March 5, 2026 • 43 mins
Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined this week by FERG, who tells Joe and Jada about his most recent project Flip Phone Shorty, the history behind A$AP Mob, the "Shabba" lyric fans recite to him the most, his newfound emergence as a visual artist being commissioned by Adidas, being tapped to redesign Rucker Park, and his new The Scythe rap collective with Denzel Curry, TiaCorine, Bktherula, and Key Nyata.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
This is Defluidity episode show Cracking Dawn, your boy Jada, this.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Is the Joe Jada Show.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You already know every show leg ship in the nation,
every show legendary, every show iconic, and we're doing ship out.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Today's guests.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
You think of the bad boy logo, I think I
will coming downstairs bringing bags of merger. Shout out to
us pops, thy god to hate that mid You think
of individuality, hardworking thing.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
As a gentleman makes some noise, but asap first.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Shout out to teeth first, Yeah, yeah, me and productive first.
Still got the muscle speak.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
I motherfucker, guinea bockdamp flop with fucks take top on.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
It's over for one of these young guys.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Man, Hey, yo, listen, he missed out on the fashion
on the trip, and you one of the guys are
respected most because you throw that ship on.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
You wear that shit to the Baldega, the supermarket. You
gonna come every time with the fly shit on.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
And also the tribute when you did the park over
the work of Parker while I was here but that's certain, yere,
you was it? What's that like being from hallm Like
this is Hall ofm aretif we're gonna go into it, guys,
I don't think nobody really understands your position in Halem.
What was that like when he tapped you and said, oh,
(02:00):
come design Rucker Park over, shout out to my boys,
step freeze a free Yeah, he hit me. He got
commissioned to you know, he's super into end one basketball,
the whole thing ruck A Park.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
And he got a call like, Yo, we need somebody
to do the pargo. We want to do sign over.
And then he called me and I'm like word, and
I'm like this makes a lot of sense. I just
want to kill it. So I had called jav Jenens Brown.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I was in traffic and we spoke to like four
hours about just the origins of basketball and like where
it came from and just like the as texts and
just you know how the game was made and brought
up because I wanted to make something that was super
mimental and it just came out amazed. Now it came
(02:52):
out amazing, scientifical. That's the cards. He had a scientific
king signed Mark Year on Yo, let's stick.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I scared you. What's up? Brother?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
You got what selth Ferk's going newer, bring art the
music what we're doing then?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
So what's going nor? Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, so I just dropped a project called Flipfall and Shorty,
which is actually this is the vials right here, the
whole so like bringing back right that that flip Fall
era music ringteld Era, and I did a whole film
behind it right now. D my manager, he working on
(03:37):
our distribution and everything, so we just didn't do our screenings.
He didn't want in art bas of Miami, and I'm
looking to do one in New York.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So I'm unless I know what we're done.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
What you want people to get from slip full short
you want them to feel like the back of that look.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yes, So if you see the movie and like really
remind you of like Stay Property, oh, like Killer Season,
all of the hood movies we love, Like literally that
was the reference for this movie, like bringing back the
six ex Shirts, being Danni's under the Fit is like
all of the shit that I grew up singing. And
(04:13):
then the music just kind of really it creates a
suit for that project. So yeah, like thet see the
movie and then they hit the music, it'll just take
you back.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
It's like a poll that takes you back to that time.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
You want to know what's so crazy it is when
y'all first came out, he sat, that was that bob
you gave us with that first video? It felt like,
oh shit, every the stouts jump kids, they just can't
back with that bob.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
For me, it's crazy because y'all doing what we used
to do. So my thaughter comebas some ill jeans and
she'd be like yeah, and they I'll show a picture
in nineteen eighty two, had those shut it down quick.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Understand because the youth they feel like they yo, what's hours?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (05:01):
But they don't know they tapping into that frequency and
so they coming out like Yo, your shit whack, oh
gee my shit. I'm like, yo, bro, like I never forget.
I had an argument with h what's the name? I
say that all the time? Excrusive gang. He told me
I'm jacking the style. He said, Yo, I've been seeing you.
Jack myself said, let's go to.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
The video tape where I had the coy Yard lever
hoodie on another brother, You're still running with b and
Mephod this time, and so we tapped into that frequency.
I love when you tap into that me. I feel
old when they stressing like we were stressing when I
was twenty years old.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Motherfucker pull up next to me with that stead. I
was like, damn man, we some old nicked loud. That's
what we used to do.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
We call wait, you can wait to get the money,
that jump in a pool with the mink and all
of that, because you.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Know your dad, super hall of legend.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
The thing I love the most about you and your
career is you called the way for yourself.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
You earned everything yourself.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Anybody whoever found out who your following was, they found
out after the fact.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
They loved you for your style and your talent and everything.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
But then by the way, you know, I used to
explain that I used to be like, yo, you know
what father is and no one knew.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Or when Halling was hollered, and y'all could tell you what.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
We used to stand out there and look at the
wide body fences and and all that shit coming down.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
The whole thing was in the hole.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
New York City, from Yonkers to stat Knock, it was
one twenty fifth and one forty fifth.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
If you got money in Long Nhley and you got
to stuff the ill whapman, fuck it ill I fit.
Your job was to go there. There was nothing else
in that Like your dream was I'm gonna give me
some shit and drive down forty fifth and I'm gonna
drive down twenty fifth. By the way, I was the
(07:02):
fat Puerto Rican kid, and then converted him with claring
five sixty with no shirt on, with fucking chains on
like this in front of the way.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Berg and leave the door open on burpose. See if
you touch my shit. Wait, I don't Wannastand but your
father had that store, man, That's what dreams are made
of it. We was coming by.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I came by his store a few times to do
kosamk because he was puting his clothes of your store.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You've been hat stores, Yeah, I've been as stores.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
That was one of the first things I did when
I got on with Flow Joe. The way it used
to work was like you got to hear record and
then once that shit bade, you ain't kill spine.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
That's the term.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
It had no money either. Even with FlowJo was number
one in America. I was hearing five hundred dollars a show,
so it wasn't no real money. So I was like, okay,
what do I you off season? So I gotta get me.
You know, we're not fashion, We're not here fly. I
gotta give me a fucking store. And so you know,
we grew up with you man. They were just store.
(08:12):
And that's not to all my Jewish people, it's not
the rather choil just.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Then like none of that or that was the name
of the s and the woman who owed it was
named Rose. She was a Holocaust surviva. She show you
her numbers. They used to give them a number. So
Rose Rose didn't give a fuck about this is the
wildest time in New York. She be like, yo form,
no holar cost. I don't give a fucking up knocking
(08:36):
y'all talk here about pay now.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It's so oh. She was alleged shut up Teddy the.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Fly store in New York City robbing two stops down
on the train.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
They grabbed your ship back and put his back in
the store.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
They stepped and if they like you, they go like this, Joey,
I'm gonna open this store on the counter of three
you run that.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Wait, you see the guys across the street over there.
For you have to run on the train. You gotta
vake it out of it. You gotta beult bird. Niggas
ain't half ship.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
So they used to wait outside of juw Man and
if you was the herb or the victim even.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Block, I think I was tough. I still have to
run one God, this is running up to the train.
Stay like that's it.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
They waited.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
If they love you, they give me a Warner show.
You see three guys. Yeah, they're gonna rob you. So
I have one, two, three, run that way and now
that like five blocks from there.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
So I had it.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
But I was a fat, fat man, So I'm like,
but but the mouth, you know, you can survive for
a jew man.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, So that's where we got it from. That's the
way we got to spy.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Now. I used to go there when I ain't had
no one.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
And live rid all the fucking v bombers and sheepskins
and hang out in there and just watch them, uh
negotiate with people.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
And just so that was in the Bronx. It was
in the Bronx fixed. Yeah. I was going to the
last see to the get sheepskins and all that that's
where I didn't go. One of my first ones came
from there, one of my first but the.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Last see is where one DMC made the last Sea
Running C changed the game. So before one DMC, everybody
rappers were dressed in the costume.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Like Indians and it almost folk like.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
The Gap band and and uh, I'm not fine, you
know you tell her the truth?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Where go you? A flac though? Well melling them did
the leveling suits that was constantly. That was in the
constant right on dm C. The first guy who dressed
like drunk games and water that was also the cost
he just suits the levels with stings with it. Well,
it was considered the first made. Everybody wanted to dress like.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Everybody had to go to the last secause they were
shooting their videos at the last he and all that.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So it was like yo with Lancey Street and gotta
go down there.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
The Bronx to man was a whole like it was
like the movies and Warriors bro like, it's people. I know,
my grandmother one of them that lived eighty five years
in the same projects and never left from the four Corners.
It's a lot of people, you know, shout out to
my stylist to relish its father passed away to rails,
(11:27):
and you know, I was hanging out with him in
the hospital and I was asking him, like, once you
most proud of me for y'ard it took my family
to Paris. You're dying any ding now and you say,
gods where I'm most proud of it?
Speaker 8 (11:43):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
And it was a big deal because we as artists,
we get to travel like we too.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Blacks, right, you know, And so we talked about where
we're from.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
A lot of people never left the four corners. So
you're the going man cooling Brooklyn. I used to go
to first. I went everywhere. I'll be squaring more cow.
I remember one time I went to the cow Asteum,
I couldn't find my cheese fast and Joe.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
It wasn't always fat Jordan Rapp. I think it was
a fact. Forty weekend nigga with ten guys. They're like,
we're gonna get this, nigga.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
The thing is on me, like, sen I gotta get
my teens and get up in that motherfucking get the
fuck up value.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
No, listen, I gotta say to you, I tell you
where you know what I win? And I tell you
when I lose. That's that's that's the only way a
great storyteller. You gotta table spell backwards, level level spell backwards.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Is why.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I said, by Adidas store, I could be me versus me. Oh, yes,
me versus me, or I commissioned to do our piece
for Adidas. And I'll say, yogi oh before you even
go into it.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Don't you feel less? Because I don't know how wrong
you was doing art.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Personally, but yeah, you presented into the world not that
was going you already getting commissioned, getting you fucking out
of hell like that?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
How How did that feel?
Speaker 8 (13:16):
Now?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I feel good because I get acknowledged for something that
I've always been into and doing.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
So I was advanced ladies at j he did he
did this. That's the great crazy and I thought we
designed the best one. We did the ones with the.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Bronx Hall of y'all girls. We took care of him.
We took care it made too Okay, you get the
y'all fact he got one.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I got what y'all. We took care of y'all facts
got one.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
We used to feel y'all three morning, we get the
Hall of I got the hall in George wo's that
same color thick.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I gotta come. That's y'all raised it.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I know y'all got a lot of mist outs. I
need some of the rough Rider jackets. Well, I need
all of that now. But it's a blessing man, because
I went to art school. I was to arts our
School of Art and Design High School of Art, the Design.
My cops also went to that school, so I was
always doing art the whole time. I actually thought that
(14:13):
I would be an artist, but I was always just rapping.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
You are artist.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I am an artist, yeah, well visual artist, but I
thought that I was gonna go off of that first.
But I was battle rapping and being in the streets
and just listening to music. And I always had a
love for music. So the fact that I'm able to
create more life and energy around my brand doing stuffing
I always loved, it's a blessing. And for people to
(14:41):
recognize it and embrace it, obviously, are you except Rocky?
You guys have learned to diversified. Like with you, you know,
you're not just like stereotype or categorized in one category
like I see you at many different I see you
(15:03):
at many different spaces that directed by every Yeah, you know,
we always say the music. We always say behind the scenes,
but we'll tell the fans and all that that the
music is just.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
The coffee book that you read. Is they that? Yo?
Speaker 6 (15:19):
I like that guyp for music. And then you sit
next to the guy and he happens to be the
owner of Calvin Khan and you're like, yo, man, we
can do some fucking underwears together, some a zach perfect
and that's how it go. So your thing and your
music is the talking piece to get you into those rooms.
(15:41):
And you definitely is things like you know how to
do that? Everybody no lart do that. Some people are
just born to be rappers. Some people are born to
do shit. It's nothing you can do.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I got friends now, I come up in the underground
hip hop crew.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
He don't want commercial lie and don't live. They don't care.
They're walker versu lie. You know, I have to convince him.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
When I worked with Cuja in my ice, who's four
or five platinum all the time asking me to get
in our shop, shall I had to have like.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
A team meeting and they were like, yo, we don't
wrap this. I was like, yo, say my ile, I'm
trying to come up.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
I could They're not doing that one are the other guys?
Like everybody's good. Everybody do what they do. Din with
this DJ one of the greatest producers class raptors Diamonds.
He DJ's the forty five joints Our call up on
his shows. Uh, Vanessa's doing this thing. He DJ's and produced.
He just produced the album like last year, two years ago.
(16:44):
He did the remixes, the motign. You got to check
that ship out. So he did all that Marster James
shit over but with hip hop vats for everybody. Oh
see everybody out there and buck wild but wild, give
y'all woke. That's a Hall ofm classic.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Ch Liz you were man.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Even Chaln, whoa Senner would now wouldn't follow like Senner,
wod it?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
What step? Fuck you? Whoa?
Speaker 8 (17:10):
What did he say?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
That was about the site raped collected in the lid effect.
Who shout out to Dezel, shout out Statia. Nobody's doing
it right now. Nobody came together as a click.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I said, like, yeah, I used to do it more
so back on the days, a lot of rappers used
to hang out together.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
You see free styles or X you fix punk everybody like,
we don't really.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
See the camaraderie like that, like not just doing music together,
but hanging out and building together, and you would just
build on it.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
He was coming to my sessions a lot. He knocking
out four five joint speed session.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I'm coming to his session the same thing, and were like, Yo,
let's just form this collective because we had so much
energy together.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
We just wanted to put it out to the world packaging.
Damn right, that was that needed. I see from Only
Love Jungle Brother's Trap a Quest.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
They lost everybody, different crews, but everybody got together and
it made some mean classics.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
It was a nation like unless not hip hop was
so hip hop. When I got turned off by hip
hop and I moved to Miami was when everybody started fight.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I never forget. I'm sorry, guys, I don't want to
keep bringing us up. But I was your jersey through
the flag the flag I was. I was your jersey
in Maja Cuzie and I'm listening to High ninety seven
and out here even Ji Jones or Cameraon say Yo,
that nigga knows smack this kofie off.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
That's when that that was it for me.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
That was like Yo, I pulled out a white flag.
I said, we'll moving to Miami. I can't take this
ship no more because they were violating pharaohs, the kings
of Egypt and hip hop. It just came a time
when New York was just violating each other so much
where I was.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Like, yo, I grew up. Let me tell you a
fun fact that you don't know something you never heard before.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Right if you look closely to black sheets, video engine
engine number, I'm one of the guys.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Y'all pick it up, pick it up, pig it up,
back on the singe. Chris, get like an extra. I
better find that everybody's video. Everybody was in my room.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Out there, Flow Joe Great, nice game, beating nuts game,
Grand Football came, fucking Dona Dean from Neus. Everybody came,
and I was just the first thronging I ever had out.
We loved each other and hip We had a type
of camaraderie that was just we didn't care. It was
competition lyriking, but it wasn't.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
It was like, we want to see everybody grow, everybody wing,
We want to support Langa platform to everybody else.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Sh got real funky out here and so you know,
we went. I went to Miami and started that work
to MCALLI Pitt Bull, Rick Ross, Little Wayne. Little Wayne
came from Katrina the Fucked Up the Oneers, he came
to Miami. I was the first one with open arms
to welcome up and date and we all working together
(20:20):
make the songs together, jumping on and I found that
camaraderie while I was down there.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
When I laid all making rings and all that, it
was because everybody was working with each other up here.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
It was sold of like now you know, it's like, oh,
I love social media and I love to watch what's
going on in the world, and I love to know,
but it's ugly out there. Everybody just won't Scot disrespecting
each other, won't Scott. I just be like, yo, wow,
now this now it's like every day, you know, the phone.
(20:57):
I don't know about y'all, but I wake up, thank
you God, say my prayer, and I grab her phone.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
That's how I know. But I'm Jesse. Jasey died. That's
how I know. Canoes, That's how I know.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Way ever, getting this going on for the day now
times out of center, I pick it up all this
girl saying, fuck the other girl.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
This guy he's saying, but it's a really ugly time
in America. Why you laughing? I got confrontation, by the way,
No cat, I got to speech out joking.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
You didn't due.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
We know he was in the video. Her was telling
you you're the need of the cat called this. What
are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Up?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Here's the fucking you are in there? You started.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Everybody's calling me captain. I don't know what is older
than doing that place so'ing like, yo, I don't know
about nothing.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
If he's slowing your brain down a little bit.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
I was telling him for the episode, not even you
the find you James that put it on the thing
when we put the clips, that's the snap.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Who fact I'm in that video. I'm in a bunch
of videos. Or let's say you was here remember the time.
But what I can say is it was a time
we all embraced each other, you know what I mean.
So it's good that y'all got together. They got running
that coligion together, just making you you know, you gotta
(22:30):
make you know. We had an artist on the here.
She's short but feisty, Lola Brooks Lola, and she said
she said, I don't go to.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
The studio to make your hit. That's what me. I
go to make your hit.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Like if that Joe put out a record and you
feel like he shot the video, he put the bath
and they don't blow.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
No, I fail.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I'm not playing with these people. I don't throw them out,
but throw them out. But she said she go in
the studio and just make music because she got to
get it off out of her sister, right you know?
And that that that's mean right there? You know where
I never heard nobody break it down like that where?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
And it's true.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
You know, us as the artist is therapy. We want
to get certain shit out, we want to do certain
things show it's like therapy.
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That's in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, and Virginia.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
When it comes to y'all, right, so I didn't know
much about mos Na Bo. Yeah, Yams, Yeah he's step yeahs.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Like I didn't know Yams or could you describe how
he came a part of the team and how he
influenced the people, Because I see y'all be having like
Yams day and I see mad artist me in love
yets like you know, on on social media to tell
me about him and his contributes to are always sat pass.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
So with Yeams, he made a.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
SAT like he started a SAP along with Jus and
like a few other guys Mari, Me and Rocky joined
like two years later.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
So it was just a collective of creative people and
it was like a bunch of teams on Halem before
a SAP. So Tiana was down with a crew called
Team Nerd that.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
She started that Yams was a part of, and I
was part of a crew called Hall of memby Rocky
was a part of a crew called a Million Dollar Babies.
And then when the crew started to fade out of Harlem,
we formed a SAP where we all came together as a.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Staty so yems that's what he did too.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Yeah, because I've seen a lot of respect from him,
a lot of high phrase and stuff like that, and
so I never knew what he really did.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
But Yams also worked with Dipset and he worked with
our early Magaze be So he used to like work
with kring Civil pack up all the CDs. He used
to be in the books reading like all of the
the articles on music. So he was like our an r.
He was basically like Jedi, Yeah, Jedi when came out
(27:15):
of music.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Let me tell you something right now, Okay, want me
to go, you don't want me to go. It's some
ship right now? Do you tip you? We just talked
about hip hop.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You know how disgusting it is in the monscular world
right now, I just called an algorithm in La by
mistake is mad old school killer rats like your man,
what's the man who told the jonk Gotti send me
the bull. But it's a bunch of them, right all
rats and they up here with podcasts, the people following them.
(27:51):
And this is so crazy to me that you know,
I feel like Coaster nostru the masia created the snitches,
get stitches, yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
And trickle down to the hood like y'all mind your
business this.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I've seen this rat nigga man, he said, he called
out somebody who's skill a boss.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Ooh there you got. I don't know, he said, you got,
but listen to this. You got a week to get
him touch him his a wrack talking to like a
ma fia Dono was still boss. You gotta week.
Speaker 11 (28:25):
The respond on the twelve shot, this is coming out.
We're gonna start with the depth Shodnie Wilkinson.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I seen Yumpf.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
He's on the instagramt talk about he donna talk about
murders that these guys committed and nobody, you better talk
to me.
Speaker 11 (28:43):
I'm gonna tell him about And did you see the comments?
They was like, no, I never knew Johnny Rukerson was
killed by the ball. I thought, I'm just picking the name.
He ship made hip hop look like someday school bro.
I look at that, he said, I said, oh no.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
They got a problem. This ship is a problem.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
We think that were looking at what's going on in
hip hop because you got a whole society of that, right,
you know. But the mafia got a problem. So back
to the music. I heard something and I told you
real quick, I said, Yo, this ship.
Speaker 8 (29:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
The thing about you is your Clowes is your most
famous bar in job. Sure nigg on my dicto, uh,
sure niggas on my dic tone.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Every flash, I suga dit no, oh yeah, I look
like Typtos. But I don't know. That was all the
honey's been coming up to me saying that just that's
(29:53):
the honey. The real niggas just sticks all. Yeah, let
me tell them like typt.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I wouldn't even dick that you ah nah, I know
when you in the clubs, that's the that's the biggest.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
They dropped the music. Every time he goes no there
feeling like it is what he Yeah, come on, you.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Know it's certain things and certain stores you know what's
not got to do with a little monad?
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Which one is your see what the model for a
year and a half. I love that story. Fuck you
talking about what's in the next episode. I take my
classes on.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
I don't already want to shoot with my classes on?
So routway do we do the next episode from it's
not saying from utfo And as you gagd wrap up
the doctor? You know them niggas was nice to jump.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Shoot me like Gary. Then it was the airpis. It
was way too early for them to have them them flows.
It's in that cool fee though.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Lester walls down. I'm pitching the shirt. Baby, I bet
I'm here for guys. It's a good chance. I gotta
deal with me for another ten twenty y'all got twenty on, y'all.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Let me change something.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
As long as my sugar stayed down, my lust the
water or that, Oh y'all gonna deal with fat Joe
to you about seventy years old, some shit like that,
you wouldn't know what's crazy. There's one guy who's still
keep bitch. Tracy Morgan begs me every time he sees
with Joe. He needs some money.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
What you know invested every time. I'm gonna see him
at the Linco game.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Tonight, Joe and I invest in something. You need some money,
you know. It's the nicest guy you've ever seen. Come
to my store shops botch it for the customers. He
walks out of Medicine Square Guard, and he see a
dude they used to doing.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
It's like, yo, I'm homeless this. He was like, bro,
they do that, but to me. I ain't do that
to you. I remember.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
I they think you gotta forget No, nigga, we was
all broke and you my friend was abusing me when
we was broke.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I don't give a part of the guys like when
you're rich. He was like, fuck you. I don't care.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
Now.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I don't know if I got the heart to do
that one. I do you do you don't.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
I get you back down now, I get a back
pulled up in a fucking five hundred thousand dollars with
with some first shit and all that.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
They gotta look at me. They've been doing this forever.
The guys who used to bully me in junior high school,
they all work in like Madison Square Guard. You ain't
saying they scalpust forever. And so when I pull up,
they opened the doors. Now your crab put up.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
You'll remember me? Do you remember me from Nolton Street Chief.
We used to be down back in the things that
happens all the time.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Besides your dad, who's so many your biggest influences in fashion.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I don't even think your style. I think your style
is eraror based like you. It's not off, no people,
it's off for time. So for time.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah, era era, for sure, that'sn't I would have to
say everybody from the eighties and early nineties, early two thousands. Yeah,
I was looking at a lot of I mean, first
drug Dealer was like going through the Fast magazine seeing
the old pictures of Richard Quarter and you know all
(33:35):
the guys. And then my uncle his friends, Yeah, how
my moms and they used to carry themselves very classic fly.
And then like when the rappers, I started seeing the
rappers movement in group man like it was just like
you were the first person I seen with like a
million ps, like in your crib, Like when I see him,
(33:58):
we kill fucking that lay not the brand Jordan.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
They had they game it on locking La so they
had drops and all the stores different drops.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Then him was gonna shoot, shoot. I run up.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Are so many stores in La. Now I got security
in La. God bless that Jordan not died and that
this is the one place I got three security strapped
to death. I'm not playing with them right. So but
when I walk up with rich player, me and three
fucking securities, they thinking this is the terror Sward for real.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
So I'm just walking in the store and I'm like, Yo,
where's sack. I need a side swept. They're like, yo, ship,
don't come off with nick. I need that.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I did that to one final store that I get
a phone calls Reggie from Jostern.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Joe, you got to stop. We ran down on every store,
like going into it. I go into the closet and
when he got the fucking they was not trying to
get in your purples. Uh lace the furse.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I went into the storage. Sorry, twelve, you know that's true.
Was it like East l A or something like that.
The girl was looking at me like, yo, what's calling.
The more to the story is I love collecting sneakers,
so I had to have it. And so I got
the call from Regie. He said please making you jarhard.
(35:20):
Come to my old chel then he give you everything
you want. You can't keep running down on these stores
like you do it now it's doing.
Speaker 12 (35:25):
You need the hell of you.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
He send me four unions. You know I actually put
this dollar. Everybody send you. I ast you over the house,
did I ain't you?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
You got you.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Stole the Jeff Hamilton everything you don't sneakers and ship
like don't ever.
Speaker 10 (35:49):
You know.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
One time, one time I'm on tour being Nelly game
Ow Wow, Snoop, Kerry Hilse, a bunch of people and
this dude came to say, y'all want y'all to come
to my store.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
And get whatever you want to free.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Your niggas took the nails off the chair like niggas
just walking up there when Sosati then they had no store.
Well if finished the game by Watters, Joe, nissas just
taking shick.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
You didn't taking the sticks office like yo, they wiped them.
Thank you brother. You looked out there the man. I know,
no more store in Australia. Niggas still everything. I'm from
that school, you know. I shout out to the system.
What was her name?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
You was funting like you knew or the girl she
mark from U April foot Front told you about the fuck.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yes, but let me figure out the foot locker, do
you no way?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Just yesterday I got invited by the brand killing you.
You know, Killian Hennessy is a brand I've been using forever.
Colognes went up in there and giving me favorous shit,
and I'm like, y'all I love this, that, that and
these kinds of things too, rich rich players like yo,
I love this flavor.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I love that he called it this burple Force. It
was like the Golden chap He was like this man, okay,
let me tell you what happened.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I did to tell you that other part of the
story of your part too. I go in the closet,
I get to later Force. I woke up, girls looking
at me like, she look at me like, are you doing?
She don't give a fuck. She don't play that. But
you know, spec Joe and security is acting like anybody
acting like they haven't wanted right to be honest with you.
(37:42):
So she's looking like, you know, right as I'm leaving,
which turns right and goes she know he's sides ten.
I said, oh, this is when Robin. The place goes
back like I already see. I got lucky with the
twelve which player turns around the coach Joe. After this,
(38:03):
she's like, they don't come out to next month.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
This, this, this, this, this, I'm like this.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
You needed that.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
He got it. She can'ts up.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
He went to kill you and shout out to kill you.
And I loved the cologne, soho uh took care of me. Uh,
mister killy, and thank you so much. I've been a
big fact. So I used to use this Cravens called
Beyond Love, right and they were running out. They said
it discontinue, and I bought me a fucking battle a
(38:35):
barrel of it might have been twenty thousand dollars a
batrele a beyond Love and every day, you know, for years,
I was just you know, because if you like me,
if you love Franks, when they tell you it's on
from length, I got another brand. I used dat discontinue
that man, I what to do. Buy bought every job
(38:56):
you could think. I mean, I got about forty or
fifty bottles in the house, like I can't. I don't
even think I live long enough.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
To spray that ship when I'm addicted to a flavor.
I gotta have that ship. And you telling me it's over,
it's never coming back. Just continue. That's how to get
us for the MX nine five all the time. The
neon green come out and be like last run, I
go get nine pair, yo, I need nine pair. That's hot.
(39:24):
Did that just the other day? We love that.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
We love it them dray them shocks and gray and
yellow joints, gray, white and yellow off of us.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Somebody gave me, what's the girl? My girl?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
She worked for character licenmed girl name. That's disrespect. I
sing that at the All Star Game. But my husband
got a cloth in mind. He did collaborate night.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
I wed all day. I gotta find these ship. These
ships are like sweat being gray and the orange. You're
fare what's that ship?
Speaker 12 (39:56):
They set you a pair too? For the palace, Dude,
the palace, dude, they got the in the grade. Yes,
it was apparent. It was the apparel of the sneakers,
the sneakst niggers the palace. That what's the same shoot
a steep Victor did DNA hellas did when I was flying.
It's gray and grand alice, yo.
Speaker 13 (40:13):
Matter of fact, that's like a Jadakis sneaker. No bullshit,
that's the Jadakiss sneaker. Well, you know, Jada Kiss, I
never even do this, like designer says.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
So I threw them on the day. My daughter was like, look, Dad,
throw them all. That's the that's the Jadakiss stick to
hear this guy. So that's what I'm saying. He made
one of those skinny people. I'm troubling. I can't even
alice the where we get it from? Man, Yeah, let
me tell you so.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
So let us know when the projects coming out. Flip
for short exam with the lux here the lux I
want to play something for y'all. Let's go play something, baby,
send me to find that. Are you on the de
Luxe Telor came on in them all? And you know
I got this massage chair. It picks me up in
(41:03):
the air. Massage is my ass.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Let me tell you something. He's a massage chair. And
I shout off some momem sage therapists. But you know
I'm in that chair listening to that. Seana Taylor that
that Jorge you on Agreements. I can't wait to hear
mister Blade that on the show.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
She gotta release Well, man, she's doing big ship right now,
lonely globes. And then he said little. I said, gee,
I know, at ten years old working for me, she's
one of the only people that ever rang up on me.
I'm gonna be things. I'm gonna be a start. I'm
gonna this used to have a little biking haul of
(41:57):
them and pull up on me. I'm going to be
down with for real. I'm gooda she did all that ship,
This ain't that and this cracked kids get some noise
preferred baby.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
But I want to give you all, y'all flowers, man,
because y'all doing the amazing work. Because y'all been doing
it for hunteen years. Y'all show all of us how
to do it. How then keep got integrity, how to
move and groove in the game, stay alive and drive
because y'all not just being alive.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
I appreciate y'all. I love y'all. Thank y'all for inspiringly.
What's the news? Gay? You know what I'm saying, Jada,
that's the intro. Every now and then we might need
that little click name of the album.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Flip on, Shorty, Flip on Shorty, right now, uptown baby,
Deluxe Away that's go
Is your most famous bart in job short nigga on
my dick tom Oh shut nigga on my dic tone.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
This is Defluidity episode show Cracking Dawn, your boy Jada, this.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Is the Joe Jada Show.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You already know every show leg ship in the nation,
every show legendary, every show iconic, and we're doing ship out.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Today's guests.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
You think of the bad boy logo, I think I
will coming downstairs bringing bags of merger. Shout out to
us pops, thy god to hate that mid You think
of individuality, hardworking thing.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
As a gentleman makes some noise, but asap first.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Shout out to teeth first, Yeah, yeah, me and productive first.
Still got the muscle speak.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
I motherfucker, guinea bockdamp flop with fucks take top on.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
It's over for one of these young guys.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Man, Hey, yo, listen, he missed out on the fashion
on the trip, and you one of the guys are
respected most because you throw that ship on.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
You wear that shit to the Baldega, the supermarket. You
gonna come every time with the fly shit on.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
And also the tribute when you did the park over
the work of Parker while I was here but that's certain, yere,
you was it? What's that like being from hallm Like
this is Hall ofm aretif we're gonna go into it, guys,
I don't think nobody really understands your position in Halem.
What was that like when he tapped you and said, oh,
(02:00):
come design Rucker Park over, shout out to my boys,
step freeze a free Yeah, he hit me. He got
commissioned to you know, he's super into end one basketball,
the whole thing ruck A Park.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
And he got a call like, Yo, we need somebody
to do the pargo. We want to do sign over.
And then he called me and I'm like word, and
I'm like this makes a lot of sense. I just
want to kill it. So I had called jav Jenens Brown.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I was in traffic and we spoke to like four
hours about just the origins of basketball and like where
it came from and just like the as texts and
just you know how the game was made and brought
up because I wanted to make something that was super
mimental and it just came out amazed. Now it came
(02:52):
out amazing, scientifical. That's the cards. He had a scientific
king signed Mark Year on Yo, let's stick.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I scared you. What's up? Brother?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
You got what selth Ferk's going newer, bring art the
music what we're doing then?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
So what's going nor? Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, so I just dropped a project called Flipfall and Shorty,
which is actually this is the vials right here, the
whole so like bringing back right that that flip Fall
era music ringteld Era, and I did a whole film
behind it right now. D my manager, he working on
(03:37):
our distribution and everything, so we just didn't do our screenings.
He didn't want in art bas of Miami, and I'm
looking to do one in New York.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So I'm unless I know what we're done.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
What you want people to get from slip full short
you want them to feel like the back of that look.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yes, So if you see the movie and like really
remind you of like Stay Property, oh, like Killer Season,
all of the hood movies we love, Like literally that
was the reference for this movie, like bringing back the
six ex Shirts, being Danni's under the Fit is like
all of the shit that I grew up singing. And
(04:13):
then the music just kind of really it creates a
suit for that project. So yeah, like thet see the
movie and then they hit the music, it'll just take
you back.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
It's like a poll that takes you back to that time.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
You want to know what's so crazy it is when
y'all first came out, he sat, that was that bob
you gave us with that first video? It felt like,
oh shit, every the stouts jump kids, they just can't
back with that bob.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
For me, it's crazy because y'all doing what we used
to do. So my thaughter comebas some ill jeans and
she'd be like yeah, and they I'll show a picture
in nineteen eighty two, had those shut it down quick.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Understand because the youth they feel like they yo, what's hours?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (05:01):
But they don't know they tapping into that frequency and
so they coming out like Yo, your shit whack, oh
gee my shit. I'm like, yo, bro, like I never forget.
I had an argument with h what's the name? I
say that all the time? Excrusive gang. He told me
I'm jacking the style. He said, Yo, I've been seeing you.
Jack myself said, let's go to.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
The video tape where I had the coy Yard lever
hoodie on another brother, You're still running with b and
Mephod this time, and so we tapped into that frequency.
I love when you tap into that me. I feel
old when they stressing like we were stressing when I
was twenty years old.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Motherfucker pull up next to me with that stead. I
was like, damn man, we some old nicked loud. That's
what we used to do.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
We call wait, you can wait to get the money,
that jump in a pool with the mink and all
of that, because you.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Know your dad, super hall of legend.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
The thing I love the most about you and your
career is you called the way for yourself.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
You earned everything yourself.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Anybody whoever found out who your following was, they found
out after the fact.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
They loved you for your style and your talent and everything.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
But then by the way, you know, I used to
explain that I used to be like, yo, you know
what father is and no one knew.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Or when Halling was hollered, and y'all could tell you what.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
We used to stand out there and look at the
wide body fences and and all that shit coming down.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
The whole thing was in the hole.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
New York City, from Yonkers to stat Knock, it was
one twenty fifth and one forty fifth.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
If you got money in Long Nhley and you got
to stuff the ill whapman, fuck it ill I fit.
Your job was to go there. There was nothing else
in that Like your dream was I'm gonna give me
some shit and drive down forty fifth and I'm gonna
drive down twenty fifth. By the way, I was the
(07:02):
fat Puerto Rican kid, and then converted him with claring
five sixty with no shirt on, with fucking chains on
like this in front of the way.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Berg and leave the door open on burpose. See if
you touch my shit. Wait, I don't Wannastand but your
father had that store, man, That's what dreams are made
of it. We was coming by.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I came by his store a few times to do
kosamk because he was puting his clothes of your store.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You've been hat stores, Yeah, I've been as stores.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
That was one of the first things I did when
I got on with Flow Joe. The way it used
to work was like you got to hear record and
then once that shit bade, you ain't kill spine.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
That's the term.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
It had no money either. Even with FlowJo was number
one in America. I was hearing five hundred dollars a show,
so it wasn't no real money. So I was like, okay,
what do I you off season? So I gotta get me.
You know, we're not fashion, We're not here fly. I
gotta give me a fucking store. And so you know,
we grew up with you man. They were just store.
(08:12):
And that's not to all my Jewish people, it's not
the rather choil just.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Then like none of that or that was the name
of the s and the woman who owed it was
named Rose. She was a Holocaust surviva. She show you
her numbers. They used to give them a number. So
Rose Rose didn't give a fuck about this is the
wildest time in New York. She be like, yo form,
no holar cost. I don't give a fucking up knocking
(08:36):
y'all talk here about pay now.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It's so oh. She was alleged shut up Teddy the.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Fly store in New York City robbing two stops down
on the train.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
They grabbed your ship back and put his back in
the store.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
They stepped and if they like you, they go like this, Joey,
I'm gonna open this store on the counter of three
you run that.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Wait, you see the guys across the street over there.
For you have to run on the train. You gotta
vake it out of it. You gotta beult bird. Niggas
ain't half ship.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
So they used to wait outside of juw Man and
if you was the herb or the victim even.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Block, I think I was tough. I still have to
run one God, this is running up to the train.
Stay like that's it.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
They waited.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
If they love you, they give me a Warner show.
You see three guys. Yeah, they're gonna rob you. So
I have one, two, three, run that way and now
that like five blocks from there.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
So I had it.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
But I was a fat, fat man, So I'm like,
but but the mouth, you know, you can survive for
a jew man.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, So that's where we got it from. That's the
way we got to spy.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Now. I used to go there when I ain't had
no one.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
And live rid all the fucking v bombers and sheepskins
and hang out in there and just watch them, uh
negotiate with people.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
And just so that was in the Bronx. It was
in the Bronx fixed. Yeah. I was going to the
last see to the get sheepskins and all that that's
where I didn't go. One of my first ones came
from there, one of my first but the.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Last see is where one DMC made the last Sea
Running C changed the game. So before one DMC, everybody
rappers were dressed in the costume.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Like Indians and it almost folk like.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
The Gap band and and uh, I'm not fine, you
know you tell her the truth?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Where go you? A flac though? Well melling them did
the leveling suits that was constantly. That was in the
constant right on dm C. The first guy who dressed
like drunk games and water that was also the cost
he just suits the levels with stings with it. Well,
it was considered the first made. Everybody wanted to dress like.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Everybody had to go to the last secause they were
shooting their videos at the last he and all that.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So it was like yo with Lancey Street and gotta
go down there.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
The Bronx to man was a whole like it was
like the movies and Warriors bro like, it's people. I know,
my grandmother one of them that lived eighty five years
in the same projects and never left from the four Corners.
It's a lot of people, you know, shout out to
my stylist to relish its father passed away to rails,
(11:27):
and you know, I was hanging out with him in
the hospital and I was asking him, like, once you
most proud of me for y'ard it took my family
to Paris. You're dying any ding now and you say,
gods where I'm most proud of it?
Speaker 8 (11:43):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
And it was a big deal because we as artists,
we get to travel like we too.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Blacks, right, you know, And so we talked about where
we're from.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
A lot of people never left the four corners. So
you're the going man cooling Brooklyn. I used to go
to first. I went everywhere. I'll be squaring more cow.
I remember one time I went to the cow Asteum,
I couldn't find my cheese fast and Joe.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
It wasn't always fat Jordan Rapp. I think it was
a fact. Forty weekend nigga with ten guys. They're like,
we're gonna get this, nigga.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
The thing is on me, like, sen I gotta get
my teens and get up in that motherfucking get the
fuck up value.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
No, listen, I gotta say to you, I tell you
where you know what I win? And I tell you
when I lose. That's that's that's the only way a
great storyteller. You gotta table spell backwards, level level spell backwards.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Is why.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I said, by Adidas store, I could be me versus me. Oh, yes,
me versus me, or I commissioned to do our piece
for Adidas. And I'll say, yogi oh before you even
go into it.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Don't you feel less? Because I don't know how wrong
you was doing art.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Personally, but yeah, you presented into the world not that
was going you already getting commissioned, getting you fucking out
of hell like that?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
How How did that feel?
Speaker 8 (13:16):
Now?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I feel good because I get acknowledged for something that
I've always been into and doing.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
So I was advanced ladies at j he did he
did this. That's the great crazy and I thought we
designed the best one. We did the ones with the.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Bronx Hall of y'all girls. We took care of him.
We took care it made too Okay, you get the
y'all fact he got one.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I got what y'all. We took care of y'all facts
got one.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
We used to feel y'all three morning, we get the
Hall of I got the hall in George wo's that
same color thick.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I gotta come. That's y'all raised it.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I know y'all got a lot of mist outs. I
need some of the rough Rider jackets. Well, I need
all of that now. But it's a blessing man, because
I went to art school. I was to arts our
School of Art and Design High School of Art, the Design.
My cops also went to that school, so I was
always doing art the whole time. I actually thought that
(14:13):
I would be an artist, but I was always just rapping.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
You are artist.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I am an artist, yeah, well visual artist, but I
thought that I was gonna go off of that first.
But I was battle rapping and being in the streets
and just listening to music. And I always had a
love for music. So the fact that I'm able to
create more life and energy around my brand doing stuffing
I always loved, it's a blessing. And for people to
(14:41):
recognize it and embrace it, obviously, are you except Rocky?
You guys have learned to diversified. Like with you, you know,
you're not just like stereotype or categorized in one category
like I see you at many different I see you
(15:03):
at many different spaces that directed by every Yeah, you know,
we always say the music. We always say behind the scenes,
but we'll tell the fans and all that that the
music is just.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
The coffee book that you read. Is they that? Yo?
Speaker 6 (15:19):
I like that guyp for music. And then you sit
next to the guy and he happens to be the
owner of Calvin Khan and you're like, yo, man, we
can do some fucking underwears together, some a zach perfect
and that's how it go. So your thing and your
music is the talking piece to get you into those rooms.
(15:41):
And you definitely is things like you know how to
do that? Everybody no lart do that. Some people are
just born to be rappers. Some people are born to
do shit. It's nothing you can do.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I got friends now, I come up in the underground
hip hop crew.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
He don't want commercial lie and don't live. They don't care.
They're walker versu lie. You know, I have to convince him.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
When I worked with Cuja in my ice, who's four
or five platinum all the time asking me to get
in our shop, shall I had to have like.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
A team meeting and they were like, yo, we don't
wrap this. I was like, yo, say my ile, I'm
trying to come up.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
I could They're not doing that one are the other guys?
Like everybody's good. Everybody do what they do. Din with
this DJ one of the greatest producers class raptors Diamonds.
He DJ's the forty five joints Our call up on
his shows. Uh, Vanessa's doing this thing. He DJ's and produced.
He just produced the album like last year, two years ago.
(16:44):
He did the remixes, the motign. You got to check
that ship out. So he did all that Marster James
shit over but with hip hop vats for everybody. Oh
see everybody out there and buck wild but wild, give
y'all woke. That's a Hall ofm classic.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Ch Liz you were man.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Even Chaln, whoa Senner would now wouldn't follow like Senner,
wod it?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
What step? Fuck you? Whoa?
Speaker 8 (17:10):
What did he say?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
That was about the site raped collected in the lid effect.
Who shout out to Dezel, shout out Statia. Nobody's doing
it right now. Nobody came together as a click.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I said, like, yeah, I used to do it more
so back on the days, a lot of rappers used
to hang out together.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
You see free styles or X you fix punk everybody like,
we don't really.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
See the camaraderie like that, like not just doing music together,
but hanging out and building together, and you would just
build on it.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
He was coming to my sessions a lot. He knocking
out four five joint speed session.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I'm coming to his session the same thing, and were like, Yo,
let's just form this collective because we had so much
energy together.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
We just wanted to put it out to the world packaging.
Damn right, that was that needed. I see from Only
Love Jungle Brother's Trap a Quest.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
They lost everybody, different crews, but everybody got together and
it made some mean classics.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
It was a nation like unless not hip hop was
so hip hop. When I got turned off by hip
hop and I moved to Miami was when everybody started fight.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I never forget. I'm sorry, guys, I don't want to
keep bringing us up. But I was your jersey through
the flag the flag I was. I was your jersey
in Maja Cuzie and I'm listening to High ninety seven
and out here even Ji Jones or Cameraon say Yo,
that nigga knows smack this kofie off.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
That's when that that was it for me.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
That was like Yo, I pulled out a white flag.
I said, we'll moving to Miami. I can't take this
ship no more because they were violating pharaohs, the kings
of Egypt and hip hop. It just came a time
when New York was just violating each other so much
where I was.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Like, yo, I grew up. Let me tell you a
fun fact that you don't know something you never heard before.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Right if you look closely to black sheets, video engine
engine number, I'm one of the guys.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Y'all pick it up, pick it up, pig it up,
back on the singe. Chris, get like an extra. I
better find that everybody's video. Everybody was in my room.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Out there, Flow Joe Great, nice game, beating nuts game,
Grand Football came, fucking Dona Dean from Neus. Everybody came,
and I was just the first thronging I ever had out.
We loved each other and hip We had a type
of camaraderie that was just we didn't care. It was
competition lyriking, but it wasn't.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
It was like, we want to see everybody grow, everybody wing,
We want to support Langa platform to everybody else.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Sh got real funky out here and so you know,
we went. I went to Miami and started that work
to MCALLI Pitt Bull, Rick Ross, Little Wayne. Little Wayne
came from Katrina the Fucked Up the Oneers, he came
to Miami. I was the first one with open arms
to welcome up and date and we all working together
(20:20):
make the songs together, jumping on and I found that
camaraderie while I was down there.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
When I laid all making rings and all that, it
was because everybody was working with each other up here.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
It was sold of like now you know, it's like, oh,
I love social media and I love to watch what's
going on in the world, and I love to know,
but it's ugly out there. Everybody just won't Scot disrespecting
each other, won't Scott. I just be like, yo, wow,
now this now it's like every day, you know, the phone.
(20:57):
I don't know about y'all, but I wake up, thank
you God, say my prayer, and I grab her phone.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
That's how I know. But I'm Jesse. Jasey died. That's
how I know. Canoes, That's how I know.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Way ever, getting this going on for the day now
times out of center, I pick it up all this
girl saying, fuck the other girl.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
This guy he's saying, but it's a really ugly time
in America. Why you laughing? I got confrontation, by the way,
No cat, I got to speech out joking.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
You didn't due.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
We know he was in the video. Her was telling
you you're the need of the cat called this. What
are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Up?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Here's the fucking you are in there? You started.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Everybody's calling me captain. I don't know what is older
than doing that place so'ing like, yo, I don't know
about nothing.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
If he's slowing your brain down a little bit.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
I was telling him for the episode, not even you
the find you James that put it on the thing
when we put the clips, that's the snap.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Who fact I'm in that video. I'm in a bunch
of videos. Or let's say you was here remember the time.
But what I can say is it was a time
we all embraced each other, you know what I mean.
So it's good that y'all got together. They got running
that coligion together, just making you you know, you gotta
(22:30):
make you know. We had an artist on the here.
She's short but feisty, Lola Brooks Lola, and she said
she said, I don't go to.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
The studio to make your hit. That's what me. I
go to make your hit.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Like if that Joe put out a record and you
feel like he shot the video, he put the bath
and they don't blow.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
No, I fail.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I'm not playing with these people. I don't throw them out,
but throw them out. But she said she go in
the studio and just make music because she got to
get it off out of her sister, right you know?
And that that that's mean right there? You know where
I never heard nobody break it down like that where?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
And it's true.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
You know, us as the artist is therapy. We want
to get certain shit out, we want to do certain
things show it's like therapy.
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Speaker 3 (25:39):
When it comes to y'all, right, so I didn't know
much about mos Na Bo. Yeah, Yams, Yeah he's step yeahs.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Like I didn't know Yams or could you describe how
he came a part of the team and how he
influenced the people, Because I see y'all be having like
Yams day and I see mad artist me in love
yets like you know, on on social media to tell
me about him and his contributes to are always sat pass.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
So with Yeams, he made a.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
SAT like he started a SAP along with Jus and
like a few other guys Mari, Me and Rocky joined
like two years later.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
So it was just a collective of creative people and
it was like a bunch of teams on Halem before
a SAP. So Tiana was down with a crew called
Team Nerd that.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
She started that Yams was a part of, and I
was part of a crew called Hall of memby Rocky
was a part of a crew called a Million Dollar Babies.
And then when the crew started to fade out of Harlem,
we formed a SAP where we all came together as a.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Staty so yems that's what he did too.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Yeah, because I've seen a lot of respect from him,
a lot of high phrase and stuff like that, and
so I never knew what he really did.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
But Yams also worked with Dipset and he worked with
our early Magaze be So he used to like work
with kring Civil pack up all the CDs. He used
to be in the books reading like all of the
the articles on music. So he was like our an r.
He was basically like Jedi, Yeah, Jedi when came out
(27:15):
of music.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Let me tell you something right now, Okay, want me
to go, you don't want me to go. It's some
ship right now? Do you tip you? We just talked
about hip hop.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You know how disgusting it is in the monscular world
right now, I just called an algorithm in La by
mistake is mad old school killer rats like your man,
what's the man who told the jonk Gotti send me
the bull. But it's a bunch of them, right all
rats and they up here with podcasts, the people following them.
(27:51):
And this is so crazy to me that you know,
I feel like Coaster nostru the masia created the snitches,
get stitches, yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
And trickle down to the hood like y'all mind your
business this.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I've seen this rat nigga man, he said, he called
out somebody who's skill a boss.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Ooh there you got. I don't know, he said, you got,
but listen to this. You got a week to get
him touch him his a wrack talking to like a
ma fia Dono was still boss. You gotta week.
Speaker 11 (28:25):
The respond on the twelve shot, this is coming out.
We're gonna start with the depth Shodnie Wilkinson.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I seen Yumpf.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
He's on the instagramt talk about he donna talk about
murders that these guys committed and nobody, you better talk
to me.
Speaker 11 (28:43):
I'm gonna tell him about And did you see the comments?
They was like, no, I never knew Johnny Rukerson was
killed by the ball. I thought, I'm just picking the name.
He ship made hip hop look like someday school bro.
I look at that, he said, I said, oh no.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
They got a problem. This ship is a problem.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
We think that were looking at what's going on in
hip hop because you got a whole society of that, right,
you know. But the mafia got a problem. So back
to the music. I heard something and I told you
real quick, I said, Yo, this ship.
Speaker 8 (29:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
The thing about you is your Clowes is your most
famous bar in job. Sure nigg on my dicto, uh,
sure niggas on my dic tone.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Every flash, I suga dit no, oh yeah, I look
like Typtos. But I don't know. That was all the
honey's been coming up to me saying that just that's
(29:53):
the honey. The real niggas just sticks all. Yeah, let
me tell them like typt.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I wouldn't even dick that you ah nah, I know
when you in the clubs, that's the that's the biggest.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
They dropped the music. Every time he goes no there
feeling like it is what he Yeah, come on, you.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Know it's certain things and certain stores you know what's
not got to do with a little monad?
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Which one is your see what the model for a
year and a half. I love that story. Fuck you
talking about what's in the next episode. I take my
classes on.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
I don't already want to shoot with my classes on?
So routway do we do the next episode from it's
not saying from utfo And as you gagd wrap up
the doctor? You know them niggas was nice to jump.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Shoot me like Gary. Then it was the airpis. It
was way too early for them to have them them flows.
It's in that cool fee though.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Lester walls down. I'm pitching the shirt. Baby, I bet
I'm here for guys. It's a good chance. I gotta
deal with me for another ten twenty y'all got twenty on, y'all.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Let me change something.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
As long as my sugar stayed down, my lust the
water or that, Oh y'all gonna deal with fat Joe
to you about seventy years old, some shit like that,
you wouldn't know what's crazy. There's one guy who's still
keep bitch. Tracy Morgan begs me every time he sees
with Joe. He needs some money.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
What you know invested every time. I'm gonna see him
at the Linco game.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Tonight, Joe and I invest in something. You need some money,
you know. It's the nicest guy you've ever seen. Come
to my store shops botch it for the customers. He
walks out of Medicine Square Guard, and he see a
dude they used to doing.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
It's like, yo, I'm homeless this. He was like, bro,
they do that, but to me. I ain't do that
to you. I remember.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
I they think you gotta forget No, nigga, we was
all broke and you my friend was abusing me when
we was broke.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I don't give a part of the guys like when
you're rich. He was like, fuck you. I don't care.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
Now.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I don't know if I got the heart to do
that one. I do you do you don't.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
I get you back down now, I get a back
pulled up in a fucking five hundred thousand dollars with
with some first shit and all that.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
They gotta look at me. They've been doing this forever.
The guys who used to bully me in junior high school,
they all work in like Madison Square Guard. You ain't
saying they scalpust forever. And so when I pull up,
they opened the doors. Now your crab put up.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
You'll remember me? Do you remember me from Nolton Street Chief.
We used to be down back in the things that
happens all the time.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Besides your dad, who's so many your biggest influences in fashion.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I don't even think your style. I think your style
is eraror based like you. It's not off, no people,
it's off for time. So for time.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah, era era, for sure, that'sn't I would have to
say everybody from the eighties and early nineties, early two thousands. Yeah,
I was looking at a lot of I mean, first
drug Dealer was like going through the Fast magazine seeing
the old pictures of Richard Quarter and you know all
(33:35):
the guys. And then my uncle his friends, Yeah, how
my moms and they used to carry themselves very classic fly.
And then like when the rappers, I started seeing the
rappers movement in group man like it was just like
you were the first person I seen with like a
million ps, like in your crib, Like when I see him,
(33:58):
we kill fucking that lay not the brand Jordan.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
They had they game it on locking La so they
had drops and all the stores different drops.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Then him was gonna shoot, shoot. I run up.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Are so many stores in La. Now I got security
in La. God bless that Jordan not died and that
this is the one place I got three security strapped
to death. I'm not playing with them right. So but
when I walk up with rich player, me and three
fucking securities, they thinking this is the terror Sward for real.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
So I'm just walking in the store and I'm like, Yo,
where's sack. I need a side swept. They're like, yo, ship,
don't come off with nick. I need that.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I did that to one final store that I get
a phone calls Reggie from Jostern.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Joe, you got to stop. We ran down on every store,
like going into it. I go into the closet and
when he got the fucking they was not trying to
get in your purples. Uh lace the furse.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I went into the storage. Sorry, twelve, you know that's true.
Was it like East l A or something like that.
The girl was looking at me like, yo, what's calling.
The more to the story is I love collecting sneakers,
so I had to have it. And so I got
the call from Regie. He said please making you jarhard.
(35:20):
Come to my old chel then he give you everything
you want. You can't keep running down on these stores
like you do it now it's doing.
Speaker 12 (35:25):
You need the hell of you.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
He send me four unions. You know I actually put
this dollar. Everybody send you. I ast you over the house,
did I ain't you?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
You got you.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Stole the Jeff Hamilton everything you don't sneakers and ship
like don't ever.
Speaker 10 (35:49):
You know.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
One time, one time I'm on tour being Nelly game
Ow Wow, Snoop, Kerry Hilse, a bunch of people and
this dude came to say, y'all want y'all to come
to my store.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
And get whatever you want to free.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Your niggas took the nails off the chair like niggas
just walking up there when Sosati then they had no store.
Well if finished the game by Watters, Joe, nissas just
taking shick.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
You didn't taking the sticks office like yo, they wiped them.
Thank you brother. You looked out there the man. I know,
no more store in Australia. Niggas still everything. I'm from
that school, you know. I shout out to the system.
What was her name?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
You was funting like you knew or the girl she
mark from U April foot Front told you about the fuck.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yes, but let me figure out the foot locker, do
you no way?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Just yesterday I got invited by the brand killing you.
You know, Killian Hennessy is a brand I've been using forever.
Colognes went up in there and giving me favorous shit,
and I'm like, y'all I love this, that, that and
these kinds of things too, rich rich players like yo,
I love this flavor.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I love that he called it this burple Force. It
was like the Golden chap He was like this man, okay,
let me tell you what happened.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I did to tell you that other part of the
story of your part too. I go in the closet,
I get to later Force. I woke up, girls looking
at me like, she look at me like, are you doing?
She don't give a fuck. She don't play that. But
you know, spec Joe and security is acting like anybody
acting like they haven't wanted right to be honest with you.
(37:42):
So she's looking like, you know, right as I'm leaving,
which turns right and goes she know he's sides ten.
I said, oh, this is when Robin. The place goes
back like I already see. I got lucky with the
twelve which player turns around the coach Joe. After this,
(38:03):
she's like, they don't come out to next month.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
This, this, this, this, this, I'm like this.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
You needed that.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
He got it. She can'ts up.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
He went to kill you and shout out to kill you.
And I loved the cologne, soho uh took care of me. Uh,
mister killy, and thank you so much. I've been a
big fact. So I used to use this Cravens called
Beyond Love, right and they were running out. They said
it discontinue, and I bought me a fucking battle a
(38:35):
barrel of it might have been twenty thousand dollars a
batrele a beyond Love and every day, you know, for years,
I was just you know, because if you like me,
if you love Franks, when they tell you it's on
from length, I got another brand. I used dat discontinue
that man, I what to do. Buy bought every job
(38:56):
you could think. I mean, I got about forty or
fifty bottles in the house, like I can't. I don't
even think I live long enough.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
To spray that ship when I'm addicted to a flavor.
I gotta have that ship. And you telling me it's over,
it's never coming back. Just continue. That's how to get
us for the MX nine five all the time. The
neon green come out and be like last run, I
go get nine pair, yo, I need nine pair. That's hot.
(39:24):
Did that just the other day? We love that.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
We love it them dray them shocks and gray and
yellow joints, gray, white and yellow off of us.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Somebody gave me, what's the girl? My girl?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
She worked for character licenmed girl name. That's disrespect. I
sing that at the All Star Game. But my husband
got a cloth in mind. He did collaborate night.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
I wed all day. I gotta find these ship. These
ships are like sweat being gray and the orange. You're
fare what's that ship?
Speaker 12 (39:56):
They set you a pair too? For the palace, Dude,
the palace, dude, they got the in the grade. Yes,
it was apparent. It was the apparel of the sneakers,
the sneakst niggers the palace. That what's the same shoot
a steep Victor did DNA hellas did when I was flying.
It's gray and grand alice, yo.
Speaker 13 (40:13):
Matter of fact, that's like a Jadakis sneaker. No bullshit,
that's the Jadakiss sneaker. Well, you know, Jada Kiss, I
never even do this, like designer says.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
So I threw them on the day. My daughter was like, look, Dad,
throw them all. That's the that's the Jadakiss stick to
hear this guy. So that's what I'm saying. He made
one of those skinny people. I'm troubling. I can't even
alice the where we get it from? Man, Yeah, let
me tell you so.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
So let us know when the projects coming out. Flip
for short exam with the lux here the lux I
want to play something for y'all. Let's go play something, baby,
send me to find that. Are you on the de
Luxe Telor came on in them all? And you know
I got this massage chair. It picks me up in
(41:03):
the air. Massage is my ass.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Let me tell you something. He's a massage chair. And
I shout off some momem sage therapists. But you know
I'm in that chair listening to that. Seana Taylor that
that Jorge you on Agreements. I can't wait to hear
mister Blade that on the show.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
She gotta release Well, man, she's doing big ship right now,
lonely globes. And then he said little. I said, gee,
I know, at ten years old working for me, she's
one of the only people that ever rang up on me.
I'm gonna be things. I'm gonna be a start. I'm
gonna this used to have a little biking haul of
(41:57):
them and pull up on me. I'm going to be
down with for real. I'm gooda she did all that ship,
This ain't that and this cracked kids get some noise
preferred baby.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
But I want to give you all, y'all flowers, man,
because y'all doing the amazing work. Because y'all been doing
it for hunteen years. Y'all show all of us how
to do it. How then keep got integrity, how to
move and groove in the game, stay alive and drive
because y'all not just being alive.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
I appreciate y'all. I love y'all. Thank y'all for inspiringly.
What's the news? Gay? You know what I'm saying, Jada,
that's the intro. Every now and then we might need
that little click name of the album.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Flip on, Shorty, Flip on Shorty, right now, uptown baby,
Deluxe Away that's go
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