I'm pretty stable. That's the one thing. I'm
pretty stable.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
I know. I'm stable to a degree.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
I want to get back to your unstable desire to
fight people. Who would you fight? Who do you want
to fight?

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Who do I want to fight? Who don't we like?

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
Who don't we like?

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Who don't we like? There's not many people I don't like.
There's not many people I don't like. For me, I'm like,
I just enjoy the challenge. I enjoy the road up
to it, whatever else.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Would you fight KSI?

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
I mean, whose dish do you want me to smash in?

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Would you fight KSI? Huh? KSI?

Speaker 6 (01:01:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Really?

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
He could fight.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
He'd have to come down a few weight slots.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
I don't think he could do it. It's a lie.
And he could fight, bro. You don't want to fight him.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
He could fight. No, I'd fight him.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Well, then you could fight him, then, too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
No, no, no. I like him too much, though.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Fight Jake.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Oh. Would I have to come up weight slots, or
would he come down? Is he going to Conor McGregor
and come down and be like this?

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
He could come down, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:01:37):
Ooh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Ooh.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Don't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Don't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Don't put a hurtin' on your brother now.

Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
Don't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
Don't do it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
The American accent's my favorite that you do, by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
I have all of them.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
Don't want a part of the hurtin' on your brother now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Don't want to put a hurtin' on your little brother now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
It's always Southern. Always Southern.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Oh, of course.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Bro, that's what the world thinks of us.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
That's what the world thinks of us.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
You're like, burgers. Like, dude, don't, like, I feel like, dude,
I don't talk like that. Burgers, chump, chump.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Yeah, but then, like, everyone thinks that we're like Tom Hardy.
All right, then, mate. Tell me, mate.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
You've got a fucking clue, haven't you, mate?

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
You've got a fucking clue.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Tom Hardy as Bane was.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Oh, so you think the darkness is your ally. I
was born in the dark, molded by it, shaped by it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
That was weird.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
It can get weirder.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
Sorry about that, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
She had this literally all night last night. Like, when
I get a bit wasted sometimes, my best defense mechanism
so I don't get scared of myself is to start
to pretend to be other people. And I noticed this,
I had to do a show once in the London Dungeons.
And when I was in the London Dungeons, people like
jump out on you and I was dressed as Captain
Jack Sparrow. And when I was me, everyone that jumped out,
I was like really like shit scared of. But every
time I went, I'm not going around with you, mate.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
I said, listen, if anyone's seen my ship ride, the
pearl is somewhere over there, mate.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Amber Heard is shivering somewhere right now. Amber Heard is shitting.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Her pants right now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Shitting her bed. She's shitting the bed.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
I've never heard or seen of Amber Heard, mate. I've
never heard or seen of her.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
That is incredible. Let's just let him do this the
rest of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
This could go on for hours. I'd be really careful
what you wish for. Or how much RAM you've got.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
Dude, that's fantastic. You would never do acting?

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Well, I mean... If Disney wanted a new Captain Jack,
I would always be up for that, Mike. Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
The new Jack Sparrow.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Something tells me they're bringing him back, man. Something tells
me Johnny Depp is about to make one of the biggest.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
That could work.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
That would be so funny.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
That could work.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
Jack Sparrow has an evil twin.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Dude, I just don't get how....

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
Never mind.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
What don't you get? No, never mind. Finish your sentence.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
It's so unrelated, bro, but I've been thinking about it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
That's impulsive.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
I just don't, like, I.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Was that an accent?

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
Can you fill me in? When Amber heard... Oh, fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
We're not going down that road.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
No, no, no, no, no. Please go on.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
No, I can't, I can't, I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Cut the shit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Parley. Parley. Parley.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
Cut the shit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Let's not talk about that. It's not my problem.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
Cut the shit. No, it's not right. I just was wondering.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
Parley. Parley.

Speaker 6 (01:04:18):
Parley.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Everybody stop.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
All right, you know what?

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Fuck it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Let's talk about Chris Rock and Will Smith.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Let's definitely not talk about that either.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
Parley.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Everyone just stop for a minute while I drink some
whiskey and center myself before we talk about more crap
about my life. All right, okay?

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
It's very crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
Just constant entertainment for you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
He called out a certain person to fight before the
show started. I just want to get into the guy
you said before the show.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
Who'd you say?

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
I'll fight whoever you want.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
We told you we had him on the show one time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Who? Johnny Depp. I'm not fighting Johnny Depp. He's a freak.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
No, not Johnny Depp. He's a freak. He was a rapper,
an American rapper.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
Oh, Takashi.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
No, not 6ix9ine. It was Trippie Redd.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
He doesn't want the smoke.

Speaker 7 (01:05:04):
No. No.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
I think he does want the smoke. He's always high.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
That's a big problem for him, though, because I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
I really do think a fight between you and Bieber
could be really interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
I would buy merch.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
No shit. It would be one of the biggest fights ever.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
I don't think he'd do it. I think he'd be
very skilled to do it. No, I'm not calling him
a pussy. I just don't think he'd do it. Why?
For the same reason I wouldn't fight Trippie Redd. I'm
not his level.

Speaker 6 (01:05:29):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
I don't think he'd do it. But if he did
want to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
You think Bieber's not at your level?

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
I don't bloody well know, do I? I'm off Captain Depp, mate.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
You see, he's pretending to be someone else again. He
said he does that. When he gets in certain situations,
he just pretends he's Johnny Depp right now.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
You wouldn't know when I got these scars.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
Oh, no. He just keeps changing, bro. This is incredible.
He's like, remember when I said I had demons? It's schizophrenia.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
No, it is just straight up. Actually, I've got a
company that's almost cured that, so hopefully, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:06:00):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
You've got a lot of companies. A few companies.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
I'm big in biotech.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
I'm mostly concerned with the skin care, obviously.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
The skin care, we can deal with that. I've got
a small routine for you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
Paul and Pauls.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Paul and Pauls. Paul, Paul, and Paul, Paul, Pauls.

Speaker 5 (01:06:15):
By the way, I'm going to name my youngest child Paul,
and his middle name will be Paul.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
I thought you were going to say your name after
me then, and I thought, why the fuck would you
do that?

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
I'm going to have a bunch, but my runt will
be named Paul, Paul, Paul.

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
Runt?

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
He's going to be a runt.

Speaker 6 (01:06:28):
Why?

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
Because he's the youngest. He's a runt.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
That's what a runt is? No, the runt's the smallest
of the bunch.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
You're already bullying your youngest child.

Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
No, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
It's the smallest born puppy. It's the smallest, not the youngest.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Google that shit.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Dude, that's why I call people a runt.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
I want a Pokemon card if you get it wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
A Charizard, 10.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Whichever one.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
A runt is the weakest one out.

Speaker 6 (01:06:44):
Of the group.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Smallest.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
It's the smallest one, mate. It's the one that can't
get to the food.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
And not the weakest. The runts are usually the, they
have to show up because they're the smallest.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Yeah, they grow into little beasties. Oh, hang on. That's
a very, you don't know the way you put that
phone down there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
You read something but didn't share it out loud.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Have we been corrected yet? Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
Which Pokemon card are you giving her?

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Which one are you going to give me? And don't
make it a Squirtle.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
Our run is the smallest. You were both right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
You owe me a Pokemon card.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Charizard.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
It can't be one of them zone cards where they
change into random crap. I want a good level.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
I'll give you a good one. I got a bunch.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
.

Speaker 5 (01:07:17):

.

Speaker 4 (01:07:22):

.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):

.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):

.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):

.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Why are you laughing at me? Is that what really
propels the dude?

Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
So, do you know Pokemon?

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Yeah, mate.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
Okay, so this is the one. It's a Dugtrio.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Oh, he's a Dugtrio, but he's got my body.

Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
Because he's dug in the ground. He's dug in the ground,
but that's what's happened in Underground.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
No!

Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
That's not a Pokemon card. That's just porn for weirdos.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Did you say porn? What is that, bro?

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Not weirdos for people who are into particular things.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
I typed in Dugtrio penis meat.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Discriminate.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
Doug Trio penis. Why did you Google that? My history
is weird.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Bro, do you want to dive in? That should be
an internet show.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Show your history. We'll all be fucked, won't we?

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
Beeple toy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
I met Beeple again last night.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
He's great.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Bloody brilliant, Beeple. He's fucking awesome, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
I had such a wild time.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
I hope he's all right, though. I hope people are
taking good care of him because he's a good kid.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
I wouldn't say a kid.

Speaker 6 (01:08:39):
No, no.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
You know what I mean, though? I don't mean that
in a derogatory way.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
Can I ask you a question? The elephant in the room.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
What elephant?

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Why are you in Minneapolis at a Web3 conference? I'm sorry.
I completely forgot to ask you this.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
I am here because I had a phone call with
Gary Vee, and I phoned him.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
It happens all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Bollocks. I had a phone call with Gary Vee and
basically I was phoning him to help me out with
my NFT project. And I really like the project. So
I did the drawing myself. Everything that I do is
self-drawing and then new characters, the new characters I make myself.
And I phoned him and he answered the phone on
Zoom and was like, right, you've got 15 minutes. Don't
ask me to do an NFT. And I was like, well, bollocks.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
Oh, man.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
That's left me out on a stick now because I
don't know what to say.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
Time limit?

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
So then we started to talk to him about what
we were doing. He's like, yo, I've been at home
drawing toys too, the same as I was. And then
he linked with that. And then we showed him the
whole mental health process and what we were going through
with it and whatever else. And he's like, I love
this project. He's like, I'm going to spit some fire
bars for you guys. This is 45 minutes in of
the 15 minutes I was supposed to have. I got
triple the time.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
And our.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
nft was out before gary's any of the v friends
so if you want to buy the one of one
gary it you're buying it from me to be honest
with you i am the original the friend you can
befriend me uh via uh what's the website called v
friends no it wasn't on v friends it was on
my own stuff um but yeah he he did he
did some bars let's say gary he did like a

(01:10:01):
child yeah child it's really good and i had zed
make the music and i had a bunch of people
on the back helping silly gabe And basically the win-off
for me was that I got my name in an
art gallery somewhere from a picture I drew. But I
owe Gary, so I'm here because of the fact that
I owe him. He asked me to come and talk
on the panel. I don't let people down. And yeah,
he asked me to come out and do this. And
also I support the creative. And what I like about

(01:10:22):
these places with NFT culture more than anything is one
of the seven deadly sins is greed, right? I believe
we need to use greed against ourselves to get to
the ring because we can't deny our own ambition, right?
But as a strong section of the community... Community being
one of the most beautiful words in the British language
that wants to help each other. And everyone I speak
to is going, I've got this project where I'm doing so-and-so, so-and-so. Oh, great.

(01:10:43):
You know what? I know a guy that does so-and-so.
All the people that are here right now, they only
want to help. And this is a 10-year game. This
is a 15-year game, 20-year game, however long you want
to say it. You understand what I'm saying, right? This
Web3 stuff is so far away. And that's what bothers
me about it ever so slightly. It's like you already
have multiverse technology, but we have one universe that we
live in. Start here and move outwards.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
The issue I've had, and I love that, and community
is the biggest part of Web3 and NFTs by far.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
And everyone wants to help each other, but there's a
huge thing of this monetary greed that goes on in
the background, and that's just for people who are shilling
and minting.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
But then there's a lot of that, and so my
question is this, because as I've walked around, I've been
here for two days, or a day and a half
in this beautiful city, and like, You go to the
bathroom and somebody comes up to you with dusted ducks.
Exactly what I thought was going to happen. You go
to the next room, burnt bikinis. That happened to me
five times yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
I only got three burnt bikinis.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
Burnt bikinis.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
Burnt bikinis. Dusty ducks.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
How do you make sense of what's what?

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Dude, you should just make names up for a living.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
He's good.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
He's solid. Give me one more. Toasted. Put on the
spot and fail. Put on the spot and fail. Toasted turds.
Toasted turds.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
That's a worthy lunch. Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
Toasted turds.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
Are people pitching you projects? NFT projects?

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Dude, I'm going to make toast. I'm going to go
home and I'm going to make toasted turds the biggest
thing in a teaser scene. I'm going to pay as
many people as I can and just be like, throw
the money at the wall. Make toasted turds a thing.
And they pop out of a little toaster, like little
turds with different faces. And every time they pop out,
they're a little different.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
You use a different shade of shit? You use the
exact sound effect? What is happening?

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
What is happening?

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
50 shades of shit. That's so funny. That could be
one of them. 50 shades of shit. And when it
pops out, you use the sound effect from when that
guy choked out the dude in the jujitsu studio. That
little fart that he let out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
You're not on board with this project. As your creative
manager that I've been thrust into today.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
It's surprising.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
You don't want to talk about NFTs.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
This is my first read.

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
No, it just couldn't.

Speaker 6 (01:12:34):
No, no.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
Dude, I get approached. I get approached. I got approached.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Okay, we're approaching you right now with a toasted toast.

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
I'm going to tell y'all exactly what I tell every
fucking person that's approached me at this conference.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Don't embarrass me in front of my friends, man.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
This idea is the shit. We've got a Discord with
15,000 in it. This idea is the shit.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
The double deuce.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
50 shades of shit.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
Don't do this to me. 50 shades, bro. Don't do
this to me. Please, not now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
We haven't told you about the utility. I can't do
this right now. We haven't told you about the utility.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Bro, you get a free, like, Toilet wipe.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Forever.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
You get a firm wipe.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
It comes with a bidet. The Discord's got 15,000. You
get one angel poo a day. There's a coin attached
to it. A shit coin.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
You get one angel poo a day.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
So that's why he's here.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
You could get a royal flush if you get all
of the turds.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
We have a theme song too.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
This is my... Go ahead. All of it sucks.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Here come the toasted turds. We rap using words. We
like animals. Don't wear furs. Guitar turds. Are you in
or out? We're still working on the music. Are you
in or out? Dude, we're sitting here.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
What the fuck is happening?

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
No! Stop!

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
My least favorite part of this podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
You know what? Fuck this, dog.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
I'm ending this shit podcast with Toast to Turds, guys.
Toast to Turds. We're shilling the project right now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Oh, you cannot say that part. That part right now.
Let me say this really quick. No one on this show,
no one on this show has any.
No one on the show has any affiliation. Doesn't matter
what nation. We don't do Toast... Okay, listen. I want
to say this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Better not change your motherfucking station. We're coming up right now.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
I want to say this. You want to say this
right now?

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
No, actually, go.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
I have to say this. No one on the show
has any affiliation with Toasted Turds. If the project does
come to fruition, it's not us. I swear to God, SEC,
like they're going to sample this. You know, it's going
to get made now. A hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Yeah. Pull up on a scene.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
That is hot. Little stinky and motherfucking dream.

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
Woo!

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
All right, fuck it, actually.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
Go to open seat. Go to open seat.
.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):

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