February 26, 2026 • 37 mins
During their trip to Los Angeles, Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Lefty Gunplay, the first Latino artist to take home the Grammy for Best Rap Song for his "TV Off" collaboration with Kendrick Lamar. Lefty tells Joe and Jada about what it meant for Kendrick to put a rapper like him on, his upbringing in the Los Angeles gang culture, the way he'd like to inspire other Latinos to come together with the Black community, and the moment he called Top Dawg and Kendrick to tell them he was checking into rehab.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I was talking to all the women. I told him,
you know what, fuck it, I'm gonna go to rehab.
And then I called top Dog and tndack lamartin. He said,
that's the most gangster ship you ever said. Yeah, yeah,
(00:23):
what up y'all? This is Joe Crack the Dawn.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Your boy Jada know what it is.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
They just came with the outfit change.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Ain't tell me.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
No, I'm telling you like cool. Tell what side.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
He's lost out twenty twenty six, No mighty pop out never, No,
you know what I mean. It's the Joe and Jadas show,
every show legendary, every show iconic. And you think of
today's guests, you think it's some he was able to
overcome adversity. Somebody's about changing their life, you know what
(01:06):
I mean, getting to the bag, getting the mental health together,
doing the right.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Thing, getting the music, popping brand me winner. You off
been nominated, but not. It's hard to win one of
them things.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Ye ladies and gentlemen make some noise for a lefty
gun play.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Ain't having me? So my brother brother is the honor
to have you.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
We're in LA and we said they don't get no
more LA.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
The gun play Lefty right now at this moment, and
my brother game and so we touched saw you. We know,
you know this is the Joe and Jadas show. We
about the culture, and we said, let's bring our brother on.
What's crazy is I didn't see the Grammys. My wife
saw it that She called me.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
She was like, Yo, you know guy screaming latino on
the Grammy? Yeah he want is my wife calling me
telling me that you won the Grammy. So you win
the Grammy?
Speaker 6 (02:08):
What's so important about you saying yo, ken joke put
a latito on.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I just want the homies understanding.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
He gave me a platform, and it's been something that's
so hard to do in Los Angeles too, you know,
break into the rap game as a Latino. And you
know Kendrick Reid, you know Black and Brown Unit, he
had his finance right there. It don't get no bigger
than that. And I appreciate him for giving me that platform.
I got the barn.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I'm running with it. I ain't looking back, right, you know,
one of the living legends.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
So many kids it look like me in the hood,
you know, and just I'm glad to represent the people
in the right way.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
There's one of the Latino legends from out here one time.
I don't want to say his name because he's beyond
a legend. But he come and I take him to
the Bronx to hang out with me. You know, we
in the Bronx so very different. This is what I
want to talk to you about. Some people can visualize
and understand what's going on. Very different in the West Coast, unfortunately,
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between the Latinos and blacks, like in New York, everybody's
a mixed baby. Everybody's black and Puerto Rican. And so
he comes with us and I'm just showing him a
good time. We had Jimmy's Ross Cafe, and he asks me, Yo,
you fuck with the black people? And I looked at him, like,
because I might as well be black. I don't know
how to explain it to you any other way. So
(03:28):
I looked at him and say, Yo, what you mean?
He said, out West, we don't fuck with the black dude.
I said, well, I can't fuck with you no more, man,
because that's not what we on here, right And I
didn't even understand that's Fowjoe Tom or some shit like that.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I think I know who ain't talking about.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Whoa, it don't matter. Yeah, he's a legend. But he
told me, yo, we don't fuck with the black dudes.
I said, well, I can't fuck with you. That was
the last time I ever rocked with him, even though
he is a legend and he's a pioneer somebody who
started it. But that's when I started to realize that
there's parts of the country that Latinos and blacks and
connected like that.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
And so that's what you meant when you went up there.
You said, Yo, this brother gave me a chance. Let's unify, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Stronger together, and you ain't gonna get nowhere and rap
if you ain't cool and on blacks, you know, it's
it's their culture, you know. And they allow me to,
you know, make money off this. And more homies are
following in my footsteps, you know, And I appreciate everything
changing with more did for me and changed my life.
You know.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
I always said that the biggest rap on Earth, it's
gonna be a Mexican rapper if he finds a way
to let I always tell you that Steve, Steve lobels here,
the biggest rap on Earth, It's gonna be a Mexican
American rapper the fucks with black people, fucks with everybody
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and just makes music for everybody.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It's gonna have the whole world.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Yeah, in the sense you leading that in the in
the in the footsteps, and you know we already got that.
The point of it so on was body more than that.
I mean, Latinos and blacks together. So I've always been
about that. You pay the way, good looking brother. Tell
me about the Mexican experience in La bomb Park, A
(05:15):
lot of ganggang you know.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I got jumped into my neighborhood when I was thirteen
years old, juvenile hall prison, live a real life, you know,
really about that life. And I was sitting in Pelican
Bay and I'm like, man, you know, just a moving
cycle was in Quirking Shoe, Pelican basedow and I've seen
oh jeez, he's a rapper out here. I said I
(05:38):
could do that. And I said, man, I'm gonna break
the cycle. I'm gonna be a rapper, fuck it, you know,
and then the rest is history. I manifested everything. I've
seen it in my head. I ran with it, you know,
but just you know, real Latino neighborhood, like point the
bomb Park, West Camina, the Wante you know, just ain't
nothing coming out of there, just gang bang, you know,
(05:58):
try to make a change.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Do you see that you're influencing the young Mexicans to
start rapping and start trying to definitely change and be positive.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, definitely, man, follow your dreams, anythings possible. That's real talk.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Not only did you want to grant me if you
want it, have to get released from prison?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
How does that feel?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
What kind of space did it make me want to?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Man?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
It said, it's a dream come true. It's a trick.
It still hasn't really hit me yet. Now it's amazing.
You look great that night too. Boy you do that
ship on? Do that ship on, boyl. Yeah, I appreciate
you all. Man. Yeah, I've been in the last six months.
I've been in rehab, sat up to the hey in
Detar's Frank sitting Korell. I've been right there getting my
mind right. You know how hard is that? Right?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Like how long you was on drugs?
Speaker 6 (06:43):
And it's I'm glad you're not ashamed of that because
that's how.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
You really inspire it. Yeah, as fuck music, fuck all that,
that's your real purpose to turn that ship around somebody
like Jelly Ro.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
You see how he is scared to say, yo, I
was fucked up. I was using drugs and he inspired
so many people. And now you're the biggest in the game.
You gotta realize more people relate to that. Like I
lost the brother the drugs. He wouldn't get off drugs.
When did you start? How did that come about? And
when did you finally say, yo, I'm I gotta stop
(07:16):
doing this.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Man. I've been doing drugs and it's like I was thirteen,
just in that gang culture. It's just something that that's
always around in county and prison, and I became depending
on it. And you know, ever since I got sober.
But I was blowing everything. I was blowing all this opportunity.
I got in a car crash, got into a lot
of trouble. What kind of drugs were everything? Everything? Christ O, heroin,
(07:38):
cod what's more addictive? Crystal heroin, heroine not liquor balanced
it out. I was just blowing on my opportunity. Everybody's
all like, man, you gotta once in a lifetime opportunity
and you.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Throwing it away.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I was at a Chiney concert. It was a chiny
Eve dar Rule concert and I was talking to all
of the women. I told him, you know what, fucking
I'm gonna go to rehab. And then I called top
Dog and Tndic Lamartin. He said, that's the most gangster
ship you ever said. You know.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
So I'm rehabing Miami. You know, stop cold turkey.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Knowing that I was Grammy nominated, popped up like the
boogey Man, everybody tripped out. Nobody thought I could change
my ways, but I did a day at a time. Brother,
I'm bailing you much for that. The hardest thing about
it is trying to write now sober. I'm very trying to.
(08:32):
I made all my hits sober, all the lean backs,
make your reins all the way ups, any fucking eat
you ever heard in your life? Sober letting Nobody tell
you you gotta be hoigh to write not true. If
you can do it, I can do it. Yes, you
got it. That's what I'm saying. That's exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's gonna take a minute, but then once you get it, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
It's the truth. Sitting here with you, guys, I was
just bunking in New York last night. Yeah, I love
right there. I told you on West Side Terrace, bar
Man Western Terry squar.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
And motherfucking if you saying that, and you bought that
life nigga, because we bought that light. Shout out, Steven Tay,
shout out. I think of you because you Mexican. I
think of hip hop.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You know.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
Of course, Cipher Steels inspired me and Punt. Yeah, they're
the first ones to inspires us on all saying all
of them. Mister cartoon.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah. Do you know mister Carr legendary yup, yup, shut out?
What a fucking legend, mister Carch Hell yeah, west Hard.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
You know me personally, every time I came to l A,
you know, I was more towards Inglewood shout out. You know,
mac Ten, I do believe, and this is something that
everybody could argue with me. But we had something to
do with the East coast West coast connecting because it
was at the time Big Ee Pok died. There was
(10:05):
a couple of more New York and West Coast beefs
going on and being mac Ten met each other and
we became brothers. I came out here and shot a
movie with him called Thinke of the Water in Inglewood, okay,
and they ain't came to my hood. And what's crazy
is I never knew there was bloods in New York
(10:27):
when I grew up. It wasn't bloods, it wasn't crips,
it wasn't none of that.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
He came to my projects and when I say you,
all them kids started running outside with the red suits
on and hats, and it was like, yo, g oh
j That's.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
When I knew we had bloods in New York. I
didn't even know it, and I was in the street.
So I brought him a lot of projects and everybody
running out the building like yo o g o g og.
I was like, oh shit, we got bloods New York.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, been in New York. Just a trick. The tensions
out there, just projects. They tell him, whatever you do now.
Difference between that, don't walk in LA and here man
out here. Every every blocks of gang, you know, pretty
much every blocks of game. You'd be somewhere nice right here.
You make it right, you know, you beating some cribs,
some blood, some essays. You know, I'm a slang so
(11:15):
I'm the South Sider out here. I reprexentple.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, New York.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
They drove me around the projects and ship towers. Don't
walk up in here at midnight left me. I said,
for sure, you looking out.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
What's so fucked up that if you was on drugs
you would walk up in there at any time to
get the drugs. So when you're on drugs, you in
the most dangerous neighborhood, you don't give a fuck. You
gotta get the ship.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
You're right.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
It's the same thing with places like oh, Miami too, Miami,
you could be a southeat.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
You make a left turn, you and fucking pomp pomp,
you and pompa No, but that's with you in Liberty City,
all that ship over town. Yeah, Liberty City, man, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
I lit My last crib was fifty thousand of the month,
a pen house. I went walking two blocks. I was
in the overtown nigga. They was out in the middle
of the street. It's so crazy how you got places
that look like paradise but you make the wrong turn.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Help. Yeah, hell yeah, I feel that. Plus somebody, I'm
Bellington States right now in Texas and Cali. So I've
been doing the right thing, trying to stay focused on
finding gun charging fighting some shit in Texas I learned
my lesson. I all the restaurant in Texas somewhere. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Shout out to my brother baby Bashing, Franky J. You
heard of these guys?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I know, Baby Bash, I mad person, Sugar. How you
get so flying? Sugar?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
How you get so?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Those are my guys.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
And every time I went to uh, Texas, Man, they
showed me the best time in the world.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
These are beautiful guys. Yeah, and they met a man
they put down for the Mexican's legendary those guys. But
Texas is weird because you got a gun charge. But
I don't think you need a license for a gun charge.
So is it because you're a felon? When they said that,
you was like, yo, everybody can have a gun. And
then they like, not you, my man? You national base.
(13:20):
At this point, I don't think you're thinking nine to five, right,
you think a wrap?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
You thinking yeah, entrepreneur, get money.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Get this, get that so and fast. Did you think
about taking your tattoos off your face at all? Never? Never? Uh?
But that's why they stopped you in texts. Here's the
story of my life, though, Bro, You.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Ever thought about you ever thought about a cop. We
so criminal minded. We never think about the other side
all the time driving in Texas. He's seeing him.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
That's how I knew he had the gun. He's seen
the tattoos. You say, oh, lod this nigga from the
other side of town. Let me pull yo, my man.
What you got there? Right? So it's part of your image,
is part of everything to do every day.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, legit.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
You gotta get a real security in a couple of dollars. Yeah,
we got real security, the real guys with the real
guns and leads. You okay, no, my guy, shoot your
face off. Wait with me, sir, Okay, thank you, Steve.
Shoot your fun. That's how you gotta move, you know. Yeah, security,
you got legit security. Be legit that way, because if
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you bring the crew, they thinking they're impressing you, they
shoot the place up.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Don't play lefty on the news. Happened to me one
million times. I've been in jail because of this raft
Ship d one. I've been in jail maybe thirty times.
And ship I didn't even do. They was just like
bringing all the honies.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
That Joe, he's that Joe.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Where you bring the hunt to rise and something happens yeah,
it's on left no matter how you how about you
don't even bring the on to Roger. You're in the wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
But you in the soul House and you run out
of here, they be like, lucky Lefty beat everybody up
in here.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yo, this this You're always gonna get to blame.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Guess what we was talking about a story behind the
scenes of you know, we we had sham Guard and
Jaylen rose Er also Jalen Roy last night. He's with
Jayleen last night here.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
So I asked, my man, sham Guard, Right, there's a guy,
you know, I used to coach basketball in the Rucker,
one of the big the best coaches ever, actually the
best coach of all time. Yeah, six chips. And I
get to talk to to sham Guard and I bring
up a player. So there was a player who was
(15:51):
in high school that was going to the NBA from
New York City who I don't know if I should
say that right now, because I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
He's in I don't know.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
I'll say his name, Richie Parker. Rich Parker one of
the best basketball players out of New York. She's supposed
to go to the to the NBA. There was no
question no doubt that he was doing. Some girl allegedly
got raped by some guys he knew, and because he
was the star of the basketball team, allegedly she had
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choosed him. It was like some tupah, I can't rape
that girl, but some guys they might have did something
too much, and then he caught the blame. So this
is what I mean that you know, people could do shit,
and it's always our fault if we're famous and were
on the forefront, and one day it's crazy because hob
(16:50):
I never met a better gentleman in the street basketball
league or in the park. To Richie Parker, I never
met a nice guy in my life.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
And his mother was a fan. She come up all
the ruck again to that a mound. One day.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I sat next up. I see your mama, I said,
how you doing this today? I'm still watching the game.
And she just looked up and she was like, he's
supposed to be bitch, I said her, mama. She said,
we're supposed to be bitch. But she didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
We would have been in that could you imagine we'd
have been in mansions, we'd have been yo. That shit
hurt me when that leg Yeah, I thought that, you
know what I'm saying, and so you know, that's why
it's so important that we got to move militant life happened.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I wasn't signing with otr oh Man. I sung with
him my first week out of prison. You know, they
gave me the money, and in the beginning, I thought
they were stupid giving me that money because you ain't
the only one. Yeah, we all thought like that. Yeah,
like shit, I'm about to go back to the pen.
And then I took that money in next thing. You know,
(17:58):
I'm right here, grant Me nominated one of grant Me
blowing up, you know, through the roof. So I'm getting
my contract situated right now. But yeah, it's bigger things ahead.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
You know what happened, went out outside the terror squad
deal with that fanic record I turned. It was ten
million dollars. We negotiated all night. Yo, See why you
lie laughing because we negotiating all night. They wouldn't let
me leave. It was like, you can't leave Leon Cohen's outside.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Have you ever?
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Record label were exactly dying for Fact Joe to come
outside cause I just put our big bun. He's going
double platinum. They're like, Yo, this nigga got the Latino explosion.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, we gotta sign whatever stand it's got, Like it
was like that, so they wouldn't let me leave.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
We wind up getting ten million dollars.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Shoot it. I felt like I stuck that nigga up,
like you ain't never see your life. I was like,
yoll being while we was up in there. I thought
we stuck him up. The man gave us that money
and jumped on the subway like nothing. He walked in
the subway up like yo, this didn't give us this
paper walked on the subway twelve midnight.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
But I know the feeling because you've been doing shit
so much for a dollar, yeah or two dollars, motherfucker,
give you.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
A real check. You feel like, who did we want?
Like that, what did we gotta do? What's going on?
Because ain't nobody giving us no ship for nothing? Legitly
in the hood, I was running around the hood with
like two hundred bands in a in a double bag
straight fifty seven moment went to the car place looking
in the may bag cash first week out, pushing the
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maybag in the hood straight out the trailer park. You
that's case, Yeah, clapping it up for that. You know.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
That's what we're all about. Big life. We're all about
celebrating life. Were all about.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Let me tell you something, ain't nothing like that feeling
when you get that first wad from rapping and on
the freeway and just buy yourself like, man, it's my
shat like it's not that you know for you know,
for me, that was like when I caught that vaccine
for COVID. I was stuck in the house for a
year and a half and when they gave me that vaccine,
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I was like, looks like we made it. I thought
I was going die niggas was dying in the hoods
so much, and they gave me that vaccine. I ran
over there so fast. I have my hand out the
something roof like, looks like we made it. But I
know the feeling and there's nothing like doing something legit. Yeah,
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there's nothing that we all made money, you know, literally,
but legit, it's nothing like it feels good and you
in your car and you feel like damn.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
And that's what life's about.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
You all the moll and my grandma. You want breaking
on my mom? First time I do is buy her car.
You know, let me tell you the next thing, you're
gonna buy your mother a house. Yeah, that's coming.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That's where it's at.
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Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, let me tell you something. I did a lot
of things. I just told you, and I'm not bragging
about a ten million dollar check. I used to fly
private planes like it was a tax. Like I used
to be like, we want Puerto Rican food, Let's go
to Puerto Rico, like it was a joke.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
I'm just spending all kinds of money, forty niggas with me,
lobsters and stakes, buying thirty niggas, trucks, cats, this, this.
I did all that shit when I caught the tax
problem and I had to sell every day, and I
had to do whatever I had to do. I had
to give the government back millions of dollars and pay
my lawyer. It was one thing untouchable. It was called
(24:11):
my mother's house.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I would have sold every piece of jewelry, every art,
every house, every sneak, everything you ever seen, a fucking
toothpaste to pay them back. Don't talk about my mother's house.
And my mother's house wasn't even that special, guys. It
was a nice, little regular house that I bought for
my mother and my father. But I remember every single
(24:34):
time I pull up to my mother's house, I felt like,
even to this day, my house is that bitch, right.
And I used to pull up to my mother's house
just last year because she passed away and I felt
like that was the biggest house, the biggest shit.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
I ever did it in my life. I was sit
in front of the house and be like, Wow, my
mom got a house. You know what I'm saying, that's
the biggest ship. Praise God. You put your mother and
father some ship condo. He screamed that you for buying
it for this is accounting this father, Fuck you for
(25:16):
buying it. But okay, thanks for the key. Son, your
eyes all up.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Left to you.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I see you in the studio, crazy Bone. I was
just with Game last night, no doubt. What's your process
like in the students. I like to write from Scraps.
I like to hear the beat, write from scraps. I've
been in the studio with Mike and Cheese Breast, Scott
Storage probably yeah, this is right from Scraps, right my
(25:44):
story and can we expect? So man, I'm dropping soon.
I got enough songs for an album. We're gonna go
to New York.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Fore you right now, nobody's gonna give you that ship,
like Scott Storch, Nobody now for what you want, not
for that la that's.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Still Drew Remain. This is how we do fuck Scott
Stork did that. Yeah, he remained at beat.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
He did all that.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Huh A genius. N gave you that ship. If you
got that, Scott's gonna be right in the pocket for you.
I'm telling you that's that's We got studio timing him tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Oh that's a no brainer.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
That's that's right there.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
He's gonna give you that.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah. They just hear me from the studio. Is all
Roddy Rigs and Scott Storage. Roddy Rich is a motherfucking beast. Yeah,
Roddy called me. He's all like, name's doing it for
the culture. Bro, Like we gotta link up. I'm like
for sure, right, Rich, don't do that out of the park. Yeah, Yeah,
Roddy Rich, he's he's he's a fucking incredible guy.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
He's a genius.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Man. You know that should be great you and him
and Scott stort I said, you put Stortch with with
Roddy Rich. I've seen him in the studio with him
the other day. That's great, man.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Yeah, that ship is gonna banks the Niggasias.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Theyre going hot to that ship. Boy, Like he's gonna
give you that.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Documentary. Listen said.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Everywhere. He said, all that nobody's gonna get you, that
nobody gonna tomorrow. We got here boys, Scott Storage, Fresh Bankogotti,
all like four producers in one studio. Yeah, lot of expectations.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
You give me that.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
My mom's my tin. Now, my mom's MASI in Watermelin.
My dad's white. But he left me when I was two.
He moved to Florida, and we've seen. I was in
Florida the other day and he came convisioning me and
I didn't even recognize him, you know. But so you
think after you got successful he came to visit you. Uh? Yeah,
because ever since I've been successful, I've been out of jail.
(27:57):
So I've always been in jail my whole life. Did
you forgive them for leaving you at two years old? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I passed it up, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
I feel like every boy, every man leads their dad.
Like anybody who tells you that you don't need about
the dad, huh about the girls?
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
The girls too.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
But what I'm saying is.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
You need a father figure, man to straighten you out,
to make you go the right path, to be there
for you when you need a man in your life
that's why I was in the hood, because I didn't
have one. I looked at the homies for that good job.
You know, that shit felt good getting in from the homies.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
So that's what I was putting in so much work,
you know, good job, good job, good job, you know,
chasing a father figure that's gonna let me in the
gang bang so much and I realized, you know, I
gotta do something different.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Why they happy for you a homies.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
The homies in the beginning of like my second day
out of prison, gave me a strap boom, you know,
gave me some money and he's like, come on, let's ride.
I'm like, I'm gonna stay right here. What I said,
I'm gonna stay home real quick. I was too embarrassed
to tell him that I'm gonna be a rapper, you know.
And then like a week y'all talking about I'm gonna
be a rapper. He's like, you gonna be a rapper.
(29:21):
I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna be a rapper. He's like, man,
you fucking tripping bro. You're a lok in the hood,
you know, you're one of the ones. And I was
from my hood, but I followed my dream and then
once it worked out, they've seen it, you know, and
now they embraced it. You know. I feel like I'm
the first Latino. They really opened the door toup for
Latinos out here in LA to think the rapping is cool.
(29:42):
And I do it my own way, like I don't
use the N word like, you know, just out of
out of respect, you know, for for for the culture.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
And you know, I'm paying my own way.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
You know what's crazy is I started rapping.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
I got a favorite album and Soul two Men records
with It's cause jealous ones still envy, and I was.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Out here, probably with Steve Lobelt. We started a promo tour.
This would Flow Joe my first record, and we did
our Senior Hall. Okay, our Senior Hall was the biggest
shit in America. Shot up to Stretch your Arms show
and he invited me there. Sidney Hall was like, yo,
(30:31):
we got Fat Joe in the house. So I went
up there and I performed. I quit the whole promo
tour to get back to my block because I'll see
me it was the big just to be with my
boys and be like yo, I did it.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
So I remember, I went back to New York. The
very next day, I pull up to my block in
the cab and it's five of my best friends that
I grew up since kindergarten. So I'm looking this way
and I jump out the car.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
YO end up jumping up and down, and when they
turned around, three of them had a jealous face. The
other two were jumping.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Up and down like me, and three of them was
looking like fuck got it.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
That's the first time I ever experienced jealous And that's
where the name of that album jealous Ones, Envy and
jealous Ones Still and became from.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Because this game, it comes with a lot of envy
that hoods she gonna get killed. And I know that,
you know, I realized that. So you gotta find a
balance between it. But I see through all the fake love.
You know, now, since I'm successful, there's there's some of
them that are happier of me, and there's some of them.
I know they be talking shit. You know, that's how
(31:47):
you show them with success. My thing is who cares? Right,
God shows you the sober you could see, Yeah, the
fat Joe was to get high, I'd be dead broke
right now. I'm not kidding you.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I'm not lying, and.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
The direct correlation between guys who make it and become
successful and guys who don't.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
It's drugs and that's the difference. So when I look
at Netflix and I see a new documentary by Eddie
Murskey and starts in the ninety million dollar mansion, and he's.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Sitting in there with shipped to the sky and this
and this and that, you look at him and say, y'ard,
I never got high.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
It was stiff a coach in front of me. They
was doing whatever. I ain't do that.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
That's why he's in the ninety million dollar mansion. And
then when you see motherfuckers, you be like, damn, man,
this guy was the greatest.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
This guy was the best.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
This guy there, he ain't got shit. Now how you
start us?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
How you finished? Yop? But what I'm trying to tell
you is this, we got a guy. We got one
of my items. Right. In salsa music, I think the
best sous is singer of all time is called Heck
the level the Lavota content that they made a movie
about him, caller content that Jingo and Mark Anton, Mark Anthony, who.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Probably is the second greatest South I sing ever of history.
Now I'm going to say the birds. One day I
happened to bump into him and the man say, yo,
he was going to he was doing the movie. Heck,
de Lavau was still alive. So he went to his
apartment in Spanish Harlem and said that The man was like, yo,
(33:28):
I had it all.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Apartments with three floors, gold plaques on the wall, cadillacs, this,
this that. Look at me.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I don't have nothing. Mark Anthony was telling me this
story with tears in his eyes.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
He was like, yo, this was my idol and he
was fucked up, and he was telling me that he
used to be that nigga, he used to have that house,
that he used to have that, but when he got
on heavy drugs, it was over. So just know that anybody,
I'm gonna keep it a buck and I could get
backlash for it all I want. Don't let a woman
(34:08):
gash you into using drugs again. Just don't, because you're
some of the greatest god starts. Lost ninety million dollars
because a girl who's the most famous girl in the
world he was fucking.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
With, who.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
Brought a girl with him, another famous girl, and said, Yo,
we're gonna minage woo.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
But sniff this wo.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
I can't, but God starts said. He took that sniff
and it fucked this whole life up. He lost ninety
million dollars fucking with that.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
He got it back, same thing, no thing, same thing with.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
All he got about six.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
What's the ball wing brother that fuck this whole ship up?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I think he's Heally Beaver's father, Ali Bahm No Alec Bolwood.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
He shot the guy that day. That's another ball way,
the handsome one. He used to hang out with us
in the Bronx and Jimmy's. This guy went on CNN.
You could google it.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
They said he was sucking with Madonna. I'll give you
that one because he said it. I don't want that, Stephen,
Stephen Baldwin.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Seeing that.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Huh. He used to come to GM Jimmy's with us
every weeks, fly nigger original Jimmy's Ross Cafe in the
South Bronx for him, the obvious Steve was high around
that time. I don't fucking know, but he was. He yes, Steve,
he got to say his name is. He tells the
story he was hanging out with Madonna.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Same thing.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
She told him, you want to fuck take this cocaine
and to fuck this whole life and that of all
the Baldwin brothers he supposed to.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Google. I just gotta protect you. I was with a
Danny Treyhill yesterday, you know, two days ago, Danny treyholl
And he's a fucking legend gangster. He was telling me like,
you got the world in your hands. You know what's
gonna happen if you go this way, and you know
what's gonna happen if you go this way. So I
don't want to be writing in Pelican Bay, you know.
(36:07):
So I want to recovery meetings with him, you know,
putting in work for the community, trying to get back beautiful.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
What's the name of your album yet, Founting Blue, Fountain Blue?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Why? Why? Why fount the Blue? That's the name of
my trailer, Pard kind of like eight Mile, you know
what I'm saying, what's the one thing you want people
to remember and know? That's the gun play for for
being one of the ones opened the door for the Latinos,
you know, putting off for the culture black and brown unity.
(36:40):
Hopefully I get my own grabby in my own name
and just keep giving back, you know, like nip, you know,
the way, nip did. I really want to get back
to the people. You know, I think I don't think
I'm better than nobody. You know. I want to get
back to the city and all the kids and make
a difference. Are here, Make some noise for that. Just
(37:02):
know this ain't that that, ain't this cracking. Just take
some noise for Lefty gun play.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
You ship.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Any new music or all platforms, get it anything he does.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Make sure you support him breaking boundaries in that space.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Baby out there doing it right there, and then we
gotta support him for all of la over the world,
the world. World.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
It happened, unified, black and brown.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
I've been minching this this day one together with more
powerful than anybody.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Now let's get some sneakers, non
I was talking to all the women. I told him,
you know what, fuck it, I'm gonna go to rehab.
And then I called top Dog and tndack lamartin. He said,
that's the most gangster ship you ever said. Yeah, yeah,
(00:23):
what up y'all? This is Joe Crack the Dawn.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Your boy Jada know what it is.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
They just came with the outfit change.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Ain't tell me.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
No, I'm telling you like cool. Tell what side.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
He's lost out twenty twenty six, No mighty pop out never, No,
you know what I mean. It's the Joe and Jadas show,
every show legendary, every show iconic. And you think of
today's guests, you think it's some he was able to
overcome adversity. Somebody's about changing their life, you know what
(01:06):
I mean, getting to the bag, getting the mental health together,
doing the right.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Thing, getting the music, popping brand me winner. You off
been nominated, but not. It's hard to win one of
them things.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Ye ladies and gentlemen make some noise for a lefty
gun play.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Ain't having me? So my brother brother is the honor
to have you.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
We're in LA and we said they don't get no
more LA.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
The gun play Lefty right now at this moment, and
my brother game and so we touched saw you. We know,
you know this is the Joe and Jadas show. We
about the culture, and we said, let's bring our brother on.
What's crazy is I didn't see the Grammys. My wife
saw it that She called me.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
She was like, Yo, you know guy screaming latino on
the Grammy? Yeah he want is my wife calling me
telling me that you won the Grammy. So you win
the Grammy?
Speaker 6 (02:08):
What's so important about you saying yo, ken joke put
a latito on.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I just want the homies understanding.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
He gave me a platform, and it's been something that's
so hard to do in Los Angeles too, you know,
break into the rap game as a Latino. And you
know Kendrick Reid, you know Black and Brown Unit, he
had his finance right there. It don't get no bigger
than that. And I appreciate him for giving me that platform.
I got the barn.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I'm running with it. I ain't looking back, right, you know,
one of the living legends.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
So many kids it look like me in the hood,
you know, and just I'm glad to represent the people
in the right way.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
There's one of the Latino legends from out here one time.
I don't want to say his name because he's beyond
a legend. But he come and I take him to
the Bronx to hang out with me. You know, we
in the Bronx so very different. This is what I
want to talk to you about. Some people can visualize
and understand what's going on. Very different in the West Coast, unfortunately,
(03:07):
between the Latinos and blacks, like in New York, everybody's
a mixed baby. Everybody's black and Puerto Rican. And so
he comes with us and I'm just showing him a
good time. We had Jimmy's Ross Cafe, and he asks me, Yo,
you fuck with the black people? And I looked at him, like,
because I might as well be black. I don't know
how to explain it to you any other way. So
(03:28):
I looked at him and say, Yo, what you mean?
He said, out West, we don't fuck with the black dude.
I said, well, I can't fuck with you no more, man,
because that's not what we on here, right And I
didn't even understand that's Fowjoe Tom or some shit like that.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I think I know who ain't talking about.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Whoa, it don't matter. Yeah, he's a legend. But he
told me, yo, we don't fuck with the black dudes.
I said, well, I can't fuck with you. That was
the last time I ever rocked with him, even though
he is a legend and he's a pioneer somebody who
started it. But that's when I started to realize that
there's parts of the country that Latinos and blacks and
connected like that.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
And so that's what you meant when you went up there.
You said, Yo, this brother gave me a chance. Let's unify, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Stronger together, and you ain't gonna get nowhere and rap
if you ain't cool and on blacks, you know, it's
it's their culture, you know. And they allow me to,
you know, make money off this. And more homies are
following in my footsteps, you know, And I appreciate everything
changing with more did for me and changed my life.
You know.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
I always said that the biggest rap on Earth, it's
gonna be a Mexican rapper if he finds a way
to let I always tell you that Steve, Steve lobels here,
the biggest rap on Earth, It's gonna be a Mexican
American rapper the fucks with black people, fucks with everybody
(04:49):
and just makes music for everybody.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It's gonna have the whole world.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Yeah, in the sense you leading that in the in
the in the footsteps, and you know we already got that.
The point of it so on was body more than that.
I mean, Latinos and blacks together. So I've always been
about that. You pay the way, good looking brother. Tell
me about the Mexican experience in La bomb Park, A
(05:15):
lot of ganggang you know.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I got jumped into my neighborhood when I was thirteen
years old, juvenile hall prison, live a real life, you know,
really about that life. And I was sitting in Pelican
Bay and I'm like, man, you know, just a moving
cycle was in Quirking Shoe, Pelican basedow and I've seen
oh jeez, he's a rapper out here. I said I
(05:38):
could do that. And I said, man, I'm gonna break
the cycle. I'm gonna be a rapper, fuck it, you know,
and then the rest is history. I manifested everything. I've
seen it in my head. I ran with it, you know,
but just you know, real Latino neighborhood, like point the
bomb Park, West Camina, the Wante you know, just ain't
nothing coming out of there, just gang bang, you know,
(05:58):
try to make a change.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Do you see that you're influencing the young Mexicans to
start rapping and start trying to definitely change and be positive.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, definitely, man, follow your dreams, anythings possible. That's real talk.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Not only did you want to grant me if you
want it, have to get released from prison?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
How does that feel?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
What kind of space did it make me want to?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Man?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
It said, it's a dream come true. It's a trick.
It still hasn't really hit me yet. Now it's amazing.
You look great that night too. Boy you do that
ship on? Do that ship on, boyl. Yeah, I appreciate
you all. Man. Yeah, I've been in the last six months.
I've been in rehab, sat up to the hey in
Detar's Frank sitting Korell. I've been right there getting my
mind right. You know how hard is that? Right?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Like how long you was on drugs?
Speaker 6 (06:43):
And it's I'm glad you're not ashamed of that because
that's how.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
You really inspire it. Yeah, as fuck music, fuck all that,
that's your real purpose to turn that ship around somebody
like Jelly Ro.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
You see how he is scared to say, yo, I
was fucked up. I was using drugs and he inspired
so many people. And now you're the biggest in the game.
You gotta realize more people relate to that. Like I
lost the brother the drugs. He wouldn't get off drugs.
When did you start? How did that come about? And
when did you finally say, yo, I'm I gotta stop
(07:16):
doing this.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Man. I've been doing drugs and it's like I was thirteen,
just in that gang culture. It's just something that that's
always around in county and prison, and I became depending
on it. And you know, ever since I got sober.
But I was blowing everything. I was blowing all this opportunity.
I got in a car crash, got into a lot
of trouble. What kind of drugs were everything? Everything? Christ O, heroin,
(07:38):
cod what's more addictive? Crystal heroin, heroine not liquor balanced
it out. I was just blowing on my opportunity. Everybody's
all like, man, you gotta once in a lifetime opportunity
and you.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Throwing it away.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I was at a Chiney concert. It was a chiny
Eve dar Rule concert and I was talking to all
of the women. I told him, you know what, fucking
I'm gonna go to rehab. And then I called top
Dog and Tndic Lamartin. He said, that's the most gangster
ship you ever said. You know.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
So I'm rehabing Miami. You know, stop cold turkey.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Knowing that I was Grammy nominated, popped up like the
boogey Man, everybody tripped out. Nobody thought I could change
my ways, but I did a day at a time. Brother,
I'm bailing you much for that. The hardest thing about
it is trying to write now sober. I'm very trying to.
(08:32):
I made all my hits sober, all the lean backs,
make your reins all the way ups, any fucking eat
you ever heard in your life? Sober letting Nobody tell
you you gotta be hoigh to write not true. If
you can do it, I can do it. Yes, you
got it. That's what I'm saying. That's exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's gonna take a minute, but then once you get it, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
It's the truth. Sitting here with you, guys, I was
just bunking in New York last night. Yeah, I love
right there. I told you on West Side Terrace, bar
Man Western Terry squar.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
And motherfucking if you saying that, and you bought that
life nigga, because we bought that light. Shout out, Steven Tay,
shout out. I think of you because you Mexican. I
think of hip hop.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You know.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
Of course, Cipher Steels inspired me and Punt. Yeah, they're
the first ones to inspires us on all saying all
of them. Mister cartoon.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah. Do you know mister Carr legendary yup, yup, shut out?
What a fucking legend, mister Carch Hell yeah, west Hard.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
You know me personally, every time I came to l A,
you know, I was more towards Inglewood shout out. You know,
mac Ten, I do believe, and this is something that
everybody could argue with me. But we had something to
do with the East coast West coast connecting because it
was at the time Big Ee Pok died. There was
(10:05):
a couple of more New York and West Coast beefs
going on and being mac Ten met each other and
we became brothers. I came out here and shot a
movie with him called Thinke of the Water in Inglewood, okay,
and they ain't came to my hood. And what's crazy
is I never knew there was bloods in New York
(10:27):
when I grew up. It wasn't bloods, it wasn't crips,
it wasn't none of that.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
He came to my projects and when I say you,
all them kids started running outside with the red suits
on and hats, and it was like, yo, g oh
j That's.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
When I knew we had bloods in New York. I
didn't even know it, and I was in the street.
So I brought him a lot of projects and everybody
running out the building like yo o g o g og.
I was like, oh shit, we got bloods New York.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, been in New York. Just a trick. The tensions
out there, just projects. They tell him, whatever you do now.
Difference between that, don't walk in LA and here man
out here. Every every blocks of gang, you know, pretty
much every blocks of game. You'd be somewhere nice right here.
You make it right, you know, you beating some cribs,
some blood, some essays. You know, I'm a slang so
(11:15):
I'm the South Sider out here. I reprexentple.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, New York.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
They drove me around the projects and ship towers. Don't
walk up in here at midnight left me. I said,
for sure, you looking out.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
What's so fucked up that if you was on drugs
you would walk up in there at any time to
get the drugs. So when you're on drugs, you in
the most dangerous neighborhood, you don't give a fuck. You
gotta get the ship.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
You're right.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
It's the same thing with places like oh, Miami too, Miami,
you could be a southeat.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
You make a left turn, you and fucking pomp pomp,
you and pompa No, but that's with you in Liberty City,
all that ship over town. Yeah, Liberty City, man, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
I lit My last crib was fifty thousand of the month,
a pen house. I went walking two blocks. I was
in the overtown nigga. They was out in the middle
of the street. It's so crazy how you got places
that look like paradise but you make the wrong turn.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Help. Yeah, hell yeah, I feel that. Plus somebody, I'm
Bellington States right now in Texas and Cali. So I've
been doing the right thing, trying to stay focused on
finding gun charging fighting some shit in Texas I learned
my lesson. I all the restaurant in Texas somewhere. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Shout out to my brother baby Bashing, Franky J. You
heard of these guys?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I know, Baby Bash, I mad person, Sugar. How you
get so flying? Sugar?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
How you get so?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Those are my guys.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
And every time I went to uh, Texas, Man, they
showed me the best time in the world.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
These are beautiful guys. Yeah, and they met a man
they put down for the Mexican's legendary those guys. But
Texas is weird because you got a gun charge. But
I don't think you need a license for a gun charge.
So is it because you're a felon? When they said that,
you was like, yo, everybody can have a gun. And
then they like, not you, my man? You national base.
(13:20):
At this point, I don't think you're thinking nine to five, right,
you think a wrap?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
You thinking yeah, entrepreneur, get money.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Get this, get that so and fast. Did you think
about taking your tattoos off your face at all? Never? Never? Uh?
But that's why they stopped you in texts. Here's the
story of my life, though, Bro, You.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Ever thought about you ever thought about a cop. We
so criminal minded. We never think about the other side
all the time driving in Texas. He's seeing him.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
That's how I knew he had the gun. He's seen
the tattoos. You say, oh, lod this nigga from the
other side of town. Let me pull yo, my man.
What you got there? Right? So it's part of your image,
is part of everything to do every day.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, legit.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
You gotta get a real security in a couple of dollars. Yeah,
we got real security, the real guys with the real
guns and leads. You okay, no, my guy, shoot your
face off. Wait with me, sir, Okay, thank you, Steve.
Shoot your fun. That's how you gotta move, you know. Yeah, security,
you got legit security. Be legit that way, because if
(14:37):
you bring the crew, they thinking they're impressing you, they
shoot the place up.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Don't play lefty on the news. Happened to me one
million times. I've been in jail because of this raft
Ship d one. I've been in jail maybe thirty times.
And ship I didn't even do. They was just like
bringing all the honies.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
That Joe, he's that Joe.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Where you bring the hunt to rise and something happens yeah,
it's on left no matter how you how about you
don't even bring the on to Roger. You're in the wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
But you in the soul House and you run out
of here, they be like, lucky Lefty beat everybody up
in here.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yo, this this You're always gonna get to blame.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Guess what we was talking about a story behind the
scenes of you know, we we had sham Guard and
Jaylen rose Er also Jalen Roy last night. He's with
Jayleen last night here.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
So I asked, my man, sham Guard, Right, there's a guy,
you know, I used to coach basketball in the Rucker,
one of the big the best coaches ever, actually the
best coach of all time. Yeah, six chips. And I
get to talk to to sham Guard and I bring
up a player. So there was a player who was
(15:51):
in high school that was going to the NBA from
New York City who I don't know if I should
say that right now, because I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
He's in I don't know.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
I'll say his name, Richie Parker. Rich Parker one of
the best basketball players out of New York. She's supposed
to go to the to the NBA. There was no
question no doubt that he was doing. Some girl allegedly
got raped by some guys he knew, and because he
was the star of the basketball team, allegedly she had
(16:29):
choosed him. It was like some tupah, I can't rape
that girl, but some guys they might have did something
too much, and then he caught the blame. So this
is what I mean that you know, people could do shit,
and it's always our fault if we're famous and were
on the forefront, and one day it's crazy because hob
(16:50):
I never met a better gentleman in the street basketball
league or in the park. To Richie Parker, I never
met a nice guy in my life.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
And his mother was a fan. She come up all
the ruck again to that a mound. One day.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I sat next up. I see your mama, I said,
how you doing this today? I'm still watching the game.
And she just looked up and she was like, he's
supposed to be bitch, I said her, mama. She said,
we're supposed to be bitch. But she didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
We would have been in that could you imagine we'd
have been in mansions, we'd have been yo. That shit
hurt me when that leg Yeah, I thought that, you
know what I'm saying, and so you know, that's why
it's so important that we got to move militant life happened.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I wasn't signing with otr oh Man. I sung with
him my first week out of prison. You know, they
gave me the money, and in the beginning, I thought
they were stupid giving me that money because you ain't
the only one. Yeah, we all thought like that. Yeah,
like shit, I'm about to go back to the pen.
And then I took that money in next thing. You know,
(17:58):
I'm right here, grant Me nominated one of grant Me
blowing up, you know, through the roof. So I'm getting
my contract situated right now. But yeah, it's bigger things ahead.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
You know what happened, went out outside the terror squad
deal with that fanic record I turned. It was ten
million dollars. We negotiated all night. Yo, See why you
lie laughing because we negotiating all night. They wouldn't let
me leave. It was like, you can't leave Leon Cohen's outside.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Have you ever?
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Record label were exactly dying for Fact Joe to come
outside cause I just put our big bun. He's going
double platinum. They're like, Yo, this nigga got the Latino explosion.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, we gotta sign whatever stand it's got, Like it
was like that, so they wouldn't let me leave.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
We wind up getting ten million dollars.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Shoot it. I felt like I stuck that nigga up,
like you ain't never see your life. I was like,
yoll being while we was up in there. I thought
we stuck him up. The man gave us that money
and jumped on the subway like nothing. He walked in
the subway up like yo, this didn't give us this
paper walked on the subway twelve midnight.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
But I know the feeling because you've been doing shit
so much for a dollar, yeah or two dollars, motherfucker,
give you.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
A real check. You feel like, who did we want?
Like that, what did we gotta do? What's going on?
Because ain't nobody giving us no ship for nothing? Legitly
in the hood, I was running around the hood with
like two hundred bands in a in a double bag
straight fifty seven moment went to the car place looking
in the may bag cash first week out, pushing the
(19:39):
maybag in the hood straight out the trailer park. You
that's case, Yeah, clapping it up for that. You know.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
That's what we're all about. Big life. We're all about
celebrating life. Were all about.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Let me tell you something, ain't nothing like that feeling
when you get that first wad from rapping and on
the freeway and just buy yourself like, man, it's my
shat like it's not that you know for you know,
for me, that was like when I caught that vaccine
for COVID. I was stuck in the house for a
year and a half and when they gave me that vaccine,
(20:16):
I was like, looks like we made it. I thought
I was going die niggas was dying in the hoods
so much, and they gave me that vaccine. I ran
over there so fast. I have my hand out the
something roof like, looks like we made it. But I
know the feeling and there's nothing like doing something legit. Yeah,
(20:39):
there's nothing that we all made money, you know, literally,
but legit, it's nothing like it feels good and you
in your car and you feel like damn.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
And that's what life's about.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
You all the moll and my grandma. You want breaking
on my mom? First time I do is buy her car.
You know, let me tell you the next thing, you're
gonna buy your mother a house. Yeah, that's coming.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That's where it's at.
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Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, let me tell you something. I did a lot
of things. I just told you, and I'm not bragging
about a ten million dollar check. I used to fly
private planes like it was a tax. Like I used
to be like, we want Puerto Rican food, Let's go
to Puerto Rico, like it was a joke.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
I'm just spending all kinds of money, forty niggas with me,
lobsters and stakes, buying thirty niggas, trucks, cats, this, this.
I did all that shit when I caught the tax
problem and I had to sell every day, and I
had to do whatever I had to do. I had
to give the government back millions of dollars and pay
my lawyer. It was one thing untouchable. It was called
(24:11):
my mother's house.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I would have sold every piece of jewelry, every art,
every house, every sneak, everything you ever seen, a fucking
toothpaste to pay them back. Don't talk about my mother's house.
And my mother's house wasn't even that special, guys. It
was a nice, little regular house that I bought for
my mother and my father. But I remember every single
(24:34):
time I pull up to my mother's house, I felt like,
even to this day, my house is that bitch, right.
And I used to pull up to my mother's house
just last year because she passed away and I felt
like that was the biggest house, the biggest shit.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
I ever did it in my life. I was sit
in front of the house and be like, Wow, my
mom got a house. You know what I'm saying, that's
the biggest ship. Praise God. You put your mother and
father some ship condo. He screamed that you for buying
it for this is accounting this father, Fuck you for
(25:16):
buying it. But okay, thanks for the key. Son, your
eyes all up.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Left to you.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I see you in the studio, crazy Bone. I was
just with Game last night, no doubt. What's your process
like in the students. I like to write from Scraps.
I like to hear the beat, write from scraps. I've
been in the studio with Mike and Cheese Breast, Scott
Storage probably yeah, this is right from Scraps, right my
(25:44):
story and can we expect? So man, I'm dropping soon.
I got enough songs for an album. We're gonna go
to New York.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Fore you right now, nobody's gonna give you that ship,
like Scott Storch, Nobody now for what you want, not
for that la that's.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Still Drew Remain. This is how we do fuck Scott
Stork did that. Yeah, he remained at beat.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
He did all that.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Huh A genius. N gave you that ship. If you
got that, Scott's gonna be right in the pocket for you.
I'm telling you that's that's We got studio timing him tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Oh that's a no brainer.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
That's that's right there.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
He's gonna give you that.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah. They just hear me from the studio. Is all
Roddy Rigs and Scott Storage. Roddy Rich is a motherfucking beast. Yeah,
Roddy called me. He's all like, name's doing it for
the culture. Bro, Like we gotta link up. I'm like
for sure, right, Rich, don't do that out of the park. Yeah, Yeah,
Roddy Rich, he's he's he's a fucking incredible guy.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
He's a genius.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Man. You know that should be great you and him
and Scott stort I said, you put Stortch with with
Roddy Rich. I've seen him in the studio with him
the other day. That's great, man.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Yeah, that ship is gonna banks the Niggasias.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Theyre going hot to that ship. Boy, Like he's gonna
give you that.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Documentary. Listen said.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Everywhere. He said, all that nobody's gonna get you, that
nobody gonna tomorrow. We got here boys, Scott Storage, Fresh Bankogotti,
all like four producers in one studio. Yeah, lot of expectations.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
You give me that.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
My mom's my tin. Now, my mom's MASI in Watermelin.
My dad's white. But he left me when I was two.
He moved to Florida, and we've seen. I was in
Florida the other day and he came convisioning me and
I didn't even recognize him, you know. But so you
think after you got successful he came to visit you. Uh? Yeah,
because ever since I've been successful, I've been out of jail.
(27:57):
So I've always been in jail my whole life. Did
you forgive them for leaving you at two years old? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I passed it up, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
I feel like every boy, every man leads their dad.
Like anybody who tells you that you don't need about
the dad, huh about the girls?
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
The girls too.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
But what I'm saying is.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
You need a father figure, man to straighten you out,
to make you go the right path, to be there
for you when you need a man in your life
that's why I was in the hood, because I didn't
have one. I looked at the homies for that good job.
You know, that shit felt good getting in from the homies.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
So that's what I was putting in so much work,
you know, good job, good job, good job, you know,
chasing a father figure that's gonna let me in the
gang bang so much and I realized, you know, I
gotta do something different.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Why they happy for you a homies.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
The homies in the beginning of like my second day
out of prison, gave me a strap boom, you know,
gave me some money and he's like, come on, let's ride.
I'm like, I'm gonna stay right here. What I said,
I'm gonna stay home real quick. I was too embarrassed
to tell him that I'm gonna be a rapper, you know.
And then like a week y'all talking about I'm gonna
be a rapper. He's like, you gonna be a rapper.
(29:21):
I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna be a rapper. He's like, man,
you fucking tripping bro. You're a lok in the hood,
you know, you're one of the ones. And I was
from my hood, but I followed my dream and then
once it worked out, they've seen it, you know, and
now they embraced it. You know. I feel like I'm
the first Latino. They really opened the door toup for
Latinos out here in LA to think the rapping is cool.
(29:42):
And I do it my own way, like I don't
use the N word like, you know, just out of
out of respect, you know, for for for the culture.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
And you know, I'm paying my own way.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
You know what's crazy is I started rapping.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
I got a favorite album and Soul two Men records
with It's cause jealous ones still envy, and I was.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Out here, probably with Steve Lobelt. We started a promo tour.
This would Flow Joe my first record, and we did
our Senior Hall. Okay, our Senior Hall was the biggest
shit in America. Shot up to Stretch your Arms show
and he invited me there. Sidney Hall was like, yo,
(30:31):
we got Fat Joe in the house. So I went
up there and I performed. I quit the whole promo
tour to get back to my block because I'll see
me it was the big just to be with my
boys and be like yo, I did it.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
So I remember, I went back to New York. The
very next day, I pull up to my block in
the cab and it's five of my best friends that
I grew up since kindergarten. So I'm looking this way
and I jump out the car.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
YO end up jumping up and down, and when they
turned around, three of them had a jealous face. The
other two were jumping.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Up and down like me, and three of them was
looking like fuck got it.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
That's the first time I ever experienced jealous And that's
where the name of that album jealous Ones, Envy and
jealous Ones Still and became from.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Because this game, it comes with a lot of envy
that hoods she gonna get killed. And I know that,
you know, I realized that. So you gotta find a
balance between it. But I see through all the fake love.
You know, now, since I'm successful, there's there's some of
them that are happier of me, and there's some of them.
I know they be talking shit. You know, that's how
(31:47):
you show them with success. My thing is who cares? Right,
God shows you the sober you could see, Yeah, the
fat Joe was to get high, I'd be dead broke
right now. I'm not kidding you.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I'm not lying, and.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
The direct correlation between guys who make it and become
successful and guys who don't.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
It's drugs and that's the difference. So when I look
at Netflix and I see a new documentary by Eddie
Murskey and starts in the ninety million dollar mansion, and he's.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Sitting in there with shipped to the sky and this
and this and that, you look at him and say, y'ard,
I never got high.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
It was stiff a coach in front of me. They
was doing whatever. I ain't do that.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
That's why he's in the ninety million dollar mansion. And
then when you see motherfuckers, you be like, damn, man,
this guy was the greatest.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
This guy was the best.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
This guy there, he ain't got shit. Now how you
start us?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
How you finished? Yop? But what I'm trying to tell
you is this, we got a guy. We got one
of my items. Right. In salsa music, I think the
best sous is singer of all time is called Heck
the level the Lavota content that they made a movie
about him, caller content that Jingo and Mark Anton, Mark Anthony, who.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Probably is the second greatest South I sing ever of history.
Now I'm going to say the birds. One day I
happened to bump into him and the man say, yo,
he was going to he was doing the movie. Heck,
de Lavau was still alive. So he went to his
apartment in Spanish Harlem and said that The man was like, yo,
(33:28):
I had it all.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Apartments with three floors, gold plaques on the wall, cadillacs, this,
this that. Look at me.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I don't have nothing. Mark Anthony was telling me this
story with tears in his eyes.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
He was like, yo, this was my idol and he
was fucked up, and he was telling me that he
used to be that nigga, he used to have that house,
that he used to have that, but when he got
on heavy drugs, it was over. So just know that anybody,
I'm gonna keep it a buck and I could get
backlash for it all I want. Don't let a woman
(34:08):
gash you into using drugs again. Just don't, because you're
some of the greatest god starts. Lost ninety million dollars
because a girl who's the most famous girl in the
world he was fucking.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
With, who.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
Brought a girl with him, another famous girl, and said, Yo,
we're gonna minage woo.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
But sniff this wo.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
I can't, but God starts said. He took that sniff
and it fucked this whole life up. He lost ninety
million dollars fucking with that.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
He got it back, same thing, no thing, same thing with.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
All he got about six.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
What's the ball wing brother that fuck this whole ship up?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I think he's Heally Beaver's father, Ali Bahm No Alec Bolwood.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
He shot the guy that day. That's another ball way,
the handsome one. He used to hang out with us
in the Bronx and Jimmy's. This guy went on CNN.
You could google it.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
They said he was sucking with Madonna. I'll give you
that one because he said it. I don't want that, Stephen,
Stephen Baldwin.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Seeing that.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Huh. He used to come to GM Jimmy's with us
every weeks, fly nigger original Jimmy's Ross Cafe in the
South Bronx for him, the obvious Steve was high around
that time. I don't fucking know, but he was. He yes, Steve,
he got to say his name is. He tells the
story he was hanging out with Madonna.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Same thing.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
She told him, you want to fuck take this cocaine
and to fuck this whole life and that of all
the Baldwin brothers he supposed to.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Google. I just gotta protect you. I was with a
Danny Treyhill yesterday, you know, two days ago, Danny treyholl
And he's a fucking legend gangster. He was telling me like,
you got the world in your hands. You know what's
gonna happen if you go this way, and you know
what's gonna happen if you go this way. So I
don't want to be writing in Pelican Bay, you know.
(36:07):
So I want to recovery meetings with him, you know,
putting in work for the community, trying to get back beautiful.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
What's the name of your album yet, Founting Blue, Fountain Blue?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Why? Why? Why fount the Blue? That's the name of
my trailer, Pard kind of like eight Mile, you know
what I'm saying, what's the one thing you want people
to remember and know? That's the gun play for for
being one of the ones opened the door for the Latinos,
you know, putting off for the culture black and brown unity.
(36:40):
Hopefully I get my own grabby in my own name
and just keep giving back, you know, like nip, you know,
the way, nip did. I really want to get back
to the people. You know, I think I don't think
I'm better than nobody. You know. I want to get
back to the city and all the kids and make
a difference. Are here, Make some noise for that. Just
(37:02):
know this ain't that that, ain't this cracking. Just take
some noise for Lefty gun play.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
You ship.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Any new music or all platforms, get it anything he does.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Make sure you support him breaking boundaries in that space.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Baby out there doing it right there, and then we
gotta support him for all of la over the world,
the world. World.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
It happened, unified, black and brown.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
I've been minching this this day one together with more
powerful than anybody.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Now let's get some sneakers, non
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Saskia Inwood woke up one morning, knowing her life would never be the same. The night before, she learned the unimaginable – that the husband she knew in the light of day was a different person after dark. This season unpacks Saskia’s discovery of her husband’s secret life and her fight to bring him to justice. Along the way, we expose a crime that is just coming to light. This is also a story about the myth of the “perfect victim:” who gets believed, who gets doubted, and why. We follow Saskia as she works to reclaim her body, her voice, and her life. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at betrayalpod@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.
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