September 15, 2026 • 21 mins
Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet have been dealing with a lot of changes lately, and now, just two days after starting a new school, in a new country, they’ve had to make another major change: another new school. According to the Sussex’s spokesperson, the distance and traffic between home and school have proven to be too difficult and caused enough security concerns that they have switched the children’s school. This comes as the UK announced both the Duke and Dutchess will “imminently receive” an official risk re-assessment to determine whether tax funded security will be extended to them.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey there, folks. It's Tuesday, September 15th, and Harry and
Meghan just can't catch a break. Now it's their kids
that can't even catch a break. They just had their
first day of school. It was also their last day
at that school. And with that, welcome to this episode
of Amy and TJ. How many actual days were separated
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the first day of school for the little prince and princess?
And their last day at that school, it was a
matter of what? Two days. Two days.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
They had two days at their new school. Think about
these poor little kids. I'm serious. I know they're poor
little prince and princess, but it is a very traumatic
thing to do a big move to a different country,
all new people. They sound different. They look different. You're
told you're related to them. And you get to your
new school. And you're like, okay, I'm going to get
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settled here. Kindergarten, what would it be? Kindergarten and second grade?
I don't know how they do it in the UK,
but that seems like that would be their ages. And yes,
and so you're excited. You're meeting your new classmates, your
new teachers, and all of a sudden, whammo, got to
go to a new school again. What?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Every parent can relate to this. It doesn't matter. When you...
When you have to move towns, you're so upset about
what that does to your kid and their friend circle.
And then they have to start a new school and
what that does to be the new kid somewhere, whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I do. This one kind of breaks my heart for
the kids.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It is so sad. Look, I had to do, it
was the middle of sixth grade. I went from St.
Louis to Atlanta. That was a culture shock for me
right there. And I still to this day remember, I mean,
I spent two weeks of just feeling sick and scared
and it just, It's a big deal for a kid
to have to switch around like that and to have
to adjust after just two days. And when you hear
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the reason why, it's kind of baffling. So this is
coming from their camp. But apparently the distance between where
they're living and where this school is, they thought it
was going to be about a 45-minute, I guess, distance
or something with heavy traffic. But they say that they
were staying in too much distance stagnant traffic which created
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too big of a threat for the kids the convoys
weren't able to stick together or the convoy couldn't stick
together and so they had to abort because just the
logistics of where the house is and where the school
was did not jibe with their security team okay how
did they not plan that out better.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
That seems really odd babe that a security detail wouldn't
do that again don't want to criticize and we don't
know what the circumstances are but roll just one of
the first things security details do getting from point a
to point b what is the route we're going to
take what are the traffic patterns i just don't know
robes a lot of planning has been going into them
being at this school how you're going to get there
every day and how you're going to get home it's
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thing one once they're in school should be fine What, Robes,
how was this missed that this is so disruptive? We
have to pull you out of school because we didn't
know the traffic pattern?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I know, that seems crazy. Look, I will say, when
school started back here in New York City last week,
I forgot it was the first day of school. And
what it usually takes me to get to my hair
appointment was doubled all of a sudden and I had
to get out of the Uber and I'm like running
to the appointment thinking about getting on a city bike
because I didn't account for how much more time it
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takes when school's in session. I'm wondering if the security
team was doing some of these runs.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Stop.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
In the summer before school started, and they didn't realize
how much worse it was going to be when school
came back. Traffic doubles sometimes. Traffic time doubles when school's
in session.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
You really think that's it?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
If they need to get a whole new security team,
but that would make sense. Ruh-roh, we didn't realize it
was going to take this long.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Is there anything out there you've seen people questioning that
maybe this ain't actually it? That's not really the thing?
That's the issue? Because this seems like.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
The only conspiracy theory out there is that right at
the time, and we'll get into this, Harry and Meghan's
security detail is now being, or their ability to have
any sort of government protection is being reconsidered for the
first time since 2020. All of a sudden, they have
a security concern now. With their kids getting to school.
But I hardly believe that any parent would use their
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kid as a pawn to try and get what they
want and have them get thrown into a school, pulled
out of a school, have to go to a new school,
all to get public funded security. But that is one
of the operating conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Okay. I thought it was going to be more far-fetched
than that because I realized, yes, they are up for review.
Do they ask for it or they just kind of
qualify this group over that it takes care of public figures?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
It seems as though they qualify for it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
They qualify for it.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Coming from the Sussexes, coming from Prince Harry and Meghan,
that they were a little surprised at the king's warning,
specifically calling them a private citizen versus a public figure.
And that is part of the determination as to whether
or not you're even qualified or considered a to be
a part of this taxpayer-funded security detail.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Okay, but you have to be deemed, you have to
be classified a public figure. They can be private citizens,
and they will always be public figures just by the
level of their fame.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And that's part of the argument.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
But the truth is, you are private citizens.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yes, but he made a point to call them private citizens,
and so that was a little bit of the rub,
I guess, because they're trying to get the public figure status.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
This royal stuff is fascinating.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Isn't it crazy? Let's read the official statement coming from
the Duke and Duchess regarding their children's abrupt school change.
The decision for the children to move school was taken
following a discussion with the family security team about the
practicalities of their current arrangements. The parents remain extremely grateful
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to all the teachers and staff for the love, care,
and effort they have shown their families. This decision should
in no way be interpreted as a reflection on the
school or the exceptional care the children have received there.
But it's just such a British way to put it.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
You're about to go to practicalities again.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
The practicalities of their current arrangement. Yeah, we didn't do
our due diligence to figure out what it would be
like to drive the kids to and from school.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
That's odd. It's just an odd thing to overlook. It's
the first thing you have to do, baby. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It seems wild. Yes, we were discussing earlier, we literally
have been sitting down with Sabine and looking at all
of her high school options. And part of that entails,
how are you getting there? How are you getting back?
How long is it going to take? What are your options? Obviously,
Ubers are too expensive. Can you get on the subway?
Does this make sense?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Well, you even brought up, it gets cold. It's going
to be rainy. You're going to take that 45-minute train ride,
even in the snow. You're All these things. We were
doing this literally yesterday. And to hear that you have
a whole security detail that missed the most basic of things,
how you get to and from school, it just, that
part lends itself. I will listen to a conspiracy theory.
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It just seems odd that you would miss that. The
most basic thing.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, I feel like the whole security team should be
fired at this point then.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
We don't want to get on to them.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
But if they drop the ball on that basic and
now your kids are having to now mentally and emotionally
readjust within days, I would be pretty pissed off.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Damn, I would be too.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I would be very pissed off. But look, this all comes, yes,
as Megan has now been granted a government-backed security review
for the first time. Since she quit royal duties, Harry's
review began back in July, so there's still no decision
on him, but now Meghan's been added to it, and
that's a very big deal.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Ooh, this is going to be taxpayer money.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yes, so we've been told the Duke and Duchess will
both imminently receive... An official risk assessment. And this is
all the British newspapers and media outlets are reporting on this.
This is a big deal. It's the Royal and VIP
Executive Committee. It's called RAVEC. I don't know how they
pronounce that acronym. But this oversees, this group oversees the
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tax-funded security for royalty and... And for public figures. So
right now they're saying Harry and Meghan are giving this
Royal and VIP Executive Committee details on their new daily routine,
their school run, the addresses they routinely visit, the routes
they take, and now the Home Office is going to
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be evaluating their level of threat.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So for possibly giving them taxpayer-funded security?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
How is that going to read in British newspapers, that
we have to pay for these two?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yes, we shall see, because... Little history here. It was
February of 2020 when they decided to leave their official
royal duties that they ruled that Harry was no longer
going to be given the same degree of protection when
he came back to the UK. He challenged that and
lost in 2024. He went to court. He lost in 2024.
And then he also lost in 2023 because he offered
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to privately pay Harry police for protection of him and
his family. And they denied him that as well, because
they say, we can't have wealthy people paying police officers
for their personal security. So he even said, okay, fine.
(09:35):
I won't ask the taxpayers to pay it. I'll pay it.
And they still said no. So we'll see if there'll be,
maybe there'll be some wiggle room there where they'll allow
him to privately fund it, but have access to government security.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
He needs it. Because his current security doesn't even know
how to do a Google map. Exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Apparently, they don't understand that traffic patterns change when kids
go back to school.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Okay, well, I need to stop because we seem like
we have no idea. Because it seems like we're being
critical of this security team. We don't know anything. If
they are the ones, Robes, it seems something odd. What
else could it be? But is it their responsibility? Is
this on them? Is it that simple?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It would be their one responsibility.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
What I'm saying was something else missed. Did someone else,
were they told, yep, we're going to do this no
matter what? Did they give a warning that, hey, this
might be a problem? And then after a couple of days,
I don't know. I just don't want to completely dump
on the security team.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
It was described that they were sitting in too much
traffic and that that was just, they said they were
described as sitting ducks. And that was the concern, that
they just felt like they can't be not moving. I mean,
you think about a presidential convoy, anyone who's got some
big official convoy, even, yes, the royals, they stop traffic
and they keep moving because you don't want to be
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stopped for an extended period of time.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I think there's a reason, but I think people know
that now. The president, that level, folks, the president comes
to the United States, his car, once it leaves the airport,
does not stop moving at any point.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
This entire city. They plant New York City police officers
at every single intersection where there's a light. That car
doesn't move. I understand that perfectly. The King's car never moves.
You got to stay moving. Now, Robes, if you got.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Oh, remember when we got to see him and we
got to wave at him? I know. And he waved back.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
It was a big moment for us.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
He absolutely waved back.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
It wasn't at me. I assure you. But, Robes, yes.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
What.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I'm trying to think of can these kids ever be
treated like normal kids?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
No, of course they can't, especially when everyone wants to
see their face.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Here's my question, babe. Give me an example of some
royal or the kids of a president or something that
go about their lives in a normal way, meaning they
go to a baseball game, they go take a drive,
they go to a Starbucks. Will these kids ever be
able to walk around normally if you can't even go
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to school? and be in line with the rest of
your classmates? Can you line up outside? Like, how different
of a life are they living, Robes? That convoy can
be long, right? Not the convoy, the line for drop-off.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Everybody's been in those before.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You get backed up.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Can they ever do that? How big is their convoy?
How many vehicles are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I don't know, but there's people who are having a
blast with it on X. showing like oh god this
is how megan wants her kids to go to.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
School every day and it's like.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Police and flashing lights and like a 12 cars coming
down like dramatic as always yes so people are having
a blast with it but when we come back we'll
tell you about another social media post i thought megan
might lay low she went the opposite route she posted
again but for a good.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Reason we'll explain when we come back Welcome back to
Amy and TJ. Yes, Megan and Harry. We knew they
would probably be in the headlines quite a bit now
that they've moved back to the UK, but they have
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been in the headlines even more than we thought and
for all the wrong reasons. Now they've got a problem
with security, getting their kids to school. Apparently, they've enrolled
them now in another school. British media have been reporting
that they found another school. They're getting settled in. Everything's
much better, yada, yada, yada. But guess what? Today is... Tuesday,
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September 15th, it is Prince Harry's 42nd birthday. Happy birthday.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Happy birthday. It's good to be back home. What a
big party at the castle.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure there's going to be a
big party tonight with King Charles, Camilla, his brother William, Kate.
They're all, I'm sure, no, that's not being reported at all.
But wouldn't that be nice? What if they had a
surprise party for him at Buckingham Palace? And Meghan was
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going to get him there and the whole thing was
being orchestrated.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Okay, that would be awesome. She had to coordinate the
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
He's like the prodigal son. He returns home.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
That would be great.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I know. So, well, he might not be getting a
Buckingham surprise party, but he did get an Instagram post
from his lovely wife, Megan, following all of the negative
comments from her last post showing their idyllic life in
the English countryside where people just roasted her for. She
put up a post the following day. Happy birthday, Harry.
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She said, he's simply the best and simply the best
was playing. But another version I wasn't aware of. Happy birthday,
my love. And then it just showed a bunch of
pics of him with Archie and Lilibet. Their faces, of course, blocked,
masked in many ways. There's a really, really, really, really,
really cute one of Harry kissing Lilibet. It's actually adorable.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Can't see her face.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Of course you can't see her face. But it's notable.
There's only one quick shot of the back of Archie
where I think they're actually doing archery, I believe is
what I saw.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Archer doing archery. Yes. Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
But this was one of my favorite reacts because, look,
people were general. Most people were saying this is sweet. Look,
posting for someone's birthday is not something you're going to
take shots at normally, but someone still found a way
to take a shot at what Meghan posted. I forgot
it was Harry's birthday, but I also couldn't care less.
Meghan Markle posted a photo montage of private citizen Harry
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and private citizen Lily with private second-class citizen Archie afterthought. Oh,
my God. Kind of slapped in there. Most of the
photos feature Markle, Harry, and Lily. It is true. Archie
only got one quick shot. So they still found a
way to criticize. I'm just saying she can't do anything right.
Even in a post where she's celebrating... her husband, and
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showing sweet photos of him with his children, people still
found a way to take a shot.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Anything else you got in there? Anything fun?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
That was my favorite one that I found.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I'm over here laughing at all the convoy things you
talked about.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yes, you see it, right?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Okay, sometimes the internet can be funny. X had a
field day. These aren't mean. That's like a whole helicopter's
coming in.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Oh yeah, they said Harry can take his helicopter's license,
put it back to use, and fly the kids. I
saw that one.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Is it true, though, that the future Williams kids, there
are a bunch of pictures of Kate driving the kids
to school and just hopping out and walking them up
the street?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, because look, they get the protection they need, but
she is a public figure. The kids' faces, they're not.
You know what? I wonder if Harry and Meghan look
at them and say, wow. That's actually the way to go.
You're public. The whole point of her hiding her kids'
faces and hiding them, it just generates more fascination, more curiosity.
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People question the motive. If you just show them, they're
public figures. You can't be public figures and demand privacy.
If you want the security for being a public figure
but demand to shield your children, it's just, again, they
want to be half in, half out. They want to
have it both ways. Look at what, yes, Kate going
with the kids. Take your pictures. Kids smile. Walk into class.
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Everyone got their shots. Great.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
It's normal now and not a big deal. You're not
being chased and pursued.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It takes away the desire to get a shot or
to have a chase because we're here. Take your pictures. Yes,
we are the royal family. Have a good day.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
They can't do anything right. Even the birthday post. I
don't know, babe.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I just I feel I do, babe. I don't know.
It's just a shame.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
They're learning the hard way. I feel like each and every.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Step of the way. They've been learning for six years
about the missteps. And again, she has the right. They
have the right to do what they want to do.
And they do have the right to be private citizens, babe.
Private citizens who want to be really famous.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Or be also considered... public figures to get taxpayer-funded security.
I'm just saying, they keep wanting to.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Have things both ways.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That's why people are like, pick, and you're making your choices,
and then you don't like the consequences of your choices.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Okay, you make a good point there. They're actually asking
for taxpayer funding. I don't want to show you my kids,
who are the, where are they in the line? There's Harry, no,
excuse me, there's William, his son.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Daughter, And then Louie.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
And then Harry.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
And then Harry.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
And then Archie.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
And then Archie.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
And then a little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
This is a family. I mean, don't get me wrong, babe.
God forbid. But you're still an heir to the throne.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And you will not allow the public to see your
kid's face. They have the right to do that. There's
safety concerns. His mama died in all this foolishness. Robes,
he understands and feels this in a way that I
never can. So I don't want to take that away
from him. Ugh. From Harry. But man, it's If you
could sit down and just talk to them and say, hey, guys,
what about this? Hey, Megan, let me have your phone.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Just go put up a big old family photo, you
all smiling, faces showing. Take your slow walk to the school,
wave and smile, and just accept.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
But again, that's safety, baby. Again, if you thought your
child's life was being threatened in some way.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
But then the argument is, why are you putting photos
of them dangling carrots the backs of their heads?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
So give me that answer then. Why would you do that?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Because she's trying to repair an image. She's trying to say, see,
we're a happy family. See, our kids are well-adjusted.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But she's always done that, has she not? She's always
shown pictures of the kids, just not their faces.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Right, but.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
So it's not a new thing, is it?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
No, it's not. But she's also, at the same time,
asking for privacy. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Who does this? I always go back to Ryan Gosling
and Eva Mendez. We've never seen their kids, right? I
have no idea.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
They don't show the backs of their heads.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
And she doesn't do the tease thing, right? Does anybody
else do that?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I've seen a couple actually former colleagues of ours put
stars in front. But these are people who are not.
I don't even understand. I'm like, why do you think anyone?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
But people make choices. I've seen people do that. I
haven't seen a major star or celebrity do that.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
What is she giving us as a public? By letting
us see a limited version of her kids. Does she
seem like she's doing a service to us?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
No, it's a service. People make the argument, and I
think it's hard to disagree with. She's trying to promote
the image of her as a mother and Harry as
a father.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
But genuinely, she wants to share that. That can be sincere.
I'm trying to go with that, that genuinely any mom,
any proud dad, they tweet too damn much or they
put too much on Instagram. Is she just doing that?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
But what's the point of doing that if you're hiding faces?
I don't understand either do it or don't. And I
have no problem with doing it. I just don't understand, again,
when you try to have it both ways, you lose everybody.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
This is too bad. These videos are hilarious, though. And
they're not mean-spirited. Some of these are actually quite funny,
like Humvees and tanks rolling up to the school in
some of these images. It's funny.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
All right. More to come, I'm sure. With that, everyone,
we always appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robach
alongside TJ Holmes.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
We'll talk soon.
Hey there, folks. It's Tuesday, September 15th, and Harry and
Meghan just can't catch a break. Now it's their kids
that can't even catch a break. They just had their
first day of school. It was also their last day
at that school. And with that, welcome to this episode
of Amy and TJ. How many actual days were separated
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the first day of school for the little prince and princess?
And their last day at that school, it was a
matter of what? Two days. Two days.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
They had two days at their new school. Think about
these poor little kids. I'm serious. I know they're poor
little prince and princess, but it is a very traumatic
thing to do a big move to a different country,
all new people. They sound different. They look different. You're
told you're related to them. And you get to your
new school. And you're like, okay, I'm going to get
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settled here. Kindergarten, what would it be? Kindergarten and second grade?
I don't know how they do it in the UK,
but that seems like that would be their ages. And yes,
and so you're excited. You're meeting your new classmates, your
new teachers, and all of a sudden, whammo, got to
go to a new school again. What?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Every parent can relate to this. It doesn't matter. When you...
When you have to move towns, you're so upset about
what that does to your kid and their friend circle.
And then they have to start a new school and
what that does to be the new kid somewhere, whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I do. This one kind of breaks my heart for
the kids.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It is so sad. Look, I had to do, it
was the middle of sixth grade. I went from St.
Louis to Atlanta. That was a culture shock for me
right there. And I still to this day remember, I mean,
I spent two weeks of just feeling sick and scared
and it just, It's a big deal for a kid
to have to switch around like that and to have
to adjust after just two days. And when you hear
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the reason why, it's kind of baffling. So this is
coming from their camp. But apparently the distance between where
they're living and where this school is, they thought it
was going to be about a 45-minute, I guess, distance
or something with heavy traffic. But they say that they
were staying in too much distance stagnant traffic which created
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too big of a threat for the kids the convoys
weren't able to stick together or the convoy couldn't stick
together and so they had to abort because just the
logistics of where the house is and where the school
was did not jibe with their security team okay how
did they not plan that out better.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
That seems really odd babe that a security detail wouldn't
do that again don't want to criticize and we don't
know what the circumstances are but roll just one of
the first things security details do getting from point a
to point b what is the route we're going to
take what are the traffic patterns i just don't know
robes a lot of planning has been going into them
being at this school how you're going to get there
every day and how you're going to get home it's
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thing one once they're in school should be fine What, Robes,
how was this missed that this is so disruptive? We
have to pull you out of school because we didn't
know the traffic pattern?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I know, that seems crazy. Look, I will say, when
school started back here in New York City last week,
I forgot it was the first day of school. And
what it usually takes me to get to my hair
appointment was doubled all of a sudden and I had
to get out of the Uber and I'm like running
to the appointment thinking about getting on a city bike
because I didn't account for how much more time it
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takes when school's in session. I'm wondering if the security
team was doing some of these runs.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Stop.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
In the summer before school started, and they didn't realize
how much worse it was going to be when school
came back. Traffic doubles sometimes. Traffic time doubles when school's
in session.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
You really think that's it?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
If they need to get a whole new security team,
but that would make sense. Ruh-roh, we didn't realize it
was going to take this long.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Is there anything out there you've seen people questioning that
maybe this ain't actually it? That's not really the thing?
That's the issue? Because this seems like.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
The only conspiracy theory out there is that right at
the time, and we'll get into this, Harry and Meghan's
security detail is now being, or their ability to have
any sort of government protection is being reconsidered for the
first time since 2020. All of a sudden, they have
a security concern now. With their kids getting to school.
But I hardly believe that any parent would use their
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kid as a pawn to try and get what they
want and have them get thrown into a school, pulled
out of a school, have to go to a new school,
all to get public funded security. But that is one
of the operating conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Okay. I thought it was going to be more far-fetched
than that because I realized, yes, they are up for review.
Do they ask for it or they just kind of
qualify this group over that it takes care of public figures?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
It seems as though they qualify for it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
They qualify for it.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Coming from the Sussexes, coming from Prince Harry and Meghan,
that they were a little surprised at the king's warning,
specifically calling them a private citizen versus a public figure.
And that is part of the determination as to whether
or not you're even qualified or considered a to be
a part of this taxpayer-funded security detail.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Okay, but you have to be deemed, you have to
be classified a public figure. They can be private citizens,
and they will always be public figures just by the
level of their fame.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And that's part of the argument.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
But the truth is, you are private citizens.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yes, but he made a point to call them private citizens,
and so that was a little bit of the rub,
I guess, because they're trying to get the public figure status.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
This royal stuff is fascinating.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Isn't it crazy? Let's read the official statement coming from
the Duke and Duchess regarding their children's abrupt school change.
The decision for the children to move school was taken
following a discussion with the family security team about the
practicalities of their current arrangements. The parents remain extremely grateful
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to all the teachers and staff for the love, care,
and effort they have shown their families. This decision should
in no way be interpreted as a reflection on the
school or the exceptional care the children have received there.
But it's just such a British way to put it.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
You're about to go to practicalities again.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
The practicalities of their current arrangement. Yeah, we didn't do
our due diligence to figure out what it would be
like to drive the kids to and from school.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
That's odd. It's just an odd thing to overlook. It's
the first thing you have to do, baby. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It seems wild. Yes, we were discussing earlier, we literally
have been sitting down with Sabine and looking at all
of her high school options. And part of that entails,
how are you getting there? How are you getting back?
How long is it going to take? What are your options? Obviously,
Ubers are too expensive. Can you get on the subway?
Does this make sense?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Well, you even brought up, it gets cold. It's going
to be rainy. You're going to take that 45-minute train ride,
even in the snow. You're All these things. We were
doing this literally yesterday. And to hear that you have
a whole security detail that missed the most basic of things,
how you get to and from school, it just, that
part lends itself. I will listen to a conspiracy theory.
(07:16):
It just seems odd that you would miss that. The
most basic thing.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, I feel like the whole security team should be
fired at this point then.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
We don't want to get on to them.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
But if they drop the ball on that basic and
now your kids are having to now mentally and emotionally
readjust within days, I would be pretty pissed off.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Damn, I would be too.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I would be very pissed off. But look, this all comes, yes,
as Megan has now been granted a government-backed security review
for the first time. Since she quit royal duties, Harry's
review began back in July, so there's still no decision
on him, but now Meghan's been added to it, and
that's a very big deal.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Ooh, this is going to be taxpayer money.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yes, so we've been told the Duke and Duchess will
both imminently receive... An official risk assessment. And this is
all the British newspapers and media outlets are reporting on this.
This is a big deal. It's the Royal and VIP
Executive Committee. It's called RAVEC. I don't know how they
pronounce that acronym. But this oversees, this group oversees the
(08:21):
tax-funded security for royalty and... And for public figures. So
right now they're saying Harry and Meghan are giving this
Royal and VIP Executive Committee details on their new daily routine,
their school run, the addresses they routinely visit, the routes
they take, and now the Home Office is going to
(08:41):
be evaluating their level of threat.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So for possibly giving them taxpayer-funded security?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
How is that going to read in British newspapers, that
we have to pay for these two?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yes, we shall see, because... Little history here. It was
February of 2020 when they decided to leave their official
royal duties that they ruled that Harry was no longer
going to be given the same degree of protection when
he came back to the UK. He challenged that and
lost in 2024. He went to court. He lost in 2024.
And then he also lost in 2023 because he offered
(09:14):
to privately pay Harry police for protection of him and
his family. And they denied him that as well, because
they say, we can't have wealthy people paying police officers
for their personal security. So he even said, okay, fine.
(09:35):
I won't ask the taxpayers to pay it. I'll pay it.
And they still said no. So we'll see if there'll be,
maybe there'll be some wiggle room there where they'll allow
him to privately fund it, but have access to government security.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
He needs it. Because his current security doesn't even know
how to do a Google map. Exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Apparently, they don't understand that traffic patterns change when kids
go back to school.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Okay, well, I need to stop because we seem like
we have no idea. Because it seems like we're being
critical of this security team. We don't know anything. If
they are the ones, Robes, it seems something odd. What
else could it be? But is it their responsibility? Is
this on them? Is it that simple?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It would be their one responsibility.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
What I'm saying was something else missed. Did someone else,
were they told, yep, we're going to do this no
matter what? Did they give a warning that, hey, this
might be a problem? And then after a couple of days,
I don't know. I just don't want to completely dump
on the security team.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
It was described that they were sitting in too much
traffic and that that was just, they said they were
described as sitting ducks. And that was the concern, that
they just felt like they can't be not moving. I mean,
you think about a presidential convoy, anyone who's got some
big official convoy, even, yes, the royals, they stop traffic
and they keep moving because you don't want to be
(10:52):
stopped for an extended period of time.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I think there's a reason, but I think people know
that now. The president, that level, folks, the president comes
to the United States, his car, once it leaves the airport,
does not stop moving at any point.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
This entire city. They plant New York City police officers
at every single intersection where there's a light. That car
doesn't move. I understand that perfectly. The King's car never moves.
You got to stay moving. Now, Robes, if you got.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Oh, remember when we got to see him and we
got to wave at him? I know. And he waved back.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
It was a big moment for us.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
He absolutely waved back.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
It wasn't at me. I assure you. But, Robes, yes.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
What.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I'm trying to think of can these kids ever be
treated like normal kids?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
No, of course they can't, especially when everyone wants to
see their face.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Here's my question, babe. Give me an example of some
royal or the kids of a president or something that
go about their lives in a normal way, meaning they
go to a baseball game, they go take a drive,
they go to a Starbucks. Will these kids ever be
able to walk around normally if you can't even go
(12:03):
to school? and be in line with the rest of
your classmates? Can you line up outside? Like, how different
of a life are they living, Robes? That convoy can
be long, right? Not the convoy, the line for drop-off.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Everybody's been in those before.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You get backed up.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Can they ever do that? How big is their convoy?
How many vehicles are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I don't know, but there's people who are having a
blast with it on X. showing like oh god this
is how megan wants her kids to go to.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
School every day and it's like.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Police and flashing lights and like a 12 cars coming
down like dramatic as always yes so people are having
a blast with it but when we come back we'll
tell you about another social media post i thought megan
might lay low she went the opposite route she posted
again but for a good.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Reason we'll explain when we come back Welcome back to
Amy and TJ. Yes, Megan and Harry. We knew they
would probably be in the headlines quite a bit now
that they've moved back to the UK, but they have
(13:12):
been in the headlines even more than we thought and
for all the wrong reasons. Now they've got a problem
with security, getting their kids to school. Apparently, they've enrolled
them now in another school. British media have been reporting
that they found another school. They're getting settled in. Everything's
much better, yada, yada, yada. But guess what? Today is... Tuesday,
(13:33):
September 15th, it is Prince Harry's 42nd birthday. Happy birthday.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Happy birthday. It's good to be back home. What a
big party at the castle.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure there's going to be a
big party tonight with King Charles, Camilla, his brother William, Kate.
They're all, I'm sure, no, that's not being reported at all.
But wouldn't that be nice? What if they had a
surprise party for him at Buckingham Palace? And Meghan was
(14:03):
going to get him there and the whole thing was
being orchestrated.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Okay, that would be awesome. She had to coordinate the
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
He's like the prodigal son. He returns home.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
That would be great.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I know. So, well, he might not be getting a
Buckingham surprise party, but he did get an Instagram post
from his lovely wife, Megan, following all of the negative
comments from her last post showing their idyllic life in
the English countryside where people just roasted her for. She
put up a post the following day. Happy birthday, Harry.
(14:36):
She said, he's simply the best and simply the best
was playing. But another version I wasn't aware of. Happy birthday,
my love. And then it just showed a bunch of
pics of him with Archie and Lilibet. Their faces, of course, blocked,
masked in many ways. There's a really, really, really, really,
really cute one of Harry kissing Lilibet. It's actually adorable.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Can't see her face.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Of course you can't see her face. But it's notable.
There's only one quick shot of the back of Archie
where I think they're actually doing archery, I believe is
what I saw.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Archer doing archery. Yes. Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
But this was one of my favorite reacts because, look,
people were general. Most people were saying this is sweet. Look,
posting for someone's birthday is not something you're going to
take shots at normally, but someone still found a way
to take a shot at what Meghan posted. I forgot
it was Harry's birthday, but I also couldn't care less.
Meghan Markle posted a photo montage of private citizen Harry
(15:34):
and private citizen Lily with private second-class citizen Archie afterthought. Oh,
my God. Kind of slapped in there. Most of the
photos feature Markle, Harry, and Lily. It is true. Archie
only got one quick shot. So they still found a
way to criticize. I'm just saying she can't do anything right.
Even in a post where she's celebrating... her husband, and
(15:55):
showing sweet photos of him with his children, people still
found a way to take a shot.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Anything else you got in there? Anything fun?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
That was my favorite one that I found.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I'm over here laughing at all the convoy things you
talked about.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yes, you see it, right?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Okay, sometimes the internet can be funny. X had a
field day. These aren't mean. That's like a whole helicopter's
coming in.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Oh yeah, they said Harry can take his helicopter's license,
put it back to use, and fly the kids. I
saw that one.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Is it true, though, that the future Williams kids, there
are a bunch of pictures of Kate driving the kids
to school and just hopping out and walking them up
the street?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, because look, they get the protection they need, but
she is a public figure. The kids' faces, they're not.
You know what? I wonder if Harry and Meghan look
at them and say, wow. That's actually the way to go.
You're public. The whole point of her hiding her kids'
faces and hiding them, it just generates more fascination, more curiosity.
(16:56):
People question the motive. If you just show them, they're
public figures. You can't be public figures and demand privacy.
If you want the security for being a public figure
but demand to shield your children, it's just, again, they
want to be half in, half out. They want to
have it both ways. Look at what, yes, Kate going
with the kids. Take your pictures. Kids smile. Walk into class.
(17:20):
Everyone got their shots. Great.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
It's normal now and not a big deal. You're not
being chased and pursued.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It takes away the desire to get a shot or
to have a chase because we're here. Take your pictures. Yes,
we are the royal family. Have a good day.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
They can't do anything right. Even the birthday post. I
don't know, babe.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I just I feel I do, babe. I don't know.
It's just a shame.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
They're learning the hard way. I feel like each and every.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Step of the way. They've been learning for six years
about the missteps. And again, she has the right. They
have the right to do what they want to do.
And they do have the right to be private citizens, babe.
Private citizens who want to be really famous.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Or be also considered... public figures to get taxpayer-funded security.
I'm just saying, they keep wanting to.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Have things both ways.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That's why people are like, pick, and you're making your choices,
and then you don't like the consequences of your choices.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Okay, you make a good point there. They're actually asking
for taxpayer funding. I don't want to show you my kids,
who are the, where are they in the line? There's Harry, no,
excuse me, there's William, his son.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Daughter, And then Louie.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
And then Harry.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
And then Harry.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
And then Archie.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
And then Archie.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
And then a little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
This is a family. I mean, don't get me wrong, babe.
God forbid. But you're still an heir to the throne.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And you will not allow the public to see your
kid's face. They have the right to do that. There's
safety concerns. His mama died in all this foolishness. Robes,
he understands and feels this in a way that I
never can. So I don't want to take that away
from him. Ugh. From Harry. But man, it's If you
could sit down and just talk to them and say, hey, guys,
what about this? Hey, Megan, let me have your phone.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Just go put up a big old family photo, you
all smiling, faces showing. Take your slow walk to the school,
wave and smile, and just accept.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
But again, that's safety, baby. Again, if you thought your
child's life was being threatened in some way.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
But then the argument is, why are you putting photos
of them dangling carrots the backs of their heads?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
So give me that answer then. Why would you do that?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Because she's trying to repair an image. She's trying to say, see,
we're a happy family. See, our kids are well-adjusted.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But she's always done that, has she not? She's always
shown pictures of the kids, just not their faces.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Right, but.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
So it's not a new thing, is it?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
No, it's not. But she's also, at the same time,
asking for privacy. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Who does this? I always go back to Ryan Gosling
and Eva Mendez. We've never seen their kids, right? I
have no idea.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
They don't show the backs of their heads.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
And she doesn't do the tease thing, right? Does anybody
else do that?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I've seen a couple actually former colleagues of ours put
stars in front. But these are people who are not.
I don't even understand. I'm like, why do you think anyone?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
But people make choices. I've seen people do that. I
haven't seen a major star or celebrity do that.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
What is she giving us as a public? By letting
us see a limited version of her kids. Does she
seem like she's doing a service to us?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
No, it's a service. People make the argument, and I
think it's hard to disagree with. She's trying to promote
the image of her as a mother and Harry as
a father.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
But genuinely, she wants to share that. That can be sincere.
I'm trying to go with that, that genuinely any mom,
any proud dad, they tweet too damn much or they
put too much on Instagram. Is she just doing that?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
But what's the point of doing that if you're hiding faces?
I don't understand either do it or don't. And I
have no problem with doing it. I just don't understand, again,
when you try to have it both ways, you lose everybody.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
This is too bad. These videos are hilarious, though. And
they're not mean-spirited. Some of these are actually quite funny,
like Humvees and tanks rolling up to the school in
some of these images. It's funny.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
All right. More to come, I'm sure. With that, everyone,
we always appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robach
alongside TJ Holmes.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
We'll talk soon.
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