"Future's Brother FBG Casino CAUGHT With 21KG Fentanyl + Industry EMERGENCY MEETING"

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I know that they allow things to go on so
they can get that intel up. Everybody that I know
that went to the fis not the people that caught
three folk cases and then they just batted you up
and the fizz picked you up. I'm talking about the
people that I know that the federal government investigated and
wanted to bring them to justice for quote unquote crimes.

(00:22):
They always come when the mother lord is there. This
is if when why future? They're just handle a million dollars.
Some ain't taking no billion dollars from their partner and
they done seen him sweat like this here Ford blood
sweat and tears travel every and it just be yall
just looking for daddies to be ready to get up

(00:43):
under spend all the money.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
He don't work for.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Something is saying, hey, Homer, that's your money. I'm gonna
get man off the concrete. You my partner, I'm supporting,
I'm around you. We ball and we living. But I
don't want no money. Can't hand me no million dollars.
Just on some he goes some money. He y'are welcome

(01:08):
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vibes are. Got a lot to talk about today. Of course,
with us doing the weekly show now, I want to
come in and touch base with y'all about a few things.

(01:28):
While we were about to put the episode out, we
just got breaking, dudes that Casino, Free Bands Casino has
been arrested by the federal government. If you do not
know who Freebands Casino is, that is Future's brother. He
is heavily involved in the Free Band Game record label,
and he's an atl legend. You know what I'm saying.

(01:49):
He's someone that got a lot of respect. And see,
if you really come from where we come from, you
can tell who's still kind of mixing blend, you know
what I'm saying. You can kind of tell who really
still and who doesn't really moved away from it. And
we'll get into that in just a second. Number one,
we want to start this with Free Casino. That's my homeboy,

(02:10):
somebody we talk on Instagram all the time.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
He DM me out of time and so we have.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Somewhat of a cordial back and forth relationship. He knows
what it is I do I bring to the game,
and I know his position in the whole ecosystem as
it pertains the future, and aligne on his contributions to
the entire movement with free bands. And so before we
get into who he is and what he has brought

(02:37):
to the table, I do want to spend a little
bit of time speaking about what they found, some of
what is being spoke about by some of the media counterparts,
and I just want to bring some commentary to it.
The federal government allegens that they found twenty one bricks
twenty one kilograms are fitting off in three hundred and

(02:57):
eighty thousand from Futures Brother Freeband Casino.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Let's take a look at this video. We'll come back
with some commentary.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
As Specialation in Charge Brown alluded to, we're here to
talk about for the Northern District of Georgia.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
The material that's in front of me here today.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
This all comes from an operation that occurred last Friday
in Forest Park, Georgia, where FBI and DEA agents assigned
to the HSTF arrested two men, Rico Deville biss Aka
Casino and David Estevan Monteo Diez. Defendant Bis was caught
fleeing from an Airbnb rental where agents were executing a

(03:42):
federal search warrant. Biss was carrying a rubber banded stack
of cash about approximately four thousand dollars, but a lot
more banded cash, approximately three hundred and eighty thousand dollars worth,
was found inside the home, along with approximately twenty one
kilograms of suspected fentanyl, a money counting machine, a vacuum

(04:03):
sealer used to package bricks of illegal narcotics, and the
clock nineteen semi automatic pistol that's on the table because
just two milligrams of fentanyl is a lethal amount, twenty
one kilograms is enough fentanyl to kill millions of people,
and its street value is nearly half a million dollars. Daz,

(04:26):
the second defendant who's charged in this case, is a
southern California resident with no ties to the Northern District
of Georgia. He was inside the Airbnb house when agents arrived.
We believe that Diaz's connection to California is significant because
we know, as mentioned earlier, the Mexican drug cartel's smuggle
fentanyl into our country over the Southwest border. Here, the

(04:50):
work of the HSTF in just a single night, took
millions of deadly doses of fentanyl off the street, denied
the cartels more than eight hundred th thousand dollars worth
of drug proceeds between the cash seized and the value
of the fentanyl seized, and led to the arrest of
the two men, who now face the prospect of life
imprisonment without the possibility of parole. This is just the

(05:13):
latest of many successes of the HSTF here in Atlanta.
Some of you may recall that Special Agent Brown and
I stood here not long ago to announce the hstf's
record breaking seizure of nearly one hundred kilograms of fentanyl,
approximately one hundred and fifty kilograms of methamphetamine, cocaine, heroine,
and marijuana, and dozens of firearms, including a machine gun.

(05:37):
The squad responsible for that seizure back in June is
the same squad that seized these drugs last week, and
in both cases, the fentanyl was stamped with a Louis
Vitan mark to note its high potency. Because the unit
cost of fentanyl is relatively low, drug traffickers and drug

(05:57):
dealers are mixing fentanyl into a large portion of the
illicit drugs that are sold on the street here in
Atlanta or over the internet. More concerning is that fentanyl
is commonly mixed into counterfeit pills that are pressed by
drug traffickers and then sold on the street or on
the internet as legitimate XANX, percocet, adderall, oxycodone, or other

(06:21):
prescription drugs. So the seizure of these twenty one kilograms
of fentanyl should be yet another warning to the public
that fentanyl is being mixed into almost all drugs that
dealers are selling on the street or online. And I
cannot stress this more strongly. If a pill or a powder,
or another substance did not come from a doctor, a pharmacist,

(06:44):
or some other healthcare provider, you should assume that it
contains ventanyl and you should not consume it. The establishment
of the HSTF is paying dividends in and around Atlanta
as directed by the President. Federal law enforcement agencies are
working together as part of a single team. That's the model,

(07:06):
but more importantly, they are supported by state and local partners.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Here.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
For example, the Clayton County Police Department that provide continued
and critical assistance with the mission. As for Bison Diaz,
they both remain in federal custody pending detention hearings next week.
The prosecutors handling their cases will soon see grand jury
indictments to hold them accountable for their alleged wrongdoing. And

(07:30):
with that, we'll take a couple of questions as a
group before breaking out into breakout sessions.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
As discussed before, I.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Need to discuss how long you want to be working
on this particular investigation, how these suspects defendeds can.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Puay on for that, I'm going to yield to my colleague,
assistant United States Attorney Thomas forsythe who's prosecuting the case.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
This investigation is still ongoing, and so there are a
lot of things that we are not going to discuss,
but there had been a significant amount of work put
into what happened on Friday night and what was seized.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
What you see before you.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
So there's some of the press conference from the Federal
Bureau of Investigation out of Atlanta. Will their ride to
an Airbnb and they captured Futures Brother, which is Casino
and another gentleman that goes by the name of Das.
When they said his last name was Das, that basically
told me he was a migo. But they said something
that kind of struck me as odd. And of course
I'm not involved in the drug game, so I wouldn't

(08:32):
have any information on these things. But they said that
twenty bricks is worth a million dollars. I'm not so
sure about that, and what happens is at least from
my perspective, I think when they do a drug bus,
they inflate the numbers because they're appealing to the community.
I think that you can get more than twenty bricks
for a million dollars. I'm not sure, again because I

(08:54):
don't know the prices, But again I just found that interesting.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
I think you probably can get maybe forty five the
sixty bricks for a billion dollars, but they have twenty
bricks at a million dollars a fitting OFL. Another thing
that kind of stood out to me is that they
didn't say fentanyl mismixed with coke. They didn't say fittingal
in pills. They said fittin OFL. So they said that
they ran in and got twenty one bricks of fittingal
like pure fittinol. Maybe I can see that being worth

(09:21):
a million dollars twenty bricks of pure fitting all because
you can cut Fitt down like two million times and
it's still to be strong. Something that I wanted to
speak about because of course I've been side of the
inner city and been having communication with some of the
people who are boots on the ground on my tail
end of changing my life. Right before I kind of
found the other side, and God blessed me with such

(09:43):
an illustrious opportunity to speak to y'all for a living.
There was something happening in the quote unquote streets, and
it was interesting to me. I believe that the Mexican
cartel had waged war on America via our drug trade.
You get to a certain level and you run into
the Mexican. There's really nowhere around that. Like if you

(10:06):
call yourself in the dope game, you get out there
and you get the hustling, you gonna run into a
Mexican at some point. Because we always felt like the
Mexican was the plugs. The Columbian really is the plug,
right if you know, you know, But sometimes when we
were coming up, we would think the Mexican was the plug.
And so the black people that participating in the drug
trade and the Mexican that participate in the drug trade,

(10:29):
they're gonna cross paths at some point. The black boy
is more eager to spend his money with the Mexican
because it builds a relationship. Again, it's just an inheritance
that the Mexican already has just because of his skin
tone and where he comes from. Here's something that I
guarantee none of y'all don't know. You can run up

(10:51):
on any Mexican, you know, any one of them, and
they can get you some coke. They might act like,
oh no, I don't know nothing about that. How is it?

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Bruh?

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Any Mexican you know, know somebody that knows, somebody that's
frowned with the something.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
That's just how we go.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
But when we look at the Mexican man, we would
always say the Mexican was the plug.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
So now back to them raging war.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
I believe that when we arrested Choppo, that someone made
a decision to poison Americans with fitting on. The reason
I say this is because again and all of this
is a legend, and I'm just speaking. I don't know
how I know this, but suck certain things. I just
know without even being involved or being around it. It's

(11:41):
just intuitive. Right right before the pandemic and all of
that shit took place, the plugs, the Mexican plugs, was
forcing heron. They were trying their best to get people
off of cocaine. And that sounds crazy because you say,
why would they try to get people off of cocaine. Now,

(12:03):
me being somebody as a hustler, I look at it
and say, well, the reason why they would want to
get you off cocaine is because harn costs much more.
So back at this time, you maybe could have got
a gram of coke for twenty five dollars, for twenty
dollars a gram, thirty dollars a gram that heron was
seventy five a hundred if you ain't know, nothing like
a hundred of gram, right, And were talking about from

(12:25):
a just a somebody that kind of is involved perspective,
So not to mention you don't never be around here,
you just showing up, right, So look at that profit margin.
The Mexicans were in a situation where a bricker cocaine
would be let's say thirty three thousand, thirty thousand, thirty
two thousand, and they had got it up to that number.
But then a bricker harn will be double triple at

(12:48):
and you can step on it, like they would tell
you these things. Hey man, we'll sell you this and
it's straight. You can step on the tourneys, one ounce
in the two tourneys, one break in the two and
a half bridge, sella da da da, like they would
give you the ge ain't. But what they were really
trying to do is force hairn on our people. Now
it had gotten so bad to where some of the

(13:08):
people who were involved with the drug trade were saying, listen,
br I don't have no HAIRN customers, so I don't
want to spend money on han.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
That's before the young man. Now they onw hairn.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
But back then it was still a situation where people
really wasn't involved with HAIRN. So dudes was like, man,
I don't got no hair on customers. I'm not finna
take and spend twenty five grand or something on some
hair run and don't got nobody to give it off to.
So what happened was the Mexicans start giving it out
and I'm gonna get to the point the Mexicans start

(13:39):
giving it out. And when I say giving it out,
it's basically on consignment. It ain't nothing free. There's no
free lunch. So they would give it to you knowing
you don't have the customers, so they'll serve you for
your two bricks and then throw you at nine hairn
just on the strength. Now when they start to see
that that wasn't turning the people into hairon customers and

(14:01):
this is just alleged for me, this is just me
with my ten to four hat going down a conspiracy
theory line. But back then when they were trying to
send a heraon to the people and nobody had any customers,
if you paid attention, at least in my area, if
you paid attention right after that, what you dealt with
was they started to intentionally send bad work and real

(14:23):
strong heron. So they couldn't force you to buy, but
they can step on it so bad where your customer's
gonna start saying, man, you got something strong within this shit.
I got a little bit of that heroon. Just take
a little piece of that. See if you and I
believe at this point that the Mesicans now have eased
up off of it because if you notice the fetanol

(14:45):
deaths have went down. There was a point of time, man,
where you were bump into young people dying from fidinal
Like I got five six of my homeboys regular hit
money just Za nixt popping Perker said, hopping boards, like
some of these four young people twenty two died off
their fitting. Now, man, it was crazy for a minute.

(15:07):
And so when I hit him show up to this
home where they said future brother, Casino was inside of it,
and they got the guy DZ there that told me
he was a migo. I look at Casino right, because
you can tell. And I just want to awe y'all
industry to know this. When y'all young be acting like

(15:28):
y'all still in the street, we can tell based on
like like when you when Casino posts, you could tell
Brush still be around his people, He's still accessible to
his neighborhood. Let's address the elephant in the room. There's
a lot to talk about. Number one. There's a couple
of key things I want you guys to pay attention to.
Number one, This is a federal case which speaks to

(15:52):
the gravity of the scenario and situation. This is a
bit different than some of these guys who's been caught
up on some of these state charges. Is like the
Fed's coming to get you, and you being caught with
twenty bricks of fitting dollar and four hundred thousand dollars. Now,
there's conversations going on in the culture. I want to
chime in on some of them today. The first thing

(16:14):
I want to speak to is that in that press
conference that we just listened to, you heard the gentlemen
that represented the federal government come out and say number
one slick question by the person in the audience, the
journalists who asked the question, how long have you been
working on this investigation? And you know what he said,

(16:40):
this is still an ongoing investigation.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Now.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Usually when you catch twenty bricks and fitting doll at
one time in four hundred thousand, that's the investigation is over.
You got your guy, You got damn near a million
dollars in shit right here. You got two people to
hold account. When you got a DS from the West Coast,
you know exactly what you think his role in this is.

(17:06):
But he didn't say this investigation is now concluded, which
a lot of times drug investigations never conclude.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
But when you get this twenty brick thing.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
I just think the language in the verbis needs to
be called to the carpet. He says, Yo, We're still
doing it. We're still having ongoing investigation. But what I
will say is this a lot of work winning and
what you've seen take place on Friday night. Now they
said so much without saying anything, and the rumblings online

(17:37):
are what's.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Going on with future.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
I want to be clear to Fizz play a different game.
I was telling one of my people, I got two.
I got three of my real friends, my real people,
people I love in the Fizz right now. And every
time I think about it, I tell myself that, Yo,
these people are dealing with a different level of intel.
And the reason I say is I know that they

(18:01):
allow things to go on so they can get that
intel up. Everybody that I know that went to the Fizz,
not the people that caught three folk cases and then
they just batted you up and the Fizz picked you up.
I'm talking about the people that I know that the
federal government investigated and wanted to bring them to justice
for quote unquote crimes. They always come when the mother

(18:26):
load is there.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Man.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
It's something about a AS show people. Maybe it's just
my people. But every time the FIS done hit somebody,
I know they always come when the mother load there.
They don't never damn the FIS came and they really
didn't get none.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I really got thirty bricks over man.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
They always come when the need and the mother load
is there, whether it's cash or it's worked, they always
have the intel. What I believe to take place is
these have seen Future brother there and said, let's hit
right now. Now do you know the people? Of course
he probably know the people. Is he involved. I'm not

(19:04):
sure if he's involved, but I'm thinking that the FITS
was watching this operation. They see that that's Future's brother.
Let's hit it right now. That's our opportunity to try
to work our move.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Now.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
On the other side, we think about Future celebrating his birthday.
His brother was arrested days prior, days following his birthday.
That's one two. Future has been going through. You know,
a little bit of turmoil here lately. You know, our
prayers go out the Future. You gotta hold your head.
You know, you will sold your head down and keep pushing.

(19:39):
But you know, Future is dealing with Schooter. Future is
dealing with Casino now going through this, him and Thug
having that situation, Thug going to jail and getting out
and then this, you know what I mean, Like, you know,
Pluto got some shit on his plate right now. And
there's also been some of my counterparts, some of the
people that's in the media that's been speaking to man,

(20:00):
you know, why is Future's brother in that kind of
scenario to be hustling because they take that to mean
that he's hustling because he's been caught around someone that
has this amount of work at one place. And you
would have people who may have not even grew up
in America basically saying things like yo yo, his Future stingy,

(20:23):
why is his brother and them even involved in this?
And RP Schooter, They would bring up Scooter's name and
you know, all of these guys that ain't trap houses
and what's going on with this. I want to chime
in on that and try to bring a little context
or at least a little bit of my understanding around
what it's like to be the headhunch or just be

(20:43):
someone who comes from the street. And I take Future
to be someone that comes from the street. I take
you know, his family is Crew I take these people
to be people who evolved in the doll came from
a dog place, the roads that grew up from the crete.
I'm gonna try to ask some context. Maybe it's not

(21:04):
Future doesn't give people access to it to income number one.
Just like me, I'm somebody that just I just can't
ask no for no money. Like I'm cool with that
Mike got a half a billion, I'm cool with they
got hundreds of millions. I'm cool with they got hundreds
of thousands. I'm cool with all kind of needs. But

(21:27):
some about me won't let me ask for no money. See,
some of y'all don't understand that. Some of y'all even
take it as if when why future don't just handle
a million dollars? Something ain't taking no million dollars from
their partner and they don't seen him sweat like this
here Ford blood sweat and tears travel every man, and

(21:47):
it just be y'all is looking for dadd Is to
be ready to get up under spend all the money
he don't work for something just saying hey, Homer, that's
your money.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
I'm gonna get man off the concrete. You my partner.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
I'm supporting I'm around you, we balling, we living, but
I don't want no money.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
He ain't handing me no.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Million dollars, just on some he go some money. What
kind of y'all taking it up? Y'all think it's waiting
around like the rapp. Hey daddies, Hey man, just give
me the money. Come on, man, I'm from shit. Man
know how to get money outside of their homeboards. I'm
the kind of guy that ain't taking a meeting from
my people without me putting no work in Like we

(22:27):
can work together. You giving me a meal ticket and
we business partners, and we done made money together in
that scenarios that called for that. But me just taking
and going through and just handing the meeting because I'm loaded.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Man, We got to work for money. Man.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
By the sweat our brows, what the Bible say, by
the sweater his brows, what the Bible say. And so
the idea that some of the people in media always
kick this, yo, why the rapper ain't taking care of everybody?
Some of these hustlers, some of the you see what
the rap they get money like rappers, they live like

(23:04):
ball players. Ain't no rapper or no ball player, none
of them just come in baby like he a little boy.
If anything, men want to work for their money. A
real man want to work for his money. It's only
you suckers. It's you new ways that want to be
abundant and want him to just one day on your

(23:27):
birthday pop out with two hundred grand for you. And
you ain't done nothing, y'all. He wanted to get treated
like a wife. I ain't getting down like that, and
I ain't accepting money from there like that. Listen, we
trade gifts and we look out for each other, and
we get money together, not you give me money. See

(23:47):
that when I'm saying, I gotta have a crew full
of get money together, not a crew full of I'm
giving money to.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
See.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
I'ma feed my tribe. I feed my little I'm the
head honcho. So there's a reason why when you see me,
it ain't a hunding me. My reputation say that when
it me, he took care of. When a woman with me,
they took care of. So the more people you see
with me, the more problems I'm putting on my plate.
And so I got to limit my visibility to keep

(24:20):
myself from going through things and trying to save the
day and help with this and help with that, and
so there's that you're dealing with the guy who yo,
I ain't just take that's because my brother got money,
just because my cousin got money, just because loan my homeboy,
just because whatever. I ain't just gonna take his money.
Like I ain't just expecting brother, come bring me five

(24:41):
hundred thousand. The nerve of some of you. I ain't
seeing you supposed to be broke. I want to see
you eat, but I don't want to cook for you.
It's either when I'm it's a difference home. I ain't
no hater because I don't want to throw my apron
on and go and cook for some mother. I got
a family to feed, got a family to save. They

(25:03):
be saying, man, brother, don't be here. Man, I ain't
putting my apron on. So I get everybody in my
family feed, all my tribe feed. Once my people fed,
will invite the neighborhood. We invite the doubter us see
because people are doubt you for a minute, and then
you turn your head and look back, and they'll show
up with a plate in they hand. They want to

(25:25):
eat off the same table that they doubt that you
will be able to put food on. You gotta guard
your grilling, guard your sansity. All this rumbling online about
who ain't giving who this and who ain't giving who that,
And it's rappers taking care of their families and helping
they people. Number one, Let's even look at future situation,

(25:46):
because again I'm seeing the Internet talk about it. I'm
gonna chime in on it.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Future.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
That made a lot of money. I'm sure Future loaded.
I'm sure he loaded it, made a lot of mon
money sold his catalog, don't when platinum, ompting times, albums,
platinum tours, sold lot merch, bread partnerships. He's done a
lot of business in this game. He covered a lot

(26:14):
of ground. Futures worked extremely hard for their money. But
here's the other side of their Future has been sold.
Future got eight children. Future like the full dB. Future
like to spend money on clothes. See there's a scenario
where rappers are spending a shit ton of money.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Now.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Future is an anomaly because he can handle it. Whatever comes.
When he make enough money to whatever he want to do,
he can handle it. But let's take it from Future
and deal with some of the other rappers. Right, some
of these rappers don't got as much money as you
may think they have. And some of them don't even
know how much money they truly got until somebody tap
them on the shoulder and say you can't bat the
bend and won't got that much in the account no more.

(27:00):
Some of these really don't know all of the money
they got. They might know one account, but they don't
have a real portfolio of exactly how much money is
coming in and going out every month. Once you make it,
these just laid back and kick, They feed up and
trust somebody. Yeah, they laid back, kick, they feed up
and trust them on it with all of their money

(27:21):
and all of their life's work. I heard jay Z
say before I got accounts shaking accounting lawyers, shacking lawyers.
It's a dirty game. It's a dirty world. And so
in spite of the lawsuit and all of the other
extracurricular scenarios that this gentleman finds itself in, I think
that people cannot imagine the number of people that won't

(27:45):
help from a person. I mean they cast a wide net.
Bro We talk about strangers, companies, boys and girls, clubs,
five one three seeds, family, absent family, long lost family,
brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, dogs and cats like
man they come out to everybody wants something when they think, man,

(28:08):
he really got money. The lucky Paul with some people
is the money and the fame go hand in hand.
Some people got more money than they do fame. But
when you flip that coiner, you got more fame than
you got money. That's when you end up being depression
because you can't help people because you don't got it.

(28:29):
But their fame indicates to them that you are in
a position that you're not in. You gotta know how
to navigate fame without money. See navigating fame with money
and fame without money. It's two different things. And so
when you talk about spending habits and not understanding taxes
and having eight kids or being seld by rock or
running a business, see y'all don't understand. But see it's

(28:53):
entrepreneurs out there that understand. And so when you have
this high overhead, for example, you you even see some
of the NBA players, some of the wealthy people, coaches
and things that they say are involved in gambling. Everybody
man whoa they clutching their pearls, say bruh. Sometimes your
pride won't let you just give your money away, and

(29:15):
sometimes your stupidity won't lift you give your money away.
Sometimes you're too stupid to take a million and chop
it up. But sometimes your pride saying, nah, I can't
take care of no grown people. They got to get
it how they live. And so when you deal with
some of these high earners, the pressure that comes along
with carrying the family to the next level with you,

(29:38):
not just your immediate family, but there's other people that
want to take that ride to the next level as well,
and so the pressure that comes along with that can
have you making some decisions. You have someone like Chauncey
Billups who has had a long career that'll be doing
some gambling on the side and find themselves in an
unfortunate circumstance. A scenario that I can see that makes

(30:01):
sense is so say I'm in the NBA, man, I
got five ten cousins, I love, some of my big
homies and people I love, and some of the news
I really care about around the way, they be really
looking for me to look out for them, and I
ain't really trying to go in my money and take
a half of a ticket out and disperse it like I'm
some kind of sin of clause and it's something that

(30:23):
don't want to take that path. And so if I'm
an NBA player, man, instead of me giving out a
half of me and a year to all of these individuals,
or a me and a year or two million a year,
whatever the numbers is. Hey, man, I'm gonna take care
of y'all by doing this situation for you for four
games a year. Now, you gotta bet on me on

(30:44):
those games. You're gonna win sixty seventy grand a night.
That's your money for the year. And so I've now
circumvented the process of giving you my money. But you
feel like you're making some money because you place a
bet knowing I'm gonna pull out the game, knowing I'm
gonna go under because I do not already indicated to

(31:05):
you four times a year. Now tell you and all
the homeboard four times a year on these certain games,
I'm gonna go under. That's to feed you'll families for
the year. Now, so load up. When I send this
smiling emoji to you, that means I'm going under for
this game. So tell the homies y'all load up. Everybody

(31:26):
feed their families. It's that dumb hey man. People are
trying to find a way to feed their people without
going broke. People don't understand money. They don't understand every
dollar is not your dollar. They don't understand taxes, they
don't understand the operating costs of the business. They just say, man,
you signed for eighteen million. You dig what I'm saying.

(31:47):
And so you gotta find a way. That's a new problem.
See when they say more money, more problems, that's a
new problem. You don't even know how to handle that
kind of problem. Everybody needs something and you got it
to give them to them all saying shit to you.
They be saying it to me. You know, God watching you,
God watching me about what the money? Them foe asking

(32:09):
me when you know God is I give the people.
I do for people. But don't damn, don't blackmail me. Yeah,
don't victimize me. You understand what I'm saying. They'll take
the God thank God watching you. Man, you got that
money now, God watching them. And so sometimes it'll be
on your mind, like, damn, I got the money to
really help everybody. But that's a bad decision and it's

(32:33):
training them the wrong way. So I give them this money,
they go the wrong route with it, come right back.
I got to give them some more mon So I'm
getting up every day working hard on them is to
pass money out everybody else living their best life. I'm
working hard, and so I think that not only rappers.
I think rappers try to find a way to help
they people make money, ball players, anybody in this position.

(32:55):
I always tell y'all, there's an ecosystem following some of
the evenings and some of the shit they know about it,
some of it they don't.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Then why when you have their crew.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
That's why I be saying about the twenty thirty round you, Yo,
this's a whole ecosystem following you. Now, if they ain't
cashing in knowing that, then don't. But if they're doing
too much to sacrifice the business, they dumb as well.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
So you gotta know the sweet spot, you see what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
You can't bleed the brand, but you also can't just
be around and on nothing, and so the ecosystem has
to be tapped into some of these individuals instead of
taking your money and make money off you. And that's
just how they get out and so anytime they ask
me that question about the ball players or the rappers
or how they'll be involved or some of the some

(33:43):
of the people that's in close proximity to them can
be involved. Sometimes being around people brings you more opportunity
than it brings money. And sometimes those opportunities don't you
work the ones you know how to work right. You
work the eye you know how to work right. Like
if you walk up to the stove, you always cook
on the back eye. You really don't know how to
cook nothing on broil, you really don't know how to

(34:05):
bake nothing. But on the back eye, back there, cut
that on high. I can go chicken, I can go ballogna,
I can go cheat.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Right. I know what I'm doing on the top of
the stole. Right.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
So sometimes you work the one you know how to work.
And sometimes that's why you gotta be disciplined, because you
get in these scenarios. Too much of anything is an addiction, right,
So you get in these scenarios and you get a
wealthy making opportunity.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, street come at you. Energy drinks come at you.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, the cocktail come at you, the mob come at you,
the recollect Yeah, everybody come at you and try to
tap in when you really pop it, don't take the
streets is not involved in that. See, I remember Jezu
used to say. And that's why I'm telling you all.
I got close enough to some of the find out
that they wasn't really talking about nothing before I was

(34:57):
an interviewer.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Man, some of my people we really pulled.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
We really pushed up on certain rappers that was kicking
certain things and tried to figure it all the way
out and they really wasn't knowing that, which is cool.
That's when I realized out there they'll tell us the
trap or die and then tell they kids to go
to college. I remember Jesus saying to push up and
throw nine pieces, throwing their numbers up there and trying

(35:23):
to really serve Jesus or get served, and like, man,
what y'all doing? Got two hundred k? What can we do?
And there your people arown. Depending on who you are,
you bite off that. Nowadays, what happens is they'll bite
off that because they think fuking with the weed and
ain't really that seris so running through these cities biting
off that and a lot of eating off man. Listen, man,

(35:44):
we plugged with Little Buttery and them in. Yeah, we
really moving around, and it's just an ecosystem following rappers.
When you get to a certain level, you gotta chop
all that shit off. You understand what I'm saying. We
got an opportunity to do things from a different level.
But I understand you work which way you know how
to work, and it's unfortunate that we had that limited

(36:06):
of information. Don't know what to do, and it sounds
crazy until you really get some money and figure out.
Oh man, this shit crazy, ah man, this shit here,
crazy man. I want to buy their building. What I'm
supposed to do? You understand what I'm saying. Oh, I
want to start me a chicken shock what I'm supposed

(36:28):
to do? Just didn't know what to do, and they
just hiding the money. Really, it's the Easter egg. See,
that's the problem with a lot of people that come
from the street. They hustling hard. Man, I'm talking about
hustling good, really getting money, but their money just sitting around.
It's the East Egg waiting on somebody find it. They
can't spend it, they don't know how to spend it.

(36:49):
They don't know what to do with it, so they
either waiting on the jack boards or the fiz to
find the money. You see what I'm saying. So we
have to equip ourselves with better information, new information, and
put ourselves in a scenario to move forward. I'm gonna say,
free Casino, shout out the free bears, and hopefully everybody's good.

(37:13):
At some point, we gotta turn our back on what
we what we used to know, though, and I'm gonna
say that at the same time, just for the youngsters watching.
You understand what I'm saying. Man, we gotta turn our
back on what we used to know. We gotta turn
our back on the easy route. We gotta know it's
gonna be a hard fight. It's gonna be a hard fight.
It's gonna be an uphill battle. It's gonna be a

(37:33):
twelve round bout. We're going into the championship rounds. Then
team up on you. Then gonna get all together and
they gonna get better, and they gonna put rumors out,
them gonna lie on you, them gonna try to discredit you.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
But then that.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Still gonna lose. And that's the confidence that we gotta have.
I tell people that you got to always remember, man,
no matter what they come with, they still gonna lose.
And that what that was seeping from my spirit, that
what I'm working with, that which one I'm moving. Man,
whatever they come with, they gonna lose. Stack them all

(38:10):
lop and so as y'all all come together. See, here's
something I understand. You don't lose the people that gotta
come together to beat you. It's impossible to lose the
people that have to come together to beat you. But
in spite of all of that, that's gonna come a

(38:30):
time where you gotta look at all the they says
and you gotta believe it in your heart. You gotta
look at the nay says and know, no matter what
y'all come with, you wanna win. You can go and
recruit anybody with a grudge, old friends, baby Mama's, anybody mad,
go get the whole gauntlet.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
You're still gonna lose.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
That's also something I'm gonna address this week too, because
it's it's a reason me and suckers don't get along.
It's a reason me in these sucker on mixing blend
that I don't really would know. Really, it really be
a reason you don't see me, really tapping and and
vibing with everybody. But there's a reason you don't see
me just you know, integrated with everybody and just accepting

(39:16):
everyone with open on. You understand me, man I, And
you know I've been around a long time. I'm an
expert on human behavior, so I can study and see
things that just the nicked I won't pay attention to.
I recognize patterns, and I may or may not say anything,
but I always grab intael. But I don't want to

(39:37):
be around everybody. I don't want to I don't want
to embrace everybody because I'm really real. I'm really true.
I'm really a real one, right See, sometimes when you
embrace everybody, you learn the hard way. I remove myself
from some of the social settings and some of the

(39:57):
fake love, and sometimes it feel disrespectful because I'm unwilling
to engage with fake love. And people think I'm bulls
or maybe I'm arrogant. They don't even see the man
that's protecting themselves. They don't see the man that understands right,
because I wouldn't do my children or disservice and introduce
one of you sucker as for them, like uncle, like

(40:20):
familya or like the home team or this's my friend,
and then got explained to him that you was a
hater in disguised the entire time. I was reading the
study the other day. They said that men are less
often to go up and speak to women, and people
have the wrong outlook as to what's the driving force
behind such a decision. When you read the article, it

(40:41):
speaks to how now when a relationship doesn't work, you
now have to worry about the internet being involved in
people backstabbing you and embarrassing you and bringing certain things
to the forefront that was done in private and certain
intimate situations are now placed on the big screen the titan.

(41:01):
And so now you gotta adjust and say, next time,
I won't be so free with my love. Next time,
I won't be so free with my opportunity because it
comes with a consequence. It's unfortunate. It's gonna make me
a little more hesitant. But see, I learned a long
time ago how to flush out at and excuse my language.

(41:21):
I want to use less profanity as I get older,
But I've learned how to flush out of and how
do you do that? Long where and when it comes
to me, I just won't engage with fake love because
real love is patient. Real love is patient. Fake love
they need me and they need me now that fake

(41:43):
love fragile, that fake love is brutal. They need me
and they need me now that fake love it may
disappear if I don't get it done right now at
this second. But real love is patient. And so I
don't engage with fake love because I understand that people
will come with their costume and try to rob and something.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
It is cashake.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
But see, I keep telling people, I'm elite information based
executive Brad Southern District. I been new that you don't
honor a man that you can't use. They think I
ain't smart enough to understand that. They don't know how
to honor man. They can't use. You don't know how
to honor man, that doing things that you can't benefit
from you is just side with it. When you see

(42:31):
me say man, I'm proud of dude, or I want
to see him win, or man, let's not do him
like that clutch they pearls. They don't even know how
to react to real shit. They don't know how to
honor man. They can't use. That's why they don't call
my phone don't hit my line because they know we
can't use long.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
We got to deal with him like a man.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
It gets even deeper than that, because we've created an
environment where people can't honor a man they can't use
But then they take it a step first, and if
they can't use you, they want to discredit you. The
problem is when you really built it brick by brick,
they can't discredit you, When you really built it from
the ground up, they can't discredit you. They can stop

(43:13):
liking your posts, they can stop commenting on your shit,
they can stop sharing your shit, but they can't discredit you.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
You know, it's the oldest trick in the book. They
can't call you, they discredit you. They can't use you,
they discredit you. You no longer.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
It's just at their every peck and call they discredit you.
I'm sure people know they're old saying when a man
didn't help build the house, he'll convince itself.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
That is leaning. You got to ignore some of these people.
They gotta cope with.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
You existed without their fingerprints on the building, without their
fingerprints on any brick, any hammer, any tool. See, that's
the problem. Everybody wants something, but the ain't nobody want
to do nothing. I take a look when I go
to hand in my money out, the first thing got
do we bring me all the tools?

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Check for finger prints.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
We want to reward the builders.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, we want to reward the just actually them put
a tool in their hand to build up this infrastructure
in some kind of way. We got a lot of
ground to cover, a lot of work to do. We're
going up against giants and they hate us. We going
up against it's big in the game, and most of
them hate us. They are not excluded from what I'm
saying today. They don't know how to honor a man

(44:31):
they can't use. I'm just hoping that people out there
building something that they're not afraid to be confident, that
they're not afraid to believe in themselves. You know, me
being someone that stands out on the hill in the industry,
full of the being in the industry. You know, sometimes
I catch certain arrows and people wonder that doesn't affect

(44:52):
my mental The problem is that every single person that
puts a negative comment about me, Loan don't believe them. Now,
I can't speak to the people that see comments and
believe them, but deep down in my spirit, in my
heart right certain comments is like that don't even it

(45:17):
don't make sense, and it don't feel like nothing. Then
my new question till myself is why do people hate
to see black confident men, somebody that'll come out in
not disrespect one person, but speak to the ground they
may have covered and beat their chest, say, if Lord willing,

(45:38):
I go to the next level, I be the greatest lie.
When did that start to become offensive? When did believe
it in yourself start to offend so many people? Already
as a black dude, right, as a black man, you
come out and you run the company. You already fighting
for markus Sheddon equity in some of these boardrooms, in

(46:00):
some of these meetings, and then you gotta come and
deal with your own people that's unhappy with you being
confident in yourself. They don't like the base in your voice.
This your own people. They don't like the base in
your voice. They don't even see the burden you care.
See sometimes the bravado is just covering up the burden.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
I care.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
That every single day I gotta revaluate the business. Every
single day, I gotta reinsert to the companies what this is.
Why it's important. What's going on, how grassroots, how powerful?
How many people, how much retention, how many views, how
many listens, how many sponsorships, what's to click through rate?

(46:41):
How many paying customers? How money? I gotta explain every
single day. I gotta reassure people constantly under attack, and
then you come to the people you actually do it for,
and they don't like that, You're still confident they ain't
broke you down yet. Some people don't understand what it's

(47:01):
like to have to fight in rooms that you've put
the most furniture in. I hate them, say Thames, and
some of these coming saying, I'm saying, yo, hold on, man,
they don't expect me to fight in no room I
put the furniture in, dude. And so some of y'all
gotta really understand that as black men, especially, you know,

(47:25):
people like me, we go up against celebrities and big
companies and all of these different facis of business and
got we gotta stand tall and stand on business. And
if we don't believe, nobody will believe trust me, trust me.
And so this video is in two parts. I'm not

(47:47):
sure where the editors are gonna put what we hopefully
you watch this week's episode of It's Up that podcast
that comes out on Thursday, officially on our YouTube, come
to our Patreon. We're in the Charleston White era. As
far as me not allow him to have that conversation

(48:09):
about young Thug, I just felt like he was in
character mode.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
There was no room for.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Me to allow him to antagonize and tae down someone
that I call a homeboy and a friend on my platform.
And it's not his personal story, right, you just comment
on it. And at that time, I just I didn't
feel it was it was it was a good time
to have a conversation, so I pulled the plug.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Executive move.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Also academics responded, I see a couple of people out
there trying to put it like that there's violence on
the table for academics. I need you all to understand
that there's things going on outside of academics and there's
no violence unless someone on that side presents violence. My
thing is is to have some respect when I about

(49:00):
academics and videos. You don't hear me say he sucked dick.
You know where we come from. Those words are just
a little they're a little fun. And I heard him
sayd on the episode in real time because I don't
watch these videos before I get on Live with y'all.
So I hear him say he's a dick sucker and

(49:21):
all this, I'm like, man, nigga talking to me, like,
did what's wrong with this dude? We got to keep
this thing respectful and see who can have the best
outlook and take. And if we never speak cool, I
don't give a about speaking to nobody. It's about seeing
who has the best take and what we present the culture.

(49:42):
He critiqued me, I critique him. There's no real beef
academics has built a platform over there. We just don't
stand for the same things. And so I want to
reassure the audience and people that love me that nah,
that ain't no, it's not on that level. If it

(50:05):
was on that level, I wouldn't speak about it. And
you know, we're here to make money, We're here to
make content. We live a good life. We've been able
to do things that no one has been able to do.
But we will carry ourselves like men in every circumstance
no matter where we are. Right in twenty twenty six,

(50:25):
we want to have a little bit more fun with
the content and conversation and bring y'all different elements and
aspects of what it is we do. I got a
bunch of different things lined up, hopefully they play theirself out.
Looking at a couple of set.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Designs and tables.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
And I think I want to put my new set
together in the It's up there podcast compound, kind of
like Breakfast Club done. It's looking at theirs. When I
was looking at the Ray J interview and I said,
this is an all purpose type of situation. You got
the stationary cameras, you got the one guy able to stand.
He has his spot where he focused kind of on

(51:03):
the guests and on Charlemagne. Then you have what I
really liked about. It is in the background, right, because
sometimes rappers bring it entourage or maybe they'll bring products.
You can put shit in the background on those sofas
that allow the guests to kind to kind of promote things.

(51:25):
So I'm just thinking about all that, right. We got
a lot of work to do, man, I really with y'all.
Hopefully y'all like this part of the show. We got
one more Paul where I talk about the Blue Face
and Summer Walker, Rich the Kid, Chrishan Rock, all the people, stuff,
So I really y'all. Thank y'all, keep watching, don't touch
that doll. We'll be right back.

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