March 4, 2026 • 37 mins
On this week's In Service Of, Grammy-nominated rockers Amyl and the Sniffers sit down with Steve Baltin to talk about touring with AC/DC, Jagermeister, their breakout year and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, it's e Bulk.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You're welcome to and service up Grammy Week where this
week we are joined by Grammy Almenies in the best
Rock category, A Meal and the Snippers CORECT pleasure to
talk to them about opening for ac DC Life in
Australia so much more.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Really fun conversation from one of the most exciting young
rock bands in music today. I hope you enjoy this
one as much as I did. Well, how do you
(00:47):
spend a couple of days off in LA Not that
there's ever a couple of days off because you're talking
to assholes like me, but you know, I.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
What have I've been doing. I've actually been shooting in
a music video, so I've just been doing all the
the word crap.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
As I said, there's no days are It's kind of like,
you know, I have so many friends who play festivals
and you know, many things. It's called a career of
the glamorous. And then you're backstage. You spend the whole
time in your fucking dressing.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Room and the and the dressing room is like a
shipping container with like one bottle of fucking vodka.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
At least you has a vodka.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
That Oh yeah, true, you gotta you gotta try and
swindle some writer.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I have no problem with that, you know, because at
this point I know enough people. But yeah, so wait,
what what festivals have the best? You know, Vodkas in
the dressing room are the best dressing room drinks.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
You know what Prima Viverra sound in bar Alona. They
got their own little cocktail bar, so you know that's
pretty good.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Declan, what are your appears? I like?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I like, yeah, I like Prima in Barcelona too. There's
a festival I can't remember it as the Netherlands, but
they were great for they were kind of enough to
let me drink a whole bottle of yega misa. So
that was good.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
That sounds painful.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I'm not gonna why.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Funnily enough, it took a lot of.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
The pain away. How old were Yeah, yeah, he's.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Putting on your socks or something.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
I'm rolling my pants up. I'm pulling my socks up
after drinking that. Yeah, Gamester, actually I'm pulling my socks up.
I was twenty.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
So how is the tour return style of going?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
We haven't started it, but it looks like they're having fun.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Saturday's the first show.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Today's the first show.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, do you know them well? Have you played with
them before? Are you friends?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I know, I know, I'm a little bit as in
like we passed each other at a festival and the
bass player we've all hung out with a little bit,
But I don't think, Yeah, we kind of know each
other in passing, but I think we'll get to know
each other a bit on this one.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Are the favorite bonding activities on tour with other bands
you've toured with?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Because it's so funny.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I mean, it's like I've talked to so many bands
but and it just covers the craziest ray of stuff
from like bands on Warped Tour playing dungeons dragons, to
barbecues to like, you know whatever. So for you guys,
where are they sometimes?
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Like sometimes sport is a good one, but sometimes it
can be as simple as just a member from each
band being a smoker, so they have cigarettes together sometimes.
I can say this because I'm in California. There's the
stoners as well, so sometimes they bond over marijuana. Usually
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the vocalists have a lot to talk about with each other.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, we love having a chat the vocalists because all
vocalists lose your voice, but you're also the most chatter
box in the bands, so we're always like, I got
my fucking voice, and then we like chatting about that,
so that's always nice. I'll like talking about you know,
eyeshadow and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah, yeah, that's so funny.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I was doing a story with the band five Finger
Death Punch and they were talking about like what their
conversations are after is the guitarist who's the founder of
the band. It's really into quantum mechanics, so it varies
very greatly, and so you're like eyeshadow, so it just
you know, there is like it just goes all over
the place.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, it does. I'll have a game we like to play.
But you know the band the Cosmic Psychos, No, I don't. Actually, well,
they're awesome. They taught us this game. I don't know
if I'll tell you all about it because it's a
bit of a trade secret. But I've all putting a
coin up your button trying to get it in a cup.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
That sounds like a game you do after drinking a
bottle of Giegermeistern.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So well, whenever, it's a fun game, family friendly too.
You're wearing pants, it's more about the clinching.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I mean, you wouldn't believe the ship that I well,
you probably would believe this stuff. You know, it takes
a lot to Uh. There was one band that was
telling me there was one singer who was telling about
drinking his wife's pee. That fucking grossed me out. And
then there was another one who was talking about crossing
their peace streams And I'm.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Like, dude, now is that a bonding?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I just say what they were doing on the road,
and I'm just like, no Ah, nope, amazing. What's the
craziest thing you guys have heard or done?
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Oh, I don't know, it's always well, I mean, I
don't know if we can file anything under crazy. We're
just used to it.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Now. Before you got on the road, you probably were
not used to putting coins in your button clenching, so,
you know, so.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
You'd be surprised.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
We didn't have any money to put up there back then.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So at this point, have you spent a lot of
time in the US twenty twenty five, I was watching
a KHP show, which was amazing.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, we've spent a bit of time here. We've done
like I think it was like thirty three shows or
something like that back in July or whenever. It was
June July, probably even before that. April, you can do
it that when what is it May? In April?
Speaker 5 (06:30):
It was, it was March April, and then we had
two weeks off and then we did May.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah. So yeah, we've been touring here, but we have
a bringing out. We've been all over the place.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Well, I know you spend a lot of the summer.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
In Europe though, yeah, I guess we did.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
But it's interesting. The reason I ask you is, it's
funny because I've talked about so many artists till coming
out of the music and it's like, you know, songs
change all the time, they're more and of course fans
adoubt their favorites songs, you know, and like you might
have an idea of like I love this song, but
a fan will say, no, this is my favorite, you know.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
And so for you.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Guys, are those songs that you are now looking to
revisit with because the other thing, of course, the Turnstile
fans are different. They're gonna know your stuff, but it's
not entirely your audience. So it's kind of like I've
talked to so many bands about this as well. There's
a real joy and challenge and like winning over a
new audience because it's like, you know, like I've talked
to bands who play festivals and it's like they love
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the challenge of not playing to their audience for sure.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So for you guys, are the songs that you're really
excited to see how these fans adapt to them, or
that the songs have changed for you say you're just
excited to revisit them.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I don't know, well, yeah, well we always just kind
of got through the catalog, like play whatever, usually change
the set list up a little bit most nights. I
think tnstyle audiences look real high energy, so they'll probably
like the high energy stuff that we do revisiting songs,
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will we. I don't really not say about that.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Uh yeah, So for you guys, would have been the
favorite of you live this year so far.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I like doing. I like doing tiny Bikini Lives. That's
real fun. I also like doing like I liked doing
Capital and doing in my Head and stuff like that.
The more kind of like, I guess they're a bit heavier,
you know.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
It's funny though, I was watching one of the YouTube videos,
Like I said, I was watching KSP, but then I
was also watching highlights of the Glassobery set and I
was talking about you know, fans were like talking about
the energy of the live show and you know how
much they enjoyed it. I'm curious for you, you guys
who have been the live shows that you really enjoyed her,
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that you really watched when you were younger, then inspired
you as a performer. And it's funny because one of
the comments said, like the greatest punk performer, and I'm like,
there are two people who immediately come to mind that are, like,
you know, just the benchmark for punk performance. So I'm
curious who you guys think.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
For me, it was like, yeah, the Cosmic Psychos ACDC,
Like I didn't see ACDC live, but I really liked
their music and their performances and like a lot of
Australian stuff really like we were listening to a lot
of the Saints and like Colored Balls, not that we
sound like that, and performance wise, I don't know, I
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guess like in the early days it was just local
stuff really, like we didn't really I didn't really pay
much attention to anything outside of the actual local scene
that we were going to see live because that was
kind of just what was around at the time, So
bands like you know, fuzz Sucker and Drunk Mums and
Dump to just Melbourne bands, you know. But I was like, fuck,
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these guys are all so cool. That was really the
origins of all of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
So if you guys, have you been surprised then to like,
you know, get out of there and play these shows
and like ding you do a bunch of shows opening
for a CDC and how crazy was that?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Then?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
No, the ACDC tour that started, that's in November. We're
luckily doing tans start at a CDC, so we're gonna
probably have to tailor a lot of our set to
a CDC fans because I kind of can't imagine there's
many crossover.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
So have you met DEMIEA Now.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Not in real life, in my dreams yet.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Wait, because I also love a CDC. It's one of
the greatest shows in the world. And I finally got
to interview them like two years ago.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So if you guys have a.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Jam on like one ACYI song with them, what would
it be?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Oh, I'd love to do an outro solo and whole
lot of Rosie.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
You know, yeah, to stop him.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, so it's true. Oh sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Oh yeah, no, it's true. And wist up as well.
You know, if it feels good, keep doing it, Amy,
What about you?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Oh let's go jale break. We'll go jail break today,
just fucking boom. You know.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Have you seen the videos of their live performances.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, definitely saying him like three times this year, I think, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
I've seen him twice this year. I saw them in
Pasadena and I saw them in Madrid in Spain.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Those are pretty opposite.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Yes, again, yeah the road you know, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Madrid was amazing. It's yeah, like that crowd was just
you know, doing like the whole la thing ole O
leyo layole and that was just like insane. That was
like kind of interesting. How them as an audience, they're
like sixty thousand, but they're like singular, you know what
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I mean, they're together. When you're in Pasadena, it's kind
of like, yeah, like I paid for this seat, buddy,
you better not smoke next much.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Did you showed me deck one of them playing in
South America somewhere.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Argentina, Argentina, Yeah, Buenos Aires?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah? What what it's craziest YouTube video of them playing
in Buenos Aires, and it's just like the whole crowd
is just like, you know, like my how don't know,
like thirty thousand and sixty thousand whatever it is, one
hundred million thousand, and they're all just like fully throbbing
up and down. It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
So are they still bringing out the sixty four inflatable woman?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
A whole lot of rosie?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
She's led now?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Okay, But it's funny because that's what's I mean. The
thing is like, that's what made them special, is like
they just were so over the top, but in a
really fun way, like you know, literally shooting off the
fucking cannons and for those abouts are rock real cannons.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Yeah, it's so cool.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So okay, because you know, you said you want to
do the outside a whole lot of rosie, you know.
But it's interesting you mentioned the crowd going crazy, butnos
airis and it's funny. I was again watching different videos.
I saw like one where you were doing Knafe and
they were just women singing along in the front. How
inspiring is that for you? When you have like girls
like it was younger girls who were just like screaming
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along the words.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, I think it's more emotional than inspiring, because all
across the world, I'm seeing women who ah, that song
resonates with them for reasons that I'm sure are not
good reasons. It's for reasons that they relate to that
song that it makes me. I guess it feels powerful
because we're looking at each other and feeling the same things,
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but also makes me feel emotional because I feel that
it's issues that go all across the world that make
women relate to that song, which is really important.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
You know, definitely for you are the songs that you're
inspired by the audience response, because again, you know, people
gravitate to you. And you know, one thing I've talked
about with so many people picked their songs for so
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many different reasons. It's weird.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Like I did a book a couple of years ago
called Antheons We.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Love, and I spoke to Graham Nash about Our House
and Daryl Hall about Sarah Smile, and those were songs
literally written for one person that millions of people gravitate to.
You are like as in everything A songwriter about a
song she wrote for a grandmother who spokes and drinks
and she's like, I thought no one would like that song,
but it turns out everybody has a fucking grandmother books
of drinks. So what have been the songs for you
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guys that you've been like, it's about my six cousin,
you know, who has three fingers, and everybody's like, there's
a cool song ever written?
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Oh, I'm not sure. I think like Knife as well?
For me, is it's the same, Like it's emotional. We
did like an all ages show in Melbourne and uh yeah,
to just see like, you know, these young girls like
singing along to it and screaming it. You know, it
was like it was incredibly moving for me seeing that
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you know as well. But then at the same time,
like I like that we can have a song like
Me and the Girls where you know, it's an anthemic
of like partying and celebrating as well, and that we're
able to celebrate, you know, or like have a broad
spectrum of emotion during our set.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
I mean, do you feel like it's you know, especially
at this point.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
What's funny if you a podcast called in Service we
talked about you know, giving back and it started basically
about philanthropy, but of course, as a musician, giving back
is such a broad thing, and you know, allowing people
to celebrate it's such an important thing, especially in this
day and age. And of course you guys are now
based here, but you know you're here enough to see that, Like, damn,
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people need to celebrate in America, and people really need
to shut their brains off, and people really need to
you know, have.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Time to just you know, and like their new music
has the escape.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, totally. And I think it's like in America specifically,
like you know, Trump is creating and the whole his
whole movement is creating so much division and intentionally using
that as a way to kind of like cause disillusionment
between everybody and confusion and like stress and anger, and
it's kind of like rising intensely, and like people are
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very excited by, you know, hating other people, and the
media kind of like really just like perpetuates that, and
social media really just kind of like promotes that, just
like constant fighting because it serves the algorithm. And then
all of that mix with just like people not being
able to express themselves in the ways it feels right
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to them, people getting locked up citizens or non citizens,
and I think like a lot of people from the
outside are looking in going like this is intense, especially
for bands and the musicians who are more political getting
their visas band and stuff like that. So there's a
lot going on, you know, for musicians from other places
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coming here and thinking how are we going to navigate this?
A lot of musicians are kind of like, because you
don't want to stop coming here, I guess is the problem.
But there's so many local good bands as well, so
I feel like it's like they're holding down the fort anyway.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, it's crazy. You know Cat Stevens, he's like one
of my favorite artists of all time, and I mean
guys sold like fifty million records. He couldn't get his visa,
so he just had to cancel as North American tour
because is you know, converted to Islam and his name
is now yusif Cat Stevens. But I mean the idea
of the past a guy having that much success not
being able to get to the States is fucking mind blowing.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I mean, even Bruce Springsteen, you know, he kind of
spoke out about what he felt, and you know, Trump
was getting up his goat. So I'm Bruce fucking Springsteen man,
he like is a face of America.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
So that's Rother though.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
For Trump, that's why he doesn't like it is because
people like Springsteen more than him.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yeah, I think people like most anything more than Trump.
So there's that, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, I guess the one is that people do like Trump,
and that's what's scary because he's he's just the head
of the pimple, but he's not the past, and the
past is a society and the way that everyone's thinking
and feeling, and that kind of tension is more than
just him, because for whatever reason, there's thousands, hundreds of
thousands of individuals who believe in what he says and
think he's doing a good job, even despite up until
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this day.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
So that's what's I guess the issue.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
So for you guys talk about you know, it's funny
because I mean there is an idea of going back
to I mean, you know, I don't think people always
knew it, but I mean punk was always very much
like when you go to the Clash, when you go
to a lot of the Orange County bands, it was
very political. Yeah, So do you feel like, you know,
sort of you're carrying on. And it's funny because when
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I was mentioning the top performers in punk, to me,
it's always Patty Smith and Iggy Pop. They were like
the King and Queen a punk performing And you know,
Patty especially has always been so political. So do you
guys feel it's important to carry that on?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Not for the sake of carrying it on, just because
I think it's important. And I think like for me,
when I'm listening to somebody or watching something and they
talk about all of the stuff, or at least try
and articulate all of the shit that's going on, it
feels good because I'm like, oh, thank god, somebody else
feels that way, or somebody's at least putting in some
effort to try and like, you know, settle things down,
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I guess or whatever. So I think it's important. Yeah.
I would feel really shitty to just kind of like
have a be a performer, will stop, because it would
be denying my brain, which thinks about this stuff, you know. Yeah,
And I think like doing the yeah, doing the at
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least doing the service of talking about it is something
that might inspire other people to do the same or whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
But again, when you go back to a song like
now Iphew for example. That to me, it's like I've
talked about this with a lot of people. There are
people who are scared to take a political stand, but
it's like that's something that everybody can understand and it
puts a human face on it versus like Republican or
Democrat or pro party or this party or that party.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
So for you guys who are the songwriters who do that, well,
for both of them, the song is like really speak
to the stuff that you guys look about.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
And in the early days, there's an Australian band called
Midnight Oil. They had a really yeah they Beds of
Burning was a really successful song. As you know, it's
obviously like under the you know, it's it's it's like
a great pop song and very catchy and everything, but
it's still on a very real topic that that's still
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relevant today, you know, of indigenous rights in Australia and
then everything else at Midnight Order did too. That was like,
you know how for me I learned everything to do
with politics and music crossing over because they say it
not so metaphorically in other songs, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah, and same with like even just like you know,
minor Thread or Rage against the Machine and stuff like
that where you're kind of listening to it and you're like,
as a kid, I didn't know what the shit they
were talking about. But then I grew up, I was like, Oh,
they're talking about actually something that means something, And I really,
I guess valued that because I think it's like a
lot of stuff has to do with how you educate
and where you get your education from. So if you
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don't know something, you don't know it, and if you're
not around people who know it, how we're ever going
to know it. So listening to music, it's like that's
the way that you can cut even like Black Sabbath,
I didn't realize was like political, you know, like it's
called wallpigs obviously or whatever. But I didn't really my
brain didn't click that that was a statement, you know,
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or like a comment. True.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I guess, yeah, No, it's funny you say that because
I talked about this a couple of years ago before
the twenty twenty election, I hosted a podcast called People
Have the Power, where you know, I had different office
everyone from like public Anemy to Tom Morell Ji, all
these people pick their favorite protest signs, you know, and
it's so interesting. That was one of the things that
came up quite a bit was like, you're six years old, right,
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your song with Marvin Gaye, what's going on? Or see
if you wonder living in the city. They're like, fuck,
there's a great song, but you have no idea what
it's about or what the best is.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Yeah, yeah you got older.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Were those songs that really did change for you, whether
you started to appreciate the message of more or understand
like okay, well.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, I guess like even just those two, Like there's
so many I think more songs than not probably actually
are political. It's just yeah, like the perception of them,
Like because there's songs that are just so catchy that
you think, oh, this is such a bop. Hell yeah,
get smashed on the radio, and then it turns out, oh,
that actually had meaning, you know. I think there's a
lot like that. Probably timidly, I.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Think like it when that's particularly like that is a
treaty by r Tho Yindi. You know, that's an absolute banger.
Anyone can dance to that, but when you pay attention
to the lyrics, it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Are there songs of yours that you find like are
not necessarily miss understood the way like a Springsteen born
in the USA has been completely misunderstood.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
But like or it's funny.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I remember a few years ago, you know, because I've
known Tom Morello for years, and when you know, they
did the tour with Chuck d the Profits of Rage.
You know, we were laughing about the fact that it's
like probably fifty percent of the people in there had
no idea that that stuff was even political because they
don't listen to the lyrics and it's just like, all right,
wage against the machine. We can fucking rock out and
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go crazy. And then you know, like when people were like, dude,
why did you get political? And he's like, are you
fucking brain dead?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah? That's right. What's I don't know, what's the Brice
Springsteen born in the USA think, oh.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
My god, that's a song about anti Vietnam I mean
song about supporting Vietnam vets. Yeah, everybody took it to.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Be a song like that.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
They're proud to be born in the USA. There literally
is like embarrassed about the way that Vietnam vets are
treated here.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, I think, like, yeah, Dave, like because it's always
it's satirical. I think that's I goes over a lot
of people's heads, clearing mine to be honest. But like
even like Devo, like that was a big one for me,
like because I was like Diva, fuck yeah, like whip
it fucking yeah. And then like when I got older
and read an interview by them, I was like, wow,
this is like at that time, I JUSTOK new way
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less than I was, like, Wow, these are like the
smartest guys I've ever heard of, Like I never heard
of like the evolution being like a concept and that
that was their name that even came from the evolution,
and how sick and how like relatable that felt to me.
And I was like, fuck, this makes everything so much
better and so much cooler because it's like they're talking
about something that I mean, is very very real and
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they're named after it. But they're just like the finnest, colorful,
most like danceable band ever as well.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Well, it's kind of funny because I've interviewed them many times,
loved them, and it's like it's kind of hard to seek,
seriously a band that wears flower pots on their head,
but yes, they are fucking brilliant.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, and they're just like I guess it's like the
flower plots of the ham wrapped around the pill that
the dog has to swallow, you know, and it's like
once it gets past the ham, the medicine still hits.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
So what would be your like costume similar to flower
pots on the head.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
There's like fucking sick, hotshots and bond.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
So for you guys, I mean talk about you know,
are there songs of yours though that you found that
people like don't necessarily or again they change for you
and you kind of hear them in the different Because
I'm a big believer and I've talked about this with
like every songwriter in the world, from Peter Garrett to
you know, Willie Nelson to Mike Stoll or whoever. Songs
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are usually subconscious that way, That's what it's like. It's
kind of a formal channeling. You put your antenta up
and the songs I'm in and it's like Nick Cave,
who I worship, was saying, you know in his book,
it's like a year and a half later he'll be
on stage and he'll be like, oh.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Shit, that's what that means.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
So if you had that experience, or are the songs
for you guys that have been like they come out
of nowhere and then like a year later, you're like, Okay,
now I see what that's about, or you understand that
it was like because a lot of songs too, are
like kind of prophecies in a way that artists are
waiting about, like they're waiting about what they want to happen.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, I think so. I think a lot of those
songs have been like that where you know, you're kind
of right and then they change meaning over time or yeah,
they come to fruition, you know, but not for any
mystic reason, I don't think. I think it's just because
the subconscious is probably storing way more like data so
to speak, then we are conscious of and so the
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subconscious like stores it and then like leaks out, leaks
it out, And I think songwriters and writers and people
like that probably just have a bigger leak than people
who don't.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
So for you guys, I mean, is there one song
that you feel like you've had that experience with where
it's like I remember talking with Jimmy Cliff right, the
reggae artist, and he was saying that he wrote the
harder they come in ten minutes on the way to
the studio, or like Neil Diamond said, Sweet Caroline just
came from God. Is there one song that you look
at that was just like literally it just came out
of nowhere. Of course, we're famously Keith Richard's dream Satisfaction
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He dreamed it.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, Lucky Boston. I can't think anything right now. I
mean a lot of the songs are kind of written
on the spot in a lot of ways. Like me
and Decklan wrote No More Tears in like two seconds.
That was basically written just in the backyard of five
Taylor Street, which is where we were living at the time.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Like and I feel like we wrote, we wrote and
recorded our first ap in four hours. You know, those
kind of shut out.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
There was a song on there called someone Stole My
Push Black and then somebody did so fretty spooky you
jumped it. That's yeah, it's no satisfaction, but it's happened nonetheless.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Well it's funny though, because there is amazing how any
artists I talked to who say that like the songs
they've written come true. So if there's one song of
yours now that you would love to see come true?
What's the one song that you kind of see as
a wish.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Ooh, going through my mind?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Hang on.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Hmm, there's not really many wishful songs on that last album.
I feel like historically they've been more wishful, Like definitely,
what do you think? U?
Speaker 5 (30:01):
That is a tough one in terms of pushing stuff.
I mean Mandalay was a good one. You wouldn't you
like to be on a beach? A better life awaits
you at Mandalay.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
That's the throwback probably, Yeah, let's go to Harts. That
one that's about want to go to the country and facts.
I just want facts, the truth.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Ooh, So what do you guys wanted?
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Like?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
What's coming up for you guys?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Now?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
What's coming up? I mean the Gurnstyle tour starts Tuesday
or Saturday, I'm sorry Saturday, and.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Then what's the and then the ACDCCE you are you know?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Yeah, we've got the tun Style shows. Then we're going
over to the UK. We've got just two shows there.
We're doing Ali Pally, which is going to be fun.
That's like ten thousand cap headlines, So for us, that's exciting,
pretty big deal for us because that's the biggest headline
we've done I think dec one.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Yeah, so we're like pretty excited. H and then and
go back down to Australia for ACDC, finish the year off,
and then we're taking a couple of months off the
road because we're pretty heavy road dogs, Like we've been
just turned for the last three years, So gonna take
a little break from that and yeah, get back on it.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Do you write constantly or is it something that as
you say, like it sounds like a lot of the
stuff you write is just kind of in the studio
or in response to, like you know, being in the
creative space. So are you writing all the time or
is it just something like when you're taking time off
you can kind of not share your mind up but
they kind of you know, again, as I talk about
with artists, when you're channeling, the stuff is always coming in,
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but sometimes you can need no shut the radio off
a loudic for better or of putting it.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, we're not the kind of bandit rights on the road.
It'd be awesome if we were, but we're just not
those kind of peopleful right now. So we just yeah,
we used to just write when we're back home or
when we're taking some time off. What's that quote you said,
deck on that somebody else said about being quiet?
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Uh, the song dream of Keith Richard's. He said, silence
is a musician's canvas, and there's not a lot of
silence in this band.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Cool. I love that quote. Now for you guys, imagine
going back being kids, right, could you have like when
you're fourteen years old, you're not so? I interviewed Steve
van Zaan from Bruce Springsteen's band You Know, and he
both played Bruce Springsteen and started the Sopranos, and we
were talking about that.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
He's like, there's no way you could dream my life.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
So imagine being fourteen years old listening to Highway to
Hell Hold Lot of Rosie. Could you have ever imagined
that you'd be opening for fucking ACDC in your home country?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
No? I never. My best imagination would be that, I
don't know, I'll be cleaning the green rooms or something
with them moth. But I didn't think whatever played with
them was such a dream come true. It's not even
a dream come true because it was too big to dream,
you know. So that's why it's so awesome.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Very cool and with the Turnstiles, who were Is there
anything you're particularly looking forward to besides bonding with them
over chats with the singer And yes, since you're in California,
you can spoke weed. I feel like in most places
in the US you could do that now at this
point though.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Well yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean probably, but I'm
not going to find out where you can't.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
I think, like I'm excited to be able to play
to the size audiences that Turnstyle have on this run.
We did the food Fighters. We did like three shows
four shows which were food Fighters last year. But that's
kind of you know, helping people find seats. So this
is kind of the biggest audiences that will be able
to be exposed to in the US. That's exciting.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I'm excited to. I think it's been really cool for
like a lot of bands this year, like Turnstile doing
this tour and their shows and Fontaine's DC, and like
being able to play with bands. I think there's like
a really good moment right now for like guitar bands
or I don't know, I guess I'm just gonna call
it rock, but it'd be like punk, a little bit
of hardcore, a little bit of indie, Like there's a
lot of bands on tour at the moment that are
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so sick, like Lambrini Girls and Edging are on tour
at the moment, Upchuck are on tour at the moment,
and like the fact that Turnstile are playing rooms this
big even as the other support bands like Mannec and
Pussy and Speed from Australia. It just feels like there's
a good kind of thing happening in the music scene
at the moment, where for a long time it felt
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like there wasn't much of a I guess, like a
community or like that. There wasn't many like heavier bands
playing a lot and doing well, and it feels like
that's turned around. So I also like their music, so
I'm just came to see him play. Well.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
It's funny that you mentioned that, is you know, one
of the things are maybe interesting in the sery in
the first place. Now I'm drawing a fucking blank, of course,
but you guys, see, your name was coming up so
much with other bands I was talking to. There was
are there bands that you've heard from that you're surprised
to find your fans because it's like there are lots
of people who and of course, you know, because I
talked to everyone in the world. I literally do two
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three interviews a day. Now I'm drawing a blank, but
it was definitely like there were a lot of people
who were mentioning you guys as being big fans. So
there are people you've been supposed to see your fans.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah, uh yeah, someone like what the fuck? But I
can't remember who? Who's that guy that hated own named?
Can we talk?
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Yeah, no, absolutely, I say I heard that Bubb Geldoff
said that we had the worst name he's ever heard,
which I thought was rich coming from what boomtown rats?
Come on what?
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Because he got competition now for shitty band.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
I have a friend who's a really good band, a
very good friend, but their band's name is the Perfect Junkies.
That's as dumb a name as I've heard, because what's
perfect about being a junkie?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (36:17):
But uh, I mean what big fans? That surprised me.
I'm trying to think now. You hear it all the time.
Someone's like, you know, I heard this person's a massive fan.
You go, oh, no way, I forget them all.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Like I said, blank as well.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
So yeah, yeah, who's a fan?
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Was anything you guys when they had that?
Speaker 4 (36:41):
I did not ask you about?
Speaker 5 (36:46):
Nah?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, of course we'll all simultaneously as soon as we
hang out and think of like, oh, that's the worst
you mentioned them, or you'll think that that's the worst
who said they're a fan. But yeah, I mean, I
suppose you haven't had that one year. I mean obviously
opening for Easy D season scene for an Australian band,
but you have it at that bone. Yeah, we're like,
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you know, you look out and Bob Dylan or Pau
McCarty are in the audience watching the show together.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
No, but that's yeah, all right, there we go. Angus Young.
We heard that Angus Young is a fan of ours
and that is amazing that Angers Young has even heard
of us.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Very cool. Ah, well, you guys, thanks so much for
the time. I appreciate it much.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
Thank you do everything.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Thanks so much.
Hey, it's e Bulk.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You're welcome to and service up Grammy Week where this
week we are joined by Grammy Almenies in the best
Rock category, A Meal and the Snippers CORECT pleasure to
talk to them about opening for ac DC Life in
Australia so much more.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Really fun conversation from one of the most exciting young
rock bands in music today. I hope you enjoy this
one as much as I did. Well, how do you
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spend a couple of days off in LA Not that
there's ever a couple of days off because you're talking
to assholes like me, but you know, I.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
What have I've been doing. I've actually been shooting in
a music video, so I've just been doing all the
the word crap.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
As I said, there's no days are It's kind of like,
you know, I have so many friends who play festivals
and you know, many things. It's called a career of
the glamorous. And then you're backstage. You spend the whole
time in your fucking dressing.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Room and the and the dressing room is like a
shipping container with like one bottle of fucking vodka.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
At least you has a vodka.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
That Oh yeah, true, you gotta you gotta try and
swindle some writer.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I have no problem with that, you know, because at
this point I know enough people. But yeah, so wait,
what what festivals have the best? You know, Vodkas in
the dressing room are the best dressing room drinks.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
You know what Prima Viverra sound in bar Alona. They
got their own little cocktail bar, so you know that's
pretty good.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Declan, what are your appears? I like?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I like, yeah, I like Prima in Barcelona too. There's
a festival I can't remember it as the Netherlands, but
they were great for they were kind of enough to
let me drink a whole bottle of yega misa. So
that was good.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
That sounds painful.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I'm not gonna why.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Funnily enough, it took a lot of.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
The pain away. How old were Yeah, yeah, he's.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Putting on your socks or something.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
I'm rolling my pants up. I'm pulling my socks up
after drinking that. Yeah, Gamester, actually I'm pulling my socks up.
I was twenty.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
So how is the tour return style of going?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
We haven't started it, but it looks like they're having fun.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Saturday's the first show.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Today's the first show.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, do you know them well? Have you played with
them before? Are you friends?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I know, I know, I'm a little bit as in
like we passed each other at a festival and the
bass player we've all hung out with a little bit,
But I don't think, Yeah, we kind of know each
other in passing, but I think we'll get to know
each other a bit on this one.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Are the favorite bonding activities on tour with other bands
you've toured with?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Because it's so funny.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I mean, it's like I've talked to so many bands
but and it just covers the craziest ray of stuff
from like bands on Warped Tour playing dungeons dragons, to
barbecues to like, you know whatever. So for you guys,
where are they sometimes?
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Like sometimes sport is a good one, but sometimes it
can be as simple as just a member from each
band being a smoker, so they have cigarettes together sometimes.
I can say this because I'm in California. There's the
stoners as well, so sometimes they bond over marijuana. Usually
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the vocalists have a lot to talk about with each other.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, we love having a chat the vocalists because all
vocalists lose your voice, but you're also the most chatter
box in the bands, so we're always like, I got
my fucking voice, and then we like chatting about that,
so that's always nice. I'll like talking about you know,
eyeshadow and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah, yeah, that's so funny.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I was doing a story with the band five Finger
Death Punch and they were talking about like what their
conversations are after is the guitarist who's the founder of
the band. It's really into quantum mechanics, so it varies
very greatly, and so you're like eyeshadow, so it just
you know, there is like it just goes all over
the place.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, it does. I'll have a game we like to play.
But you know the band the Cosmic Psychos, No, I don't. Actually, well,
they're awesome. They taught us this game. I don't know
if I'll tell you all about it because it's a
bit of a trade secret. But I've all putting a
coin up your button trying to get it in a cup.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
That sounds like a game you do after drinking a
bottle of Giegermeistern.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So well, whenever, it's a fun game, family friendly too.
You're wearing pants, it's more about the clinching.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I mean, you wouldn't believe the ship that I well,
you probably would believe this stuff. You know, it takes
a lot to Uh. There was one band that was
telling me there was one singer who was telling about
drinking his wife's pee. That fucking grossed me out. And
then there was another one who was talking about crossing
their peace streams And I'm.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Like, dude, now is that a bonding?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I just say what they were doing on the road,
and I'm just like, no Ah, nope, amazing. What's the
craziest thing you guys have heard or done?
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Oh, I don't know, it's always well, I mean, I
don't know if we can file anything under crazy. We're
just used to it.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Now. Before you got on the road, you probably were
not used to putting coins in your button clenching, so,
you know, so.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
You'd be surprised.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
We didn't have any money to put up there back then.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So at this point, have you spent a lot of
time in the US twenty twenty five, I was watching
a KHP show, which was amazing.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, we've spent a bit of time here. We've done
like I think it was like thirty three shows or
something like that back in July or whenever. It was
June July, probably even before that. April, you can do
it that when what is it May? In April?
Speaker 5 (06:30):
It was, it was March April, and then we had
two weeks off and then we did May.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah. So yeah, we've been touring here, but we have
a bringing out. We've been all over the place.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Well, I know you spend a lot of the summer.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
In Europe though, yeah, I guess we did.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
But it's interesting. The reason I ask you is, it's
funny because I've talked about so many artists till coming
out of the music and it's like, you know, songs
change all the time, they're more and of course fans
adoubt their favorites songs, you know, and like you might
have an idea of like I love this song, but
a fan will say, no, this is my favorite, you know.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
And so for you.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Guys, are those songs that you are now looking to
revisit with because the other thing, of course, the Turnstile
fans are different. They're gonna know your stuff, but it's
not entirely your audience. So it's kind of like I've
talked to so many bands about this as well. There's
a real joy and challenge and like winning over a
new audience because it's like, you know, like I've talked
to bands who play festivals and it's like they love
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the challenge of not playing to their audience for sure.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So for you guys, are the songs that you're really
excited to see how these fans adapt to them, or
that the songs have changed for you say you're just
excited to revisit them.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I don't know, well, yeah, well we always just kind
of got through the catalog, like play whatever, usually change
the set list up a little bit most nights. I
think tnstyle audiences look real high energy, so they'll probably
like the high energy stuff that we do revisiting songs,
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will we. I don't really not say about that.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Uh yeah, So for you guys, would have been the
favorite of you live this year so far.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I like doing. I like doing tiny Bikini Lives. That's
real fun. I also like doing like I liked doing
Capital and doing in my Head and stuff like that.
The more kind of like, I guess they're a bit heavier,
you know.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
It's funny though, I was watching one of the YouTube videos,
Like I said, I was watching KSP, but then I
was also watching highlights of the Glassobery set and I
was talking about you know, fans were like talking about
the energy of the live show and you know how
much they enjoyed it. I'm curious for you, you guys
who have been the live shows that you really enjoyed her,
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that you really watched when you were younger, then inspired
you as a performer. And it's funny because one of
the comments said, like the greatest punk performer, and I'm like,
there are two people who immediately come to mind that are, like,
you know, just the benchmark for punk performance. So I'm
curious who you guys think.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
For me, it was like, yeah, the Cosmic Psychos ACDC,
Like I didn't see ACDC live, but I really liked
their music and their performances and like a lot of
Australian stuff really like we were listening to a lot
of the Saints and like Colored Balls, not that we
sound like that, and performance wise, I don't know, I
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guess like in the early days it was just local
stuff really, like we didn't really I didn't really pay
much attention to anything outside of the actual local scene
that we were going to see live because that was
kind of just what was around at the time, So
bands like you know, fuzz Sucker and Drunk Mums and
Dump to just Melbourne bands, you know. But I was like, fuck,
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these guys are all so cool. That was really the
origins of all of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
So if you guys, have you been surprised then to like,
you know, get out of there and play these shows
and like ding you do a bunch of shows opening
for a CDC and how crazy was that?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Then?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
No, the ACDC tour that started, that's in November. We're
luckily doing tans start at a CDC, so we're gonna
probably have to tailor a lot of our set to
a CDC fans because I kind of can't imagine there's
many crossover.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
So have you met DEMIEA Now.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Not in real life, in my dreams yet.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Wait, because I also love a CDC. It's one of
the greatest shows in the world. And I finally got
to interview them like two years ago.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So if you guys have a.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Jam on like one ACYI song with them, what would
it be?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Oh, I'd love to do an outro solo and whole
lot of Rosie.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
You know, yeah, to stop him.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, so it's true. Oh sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Oh yeah, no, it's true. And wist up as well.
You know, if it feels good, keep doing it, Amy,
What about you?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Oh let's go jale break. We'll go jail break today,
just fucking boom. You know.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Have you seen the videos of their live performances.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, definitely saying him like three times this year, I think, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
I've seen him twice this year. I saw them in
Pasadena and I saw them in Madrid in Spain.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Those are pretty opposite.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Yes, again, yeah the road you know, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Madrid was amazing. It's yeah, like that crowd was just
you know, doing like the whole la thing ole O
leyo layole and that was just like insane. That was
like kind of interesting. How them as an audience, they're
like sixty thousand, but they're like singular, you know what
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I mean, they're together. When you're in Pasadena, it's kind
of like, yeah, like I paid for this seat, buddy,
you better not smoke next much.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Did you showed me deck one of them playing in
South America somewhere.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Argentina, Argentina, Yeah, Buenos Aires?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah? What what it's craziest YouTube video of them playing
in Buenos Aires, and it's just like the whole crowd
is just like, you know, like my how don't know,
like thirty thousand and sixty thousand whatever it is, one
hundred million thousand, and they're all just like fully throbbing
up and down. It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
So are they still bringing out the sixty four inflatable woman?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
A whole lot of rosie?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
She's led now?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Okay, But it's funny because that's what's I mean. The
thing is like, that's what made them special, is like
they just were so over the top, but in a
really fun way, like you know, literally shooting off the
fucking cannons and for those abouts are rock real cannons.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Yeah, it's so cool.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So okay, because you know, you said you want to
do the outside a whole lot of rosie, you know.
But it's interesting you mentioned the crowd going crazy, butnos
airis and it's funny. I was again watching different videos.
I saw like one where you were doing Knafe and
they were just women singing along in the front. How
inspiring is that for you? When you have like girls
like it was younger girls who were just like screaming
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along the words.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, I think it's more emotional than inspiring, because all
across the world, I'm seeing women who ah, that song
resonates with them for reasons that I'm sure are not
good reasons. It's for reasons that they relate to that
song that it makes me. I guess it feels powerful
because we're looking at each other and feeling the same things,
(14:04):
but also makes me feel emotional because I feel that
it's issues that go all across the world that make
women relate to that song, which is really important.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
You know, definitely for you are the songs that you're
inspired by the audience response, because again, you know, people
gravitate to you. And you know, one thing I've talked
about with so many people picked their songs for so
(14:36):
many different reasons. It's weird.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Like I did a book a couple of years ago
called Antheons We.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Love, and I spoke to Graham Nash about Our House
and Daryl Hall about Sarah Smile, and those were songs
literally written for one person that millions of people gravitate to.
You are like as in everything A songwriter about a
song she wrote for a grandmother who spokes and drinks
and she's like, I thought no one would like that song,
but it turns out everybody has a fucking grandmother books
of drinks. So what have been the songs for you
(15:02):
guys that you've been like, it's about my six cousin,
you know, who has three fingers, and everybody's like, there's
a cool song ever written?
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Oh, I'm not sure. I think like Knife as well?
For me, is it's the same, Like it's emotional. We
did like an all ages show in Melbourne and uh yeah,
to just see like, you know, these young girls like
singing along to it and screaming it. You know, it
was like it was incredibly moving for me seeing that
(15:34):
you know as well. But then at the same time,
like I like that we can have a song like
Me and the Girls where you know, it's an anthemic
of like partying and celebrating as well, and that we're
able to celebrate, you know, or like have a broad
spectrum of emotion during our set.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
I mean, do you feel like it's you know, especially
at this point.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
What's funny if you a podcast called in Service we
talked about you know, giving back and it started basically
about philanthropy, but of course, as a musician, giving back
is such a broad thing, and you know, allowing people
to celebrate it's such an important thing, especially in this
day and age. And of course you guys are now
based here, but you know you're here enough to see that, Like, damn,
(16:20):
people need to celebrate in America, and people really need
to shut their brains off, and people really need to
you know, have.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Time to just you know, and like their new music
has the escape.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, totally. And I think it's like in America specifically,
like you know, Trump is creating and the whole his
whole movement is creating so much division and intentionally using
that as a way to kind of like cause disillusionment
between everybody and confusion and like stress and anger, and
it's kind of like rising intensely, and like people are
(16:57):
very excited by, you know, hating other people, and the
media kind of like really just like perpetuates that, and
social media really just kind of like promotes that, just
like constant fighting because it serves the algorithm. And then
all of that mix with just like people not being
able to express themselves in the ways it feels right
(17:19):
to them, people getting locked up citizens or non citizens,
and I think like a lot of people from the
outside are looking in going like this is intense, especially
for bands and the musicians who are more political getting
their visas band and stuff like that. So there's a
lot going on, you know, for musicians from other places
(17:43):
coming here and thinking how are we going to navigate this?
A lot of musicians are kind of like, because you
don't want to stop coming here, I guess is the problem.
But there's so many local good bands as well, so
I feel like it's like they're holding down the fort anyway.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, it's crazy. You know Cat Stevens, he's like one
of my favorite artists of all time, and I mean
guys sold like fifty million records. He couldn't get his visa,
so he just had to cancel as North American tour
because is you know, converted to Islam and his name
is now yusif Cat Stevens. But I mean the idea
of the past a guy having that much success not
being able to get to the States is fucking mind blowing.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I mean, even Bruce Springsteen, you know, he kind of
spoke out about what he felt, and you know, Trump
was getting up his goat. So I'm Bruce fucking Springsteen man,
he like is a face of America.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
So that's Rother though.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
For Trump, that's why he doesn't like it is because
people like Springsteen more than him.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yeah, I think people like most anything more than Trump.
So there's that, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, I guess the one is that people do like Trump,
and that's what's scary because he's he's just the head
of the pimple, but he's not the past, and the
past is a society and the way that everyone's thinking
and feeling, and that kind of tension is more than
just him, because for whatever reason, there's thousands, hundreds of
thousands of individuals who believe in what he says and
think he's doing a good job, even despite up until
(19:12):
this day.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
So that's what's I guess the issue.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
So for you guys talk about you know, it's funny
because I mean there is an idea of going back
to I mean, you know, I don't think people always
knew it, but I mean punk was always very much
like when you go to the Clash, when you go
to a lot of the Orange County bands, it was
very political. Yeah, So do you feel like, you know,
sort of you're carrying on. And it's funny because when
(19:39):
I was mentioning the top performers in punk, to me,
it's always Patty Smith and Iggy Pop. They were like
the King and Queen a punk performing And you know,
Patty especially has always been so political. So do you
guys feel it's important to carry that on?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Not for the sake of carrying it on, just because
I think it's important. And I think like for me,
when I'm listening to somebody or watching something and they
talk about all of the stuff, or at least try
and articulate all of the shit that's going on, it
feels good because I'm like, oh, thank god, somebody else
feels that way, or somebody's at least putting in some
effort to try and like, you know, settle things down,
(20:17):
I guess or whatever. So I think it's important. Yeah.
I would feel really shitty to just kind of like
have a be a performer, will stop, because it would
be denying my brain, which thinks about this stuff, you know. Yeah,
And I think like doing the yeah, doing the at
(20:37):
least doing the service of talking about it is something
that might inspire other people to do the same or whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
But again, when you go back to a song like
now Iphew for example. That to me, it's like I've
talked about this with a lot of people. There are
people who are scared to take a political stand, but
it's like that's something that everybody can understand and it
puts a human face on it versus like Republican or
Democrat or pro party or this party or that party.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
So for you guys who are the songwriters who do that, well,
for both of them, the song is like really speak
to the stuff that you guys look about.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
And in the early days, there's an Australian band called
Midnight Oil. They had a really yeah they Beds of
Burning was a really successful song. As you know, it's
obviously like under the you know, it's it's it's like
a great pop song and very catchy and everything, but
it's still on a very real topic that that's still
(21:41):
relevant today, you know, of indigenous rights in Australia and
then everything else at Midnight Order did too. That was like,
you know how for me I learned everything to do
with politics and music crossing over because they say it
not so metaphorically in other songs, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah, and same with like even just like you know,
minor Thread or Rage against the Machine and stuff like
that where you're kind of listening to it and you're like,
as a kid, I didn't know what the shit they
were talking about. But then I grew up, I was like, Oh,
they're talking about actually something that means something, And I really,
I guess valued that because I think it's like a
lot of stuff has to do with how you educate
and where you get your education from. So if you
(22:20):
don't know something, you don't know it, and if you're
not around people who know it, how we're ever going
to know it. So listening to music, it's like that's
the way that you can cut even like Black Sabbath,
I didn't realize was like political, you know, like it's
called wallpigs obviously or whatever. But I didn't really my
brain didn't click that that was a statement, you know,
(22:40):
or like a comment. True.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I guess, yeah, No, it's funny you say that because
I talked about this a couple of years ago before
the twenty twenty election, I hosted a podcast called People
Have the Power, where you know, I had different office
everyone from like public Anemy to Tom Morell Ji, all
these people pick their favorite protest signs, you know, and
it's so interesting. That was one of the things that
came up quite a bit was like, you're six years old, right,
(23:03):
your song with Marvin Gaye, what's going on? Or see
if you wonder living in the city. They're like, fuck,
there's a great song, but you have no idea what
it's about or what the best is.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Yeah, yeah you got older.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Were those songs that really did change for you, whether
you started to appreciate the message of more or understand
like okay, well.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, I guess like even just those two, Like there's
so many I think more songs than not probably actually
are political. It's just yeah, like the perception of them,
Like because there's songs that are just so catchy that
you think, oh, this is such a bop. Hell yeah,
get smashed on the radio, and then it turns out, oh,
that actually had meaning, you know. I think there's a
lot like that. Probably timidly, I.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Think like it when that's particularly like that is a
treaty by r Tho Yindi. You know, that's an absolute banger.
Anyone can dance to that, but when you pay attention
to the lyrics, it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Are there songs of yours that you find like are
not necessarily miss understood the way like a Springsteen born
in the USA has been completely misunderstood.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
But like or it's funny.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I remember a few years ago, you know, because I've
known Tom Morello for years, and when you know, they
did the tour with Chuck d the Profits of Rage.
You know, we were laughing about the fact that it's
like probably fifty percent of the people in there had
no idea that that stuff was even political because they
don't listen to the lyrics and it's just like, all right,
wage against the machine. We can fucking rock out and
(24:27):
go crazy. And then you know, like when people were like, dude,
why did you get political? And he's like, are you
fucking brain dead?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah? That's right. What's I don't know, what's the Brice
Springsteen born in the USA think, oh.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
My god, that's a song about anti Vietnam I mean
song about supporting Vietnam vets. Yeah, everybody took it to.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Be a song like that.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
They're proud to be born in the USA. There literally
is like embarrassed about the way that Vietnam vets are
treated here.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, I think, like, yeah, Dave, like because it's always
it's satirical. I think that's I goes over a lot
of people's heads, clearing mine to be honest. But like
even like Devo, like that was a big one for me,
like because I was like Diva, fuck yeah, like whip
it fucking yeah. And then like when I got older
and read an interview by them, I was like, wow,
this is like at that time, I JUSTOK new way
(25:15):
less than I was, like, Wow, these are like the
smartest guys I've ever heard of, Like I never heard
of like the evolution being like a concept and that
that was their name that even came from the evolution,
and how sick and how like relatable that felt to me.
And I was like, fuck, this makes everything so much
better and so much cooler because it's like they're talking
about something that I mean, is very very real and
(25:37):
they're named after it. But they're just like the finnest, colorful,
most like danceable band ever as well.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Well, it's kind of funny because I've interviewed them many times,
loved them, and it's like it's kind of hard to seek,
seriously a band that wears flower pots on their head,
but yes, they are fucking brilliant.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, and they're just like I guess it's like the
flower plots of the ham wrapped around the pill that
the dog has to swallow, you know, and it's like
once it gets past the ham, the medicine still hits.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
So what would be your like costume similar to flower
pots on the head.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
There's like fucking sick, hotshots and bond.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
So for you guys, I mean talk about you know,
are there songs of yours though that you found that
people like don't necessarily or again they change for you
and you kind of hear them in the different Because
I'm a big believer and I've talked about this with
like every songwriter in the world, from Peter Garrett to
you know, Willie Nelson to Mike Stoll or whoever. Songs
(26:35):
are usually subconscious that way, That's what it's like. It's
kind of a formal channeling. You put your antenta up
and the songs I'm in and it's like Nick Cave,
who I worship, was saying, you know in his book,
it's like a year and a half later he'll be
on stage and he'll be like, oh.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Shit, that's what that means.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
So if you had that experience, or are the songs
for you guys that have been like they come out
of nowhere and then like a year later, you're like, Okay,
now I see what that's about, or you understand that
it was like because a lot of songs too, are
like kind of prophecies in a way that artists are
waiting about, like they're waiting about what they want to happen.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, I think so. I think a lot of those
songs have been like that where you know, you're kind
of right and then they change meaning over time or yeah,
they come to fruition, you know, but not for any
mystic reason, I don't think. I think it's just because
the subconscious is probably storing way more like data so
to speak, then we are conscious of and so the
(27:36):
subconscious like stores it and then like leaks out, leaks
it out, And I think songwriters and writers and people
like that probably just have a bigger leak than people
who don't.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
So for you guys, I mean, is there one song
that you feel like you've had that experience with where
it's like I remember talking with Jimmy Cliff right, the
reggae artist, and he was saying that he wrote the
harder they come in ten minutes on the way to
the studio, or like Neil Diamond said, Sweet Caroline just
came from God. Is there one song that you look
at that was just like literally it just came out
of nowhere. Of course, we're famously Keith Richard's dream Satisfaction
(28:25):
He dreamed it.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, Lucky Boston. I can't think anything right now. I
mean a lot of the songs are kind of written
on the spot in a lot of ways. Like me
and Decklan wrote No More Tears in like two seconds.
That was basically written just in the backyard of five
Taylor Street, which is where we were living at the time.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Like and I feel like we wrote, we wrote and
recorded our first ap in four hours. You know, those
kind of shut out.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
There was a song on there called someone Stole My
Push Black and then somebody did so fretty spooky you
jumped it. That's yeah, it's no satisfaction, but it's happened nonetheless.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Well it's funny though, because there is amazing how any
artists I talked to who say that like the songs
they've written come true. So if there's one song of
yours now that you would love to see come true?
What's the one song that you kind of see as
a wish.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Ooh, going through my mind?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Hang on.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Hmm, there's not really many wishful songs on that last album.
I feel like historically they've been more wishful, Like definitely,
what do you think? U?
Speaker 5 (30:01):
That is a tough one in terms of pushing stuff.
I mean Mandalay was a good one. You wouldn't you
like to be on a beach? A better life awaits
you at Mandalay.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
That's the throwback probably, Yeah, let's go to Harts. That
one that's about want to go to the country and facts.
I just want facts, the truth.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Ooh, So what do you guys wanted?
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Like?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
What's coming up for you guys?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Now?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
What's coming up? I mean the Gurnstyle tour starts Tuesday
or Saturday, I'm sorry Saturday, and.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Then what's the and then the ACDCCE you are you know?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Yeah, we've got the tun Style shows. Then we're going
over to the UK. We've got just two shows there.
We're doing Ali Pally, which is going to be fun.
That's like ten thousand cap headlines, So for us, that's exciting,
pretty big deal for us because that's the biggest headline
we've done I think dec one.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Yeah, so we're like pretty excited. H and then and
go back down to Australia for ACDC, finish the year off,
and then we're taking a couple of months off the
road because we're pretty heavy road dogs, Like we've been
just turned for the last three years, So gonna take
a little break from that and yeah, get back on it.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Do you write constantly or is it something that as
you say, like it sounds like a lot of the
stuff you write is just kind of in the studio
or in response to, like you know, being in the
creative space. So are you writing all the time or
is it just something like when you're taking time off
you can kind of not share your mind up but
they kind of you know, again, as I talk about
with artists, when you're channeling, the stuff is always coming in,
(31:37):
but sometimes you can need no shut the radio off
a loudic for better or of putting it.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, we're not the kind of bandit rights on the road.
It'd be awesome if we were, but we're just not
those kind of peopleful right now. So we just yeah,
we used to just write when we're back home or
when we're taking some time off. What's that quote you said,
deck on that somebody else said about being quiet?
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Uh, the song dream of Keith Richard's. He said, silence
is a musician's canvas, and there's not a lot of
silence in this band.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Cool. I love that quote. Now for you guys, imagine
going back being kids, right, could you have like when
you're fourteen years old, you're not so? I interviewed Steve
van Zaan from Bruce Springsteen's band You Know, and he
both played Bruce Springsteen and started the Sopranos, and we
were talking about that.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
He's like, there's no way you could dream my life.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
So imagine being fourteen years old listening to Highway to
Hell Hold Lot of Rosie. Could you have ever imagined
that you'd be opening for fucking ACDC in your home country?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
No? I never. My best imagination would be that, I
don't know, I'll be cleaning the green rooms or something
with them moth. But I didn't think whatever played with
them was such a dream come true. It's not even
a dream come true because it was too big to dream,
you know. So that's why it's so awesome.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Very cool and with the Turnstiles, who were Is there
anything you're particularly looking forward to besides bonding with them
over chats with the singer And yes, since you're in California,
you can spoke weed. I feel like in most places
in the US you could do that now at this
point though.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Well yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean probably, but I'm
not going to find out where you can't.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
I think, like I'm excited to be able to play
to the size audiences that Turnstyle have on this run.
We did the food Fighters. We did like three shows
four shows which were food Fighters last year. But that's
kind of you know, helping people find seats. So this
is kind of the biggest audiences that will be able
to be exposed to in the US. That's exciting.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I'm excited to. I think it's been really cool for
like a lot of bands this year, like Turnstile doing
this tour and their shows and Fontaine's DC, and like
being able to play with bands. I think there's like
a really good moment right now for like guitar bands
or I don't know, I guess I'm just gonna call
it rock, but it'd be like punk, a little bit
of hardcore, a little bit of indie, Like there's a
lot of bands on tour at the moment that are
(34:20):
so sick, like Lambrini Girls and Edging are on tour
at the moment, Upchuck are on tour at the moment,
and like the fact that Turnstile are playing rooms this
big even as the other support bands like Mannec and
Pussy and Speed from Australia. It just feels like there's
a good kind of thing happening in the music scene
at the moment, where for a long time it felt
(34:40):
like there wasn't much of a I guess, like a
community or like that. There wasn't many like heavier bands
playing a lot and doing well, and it feels like
that's turned around. So I also like their music, so
I'm just came to see him play. Well.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
It's funny that you mentioned that, is you know, one
of the things are maybe interesting in the sery in
the first place. Now I'm drawing a fucking blank, of course,
but you guys, see, your name was coming up so
much with other bands I was talking to. There was
are there bands that you've heard from that you're surprised
to find your fans because it's like there are lots
of people who and of course, you know, because I
talked to everyone in the world. I literally do two
(35:16):
three interviews a day. Now I'm drawing a blank, but
it was definitely like there were a lot of people
who were mentioning you guys as being big fans. So
there are people you've been supposed to see your fans.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah, uh yeah, someone like what the fuck? But I
can't remember who? Who's that guy that hated own named?
Can we talk?
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Yeah, no, absolutely, I say I heard that Bubb Geldoff
said that we had the worst name he's ever heard,
which I thought was rich coming from what boomtown rats?
Come on what?
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Because he got competition now for shitty band.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
I have a friend who's a really good band, a
very good friend, but their band's name is the Perfect Junkies.
That's as dumb a name as I've heard, because what's
perfect about being a junkie?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (36:17):
But uh, I mean what big fans? That surprised me.
I'm trying to think now. You hear it all the time.
Someone's like, you know, I heard this person's a massive fan.
You go, oh, no way, I forget them all.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Like I said, blank as well.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
So yeah, yeah, who's a fan?
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Was anything you guys when they had that?
Speaker 4 (36:41):
I did not ask you about?
Speaker 5 (36:46):
Nah?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, of course we'll all simultaneously as soon as we
hang out and think of like, oh, that's the worst
you mentioned them, or you'll think that that's the worst
who said they're a fan. But yeah, I mean, I
suppose you haven't had that one year. I mean obviously
opening for Easy D season scene for an Australian band,
but you have it at that bone. Yeah, we're like,
(37:08):
you know, you look out and Bob Dylan or Pau
McCarty are in the audience watching the show together.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
No, but that's yeah, all right, there we go. Angus Young.
We heard that Angus Young is a fan of ours
and that is amazing that Angers Young has even heard
of us.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Very cool. Ah, well, you guys, thanks so much for
the time. I appreciate it much.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
Thank you do everything.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Thanks so much.
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