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July 9, 2024 48 mins

This week, Tommy is joined by acting powerhouses Eliza Taylor and Bob Morley for a rare joint interview. They are best known for their starring roles in the post-apocalyptic smash-hit television series, The 100, which ran for an incredible 7 seasons. The internet crowns The 100 as one of “the greatest TV shows of all time,” and for good reason. Aside from this fan-favorite series, you can currently watch Bob in Love Me and In Limbo, streaming on Hulu, and you can catch Eliza on NBC’s Quantum Leap season 2 streaming on Peacock. Today Eliza and Bob open up about what they miss the most about being on The 100, how they are both eager to play their characters again, what playing the network’s first openly bisexual character meant to Eliza, what they have learned about themselves through being on a series for so many years, the moment Bob realized he needed to protect his mental health towards the end of filming the 100, what they want to see if a reboot happens, how they prioritize their marriage while being parents and having demanding careers, balancing feeling proud and successful of their work while worrying about what comes next, and something that they both want to share for the first time in hopes of helping other people feel less alone. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with
me Tommy di Dario. Today is another very special episode
because I have not one, but two wonderful actors on
my show. Eliza Taylor and Bob Morley are best known
for their starring roles in the hit post apocalyptic sci
fi drama The Hundred. Now. The show ran for an

(00:23):
incredible seven seasons, and it catapulted this beautiful couple into
worldwide superstardom. And of course they have gone on to
do a bunch of other really incredible work. This is
a really cool episode because yes, we celebrate their work
that means so much to so many people, but also
we go deep. It is very rare that both Eliza

(00:43):
and Bob sit down for an interview together, and I
am truly grateful for their time and how open and
vulnerable that they both were. Today you were going to
learn more about the humans behind the characters that have
stolen your hearts for so many years. So let's see
if today we can get Eliza and Bob to say
something that they have never said before. Eliza and Bob,

(01:13):
how you doing today?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
This is oh, I'm happy to have you. And this
is a treat. I know that the two of you
don't do a ton of this stuff, especially together, So
we're gonna have fun. It's gonna be relaxing. And we're
all wearing the same shirt, so people are listening. They
can't see it right now, but we are all in
the white T shirt memo. So I already love you guys,
because you have clearly good style too.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
You bought me the shit I did.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well, you're looking good. You're looking good. I don't even
know where to begin, because the both of you are
such accomplished artists and actors, and you've done so many
things that people really love. Of course, one of the
biggest being The Hundred, which just catapulted the two of
you into this international little you know, fandom and superstardom

(02:03):
for lack of a better word. And it really really
became a show that meant so much to so many people.
And I can't believe ten years ago it premiered, which
is just mind blowing. So I guess, for the both
of you, what do you miss most about your characters
and doing that show?

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Oh my gosh, I mean I loved I loved that
show so much. It was such a huge, like moment
in our careers. I mean, I think, you know, the
longevity of the show and what you know, how much
it's meant to the fans, Like I do miss that.

(02:40):
I wish we could keep playing out those playing those
characters forever because they really did mean so much to
people and a lot to us as well.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
It's well to think that it was ten years ago.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, and I like, I'm still quite surprised at how
like it seems to just be getting like continuing to
get people watched the show. I think it being on
Netflix and just finding a new audience, like because we
still do conventions around the world and meet new fans
of the show that watched it in the last couple
of weeks. So yeah, that to me is like hugely surprising.

(03:13):
But it's like it's just an amazing thing. And I yeah,
I would love to go back and play Bellamy again.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I think, yeah, I would totally go back and play
Clock again.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
It's just it's like so surreal, especially when you like
finish doing a sci fi show and you go on
to another job and it's not and you know, it's
just like straight trauma. It's the there's a funny thing
when you're in that genre and the stakes are so
high and you really have to kind of push yourself
to get to raise the stakes each time.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
There's a lot of joy to be found in that.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, it's so cool. And I hear people say that
they would return to a role because there are a
lot of actors who kind of like to put distance,
you know, from a certain role, for whatever the reason
may be. And I never fully understand that. I don't know.
I guess my mentality is, if it's something you've played
for so long and it means so much to so
many people, why not always embrace that. And it seems

(04:04):
like the two of you share that same sentiment, right,
like you would embrace it as you.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Just said, Oh absolutely, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
You know, the career that we've chosen is like such
a tricky one and like my most favorite place in
the world other than with family, is on set. And
you know, we were like William Vancouver for seven years
and there's the crew and the cast, they just they
become like that family. And you're working really hard to
do the best job you can to make the but
sure you can, and so you have this common goal

(04:34):
and I love that camaraderie that happens when you're on set.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
There's nothing quite like it.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, and Eliza, for you, you played the network's first
openly bi sexual character, which you know you hear that
now and you might think, oh, well that's common, but
it's it's it's not like it wasn't common and there
you were. So what did wearing that badge of honor
mean to you?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Oh? It was incredible. I mean I think when and
when that development first came along for my character, I
was just like, oh, great, that's awesome. I didn't realize
that when I don't think I realized she was the
first only bisexual character on the network until much later.
For me, I mean, I've just grown up around, like

(05:19):
I have a lot of family members who are bisexual.
It just didn't seem like a something that wouldn't be
shown on TV. And it was only until like I
saw the press and media coverage that I went, oh,
this is like this is a first CW. It was bizarre,
like yeah, but it was just incredible, and I you know,
I still get to meet fans at conventions who say

(05:42):
that that changed their life and that is just I mean,
it's magic, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
It's something that I feel like we're getting more of now,
more of presentation across the board, right, But it was
something that was kind of revolutionary, you know, for then
at least, And that's always like to remind people of
it's it's, you know, times have changed for the better.
But it wasn't that long ago where playing an openly
bisexual character on the CW like wasn't the norm.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
You know, yeah, And I mean when when we were
shooting that, that was that was twenty fifteen, Like, you know,
it really wasn't that long ago. It's it's amazing how
far so fifteen it was, Yeah, yeah, Bob.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
For you, what is something that you most learned about
yourself playing a role for you know, seven seasons? It's
a long time. You You grew up in front of
the world, right and you got to go to work
but in a very public way. So what did you
learn about you?

Speaker 4 (06:43):
I think one of the big takeaways was for such
a long time and throughout my career, like work was
the most important thing. Like I would sacrifice a lot
of my own mental health and physical health just for work,
like that was the only the nuclear less of my world.
And since leaving the show, it was. It became quite

(07:05):
apparent to me that I can't live like that, Like
they have to have a balance of the things that
make me happy or you know, like family, exercise, and work.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
They're kind of like the pillars.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
But when you're working so hard, long hours on the
show for seven years, and it's kind of like that
becomes your focus and everything outside of that job becomes about,
you know, talking about the show. Being in that world,
I found it to be quite consuming. So I think
for me learning about myself, I was like, Okay, I
need to set boundaries for my work and what I

(07:37):
take home and how much time I give that because
I you know, if it was up to me, I'd
probably give it all my time and all those other
aspects of my life. The balance, this work life balance
just disappears. So you know, after twenty years of working,
it's like, oh, this is how I have to try
and you know, have a balance with work and life
and still you know, maintain my own identity out side

(08:00):
of work. So that was an interesting thing. I think
I walked away with like and I think especially when
we finished the show, it was like straight into lockdown.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, it was just the congratulations on seven years, the
world's shut down.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, we were like.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yeah, and you know, like you kind of after working
consistently for seven years, you're like, Okay, onto the next thing.
But I was like, no, everything is stopped, So what
makes you happy outside of work? And that was like
a big process of like, Okay, how do I just
sit still and be comfortable within myself? And then after
going through that process of working for so long and
having the lockdown, now going into work it's like a

(08:39):
bit of a difference where it's like how much of
myself do I want to give to this job?

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Obviously, when I'm in it, I absolutely.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Love it, but like I have to preserve a bit
of energy for myself, for my family, just for my
own sanity. So that's what I learned personally from being
on a show for such a long time.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
That's an important message. I feel like it's in any career.
It's very hard to you know, if you love what
you do, especially, it's hard to kind of separate from
it and give yourself a life outside of it because
you love it and you want to do the best
job you can do right for you guys, you know,
being on sets and having lines to memorize all the time,
especially on a seven season show where I imagine it's

(09:19):
script after script after script, maybe rewrites. Are you fueled
by anxiety? Is it like, oh my god, I don't
want to go to set and not know my words?
Or like how do you approach work and how do
you know when enough practice and preparation is enough? Like
what's the moment you said I got it, I'm ready
for work tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
I think on on the one hundred, especially like the
hundred in like the Crew World is like behind the
scenes is known as it's notoriously.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
As one of the toughest, one of the toughest shows, Yeah,
to work on because there was such long hours, a
lot of night shoots out in the forest, in the rain,
in the snow, you know, big fight scenes, lots and
lots of background to coordinate.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
And so I looking back now, I kind of go,
I think I for a lot of it. I was
kind of just in survival mode, like you, like you
just you'd work fifteen hours on a Monday, and you've
still got till Friday to like.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
To to yeah, and then like when you drive home
your learning lines for the next time.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, So you just kind of like learn as much
as you can, hope that it's in there, get like
six seven hours sleep hopefully, and then get back to
SAT early in the morning and do it all over again.
And it was just like a hamster wheel, you know.
But I think it was the perfect time for me
anyway to do that, because I was in my twenties.

(10:49):
I had like that extra energy to burn. You know.
I don't know if I could do it now.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
It was a lie.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
It was a lot of work, and like, I don't know,
I think especially when you get to the latter seasons
of a show, even like by season two, you have
an understanding of the character and the way that they speak,
and like you get into the rhythm of the show.
So in a way it becomes easier to get prepared
as time goes on. I think, especially for me anyway,

(11:20):
is in season one. I always find when you step
into a new character or a new show or in
a film, you're discovering the character as it's been written
for you. And then as you start to get through seasons,
you personally have a better, like a not better understanding,
but you have a strong grasp with whose character is
and so you start to intertwine your thoughts into the character,

(11:45):
if that makes sense, so that you feel a bit
more ownership of the character as you go along. So
maybe in that respect it feels a little bit easier
the longer you do it.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, that's true. That is one thing I miss about
being on such a long standing shows just how deeply
you know your character and that you can just you
can show up.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
And yeah and be them.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Yeah, They've become a fully formed idea or person within you,
so you can it becomes easier to remove yourself and
then step back into it, you know, and you're like, Okay,
that's where he is, this is what he does, this
is how he walks, this is how he talks, And
so that prep work is just kind of baked in
as you move through seasons.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
After playing somebody for so long, do you feel like,
I mean, a, could you just slip right back into
that character tomorrow, Like you walk onto a set and
no prep needed, You could be that character again tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
So yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
That's so interesting, Yeah, because it's so in you, right,
I imagine with that comes a lot of protection over the
character and it's someone that's a part of you, right,
that you played for so long. Were you happy with
how your storylines wrapped up at the end of the season.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I like, at the end of the whole series, Yeah,
I felt protective of Clark in the way that I
really wish that we could have seen her forgive herself
and heal a little bit. Like I felt like, you know,
I just wanted that for her so badly because she
had been through so much trauma and not fully dealt

(13:21):
with it. So that was my only wish for Clark.
But you know, we can use our imaginations and hope
she got that.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
You know.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
It kind of comes back to that what I was
talking about before, about finding giving myself the time and
space for me personally, and so you know, season seven
was one of those ones where I had to say, look,
I need to take time off to look after me,
to look after Bob, and thus, in effect it kind
of it was a knock on effect into Bella me

(13:51):
not being in the season so much for season seven,
and I was really grateful for the writers and the
CW and WB for allowing me to have that time off.
So yeah, like, I don't know how it could have
wrapped up with Bellamy. I know that for me when
I was performing it, there's a particular scene spoilers if
anyone hasn't seen the show so by now, there's a

(14:12):
scene where Bellamie is I don't know if he's hallucinating
or he sees his mother inside it nothing like a
spiritual he's having this spiritual awakening and he sees his
mother in mcave, his mother Aurora.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
And maybe it was my own.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Personal feelings, maybe it was a Bellamy thing, but it
felt like a very cathartic moment where Balamy kind of
found peace within himself and with everything that had happened.
And I in seven seasons that I've done the show,
I've never had that emotion playing Ballamy, where there's a
level of contentment and forgiveness and peace.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
And so for me, that's.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
His full arc of forgiving himself, for giving everyone else
and letting things be what happens from there on after,
when you know, coming to his untimely.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Death hands of Clark.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
It's that's kind of just to me inconsequential for Bellamy's
full journey.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
It's like he.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Gets that, he gets that moment where he gets to
forgive and find his own inner peace and then try
and move forward and explain that to the group who
are like your mental lie. So yeah, I think that
for me, that was a nice tying up or a
nice arc for Bellamy in a way to finish.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
And that's kind of where I saw his emotional journey.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
And because it was then after that he was on
this journey to spread this piece and this message to
everyone else, which was he was onto the next chapter
of his life. The Bellamy that we knew, I think
finished at that point where he met his mother. So
if I look at it through that lens, and I
find it to be quite a comforting finishing finish to

(15:50):
Bellamy story.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
And good on you for knowing too, when you, as
a human being, need a moment to focus on your
own self and your own mental health. A lot of
people go through life not listening to those little little
voices saying like slow down or take time for you.
And I think that's a really important message to put
out that people should pay attention to you more and
more and more. Obviously you just said and spoiler alert,

(16:14):
everyone should know that your character dies, but the two
of you have made it very clear you would play
these roles again. So how in the world are we
bringing you back? And have you thought about what you
would want to see if you slip into these characters
shoes again?

Speaker 4 (16:28):
You know, like I have definitely thought about it, have you, Yeah,
because they're like rebooting, like shows like The Magicians is
getting a reboot, and that's cool from when we were
doing our shows. Well, definitely rebooting things that were from
ten years ago. Because I haven't seen season seven, but
I hear that Shade Hater was given this special medical

(16:50):
treatment that brought him back, and you know, Balamy gets shot,
but then he kind of disappears. We don't know, but
I know they could have given him this special magic medicine.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, he could very much be alive.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
And then I go looking for you guys, and I
land at that place where you guys are right. I
just got the point where I'm still alive and she's
still alive.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
That's all.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
That's as far as i'm And they also they were
in Los Angeles. That's the other twist.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, yeah, they shoot in Los Angeles. Suddenly the show
is based in because.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Well, I mean, I don't know, I don't know. I
think that there's a lot of I mean, that's the
brilliant thing about the sci fi world is there's just
so much there's so much possibility, and I think we
had such an incredible team of writers that they back
them also come up with something brilliant.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
The other one whatever. The other one that I did
think about was doing a spin off from.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
The end of book one. Oh.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Season six and seven are an outlier as well. It's
kind of like you choose your own adventure from the
end of book one.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Oh yeah, because book.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
One one felt like a real.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Was the end of season five?

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Yeah, the end of book one.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
There you go, thanks to think about it. I hope
Netflix are listening.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah, Hey, stranger things have happened, so you know what.
Put it out there and you never know. And at
the very least, maybe we all need to start writing
you and getting this going.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
I would love that.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
I'm sure there's a lot of fan fiction there for it.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Can I just say watching the two of you together
is so fun because I feel like, even through Zoom,
I like get a sense of your relationship. You're adorable
together and I'm here for the support and the vibes
that you're giving me, and I think it's really cool
and I want to commend the both of you for
being in a from the outside perspective, seemingly beautiful and

(18:53):
healthy relationship while balancing jobs that are very demanding and
being parents and everyday life and everything else that you are.
So how is that, I mean, do you find it
hard to maintain balance? Does balance exist? Is that an
annoying term? Like? How do you do it all but

(19:13):
also keep your relationship burning and thriving and rocking on.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
It's hard to explain because you know, like for me,
he's just my person and I just and ever since
we met, I loved hanging out with him, even before
we were together, I just loved hanging out with him.
And I still feel exactly the same as I did
ten years ago. He's my best friend and it's just

(19:40):
like I'm never unhappy to see him, and it's magic.
I don't really know, like it's not something that we
I mean, we work on the hard stuff, like there
is hard stuff, of course, but you know, just in
everyday life, we're just we always make each other laugh.
There's always time for a giggle, and we do make

(20:01):
time for like you know, little lunch dates.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, we do. We have little dates. We make sure
we have dates.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Yeah, and we also like the other thing that we
because we are a team, and I think that's in
whatever way you looked at it, we're always a team,
like whether we were on the show and now being parents,
being married, and that's kind of like the most important
thing is that we're a team, and it's an evolving
thing and the target's always moving, but we're always Nothing
changes about us working together.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
It's always the two of us against the problem, not
against each other.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, And we make.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Time for just every night we check in with each
other and ask how the day was, even if we
spent every minute together.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, we do. Every night we say how is your day?
And we go through, like hour by hour, how our
days were, even if we spent the whole time together,
just like checking in every night to see we say
how's your heart today?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
I think another huge part of it is just vulnerability
and gratitude with each other for each other, you know.
I think that and being brave enough to go into
those places where if things don't.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Feel right, we'll try and talk through it.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
I know that for both of us, we work on
our own, Like there was a huge part of me
that wanted to work on myself when we got married
for the sake of us and for the sake of myself. Yeah,
you know that became really apparent to me that I
was like, oh, I you mean so much to me
that I don't want to screw this up, and it
means I have to kind of elevate myself and looking weirdly.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, yeah, you're doing you guys, because I think you
can't be in a relationship if you don't work on yourself.
And I come from the mentality I've been married for
going on nine years and nice. I don't believe that
relationships have to be dramatic. Obviously, things are going to
come up and you want to work through them and
talk through them. But in terms of drama, very very

(21:55):
little to no drama I would see in my relationship,
and that's not normalized. It's like, oh, I had a
fight and this person was on the couch or they
stormed out and the door slam and I'm like, it
doesn't have to be like that. I kind of get
the vibe. You guys are like that too.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think life frozen after I'm
or at you, right, But yeah, I'd rather be working
with you sorting through just life drama, the creating creating it.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, especially because the two of you have worked together
so much and have spent so much time in your
relationship together. It's a testament to truly the foundation that
you guys have. And you know, Eliza, I know you've
been a part of Quantum Leap, which people are loving,
and I'm sure that experience has been great. And you know,
Bob in Limbo is another fan favorite that people are

(22:41):
talking about. I see them. When I announced it was
my guest, people were saying, ask him about in Limbo
and Limbo's he going back? So how have other projects
outside of the hundred been for the two of you?
And will we see you working again as well together?

Speaker 3 (22:54):
I'd love that. I'd love to work together again.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
She's my absolute all time favorite scene and yeah, best friend.
The only thing that would give me pause about working
together is like both of us being away from Henry Rights.
You know, it's been an interesting journey since becoming parents
and both of us having careers and wanting to do
this job or that job.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
It's like, Okay, well one of us is going to
go away, all the other stays.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
So when I was doing and in Limbo, yeah, and
I was away for like five six months and that
was really tough, and then you were doing constantly and
so I.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Was like happy to kind of stay at home.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
So it's been a new challenge being parents, wanting to
have the careers as well as being there for the family.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, that's kind of an ongoing process and we're just
we have to take it sort of case by case,
job by job, like how's this going to work this time?
You know?

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Do you ever feel like when we were both auditioning
for stuff, but you're like, oh, I get.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
This one before Bob.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Sometimes yeah, so I get to do.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
In the next one. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
No, But I mean in terms of it would be perfect,
like if Bob got the next one, because I've just
had my time on qunstumt lyp, so I feel like
it's his turn.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
But how have you felt it going from the hundred
and then jumping on into another show?

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, I mean it was so cool to do another
sci fi I just I love it. It's weird because
I never, like, I never particularly enjoyed watching sci fi
until I started doing it, and now I'm into it.
And yeah, to go on to another sci fi show
to be able to play such a badass woman like I.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
I thought you were great in that. I was always
so excited when I know.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
He'd hit me and go, that's my that's my lady,
that's my lady. You know.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
Actually, this is what I was thinking, is that you
always wanted I feel like our positive like crossed over
and gone in the opposite ways, Like you wanted to
do romance in comedy and I just wanted to keep
doing sci fi. Yeah, and you've done sci fi and
I've done romance in comedy.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
So now we need a blend of all of them
for your next project together there you go, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, yeah, why let's put it out there.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Sci fi, romcom Yeah yeah, well, rock on it. It's
awesome to see you guys still doing different interesting projects,
and you know, I have no doubt more and more
will becoming your ways. Do you think it's hard to
take a step back with what you do and give
yourself the flowers and to say, wow, like, I'm really

(25:45):
successful in this business and a business that a lot
of people dream of being in. And it's not easy
to do let alone, you know, one show, but to
keep working and to be on a show that is
seven seasons and all the things you've accomplished, Like, do
you both realize that, like Eliza is it is it
strange for you to be like, I've done all this

(26:05):
or you kind of constantly like what's next? What's next? Oh,
my guard, I have to prove myself even more.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, there's a lot of that. I you know, it
is difficult. I think, especially since becoming parents, we've realized
how much of a gamble this industry is. You know,
when it's just you out there in your twenties hustling,
you're like, you know, you just you don't really think
about it. But now it's you know, there's a great
responsibility to provide for a family, and that has added

(26:34):
a pressure that I never really experienced before. But I do,
like you know, I journal. We both do journal every morning,
and it's a good opportunity to take a step back
and go, you know, when things feel like you know,
when you have those thoughts of I'm never going to
work again, maybe my best days are behind me, you know,

(26:55):
to just go, look what you've accomplished, and this isn't
the end. You know, you're just in a little you're
in the messy middle right now. So yeah, it can be.
You can get a little existential about the industry, especially
with you know, just the pandemic and then the strikes
and all of the things that are completely out of

(27:16):
our control. But no, we have had such an incredible
career thus far, and we know that there's plenty more
to come.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
I have to agree with that in terms of like
stopping and you know, saying you've done a good job.
I think that that's not just true of our industry,
but it's I think that's true of most people that
you know. I don't think that enough people give themselves
credit for a lot of things.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
You know.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
And recently I got nominated for an actor in Australia,
which is like kind of a big deal, and I
was like, oh, I'm not going to go to the
awards here. I mean, I don't have times now, I'm
playing it all. I was like, yeah, whatever, But like
it actually did, like really mean a lot to me.
But it always kind of been like, yeah, you know,
it's whatever, and I don't need to go. And then
I was seeing all these images of people that I

(28:03):
knew or getting together and like having a great time
celebrating celebrating yeah, and I was like, actually, it is
kind of you know, I'm not the awards, but like
it's important to celebrate these things that you've achieved or
you've done. And I don't know that people might think
like acting awards in themselves or is a bit superflul
of us, but I think at least getting around your

(28:24):
your your peers and saying hey, you know, like we're
likely to be here, congratulations, whatever it is, and just
to yeah, be that support network in an industry that
is so tough could be a nice thing. Yes, yeah,
So I'm trying to make space for being proud of
myself in that aspects, but yeah, it's not something that

(28:45):
I had thought about previously.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Well, what I love about the two of you is
you don't go through life acting like you have all
the answers, you know, everything, that you are at the
peak of your mental health, that nothing can bring you
down right. And I think that what I'm most interested
in with human to human connection is that as beautiful
as a life may seem from the outside, we all

(29:10):
still go through our own shit. And it's something that
I've gotten more comfortable sharing over the years, not fully,
but like definitely more than a few years ago. And
I think it's the day and age we live in
where mental health, man, it's a crisis. And I like
that the two of you take time to work on
your own mental health. We talked about, Bob how at

(29:30):
the end of season seven you need a time for
yourself and how you work on yourselves during your marriage.
Is there like one main thing that each of you
does to really make sure that you're in line with
your health.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, I mean I read a gratitude list every morning,
you know, and I've noticed, I've really noticed it, just
like I feel I don't know why, but saying that
is I feel embarrassed, like, well, could it a gratitude list?
That's what the voice in my head tells me. What,
you know, what could that possibly do? But I do

(30:03):
know that if I don't write that for a few
days or a week or even two weeks, I start
to feel just schoolrely, not right, like a little NQR.
And I'm like, why don't I feel good? And you know,
it's just these little things that don't that might not
seem like a big deal, that really keep me, yeah,

(30:27):
in a place of gratitude and and keep me hopeful
and happy. So my gratitude list journaling. That was something
that Bob has been doing ever since we got married,
but I only started doing it about a year ago
and making sure I do it every morning, and that

(30:48):
really keeps me in check as well. I think these
little morning rituals of like, you know, no matter what's
going on at the breakfast table, if Henry's having a tantrum, whatever,
it's like, go do your writing.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
I've got this.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
And we do that for each other every morning, and
it's just that time like Bob sages and does his
you know, he rings his bell and he has like
his little ritual and you know that sort of thing.
Just having these routines for me anyway, it's just so.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Important, I think carving out that bit of time for
yourself to kind of take a breath and kind of
set your intentions for the day.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah as well and.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Going you know, and he used today to reframe situations
that may make me feel uncomfortable or whatever. It is
just kind of having that, whether you follow it to
a teeth through other day, it's like, at least I'm
setting this intention to do this thing. Exercises another huge
part of keeping things in balance for me and to
be honest, one huge heart that I always feel a

(31:52):
bit lost when I struggled to have disability. But is daydreaming.
I love daydreaming. I love going on Zelo and daydreaming
about buying houses. And I know that it's just so stupid,
but it's just like, oh, this is fun. And I
love to day dream. And it's sad those days when
I'm like, I don't feel like day dreaming, I get
really sad.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, so I love to day dream.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Oh my god, we're like the three Kindred Spirits. I
just sent one of my best friends of video. My
husband and I were walking and we passed this beautiful
apartment complex in Manhattan. I'm not too far from where
we live, and I'm like, oh my god. This place
has a fountain. It looks like Europe. There's a courtyard.
So he pulled up zillow. We found the price and
triaked and I'm like, but you know what, we can dream?

(32:33):
And I said my friend, I'm like, one day, one day.
So yes, I subscribe to daydream all day, every day.
Why not. It's a beautiful thing. So, as you two know,
the name of the show is I've never said this before,

(32:54):
and yes, I love bringing on fan favorite artists and
diving into the work and celebrating that. But I also
love real human connection, and I cover a lot of
red carpets and movie premieeres where I get three minutes
with somebody and I'm like, all right, this, this is
fine and fun, but it's not real, Like it's not
a real conversation, which is how this show was born.
So I'm wondering, given all the interviews you've done and

(33:17):
how open you've been today, you know as well, if
there is something that the two of you have not
ever said before.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Well, yes, I was aware of the title of the show,
so I have been thinking about it, and it's kind
of a scary idea to say something that I've never
said before. But the first thing that came to mind
for me was the fact that I've never talked about
postpartum depression. And after Henry was born, I had a

(33:45):
really dark year. The insidious and bizarre thing about postpartum
is that you well, for me anyway, I really didn't
realize that I had it, so I didn't know what
was wrong with me. I didn't know how to ask
for help, and there's so much stigma about postpartum, which
is kind of infuriating because it didn't make me a

(34:07):
bad mother. It made me just a shell of myself
in you know, like when I was I could mother,
I could look after Henry efficiently. But when I was
once he'd go to bed, or when I was alone,
it got really dark. It got really dark for me

(34:30):
in the way that I didn't I didn't know who
I was anymore. I didn't feel like myself. I was
just kind of moving through life, feeling numb. And it
lasted a whole year. It wasn't until so we moved
back to Australia and Bob was working on Love Me
and in Limbo, so we moved back to be close

(34:54):
to him, but also to have family around. But it
was just bizarre that we were. You know, I was here,
I was with my beautiful baby, surrounded by my parents
and my parents in law and aunties and uncles and
brothers and sisters, and I felt so completely alone. And

(35:16):
I just wanted to put that out there and talk
about that, because you know, if there is anyone listening
who feels that way, there is help out there. There
are so many resources, There are so many free communities
on zoom online four postpartum and just even if you

(35:37):
don't know if that's what you have, just jump into
a mother's group or something where you can connect with
other mums who are going through the same thing. Because
I wish i'd done it sooner. I wish that I
had just stopped and checked in with my body and said, oh,
I'm really struggling, you know, and if this can help

(35:59):
some other mom out, like even DM me, you shouldn't
be going through this alone. I want to help. Yeah,
so I wanted to talk about that.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Well, thank you for sharing that. That's I think a
really important message. I know a lot of leadies in
my life who have gone through something similar and don't
feel comfortable talking about it. So I think you're going
to encourage a lot of people to share. And before
we get to you, Bob, as a quick follow up,
if somebody's listening and thinks, I don't know if that's me,
I mean maybe, or am I just having a bad

(36:27):
day and it's not postpartum. When you say you didn't
feel right, you didn't feel good, you had some dark days,
what did that feel like? Did you feel like you
were a bad mom? Every day or what do you
mean by that?

Speaker 2 (36:39):
I felt like I'd completely lost my identity. I felt
like I didn't know who I was anymore, And in turn,
I felt like the worst mother in the world. I
felt like I'd been wanting to be a mom my
whole life and to not be enjoying it was a
sin in some way. And it's just really, really hard

(37:02):
that your hormones are going through. One of the most
epic changes we ever experienced in our lives is giving birth.
The drop in hormones is so huge, and we just like,
I didn't have that information.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Yeah, I think for you, like because as your partner
who was there, I think you were always putting on
a breath a great face, and so I and as
a new dad, was just like swimming in like how
can I help?

Speaker 3 (37:30):
What can I do?

Speaker 4 (37:30):
And you know, having my own anxieties about being apparent.
But it wasn't until you felt like you were out
of it that you could actually speak.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
To me about it.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Yes, it wasn't, so I didn't. I wasn't really fully aware.
I just thought, well, Henry didn't sleep for a whole year,
for thirteen months, so I just thought we were just
really tired.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah, and the sleep deprivation as well, you know, plays
a big part in it. He only slept in two
hour increments for a year, so just not Yeah, we.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Were not all there, so you didn't know. You didn't
know during that whole year. So were you, Eliza? Were
you almost embarrassed to share it with him? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:10):
I really I was embarrassed. I was ashamed. I was
ashamed to be feeling anything but joy. I thought, that's
all I was supposed to be feeling. And this magical
moment in my life where I've had my first child,
and that's just not it.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
And to be fair as well, like I was struggling
with because I wanted to help and I could see that,
you know, like you have to feed him like it.
Mum is the most important mum is you know, women
are incredible and mum is the most important part of
the family. And so I was kind of struggling with
coming to grips with how can I help when Henry

(38:47):
all he wants is you What can I do to help?
And I was having my own crisis. So I think
simultaneously we're both struggling with our own stuff, and neither
of us wanted to keep.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Onto the other exactly.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
Yeah, you know, and I think, you know, that's probably
why I missed it as well, or I struggling with
my own stuff as well, you know, And it kind
of comes back to us working as a couple, you know,
when we can kind of look back at stuff. It
was only when Henry started sleeping that we'll be able
to we're able to start unpacking the year of new parenthood,

(39:21):
you know, right right, it's.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Not crazy, It really was crazy.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Well, thank you for opening up about that. I know
that's that's something very personal, and you share that today
to help the greater good. And I really respect that
and admire that in you, and I think that you're
going to help a lot of people feel less shame
and maybe embarrassment, as we've talked about, by embracing that
this could be the reality. So I appreciate you for

(39:51):
sharing that. Thank you for sharing that, And for you, Bob,
is there anything you would like to share today?

Speaker 4 (39:58):
I mean, you know, my brain kind of runs really fast,
and there was probably about like six different things that
I wanted to speak about, and I was like, maybe
something will come up when it comes to When he
asked me.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
But you know, I think there's there's something.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
That I've actually never really talked that much about, and
you and I kind of talk about a little bit.
I think my entire life, I've struggled with a form
of body dysmorphia. Like I train so much, like I
was saying, exercise a huge part of my own mental health,
and sometimes it's probably too much. And like these battles
that I have in the morning, Like let's say I

(40:33):
get up and then I work out. I'm like, you
look great, You're like, you feel great, I'm looking great,
everything like that. Then I have lunch and then I'm like,
you're a slob, You're this, You're that. I don't want
to see what I look like. I'm going to wear,
you know, like baggy shirts and go to bed in
normal clothes. And it's brutal, like the back and forth

(40:54):
of this kind of body dysmorphia, and then like the
comparison to other people and you're algorithms, Like my algorithm
on Instagram is basically just calisthenics because I do rock climbing,
and it's just like it's incessant this idea of what
I'm supposed to look like and in my entire life,
Like even when I was a teenager, Like you know,
I had an eating disorder, but I'd just be training

(41:16):
all the time and just not fueling it right and
doing this, that and the other. And it's it's I
don't you know, like I don't know the answer to it.
It's something that I have to work on and learn
to be kind to myself about.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
But you know, like I think that it comes.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
In many different forms, and there's like just trying to
find that piece within yourself like that on top of
all the other things that I have, you know, like
mood disorders and whatnot, this is.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
One that is a constant thing each day.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
It is, and you know, partly maybe because of the
industry we're in and this, that and the other, But
I don't necessarily think it is. I think a lot
of people will go through this on a day to
day basis, like and it doesn't. It's unrelenting, this kind
of perception of self. And so I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
I what I want to say to it, but I
just I guess when I.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Say that, yeah, like I think we're all going through
that struggle and it'd be just nice to give ourselves
some grace, but yeah, it is something for me.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
It's something that I've definitely witnessed a lot over the years,
obviously because it is a daily battle. But he'll be
looking like he'll literally be looking at himself in the
mirror and seeing something that isn't there, you know, and
I just go, what are you talking about? You're so
fit and beautiful.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
But I think it's even similar, like you're you know,
I'm sure you've had this experience where you're like, look
through photos from like a year ago, Yeah, I look
good there right at that time you're like not good enough.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Yeah, it's not this enough, not bad enough.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know what I want to say
to it, but it's just like, yeah, like it's a
it's a real struggle when even in your own mind,
when you look back at what you were like maybe
you know, four or five weeks ago, you're like, actually.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
That's not tooper bad. Yeah, yeah, nothing is changing those
four or five weeks. But it's like, why can't give
yourself that grisi?

Speaker 4 (43:09):
Yeah, And maybe it's some sort of plucked as you
mind Brian about that stuff, but.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Well, I appreciate you sharing that, you know, as as
another dude, because I think a men don't really talk
about that, and you know, a lot of what is
talked about is how women's bodies are so unfairly critiqued
and judged, which is true. I mean, nobody should ever
comment on a woman's body, like, get the fuck out
of here, right, Sorry I said it, But men also

(43:37):
do have to deal with it, not to that extent,
but like, you know, if you're somebody super into health
and fitness and you work on yourself like I have,
people be like, oh you look too bulky, Oh you
look too thin, Oh have you lost weight? Oh look
you're looking a little skinny, And it's like, you know,
people do comment on your bodies and let alone the
voices you have in your own head. So I think

(43:57):
it's you know, I think it's important to bring away
to the fact that, if anything, we all judge ourselves
maybe a little unfairly, and I think that we should
have a little more compassion towards one another as well
in terms of what we say about each other, because
public opinions are out there and I'm not saying you
can't have one, but like, I don't think bodies should
ever be a topic for men. Or women period. I don't.

(44:22):
And I say that in the sense of like if
you're doing a men's health workout and you're doing an
article and an interview, that's one thing, like yes, you're
celebrating fitness, you're showing your routine. But I mean like
unsolicited opinions that are negative, we don't need them.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Like I was saying, like I had like multiple things
that I could have talked about, but that one's just
kind of came to mind.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
No, And I like that one. I really like that one, Robbit.
I appreciate you bringing that one up because, like I said,
a lot of dudes don't talk about that, and a
lot of us have gone through it at different periods
of our lives and maybe still do. So I think
that it's it's an important thing for us to raise
awareness about because of what you said, is maybe that
we can be a little gentler with ourselves.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yeah, and you know, maybe there is that thing.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Maybe what I'm even just having talked about it now,
there's like sure, like you can be gentle to yourself.
I don't have to like look at myself in the
mirror and say you're slob, like we're on the path
to getting to where you you know you want to be.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
It's going to take time or whatever. Not that I
feel like and I do. I don't know. I don't
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
I know you, I know what you're saying. I hear
it loud and clear. I think. I think it's very
very cool that you shared that. And what I'm taking
away from that is exactly what I just said. Be
more gentle with yourself, have a little compassion with yourself,
like we do for so many other people. And you
know and realize that sometimes when you think it's not
good enough, it is, and it's it's a work in progress. Yeah, guys,

(45:48):
I don't want to leave like I'm having so much
fun with the two of you. I think it's flown
by I know, and I feel like I'm I'm always
full of gratitude when I walk away from a conversation. Yes,
like I said, it's fun, it's celebratory. We dive into
the projects and the work, but then we also really
get to connect on some human stuff. And I think
that's when this crazy world we live in can feel

(46:11):
a little less alone, and people can feel a little
bit more seen. And like we're all in this together.
And I honestly I thank the both of you for
being so open and vulnerable and real today and having
a great conversation. I loved it. I could talk for
four more hours and I'm so fulfilled after chatting with
you guys.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
Yeah, I think that you being such an authentic and
genuine guys. Yeah, testament to the show doing so well.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
So thanks y.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah, you're such a lot, Tommy. Just every time when
we speak, I'm like, yeah, you know, like you you are,
Just You're a lot. So thank you. Thanks for having us.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Thank you, Thank you both so much, and we will
follow along your adventures. Best place to follow along social media.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Yeah, I'm pretty bad at it.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
How do we find you guys?

Speaker 3 (46:56):
But if i'm instantly I'll let you know on social media.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah it's Oh.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
You can currently see me on in on Love Me
and in Limbo on Pulu.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah. Yeah, you can see my face on Peacock on
Quantum Leap season two.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Oh you can go back over. Yeah, we could watch
that again if you really need to see us.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah, and then otherwise we're on the in.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Stuff on the insta. All right, the two of you,
Thank you again until we meet the next time.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Yeah, Hi, thank you.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
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