Fat Joe, Jadakiss & Lola Brooke talk MASSIVE changes in last 20 years of hip hop

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by up-and-coming Brooklyn rapper Lola Brooke. Joe and Jada ask Lola about growing up in Biggie's neighborhood of Bed-Stuy, her smash hit "You" with Bryson Tiller, what it means for her to come from the lineage of New York female rappers, and growing up on LimeWire to download the latest Lil Wayne, Meek Mill, and 50 Cent tracks. Joe also tells the story behind the making of his hit "What's Luv?" and Jadakiss explains why he knew "Why?" would be huge.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
I didn't start doing music for a bag, but I
caught a bag, so I'm gonna continue to do it
for that as well.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
But Nah, I don't be in the studio LIKEO. I
gotta make a hit. I'll be in the studio lego.
I gotta get this ship off because if I don't
want to me, don't be going crazy.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
What up, y'allist is? Joe cracked the dawn?

Speaker 4 (00:30):
Your boy Jada? You know what it is that Joe
and Jada show what.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
The Mondami said Jason.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
The more he said every name he said, every.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Good Jason, that's good studio.

Speaker 5 (00:40):
I say it, yo, Brother Rolando, to rest that name
named you a hundred.

Speaker 6 (00:45):
Names and ships please, every show legendary, every show iconic.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
You know what I mean. At this point, he just crushes.
Let me just fried. But today's guests, I think of hardworking.

Speaker 7 (01:06):
You know, I've never really seen a female no police,
I me meaning she gotta. She packs a big punch
horse if you need one they if not, let it go.
Big energy. She brings, you know, a big presence. You
can tell she loves her mom. She come from a

(01:28):
good She come from some good raising of a good
mother represents Brooklyn to the fullest.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
She's connected.

Speaker 7 (01:39):
You know, she knocked, she knocked going out the park,
maybe one or two. I gotta look back at the billboards.
But she works very hard. Ladies and gentlemen giving up
a lolaup bro.

Speaker 8 (01:53):
Like that Injo that was quiet, I like, go baby,
shut out the duke.

Speaker 7 (02:00):
You know, this is what I say, hold on before
we even did you have another name, Before you was Lola,
before it was broke?

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Was it when you did this show?

Speaker 7 (02:10):
You opened up for me somewhere one time we had
to show abe that's how long she been going she
been and then work way back then.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
I like to say it was very humble.

Speaker 7 (02:23):
And when I seen you finally hit one out the park,
you know, I was proud of you. A lot of
people don't put that you was in the trenches, You
was doing shows. You was getting your name out there
early and not just waiting for Plymouth Rock and laying
on you.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
You was out there making your you know what I mean,
making your chop. So that's a good that's salute to
you to the success. Go ahead, crack now.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
I'm just saying the way you're moving is the way
I wish all the young guy rappers with moves, you
got sad, you got you got?

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Oh geez job the teen eighty I mean brother or
team what team eighty? See eighty.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
My thing is when you got the right people been
around the business for a while and they know how
to get you out of trouble.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
You know a lot of.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
These young dudes and they ain't got like, no unk,
no real O G's positive people. I can see where
they fuck up at. So I say that all the
time with it. With the young guys coming up, we
need an O G To just tell you, yo, don't
be impulsive, don't move like that. You're gonna get yourself
jammed up. Because we're getting tired of the next rapper

(03:31):
coming home from jail.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Right.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
This ship had a control right now right, one go in,
one come out, one go in, one come out. We
you know this ship has played out. But I love
your team and how you move. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Thanks for having me. I love you here. Let me
let me tell y'all. They was popping mads. They're popping
mass ship before the gum came out, Oh before the
cameras came out. They they often on the camera. They

(04:04):
the same Offen on the camera say the same.

Speaker 6 (04:09):
I'm jealous of mine, jealous gum maybe two.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I know I was supposed to have it two b.

Speaker 7 (04:19):
Twarters goes or lamb or whatever. When it was we
had to we caught a red eye home.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
They got it. Oh y dog, we had to. We
both in the first class.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
You know what I mean. He got the they didn't.
It wasn't the seats.

Speaker 7 (04:34):
That turned to a bed, I don't think, but which
she folded her body.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
She was the most comfortablest person in the dog.

Speaker 6 (04:42):
She she would have thought she was on the California.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
I walked by her, said, Damn, I wanted to get
coked this leg over this Yeah, that's just like a California.

Speaker 8 (04:56):
No.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
I was. I'm like, damn, I wanted.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
To get don't remember that ship to me one time
we took a uh but it wasn't bad.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
He just you you big do now.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
It was you were still comfortable. That haven't whenever I
had it. But it didn't look how comfortable you was.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
I was turning out on the Jeff Blue Mint to
l a mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
The man before the plane took off, This guy went
to sleep, like he's describing you when the ship name
that he got up.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
I was pissed. I'm looking at Jess sleep.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
I can't even sleep on the fucking plane like that,
I said, motherfucker knocked up rich Player too before the
ship movie. Like you know, if I played that game
taking pictures of while you're sleeping.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I have told you didn't do it like that.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
Dictionaries on rich Player he before the ship movie like that.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
That's how I be.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
I want somebody to be scared with me on the plane.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Motherfucker.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
Don't want to be scared with me here, Like yo,
every man for himself. You figure it out on.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
The flight take off if you can't recline and that
looking back the old mestard.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Yeah, they don't let you. Yeah, you gotta wait till
you get You know what's crazy. When you're private, you
could do jumping jacks by the ship. Take coss.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
Jumping jacks back, flip them, nigga, don't give a fuck.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Watch on private they be like do you want to
put your seatbel on or not?

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Like so all that ship they be running like seat up, sir,
You like seat up, sir, or make sure you're on
the air. All that shit is bullshit. No, no, na, no, no,
it's a fact. All that shit is bullshit.

Speaker 6 (06:41):
When you're on a private safe Steve Measures, that's that
ship they're gonna have come, man.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
Raoul Recipes was not afraid to fly. When that ship
was landing, the more turbulent he be in the front
with the pilots like, yeah, look how he's kurt, Like
I'll be like yo, And you know at that time
you're supposed to be super stracked like it's bullshit.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
All them rules and all that shit is bullshit man.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
And bullshit. Yeah you don't like the rules.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
He never did.

Speaker 7 (07:10):
Puene's is safe, man, don't play with it. Do you
think that was a did you know that was out
of the park or you had to work it? We
always got to work every sangree, you know what I mean,
gott to do a bunch of shit you don't want
to do, and everything's savvying them tell you to do,
and radio stations and DJs.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
And all that.

Speaker 7 (07:28):
But when it got when you know it was one
of them ones.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
I did that fail for you?

Speaker 1 (07:34):
I ain't gonna front. Just recently I just start realizing
like I had a hit.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I didn't feel it I've been working for so long,
Like I've been raised by my mom.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
She a hard working black woman.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
All I know is to work hard, and I don't
rewot myself because it's like it's things that you're supposed
to do, so when don't play with it pop, I
was just excited because you know, as an artist, when
you feeling neglected and you're not getting attention that you
feel like you're supposed to get, when you finally get
it and go over your head, you know.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
The wack part about this business is when you get one,
they're working you so much, so you can't even go
to your normal spot that you would go to and
look at everybody fucking with your shit.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
You like, you don't even get that.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
You gotta lean back Number one Moatherfucker's like y'all flex
played it four hundred times. I'm in fucking Denver, Colorado
performance somewhere like raight.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
You do not get to enjoy unless you're one of
them dudes.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
You don't even fuck about a dollar, You don't care
about nothing. You could sit there and be like, all right,
my shit popping, But when you get a hit, it's
always like Look, it ain't never been. Look you're hard,
hard working, that's one thing we gotta say about you.
But let me tell you it never changed. You know
now even in the game. I've been in the game

(08:53):
thirty years. It's still don't change. You got us that actor,
enjoy your fruits of labors. That shit don't work like that. Like, Yo,
what's the next Where we gotta go, what we gotta do,
what we gotta conquer while we gotta You know, this
ship don't never especially where I don't know your finances.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
You know you grew up with your moms and your pops.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
No this my mom damn.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
So you know you.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Trying to I'm just trying to pay, like you know what.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
Generationally, I never had nobody before me make money like me.
You could probably look at my family tree a hundred years.
Everybody been on warfare for a hundred years. So I'm general.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
I just I dropped my section eight.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
When I popped, I'm like, oh, I can leave section
eight now my mom's passed down the section.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
I still got money. You're a liar.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I wish I could have kept my as I was
looking for somebody to hold it down for you.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
Hear me how much I tell you about my section eight.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
You know you can't say that.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
He makes you look crazy with you look, but he
don't disrespect section eight.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
You know how hard it is they play with my ship.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
I got cousins in section eight. They know how to
play that game.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
That ship is not easy. I don't play about it.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
I feel the same way the heart for like a
month or something.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
I feel the same way about my hard drives as my.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Section neat as you should holding it on.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
I was holding it down for a minute, but I
ain't have no way to pass it down to I'm
lonely child.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
I'm lonely child. Suits. I was trying to pass it down.
She's trying to pass it down. The second was that me.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Listen to me, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
Fuck the section out.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
I'm trying to explain something.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
You you think if jay Z wanted to stay on
section eight, he would ever be a billionaire ever on
a building like this.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
That whole ship is a gimmick.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Gasp.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
I was going for a billionaire status, which section eight?

Speaker 9 (10:51):
Nigga, I got nothing to do what he did. I'm
trying it. I dig calling you full of ship man.
Put on the first slave man for my Section.

Speaker 6 (11:01):
Eight people in the comments get them fad. Let me
tell you ya strong by sex. I'm sectioned.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
They ain't let me finish my statement.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
If you need it, your single parent, moms, or whatever
type of struggle you're going through, I'm not knocking you.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
I grew up on.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
Welfare, Section eight, free cheese, free lunch, everything. Nobody was
fucking bummier than me. I said all the time. But
what I'm trying to tell you is that that system
is a trap and it's really no disrespect, but it's
really not a flex. When you go to a building
and you be like, yo, the Washington's been here for

(11:41):
forty years and this man, we got to get about
that shit. That shit is meant to be temporary because
they put you to a limit. If you on Section eight,
to you on that you can't make enough money to
do what you want to do. So basically what they
do is they control you from competing for the jobs
to own ship they do.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
That's why my mom Roger.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
My mom was like heavy on, like don't this is
this is for you to move forward to get you to.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
That's it us right now.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
But he's smart. If you need Section eight.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
God blessed because everything you name, nobody been on welfare
more than me.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
But they see it ain't coming. It goes up.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
Sorry, old watch your moms ay't have a man in
the house because she couldn't. Just when they help you,
they say they don't want you to have a man.
All right, I'm telling you the truth.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
My mom, My.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Mom's ain't wanted.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
My moms ain't want no nigga in the cray not
because it's section eight.

Speaker 5 (12:47):
This is not about our mom.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Break my mom's up. Man with my mom watched this.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
Son, apologished know what I'm talking about. They masculate the
home in the projects. They don't want the woman to
have a man in the project. They don't want a
man and a woman in the projects.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
They don't want it.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Man.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
I'm trying to tell you the truth.

Speaker 10 (13:13):
It's a given.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
Like if you got a husband, they don't want you
in the projects. If you're doing better at the you
gotta raise it's salary. They don't want you in the projects,
so they want to keep you level.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
You shouldn't be in the project thinking a party that
I'm not just the one breaking I'm breaking.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Its breaking through.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
How you got hooked up with teammate.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
It was like, twenty sixteen, is this artist he from
Browns with his name Lizzy DoD He asked me to
do a feature. I came through, met everybody just to
do a feature, just working and they court a liking
to me, and my court a liking to them. I
just was around watching them do music videos. I've never
done the music video before, go on not working records

(14:01):
at the clubs, get maned to do content and stuff
like that, and I fell in love with it. Like
I always was in love with music, but to be
around people that I felt like was in love with
the same thing, it made me want to lock in
with them.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
You know how how you feel about coming from some
such a strong lineage in New York City of female
rappers who really.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Started you know.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
I mean we had rappers from all over, but you
know that came that Fox. He They both from Brooklyn,
so you get compared to im all the same.

Speaker 7 (14:37):
When I saw a ship was lit Savannah and the
little daughter was doing the guy, I said, oh yeah,
that ship.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Listen.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
Let me tell you I try to I try to
rig it. One time I reached out to Kim Kardashian.
I asked, did you want to say yesterday's price, not today?
I try to rig the Bible. I try to rig
it. It be like once some Kardashians and one of them
Savannahs and one of them coming next day is over,
give me a calendar that they don't want us to wear.
Justin Bieber went on that jet that that's what happens.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Sad.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
The next day, Justin Bieber went on that jay. He said,
they don't want us on the plane. They don't want
us to eat caviard ands shit that ship wish Oh
you get one of them to do that.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
You wake up like, holy shit, this ship out of here.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
But coming back from a foxy Kim, did they inspire you?

Speaker 11 (15:36):
Do?

Speaker 5 (15:37):
You know you have a lot of weight on your shoulders.
Tapping into that saw you.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
At first it felt like Prussian, But I'm from Brooklyn,
Like it's in me, not on me.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Look to the.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Prussia, like like coming from where I come from, it's
only Prussia if you allow it to be Like, if
this is something that you love to do.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
It shouldn't be a hard thing to get done. But
I am happy that Huh.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Which one of the two and inspired you more.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Foxy, I will say, I would say both.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
I would say both because I felt like Foxy has
her tone. It's just so it's so powerful, and Kim
Presents is powerful, and they always compare me to both,
so I'd be like, I guess I'm like half and half,
like I'm an, I'm eliminated icy, I'm half and half.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
Well damn saying they both love Helloa Palmer, they both
loved Joe Crack.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
I remember one time I must did an interview where
I might have said something that might have got Foxy
Brown mad at me. I don't even know what I say.
I talked so much shit you could forget about it.
She and me and the d M say, Yo crack,
I knew where YO cracked at. I was like, I know,
I fucked up. I don't I will never do it again.

(16:56):
Since I was on her first record at first, Soul.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Cool Jays, I shot you and she came up in
there with the this.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
I was like, you know, we ain't never see somebody
with that type of swag and she was with ball
deep on there. Keith Bury was the hottest at the time,
by the way, very underrated. Keith Mary Keith marry his
flows all that ship he had it at one time. Right,
she was with us, you know Lal who was like

(17:30):
the king at that time, the Dawn, and she came
on that ship and we knew the minute we saw
on that set doing all that ship.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
We was like, oh no, she was about Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
You know, Brooklyn too big for me. Yeah, Brooklyn too big.
It's like you could drive in Brooklyn for hours. Like, right,
you ever noticed the ship? Don't run out like you
go with Brooklyn. No run now, I'm not disrespecting Brooklyn.
It is big as fuck. If you're not from Brooklyn,

(18:07):
you are very lost.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Now.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
I remember I used to go with my man's to
bout weed out there. They have one particular spot that
was popping somewhere. But I mean, like, I could never
find that ship. So you got East New York's all
the way.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
On the other.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Side, it's nothing bigger than traveling from Brooklyn to the Bronx.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
I get that the Bronx is much smaller than Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
That alone is bigger in Brooklyn.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Yo, that Brooklyn shit, man, I don't be knowing where
I'm at. You know, all the time when the plane
landing in JFK. I look out the window at Brooklyn.
I'll be like, yo, I really need to know because
in the Bronx Harlem A, I know every single block.
I haven't discovered every single block. And brook this ship
just keep going. And then it turned it in the

(18:58):
flight books. The next way you are flat Bush, the
next way you this. Then you got Jews right next
to the black dudes across the street.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
This ship different from the whole world.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
Brooklyn really is spikely me calling that ship like another planet,
like a number. It is.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
It is you on this side of the street.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
The next side that Bankers is the horsetic Jewels they
out there.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
It is deep.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
It truly is, Joe.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
It is right that ship biggest fuck man. And so
coming from Brooklyn, what brought of Brooklyn?

Speaker 4 (19:31):
Exactly? You from?

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Are you from best Stye?

Speaker 4 (19:35):
That's deep deep?

Speaker 1 (19:37):
No, as soon as you're getting Brooklyn, Oh you.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Mean like where Biggie's from.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
I used to go see Biggie the US right there,
that's right there, that's right over there is been out
that used to go see Biggie out there. Man, Best
Stide is good. But where you go, where you where
you go, you go Crown Heights. Then you go up,
give me another name in there. No, Cody Island is

(20:04):
that end. I was in Coney Island the other day
and that bought that diner. We went to JFK too early,
and I was like, yo, let's go to the diner.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
We went to that Coney Island diner over there.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
I know, like they got their own like cook. That's
not like when I used to go to I.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Thought I didn't even know I was still in Brooklyn
growing up, like I thought I was somewhere else.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
Your fall right, shout out five mics and everybody out there.
I used to go with Steph on Marlbury. If you
don't know who that is. He was King of New
York at one time. The basketball I.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Don't know he was.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
He was a Lincoln Ring.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Yeah, you know he was graded ship. I know.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
I go with Steph on Maulberry because you know we
had old Oh geez, I don't.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
I don't know give a fuck what you think. She
from a whole different.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Generation Brooklyn, Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
But I study I study it.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
I mean if I used to go see step out
there and he had like ten family members in one
project building the niggas is on every flo.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Let's see miss may Let's see this district like they had.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
The whole building. Bro Sebastian Telfair.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
That's why I got mad when he tried to play
against us, the black Eyed. We fed that boy for chicken,
wing French fries many a time out there and con
Coney Island.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Man, that ship. That's I tell people all the time.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
That's my if I go dead, Brooke, I'm good with
four chicken with French fries, I sauce.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Some galls argue with you. You know about mumbo sauce, lady,
Huh you know about mumbo sauce.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Mumbo sauce.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, you don't know about that.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
No, what's that?

Speaker 1 (21:45):
I got to come to the sky and get mumbo sauce.
So you have French fries.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
So what is it like? It sounds like mayonnaise and ketchup.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
No, no, no, no, I don't.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I don't rock with mayonnaise. Me and mayonnaise. We don't.
You don't get along?

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Come calis other than the okay, don't play with me, man.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
Not to sound like as a Chinese restaurant that s
come counts Chinese?

Speaker 6 (22:09):
Man?

Speaker 3 (22:09):
You eat the character ship before. I don't know what I.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Think cold Port opened it.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
It's a good Chinese spot, but it's like a Chinese
the different part of Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
That's Kiln on that side.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Hey, playing trivial in Brooklyn, Trilla, I'm lost.

Speaker 6 (22:38):
He really is thought demographic.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
I am lost in Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
It is very I don't sell lost.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
Pause that ship deep. That ship won't stop you going
the back. Let you go from the fucking arm what
you call that ship? You go from all Box please,
that's that main street at the back. You go from
the Barkley about You bought the Long Island on that ship, right?

(23:13):
You passed all white castles on that ship.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Yo, white on that ship. What the hecks? You love that?

Speaker 3 (23:24):
You go to the Barkleys.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
You take that one street at the backs, the four
white castle.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Four white castles.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
That's how I know we getting to the end by
the time you hit the fourth white castle.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
I went to these projects. They had a kid.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
They had a fucking a basketball game, the championship in
these projects in Brooklyn. Chris gott he sent me in there.
Thank god, we had the yards. This ship was like, Yo,
it was like the colle Sealm. You gotta Park in
the middle of the project. You gotta walk into they know,
touching the surface to saw you and then leaving. Chris,

(24:02):
you gotta tell me what the projects was. And they
were playing the chip. They had hookerh they were selling hooker.
What's the ship they call the fucking all that crackte Gurst.
They got the girls from Starlet selling hookers and not
this ship.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Out of control. They got a popcorn standing there.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
But it really felt like how we're getting out this
bitch off?

Speaker 4 (24:27):
If it just.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
That was East New York. So when you start from
Fort Green going over there.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
It's deep. That's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Ain't jamming me up?

Speaker 5 (24:43):
You know me I taught. I taught my wife. I
never do the same ship twice. So when I go
to my house every night, I'll go down the right,
to the left, go a little further.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
I did that in the Projects.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
I come out through the basement one day to go
to school, I come out through the front, I go
out through the REMP building. I switch my shit up
every day. You ain't timing me like that. You don't
go like that. Right So in there, Nick, he's gonna
have to get the shooting because there ain't no normal
way to get out of them GIRs projects. I'm telling you,
are you jammed up? The parking lot is in the

(25:20):
middle of the projects. If they close that shit.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
Up, good luck.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
You gotta do what you gotta do to get the
fuck out from projects.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
That's a fact, Mundo.

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Speaker 4 (27:22):
Man, I saw you in our Paris.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
Remember we did Paris together, the Jordan, the Jordan's joints.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Seen you out there in Paris.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
I was proud of you, Thank you, And you know
what's crazy, We don't get enough time to tell you
and everybody else, whether you young, you know og you
know in this game. Yeah, it's a competitive game, but
were happy for everybody and everybody's just we got like
an Alma Model recipece fat man school outside like we.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
We took a beating, you know we used to.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
You know, I hung out with him. No kiss, what's
the matter?

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Man, go to the.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Real because it's a family.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
Gee, his brother sitting in my face? You think I can't.
That's all I could think about. This is my brother
fat Bey in school.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
I hung out with him.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
We ain't breakfast, right, we had a show in in
in Europe. We ain't breakfast together. That guy was so
happy he had a gun collection, right. He kept bragging
to me, Joe, here are twelve comes with us. I'm like, what, yo,
no legal legal. But he was such a positive dude

(28:32):
my whole life. But he was talking to me about
guns last time. He's like, yo, I can't get back.
I can't wait to get back. I'm gonna go buy
this new ship with a scope on it.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
This.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
I'm like, yo, fat miss cool, like you buying guns
at a mile a minute. But he loved it, right,
you know, what.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
A beautiful soul.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
Bro huh he was gonna claps so well. You know
that's what I say in this show, Jaden wants to
kill me. I say, yo, listen, if you have a son,
if you have a son that love guns, and you
live in New York where it's two years, no matter what,
I don't give a fuck what kind of money you got.
Lil Wayne sat two years for the gun. I don't

(29:16):
care how much money you got here, Johnny cockquit. Nobody
could get you out. If your son loved guns, take
them to Atlanta, take them to Connecticut, take them to Pennsylvania.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Take us some let them got the guns. They're gonna
kill them. You making it? You saying this solution. If
your son is gun Delairo, take them somewhere where the
wild wild West. You you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
There's kids that love guns.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
They get caught with three guns before they blink in
New York City and they doing real time.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
I mean this might sound crazy, right, I had to
finish for them, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Something click to me that it wasn't cool. It's like
the kid's gonna get it, you know what I'm saying.
Like I'm seeing stuff like I'm just talking about you
raise your know. I'm saying though, when you raise your
kids right after a while, they get it, they get it,
it'll click. It'd be so random too. You're just a

(30:15):
lot of things clicked for me. Like growing up in Brooklyn,
I was around the wrong crowd.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
But sometimes I go home and I'd be like, yo,
that ship was so weack, Like why did I that was?
That was point because it was corny because I knew
at home my moms made it safe. It was I
felt safe then, So it was like, why I'm going
outside doing all this extra ship when I got a
hallwiging moms that make sure the home for like home.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
I can't take that for click your son crazy.

Speaker 6 (30:43):
Send your kids to all these in a gun steak
and let the let them get all the guns they
want it in solution.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Okay, listen to America, know, listen to America. Here here
my logic, my logic.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
Kids.

Speaker 5 (30:59):
I got a lot of friends that their kids like guns.
You in America and certain states have the right to
bear arms. Before your kid is a three time felon
by the time of nineteen because he loves guns. Man,
you went to jail for the habit before you go
do that. Move to a state where it's legal and

(31:21):
let them do it the right way. Otherwise, I know
what I'm talking about. Guys, play if you want, and
you'll be going to see your son of state in
no time.

Speaker 12 (31:31):
That shit fix me, ain't. I think you just pray,
just pray, just pray. Prayer help you you. You're into
prayer and God it, Yeah, I pray big time, pray.
I'll pray last night, I always pray. I'll pray every

(31:53):
I pray everywhere.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Let me tell you my prayers on a plane, because
you know I'm scared to fly. I see myself while
I'm praying in a white suit talking the millions of God.
Please the dog next to me doesn't want to die
right now. God give these pilots the knowledge. Oh yo,

(32:17):
if they are no, I'm certified pussy. If they if
they take my prayers in my mind on the plane,
or they like, oh this guy's pussy. He can never
act tough from his life. This guy like, I I
pray too hard. The record with Bryson Tiller, okay, sad
what you wanted it to do? Or that record with

(32:40):
the Super Smash did the record label, throw the proper
bag behind that.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
That's my ship, you know, yoe.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Man, that's would go don't play with it went platinum,
But I gotta yet, I gotta plat.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
After this is it's gonna go plat.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
It's gonna go plat.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
See I was we bring him for you.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
Not only was the record of smash, but I don't
know if you know, we discovered Bryson Tiller and I
happen to know the man just don't work with anybody.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
No, he don't care. He don't care about your bag.
He don't care who you are. That's fact.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
And when that man jumped on the track with you,
to me, being a hip hop as historian, it was
a super validation because he don't fuck with nobody no matter.
We don't even post a picture on ig So that
ship is so fire. The record is fired.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
Yah. And then he rocked with you.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
You know that get the other you know you might
catch a taller the creator next time somebody who don't
really rock with people is like, oh see somebody we
need to take syr.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
So I'm glad you because I got some records.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
I did that. I thought, you know the reason why,
I truly went independent. Was I dropped the record with
young Jeezy? Yo, what was it? Ha ha?

Speaker 3 (34:03):
So thatwn Son you killing them?

Speaker 4 (34:06):
To me?

Speaker 5 (34:06):
That was a lean back, Like I thought that aw
some crazy to that beat? You rock to that and
ha ha. Let me tell you something. We shot the
video hall and we did the movie.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Jeez.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
I was like, this shit out of here, like the
phone course, I was getting what fake phone calls from
the industry.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
You're back, yo, it's a lean back.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
It's something I was hype and the record label I
know for a fact they didn't push that shit. And
that's when I said, you know why you guys ain't
doing this.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
To me no more.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
I'm going independent, putting my own bag up.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
I'm not coming over here begging somebody to push my
shit or whatever the case may be. That song changed
my life because that's one song to this take.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
If I'm sitting in the club.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
With you and they play it, it bothers me. When
I hear it, I'm like, this shit was supposed to
be out of here. This shit was a missile. This
shit you see the Savannah. When that song came out
the next day, Lebron was doing the little dance to
the ship too, Like I was like, oh no, this
we got one, and they didn't push it, and they
was acting like, nah got you, we do it.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
You know.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
That's that forced me to go independent.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
But you're correct, no matter what you do, if you
put out a hit, they went the second lean back
I put out lean Back. I think the next song
I put out was making Rain. The ship went full
platinum and Nick Niggas is still like this saint lean back, Yo.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
They was dead ass.

Speaker 5 (35:35):
Oh no, you gotta do it together, then again, then again,
then again, then again and then again.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
And that's why when I look at certain artists that
put it.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
Out the park consistently, that's when I'd be like, man,
because you know, one hit is a miracle. One hit,
it's a mirror. I always say, they talk about one
hit wonders. I always say, yo, motherfucker, lift this dream
one hit with my man gold over.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
My plats, go the bomb.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Watch that on in our thoughts, go there on that.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Man.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
I seen him on the red carpet. I see him
take pictures with everybody you ever loved. I see them
live a life. So when somebody here hit it out
the park one time, it's a dream coat you. But
the consistently you know, you hit it. You know in
our eras in Nelly, it's a fifty cents job. Rule
is these guys kept coming and coming and coming with

(36:31):
hits and hits, hits nits, and you have to respect
him when you're in the business and making hits, because
what when do you know you gotta hit? Do you
know when you gotta hit?

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Well, now I do. You would feel it? People treat
you different.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
You know what I mean in the studio you create
a song, you that I don't know. Music for me
is a lifestyle. I'm making music because it's making me
feel good. I do music because it speaks for me,
like I do music because it's therapeutic.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
I didn't start doing music for bag, but I caught
a bag, so I'm gonna continue to do it for
that as well.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
But Nah, I don't be in the studio like you
I gotta make a hit.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
I'll be in a studio like I gotta get this
ship off, because if I don't want me, don't be
going crazy like that.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
Like E a song's sight, you knew you what what
songs you knew? Jada, you had hit it?

Speaker 5 (37:24):
Go thank you LORDA thank you God, bless if God Savior.
With this guy here, he's just snap. He be killing
me every show and I go home. I watched replay.
I'm like, Yo, this figure sniping me.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
I want to I don't even know he killing me
like that. When what song you had that you knew
this is a hit before it came out?

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Me and the studio you recorded why mmm?

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Was so incredible. Brother, that was a different type of
hit man.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
It was perfect. That was God talking like you know
what I'm saying. It was so different. It was it
was necessary to this days necessary Anthony Hamilton, What made
you think of him?

Speaker 4 (38:12):
For the hook?

Speaker 7 (38:13):
Shut out to my man, rest in peace, ice Pick.
We just doing you know, once we got it, once
we got the song, shout out the Havoc too for
doing the beat. And once we got it, they know
that we already knew. We knew we wanted to get somebody.
We were big fans. We are big fans of Anthony Admilton.
So it was just the beat was perfect for him.

(38:36):
And once we told him the concept and he heard
the verses, the verses before the hook, so once he
heard it, he was he had the hook and did
that's your fact he made the hook.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
Yeah m hm.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
So he was like, wow.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
Hee sweat came up here. Guesswet came up here and said, Uh,
what's that shit called southern? Uh, there's a name for that,
that kind of music, Southern something Old John I never
heard he.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Made that.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
We might have invented.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
He invented that, right, mum, Southern something southern and so
southern soul.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
That he said it ain't gonna be. It ain't distance.
They got his own name.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Huh.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
Listen when I when you know I'm in the house,
my phone ring, It's like four in the morning.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
I got the house phone. I'm laying in the bag.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
Yo, Joe, come into here factory. I'm like, who's this?
How you got my house? And he was like, reserve
got he come into here factories four in the morning.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
I said, got something for you. I only met him
one time before that.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
We both booked the same studio and we talked shipped
to like seven in the morning.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
No work got done.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
We were just telling stories, and I realized, I said, Yo,
this Ninka just liked me like he got the stories.
Fact herv Gotti. He got the stories. So we going
back to backstories. He must have liked three Pun dies right,
rest in peace. Ja Ruh comes to the funeral. I
never even met Ja ru before that. He came in
the funeral and I was like, it's a good man.

(40:23):
But anyway, like a month after Gun dies, he calls
me out of nowhere and you want to talk about pressure.
They were like, you know, Pun was so much better
than me. They was like, oh, this nigga threw like
hone is the king. Joe is a bum. Now Joe
is over for him. He's like, I mean literally in
my face. They were saying this shit right. So when

(40:43):
I went there and they just pressed play and the
Hit Factory gift, Like, I ain't gonna lie to you.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
I don't give a fuck what you think.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
I never spent money like that on the studio, Like
my studios was always underground, small students. I never spent
the five thousand the night Hit Factory like, I wouldn't
do that. That's one thing I wouldn't spend on. They
had different speakers. That shit came on through No, no, no,
it was like what's love. I knew immediately I said,

(41:12):
oh shit, this ship out of here, like this is
shit is gone, and so what's crazy? After the earth died,
I asked my wife because she was dead with me,
and I asked her. I said, Yo, what I never
asked tough, because you know, I'm always caring about what
I think. I said, what did you think that night?
When we drove home, she said, I knew our life

(41:32):
had changed forever.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
And she when she.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
Heard one Love one time, she was like, she said,
I always loved derv God.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Because of that, she was like, I knew it.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
Driving back to the Bronx, she was like, oh no,
this ship, this shit over is about to be a
new day.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
But you know, when you know you got that hit.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
See back then it was so different, like the substance
was so raw. Now it's like there's no such thing
as you know, what's the hit.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
It'd be like.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
The random stuff being a hit now.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
So it's hard. It's like we in a way of
spacebook music.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
Here you are.

Speaker 5 (42:06):
But if you keep it consistent, nothing Yeah, nothing changes.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
You know.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
I love what you said without you knowing, you answered
that question so beautiful where you was like, Yo, it
ain't about to hit.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
I gotta get this off.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
That's really that's Areeka Franklin that's all the greats that
we could call. They just Anthony Hamilton. He just sunk
from the soul this and that, and then people related
to it right right, you know what I mean. So
that's really where music is. That you feel like you
talking your shit. You you and people could relate. That's

(42:43):
powerful right there. That never changes.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Your HiT's come from great energy. Well, it's a room
full of energy. Is a hit is guarantee going to
be made?

Speaker 4 (42:52):
For sure? You know. It's so funny. I went to
a show one time and it was just crowded. Who
was it? I think Gumbo through some shit in Jersesey.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
And here I'm going up the stairs and there's a
bunch of big guys and there's a girl flying in
the air past me going down the stairs. And that's
how I knew how little you was. It was so
crowded there y'all was carrying her out. The motherfucker. I'm like, Yo,
this ship great, I'm looking up the own ship that
little lolla crook.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
It'd be so much people. We need your help.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
They carry you out of this ship.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
That's when it comes to handy. They can just left
you up and slide you over.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
The yeah, like take me, what's.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Your process, studio? What you need? What's your what's esentil?

Speaker 2 (43:37):
I so boom, I need some h two O, I
need some water. I need honey and tea. I go
front neath the keyl you know what I'm saying. You
know the You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
I need.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Whoko A good engineer. I don't to keep tapping him
on his shoulder, not doing that. Get it right and
good good vibes. Of course, some grubs, you.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Know, brugs.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
You know what's crazy is we was just talking off
the camera like you said it'd be some good shit, saying.
Fever was selling me that Tupac one time. There's a
video of he telling the engineer, you know, my job
is to record. I leave you mixed that ship. I
don't know what to do with that. That's you. You
get that shot.

Speaker 7 (44:27):
If I even stay there for the mix. He layers
versus and tough he out make sure it's good.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
That was ill Joe. That was I gotta hear it.
I gotta hear this ship man.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
That boy Scott started send me back, lean back like
I got a demo.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
I'm demo whited.

Speaker 5 (44:42):
I know it hit I'm a little bit, and I
noticed you're not the first artist. That more artists come
here saying they didn't know what was a hit. I
always knew what was a hit. So when I left
Lean Back, I knew that ship was number one. He
sent back to mix and had like a cow bell woman.
I was like, Yo, mommy, who the fuck told you
to throw him down.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
On that fit?

Speaker 5 (45:04):
Take that shit crack? We could just take it out.
You get into it, saying I'm like, fuck out of here.
I'm like, I'm definitely one of those. If it ain't broke,
don't fix me.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Hear it? The shit?

Speaker 5 (45:14):
You know your man Kendrick Lamar. They said that when
he did, they not like us. They ain't even mix
that shit.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
He said.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
He was like, Yo, get that shit out now. Thirty
minutes later he was like, yo, I want that shit out.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
Like he didn't.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
They didn't even professionally mix. They not like us.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
It was just like, YO, do a random little two
tracks out, you know, And so you know me, I'm
into mixes.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
I fucked up one time, man.

Speaker 5 (45:41):
I had jay Z on this record we had on
Family Times projects. Jay Z spit the verse and we
looking for the mixture of the year, all this bullshit cooling,
Dre Jason, Joshuah gotta get back from potties this that
they was playing and the man they called back about

(46:03):
three four days later. It was like, yo, you can't
drop that verse now because he was like getting that
like certain people at the time.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
They was like, y'all can't put that out this.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
I was like, Nigga, I fucking told you to get
that ship, the funt mask the flex in twenty minutes.
Now we're sitting on the jay Z verse we can
never use in our life.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
You know, sometimes can't go. You gotta go, you gotta run.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Gus how I recorded my last project, I did, I
bet like I have a scratch off and I just
I just go. So whatever I say, I'm looking at
the engineer, like keep that ship because you might not
get that moment though.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
We just fucking heard that about. Tupac used to say
the same shit, be like, yo, I ain't raising none.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
He go over there, rock.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Here, you be talking shit put an intro.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
That's crazy, not us, they not even me.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
I probably would be like that, but they forced with
these guys want perfection.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
These guys. He's cool and Drake.

Speaker 5 (47:05):
I'm probably the only old school rapper that they may
do it one hundred times to the verse is picture perfect,
Like they abused me in that studio.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
Nah, not like that, Joe. Uh just it.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
To this day they still like coach me like yo, Joe,
like humhm you know because me. I you know, if
I had a dream come true, I would go to
Nebraska some shit and make my own album and they
to be some shit about God, some about flowers, some
about killing, some about they weren't fat Joe the gangster

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at all times.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
They'd be like, fuck that gangster shit.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
That's easy shit, Nah Joe. The niggas want to hear
you spit. And I'd be like, every time I try
to be a nice guy on the record, they all
allow us.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
The song pain, do you use? Mjay?

Speaker 3 (48:02):
She was excited about that, by the way, I love Mary.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
I was excited. I was excuse she loved.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
You like by a lot of the way behind the scenes, Yeah,
I love so much.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
She's just like, yah, I cleared this.

Speaker 5 (48:15):
She I'm like and then getting no little brooks are
like this that what made you use that sample?

Speaker 4 (48:23):
And the title pain?

Speaker 2 (48:26):
When you think of Mary j Pain is the first
the first word that came to my mom, Like, I
didn't see my moms get through her day listening to
Mary j You know what I'm saying, I didn't see
my mom stressed out.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
She put on Mary Jane. She could clean a whole house.
That's what she was in my household. My mom's what
Mary j was on. Dude.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
I said, Oh, I got to get up and clean
my room or she's gonna be rating on me so pain.
With that record, I feel like she liked no more Pain,
and I'm like, this is the new generation.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
No more pain.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
I learned from you too, Like my mom made sure
of that. It's no more pain, and we're standing on
that as black women. I'm standing on that. I'm not
going through it like I see my moms go through it.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
I'm straight. So I was excited that she cleared it
because it meant something to me.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
Who was rocking because there's a generational gap. And I
could tell you my mother and my aunts. They was
just one song. I don't know if you know, you
way too young, but they were singing now Wilson Oh.
And I was a kid. I didn't know what they
was really singing. And they would sing this ship.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Wait how it goes?

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Wis?

Speaker 4 (49:34):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (49:35):
No, no, no, walk out the doll?

Speaker 4 (49:37):
Who's that?

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Gloria Gainers?

Speaker 5 (49:40):
It turned around now because you not walk them. Many
ot be in front of the building we live in
the fifth floor in the projects. They'd be singing that
shit and you kid outside like you know that's that
cleaning the house?

Speaker 4 (49:54):
And Mary? Was that for you? Right? Who are?

Speaker 5 (49:57):
Some artists did were very inspirational to you in your
age group Who is rocking? When you was like, yo,
I think I want to be a rap? Like who
is like on Fire?

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Lil Wayne Nick mil fIF. It was a time where
I would have Lil Wayne.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
I would be on long Wire and it'd be nine,
but Lil Wayne on my op ed my iPod.

Speaker 5 (50:22):
Well, I just met a little a young brother from
New Orleans. What his name Leezie or something? A rapper.
He was up there, LOUISEI the man. I was telling
him that Neil Wayne taught me how to work fast.
So I come from an I come from way back
generation where rappers would do an album I don't give
a fuck if it was number one, and they would

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wait four years to drop that was it. They would
wait sit home for two years and then all right,
it's four years to drop the next one. We didn't
have that work effort. But Lil Wayne when he moved
to Miami after Katrina and I used to go visit
him in the studio and every night he was cutting records.
He was cutting records. So he taught me, by Yo, Joe,

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if you want to be relevant in this generation, you
gotta keep working and working and working. And so he
taught me about being in the studio every night. Solila
Wayne meet Mail fifty said that that's what was ringing
off of.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
That that may mail that that shit ain't never gonna stop.
That's like that should be in the museum. What's that shit?

Speaker 5 (51:24):
When they take your ship and they put it in Like, no,
they got some shit where they put it in the
Washington d C?

Speaker 3 (51:31):
What is that library or Congress?

Speaker 4 (51:33):
James?

Speaker 5 (51:34):
You got to ask the one white guy on set,
Yo James, what is that like? Is that the Library
of Congress? Dat ro I'm like this, No, I'm like this.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
The hunger for me would meet It was the hunger.
He made me feel like you shouldn't be shot to
speak about your truth. Whatever you're going through, your reality.
You can put it in your music, no matter if
it's embarrassed and the not. Like if you cried today
telling crowd today, Wayne, I learned cunch lines. I listened
to Cannon back to back, figuring out what he was,

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what he meant by his lyrics and fifty it was
just so New York.

Speaker 5 (52:13):
Wayne is different, right, So Wayne his flow pack because
he from the South and the Southern rappers used different flows.
But then he started rapping over New York beats, but
he was hitting them flows. He was dumbing out like
I was just like, oh shit, we didn't know people

(52:34):
could do that.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
I remember one one record I don't know the name.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
Every time bringing up, everybody act like they don't know
what I'm talking about, but it was he rapped to
a jay Z record, And let me tell you something.
Jay Z bodied that ship to begin with, and that
man went up in there so much you got and
that man, little Wayne was doing all this back. He
was doing that Jameroqui on that ship remember Jamariquaid video.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
He was going in the treadmill backwards like this shit.
Little Wayne was doing it that shit.

Speaker 5 (53:02):
It was like AI, we had never heard nobody flow
Asta and jay Z body that.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
And then he went up in there. It was like
and that's when I knew.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
I said, oh we got we got a new leader
of the new school. This guy he on.

Speaker 5 (53:18):
Another lettl another level, Lil Wayne, one of the best
guys you're loving meet, you know on Earth.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
So where you want to go from here? Lola?

Speaker 5 (53:26):
You have some success, You got platinum, gold plaques. What
do you want to do at the end of the
day when you want to look at your career ten
years from now, fifteen years from now, what's your vision
of success.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Being on the movie screens, having my own show? That's
what I wanted.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
Shout out to Leanna Taylor. She hit me four times today,
you know.

Speaker 5 (53:54):
Yeah, you know, see she got a sneaker coming out,
so she wanted to you know, you crack.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
You know what I'm saying. You know, be so proud.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
Listen, Tianna, we are so fucking proud of you now.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
And you want to know what's crazy?

Speaker 1 (54:10):
City looks so good.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
I'm into talk.

Speaker 5 (54:14):
To shit about people or whatever the case may be,
But I'm falling for the Tianna Wonder the award. Don't
she look different now to you? Like from one day
to the other.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
So now I'm.

Speaker 5 (54:27):
Looking at the outfits and I'm like, yeah, she queen,
she a big girl. She I don't know the glow up.
She always been bad, she always been flying, but since she.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Wanted the award, she got a glow.

Speaker 5 (54:40):
She looking like fucking Angela Basti. He was ready, right,
She looking like.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Some mothers chip right now.

Speaker 5 (54:47):
She ain't just Tianna Taylor who sit like that on
the couch of us and bug out.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
It's I don't know, I'm falling for it.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
I'm feeling like, Wow, I was.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Ready for her moment.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
You could tell that she she patiently waits, waited for
her moment, and when it came, she was ready.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
A lot of people not ready for the moment.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
No, no, And that's the most important thing about this
whole thing.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
You gotta be ready for when it comes, because you
don't know when it's gonna come.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
That's a super fact, you know, good man. You could
quote as a guy named fad Joe. His quote is,
you gotta stay in the game.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
You ever know.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
I'm telling yo, listen, you gotta stay in the game.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
You never know.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
And so what I mean by that is you got
a guy. I don't know if it's true or it's
a lie, but what I hear from rumors, the guy
what's his name, Chamelionaire chameleion in it. He had that
big hit, but he went off and did some like
some shit in Silicon Valley.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
You don't know that, you know, you think, Doctor.

Speaker 5 (55:51):
Drake, this is some shit. I always say, there's one
of them stories. You say, Joe, you repeat this shit.
But Doctor Dre discovered it nw A, that's ice cube easy,
all of them. He's done his own albums Chronic, which
is we considered one of the greatest, if not the
greatest album ever. He discovered Snoop Dogg, then when it

(56:12):
discovered eminem that discovered fifty cent And did you think
that the most money he.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
Ever made come from headphones?

Speaker 5 (56:22):
You never fucking know. I'll never forget when imadphones came out.
I'm in first class and every white guy, white girl
on that plane had them shits on, and I'm just like,
that's what you know, huh th black people and we
had it, but you know, we always gonna support Doctor Dre.
That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is when

(56:42):
somebody listen.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
My first pick was mons, we stole them.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Shit, Come on, Lola, tell me about it.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Hold on, is he gonna think I try to put
that bag in his biket?

Speaker 4 (56:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Yeah, yeah, No, look, you stole them shit.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
I'll just say, y'all, it wasn't my.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
It wasn't yas.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Yeah, not what I ran them. Damn.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
I was so grateful for they That is the best
phones I ever heard that at the time.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
They had the red wires, red wires. It wasn't wireless.

Speaker 5 (57:17):
You know what broke my heart is before your time. No,
they had this thing called the iPad.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
I have, maybe, y'all.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
What I just told you A little way on my eyepod,
I just set that, y'all.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
I didn't know that I was listening to Cayo.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
My ship just turned off. Like, let me ask your question.
Did everybody get.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
Like a fucking like a you know when they say
it's a virus when my turned off? My eyepad turned off,
not like five ten thousand fucking songs on that ship.
My ship just did we get a bug? My eyepart
don't work that somebody has a working eyepod twenty twenty six,

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cause my shit just turned off.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
I wanted if mine because I still got my I
wanted to work.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
Yo.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
That shit broke my heart when the fucking odd part
turned off.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
I'm really in the gym going.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
I got the same shit.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
Pup that pup, that stip fuck like I got that
shit that gym playlist to keep going. That shit said
no more odd part. You know they do that shit
with the phones. They when they come out with the
new phone, i' seventeen. Your shit all of a sudden
start glitching, not working. You ain't here now, maybe I'm

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losing certain you gotta go buy the phone.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
You need a new phone, the updated one.

Speaker 5 (58:38):
Alex excex self Freshman twenty twenty three, Glo Realer Friday.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
Since you see how you.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Feel about that class, I mean I was on it.
I feel great about it. I ain't think I will
ever be on.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
A couple of double XL Wow. I dreamed of it, but.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
I'm like, I ain't even gonna get that. Like if
I get a hit, if I pop, I ain't getting that.
I would say that as myself, but you know, coming
from a place of doubts and to do that to you.
So when I did get it, I'm like nah, I
don't ever, don't ever soak out in fact.

Speaker 5 (59:14):
Crop you ever you ever feel like some people might
have took off before you? And he was like yo,
I was right next to him, like I had this
artist shout out Angelica Villa she got a project coming out,
and I remember she was doing like them showcases and
Doja Cat was nobody knew what she was performing with.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Her, and Jelica had more the power. She had fat
Joe there with us.

Speaker 5 (59:39):
I'm pushing up, blowing the bag, this and that and
that Doja Cat went to the fucking moon. I remember
that showcase when nobody knew both of them, you know,
at least, and Jelica walked.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
In with it.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
Joe crag we coming through third out, She's looking good
and man that Doja Cat.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
So you ever seen ain't that and said, damn, I
gotta get there or you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Know, if I would have seen that, I don't think
I would have got my hit.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
I wouldn't have been blessed with my hip.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
This is like when you watch somebody else blessings or
somebody else pockets name, ain't focus on yours.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
So yeah, I get I got a little man. I
tell everybody, I don't give a fuck what they say.
You know, they gonna try to spice my shit up.
But you know, I got a little man.

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
I came in the game. I'm selling drugs.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
I got Beams and Benz's Cuban changed ice st Out,
all these other rappers looking at me like they saw
alien and shit, that's how I came in the game.
They could fucking live they want, and all the niggas
became billionaires before Joe Krack and I'm sitting here still
struggling for the next paycheck, and I'm like, shit, these

(01:00:49):
motherfuckers really got to the billy before me. Like I
was like, you know, so you know now they inspired me.
Now I'm like, all right, I gotta keep going. I
know we could do that because I seen these guys
before they did that. So I've always looked at stuff
like inspiration, right, you know That's how I took it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Let's listen to pain one good job.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Feel the pain, Philip, Hey, phil the pain I went
to that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Morland got Sleepers Brook again.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Love a lesson, learn better, annoy.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
Your friends or else you will get burned.

Speaker 10 (01:01:27):
Gotta count on me because I can guarantee that that
I'll be fun.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Everything you don't cruz.

Speaker 10 (01:01:44):
No more.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
I can do whatever I want you.

Speaker 8 (01:01:51):
You don't cure gonna look like crying. I'm buying everything
you brought me. Thompson reminds me I was dead bitch
before him. He trying to you bing bong. I'm like,
guess who bitch?

Speaker 13 (01:02:04):
But they keep it pee.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
I'm like, if you bitch.

Speaker 8 (01:02:07):
Or you thought that was your man's hun, guess who
bitch want him on his money? These hos been crushing
for DUMBI the brother day ladies, man be dusn't your money?
What you doing? What a bitch that got momotion in
your money than you that's out here hustling you trying
to not this out of the pitch with don't got
nothing to lose wine giving niggas nothing. He got something
to prove. I got too much.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Money to be fucking with you.

Speaker 8 (01:02:26):
I got plenty of is a hundred of you, So
you know how do you know how move? Crying?

Speaker 13 (01:02:32):
But you that I do, don't.

Speaker 8 (01:02:52):
Trying to play me like an outcast and pictures the outlast.
I'm gonna make you drinking tears in the shot class.
I'm gonna make you fix your fist going out, gonna
do your big one on me some of love, but
you're begging for attention to one to do my back
of putting sh and instead of trying to keep it
for you should have new your limits, Like I wouldn't
have you crying in the new minuet.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
That based on that's s going somewhere else with it. Man,
what's the name of the.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Project, the new Joint?

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
I bet I bet it's like I bet, look.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
Little New York show this saint that that ain't this
cracking kiss?

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
God damn it, there's some noise for Lulla brook y'all
for sure, Hm,