May 13, 2026 • 48 mins
On this week's In Service Of a phenomenal and intimate conversation between longtime friends Haley Reinhart and host Steve Baltin. As Reinhart says the two have known each other for years, so it is literally like listening on a catch-up between two old friends as Reinhart takes us in being maid of honor at her sister's wedding, the songs she sang and cried to there and co-writing her beautiful new single, 'Promise,' with her fiancé, Drew Dolan.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hey, it's Steve Balton and this week on in servisav
I am joined by a longtime friend, the wonderful Haley
Ryan Hart.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You can hear into the conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
It's just two friends catching up talking about her brilliant
new song promise, singing at her sister's wedding, hanging at
Muhammad Ali's birthday party, with the likes of Chris Cornell
and Slash and so much more. I've known Haley for
many years. She's a dear friend, an amazing singer, a
wonderful person, and I had a lot of fun with
(00:37):
her on this episode. And of course we talked a
lot as well about dogs, pets, stuff that really matters
in life. So I hope you enjoyed this interview as
much as I did. It was great to catch up
with Haley. So obvious questions, well, first off, good see you,
(01:08):
thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
What did you sing? It was sister's wedding.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I got to do moon River with my dad for
her Hubbies first dance with his mom, and I also
did Canel Falling in Love Naturally with my fiance and piano,
so it was very family oriented. I was also going
to do a Beatles song, but I'm kind of glad
(01:33):
we're saving it since if I fell, I want to
use this like me and my dad song, since we've
always played it together. So I'm excited for that in
the future.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You didn't do the problems though, No.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
We almost did, but she asked us, and I was like, oh,
I might save it for mine, and you know, at
the end of the day, like it would have been sweet,
but truly, I just I wanted to be everything I
could for her.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
So I was made of honor and I just had
a lot of tasks and it was beautiful. I was
so honored to have that role for her. So she
kind of wanted it.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But I was like, let's just like have this.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Night and like we'll make it about you know, me
and my promise down the line at my wedding.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You know, it's interesting. I've thought about this a lot
of late and you know, say, your how old?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Now we don't have to put this part in the interview.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Well we work with any but I know you're not
twenty two anymore, even though you still look.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
At it.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Thirty five.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, but what's not bring this up right?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
No, I think that's good because you know, I think
when you're in your twenties, I'm sure you have this
experience deal. You have all these amazing moments that you
think are just going to happen again and again and
again because you have a perspective, you have no realization.
But I always go back to you, Right, there's one
night in particular I think about now that if happened
(03:07):
to me today, I would like literally fucking die. But
at them at the time, I was like twenty six,
twenty seven, how old girl? And so I was like, ah,
that's not happened all the time. But I was covering
for roly Stone a BMI Awards, where I meant the
same night, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, and Bo Diddley all
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in the same nights, right, and now you would just
like die. And at the time, now you're like young
and stupid. So where I'm going with this? Do you
feel like you appreciate something like your sister's wedding so
much more and being there and singing at it and
doing all this, because again, when you're twenty two, you
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just don't really have the perspective to understand like these
kind of special nights don't happen all the time.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Yeah, I totally hear what you're saying, and I felt
I'm just like a super sensitive, empathic, very nostalgic kind
of girl. So even like in my past, let's say
in my twenties, or for one example, performing with Slash
and Miles Kennedy at Muhammad Ali's seventieth birthday at the MGM,
(04:23):
like there was that was the most one of the
most star studed nights where I just you know, turned
over my shoulder and there's Chris Cornell and there's you know,
Lenny Kravitz and Snoops standing next to me put in
their arms over me, like it was one of those nights.
But I've not really ever been the type to let
it kind of.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Just roll past me.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I've I'm like, I get emotional, man, So I was
in those kind of moments. I've kind of always been
the type of person where I see the future in
the moment, and I think that's kind of called like
pre nostalgia. I'm not quite positive, but I feel already
emotional knowing how monumental this moment is to me and
(05:09):
that I need to be hyper vigilant, aware, present in
the moment because it won't be like this again. So
I've always kind of just been weird like that and
missed things before they were gone.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
And that's just my weirdness.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I guess that's fascinating to me though, because don't you
in a weird way. Then I feel like you're kind
of missing out on something by you know, like thinking
about it as.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
It's gone before it already is gone.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, man, And I think that's like kind of been
a constant meditation for me to sit with because you
can't have we have nothing but the present.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
So I've kind of tried to dial.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Back those feelings of at least you know, potential future
sorrow or whatever you want to call it, and just
really try to focus on I'm here and now, and
especially when I'm on stage, you know, I like to
be extra sure now that I'm looking in the eyes
of all the musicians and I'm soaking it up so
(06:16):
much so where I know I'll be able to kind
of have these tangible feelings and sensations when I think
back to these memories, you know, down the line.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So for your sister's wedding them, were you able to
kind of do that a little bit?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Are you getting better at it?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, I mean I cried my ass off, but either way,
I was certainly present, and yeah, I think I've found
the balance at this stage of my life, so I
was able to fully enjoy it, and I think I'm
going to remember it so vividly. It was such a
classic wedding anyway, So a day that we have waited
(06:53):
for for so long, and there was so much Beetles
in the lineup for us because there were such Beetle freaks.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
And yeah, it's just so many precious moments, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So all right, obvious, what were the Beatles songs you mentioned?
If I fell?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah, so if I fell, it was definite, certainly me
and my dad's and I was waiting and I already
knew my sister and my dad would dance to hear
Comes the Sun.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
So I was a mess for that.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Sitting on the floor like a little girl watching them
and trying to film at the same time and cry,
and you know, beyond Beatles, there was also some really
cool moments. My mom and dad did Danny song together
and they're still performing, you know, fifty years later. So
it was all of these these moments and things that Angie,
(07:40):
my sister and I have have always, you know, really
just admired watching our parents do. So she handpicked that
song for them to do and we're just all water works.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But again, just precious, precious moments. I don't I could
never forget.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Very cool and for you then, I mean, is it
something that, like, you know, now that you're getting ready
to go back out on the road and you just
have these experiences, are you able to kind of appreciate
them more because you're able to kind of live in
those moments.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yeah, I feel grateful that I've able, I've been able
to navigate my schedule in such a balance way as.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Of late, and you know, sometimes I've had to miss
out of course on very special events.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
But truly, I think I do prioritize my family and
my friends as much as I possibly can. So I've
made it for so many big, big things, big life happenings,
and I wouldn't regret that for the world. So it
does feel good knowing I'll be back out on the road,
I'll be doing my own stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
And also.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Ten dates with the Red Clay Strays coming up, So
I think I have a lot of personal you know,
just the beautiful memories to hold on to and carry
me through this next you know, hall of Dates.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
All right, so obvious question. How much is Promised indicative
of the rest of the album. I mean it's a
very like you know, it's just like this very beautiful
but like very like not somber, but like just very
quiet song, you know, very ballad, is that like? You know,
it's very authentic and very I mean, it's just a
(09:31):
straight love song.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, yeah, I think it'll stick out on the record.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
What's that? Oh, I was just gonna say it, you know,
the rest of the record or.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah, I think it's gonna stick out from the rest
of the record, but i'd like to I'm already in
the works of having some sister songs I like to
call it, you know, so that it has a pairing
at least with another tune that is in the same vein.
I always often like to try to do that if
it feels natural and if it feels right so for me,
(10:14):
I think they'll definitely be something similar, but Promise will
still probably stick out, as you know, truly the follow
up to Kennel Falling in Love, but in original take
this time, seeing as though that song did so well
for me and I'm you know, really excited to just
hopefully have it be another hit that's also a part
(10:37):
of people's love stories and their weddings and about pets.
You know, everybody loves their their animals, So I just
wanted this song to really like speak to the full
capacity of love and every.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Angle of it, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
No, I love that because I remember it being Dave
Bailey from Glass Animals and he was telling me our
writing songs for his dogs, you know, And I think that,
you know, that is a very authentic thing. I mean,
you know, so I love that you're targets in the
video as well.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yes, yes, she's she's the starlet.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
And we were like up on that mountain somewhere in
Woodland Hills and freezing our tails off together.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And we're just like shivering trying to look like normal.
But she's a little model girl.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
I love Pepper, and you know, we love our Red
Healer that we used to have she passed now, and
our our Blue Healer. The cattle dogs are just the best.
So I'm so happy that she gets to be a
part of.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
The single and I get to showcase, you know, my
love and devotion for.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Her well, and I love that you know, you say
she's starlet, but then I also like your little Maryland
and Madge as well.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Love Bang, You're so You're so good Steeve, I uh yeah,
I just wanted to have another element of the studio
and I'm so happy I got to do it there
because I was really recording. So what you're seeing in
the video is actually the takes that I'm doing for
the most part at lear By Studios, and that's Manny
(12:10):
marle Kene's amazing studio attached to his awesome restaurant Verse
and where they do so many amazing live performances all
the time. So that was it felt very special, and
I wanted to add that classic feel a la Marilyn
Monroe and just give a little bit of a nod
with that dress.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I guess too, I was going to say that normally
recorded Maryland dress.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I mean, I am that kind of person that likes
to just dress up no matter what.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I mean. You've known me for years now, and it's
like I'm either going to be wearing my oversized rolling
Stone T.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Shirt or I'm like going all out into some you know,
cool vintage kind of fits.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
So I think there's really no one between. For me,
it's one or the other.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
All right, So did you hear the new Stone song yet?
By the way, did it just come out yesterday? Yeah,
I haven't listened, so no judgment, but I wearing the
Stone shirt.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, I know, I haven't yet, but I've been.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
It's funny because I'll always support them no matter what.
So there's been some things popping up on my Instagram,
but I haven't even listened. I'm just liking so I
didn't even know that wasn't actually.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
On my radar. I'm gonna listen as soon as we're
off the phone. That's fun.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Again, I like, I haven't had a chance to listen yet,
but I mean I'm definitely, you know, curious.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah, which way they're going?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I had to wait now for you. I mean, let's
have some fun with this for a second. I mean,
what is like, how many times have you seen the Stones?
First of all, I think three?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah, and the last time was at the I do
not want to call it old Chella because this.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Was my Woodstock Okay, this was the Yes, the Desert
Trip Festival.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Once in a lifetime concert that will never be forgotten.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
In my heart. Was there? Who's your favorite that weekend.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Well, shoot, man, I mean I I really I bawled
my eyes out watching the Stones like he was. I
was pretty I was so close to the stage and
he's mixed out on that catwalk and it just I
was just stunned. I was just dead in my stop,
dead in my track's mouth open and like crying. I've
(15:01):
seen Paul so many times as well, I'll always be amazed.
He's my favorite. I think he's probably like my biggest
vocal inspiration ever, so.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
He's always in my They're both my tops.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
But then you have every other act that was so
I mean, Neil Young really stole the show in so
many ways, so many people have talked about, which you know,
I never had seen him till then, so that was
really cool.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
But I love I Love the Who. Bob Dylan got
his Nobel Peace Prize of the day before and it was
all mysterious, of course, which I loved. And then and
then Roger.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Waters put in, like I don't know, for something crazy
like four or forty milli extra bucks into his set,
So you're like watching everybody kind of shift in the
crowd when they hear the trains and the clocks.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
And the money going around surround sounds.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
So it was I can't even hardly like pinpoint the
best moments, the best moment or act because as a collective,
this was just the greatest thing that I could have
ever imagined in my generation to still be able to
go out and see you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
See that's interesting though, because and I was there, and
I can totally say for me it was having seen
all of them multiple times, it was Neil Young absolutely dominated.
He was amazing.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, and you know, we.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Won't even talk about Roger Waters because you know, the
flots be if you have nothing nice to say. You know,
I used to be saying white fam but what a
pump is ass, you know. But it's interesting that you
say that because I've also been to eighteen Pachellas. I've
been to you know, so many like you know, other
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festivals as you have performed at. So it's interesting that
you say at thirty five that it was your you know, Woodstock.
I mean, you know, I'm curious there at the vessel
as you've been to that you feel I've been close
or at the moments you've seen that really stood out
to you.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I mean going to cross Roads as a kid in
Chicago amazing.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
You know, I got to see so many blues legends,
so many rock and roll legends, Like I went to
Crossroad here in LA as well for the first.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Time a couple of years back. Now, fantastic.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, I'm the only time they've ever done it here.
Is that? What that's the only time they've ever done here?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Wow, that was it.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, I hadn't realized that, but that was fantastic. Even
though I love it being outdoors, you know, for.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
The most part here.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
It's back in Austin this year.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Okay, cool?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
So yeah, Chicago, I mean it was so fitting and
growing up like I would I would go as a kid,
so it was so cool to be exposed.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
To so many favorites.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
And back then and Jazz Fest, you know, I would
perform with the New Orleans Jazz Orchestra there, and I've
gotten to see some more favorites, you know, Robert Plant, Hosier,
and they do a good job of.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Even though it's not all jazz obviously, of mixing some
of these legends that everybody would really care to see
with a lot of the more you know, traditional and
fusion jazz acts.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
As well, so they did a good job of that too. Yeah,
I'm trying to think of anymore that stick out. There
was I was just trying to think, Uh, that.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Was the latest thing. I want to I really hope
I can.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I'm so bummed I missed the Stones and and Paul
in their last you know runs. But I do really
pray I can have the opportunity to see them again
because it just never gets old to me.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So for you, it's always been an old soul kind
of thing.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah, I just it just resonates with my soul so much.
I I've never been a.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I've only been to.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Me.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I'm just curious, you know.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah, I mean it's for me, like even though I'm
I'm the younger generation, I've lived vicuriously through my parents,
you know, and their music my whole life. And I
obviously really do attribute that to growing up watching their
bands perform all this music and just being hooked. You know,
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my mom's doing Gray Slick and all these all these
amazing you know, Janie, since I was just a baby
going to these clubs. So I was just completely hooked
from day one on this meeting, and you know, there's
there's so much feel.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I don't have to tell you, Steve.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
It's like the feel and the emotion that just blasts
through and crackles through those speakers is just you cannot
replicate that. And in a world of crazy AI, it's
it's going to be, I would hope and imagine it's
going to be put up on an even higher pedestal
for artists and young people alike to just want to
(20:30):
dive into even further because and just be inspired by
I mean, I'm inspired by it. I just I've taken
as many, you know, hint, as many tips as I
can through those artists to just remain as authentic as
possible and as raw as possible, and to just put
the paintbrush down after so long and not perfect every
(20:52):
little thing because I'm a virgo. I'd love to perfect
every little thing, but it's just not the way that
rock and roll or all music or jazz, any of
it should be at its core. It should just be
true and real with feeling.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Well that Ti I didn't nicely with promise, I mean
for you talk about you know the writing of that song,
and I mean you and Drew.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Co wrote that one right, Yes, yeah, you know, because
it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I mean, so many artists I've talked to you have
talked about, you know, especially the classic era where you
didn't have thirteen people writing.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
One fucking song.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
The idea is like a song will just come to you.
It's almost like channeling. Well it's not almost like channeling.
It is like channeling.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
People talk about the antenna being up and it just
comes in. So was that song very direct to you?
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Yes, Drew and I honestly did feel like we were
channeling something that was just completely coming through us because
we were also writing from Afar. We've tried to write
together in the same room and we have so many
fragments of material. But then it took for us to
have more of a deadline.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
In a way, and him being.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Like five hours north and me being on the road,
and then here back in La to write it over
the phone together and send each other bits of information.
So it's like this complete morphed duet of a writing experience.
But we did it remotely, and I.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Think it's so cool.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
I think that we found we unlock something within our
own partnership of writing now where I think it's just
taught us even a cooler way or a cool way
to communicate.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Even though we're not in the same room.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
So if we could do that, I'm like, Okay, I
think we got something here because it just came flowing
out from both sides. So yeah, I hope we can
just continue to do that over and over again.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
That's interesting. Do you feel like it's because there were
less distractions?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah, I think it's hard.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Like co writing with anybody, you have to get this
flow and you have to understand how different people like
to work. I'm used to coming off of, you know,
the major label days, you know, back when I was
with Innerscope and other labels, going through what they called
the speed dating producer writer.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Phase of just like doing so many.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Songs in a row and you're really you gotta clock
over your shoulder, you know, and it's watching and you
wanna not waste time.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
So I've been in this kind of mode of.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Like, let's go, go go, and Drew has been in
the space of just letting things breathe for so long
and like coming back to them and reapproaching them, and
over the years that's how I've I'm becoming more that
way of just not feeling like I need a fully finished,
polished track and new song in one day's time, and
(23:54):
sometimes it can come out that way. But I think
to to if you have the time, it's cool to
be able to honor a natural progression of thoughts and
state of consciousness. And so I'm glad. I'm really glad
that we were of part so that we could just
take more time to communicate where we were both at
(24:17):
through the process.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
You know, So are you writing a lot of together
on this album? Well, first of all, how much of
the record is done, by.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
The way, So I'm just kind of in the space
of like having a lot of the tunes I know
I want to be on the record, but I'm not
even fully finished with production or anything yet, so it's
gonna take some time. I basically, in my honest to
god truth here, I've just been so on the road,
(24:44):
and I've also been a part of so many different
people's projects, So what's new, right?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
So for me, I'm just like I have given I
don't have a big window at all to create this
fifth album right now, so I'm kind of taking some
of the stress off of myself and saying, let's just
focus on song at a time. Let's make it honest.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
And real and true and release those songs when when
the feeling is right and I'm no longer putting that
pressure cooker on myself. So I don't have an official
date for the next album. All I know is I'm
going to just continuously put out new tracks and I'm
hoping to continue to put them out throughout the summer.
(25:26):
So when I'm on the road, you know, in some
of these arenas and huge venues with Red Clay Strays
and on my own headlining shows, i can just showcase
some new stuff because I'm ready and I know people
are ready to.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
So, by the way, how'd you look up with the Red.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah, they're amazing.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
So Brandon and their band they hit me up on
Instagram and they were telling me that they are fans of.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Mine and that they'd like to come see a sh show.
And I was like, well, wow.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I really I didn't remember that they've already been on
my radar, and I look them up and I actually
talked with Drew and he's like, we've listened to them,
and we've also called it out that we knew that
they would blow up in the future. So here they
are coming back full circle. I look them up again,
I'm like, oh my god, I remember these guys from
(26:23):
years a couple of years back, and just you know,
knowing how authentic their sound was, and they're bringing back
you know that Allman Brothers needs, you know, Cocker and
his band and just so many like amazing classic references
and nods that they that they have in that group.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
So anyway, long story short, they were like well. I
was like, well, I'd love to come see one of
your shows. And they're like, okay, we'll be at the
Greek like next year. This is like so early on
and I was.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Like cool, and he's like, we'll put you on the list.
So it gets closer to me, like, actually, would you
want to come up? And I was like yeah. So
I also asked if they'd be down to do Jealous Guy,
the Donnie Hathaway version. So they were down, and Brandon
really was kind and said a lot of cool kind
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words about me and that he's been a fan of
my vocals for like a decade or more. So it
was just this mutual love fest on stage and off,
and I you know, I've been praying and hoping for
more of these kind of organic happenings to come out
about because and to just put me in the right
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circle with people that I truly connect with. And these
guys are just so soul to the earth, you know
that it just it feels so kismet to be in
their you know, world right now. So I'm really excited
to do more with them and get out on the
road and watch their shows because they're so The records
are already amazing, and to see them live it's just explosive.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
It's interesting. I've talked a lot about this with you
know lately. You That's where I've been. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I'm doing a lot of jazz writing for the La Times,
you know, and like, but I've talked so much about
this with Carlos Santana, you know, and like the spirit
of collaboration, because he's one of the people to me
who gets it most of any living musician. And not
all musicians get it. But you know, you look at
your collaborations with Robbie and the people you've worked with,
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Steven Tyler, and it's like you definitely do so for
you like when you started collaborating or you know, working
with Reg stres like just as friends, you know, did
you feel it instantly that it was one of those
things that it was like going to be an effective
collaboration like you have with Robbie.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I mean, you know, Brandon is so cool and I
know they kind of have their own huge empire machine going.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
But he's like, we got to do more, you know,
we got to do a song, We gotta do this.
So I'm I'm here for any and all of it.
But yes, we definitely. When we were hanging out by
the taco truck after the Greek together, like until they
literally got on their bus and waved goodbye, we were
talking and just saying.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
To each other, I feel like I've known you for years,
like this is it's surprising, but it's not. And I
think a lot of it is just because we're both
rooted in a lot of similar things and our morals
and in music that we love, and so it just
it did feel like we'd known.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Each other for a very, very long time. And you
can't replicate those kind of relationships, especially ones that it
feel like they just happened so quickly. So I'm really
grateful that this.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Is, you know, the beginning of what seems like a
long standing relationship between us.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Well, like I said, you have that work with Robbie,
Robbie Creeker. Of course of the doors for those you
know who don't know. But I mean for you to
talk about what you look for and the people you
do work with and how you can like Because it's
funny you say you and Brandon are kind of rooted
in the same worlds and sound but obviously you and Robbie,
you know why, you may have similar influences come from
totally different eras. To talk about what makes that connection
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or like how you feel it or whatever, because I
always talking about other people. Right, you can love someone
as a person, doesn't mean you have chemistry with them, right,
And if you know you can think, oh it is
the coolest person, let's go hang out, but doesn't mean
you can work with them.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
That's true. That's a good question.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
And point I think, well, first of all, these people,
these amazing legends like Robbie Kreeger and in the acting
Slash Jazz World, Jeff Goldblum, like, these amazing people have
reached out to me from the get go, and so
I feel like I'm putting.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Out this like web of nostalgia for them.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
And they see in me that like I have the
spirit of that inside. So I feel like I'm a
big time manifestor I'm constantly just putting it out there.
Please have the right people that want to find me
find me. So I just feel again, so freaking lucky
that I've had Robbie approach me and Jeff and all
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kinds of people, and Robbie, you know, like there is
this love when we were together, Like I look at
him like he's a young boy, like he's just starting out.
Because number one, he acts like this smooth, like just chill,
chill kid, but he's also just playing like he was too.
He's still out there just ripping it on stage. We
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just played. I just sang with him and we did,
you know, things like Summertime and just jammed on so
many different tunes at his eightieth birthday, as you know,
in La somewhere, and it was just like, I don't know,
I look at him like he is still a teen,
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and I think we just see in each other that
like there's something about that music that will never age,
you know, it's still it's still in our hearts, youthful
to us.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
So there's definitely this kindred spirit nature between us. For sure.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
That's fascinating because I was at the Resonator Awards earlier
this year and I was talking with John Mayer, who,
in our first interview is two thousand and four, and
we were talking about the fact that, like, how is
that possible because we both still feel like we're twenty
two And I just saw Springsteen. My first Springsteen show
was well a lot more than twenty two years ago,
(32:38):
let's put it that way. But it's funny when you
see it, you still feel like you're sixteen. So I realized, like,
music is probably the one tree thing that can like
sort of fight time. So for you, what are those
like an we know we were talking about Angie's wedding
and the Beatles and all that.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
What are those songs for you?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
And what is like the one great escape song that
takes you back to being like six years old?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
I I'll first say that I'm so glad that my
folks that are still doing it fifty years later, because
I do think it's a time machine in so many
different ways, and that it keeps us young in spirit.
So I think that musicians we have, we're not only
so lucky to just do our passion and try to
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spread that feeling to an entire crowd and then the
people out in the world listening. But we're so lucky
that we're able to channel things and also just keep
this like youthfulness inside of us forever as long as
you're doing it so and I think it just keeps
up chops on.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
So many different levels. You hear all these studies about people.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
That play that saying, and then on top of it,
the ones that play instruments, how it really rewires your brain.
So on a chemical, you know, scientific kind of level,
it's it's pretty fascinating to see. And also obviously like
those with Alzheimer's how they can go back down memorily
lane and then have verbatim all of these songs just
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locked in their brains and in their fingers when they're
playing these instruments and they go back to capture those
memories once again. So all that to say, like that's
incredible as it is, but there's songs.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Like, you know, one of the first ones I got
up on stage.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
To sing was Can't Find My Way Home from Blind
Faith with my dad, and we still do that together.
So that's the kind of tune that I watched him
perform first, and then I got up and started singing
it with him as a duet. Then I went and
recorded it for my own album that I did to
tape at Sunset Sound as a tribute to the late sixties,
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and he got to perform it play it with me
with a full band. So it's like, these are the
things that mean everything to me. And then even a
weirder extension of that is the way that Jeff Goldblum
heard me, because because he listened to that song in
the car with his kid and they were crying. So
it's like this really weird full circle, you know, experience
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of the passion that you feel for a song like that,
you try to capture it in your own way, and
then you're you're hearing how other people are affected by it.
I mean, that's that's just such a gift on so
many levels.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
It's I mean, it's funny. I love that song so.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Much, And it's interesting because between that's when I was
interviewing Steve Winwood for my Anthems book. I really wanted
him to pick that song and he chose give Me
Some Loving, And it's like, you know, I mean, there's
so many great songs.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
How do you argue that? But I fucking love him.
Find My Way Home that's just me one of the
greatest songs of all time.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Me too.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
It might be Yeah, it's definitely certainly top three, it
might be number one. It's just there's a there's a
feeling you get, you know, and it's like, it's hard
to describe if it's if it's it's teeter tottering on
both like when you fall in love, when your heart's broken.
It's just that, like very much back to that nostalgic
feeling of just the in between.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
It's it's all of it. It's everything, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, I know, it's amazing songs, so so for you.
I mean, you know, it's kind of fascinating when you're
doing this stuff then, and like because it's interesting, you know,
someone like you who's been singing your whole life, whether
it's with your parents, on your own, when you're on stage,
do songs from different eras take you to different points
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in your life? Or like, are you perpetually one age?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah, that's an interesting way to look at it.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I mean I had never thought about this until but
it does. Music is that time travel thing. So it's
like if you're singing a song that you sing with
your parents, yes, are you sinking or are you like
always kind of when you on stage on Europe for
the first time, you know, So that's a fascinating to me.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yeah, it does.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
It takes me right back there to those you know,
when I was like eight years old starting to get
on stage, and you know, I'd have I'd have a voice,
but I'd also be kind of more timid in my stance.
And sometimes I'll literally channel and go back to that
that same kind of feeling and way when I'm when
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I'm doing that again with them, you know, back home
or something.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
It's so it it is. It's a time traveling experience,
you know.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
And I again, like we've always we talked about this
a lot, Steep, but I do feel like I have
a lot to offer as an artist doing my like
retro soulful pop meets jazz meets rock and roll in
certain ways, but on the rock and roll front, like
that is so much of my heart.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
So when I do get to do these random things
like even last.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Night going to the goddamn comedy jam at the Roxy
and getting up and performing Long Train, running with you know,
Josh Wolf and hanging back with my buddy Bill Bird.
You know, we did Fis for Family together with him
and the host.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Josh Adam Meyers.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Like there's just all these cool circles of different people
that are just.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
That love rock and roll and we're all here to
keep it alive, even if it's also through comedy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Well, I mean, you know, I've talked about this a
lot with people, especially doing jazz stuff, and that's why
I'm doing huge puing El Todavis Centennial piece.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Now.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
I mean, you know, jazz musicians used to take out
comics all the time, and I mean even when you
think about it, like Springsteen is my favorite artist of
all time Open for Cheech and Chong at the Roxy
mm hmm. Yeah, so there is a tectic correlation. So wait,
what comic do you most emulate when you're singing?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
WHOA? I mean, what comic do I emulate while I'm singing?
Like you know, yeah, well okay, I could, well I could.
I don't.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
I don't know if you would consider like May West
even a comic, but like I feel like I channel
more of of her kind of sass if you will,
meets like a you know, Lucille ball in moments and.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
You know.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
But then there's also there's singers that are that are
purely singers that would never be called a comedian per se,
like Akilely Smith, but they're up there and they have
so much.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Sass and and comedic timing.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
And those people, to me, are are definitely role models
always have been. So yeah, I don't know if that
answered your question, but you know, I certainly look to
my the ladies that have implemented both comedy in interweaved with.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Their song and their voice, and I respect that so
much and I have fun with that. It's just I
feel like it's kind of like me being able.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
To be the realist version of myself. It's like kind
of almost the opposite of an alter ego.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
It's like when you're.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
First meeting people, you kind of I like to just
sit back and observe sometimes, but when you really get
to know me, I can be.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
A really fun, little weirdo.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
So I feel like when I'm on stage it's kind
of my time to channel like who I really am, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Which I think is natural of every musician in the world.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Help So like, you know, but as someone who's interviewed
it fucking everyone musicians kind of like, you know, that's
their Most musicians are introverts. You mentioned being at Muhammad
Alist party and talking with Chris, who was a friend
for a long time and love that dude so much,
and he always said the most interesting thing to me
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was that, like, musicians never come from the cool. It's
there always the outcasts, and that's it's all turned out
to be true, even if you're like attractive, Like I
remember writing interviewing not long ago, Maggie Lindemann right has
like twenty million followers, one of the most beautiful women
of the world, all of this, you know, So that's
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just she still remembers being traumatized by not being invited
to her best friend's birthday at seven. Like as a musician,
you feel thing so different deeply, you never get over them.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Yeah, that's that's a really good point, you know, the underdog,
the outcast. It's like you could still be totally popular
as well and still feel so alone in so many ways.
So I feel that I feel that on a real
deep level for sure.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
So were you the outcast too?
Speaker 4 (41:48):
I mean I was a complete social butterfly and I had.
I would make friends in every single group, even the
ones that other people would make fun of, you know,
So that was who I was because I I saw
the reflections of these people that were getting picked on
or whatnot. I would always stick up and stand up
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to the bullies. And I got bullied too, like so
much so even and it's hilarious, but even for my voice,
you know, like I would get told I, you know,
had that raspy like kind of a boyish voice, and
I was like, well, shit, now I get to get
paid for it on a Netflix animated series.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Epis for families that screw up.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
So but yes, I feel like I've I could be
in room full of a lot of people and still
feel alone at times or just not completely seen. And
you know, there's layers. There's just so many layers to people,
and you could look and judge a book by its cover,
but that doesn't mean anything. You know, people are people
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are really, they just have a lot of layers to them.
And I don't think everybody realizes that.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
I'm gonna wrap up on some fun. We'll wrap up
on a fund out and then we'll wrap up on
the song.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
But you know you mentioned the mahamadalithing for you, what
was the best, most memorable, most entertaining party you've been to?
Because I was thinking about this, there's always so many
crazy La nights, even know Muhamma, all these.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Birthday parties always in Arizona, So it wasn't in La.
I knew that that.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Yeah, that one was in Vegas and uh, honest to god,
I mean that was insane.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
I hung out.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
So another cool part of that was Quincy Jones walked
right past his own green room and he just sat
by me in mind. And there was a woman like
one of the pas that came in and she's like, Hayley,
I want to get you out front, but there's so
many donors that are like, you know, really like putting
so much into this event, Like would you mind if
I got you out in one of the front tables
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just to watch because I just wanted the experience to
watch out front?
Speaker 3 (44:03):
Do you mind if I get you out there later?
And I felt so sad for a moment.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
And then I looked to my left and I'm like,
I'm chilling here with Quincy Jones, who's telling me stories
about him and Frank Sinatra drinking in asana at three
am in Chicago. I'm just like, what do I have
to be sad about?
Speaker 4 (44:22):
This was like an experience of a lifetime and him
and I are watching you know, the playback on a
little screen in our green room together.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
But we spent we spent over five hours hanging out.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
And then got to just be a part of a
pretty much a conga line of absolute legends and go
out there and sing with Stevie Wonder, sing to Muhammad Ali.
And I'll never that's the kind of the point I
will also always go back to in my mind because
I'm on stage with I mean, probably up to fifty
people that are absolute legends, and I think the only
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women were me and and is it Kelly Roland.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
And I'm just like astounded.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
That I'm able to be a part of this and
I was so young, like twenty one, and also that
like I'm being received so well.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
And everybody is so kind. So I get to look
at my heroes and know that's that.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Much of them, if not every single one of them
in that arena, and that then you were so cool,
kind and present, and I was just like.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Okay, this is this is amazing. I will cherish this forever.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Very cool, and so you know, we talked about not
doing promise at the wedding. For you, what's interesting I've
talked about this is so many people right when you
put a song out, it's no longer yours. The world
takes it. It becomes there. Like Shnia's Wain was telling
me that you're still the one, you know, And it's
interesting because that was a song she wrote for her
husband who then cheated on her, so and it becomes
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a huge fucking hit. And she was telling me that
the way she was able to adapt and continue it
on was singing about other people.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Getting married to it and stuff.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
So for you, what it is like the dream for
a promise, you know, like the sort of like, you know,
what were the stories that would be most meaningful to
you from other people for the song?
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Right, It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
It's been out for just a few weeks now and
I'm already having people reaching out saying like, this is
gonna be my wedding song.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
So that's a huge honor alone. That was part of
my hope for the song. And I really did want
to hone in on specifically on the love for.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Our pet babies. Because that to me, like there's not
enough love even shown. And maybe people even write songs
about their dogs and their pets, but it's not always
like full blown exposed and talked about being that until
you hear like the back back, backstory, like years down
the line. So yeah, I mean again, I think this
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should really connect to people all facets of love, and
if it can be the next big wedding song, I
am here for it. If it can be you know,
the song that they play when they're like just cuddling
with their their favorite pet, and I just I wanted
to make people feel just Butterfly is full of love.
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So I feel like we I nailed that, thankfully with
Can't Help Falling in Love, and it blew up to
be something way more than I ever expected. So hopefully, yeah,
hopefully I can get another sync with it like I
did with Extra Gum, and hopefully it can go organically
to radio again, and then it can just connect with
people and make them feel like, you know, this song
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is they're what they're feeling inside, you know, the kind
of devotion that they feel for their loved ones and
their pets
Hey, it's Steve Balton and this week on in servisav
I am joined by a longtime friend, the wonderful Haley
Ryan Hart.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You can hear into the conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
It's just two friends catching up talking about her brilliant
new song promise, singing at her sister's wedding, hanging at
Muhammad Ali's birthday party, with the likes of Chris Cornell
and Slash and so much more. I've known Haley for
many years. She's a dear friend, an amazing singer, a
wonderful person, and I had a lot of fun with
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her on this episode. And of course we talked a
lot as well about dogs, pets, stuff that really matters
in life. So I hope you enjoyed this interview as
much as I did. It was great to catch up
with Haley. So obvious questions, well, first off, good see you,
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thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
What did you sing? It was sister's wedding.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I got to do moon River with my dad for
her Hubbies first dance with his mom, and I also
did Canel Falling in Love Naturally with my fiance and piano,
so it was very family oriented. I was also going
to do a Beatles song, but I'm kind of glad
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we're saving it since if I fell, I want to
use this like me and my dad song, since we've
always played it together. So I'm excited for that in
the future.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You didn't do the problems though, No.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
We almost did, but she asked us, and I was like, oh,
I might save it for mine, and you know, at
the end of the day, like it would have been sweet,
but truly, I just I wanted to be everything I
could for her.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
So I was made of honor and I just had
a lot of tasks and it was beautiful. I was
so honored to have that role for her. So she
kind of wanted it.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But I was like, let's just like have this.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Night and like we'll make it about you know, me
and my promise down the line at my wedding.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You know, it's interesting. I've thought about this a lot
of late and you know, say, your how old?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Now we don't have to put this part in the interview.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Well we work with any but I know you're not
twenty two anymore, even though you still look.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
At it.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Thirty five.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, but what's not bring this up right?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
No, I think that's good because you know, I think
when you're in your twenties, I'm sure you have this
experience deal. You have all these amazing moments that you
think are just going to happen again and again and
again because you have a perspective, you have no realization.
But I always go back to you, Right, there's one
night in particular I think about now that if happened
(03:07):
to me today, I would like literally fucking die. But
at them at the time, I was like twenty six,
twenty seven, how old girl? And so I was like, ah,
that's not happened all the time. But I was covering
for roly Stone a BMI Awards, where I meant the
same night, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, and Bo Diddley all
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in the same nights, right, and now you would just
like die. And at the time, now you're like young
and stupid. So where I'm going with this? Do you
feel like you appreciate something like your sister's wedding so
much more and being there and singing at it and
doing all this, because again, when you're twenty two, you
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just don't really have the perspective to understand like these
kind of special nights don't happen all the time.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Yeah, I totally hear what you're saying, and I felt
I'm just like a super sensitive, empathic, very nostalgic kind
of girl. So even like in my past, let's say
in my twenties, or for one example, performing with Slash
and Miles Kennedy at Muhammad Ali's seventieth birthday at the MGM,
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like there was that was the most one of the
most star studed nights where I just you know, turned
over my shoulder and there's Chris Cornell and there's you know,
Lenny Kravitz and Snoops standing next to me put in
their arms over me, like it was one of those nights.
But I've not really ever been the type to let
it kind of.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Just roll past me.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I've I'm like, I get emotional, man, So I was
in those kind of moments. I've kind of always been
the type of person where I see the future in
the moment, and I think that's kind of called like
pre nostalgia. I'm not quite positive, but I feel already
emotional knowing how monumental this moment is to me and
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that I need to be hyper vigilant, aware, present in
the moment because it won't be like this again. So
I've always kind of just been weird like that and
missed things before they were gone.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
And that's just my weirdness.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I guess that's fascinating to me though, because don't you
in a weird way. Then I feel like you're kind
of missing out on something by you know, like thinking
about it as.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
It's gone before it already is gone.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, man, And I think that's like kind of been
a constant meditation for me to sit with because you
can't have we have nothing but the present.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
So I've kind of tried to dial.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Back those feelings of at least you know, potential future
sorrow or whatever you want to call it, and just
really try to focus on I'm here and now, and
especially when I'm on stage, you know, I like to
be extra sure now that I'm looking in the eyes
of all the musicians and I'm soaking it up so
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much so where I know I'll be able to kind
of have these tangible feelings and sensations when I think
back to these memories, you know, down the line.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So for your sister's wedding them, were you able to
kind of do that a little bit?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Are you getting better at it?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, I mean I cried my ass off, but either way,
I was certainly present, and yeah, I think I've found
the balance at this stage of my life, so I
was able to fully enjoy it, and I think I'm
going to remember it so vividly. It was such a
classic wedding anyway, So a day that we have waited
(06:53):
for for so long, and there was so much Beetles
in the lineup for us because there were such Beetle freaks.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
And yeah, it's just so many precious moments, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So all right, obvious, what were the Beatles songs you mentioned?
If I fell?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah, so if I fell, it was definite, certainly me
and my dad's and I was waiting and I already
knew my sister and my dad would dance to hear
Comes the Sun.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
So I was a mess for that.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Sitting on the floor like a little girl watching them
and trying to film at the same time and cry,
and you know, beyond Beatles, there was also some really
cool moments. My mom and dad did Danny song together
and they're still performing, you know, fifty years later. So
it was all of these these moments and things that Angie,
(07:40):
my sister and I have have always, you know, really
just admired watching our parents do. So she handpicked that
song for them to do and we're just all water works.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But again, just precious, precious moments. I don't I could
never forget.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Very cool and for you then, I mean, is it
something that, like, you know, now that you're getting ready
to go back out on the road and you just
have these experiences, are you able to kind of appreciate
them more because you're able to kind of live in
those moments.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yeah, I feel grateful that I've able, I've been able
to navigate my schedule in such a balance way as.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Of late, and you know, sometimes I've had to miss
out of course on very special events.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
But truly, I think I do prioritize my family and
my friends as much as I possibly can. So I've
made it for so many big, big things, big life happenings,
and I wouldn't regret that for the world. So it
does feel good knowing I'll be back out on the road,
I'll be doing my own stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
And also.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Ten dates with the Red Clay Strays coming up, So
I think I have a lot of personal you know,
just the beautiful memories to hold on to and carry
me through this next you know, hall of Dates.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
All right, so obvious question. How much is Promised indicative
of the rest of the album. I mean it's a
very like you know, it's just like this very beautiful
but like very like not somber, but like just very
quiet song, you know, very ballad, is that like? You know,
it's very authentic and very I mean, it's just a
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straight love song.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, yeah, I think it'll stick out on the record.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
What's that? Oh, I was just gonna say it, you know,
the rest of the record or.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah, I think it's gonna stick out from the rest
of the record, but i'd like to I'm already in
the works of having some sister songs I like to
call it, you know, so that it has a pairing
at least with another tune that is in the same vein.
I always often like to try to do that if
it feels natural and if it feels right so for me,
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I think they'll definitely be something similar, but Promise will
still probably stick out, as you know, truly the follow
up to Kennel Falling in Love, but in original take
this time, seeing as though that song did so well
for me and I'm you know, really excited to just
hopefully have it be another hit that's also a part
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of people's love stories and their weddings and about pets.
You know, everybody loves their their animals, So I just
wanted this song to really like speak to the full
capacity of love and every.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Angle of it, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
No, I love that because I remember it being Dave
Bailey from Glass Animals and he was telling me our
writing songs for his dogs, you know, And I think that,
you know, that is a very authentic thing. I mean,
you know, so I love that you're targets in the
video as well.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yes, yes, she's she's the starlet.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
And we were like up on that mountain somewhere in
Woodland Hills and freezing our tails off together.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And we're just like shivering trying to look like normal.
But she's a little model girl.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
I love Pepper, and you know, we love our Red
Healer that we used to have she passed now, and
our our Blue Healer. The cattle dogs are just the best.
So I'm so happy that she gets to be a
part of.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
The single and I get to showcase, you know, my
love and devotion for.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Her well, and I love that you know, you say
she's starlet, but then I also like your little Maryland
and Madge as well.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Love Bang, You're so You're so good Steeve, I uh yeah,
I just wanted to have another element of the studio
and I'm so happy I got to do it there
because I was really recording. So what you're seeing in
the video is actually the takes that I'm doing for
the most part at lear By Studios, and that's Manny
(12:10):
marle Kene's amazing studio attached to his awesome restaurant Verse
and where they do so many amazing live performances all
the time. So that was it felt very special, and
I wanted to add that classic feel a la Marilyn
Monroe and just give a little bit of a nod
with that dress.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I guess too, I was going to say that normally
recorded Maryland dress.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I mean, I am that kind of person that likes
to just dress up no matter what.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I mean. You've known me for years now, and it's
like I'm either going to be wearing my oversized rolling
Stone T.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Shirt or I'm like going all out into some you know,
cool vintage kind of fits.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
So I think there's really no one between. For me,
it's one or the other.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
All right, So did you hear the new Stone song yet?
By the way, did it just come out yesterday? Yeah,
I haven't listened, so no judgment, but I wearing the
Stone shirt.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, I know, I haven't yet, but I've been.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
It's funny because I'll always support them no matter what.
So there's been some things popping up on my Instagram,
but I haven't even listened. I'm just liking so I
didn't even know that wasn't actually.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
On my radar. I'm gonna listen as soon as we're
off the phone. That's fun.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Again, I like, I haven't had a chance to listen yet,
but I mean I'm definitely, you know, curious.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah, which way they're going?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I had to wait now for you. I mean, let's
have some fun with this for a second. I mean,
what is like, how many times have you seen the Stones?
First of all, I think three?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah, and the last time was at the I do
not want to call it old Chella because this.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Was my Woodstock Okay, this was the Yes, the Desert
Trip Festival.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Once in a lifetime concert that will never be forgotten.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
In my heart. Was there? Who's your favorite that weekend.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Well, shoot, man, I mean I I really I bawled
my eyes out watching the Stones like he was. I
was pretty I was so close to the stage and
he's mixed out on that catwalk and it just I
was just stunned. I was just dead in my stop,
dead in my track's mouth open and like crying. I've
(15:01):
seen Paul so many times as well, I'll always be amazed.
He's my favorite. I think he's probably like my biggest
vocal inspiration ever, so.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
He's always in my They're both my tops.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
But then you have every other act that was so
I mean, Neil Young really stole the show in so
many ways, so many people have talked about, which you know,
I never had seen him till then, so that was
really cool.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
But I love I Love the Who. Bob Dylan got
his Nobel Peace Prize of the day before and it was
all mysterious, of course, which I loved. And then and
then Roger.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Waters put in, like I don't know, for something crazy
like four or forty milli extra bucks into his set,
So you're like watching everybody kind of shift in the
crowd when they hear the trains and the clocks.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
And the money going around surround sounds.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
So it was I can't even hardly like pinpoint the
best moments, the best moment or act because as a collective,
this was just the greatest thing that I could have
ever imagined in my generation to still be able to
go out and see you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
See that's interesting though, because and I was there, and
I can totally say for me it was having seen
all of them multiple times, it was Neil Young absolutely dominated.
He was amazing.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, and you know, we.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Won't even talk about Roger Waters because you know, the
flots be if you have nothing nice to say. You know,
I used to be saying white fam but what a
pump is ass, you know. But it's interesting that you
say that because I've also been to eighteen Pachellas. I've
been to you know, so many like you know, other
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festivals as you have performed at. So it's interesting that
you say at thirty five that it was your you know, Woodstock.
I mean, you know, I'm curious there at the vessel
as you've been to that you feel I've been close
or at the moments you've seen that really stood out
to you.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I mean going to cross Roads as a kid in
Chicago amazing.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
You know, I got to see so many blues legends,
so many rock and roll legends, Like I went to
Crossroad here in LA as well for the first.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Time a couple of years back. Now, fantastic.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, I'm the only time they've ever done it here.
Is that? What that's the only time they've ever done here?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Wow, that was it.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, I hadn't realized that, but that was fantastic. Even
though I love it being outdoors, you know, for.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
The most part here.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
It's back in Austin this year.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Okay, cool?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
So yeah, Chicago, I mean it was so fitting and
growing up like I would I would go as a kid,
so it was so cool to be exposed.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
To so many favorites.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
And back then and Jazz Fest, you know, I would
perform with the New Orleans Jazz Orchestra there, and I've
gotten to see some more favorites, you know, Robert Plant, Hosier,
and they do a good job of.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Even though it's not all jazz obviously, of mixing some
of these legends that everybody would really care to see
with a lot of the more you know, traditional and
fusion jazz acts.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
As well, so they did a good job of that too. Yeah,
I'm trying to think of anymore that stick out. There
was I was just trying to think, Uh, that.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Was the latest thing. I want to I really hope
I can.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I'm so bummed I missed the Stones and and Paul
in their last you know runs. But I do really
pray I can have the opportunity to see them again
because it just never gets old to me.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So for you, it's always been an old soul kind
of thing.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah, I just it just resonates with my soul so much.
I I've never been a.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I've only been to.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Me.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I'm just curious, you know.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah, I mean it's for me, like even though I'm
I'm the younger generation, I've lived vicuriously through my parents,
you know, and their music my whole life. And I
obviously really do attribute that to growing up watching their
bands perform all this music and just being hooked. You know,
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my mom's doing Gray Slick and all these all these
amazing you know, Janie, since I was just a baby
going to these clubs. So I was just completely hooked
from day one on this meeting, and you know, there's
there's so much feel.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I don't have to tell you, Steve.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
It's like the feel and the emotion that just blasts
through and crackles through those speakers is just you cannot
replicate that. And in a world of crazy AI, it's
it's going to be, I would hope and imagine it's
going to be put up on an even higher pedestal
for artists and young people alike to just want to
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dive into even further because and just be inspired by
I mean, I'm inspired by it. I just I've taken
as many, you know, hint, as many tips as I
can through those artists to just remain as authentic as
possible and as raw as possible, and to just put
the paintbrush down after so long and not perfect every
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little thing because I'm a virgo. I'd love to perfect
every little thing, but it's just not the way that
rock and roll or all music or jazz, any of
it should be at its core. It should just be
true and real with feeling.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Well that Ti I didn't nicely with promise, I mean
for you talk about you know the writing of that song,
and I mean you and Drew.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Co wrote that one right, Yes, yeah, you know, because
it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I mean, so many artists I've talked to you have
talked about, you know, especially the classic era where you
didn't have thirteen people writing.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
One fucking song.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
The idea is like a song will just come to you.
It's almost like channeling. Well it's not almost like channeling.
It is like channeling.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
People talk about the antenna being up and it just
comes in. So was that song very direct to you?
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Yes, Drew and I honestly did feel like we were
channeling something that was just completely coming through us because
we were also writing from Afar. We've tried to write
together in the same room and we have so many
fragments of material. But then it took for us to
have more of a deadline.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
In a way, and him being.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Like five hours north and me being on the road,
and then here back in La to write it over
the phone together and send each other bits of information.
So it's like this complete morphed duet of a writing experience.
But we did it remotely, and I.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Think it's so cool.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
I think that we found we unlock something within our
own partnership of writing now where I think it's just
taught us even a cooler way or a cool way
to communicate.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Even though we're not in the same room.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
So if we could do that, I'm like, Okay, I
think we got something here because it just came flowing
out from both sides. So yeah, I hope we can
just continue to do that over and over again.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
That's interesting. Do you feel like it's because there were
less distractions?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah, I think it's hard.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Like co writing with anybody, you have to get this
flow and you have to understand how different people like
to work. I'm used to coming off of, you know,
the major label days, you know, back when I was
with Innerscope and other labels, going through what they called
the speed dating producer writer.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Phase of just like doing so many.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Songs in a row and you're really you gotta clock
over your shoulder, you know, and it's watching and you
wanna not waste time.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
So I've been in this kind of mode of.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Like, let's go, go go, and Drew has been in
the space of just letting things breathe for so long
and like coming back to them and reapproaching them, and
over the years that's how I've I'm becoming more that
way of just not feeling like I need a fully finished,
polished track and new song in one day's time, and
(23:54):
sometimes it can come out that way. But I think
to to if you have the time, it's cool to
be able to honor a natural progression of thoughts and
state of consciousness. And so I'm glad. I'm really glad
that we were of part so that we could just
take more time to communicate where we were both at
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through the process.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
You know, So are you writing a lot of together
on this album? Well, first of all, how much of
the record is done, by.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
The way, So I'm just kind of in the space
of like having a lot of the tunes I know
I want to be on the record, but I'm not
even fully finished with production or anything yet, so it's
gonna take some time. I basically, in my honest to
god truth here, I've just been so on the road,
(24:44):
and I've also been a part of so many different
people's projects, So what's new, right?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
So for me, I'm just like I have given I
don't have a big window at all to create this
fifth album right now, so I'm kind of taking some
of the stress off of myself and saying, let's just
focus on song at a time. Let's make it honest.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
And real and true and release those songs when when
the feeling is right and I'm no longer putting that
pressure cooker on myself. So I don't have an official
date for the next album. All I know is I'm
going to just continuously put out new tracks and I'm
hoping to continue to put them out throughout the summer.
(25:26):
So when I'm on the road, you know, in some
of these arenas and huge venues with Red Clay Strays
and on my own headlining shows, i can just showcase
some new stuff because I'm ready and I know people
are ready to.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
So, by the way, how'd you look up with the Red.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah, they're amazing.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
So Brandon and their band they hit me up on
Instagram and they were telling me that they are fans of.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Mine and that they'd like to come see a sh show.
And I was like, well, wow.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I really I didn't remember that they've already been on
my radar, and I look them up and I actually
talked with Drew and he's like, we've listened to them,
and we've also called it out that we knew that
they would blow up in the future. So here they
are coming back full circle. I look them up again,
I'm like, oh my god, I remember these guys from
(26:23):
years a couple of years back, and just you know,
knowing how authentic their sound was, and they're bringing back
you know that Allman Brothers needs, you know, Cocker and
his band and just so many like amazing classic references
and nods that they that they have in that group.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
So anyway, long story short, they were like well. I
was like, well, I'd love to come see one of
your shows. And they're like, okay, we'll be at the
Greek like next year. This is like so early on
and I was.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Like cool, and he's like, we'll put you on the list.
So it gets closer to me, like, actually, would you
want to come up? And I was like yeah. So
I also asked if they'd be down to do Jealous Guy,
the Donnie Hathaway version. So they were down, and Brandon
really was kind and said a lot of cool kind
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words about me and that he's been a fan of
my vocals for like a decade or more. So it
was just this mutual love fest on stage and off,
and I you know, I've been praying and hoping for
more of these kind of organic happenings to come out
about because and to just put me in the right
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circle with people that I truly connect with. And these
guys are just so soul to the earth, you know
that it just it feels so kismet to be in
their you know, world right now. So I'm really excited
to do more with them and get out on the
road and watch their shows because they're so The records
are already amazing, and to see them live it's just explosive.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
It's interesting. I've talked a lot about this with you
know lately. You That's where I've been. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I'm doing a lot of jazz writing for the La Times,
you know, and like, but I've talked so much about
this with Carlos Santana, you know, and like the spirit
of collaboration, because he's one of the people to me
who gets it most of any living musician. And not
all musicians get it. But you know, you look at
your collaborations with Robbie and the people you've worked with,
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Steven Tyler, and it's like you definitely do so for
you like when you started collaborating or you know, working
with Reg stres like just as friends, you know, did
you feel it instantly that it was one of those
things that it was like going to be an effective
collaboration like you have with Robbie.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I mean, you know, Brandon is so cool and I
know they kind of have their own huge empire machine going.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
But he's like, we got to do more, you know,
we got to do a song, We gotta do this.
So I'm I'm here for any and all of it.
But yes, we definitely. When we were hanging out by
the taco truck after the Greek together, like until they
literally got on their bus and waved goodbye, we were
talking and just saying.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
To each other, I feel like I've known you for years,
like this is it's surprising, but it's not. And I
think a lot of it is just because we're both
rooted in a lot of similar things and our morals
and in music that we love, and so it just
it did feel like we'd known.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Each other for a very, very long time. And you
can't replicate those kind of relationships, especially ones that it
feel like they just happened so quickly. So I'm really
grateful that this.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Is, you know, the beginning of what seems like a
long standing relationship between us.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Well, like I said, you have that work with Robbie,
Robbie Creeker. Of course of the doors for those you
know who don't know. But I mean for you to
talk about what you look for and the people you
do work with and how you can like Because it's
funny you say you and Brandon are kind of rooted
in the same worlds and sound but obviously you and Robbie,
you know why, you may have similar influences come from
totally different eras. To talk about what makes that connection
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or like how you feel it or whatever, because I
always talking about other people. Right, you can love someone
as a person, doesn't mean you have chemistry with them, right,
And if you know you can think, oh it is
the coolest person, let's go hang out, but doesn't mean
you can work with them.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
That's true. That's a good question.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
And point I think, well, first of all, these people,
these amazing legends like Robbie Kreeger and in the acting
Slash Jazz World, Jeff Goldblum, like, these amazing people have
reached out to me from the get go, and so
I feel like I'm putting.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Out this like web of nostalgia for them.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
And they see in me that like I have the
spirit of that inside. So I feel like I'm a
big time manifestor I'm constantly just putting it out there.
Please have the right people that want to find me
find me. So I just feel again, so freaking lucky
that I've had Robbie approach me and Jeff and all
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kinds of people, and Robbie, you know, like there is
this love when we were together, Like I look at
him like he's a young boy, like he's just starting out.
Because number one, he acts like this smooth, like just chill,
chill kid, but he's also just playing like he was too.
He's still out there just ripping it on stage. We
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just played. I just sang with him and we did,
you know, things like Summertime and just jammed on so
many different tunes at his eightieth birthday, as you know,
in La somewhere, and it was just like, I don't know,
I look at him like he is still a teen,
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and I think we just see in each other that
like there's something about that music that will never age,
you know, it's still it's still in our hearts, youthful
to us.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
So there's definitely this kindred spirit nature between us. For sure.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
That's fascinating because I was at the Resonator Awards earlier
this year and I was talking with John Mayer, who,
in our first interview is two thousand and four, and
we were talking about the fact that, like, how is
that possible because we both still feel like we're twenty
two And I just saw Springsteen. My first Springsteen show
was well a lot more than twenty two years ago,
(32:38):
let's put it that way. But it's funny when you
see it, you still feel like you're sixteen. So I realized, like,
music is probably the one tree thing that can like
sort of fight time. So for you, what are those
like an we know we were talking about Angie's wedding
and the Beatles and all that.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
What are those songs for you?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
And what is like the one great escape song that
takes you back to being like six years old?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
I I'll first say that I'm so glad that my
folks that are still doing it fifty years later, because
I do think it's a time machine in so many
different ways, and that it keeps us young in spirit.
So I think that musicians we have, we're not only
so lucky to just do our passion and try to
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spread that feeling to an entire crowd and then the
people out in the world listening. But we're so lucky
that we're able to channel things and also just keep
this like youthfulness inside of us forever as long as
you're doing it so and I think it just keeps
up chops on.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
So many different levels. You hear all these studies about people.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
That play that saying, and then on top of it,
the ones that play instruments, how it really rewires your brain.
So on a chemical, you know, scientific kind of level,
it's it's pretty fascinating to see. And also obviously like
those with Alzheimer's how they can go back down memorily
lane and then have verbatim all of these songs just
(34:07):
locked in their brains and in their fingers when they're
playing these instruments and they go back to capture those
memories once again. So all that to say, like that's
incredible as it is, but there's songs.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Like, you know, one of the first ones I got
up on stage.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
To sing was Can't Find My Way Home from Blind
Faith with my dad, and we still do that together.
So that's the kind of tune that I watched him
perform first, and then I got up and started singing
it with him as a duet. Then I went and
recorded it for my own album that I did to
tape at Sunset Sound as a tribute to the late sixties,
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and he got to perform it play it with me
with a full band. So it's like, these are the
things that mean everything to me. And then even a
weirder extension of that is the way that Jeff Goldblum
heard me, because because he listened to that song in
the car with his kid and they were crying. So
it's like this really weird full circle, you know, experience
(35:09):
of the passion that you feel for a song like that,
you try to capture it in your own way, and
then you're you're hearing how other people are affected by it.
I mean, that's that's just such a gift on so
many levels.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
It's I mean, it's funny. I love that song so.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Much, And it's interesting because between that's when I was
interviewing Steve Winwood for my Anthems book. I really wanted
him to pick that song and he chose give Me
Some Loving, And it's like, you know, I mean, there's
so many great songs.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
How do you argue that? But I fucking love him.
Find My Way Home that's just me one of the
greatest songs of all time.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Me too.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
It might be Yeah, it's definitely certainly top three, it
might be number one. It's just there's a there's a
feeling you get, you know, and it's like, it's hard
to describe if it's if it's it's teeter tottering on
both like when you fall in love, when your heart's broken.
It's just that, like very much back to that nostalgic
feeling of just the in between.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
It's it's all of it. It's everything, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, I know, it's amazing songs, so so for you.
I mean, you know, it's kind of fascinating when you're
doing this stuff then, and like because it's interesting, you know,
someone like you who's been singing your whole life, whether
it's with your parents, on your own, when you're on stage,
do songs from different eras take you to different points
(36:36):
in your life? Or like, are you perpetually one age?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah, that's an interesting way to look at it.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I mean I had never thought about this until but
it does. Music is that time travel thing. So it's
like if you're singing a song that you sing with
your parents, yes, are you sinking or are you like
always kind of when you on stage on Europe for
the first time, you know, So that's a fascinating to me.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yeah, it does.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
It takes me right back there to those you know,
when I was like eight years old starting to get
on stage, and you know, I'd have I'd have a voice,
but I'd also be kind of more timid in my stance.
And sometimes I'll literally channel and go back to that
that same kind of feeling and way when I'm when
(37:27):
I'm doing that again with them, you know, back home
or something.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
It's so it it is. It's a time traveling experience,
you know.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
And I again, like we've always we talked about this
a lot, Steep, but I do feel like I have
a lot to offer as an artist doing my like
retro soulful pop meets jazz meets rock and roll in
certain ways, but on the rock and roll front, like
that is so much of my heart.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
So when I do get to do these random things
like even last.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Night going to the goddamn comedy jam at the Roxy
and getting up and performing Long Train, running with you know,
Josh Wolf and hanging back with my buddy Bill Bird.
You know, we did Fis for Family together with him
and the host.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Josh Adam Meyers.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Like there's just all these cool circles of different people
that are just.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
That love rock and roll and we're all here to
keep it alive, even if it's also through comedy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Well, I mean, you know, I've talked about this a
lot with people, especially doing jazz stuff, and that's why
I'm doing huge puing El Todavis Centennial piece.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Now.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
I mean, you know, jazz musicians used to take out
comics all the time, and I mean even when you
think about it, like Springsteen is my favorite artist of
all time Open for Cheech and Chong at the Roxy
mm hmm. Yeah, so there is a tectic correlation. So wait,
what comic do you most emulate when you're singing?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
WHOA? I mean, what comic do I emulate while I'm singing?
Like you know, yeah, well okay, I could, well I could.
I don't.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
I don't know if you would consider like May West
even a comic, but like I feel like I channel
more of of her kind of sass if you will,
meets like a you know, Lucille ball in moments and.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
You know.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
But then there's also there's singers that are that are
purely singers that would never be called a comedian per se,
like Akilely Smith, but they're up there and they have
so much.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Sass and and comedic timing.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
And those people, to me, are are definitely role models
always have been. So yeah, I don't know if that
answered your question, but you know, I certainly look to
my the ladies that have implemented both comedy in interweaved with.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Their song and their voice, and I respect that so
much and I have fun with that. It's just I
feel like it's kind of like me being able.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
To be the realist version of myself. It's like kind
of almost the opposite of an alter ego.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
It's like when you're.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
First meeting people, you kind of I like to just
sit back and observe sometimes, but when you really get
to know me, I can be.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
A really fun, little weirdo.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
So I feel like when I'm on stage it's kind
of my time to channel like who I really am, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Which I think is natural of every musician in the world.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Help So like, you know, but as someone who's interviewed
it fucking everyone musicians kind of like, you know, that's
their Most musicians are introverts. You mentioned being at Muhammad
Alist party and talking with Chris, who was a friend
for a long time and love that dude so much,
and he always said the most interesting thing to me
(40:54):
was that, like, musicians never come from the cool. It's
there always the outcasts, and that's it's all turned out
to be true, even if you're like attractive, Like I
remember writing interviewing not long ago, Maggie Lindemann right has
like twenty million followers, one of the most beautiful women
of the world, all of this, you know, So that's
(41:16):
just she still remembers being traumatized by not being invited
to her best friend's birthday at seven. Like as a musician,
you feel thing so different deeply, you never get over them.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Yeah, that's that's a really good point, you know, the underdog,
the outcast. It's like you could still be totally popular
as well and still feel so alone in so many ways.
So I feel that I feel that on a real
deep level for sure.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
So were you the outcast too?
Speaker 4 (41:48):
I mean I was a complete social butterfly and I had.
I would make friends in every single group, even the
ones that other people would make fun of, you know,
So that was who I was because I I saw
the reflections of these people that were getting picked on
or whatnot. I would always stick up and stand up
(42:08):
to the bullies. And I got bullied too, like so
much so even and it's hilarious, but even for my voice,
you know, like I would get told I, you know,
had that raspy like kind of a boyish voice, and
I was like, well, shit, now I get to get
paid for it on a Netflix animated series.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Epis for families that screw up.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
So but yes, I feel like I've I could be
in room full of a lot of people and still
feel alone at times or just not completely seen. And
you know, there's layers. There's just so many layers to people,
and you could look and judge a book by its cover,
but that doesn't mean anything. You know, people are people
(42:49):
are really, they just have a lot of layers to them.
And I don't think everybody realizes that.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
I'm gonna wrap up on some fun. We'll wrap up
on a fund out and then we'll wrap up on
the song.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
But you know you mentioned the mahamadalithing for you, what
was the best, most memorable, most entertaining party you've been to?
Because I was thinking about this, there's always so many
crazy La nights, even know Muhamma, all these.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Birthday parties always in Arizona, So it wasn't in La.
I knew that that.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Yeah, that one was in Vegas and uh, honest to god,
I mean that was insane.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
I hung out.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
So another cool part of that was Quincy Jones walked
right past his own green room and he just sat
by me in mind. And there was a woman like
one of the pas that came in and she's like, Hayley,
I want to get you out front, but there's so
many donors that are like, you know, really like putting
so much into this event, Like would you mind if
I got you out in one of the front tables
(44:00):
just to watch because I just wanted the experience to
watch out front?
Speaker 3 (44:03):
Do you mind if I get you out there later?
And I felt so sad for a moment.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
And then I looked to my left and I'm like,
I'm chilling here with Quincy Jones, who's telling me stories
about him and Frank Sinatra drinking in asana at three
am in Chicago. I'm just like, what do I have
to be sad about?
Speaker 4 (44:22):
This was like an experience of a lifetime and him
and I are watching you know, the playback on a
little screen in our green room together.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
But we spent we spent over five hours hanging out.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
And then got to just be a part of a
pretty much a conga line of absolute legends and go
out there and sing with Stevie Wonder, sing to Muhammad Ali.
And I'll never that's the kind of the point I
will also always go back to in my mind because
I'm on stage with I mean, probably up to fifty
people that are absolute legends, and I think the only
(45:00):
women were me and and is it Kelly Roland.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
And I'm just like astounded.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
That I'm able to be a part of this and
I was so young, like twenty one, and also that
like I'm being received so well.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
And everybody is so kind. So I get to look
at my heroes and know that's that.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Much of them, if not every single one of them
in that arena, and that then you were so cool,
kind and present, and I was just like.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Okay, this is this is amazing. I will cherish this forever.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Very cool, and so you know, we talked about not
doing promise at the wedding. For you, what's interesting I've
talked about this is so many people right when you
put a song out, it's no longer yours. The world
takes it. It becomes there. Like Shnia's Wain was telling
me that you're still the one, you know, And it's
interesting because that was a song she wrote for her
husband who then cheated on her, so and it becomes
(46:02):
a huge fucking hit. And she was telling me that
the way she was able to adapt and continue it
on was singing about other people.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Getting married to it and stuff.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
So for you, what it is like the dream for
a promise, you know, like the sort of like, you know,
what were the stories that would be most meaningful to
you from other people for the song?
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Right, It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
It's been out for just a few weeks now and
I'm already having people reaching out saying like, this is
gonna be my wedding song.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
So that's a huge honor alone. That was part of
my hope for the song. And I really did want
to hone in on specifically on the love for.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Our pet babies. Because that to me, like there's not
enough love even shown. And maybe people even write songs
about their dogs and their pets, but it's not always
like full blown exposed and talked about being that until
you hear like the back back, backstory, like years down
the line. So yeah, I mean again, I think this
(47:07):
should really connect to people all facets of love, and
if it can be the next big wedding song, I
am here for it. If it can be you know,
the song that they play when they're like just cuddling
with their their favorite pet, and I just I wanted
to make people feel just Butterfly is full of love.
(47:29):
So I feel like we I nailed that, thankfully with
Can't Help Falling in Love, and it blew up to
be something way more than I ever expected. So hopefully, yeah,
hopefully I can get another sync with it like I
did with Extra Gum, and hopefully it can go organically
to radio again, and then it can just connect with
people and make them feel like, you know, this song
(47:51):
is they're what they're feeling inside, you know, the kind
of devotion that they feel for their loved ones and
their pets
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