DJ Vlad joins The Real Report with Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda to address his viral tweets and discuss how misinformation spreads online. The conversation also covers Jimmy Iovine’s recent comments on streaming platforms and their current relevance, the business model behind paying for interviews, LaRussell’s remarks about Lil Wayne, and a debate over the Top 5 NBA G.O.A.T.S. across different eras of basketball.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Blah, you know what I want to know? Why do
you interview Tony ya yo so much black?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
He didn't get stabbed.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Out, So you missed the viral. You missed the viral?
Right now?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Tell me how many views you did when you put
out this story about Tory Lanes and rock Nation, because
you said a lot of crazy things and I don't
want to tell people what you told me.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
I want you to tell people.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Uh, it's that about I don't know, thirteen fourteen million
uh impressions on that one tweet and if you count
all the other you know, media outlets that picked it up,
and the tiktoks and you know the instagrams and the
other Twitter accounts, probably one hundred million easy.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Yeah, So what made you wake up? Right, uncle Murda?
We was thinking what made him wake up? And what
a troll today? Because it seemed like was.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
It trolling or what is it?
Speaker 5 (01:09):
What is it? To you? Murder?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It seemed like bladdest trolling. I think you trailer because
I'm like, this can't be true. I don't see these
guys paying him to do all of these things.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
But is everywhere right now?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So everybody want to know, and I'm glad you gave
us the exclusive in if you and know all that, Blad.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
So tell us because I thought you was hacked, I said, Glad,
I got to be hacked off, gladdest troller. So get
into the story with rock Nation and Tory lanees the
biggest thing on the Internet.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Let's get into it on the real report, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
So I've been talking about the Tory Lanes Megan situation
right after it happened, and as the information came out,
as you know, Megan said that I'm going to testify.
You know, I've quoted you a lot. You know, if
you have someone that you shoot and they get on
the stand and say you shot me, and this woman
on top of that, there is a very slim chance
(01:58):
he will beat that in trot, you might as well
just plead out. So as they're going back and forth
and he's antagonizing her and you know, she's responding and
everything else like that, I started saying to my interviews,
Tori's go to jail, And I was like, oh, you're
a hater whatever, And I'm like, look, based on what
I see, he's gonna go to jail. He d m me,
you know, trying to figure out what I know, calls
(02:20):
me a cop whatever else, that's whatever.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Man, Tory Lanez DMS you and called you a cop.
I never knew this.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, yeah he did. That's whatever. I don't care about that.
I think Tory Lanez is a dope.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Artist called all type of names. Was that I said,
You've been called all type of all? I agree.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Glad is my friend though you know, Glad is my friend.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
He's my guy.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
He helped me with a lot of stuff with learning
about this podcast. Thinking he never really hated on anybody
from what I see now, does he does? He pick
on people sometimes he doesn't know he does murder, you know,
and it's cool And this time you're picking on rock
Nation and Tory lanes Well, no.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
No, I'm not. I'm not even picking on rock Nation.
So basically, leading up to the trial, I was one
of the only people in hip hop media that kept
saying Toy's going to be found guilty and he's going
to go to jail. That doesn't make me a hater,
doesn't make me a snitch or a cop. It's just
based on the public information I was finding the trial,
I'm like, he's going to go to jail and everyone.
Whenever I did a poll on Twitter or you know, YouTube,
(03:26):
eighty percent of my viewer said, no, he's going to
beat it. He's going to walk away. You know, she's
lying whatever.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I predicted it too. Not to cut you off. I
predicted it too.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
I send it to you.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I said, no, you got somebody that's saying you shot them.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
I don't know. The case is not looking it's.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Not looking good, right, so lo and behold. He gets
found guilty and he goes to jail, and he files
an appeal, and the appeal falls through, and you think
that that's the end of it. But constantly you see
all this news footage that keeps coming out where it's like, yo, no,
she ever got shot. He actually had a press conference
(04:03):
because lawyers had a press conference that said he didn't
shoot her. Kelsey was shooting the gun and he hit
her arm. The gun fell to the floor and fired twice,
and that's how she got hit. Now listen, man, I'm
not Nicholas Irving, you know, the Army sniper. But I
have handled guns throughout my life, and I could tell
(04:24):
you if I threw a gun on the floor a
thousand times, I don't think you would fire twice. Am
I right?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
That don't sound too believable, But yeah, I know what
you're saying. I know what you're saying, right.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
So what made you wake up? Though? This is the room?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So this is what happened, right, So that morning, a
bunch of like Daily Loud and a bunch of other
like Domin's News I believe, and a bunch of other
like media outlests that I follow. Tarts running this video
of Tory's lawyers saying that Kelsey's bodyguard has come forward
and said that Kelsey's the shooter, not Toy. Everyone's going
(05:00):
crazy over this footage. And I'm looking at this going
like this is from last May. This art he came
out almost a year ago. The appeal went through and
it didn't happen. The appeal was struck down, and so
I posted this. I'm like, Yo, you're an idiot to
think that this is somehow news and that this is
somehow going to overturn this and people in the comments, yeah,
(05:21):
but you know Rock Nation they bought off the jury
and Rock it's really jay Z because remember Tory's dad, Like,
after Toy has found guilty, one of this whole rant
where you was screaming about rock Nation and jay Z
in the courtroom and everything else like that. Right, So
I said, okay, listen, like this, this guy is so
stupid at this point that I'm going to just do
a tweet or I'm going to take every conspiracy theory
(05:44):
around this and just listed one after the other. I
got paid by rock Nation. Jay Z paid off the jury,
and he paid off the judge and did a verse
for the judge's grandson, right, And and he paid the
Mexican dude to stab Tory in prison, and he paid
off the doctor to say that she got shot when
(06:06):
she really wasn't, and and he paid off everyone else.
Like yo, I'm like, okay, this is so stupid that
Noah's gonna believe this.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
And you're so saying the Internet does what it does best,
twist stuff up, change the conspiracy theories.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
But you knew.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
But you know why I was trolling, because you had
to know some of the now a jay Z versus crazy,
but him getting stabbed by rock Nation and all that,
that might be believable or something.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It might be believable. It might be believable. So you
mean to tell me that jay Z where he is
in life right now. Right, he's a billionaire, he's considered
one of the greatest ever. He's going to risk all
that to pay a pedophile, a Mexican pedophile, to do
a murder in prison over a guy with an you
(06:58):
know who's antagonizing an artist that's not even a big
priority to jay Z.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
But you're a credible Listen, you a credible source to
the culture. So people or like a lot of people
are like confused from what I'm hearing.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
It's a lot of it's coming from you. So people
don't know if you're hacked or you was, you was trolling,
or I.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Was not hacked. Man, I was trying to prove a point,
and I proved it that whatever stupidity you put out there,
there's gonna be millions of people that eat it up.
And I was right. No matter how stupid it is,
no matter how totally unbelievable it is, there's gonna be
someone that eats it up. And look, millions of people
ate it up. Millions. I proved my point. Did I
(07:43):
prove my point?
Speaker 4 (07:44):
You definitely did, because people ran with the story and
it definitely went viral. That's why we got you on
a real report right now, like sharing subscribe you know
what I'm saying, and we get we get told everything
that's real.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
So where do we go from here?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Because you're a credible sauce you you you're part of
the So people like.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
What are you? What are you hearing?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
What?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Like how people are calling your phone? What do they say?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
And I want to know, Black, how do you feel
about people like you? Cool as ship? Right? But how
do you feel about people saying you're a coach, a
bulcher too? Black?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Just the real He has a lot of money, ladies
and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
But I want to know how he really feels about
that though, because he's been a part of the culture
for so long, very long, So for people to say that,
how do you feel about that?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Black?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I mean, what's interesting is that both of y'all. I
was like doing interviews with both of you before Flat TV. Yep,
you guys are part of Black the Era facts for real,
for real. So you guys know how far I go back? Man,
I don't care about that. Every Every white person in
hip hop is called that at some point, you know,
Steve Rifkin gets called that, Lakoma, She's contributed Leo. Take
(08:48):
Lea her Cohen out of hip hop, and you would
have a very different hip hop. People don't want to
admit that, but there's a reason why he became president
of def Jam and then you know ahead of YouTube Music,
you know he was president. He was a chairman of another,
he was chairman of I think Atlantic at one point
like I may be getting wrong, but it's like, yo,
(09:10):
like I'm fine with being called that, but you know,
at the end of the day, it's like, at what
point do you just say we have to use our
common sense. What's interesting about that particular tweet is that
there's probably maybe like at least one hundred replies where
people are asking Groc is this real? And every time
(09:33):
Groc says no, it's parody, it's sarcasm, right, So AI
no sarcasm better than human beings? Now? Is that sad?
Isn't that kind of sad that AI does a better
job of telling someone it's sarcasm than the person themselves,
an actual human being? That's what's sad about this. That's
(09:56):
craz every TIMEROC and Groc doesn't even get shit right
sometimes and every time I got it is being sarcastic.
It's not real.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
This is this is you know what you know, you
know what's crazy when I look when I look at
like the DVD era, when I look at like the
my Space era, you know that the kids now don't
know about. You know, it was like, it was World Star,
it was This Is fifty, it was Vlad, it was
Forbes DVD, you know, and then you know, Fendy and
(10:27):
them had to come up, but they didn't have the website,
so you had to come up. And of course you
had Cocaine City with French and you had What's My
Man that always had the girls.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
You know my man?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, zero sub zero shout the sub zero.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
It was just.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
And that was the DVD.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
And then we transitioned into the internet where everybody somebody
get knocked out or whatever anything happens World Star and
then you had Vlad tvd TV, you had you had
This Is fifty, and you had Forbes DVD. So when
I look at the sport that we in hip hop
music entertainment, I think it breaks all color barriers. And
(11:07):
I'm gonna tell you why, Because when I'm overseas and
somebody knows my daughter name, my son name knows everything
about my life and they break down when my album dropped.
This that person might not even black or be black.
Or if we in Mexico or Colombia and people know
the music, it breaks every barrier in the world. To me,
(11:29):
we performed everywhere in the world, Arminia, Dubai, with Italy, France, India,
all parts of Africa, Morocco, Johannesburg and Gola. The list
goes like, you got some more for me, Tanzania, Give
(11:50):
me some more, like like like the barber and the building,
give me some more. Give me some more, like give
me some more like huh yeah, give me just anywhere
in the world because you you heap, like the barber
flew more places than me.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
So Qatar.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Kastan paused that sounds but we were in this pop
called Kakastan or something like that.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Saint Petersburg rushing Moscow. You know, this is what I'm saying.
So there is no color barrier or music. I feel
like it breaks every barrier because some people that don't
even understand English that listen to music.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
But back to vlat trolling though, right, you did a
good job. Lat I like that man.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Thank you, thank you. Hey man, listen, I think that
we have to use our brains sometimes, and it's easy
to think that there's always a conspiracy, there's always like
something behind the scenes and so forth. And that was like,
for example, like when I did the KPD interview, part
of the reason why I did it was there were
so many conspiracy theories about tupacketing killed Sugar. Did it?
(13:00):
Like if you want to kill someone and you weigh
three hundred pounds and they weigh one hundred pounds, would
you have them shoot up the car while you're in it?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, it's not too smart, but yeah, you know, nobody
trusts Sugar back in them days, though, government's gonna be
conspiracy theories.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
You just heard Sugar with pol They swapped the body.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
He's still alive in Cuba, and it's like, all right, well,
let me actually show you guys. This is the guy
that was actually the car when it happened, the last
living person.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Well, you know, they got the conspiracy now saying Jeffrey
Epstein is still alive. A guy looks just like him
with the bed walking around. Man, but we don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Let me didn't didn't Robert Duval pass away today.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yeah, rest of peace to him.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Godfather one of the classic mall movies. What is one
of your best classic mall movies? Give me give me
four or five of them, or maybe one of two
of them.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Black, I mean, I think my favorite, my favorite favorite
just piece of cinema about the Italian Mob's Casino, Okay,
just because there's so much longer than a lot of
the other films, and it really you got a chance
to really develop the story and see the relationships. And
you know, Joe Peshi was a lunatic. He was in
(14:10):
top for and this one, I mean, Goodfellas is an
absolute classic. Godfather too, that was my favorite Godfather film,
Donnie Brosco, that was a classic un people love, you know.
I interviewed a lot of talime off you guys, trying
to get some of them on your show.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Definitely, who was some some of the mob guys you
interviewed some of the people.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Want to send me the Bull, okay, Samdy the Bull.
I remember at one point.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
He told but killed nineteen people. I didn't mean to cut.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
You at least maybe more. Maybe At one point, I
remember we talked about this.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
He was selling gonna make him hot, saying maybe more.
You don't, but you tried to get him back. I'm
telling you not you talking like I can think.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
On his YouTube channel, he was selling uh, Sammy the
Bull nineteen shirts.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
Oh that's bold.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, and he said, oh, we took it down. I didn't.
I didn't realize they were doing he backed up off
that got wow, Yeah, Sammy the Bull, Michael franzis uh man.
A lot of a lot of big mob dudes, man,
you know, and a lot of FBI agents the busted them,
you know, Joey Merlino, the alleged Philly mob boss. It
(15:24):
was a really big one they had first ever, like
real interview was was on my platform. And now he's
out of there, you know. Now he's doing his own
podcast and everything else like that. Yeah, man, A lot
of a lot of interesting ds, and like Merlino, I
felt was the most like active in terms of like
(15:45):
a lot of the dudes I interviewed cooperation.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
He was real flashy. He didn't cooperate.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
No, he didn't cooperate it. But but what I'm what I'm
saying is is that most of the dudes I interviewed
cooperated at some point. Sammy cooperated, Michael Frenzies somewhat cooperated
and so forth. Joey never cooperates, So every answer that's moblazing.
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
They had something about him on Netflix, right the whole
Philly Mob. Yeah, that was a fisher. I like the joke.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
What was the name of that, the Philly Mob something
like that was on Netflix.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
But I remember that.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Right now I'm binge watching like I'm binge watching them
hijack with Oh my god, man, man, that's like the
best thing on TV for me right now.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
You've seen a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
No, I haven't watched that.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
That's part of the whole Game of Thrones, like Universe.
In the last episode, Oh my god, it was like
they made a scene where seven Nights have to fight
each other in just like this dirt field, and the
level of is just something different.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
I'm gonna watch that.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
You think about that, Just a bunch of knights in
harbor on horses and jousts and like maces and soul words,
just going all out trying to kill each other, seven
versus seven. Just a level of violence. So you know,
you rarely see that type of violence, like accurately depicted.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Make you what you're watching light what you're watching like
the ball.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I'm curbently watching Gangs in London right now. Season two
just came back out.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
That's what ye. Gangs in London is popping. Okay.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I think I watched the first season.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
The first year. The two just came out. Gangs in
London popping. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
But by the way, shout out to Aiden Ross Man.
I remember, I think I missed them for the first time.
When you guys we worked it out, man, I went.
I went to his uh well, and I'm twenty two
and Jason Love had that fight and Aiden Ross was
the one that hosted it. So we actually went to
his event and I watched it afterwards, you know.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Getting cool.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
He just got a layoff sheltered TD Man. Sheouter top
and everybody over there. I'm a big fan of hers.
My daughter is too shouting minight. You know, she's the
whole TD Man. She'll tell me, come on, don't mess
with dough she man. People take that personal, but we're
lat you.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Know, we better face to face. We hugged it out.
We SHA's numbers. We're gonna do an interview. We've been
in contact ever since and he's like, man, that's what
I realized about like this, this new breed of Internet,
you know people, is that they don't take nothing personally.
They just keep it moving.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
I learned from you, me and Murders getting a lot
of hate now that we're blowing up and we're doing
a number. Shout to the volume, Shout to all the haters,
and I just embraced that. Heye, I'm seeing a lot
of sideline hate, indirect hate, but we don't care because
we eating smoke, ducking Morocco. Baby, what shovla? Since we
got you here? Man, one of the most biggest music
is X in the world.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
In the scope.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Shout to Jimmy Ivien. I can tell y'all my ill
is Jimmy Ivin's story is me and him in fifty
eating lunch on top of in the scope, and I
kept my mouth shut the whole time. Shout to Jimmy Ivien,
Doctor dre Eminem, everybody over there, right Paul Rosenberg fifty.
Did you hear what he said about how dreaming is
gonna be absolutely soon, absolute absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah. I watched the whole interview, Man, great interview.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Uh, I mean corrected my words to plan. I got
the sometimes you got.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
You know, I teach him about the salad. For now
he's teaching me about words.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
It's brother.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
We're gonna take the last interview where where YO kept
calling bad buddy Babs Buddy.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I sw that you had to check. I see that, buddy, Yo.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I don't know why I be doing that. Sometimes I
start calling people when I want to call him out.
It's bad happy. I don't know, Man, I don't I'll
be tripping. I gotta stop smoking so much, buter and
getting the gym to stop. I'm gonna slow down, man,
shout to the unit. This mode indoor too.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
What Jimmy said was interesting is that he basically said
how all the record labels made a deal with Spotify,
and now Spotify is bigger than all the record labels
put together in terms of the market cap. If you
look at how much Spotify is worth versus what the
record labels are worth, all of them put together are
worth less than just Spotify, and the record labels only
get like a small percentage of the overall pie. So
(20:17):
what he was saying is is that in the future
Spotify may not be necessary or streaming services may not
be necessary because you'll be able to you know, they
basically say He basically said that music is like the
only industry where the artists or the label and the
consumer don't connect with each other. They always go through
(20:37):
a third party. So they're always relying on a third party,
whether it's you know distribution, well, I mean physical distribution
or now digital distribution. It's like they still can't get
directly to the person who's buying the product because the
middleman controls that. And that's what he's saying. He's saying
in the future that might you know, that might change
and it needs to change. But we'll see how would
(20:58):
that change though, Well, if there is a if you
don't need Spotify, right, And what he said was interesting
also is that when you look at Spotify, most of
the money goes to just the top artists, the Drakes,
(21:18):
the Taylor Swifts, the cats, right. And but you know,
the way the way it's structured is like let's say
a person paid ten pays ten dollars ten dollars a month,
a certain percentage goes to who he listens to, and
if only one percent is going to the independent artists,
like everyone who's uploading music. Who's not this megastar. They're
(21:38):
really making almost nothing. The Drakes are doing okay.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
They're not even getting paid. Do you can say they're
not even getting paid?
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
So so for example on streams, when you look at
the catalogs that are up on DSPs with your catalogs,
do you guys make a lot of money or not? Really?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, I make some money, good amount of money. Shut
out the Empire, shout out the guys. Need I just
did a deal for seven figures with the music. So
it's definitely still money.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Shut out check never murder project.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
But we definitely do yeah, like we got you know,
we got.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Your still money and music guys. I was saying all
by like like tro the ball Man, I'm doing great
over there. So it's still money and music for artists
like Free Step G and Sleepy. They still making a
bunch of music off like so.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
But it ain't Tailor Swift money.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Of course, we know that it's still money that no
people they feeding their families off with this money.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Like what Jimmy Irving was saying that that the artists
like Taylor Swift and Kendrick and like.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
That they and you know, they benefit, you know, because
they do streams, they.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Gonna benefit more, but we're gonna still benefit as well.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Like were good.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
We don't need tailor Swift money to survive, but we
from like that, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
No, I understand what you're saying, but I'm saying that's
what Jimmy Irving was saying, like, and then he said
something about like there's no exclusive something like artists being excuse.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, yeah, exclusives are dead. Everybody people were like dropping
on on title exclusively and it wasn't going on Spotify,
but then messed up people's first week sales. I think
that's the problem is that in music, people care about
the perception more so than the money. Right, the fame
(23:20):
becomes more important, and it even makes financial sense because
a lot of the money comes from the touring, right,
So if you don't have the fame, the touring doesn't
come with it. But remember everyone was dropping exclusives on
title and no one was charting in the top ten,
So people just stopped doing that, even though there was
might have been more money by dropping exclusively on title.
When you don't drop it on Spotify and Apple Music,
(23:41):
you don't hit the charts and then it ends up
looking like you're not a big artist, and then you know,
it's like a domino effect. But there was more money.
I remember I looked into like Kanye dropped don to
two on the like the stem player. I don't know
if you ever saw it. You could actually take out
like the vocals, take out the drums. Yeah, he was
(24:05):
telling it for like two hundred dollars, and he sold
like an insane amount. Like I remember I did the math,
and like he made something like two or three million
dollars off just that and he didn't even sell that many,
but it was a high ticket price and it was
direct and it was like yo, and you didn't even
hear about it didn't hit the charts, but he made
way more than if he had released it publicly and
hit the charlest guy. I think that's what Jimmy is saying,
(24:28):
and this is that remains to be seen. We'll see.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
I mean, I think guys like Jimmy I Ving could
predict the future when it comes to music because we
was on Interscope when things was changing, when things went
to iTunes and stuff like that. We was in that transition,
like we went from hard copies to you know, streaming.
So we seen the transition and that's when they you know,
(24:53):
did the headphones and was working with Apple. So a
guy like Jimmy il Vien and you know doctor Dre,
they predicted future in music.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Like from my opinion, from what I've seen from them.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, yeah, so when he says it, you gotta you gotta,
you know, prick your ears.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Definitely.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I remember when me and uh le Or Cohen spoke
a couple of years ago and I said, what's the
main priority for YouTube, because he's the head of YouTube
Music Global, he said shorts. I paid attention. I started
to doing more shorts, and sure enough, YouTube course have
surpassed like TikTok shorts.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
So I never knew that its information.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Man. When you you know, when people high up talk,
you should listen.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I would think TikTok was more.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
That's crazy now, man, YouTube is a monster and YouTube
is a monster. And at the end of the day,
in terms of businesses, like if you're a business and
trying to make money off your content, there's nothing like YouTube.
No one even comes close.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
You.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, YouTube accounts like ninety percent of our revenue. Yeah,
we make a few percent off Spotify, few percent off Facebook,
a off of a snapchat, you know, and some other
money here and there, but really, really when it comes
to serious money and where we really park our content
as YouTube.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
So so let me ask you a question because me
and Murder was talking about this. Shelter You and Jada Shelter,
j Charlemagne to Breakfast Club Envy just hilarious, Laura and everybody.
So we know now you no longer see them on
YouTube anymore, they're on Netflix. Would you take a Netflix
deal if the money was right or you think, what
(26:28):
do you feel about that Netflix versus YouTube?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I don't see blag going in Netflix. I think is
YouTube thing?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, I mean every every deal you know, makes sense
if there's enough money in it, right, but it has
to be like like for example, right, I'll just expose
this because it was such a stupid deal. Patreon approached me, right,
and I've had a lot of bad deal offers, but
this this, by far, it was the worst deal offer
(26:57):
I ever had. So so they approached this. Listen, you
have a really strong membership section of your YouTube channel.
You know, we want to talk to you about bringing
your members over to Patreon and we'll guarantee you two
years of what you would have gotten on YouTube, you know,
to go to Patreon. And I said, this sounds interesting, right,
(27:19):
So so you know, there's a lot of money because
there's you know, talk about thousands of thousands of members.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Right, so we make a lot of money. Black ahead,
keep talking.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, I do, okay with an important important part of
the business that I've grown over over years and me
started with row members and now it's like, you know,
over ten thousand members. So uh, I'm like all right.
So I had the conversation with everyone and I'm like
they're like, yeah, you know, and here you could you know,
we offer this, and we offer that. And I'm like,
all right, before we go any further, are you asking
(27:48):
me to shut down my YouTube membership and go exclusively
with Patreon? And they're like yeah, And I'm like, okay,
So I'm going to shut down on a successful, growing
business and go to you guys to make the same
money I'm already making with that business. It doesn't work
(28:11):
out over here. I go back and there's no business
anymore because once you shut down the membership, all the
members go away and you have to rebuild it from zero.
I said, how on earth does this make any sense?
You offered me the same amount of money I'm making
over here to come over there. It don't work out,
and I have nothing to go back to. Well, you
know lots of people. I'm like, man, this is stupid.
(28:32):
Y'all wasted my goddamn time. I said, pay me ten
times what I'm making in a year and I'll consider it.
I oh, no, we can't do that. And I'm like, well,
we don't have a conversation. You know, you waste my
fucking time. It's a stupid ass offer. A stupid ass offer. No,
that's like saying, listen, whatever you guys make in streaming money,
(28:56):
I'll match it for two years and then if it
doesn't work out, you go back to making zero.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Yeah, it don't make no sense. I can give me
some extra I need something.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
There was nothing that I said, give me ten times,
give me a ten year stretch to work it out,
and then you know, give me that money up front.
We could talk about it. I know we can't do that.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
How do you feel about our set up? Because right
now they got all these fucking lights. I feel like
I'm in a spaceship a little bit super pop up up.
We got the lights canvas action man. But Yo, the
number one rule you always told me was and was
to embrace the hate. And I'm really getting it now.
And shout to all the people that show the love
(29:37):
that been watching the show. You know, y'all make sure
you know we sponsored by hard Rock Betting. You may
make sure y'all like share, subscribe, you're doing them numbers.
Hold on Murder.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
We said we we're gonna stop cutting each other.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yeah, we reading the comments talking about our arguing and
cutting each other off.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
See Murder. This the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
You gotta understand. People gotta understand.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
My mefort to the madness is I don't watch my
own videos any glad I did Shinn and Sharp anything
I do. I never watched back Andrew Schultz kill Tony.
I never watch it. I don't know if Murder's watching it.
I'm not watching it, and I don't read comments. But
I always embrace the hate, and I see who's hate
(30:18):
I'm watching them. I watch everything. But we appreciate everybody, Lad,
And what's your advice to people in the podcast world
to you know, to embrace the hate? Like, what what
advice you give us in this game right here.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I think that you have to figure out what exactly
you're really good and passionate about. I think a lot
of people try to chase what other people are doing
and that doesn't work out. Like Joe and Jada are
authentically who they are and that's why people like the podcast,
(30:54):
right But a lot of people try to emulate other
people and it doesn't work. And not only that, but
you have to be prepared to go a long time
without making any real money because not only do you
go in with the deal like you guys have, right,
but even with the deal that you guys have, you
guys have to bring the numbers of course, so you
know what I'm saying. So if you guys will get
(31:14):
the upfront deal, but then a year two years into it,
if you're not pulling the numbers, that deal will end
and you guys don't have to start over, you know,
on a different platform or your own platform or everything
else like that. You have to be prepared to go
in this in the long run. Glad TV start in
two thousand and eight, so we're now eighteen years into
this of doing this every day like literally no days off,
no real vacations, you know, putting out content three hundred
(31:36):
and sixty five days a year. Certain interviews hit, certain
ones don't. But we just keep going and a lot
of people come in, you know, do it for a
little while and then see that doesn't compete with the
type of money they're already making, and then they quit.
You see what I'm saying, deal or no deal, you
still have to look at it as a real job
as opposed to just a side hustle. Got you see
what I'm saying. If you treat it seriously, you could
(31:57):
do great with it. You know. Nori came in after
I did, he did great with it. Gillian Wallow came
in a way after I did, did great with it.
Academics out of twenty two, you've seen a lot of people.
But if you look at all those people, they took
it really seriously, you know, whereas other people it's just
a little side gig. They do, you know, an interview
every so often, they do a podcast every so often.
You know Nicki Mina, she was doing her radio thing
(32:19):
every so often. It didn't really stick, right, Drake doing
it every so often. You know, they get these deals,
but they don't stick with it. So the people that
are really, really successful, they take it one hundred percent
seriously and they stick with it, and whether they have
a deal or whether they don't have a deal, they
still are trying to put out the highest level of
content because the deal is not going to stay if
(32:40):
the numbers don't stay, you know, don't coincide with the
amount of money. Nobody goes into this game to lose money.
And I talk to people all the time when you know,
we have conversations that people expect, Oh, I want to
get paid this much to do an interview, and it say, well,
this does make financial sense, so no offense. I'm not
saying you're not worth what you feel your worth, but
(33:01):
I know what it's going to make on my and
there's no point of paying you twice what I'm gonna make, right,
That's just me putting myself on the whole. And I've
had interviews where I've lost money, but not that often
because I've gotten pretty good at at figuring things out.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Blad.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
You know what I want to know, Why do you
interview Tony Yayo so much?
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Blad?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I'm ah, that's elementary, Acla. The question elementary, Why did
you interview Tony yayo so much.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Well, who wanted to know.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Look, the plan was not to interview Tony Yo a
bunch of times. The plan was just to do one interview, right,
and you know, when we do an interview, we kind
of do like a life story piece on that person,
so as it so happens, and Tony remembers me and
him were not on the best of terms we did
this interview. There's a little bit attention.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I'm at a point my brother, he used to work out,
just like me and Fat Joe. Things could work out. Look,
shout at the value. Shout to Joe and Jada. Look
he help us get this deal over breakfast in Belgium
or Germany where you said yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
And you could even tell that first interview me and him,
there's a little bit of tense energy between us, right,
that whole shut the fuck up that came from the
first interview, but it came out and look, I could
have cut out the whole shut the fuck up and
go man, he disrespected me. Fuck there, I ain't gonna
put that out. I mean, I have final cut. I
could cut out whatever I want. But I'm like, no,
I'm gonna run with this. This this is actually funny.
(34:33):
And this became a meme right to this day.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Why me meme?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Meme mean?
Speaker 5 (34:41):
It became I'm gonna help you with a couple of
these girls.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
I know the words, but this mean this is a
mean word too, right this meme and meme or no,
it's just me alright.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Right ship it became a meme. The interview did big numbers,
and then it was like, let's try a second interview.
Did a second interview and it did solid numbers. And
then it became a profitable and mutually profitable relationship. And
over time it also became a personal relationship. Me and
Tony started talking more offline and I got to really
(35:14):
see who he was as a person. And you know
it's like me and him start a vibe with each
other and everything else like that, you know, hung out.
You know, we would have breakfast at the country club
and you know.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
These sheltered at Calabasis country kid, we're doing different things.
Embrace the heye man, I learned from Bla bled. They say,
you know you're a coach of Vota. You don't you know,
you don't respect people. Tell him how much money you
spent because you spent the most money guests.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
I've paid out.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I've paid out over a million dollars to guests, and
I could even I could even like, if I had to,
I could even break it down by each guest. You
see what I'm saying, Like, I don't think there's anyone
in this space that has paid that amount of money
to guess. And I feel like before I started doing it,
this was considered a no no in the media game.
(36:04):
It's like if you do an interview supposed to be
for free, right, sixty minutes is free, you know Diane
Sawyer free, Like it's always you know Oprah free, you
know radio station's free. So during the pandemic, I'm like, Yo, listen,
some of these people who are my regular guests are
hurting right now, like especially like the comedians. The comedians
(36:26):
were hit the worst because they suddenly couldn't tour and
that's how they made their money. So I said, Yo,
let me start putting some money in some of these
comedians pockets that are still rocking with me. And now
I'm not depending on just a favor or the relationship.
It's like, Yo, let's turn into a real business. Like, Yo,
I'm going to pay you I'm going to put it out.
We're both going to make money. And that created a
(36:47):
whole industry and of itself. I remember when me and
Birdman first had our conversation, he was like, man, like,
what you did was interesting because I never saw anyone
pay for interviews, and now you've created a whole business
around it. Now people support themselves through paid interviews, and
now everyone pays, you know, more or less he you know,
and so forth, And you had all these businesses that
(37:07):
have flourished, and the people who have gotten paid have
now created their own careers and you know, create their
own podcast like you for example, Tone Like, you know,
you went from getting paid to do interviews, so now
doing your own podcast.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
I mean definitely, and that's not a coincidence.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Me being on vlat TV gave me the experience.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
And you gotta have tough skin, you know what I'm saying,
to be on YouTube, and you gotta be smart, and
you gotta be strategic. And to anybody, lad as one
of them platforms that every artist or anybody should go to,
because it's a big platform. When I'm overseas in Europe anywhere,
everybody the number one interviews.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
They always talk about as glad TV.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Even we did shout to the Black Caucus family out
there in Albany. We're chilling with the mayor and the congressman.
You know, all of them was talking about you know,
flat TV. They seen interview, another viral one, another one
in the books.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
You know it was great, good promo, you know what
I mean. And they watched lads.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
You know, smoke Duck is like it's super viral, you know,
shout to everybody every time they put it up.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
I definitely post them.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
And I think it's pretty dope because you got people
from all walks of life that are showing how dope
it is the vacation. They're showing their vacation and they
send them even smoke Duck in my Morocco.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
It's even more motivation for me.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Now, I don't want to go places that we haven't been,
Like you know, I don't know where we haven't been.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
I definitely got to get to Haiti.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
That's one place, Shout told my Thous that's one place
I haven't been. We're supposed to go to Wide Cliff
what was that way back? You know, but Shout told Myzos,
I definitely want to go to Haiti, nice resort.
Speaker 5 (38:45):
And just chill. Your hating yourself, right, Yeah, definitely both parents.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
So you have you ever been, You've never been back.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Never been to Haiti. I'm born in America.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
I would have got deported if I wasn't born here
because I had felting these and stuff, so they would
have sent me back to Haiti.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Right, But you never. But I'm saying, your family's from there,
your nerveing back, you should go.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Mann, That's one trip that I definitely want to take.
All kind of things happen in Haiti. Man, it's it's
you know, but it's a real beautiful country, beautiful water.
You know what I'm saying. It's real nice resort. So
you know, my mom's telling me that all the time.
So I definitely want to go out there. And the
food is amazing, nothing like some Haitian rites and lambie.
You know what I'm saying, Haitian potato salad. Dominican people
say it's they potato salad, though the beat salad. Like
(39:27):
I heard Dominicans say that's how potato salad, But it's
Haitian potato salad.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Mean, it's the same island I've been in dr but
never been in Haiti, but it's the same island, right.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
Yeah, it's the same island.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
You can say that, but but I love you know,
I'm talking about the Haitian potato salad, which I love.
It's like beats instead of regulatious potatoes. Is beats in
it too, so it's red.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
So I love that.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
But Dominicans people do it the same way too. Shout
to the Dominican people.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
You know in New York. You know how they go.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Man, But Vlad, you got a good ass setting behind you. Man,
I see the fireplace you live in good I'll check you.
I'm gonna come check you. At the Calabastis Uh country Club.
We walked in there. They looked at us like we
was crazy. They got your hat, Yeah, they made you
take off your real classy.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
He was the only black dudes in there. Hollywood. Shout the
Hollywood man.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Thank you for your time on The Real Report sponsoredby
Hall Rock Betting. You know we Gotvlad TV.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Already know Black Me and you barely got to talk.
It was just like another you and Yeo interview. But
it's all just the arrible port you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Hey man, you gotta have this questions ready, you gotta
have you you know.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Man, where's the pillow?
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Pillows today? No pillows today?
Speaker 4 (40:38):
So you on the you on the west coast, You
on the west coast, stand out the cold.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Man, it's raining out here. But now like what you'all
going through.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
Yeah, we get you know, it's actually a little nice.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
I see you, gottle. The weather got a little better.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
I got a little nice out here today.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
We a little twenty year twenty years low I heard
in terms of weather, and man.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
It was like Alaska low two weeks right, yeah, cold
in Alaska.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
It's crazy. You know what. The thing I hate is
the shoveling. It's like that, you know for the city,
y'all put the y'all not the snow out the street, right,
but then y'all block everybody's car. So when I go
to Queens, everything was like a one way. So don't
have a big truck or anything like that, or you know,
even having a regular car.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
It was just it was crazy.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
They gotta find remember that thing we was talking about
in Canada, They gotta find a way to melt that
snow or something m And then there's a conspiracy theory
saying that it's fake snow spend there for two weeks
like your conspiracy theory.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
AI you started that too, probably, black man.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Listen, Shout out to rock Nation. Shout out to Jay
Z uh the lawyer, say.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
Lanes, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Shout out to Makan Though Thompson and Klay Thompson there right, Yeah, shout.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
After all of them.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Man, listen. Uh. People ask whether Jay Z's lawyers have
approached me. No, they have not approached me because they
know they know it's sarcasm. They know this is not
some uh you know what's the name of that Jaguar
Wright type ship, right, they know what's sarcasm. And if
they did approach me, I will say, no problem. I say.
I'll publicly say sarcast I've been saying the sarcast glad.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
But if you get ran off the rod by a
tractor trailer or something like that, probation, Bro, God.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Damn damn man, it's a joke, man, Man, love you, glad.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Man, you're my brother. Bro, Michael, go ahead, go ahead,
go ahead. What you was gonna say, my folk?
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I will say, Man, you know, if I get here
with the rock, you know you know where it came from.
Speaker 5 (42:40):
This is the rock. It's the rock rock.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Many man, Jay don't care. Man Jaya doesn't care about this.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
Not Manaires which guys don't care.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
Mann.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
And even though I predicted that Tory was to go
to jail, I have publicly said, because I did an
academic stream the other day, I'm like, based on what
he's gone through, he's been locked up for a couple
of years. He got stabbed her way worse than what
happened to Megan. I personally feel that he deserves to
come out at this point. I feel that he's paid
his debt to society.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
Were we all agree to me me, I'm cop out,
master flex man, I'm copping out.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
You say you got two, you say you got two?
A year probation guy, If he capped out, yo, I heard.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
I had heard from some people around him that it
was as low as a year and a half. No. Yeah,
but this was before Because you got to understand that
Megan wasn't involved in the investigation originally. It wasn't until
he started antagonizing her that she said, Okay, I'm going
to cooperate. Originally she didn't want to cooperate. That's why
she said, oh, I didn't get shot at I stepped
on glass. She actually was trying not to escalate the
(43:51):
situation with the police. But then he starts mocking her
and everything else like that, and it's like, okay, now
she started and then that's when she started to cooperating,
once he started to cooperate. But there was that window
before her cooperation where you could have copped out to
a year and a half, end up doing whatever, nine months,
you know, stay time and been home and making music
right now.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
But when she did decide to cooperate, where they orfering
it any other time besides ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Yeah, I had heard it was like a year and
a half, two years, and I heard at one point
it was like four years. But then you know, but
then at one point it was just it was over.
You know, it's like, all right, we're going to trial. Yeah,
you gotta you gotta, you know, I mean, he was
making songs about her. He was making songs about her.
Who makes songs about the the victim that they shot
(44:40):
that's going to take the stand against him?
Speaker 5 (44:41):
He did have a song, right, what was it called?
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Against what?
Speaker 5 (44:43):
He did have a song out?
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Then you know, he meant that there was a lyric
in there. You know how you get got or something
something something?
Speaker 5 (44:51):
How much got in? Now?
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Though, what are you like eight years or something?
Speaker 3 (44:54):
You know how much time he'd been in so far?
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Two years, I think, can think about two maybe going
like too yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah, but did you ever see the stabbing video? Did
you watch the video?
Speaker 5 (45:08):
The stabbing video?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Oh my god, man, Like when you saw that, like
that guy tried to kill him? That was not just
like a message that he really tried to kill him.
Like Tory's lungs collapsed. They had an airlift him to
a real hospital. The prison hospital was not equipped to
deal with those types of injuries. That's how bad it was.
They had an air lift him to a whole different
(45:29):
hospital and do surgery. So so think about think about
that whole situation, right, who that's crazy. But you know,
once again, you know that's why I was like, oh yeah,
j paid that dude to stab him up. Now what
had happened was you got a dude who was a pedophile,
who's doing life in prison, who has a girlfriend on
(45:50):
the outside, and Tory allegedly was flirting with her during
visiting days. Now, you know, think of out just in
the real world, trying to get a girl that you
like and you know, you know, form a relationship with
her and find someone that you're compatible with and so forth.
(46:11):
You're doing life in prison for killing an underage girl,
it's a little harder for you to find a girlfriend,
you know what I'm saying. And now R and B
superstars in there flirting with her. I can see how
you was snap.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Yeah, allegedly, we don't know if that's the story, but
allegedly that's how I posed.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
That's the story. That's the story. But if you look
at toy Man, all his problems always revolve around women.
It all goes back to a woman.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
Every time you're glad you know what. I want to
ask you what you think about.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
L Russell saying Lil Wayne never really said nothing in
his music, meaning like no substance. I just seen an
interview with that. He was like, he was a big
fan of Low Wayne. I guess he said as he
got older and revisited Lol Wayne's music, he said he
realized that Lil Wayne wasn't saying nothing.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I don't know the Russell personally. I know, you know,
he's from the Bay Area.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
So he just signed the Rock Nation being there and
he just signed the rock Nation.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
He just signed a rock Nation, and I don't I
don't know him personally, so I can't say, well, this
is what I think he was thinking. But from the
outside looking in, I think that the Russell has been
independent for so long, it's been under the radar because
of that, then that he actually, you know, has this
opportunity that he's getting all this attention. He's on rock Nation,
everyone's looking at him. I think he's he's turning up.
(47:28):
He's trying to troll. He's trying to get them on
the algorithm and by saying stuff like that, here we
are talking about it. Okay, I think it was calculated.
I think it was calculated.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
So then what she was doing was trolling too, then, right, trolling.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
I mean, think about it. When you guys got into
the altercation with John on the plane and started and.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Started recording, Murder trolled him.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
I was having some fun. But you know what's crazy
about that. Murder had it for like two three days.
He didn't really care about it, and then you know,
shout out to TMZ. They started calling and it was like, yo,
it is what it is. Every listen, everybody have their
opinion on it and saying, you know, we the bullies,
and some people saying, oh, that's what's up. And even
(48:16):
Congressman and Senate was coming to why did y'all keep
job the plane? I mean, some things just happened. When
you got the mayor of Aubany coming to you like, y'o,
why'd you kick job of the plane? All he Senate
people and the governor was the governor, she was there,
the Attorney General Trump, Yeah, they're all there, and they
you know, they're all saying why do you kick them
(48:37):
off the plane? Were like yo, Sometimes things just happen.
Then people saying what they would have did? I would
have knocked them out, y'all, y'all go fees, y'all this
y'all well, I would have listen, bro, we gotta fly
and make money. So we damned if we do. We
damned if we don't. If we were snuffed them and
got eighty six door flights, everybody like stupid, YO, fifty
give me your job.
Speaker 5 (48:57):
Fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
Yeah, yeah, let me get their job. They do no
more smoked duck. They would have shared on you. And
when we you know what I'm saying, and we don't
do it. We goofies. Yo, they' not like that. Don't
ever let this podcast shit fool you brother. Yeah, yeah,
you know what I mean because sometimes now we got
the podcastle people feel, you know, but everybody can have
an opinion, and I learned from you embrace the hey.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Not blast something else. I want to ask you, do
you think Michael Jordan could be canceled? Because it was
just footage of him grabbing on the low kick. But
you know what I'm saying, it's a little crazy shot.
I don't even know if he could be considered the
goat no more lights or after that buck grabbing he
was doing. I'm just saying Mike was doing a lot
of butck grabbing. Mike, Mike was doing a lot of
butt grabbing. My man, lights are over here. We we
(49:43):
have a lot of debates about sports. You know, I
think Lebron is to go. He think Kobe's the go there.
Michael Jordan is always in the you know who's supposed.
Speaker 5 (49:52):
To be the king go?
Speaker 3 (49:53):
He said as black Ware he had, you know, gonna
say Jordan's.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
But I do want to I wander know, do you
think Michael Jordan could be canceled? Because they they videos
out there surfacing to him, grabbed a little kid button
all that. But ya said, they said the kid parents
didn't even look mad with Mike Graant.
Speaker 5 (50:09):
No, they didn't even think you. I think that was
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
I'm not gonna make an excuse for him, but people
gonna say, that's like a basketball celebration coming from him. Now,
if it was somebody else, yeah, look woild it do
look wild. Don't get me wrong. But you hear people
saying was a pause? It was crazy, bro, it was
I'm not gonna say pause or nothing. It was crazy
to pause. But what I'm listening to what I'm saying,
that was a let you talk, because you don't.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
I think the way Mike squeezed it looked like if
it was Ai Inn then not.
Speaker 4 (50:38):
But the way I'm not saying that. But what I'm
saying is you are you still going about Jordan's.
Speaker 5 (50:42):
It was a pause. Look, let's look at the video.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Let's look at the video.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
It dude, look crazy, but the video go back to
the video.
Speaker 5 (50:52):
Hands squeen said, look at the hands squeens and they
did some more. Now was that a pause?
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Yet?
Speaker 4 (50:59):
It was crazy? I'm not saying it's not crazy. What
I'm saying is this Michael Jordan's. So people don't forget
about it in a couple of days because it's Michael Jordan's.
Speaker 5 (51:06):
But that as me and you just watching that video.
Was that a pause?
Speaker 4 (51:10):
I'm not saying a pause. I'm saying it's crazy. It
was crazy. It looked crazy. It was a pause moment
for Michael Jordan's.
Speaker 5 (51:17):
What do you think? Like what you think?
Speaker 2 (51:19):
I give it a pause?
Speaker 5 (51:20):
You give it a pause? Black.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
No, I'm not saying a pause is totally different than
what that was.
Speaker 5 (51:27):
That looks crazy. A little kid. Oh, he's gonna look.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
I don't even want to say, Okay, I got it,
y'all talking about pause?
Speaker 5 (51:34):
That looks crazy? What you think beyond pause? So would
you still by the Jordan's.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
It just looks it looks It looked crazy on the camera.
But what I'm saying is it looks like a celebration.
But it's Jordan. You know people are gonna be like, no,
if it was, you just said it's past pause. So
I still I don't want to who you. I got
Jordan's on my feet now you're gonna wear them too.
Speaker 5 (51:58):
I'm just saying, you said it's beyond pause. That's what
you said. I mean, it's on the people. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
I just seen the video for the first time. All
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (52:05):
I heard about it and some people were saying this
Ai and it's not a big deal.
Speaker 5 (52:09):
And he just won. That was that Ayas on it.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
That was his son. So I don't want to insinuate
like that.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
Jordan is wanted to go, so I would just think it's,
you know, a celebration, So I don't want to think.
Speaker 5 (52:21):
Like that, you know what I'm saying. And that was
the driver.
Speaker 4 (52:24):
Yeah, that's his first time winning, So I don't you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (52:28):
I know how it looked, though I saw the video earlier.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
I'm glad that was just seeing it because it looked crazy.
Speaker 4 (52:35):
I heard about it. Look crazy. But people say it's Ai.
But you know Jordan is still it's not Ai.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Ai.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
No, it's not Ai. That's what people were saying.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
No, it's not Ai. Calm down, but it's not Ai.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Calm down, brother, I didn't say it wasn't Aim.
Speaker 5 (52:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
We might have to take those Jordans off his feet, man,
we might have to take the Jordans off his feet play.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
What are you talking about? I mean, you never be
able to do that. So once you asked me what
size I wear, I know that means pop. I learned
that on a man for all the guys. Yeah, but
the jaws might be they might be no good no more.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
He might say, niggas might have to take them jawings off.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
I'm just said this pardicular situation. I don't think he's
really gonna get canceled like this because it's not like
he's doing this privately somewhere and they got a footage
of him, like he's obviously around a ton of people,
everyone's celebrating. I think he's trying to pack the kid
out the way sort of, and you know, the way
he did it I thought was in appropriate. But it's
not like he's meeting underage kids or you know, this
(53:47):
was a hidden video somewhere that you know it was
just him and a kid by themselves. Like, absolutely, he'd
be canceled if that was the case. But I think
this is just him. Listen, Jordan is when I talked
to that that's played with him. He has a level
of competition that's just insane, right, Like he will play
dice with his uh security guards, you know, for a dollar,
(54:11):
and expect them to pay that dollar at the end.
Speaker 5 (54:14):
You know what I'm saying about that money man.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
He remember he got caught up in the golf gambling situation,
like like he really like when he gambles or when
he competes. He's not like the rest of us. So
I think that this is his first like whatever race
car championship ever, So he's like, you know, suddenly he's
back into his Jordan.
Speaker 5 (54:34):
Mode, like he was just excited. He was excited, he's excited.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
He's just like I thought the kid was a teammate.
That's what it kind of looked like to me. It
didn't look like, oh, let me go feel up on
this little kids.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
But you know what I'm saying, to be doing that
to a teammate neither. But he.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
Knows, he knows he can't be slick about it. Everyone's
filming this, So I just think he just caught up
in the moment and he's just yeah, that's what I think.
But then again, listen to some other shit come out.
Then they're gonna go back to this video a gain.
Speaker 5 (55:06):
Definitely going back to that video. They definitely going back.
Speaker 3 (55:10):
Who's your top five basketball goats.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
In order? Just five period, in any order you want
to anywhere I want. Okay, Jordan's Shack, Kobe, Ai and Lebron.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
That's no order, that's just your top five top five. Yeah,
got you got you. That's a that's a good top five,
good top five.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (55:46):
I know my man like me and my man. Let
go right.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
People forget about Shack a lot like Shaq was just
level of dominance. He had you know who who could
push around Shock out there? Anyone.
Speaker 1 (55:59):
Shack was the truth. Even though Hakeem used to be
giving it to him. Yep, Kim used to be giving
it the Shack. So I to Kobe Lebron, enjoy how
you rate them?
Speaker 2 (56:12):
Yeah, let's go Jordan, Kobe Lebron.
Speaker 5 (56:17):
Okay, that's your opinion, Jordan Koby Lebron.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
Because I feel like when it comes down to it,
when when everything is on the line and that player
has to hold the whole team down, I think that's
the order that you see it in. When Jordan down,
you don't even pass the ball and nobody right, you know,
it's not a team sport anymore. It's over here.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
The best ball in the US Smith.
Speaker 2 (56:50):
No, but I can see an argument for Lebron being
the goat.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
I can see cause of course there you go, laugh
cause he's.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
All valid arguments.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
That's just flat opinion. It's just last opinion. Yeah, Bron
the goat.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
Yeah. I mean, listen, man, my man John Sally, he
just came by the house recently. That's my man, you know.
But that's my actual friend. But I'm not gonna say
he's better than Jordan. You know, people say that either, right,
But I think those three there's an argument you could
you could switch all those three around who you are.
And I feel like the younger generation because because you're
(57:24):
you're younger than me murdered. I feel like like they
just gravitate towards Lebron because they got to see it
in real time. There's something different. Like I got to
experience Thriller when it came out. I remember going to
the store and buying the cassette and hearing the songs,
when I remember seeing the beat It video, seeing the
(57:46):
Thriller video, you know, seeing the bad video, everything else
like that, Like like this is brand new music. You
can't really know. You can't go back to some old
ship and have the same experience of the person who
actually lived lived through it.
Speaker 5 (58:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (58:03):
This is why I'm not a huge Beatles fan, because
I'm just too young for that, right. But my older
cousins they love the Beatles, like, oh, like they're you know,
they're like Jesus. But you know, for the younger generation,
it's going to be Lebron. For the older generation is
going to be Jordan. For in the middle, it's going
to be Kobe. And people just gravitate because they're seeing
the games in real time. They're going to the games,
they're experiencing it, you know, they're meeting the players sometimes,
(58:26):
you know, like an eighteen year old doesn't really know
about Jordan, like that. They can wash the tapes, they
can wear the shoes, but it's not like actually experiencing
you know, the three peat and everything else like that,
and just the you know how how Jordan came in
and think about it. Before Jordan, it was a totally
different NBA.
Speaker 5 (58:47):
It was slow. It was slow.
Speaker 2 (58:50):
People were not yeah I mean, but I mean just
like just the hype of it, like who was really
buying magic Johnson's converses. Many people wore them, but it
wasn't like when the Jordan threes came out, it was like, yo, what.
Speaker 5 (59:03):
Is this, Like this is actually had converse?
Speaker 2 (59:06):
I don't yeah, yeah, yeah, what.
Speaker 5 (59:09):
Was that called? The weapons? Larry Magic, Larry Larry Bird
has the niggas too.
Speaker 2 (59:17):
Him and Larry Bird I think had conferences.
Speaker 5 (59:21):
The weapons. I never knew that.
Speaker 3 (59:23):
Oh I never even knew that. That's some basketball history
right there.
Speaker 2 (59:26):
But they were just the regular looking you know, like
the Jordan ones are kind of regular looking basket Choose.
Speaker 1 (59:32):
Your weapon, like lead the weapon, choose your weapon. That's crazy,
that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (59:40):
Look at that.
Speaker 2 (59:40):
Okay, yeah, you know Jordan came in and like, yo,
people weren't getting robbed for sneakers until the Jordans came out, Right,
you never hear people getting robed for their pumas, Like
the Jordan's not like the Jordans.
Speaker 5 (59:59):
You ain't lying.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
And the price point was crazy. It was like it
was so expensive at the time, and it's like, yo,
like these are investments on your.
Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Feet, hey fly, you know what makes Jordan's special to me?
Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
And like when you we just watched the All Star Game,
right who won the East of the West?
Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
Who won? Like the All Star Game, you did the
Young Boy they did. They did it different this year.
Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
They had the All Stars, the young come in and
they had the World League.
Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
The World League. So so who won?
Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
The Young Boys? The young boy? The young boys won?
Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
Right back in the days, didn't Michael Jordan do the
slam dunk contest?
Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
It was the world make the All Star Game crazy?
Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
If we had Lebron win Biyanna and give me somebody else,
you would think it was I think and wild say
we all had them, John Moran say, we had them
in a in a slam dunk contest. You know how
much views would go up for the All Star Game.
No more stars really want to do nothing when you've
seen Lebron is not doing a slam dunk contest, But
(01:00:58):
Jordan did so that to me, that's what makes it better.
When you, oh, Kobe did it too? Oh a right,
did you go like Kobe did it to y'all? But
imagine if them names was on a slam dunk contest.
Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Be popping right now, Ebie popping, shout out to my god,
mo power by indooring.
Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
The building for show. Indoor in the building. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
But now if you look at some of these high
school kids, I'd be seeing some some clips on the
Grammar some the kids that be doing some of these dunks,
they'd be getting busy. They need to bring them in
the league to at least entertain the people. Man, they
don't got to be in the league before a slam
Dunk contest. Go get the best dunkers in the world
and let them get busy. The young white boy, he
was killing it. I think he on Indiana now something.
He was killing it for a minute.
Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Though you call him a young white boy. What's his name?
Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
I forgot his name, young Indiana man. They know who
I'm talking about. He won the Slam Dunk contest I
think years mclum, mcclomb, yeah, Clo. He was killing and
he was killing the dunk cons. I don't know why
they have him in it this year.
Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I mean, isn't it sort of like but now you
got these dudes like Wemby who are just they don't
even have to do just walk over and just put
the ball in there.
Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
But just imagine his name being in the Slam Dunk
Contest with Lebron, John Moran and Edwards or something. Just
imagine that lineup that alone. To sell an old star
game stars need to start doing that. That's what we
want to see for the slam Dunk Contest in a
three point contest, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
They don't. I mean, I guess it's just I don't know.
I do know.
Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
No, No, I do know, I do know.
Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
You know. The real reason is why they would lose
to smaller names. Lebron would lose the slam Dunk contest.
Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
Right and Lebron too old now, But.
Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
I'm saying a lot of these bigger names would lose
to the smaller names. Yeah, and it was they would
look like the losers, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
I think that they think it would hurt the brain
something like that. They feel like it hurt the brand.
Things like that.
Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Sell less shoes and blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
You know, like Luca Lebron is an icon.
Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
You know he lost the slam Dunk Concert, Like, now,
fuck these shoes, Like I think. I think that's what
it is, the perception because it's it's a solo competition.
It's not like, Okay, well I lost the All Star Game,
but I was with a whole bunch of other players,
you know whatever. I played a one on one competition
and I lost to someone who's.
Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
There's no excuse when Jordan and Kobe do it. Like
like said, there's no excuse but they if Jordan, listen,
if Jordan and Kobe did the slam Dunk contest, there's
no excuse for no other star or icon not to
do it.
Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (01:03:40):
I'm just keeping it real in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Yeah, but I would love to see it, But I
just don't think it's gonna happen. You know, I think
SGA gonna do you know.
Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Everybody protecting their interest in that.
Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Their brands, they're interesting, every more money in it. Now.
What happens is that when you have these slam dunk
conscientt is a bunch of dudes that are like, you know,
role players and stuff like that. You know, like the
white boy you mentioned. You know, we're all talking about
him now, but he had nothing to lose. He don't
have his own shoe.
Speaker 5 (01:04:06):
You don't got no problem with black call him the
white boy? Who glad? Glad you said the white boy?
Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
I was letting y'all talk, all right, let you're not here, don't.
Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
You let blast say the white boy.
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Blah, you know what I want to know? Why do
you interview Tony ya yo so much black?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
He didn't get stabbed.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Out, So you missed the viral. You missed the viral?
Right now?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Tell me how many views you did when you put
out this story about Tory Lanes and rock Nation, because
you said a lot of crazy things and I don't
want to tell people what you told me.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
I want you to tell people.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Uh, it's that about I don't know, thirteen fourteen million
uh impressions on that one tweet and if you count
all the other you know, media outlets that picked it up,
and the tiktoks and you know the instagrams and the
other Twitter accounts, probably one hundred million easy.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Yeah, So what made you wake up? Right, uncle Murda?
We was thinking what made him wake up? And what
a troll today? Because it seemed like was.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
It trolling or what is it?
Speaker 5 (01:09):
What is it? To you? Murder?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It seemed like bladdest trolling. I think you trailer because
I'm like, this can't be true. I don't see these
guys paying him to do all of these things.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
But is everywhere right now?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So everybody want to know, and I'm glad you gave
us the exclusive in if you and know all that, Blad.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
So tell us because I thought you was hacked, I said, Glad,
I got to be hacked off, gladdest troller. So get
into the story with rock Nation and Tory lanees the
biggest thing on the Internet.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Let's get into it on the real report, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
So I've been talking about the Tory Lanes Megan situation
right after it happened, and as the information came out,
as you know, Megan said that I'm going to testify.
You know, I've quoted you a lot. You know, if
you have someone that you shoot and they get on
the stand and say you shot me, and this woman
on top of that, there is a very slim chance
(01:58):
he will beat that in trot, you might as well
just plead out. So as they're going back and forth
and he's antagonizing her and you know, she's responding and
everything else like that, I started saying to my interviews,
Tori's go to jail, And I was like, oh, you're
a hater whatever, And I'm like, look, based on what
I see, he's gonna go to jail. He d m me,
you know, trying to figure out what I know, calls
(02:20):
me a cop whatever else, that's whatever.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Man, Tory Lanez DMS you and called you a cop.
I never knew this.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, yeah he did. That's whatever. I don't care about that.
I think Tory Lanez is a dope.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Artist called all type of names. Was that I said,
You've been called all type of all? I agree.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Glad is my friend though you know, Glad is my friend.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
He's my guy.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
He helped me with a lot of stuff with learning
about this podcast. Thinking he never really hated on anybody
from what I see now, does he does? He pick
on people sometimes he doesn't know he does murder, you know,
and it's cool And this time you're picking on rock
Nation and Tory lanes Well, no.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
No, I'm not. I'm not even picking on rock Nation.
So basically, leading up to the trial, I was one
of the only people in hip hop media that kept
saying Toy's going to be found guilty and he's going
to go to jail. That doesn't make me a hater,
doesn't make me a snitch or a cop. It's just
based on the public information I was finding the trial,
I'm like, he's going to go to jail and everyone.
Whenever I did a poll on Twitter or you know, YouTube,
(03:26):
eighty percent of my viewer said, no, he's going to
beat it. He's going to walk away. You know, she's
lying whatever.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I predicted it too. Not to cut you off. I
predicted it too.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
I send it to you.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I said, no, you got somebody that's saying you shot them.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
I don't know. The case is not looking it's.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Not looking good, right, so lo and behold. He gets
found guilty and he goes to jail, and he files
an appeal, and the appeal falls through, and you think
that that's the end of it. But constantly you see
all this news footage that keeps coming out where it's like, yo, no,
she ever got shot. He actually had a press conference
(04:03):
because lawyers had a press conference that said he didn't
shoot her. Kelsey was shooting the gun and he hit
her arm. The gun fell to the floor and fired twice,
and that's how she got hit. Now listen, man, I'm
not Nicholas Irving, you know, the Army sniper. But I
have handled guns throughout my life, and I could tell
(04:24):
you if I threw a gun on the floor a
thousand times, I don't think you would fire twice. Am
I right?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
That don't sound too believable, But yeah, I know what
you're saying. I know what you're saying, right.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
So what made you wake up? Though? This is the room?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So this is what happened, right, So that morning, a
bunch of like Daily Loud and a bunch of other
like Domin's News I believe, and a bunch of other
like media outlests that I follow. Tarts running this video
of Tory's lawyers saying that Kelsey's bodyguard has come forward
and said that Kelsey's the shooter, not Toy. Everyone's going
(05:00):
crazy over this footage. And I'm looking at this going
like this is from last May. This art he came
out almost a year ago. The appeal went through and
it didn't happen. The appeal was struck down, and so
I posted this. I'm like, Yo, you're an idiot to
think that this is somehow news and that this is
somehow going to overturn this and people in the comments, yeah,
(05:21):
but you know Rock Nation they bought off the jury
and Rock it's really jay Z because remember Tory's dad, Like,
after Toy has found guilty, one of this whole rant
where you was screaming about rock Nation and jay Z
in the courtroom and everything else like that. Right, So
I said, okay, listen, like this, this guy is so
stupid at this point that I'm going to just do
a tweet or I'm going to take every conspiracy theory
(05:44):
around this and just listed one after the other. I
got paid by rock Nation. Jay Z paid off the jury,
and he paid off the judge and did a verse
for the judge's grandson, right, And and he paid the
Mexican dude to stab Tory in prison, and he paid
off the doctor to say that she got shot when
(06:06):
she really wasn't, and and he paid off everyone else.
Like yo, I'm like, okay, this is so stupid that
Noah's gonna believe this.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
And you're so saying the Internet does what it does best,
twist stuff up, change the conspiracy theories.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
But you knew.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
But you know why I was trolling, because you had
to know some of the now a jay Z versus crazy,
but him getting stabbed by rock Nation and all that,
that might be believable or something.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It might be believable. It might be believable. So you
mean to tell me that jay Z where he is
in life right now. Right, he's a billionaire, he's considered
one of the greatest ever. He's going to risk all
that to pay a pedophile, a Mexican pedophile, to do
a murder in prison over a guy with an you
(06:58):
know who's antagonizing an artist that's not even a big
priority to jay Z.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
But you're a credible Listen, you a credible source to
the culture. So people or like a lot of people
are like confused from what I'm hearing.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
It's a lot of it's coming from you. So people
don't know if you're hacked or you was, you was trolling,
or I.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Was not hacked. Man, I was trying to prove a point,
and I proved it that whatever stupidity you put out there,
there's gonna be millions of people that eat it up.
And I was right. No matter how stupid it is,
no matter how totally unbelievable it is, there's gonna be
someone that eats it up. And look, millions of people
ate it up. Millions. I proved my point. Did I
(07:43):
prove my point?
Speaker 4 (07:44):
You definitely did, because people ran with the story and
it definitely went viral. That's why we got you on
a real report right now, like sharing subscribe you know
what I'm saying, and we get we get told everything
that's real.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
So where do we go from here?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Because you're a credible sauce you you you're part of
the So people like.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
What are you? What are you hearing?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
What?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Like how people are calling your phone? What do they say?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
And I want to know, Black, how do you feel
about people like you? Cool as ship? Right? But how
do you feel about people saying you're a coach, a
bulcher too? Black?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Just the real He has a lot of money, ladies
and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
But I want to know how he really feels about
that though, because he's been a part of the culture
for so long, very long, So for people to say that,
how do you feel about that?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Black?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I mean, what's interesting is that both of y'all. I
was like doing interviews with both of you before Flat TV. Yep,
you guys are part of Black the Era facts for real,
for real. So you guys know how far I go back? Man,
I don't care about that. Every Every white person in
hip hop is called that at some point, you know,
Steve Rifkin gets called that, Lakoma, She's contributed Leo. Take
(08:48):
Lea her Cohen out of hip hop, and you would
have a very different hip hop. People don't want to
admit that, but there's a reason why he became president
of def Jam and then you know ahead of YouTube Music,
you know he was president. He was a chairman of another,
he was chairman of I think Atlantic at one point
like I may be getting wrong, but it's like, yo,
(09:10):
like I'm fine with being called that, but you know,
at the end of the day, it's like, at what
point do you just say we have to use our
common sense. What's interesting about that particular tweet is that
there's probably maybe like at least one hundred replies where
people are asking Groc is this real? And every time
(09:33):
Groc says no, it's parody, it's sarcasm, right, So AI
no sarcasm better than human beings? Now? Is that sad?
Isn't that kind of sad that AI does a better
job of telling someone it's sarcasm than the person themselves,
an actual human being? That's what's sad about this. That's
(09:56):
craz every TIMEROC and Groc doesn't even get shit right
sometimes and every time I got it is being sarcastic.
It's not real.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
This is this is you know what you know, you
know what's crazy when I look when I look at
like the DVD era, when I look at like the
my Space era, you know that the kids now don't
know about. You know, it was like, it was World Star,
it was This Is fifty, it was Vlad, it was
Forbes DVD, you know, and then you know, Fendy and
(10:27):
them had to come up, but they didn't have the website,
so you had to come up. And of course you
had Cocaine City with French and you had What's My
Man that always had the girls.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
You know my man?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, zero sub zero shout the sub zero.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
It was just.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
And that was the DVD.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
And then we transitioned into the internet where everybody somebody
get knocked out or whatever anything happens World Star and
then you had Vlad tvd TV, you had you had
This Is fifty, and you had Forbes DVD. So when
I look at the sport that we in hip hop
music entertainment, I think it breaks all color barriers. And
(11:07):
I'm gonna tell you why, Because when I'm overseas and
somebody knows my daughter name, my son name knows everything
about my life and they break down when my album dropped.
This that person might not even black or be black.
Or if we in Mexico or Colombia and people know
the music, it breaks every barrier in the world. To me,
(11:29):
we performed everywhere in the world, Arminia, Dubai, with Italy, France, India,
all parts of Africa, Morocco, Johannesburg and Gola. The list
goes like, you got some more for me, Tanzania, Give
(11:50):
me some more, like like like the barber and the building,
give me some more. Give me some more, like give
me some more like huh yeah, give me just anywhere
in the world because you you heap, like the barber
flew more places than me.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
So Qatar.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Kastan paused that sounds but we were in this pop
called Kakastan or something like that.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Saint Petersburg rushing Moscow. You know, this is what I'm saying.
So there is no color barrier or music. I feel
like it breaks every barrier because some people that don't
even understand English that listen to music.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
But back to vlat trolling though, right, you did a
good job. Lat I like that man.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Thank you, thank you. Hey man, listen, I think that
we have to use our brains sometimes, and it's easy
to think that there's always a conspiracy, there's always like
something behind the scenes and so forth. And that was like,
for example, like when I did the KPD interview, part
of the reason why I did it was there were
so many conspiracy theories about tupacketing killed Sugar. Did it?
(13:00):
Like if you want to kill someone and you weigh
three hundred pounds and they weigh one hundred pounds, would
you have them shoot up the car while you're in it?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, it's not too smart, but yeah, you know, nobody
trusts Sugar back in them days, though, government's gonna be
conspiracy theories.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
You just heard Sugar with pol They swapped the body.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
He's still alive in Cuba, and it's like, all right, well,
let me actually show you guys. This is the guy
that was actually the car when it happened, the last
living person.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Well, you know, they got the conspiracy now saying Jeffrey
Epstein is still alive. A guy looks just like him
with the bed walking around. Man, but we don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Let me didn't didn't Robert Duval pass away today.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yeah, rest of peace to him.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Godfather one of the classic mall movies. What is one
of your best classic mall movies? Give me give me
four or five of them, or maybe one of two
of them.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Black, I mean, I think my favorite, my favorite favorite
just piece of cinema about the Italian Mob's Casino, Okay,
just because there's so much longer than a lot of
the other films, and it really you got a chance
to really develop the story and see the relationships. And
you know, Joe Peshi was a lunatic. He was in
(14:10):
top for and this one, I mean, Goodfellas is an
absolute classic. Godfather too, that was my favorite Godfather film,
Donnie Brosco, that was a classic un people love, you know.
I interviewed a lot of talime off you guys, trying
to get some of them on your show.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Definitely, who was some some of the mob guys you
interviewed some of the people.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Want to send me the Bull, okay, Samdy the Bull.
I remember at one point.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
He told but killed nineteen people. I didn't mean to cut.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
You at least maybe more. Maybe At one point, I
remember we talked about this.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
He was selling gonna make him hot, saying maybe more.
You don't, but you tried to get him back. I'm
telling you not you talking like I can think.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
On his YouTube channel, he was selling uh, Sammy the
Bull nineteen shirts.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
Oh that's bold.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, and he said, oh, we took it down. I didn't.
I didn't realize they were doing he backed up off
that got wow, Yeah, Sammy the Bull, Michael franzis uh man.
A lot of a lot of big mob dudes, man,
you know, and a lot of FBI agents the busted them,
you know, Joey Merlino, the alleged Philly mob boss. It
(15:24):
was a really big one they had first ever, like
real interview was was on my platform. And now he's
out of there, you know. Now he's doing his own
podcast and everything else like that. Yeah, man, A lot
of a lot of interesting ds, and like Merlino, I
felt was the most like active in terms of like
(15:45):
a lot of the dudes I interviewed cooperation.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
He was real flashy. He didn't cooperate.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
No, he didn't cooperate it. But but what I'm what I'm
saying is is that most of the dudes I interviewed
cooperated at some point. Sammy cooperated, Michael Frenzies somewhat cooperated
and so forth. Joey never cooperates, So every answer that's moblazing.
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
They had something about him on Netflix, right the whole
Philly Mob. Yeah, that was a fisher. I like the joke.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
What was the name of that, the Philly Mob something
like that was on Netflix.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
But I remember that.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Right now I'm binge watching like I'm binge watching them
hijack with Oh my god, man, man, that's like the
best thing on TV for me right now.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
You've seen a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
No, I haven't watched that.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
That's part of the whole Game of Thrones, like Universe.
In the last episode, Oh my god, it was like
they made a scene where seven Nights have to fight
each other in just like this dirt field, and the
level of is just something different.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
I'm gonna watch that.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
You think about that, Just a bunch of knights in
harbor on horses and jousts and like maces and soul words,
just going all out trying to kill each other, seven
versus seven. Just a level of violence. So you know,
you rarely see that type of violence, like accurately depicted.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Make you what you're watching light what you're watching like
the ball.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I'm curbently watching Gangs in London right now. Season two
just came back out.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
That's what ye. Gangs in London is popping. Okay.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I think I watched the first season.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
The first year. The two just came out. Gangs in
London popping. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
But by the way, shout out to Aiden Ross Man.
I remember, I think I missed them for the first time.
When you guys we worked it out, man, I went.
I went to his uh well, and I'm twenty two
and Jason Love had that fight and Aiden Ross was
the one that hosted it. So we actually went to
his event and I watched it afterwards, you know.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Getting cool.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
He just got a layoff sheltered TD Man. Sheouter top
and everybody over there. I'm a big fan of hers.
My daughter is too shouting minight. You know, she's the
whole TD Man. She'll tell me, come on, don't mess
with dough she man. People take that personal, but we're
lat you.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Know, we better face to face. We hugged it out.
We SHA's numbers. We're gonna do an interview. We've been
in contact ever since and he's like, man, that's what
I realized about like this, this new breed of Internet,
you know people, is that they don't take nothing personally.
They just keep it moving.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
I learned from you, me and Murders getting a lot
of hate now that we're blowing up and we're doing
a number. Shout to the volume, Shout to all the haters,
and I just embraced that. Heye, I'm seeing a lot
of sideline hate, indirect hate, but we don't care because
we eating smoke, ducking Morocco. Baby, what shovla? Since we
got you here? Man, one of the most biggest music
is X in the world.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
In the scope.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Shout to Jimmy Ivien. I can tell y'all my ill
is Jimmy Ivin's story is me and him in fifty
eating lunch on top of in the scope, and I
kept my mouth shut the whole time. Shout to Jimmy Ivien,
Doctor dre Eminem, everybody over there, right Paul Rosenberg fifty.
Did you hear what he said about how dreaming is
gonna be absolutely soon, absolute absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah. I watched the whole interview, Man, great interview.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Uh, I mean corrected my words to plan. I got
the sometimes you got.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
You know, I teach him about the salad. For now
he's teaching me about words.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
It's brother.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
We're gonna take the last interview where where YO kept
calling bad buddy Babs Buddy.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I sw that you had to check. I see that, buddy, Yo.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I don't know why I be doing that. Sometimes I
start calling people when I want to call him out.
It's bad happy. I don't know, Man, I don't I'll
be tripping. I gotta stop smoking so much, buter and
getting the gym to stop. I'm gonna slow down, man,
shout to the unit. This mode indoor too.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
What Jimmy said was interesting is that he basically said
how all the record labels made a deal with Spotify,
and now Spotify is bigger than all the record labels
put together in terms of the market cap. If you
look at how much Spotify is worth versus what the
record labels are worth, all of them put together are
worth less than just Spotify, and the record labels only
get like a small percentage of the overall pie. So
(20:17):
what he was saying is is that in the future
Spotify may not be necessary or streaming services may not
be necessary because you'll be able to you know, they
basically say He basically said that music is like the
only industry where the artists or the label and the
consumer don't connect with each other. They always go through
(20:37):
a third party. So they're always relying on a third party,
whether it's you know distribution, well, I mean physical distribution
or now digital distribution. It's like they still can't get
directly to the person who's buying the product because the
middleman controls that. And that's what he's saying. He's saying
in the future that might you know, that might change
and it needs to change. But we'll see how would
(20:58):
that change though, Well, if there is a if you
don't need Spotify, right, And what he said was interesting
also is that when you look at Spotify, most of
the money goes to just the top artists, the Drakes,
(21:18):
the Taylor Swifts, the cats, right. And but you know,
the way the way it's structured is like let's say
a person paid ten pays ten dollars ten dollars a month,
a certain percentage goes to who he listens to, and
if only one percent is going to the independent artists,
like everyone who's uploading music. Who's not this megastar. They're
(21:38):
really making almost nothing. The Drakes are doing okay.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
They're not even getting paid. Do you can say they're
not even getting paid?
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
So so for example on streams, when you look at
the catalogs that are up on DSPs with your catalogs,
do you guys make a lot of money or not? Really?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, I make some money, good amount of money. Shut
out the Empire, shout out the guys. Need I just
did a deal for seven figures with the music. So
it's definitely still money.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Shut out check never murder project.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
But we definitely do yeah, like we got you know,
we got.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Your still money and music guys. I was saying all
by like like tro the ball Man, I'm doing great
over there. So it's still money and music for artists
like Free Step G and Sleepy. They still making a
bunch of music off like so.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
But it ain't Tailor Swift money.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Of course, we know that it's still money that no
people they feeding their families off with this money.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Like what Jimmy Irving was saying that that the artists
like Taylor Swift and Kendrick and like.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
That they and you know, they benefit, you know, because
they do streams, they.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Gonna benefit more, but we're gonna still benefit as well.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Like were good.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
We don't need tailor Swift money to survive, but we
from like that, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
No, I understand what you're saying, but I'm saying that's
what Jimmy Irving was saying, like, and then he said
something about like there's no exclusive something like artists being excuse.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, yeah, exclusives are dead. Everybody people were like dropping
on on title exclusively and it wasn't going on Spotify,
but then messed up people's first week sales. I think
that's the problem is that in music, people care about
the perception more so than the money. Right, the fame
(23:20):
becomes more important, and it even makes financial sense because
a lot of the money comes from the touring, right,
So if you don't have the fame, the touring doesn't
come with it. But remember everyone was dropping exclusives on
title and no one was charting in the top ten,
So people just stopped doing that, even though there was
might have been more money by dropping exclusively on title.
When you don't drop it on Spotify and Apple Music,
(23:41):
you don't hit the charts and then it ends up
looking like you're not a big artist, and then you know,
it's like a domino effect. But there was more money.
I remember I looked into like Kanye dropped don to
two on the like the stem player. I don't know
if you ever saw it. You could actually take out
like the vocals, take out the drums. Yeah, he was
(24:05):
telling it for like two hundred dollars, and he sold
like an insane amount. Like I remember I did the math,
and like he made something like two or three million
dollars off just that and he didn't even sell that many,
but it was a high ticket price and it was
direct and it was like yo, and you didn't even
hear about it didn't hit the charts, but he made
way more than if he had released it publicly and
hit the charlest guy. I think that's what Jimmy is saying,
(24:28):
and this is that remains to be seen. We'll see.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
I mean, I think guys like Jimmy I Ving could
predict the future when it comes to music because we
was on Interscope when things was changing, when things went
to iTunes and stuff like that. We was in that transition,
like we went from hard copies to you know, streaming.
So we seen the transition and that's when they you know,
(24:53):
did the headphones and was working with Apple. So a
guy like Jimmy il Vien and you know doctor Dre,
they predicted future in music.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Like from my opinion, from what I've seen from them.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, yeah, so when he says it, you gotta you gotta,
you know, prick your ears.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Definitely.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I remember when me and uh le Or Cohen spoke
a couple of years ago and I said, what's the
main priority for YouTube, because he's the head of YouTube
Music Global, he said shorts. I paid attention. I started
to doing more shorts, and sure enough, YouTube course have
surpassed like TikTok shorts.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
So I never knew that its information.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Man. When you you know, when people high up talk,
you should listen.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I would think TikTok was more.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
That's crazy now, man, YouTube is a monster and YouTube
is a monster. And at the end of the day,
in terms of businesses, like if you're a business and
trying to make money off your content, there's nothing like YouTube.
No one even comes close.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
You.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, YouTube accounts like ninety percent of our revenue. Yeah,
we make a few percent off Spotify, few percent off Facebook,
a off of a snapchat, you know, and some other
money here and there, but really, really when it comes
to serious money and where we really park our content
as YouTube.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
So so let me ask you a question because me
and Murder was talking about this. Shelter You and Jada Shelter,
j Charlemagne to Breakfast Club Envy just hilarious, Laura and everybody.
So we know now you no longer see them on
YouTube anymore, they're on Netflix. Would you take a Netflix
deal if the money was right or you think, what
(26:28):
do you feel about that Netflix versus YouTube?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I don't see blag going in Netflix. I think is
YouTube thing?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, I mean every every deal you know, makes sense
if there's enough money in it, right, but it has
to be like like for example, right, I'll just expose
this because it was such a stupid deal. Patreon approached me, right,
and I've had a lot of bad deal offers, but
this this, by far, it was the worst deal offer
(26:57):
I ever had. So so they approached this. Listen, you
have a really strong membership section of your YouTube channel.
You know, we want to talk to you about bringing
your members over to Patreon and we'll guarantee you two
years of what you would have gotten on YouTube, you know,
to go to Patreon. And I said, this sounds interesting, right,
(27:19):
So so you know, there's a lot of money because
there's you know, talk about thousands of thousands of members.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Right, so we make a lot of money. Black ahead,
keep talking.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, I do, okay with an important important part of
the business that I've grown over over years and me
started with row members and now it's like, you know,
over ten thousand members. So uh, I'm like all right.
So I had the conversation with everyone and I'm like
they're like, yeah, you know, and here you could you know,
we offer this, and we offer that. And I'm like,
all right, before we go any further, are you asking
(27:48):
me to shut down my YouTube membership and go exclusively
with Patreon? And they're like yeah, And I'm like, okay,
So I'm going to shut down on a successful, growing
business and go to you guys to make the same
money I'm already making with that business. It doesn't work
(28:11):
out over here. I go back and there's no business
anymore because once you shut down the membership, all the
members go away and you have to rebuild it from zero.
I said, how on earth does this make any sense?
You offered me the same amount of money I'm making
over here to come over there. It don't work out,
and I have nothing to go back to. Well, you
know lots of people. I'm like, man, this is stupid.
(28:32):
Y'all wasted my goddamn time. I said, pay me ten
times what I'm making in a year and I'll consider it.
I oh, no, we can't do that. And I'm like, well,
we don't have a conversation. You know, you waste my
fucking time. It's a stupid ass offer. A stupid ass offer. No,
that's like saying, listen, whatever you guys make in streaming money,
(28:56):
I'll match it for two years and then if it
doesn't work out, you go back to making zero.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Yeah, it don't make no sense. I can give me
some extra I need something.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
There was nothing that I said, give me ten times,
give me a ten year stretch to work it out,
and then you know, give me that money up front.
We could talk about it. I know we can't do that.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
How do you feel about our set up? Because right
now they got all these fucking lights. I feel like
I'm in a spaceship a little bit super pop up up.
We got the lights canvas action man. But Yo, the
number one rule you always told me was and was
to embrace the hate. And I'm really getting it now.
And shout to all the people that show the love
(29:37):
that been watching the show. You know, y'all make sure
you know we sponsored by hard Rock Betting. You may
make sure y'all like share, subscribe, you're doing them numbers.
Hold on Murder.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
We said we we're gonna stop cutting each other.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yeah, we reading the comments talking about our arguing and
cutting each other off.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
See Murder. This the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
You gotta understand. People gotta understand.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
My mefort to the madness is I don't watch my
own videos any glad I did Shinn and Sharp anything
I do. I never watched back Andrew Schultz kill Tony.
I never watch it. I don't know if Murder's watching it.
I'm not watching it, and I don't read comments. But
I always embrace the hate, and I see who's hate
(30:18):
I'm watching them. I watch everything. But we appreciate everybody, Lad,
And what's your advice to people in the podcast world
to you know, to embrace the hate? Like, what what
advice you give us in this game right here.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I think that you have to figure out what exactly
you're really good and passionate about. I think a lot
of people try to chase what other people are doing
and that doesn't work out. Like Joe and Jada are
authentically who they are and that's why people like the podcast,
(30:54):
right But a lot of people try to emulate other
people and it doesn't work. And not only that, but
you have to be prepared to go a long time
without making any real money because not only do you
go in with the deal like you guys have, right,
but even with the deal that you guys have, you
guys have to bring the numbers of course, so you
know what I'm saying. So if you guys will get
(31:14):
the upfront deal, but then a year two years into it,
if you're not pulling the numbers, that deal will end
and you guys don't have to start over, you know,
on a different platform or your own platform or everything
else like that. You have to be prepared to go
in this in the long run. Glad TV start in
two thousand and eight, so we're now eighteen years into
this of doing this every day like literally no days off,
no real vacations, you know, putting out content three hundred
(31:36):
and sixty five days a year. Certain interviews hit, certain
ones don't. But we just keep going and a lot
of people come in, you know, do it for a
little while and then see that doesn't compete with the
type of money they're already making, and then they quit.
You see what I'm saying, deal or no deal, you
still have to look at it as a real job
as opposed to just a side hustle. Got you see
what I'm saying. If you treat it seriously, you could
(31:57):
do great with it. You know. Nori came in after
I did, he did great with it. Gillian Wallow came
in a way after I did, did great with it.
Academics out of twenty two, you've seen a lot of people.
But if you look at all those people, they took
it really seriously, you know, whereas other people it's just
a little side gig. They do, you know, an interview
every so often, they do a podcast every so often.
You know Nicki Mina, she was doing her radio thing
(32:19):
every so often. It didn't really stick, right, Drake doing
it every so often. You know, they get these deals,
but they don't stick with it. So the people that
are really, really successful, they take it one hundred percent
seriously and they stick with it, and whether they have
a deal or whether they don't have a deal, they
still are trying to put out the highest level of
content because the deal is not going to stay if
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the numbers don't stay, you know, don't coincide with the
amount of money. Nobody goes into this game to lose money.
And I talk to people all the time when you know,
we have conversations that people expect, Oh, I want to
get paid this much to do an interview, and it say, well,
this does make financial sense, so no offense. I'm not
saying you're not worth what you feel your worth, but
(33:01):
I know what it's going to make on my and
there's no point of paying you twice what I'm gonna make, right,
That's just me putting myself on the whole. And I've
had interviews where I've lost money, but not that often
because I've gotten pretty good at at figuring things out.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Blad.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
You know what I want to know, Why do you
interview Tony Yayo so much?
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Blad?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I'm ah, that's elementary, Acla. The question elementary, Why did
you interview Tony yayo so much.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Well, who wanted to know.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Look, the plan was not to interview Tony Yo a
bunch of times. The plan was just to do one interview, right,
and you know, when we do an interview, we kind
of do like a life story piece on that person,
so as it so happens, and Tony remembers me and
him were not on the best of terms we did
this interview. There's a little bit attention.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I'm at a point my brother, he used to work out,
just like me and Fat Joe. Things could work out. Look,
shout at the value. Shout to Joe and Jada. Look
he help us get this deal over breakfast in Belgium
or Germany where you said yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
And you could even tell that first interview me and him,
there's a little bit of tense energy between us, right,
that whole shut the fuck up that came from the
first interview, but it came out and look, I could
have cut out the whole shut the fuck up and
go man, he disrespected me. Fuck there, I ain't gonna
put that out. I mean, I have final cut. I
could cut out whatever I want. But I'm like, no,
I'm gonna run with this. This this is actually funny.
(34:33):
And this became a meme right to this day.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Why me meme?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Meme mean?
Speaker 5 (34:41):
It became I'm gonna help you with a couple of
these girls.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
I know the words, but this mean this is a
mean word too, right this meme and meme or no,
it's just me alright.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Right ship it became a meme. The interview did big numbers,
and then it was like, let's try a second interview.
Did a second interview and it did solid numbers. And
then it became a profitable and mutually profitable relationship. And
over time it also became a personal relationship. Me and
Tony started talking more offline and I got to really
(35:14):
see who he was as a person. And you know
it's like me and him start a vibe with each
other and everything else like that, you know, hung out.
You know, we would have breakfast at the country club
and you know.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
These sheltered at Calabasis country kid, we're doing different things.
Embrace the heye man, I learned from Bla bled. They say,
you know you're a coach of Vota. You don't you know,
you don't respect people. Tell him how much money you
spent because you spent the most money guests.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
I've paid out.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I've paid out over a million dollars to guests, and
I could even I could even like, if I had to,
I could even break it down by each guest. You
see what I'm saying, Like, I don't think there's anyone
in this space that has paid that amount of money
to guess. And I feel like before I started doing it,
this was considered a no no in the media game.
(36:04):
It's like if you do an interview supposed to be
for free, right, sixty minutes is free, you know Diane
Sawyer free, Like it's always you know Oprah free, you
know radio station's free. So during the pandemic, I'm like, Yo, listen,
some of these people who are my regular guests are
hurting right now, like especially like the comedians. The comedians
(36:26):
were hit the worst because they suddenly couldn't tour and
that's how they made their money. So I said, Yo,
let me start putting some money in some of these
comedians pockets that are still rocking with me. And now
I'm not depending on just a favor or the relationship.
It's like, Yo, let's turn into a real business. Like, Yo,
I'm going to pay you I'm going to put it out.
We're both going to make money. And that created a
(36:47):
whole industry and of itself. I remember when me and
Birdman first had our conversation, he was like, man, like,
what you did was interesting because I never saw anyone
pay for interviews, and now you've created a whole business
around it. Now people support themselves through paid interviews, and
now everyone pays, you know, more or less he you know,
and so forth, And you had all these businesses that
(37:07):
have flourished, and the people who have gotten paid have
now created their own careers and you know, create their
own podcast like you for example, Tone Like, you know,
you went from getting paid to do interviews, so now
doing your own podcast.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
I mean definitely, and that's not a coincidence.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Me being on vlat TV gave me the experience.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
And you gotta have tough skin, you know what I'm saying,
to be on YouTube, and you gotta be smart, and
you gotta be strategic. And to anybody, lad as one
of them platforms that every artist or anybody should go to,
because it's a big platform. When I'm overseas in Europe anywhere,
everybody the number one interviews.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
They always talk about as glad TV.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Even we did shout to the Black Caucus family out
there in Albany. We're chilling with the mayor and the congressman.
You know, all of them was talking about you know,
flat TV. They seen interview, another viral one, another one
in the books.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
You know it was great, good promo, you know what
I mean. And they watched lads.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
You know, smoke Duck is like it's super viral, you know,
shout to everybody every time they put it up.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
I definitely post them.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
And I think it's pretty dope because you got people
from all walks of life that are showing how dope
it is the vacation. They're showing their vacation and they
send them even smoke Duck in my Morocco.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
It's even more motivation for me.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Now, I don't want to go places that we haven't been,
Like you know, I don't know where we haven't been.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
I definitely got to get to Haiti.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
That's one place, Shout told my Thous that's one place
I haven't been. We're supposed to go to Wide Cliff
what was that way back? You know, but Shout told Myzos,
I definitely want to go to Haiti, nice resort.
Speaker 5 (38:45):
And just chill. Your hating yourself, right, Yeah, definitely both parents.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
So you have you ever been, You've never been back.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Never been to Haiti. I'm born in America.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
I would have got deported if I wasn't born here
because I had felting these and stuff, so they would
have sent me back to Haiti.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Right, But you never. But I'm saying, your family's from there,
your nerveing back, you should go.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Mann, That's one trip that I definitely want to take.
All kind of things happen in Haiti. Man, it's it's
you know, but it's a real beautiful country, beautiful water.
You know what I'm saying. It's real nice resort. So
you know, my mom's telling me that all the time.
So I definitely want to go out there. And the
food is amazing, nothing like some Haitian rites and lambie.
You know what I'm saying, Haitian potato salad. Dominican people
say it's they potato salad, though the beat salad. Like
(39:27):
I heard Dominicans say that's how potato salad, But it's
Haitian potato salad.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Mean, it's the same island I've been in dr but
never been in Haiti, but it's the same island, right.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
Yeah, it's the same island.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
You can say that, but but I love you know,
I'm talking about the Haitian potato salad, which I love.
It's like beats instead of regulatious potatoes. Is beats in
it too, so it's red.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
So I love that.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
But Dominicans people do it the same way too. Shout
to the Dominican people.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
You know in New York. You know how they go.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Man, But Vlad, you got a good ass setting behind you. Man,
I see the fireplace you live in good I'll check you.
I'm gonna come check you. At the Calabastis Uh country Club.
We walked in there. They looked at us like we
was crazy. They got your hat, Yeah, they made you
take off your real classy.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
He was the only black dudes in there. Hollywood. Shout the
Hollywood man.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Thank you for your time on The Real Report sponsoredby
Hall Rock Betting. You know we Gotvlad TV.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Already know Black Me and you barely got to talk.
It was just like another you and Yeo interview. But
it's all just the arrible port you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Hey man, you gotta have this questions ready, you gotta
have you you know.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Man, where's the pillow?
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Pillows today? No pillows today?
Speaker 4 (40:38):
So you on the you on the west coast, You
on the west coast, stand out the cold.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Man, it's raining out here. But now like what you'all
going through.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
Yeah, we get you know, it's actually a little nice.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
I see you, gottle. The weather got a little better.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
I got a little nice out here today.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
We a little twenty year twenty years low I heard
in terms of weather, and man.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
It was like Alaska low two weeks right, yeah, cold
in Alaska.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
It's crazy. You know what. The thing I hate is
the shoveling. It's like that, you know for the city,
y'all put the y'all not the snow out the street, right,
but then y'all block everybody's car. So when I go
to Queens, everything was like a one way. So don't
have a big truck or anything like that, or you know,
even having a regular car.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
It was just it was crazy.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
They gotta find remember that thing we was talking about
in Canada, They gotta find a way to melt that
snow or something m And then there's a conspiracy theory
saying that it's fake snow spend there for two weeks
like your conspiracy theory.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
AI you started that too, probably, black man.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Listen, Shout out to rock Nation. Shout out to Jay
Z uh the lawyer, say.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
Lanes, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Shout out to Makan Though Thompson and Klay Thompson there right, Yeah, shout.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
After all of them.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Man, listen. Uh. People ask whether Jay Z's lawyers have
approached me. No, they have not approached me because they
know they know it's sarcasm. They know this is not
some uh you know what's the name of that Jaguar
Wright type ship, right, they know what's sarcasm. And if
they did approach me, I will say, no problem. I say.
I'll publicly say sarcast I've been saying the sarcast glad.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
But if you get ran off the rod by a
tractor trailer or something like that, probation, Bro, God.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Damn damn man, it's a joke, man, Man, love you, glad.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Man, you're my brother. Bro, Michael, go ahead, go ahead,
go ahead. What you was gonna say, my folk?
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I will say, Man, you know, if I get here
with the rock, you know you know where it came from.
Speaker 5 (42:40):
This is the rock. It's the rock rock.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Many man, Jay don't care. Man Jaya doesn't care about this.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
Not Manaires which guys don't care.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
Mann.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
And even though I predicted that Tory was to go
to jail, I have publicly said, because I did an
academic stream the other day, I'm like, based on what
he's gone through, he's been locked up for a couple
of years. He got stabbed her way worse than what
happened to Megan. I personally feel that he deserves to
come out at this point. I feel that he's paid
his debt to society.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
Were we all agree to me me, I'm cop out,
master flex man, I'm copping out.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
You say you got two, you say you got two?
A year probation guy, If he capped out, yo, I heard.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
I had heard from some people around him that it
was as low as a year and a half. No. Yeah,
but this was before Because you got to understand that
Megan wasn't involved in the investigation originally. It wasn't until
he started antagonizing her that she said, Okay, I'm going
to cooperate. Originally she didn't want to cooperate. That's why
she said, oh, I didn't get shot at I stepped
on glass. She actually was trying not to escalate the
(43:51):
situation with the police. But then he starts mocking her
and everything else like that, and it's like, okay, now
she started and then that's when she started to cooperating,
once he started to cooperate. But there was that window
before her cooperation where you could have copped out to
a year and a half, end up doing whatever, nine months,
you know, stay time and been home and making music
right now.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
But when she did decide to cooperate, where they orfering
it any other time besides ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Yeah, I had heard it was like a year and
a half, two years, and I heard at one point
it was like four years. But then you know, but
then at one point it was just it was over.
You know, it's like, all right, we're going to trial. Yeah,
you gotta you gotta, you know, I mean, he was
making songs about her. He was making songs about her.
Who makes songs about the the victim that they shot
(44:40):
that's going to take the stand against him?
Speaker 5 (44:41):
He did have a song, right, what was it called?
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Against what?
Speaker 5 (44:43):
He did have a song out?
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Then you know, he meant that there was a lyric
in there. You know how you get got or something
something something?
Speaker 5 (44:51):
How much got in? Now?
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Though, what are you like eight years or something?
Speaker 3 (44:54):
You know how much time he'd been in so far?
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Two years, I think, can think about two maybe going
like too yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah, but did you ever see the stabbing video? Did
you watch the video?
Speaker 5 (45:08):
The stabbing video?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Oh my god, man, Like when you saw that, like
that guy tried to kill him? That was not just
like a message that he really tried to kill him.
Like Tory's lungs collapsed. They had an airlift him to
a real hospital. The prison hospital was not equipped to
deal with those types of injuries. That's how bad it was.
They had an air lift him to a whole different
(45:29):
hospital and do surgery. So so think about think about
that whole situation, right, who that's crazy. But you know,
once again, you know that's why I was like, oh yeah,
j paid that dude to stab him up. Now what
had happened was you got a dude who was a pedophile,
who's doing life in prison, who has a girlfriend on
(45:50):
the outside, and Tory allegedly was flirting with her during
visiting days. Now, you know, think of out just in
the real world, trying to get a girl that you
like and you know, you know, form a relationship with
her and find someone that you're compatible with and so forth.
(46:11):
You're doing life in prison for killing an underage girl,
it's a little harder for you to find a girlfriend,
you know what I'm saying. And now R and B
superstars in there flirting with her. I can see how
you was snap.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Yeah, allegedly, we don't know if that's the story, but
allegedly that's how I posed.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
That's the story. That's the story. But if you look
at toy Man, all his problems always revolve around women.
It all goes back to a woman.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
Every time you're glad you know what. I want to
ask you what you think about.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
L Russell saying Lil Wayne never really said nothing in
his music, meaning like no substance. I just seen an
interview with that. He was like, he was a big
fan of Low Wayne. I guess he said as he
got older and revisited Lol Wayne's music, he said he
realized that Lil Wayne wasn't saying nothing.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I don't know the Russell personally. I know, you know,
he's from the Bay Area.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
So he just signed the Rock Nation being there and
he just signed the rock Nation.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
He just signed a rock Nation, and I don't I
don't know him personally, so I can't say, well, this
is what I think he was thinking. But from the
outside looking in, I think that the Russell has been
independent for so long, it's been under the radar because
of that, then that he actually, you know, has this
opportunity that he's getting all this attention. He's on rock Nation,
everyone's looking at him. I think he's he's turning up.
(47:28):
He's trying to troll. He's trying to get them on
the algorithm and by saying stuff like that, here we
are talking about it. Okay, I think it was calculated.
I think it was calculated.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
So then what she was doing was trolling too, then, right, trolling.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
I mean, think about it. When you guys got into
the altercation with John on the plane and started and.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Started recording, Murder trolled him.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
I was having some fun. But you know what's crazy
about that. Murder had it for like two three days.
He didn't really care about it, and then you know,
shout out to TMZ. They started calling and it was like, yo,
it is what it is. Every listen, everybody have their
opinion on it and saying, you know, we the bullies,
and some people saying, oh, that's what's up. And even
(48:16):
Congressman and Senate was coming to why did y'all keep
job the plane? I mean, some things just happened. When
you got the mayor of Aubany coming to you like, y'o,
why'd you kick job of the plane? All he Senate
people and the governor was the governor, she was there,
the Attorney General Trump, Yeah, they're all there, and they
you know, they're all saying why do you kick them
(48:37):
off the plane? Were like yo, Sometimes things just happen.
Then people saying what they would have did? I would
have knocked them out, y'all, y'all go fees, y'all this
y'all well, I would have listen, bro, we gotta fly
and make money. So we damned if we do. We
damned if we don't. If we were snuffed them and
got eighty six door flights, everybody like stupid, YO, fifty
give me your job.
Speaker 5 (48:57):
Fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
Yeah, yeah, let me get their job. They do no
more smoked duck. They would have shared on you. And
when we you know what I'm saying, and we don't
do it. We goofies. Yo, they' not like that. Don't
ever let this podcast shit fool you brother. Yeah, yeah,
you know what I mean because sometimes now we got
the podcastle people feel, you know, but everybody can have
an opinion, and I learned from you embrace the hey.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Not blast something else. I want to ask you, do
you think Michael Jordan could be canceled? Because it was
just footage of him grabbing on the low kick. But
you know what I'm saying, it's a little crazy shot.
I don't even know if he could be considered the
goat no more lights or after that buck grabbing he
was doing. I'm just saying Mike was doing a lot
of butck grabbing. Mike, Mike was doing a lot of
butt grabbing. My man, lights are over here. We we
(49:43):
have a lot of debates about sports. You know, I
think Lebron is to go. He think Kobe's the go there.
Michael Jordan is always in the you know who's supposed.
Speaker 5 (49:52):
To be the king go?
Speaker 3 (49:53):
He said as black Ware he had, you know, gonna
say Jordan's.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
But I do want to I wander know, do you
think Michael Jordan could be canceled? Because they they videos
out there surfacing to him, grabbed a little kid button
all that. But ya said, they said the kid parents
didn't even look mad with Mike Graant.
Speaker 5 (50:09):
No, they didn't even think you. I think that was
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
I'm not gonna make an excuse for him, but people
gonna say, that's like a basketball celebration coming from him. Now,
if it was somebody else, yeah, look woild it do
look wild. Don't get me wrong. But you hear people
saying was a pause? It was crazy, bro, it was
I'm not gonna say pause or nothing. It was crazy
to pause. But what I'm listening to what I'm saying,
that was a let you talk, because you don't.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
I think the way Mike squeezed it looked like if
it was Ai Inn then not.
Speaker 4 (50:38):
But the way I'm not saying that. But what I'm
saying is you are you still going about Jordan's.
Speaker 5 (50:42):
It was a pause. Look, let's look at the video.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Let's look at the video.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
It dude, look crazy, but the video go back to
the video.
Speaker 5 (50:52):
Hands squeen said, look at the hands squeens and they
did some more. Now was that a pause?
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Yet?
Speaker 4 (50:59):
It was crazy? I'm not saying it's not crazy. What
I'm saying is this Michael Jordan's. So people don't forget
about it in a couple of days because it's Michael Jordan's.
Speaker 5 (51:06):
But that as me and you just watching that video.
Was that a pause?
Speaker 4 (51:10):
I'm not saying a pause. I'm saying it's crazy. It
was crazy. It looked crazy. It was a pause moment
for Michael Jordan's.
Speaker 5 (51:17):
What do you think? Like what you think?
Speaker 2 (51:19):
I give it a pause?
Speaker 5 (51:20):
You give it a pause? Black.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
No, I'm not saying a pause is totally different than
what that was.
Speaker 5 (51:27):
That looks crazy. A little kid. Oh, he's gonna look.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
I don't even want to say, Okay, I got it,
y'all talking about pause?
Speaker 5 (51:34):
That looks crazy? What you think beyond pause? So would
you still by the Jordan's.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
It just looks it looks It looked crazy on the camera.
But what I'm saying is it looks like a celebration.
But it's Jordan. You know people are gonna be like, no,
if it was, you just said it's past pause. So
I still I don't want to who you. I got
Jordan's on my feet now you're gonna wear them too.
Speaker 5 (51:58):
I'm just saying, you said it's beyond pause. That's what
you said. I mean, it's on the people. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
I just seen the video for the first time. All
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (52:05):
I heard about it and some people were saying this
Ai and it's not a big deal.
Speaker 5 (52:09):
And he just won. That was that Ayas on it.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
That was his son. So I don't want to insinuate
like that.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
Jordan is wanted to go, so I would just think it's,
you know, a celebration, So I don't want to think.
Speaker 5 (52:21):
Like that, you know what I'm saying. And that was
the driver.
Speaker 4 (52:24):
Yeah, that's his first time winning, So I don't you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (52:28):
I know how it looked, though I saw the video earlier.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
I'm glad that was just seeing it because it looked crazy.
Speaker 4 (52:35):
I heard about it. Look crazy. But people say it's Ai.
But you know Jordan is still it's not Ai.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Ai.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
No, it's not Ai. That's what people were saying.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
No, it's not Ai. Calm down, but it's not Ai.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Calm down, brother, I didn't say it wasn't Aim.
Speaker 5 (52:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
We might have to take those Jordans off his feet, man,
we might have to take the Jordans off his feet play.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
What are you talking about? I mean, you never be
able to do that. So once you asked me what
size I wear, I know that means pop. I learned
that on a man for all the guys. Yeah, but
the jaws might be they might be no good no more.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
He might say, niggas might have to take them jawings off.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
I'm just said this pardicular situation. I don't think he's
really gonna get canceled like this because it's not like
he's doing this privately somewhere and they got a footage
of him, like he's obviously around a ton of people,
everyone's celebrating. I think he's trying to pack the kid
out the way sort of, and you know, the way
he did it I thought was in appropriate. But it's
not like he's meeting underage kids or you know, this
(53:47):
was a hidden video somewhere that you know it was
just him and a kid by themselves. Like, absolutely, he'd
be canceled if that was the case. But I think
this is just him. Listen, Jordan is when I talked
to that that's played with him. He has a level
of competition that's just insane, right, Like he will play
dice with his uh security guards, you know, for a dollar,
(54:11):
and expect them to pay that dollar at the end.
Speaker 5 (54:14):
You know what I'm saying about that money man.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
He remember he got caught up in the golf gambling situation,
like like he really like when he gambles or when
he competes. He's not like the rest of us. So
I think that this is his first like whatever race
car championship ever, So he's like, you know, suddenly he's
back into his Jordan.
Speaker 5 (54:34):
Mode, like he was just excited. He was excited, he's excited.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
He's just like I thought the kid was a teammate.
That's what it kind of looked like to me. It
didn't look like, oh, let me go feel up on
this little kids.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
But you know what I'm saying, to be doing that
to a teammate neither. But he.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
Knows, he knows he can't be slick about it. Everyone's
filming this, So I just think he just caught up
in the moment and he's just yeah, that's what I think.
But then again, listen to some other shit come out.
Then they're gonna go back to this video a gain.
Speaker 5 (55:06):
Definitely going back to that video. They definitely going back.
Speaker 3 (55:10):
Who's your top five basketball goats.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
In order? Just five period, in any order you want
to anywhere I want. Okay, Jordan's Shack, Kobe, Ai and Lebron.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
That's no order, that's just your top five top five. Yeah,
got you got you. That's a that's a good top five,
good top five.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (55:46):
I know my man like me and my man. Let
go right.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
People forget about Shack a lot like Shaq was just
level of dominance. He had you know who who could
push around Shock out there? Anyone.
Speaker 1 (55:59):
Shack was the truth. Even though Hakeem used to be
giving it to him. Yep, Kim used to be giving
it the Shack. So I to Kobe Lebron, enjoy how
you rate them?
Speaker 2 (56:12):
Yeah, let's go Jordan, Kobe Lebron.
Speaker 5 (56:17):
Okay, that's your opinion, Jordan Koby Lebron.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
Because I feel like when it comes down to it,
when when everything is on the line and that player
has to hold the whole team down, I think that's
the order that you see it in. When Jordan down,
you don't even pass the ball and nobody right, you know,
it's not a team sport anymore. It's over here.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
The best ball in the US Smith.
Speaker 2 (56:50):
No, but I can see an argument for Lebron being
the goat.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
I can see cause of course there you go, laugh
cause he's.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
All valid arguments.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
That's just flat opinion. It's just last opinion. Yeah, Bron
the goat.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
Yeah. I mean, listen, man, my man John Sally, he
just came by the house recently. That's my man, you know.
But that's my actual friend. But I'm not gonna say
he's better than Jordan. You know, people say that either, right,
But I think those three there's an argument you could
you could switch all those three around who you are.
And I feel like the younger generation because because you're
(57:24):
you're younger than me murdered. I feel like like they
just gravitate towards Lebron because they got to see it
in real time. There's something different. Like I got to
experience Thriller when it came out. I remember going to
the store and buying the cassette and hearing the songs,
when I remember seeing the beat It video, seeing the
(57:46):
Thriller video, you know, seeing the bad video, everything else
like that, Like like this is brand new music. You
can't really know. You can't go back to some old
ship and have the same experience of the person who
actually lived lived through it.
Speaker 5 (58:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (58:03):
This is why I'm not a huge Beatles fan, because
I'm just too young for that, right. But my older
cousins they love the Beatles, like, oh, like they're you know,
they're like Jesus. But you know, for the younger generation,
it's going to be Lebron. For the older generation is
going to be Jordan. For in the middle, it's going
to be Kobe. And people just gravitate because they're seeing
the games in real time. They're going to the games,
they're experiencing it, you know, they're meeting the players sometimes,
(58:26):
you know, like an eighteen year old doesn't really know
about Jordan, like that. They can wash the tapes, they
can wear the shoes, but it's not like actually experiencing
you know, the three peat and everything else like that,
and just the you know how how Jordan came in
and think about it. Before Jordan, it was a totally
different NBA.
Speaker 5 (58:47):
It was slow. It was slow.
Speaker 2 (58:50):
People were not yeah I mean, but I mean just
like just the hype of it, like who was really
buying magic Johnson's converses. Many people wore them, but it
wasn't like when the Jordan threes came out, it was like, yo, what.
Speaker 5 (59:03):
Is this, Like this is actually had converse?
Speaker 2 (59:06):
I don't yeah, yeah, yeah, what.
Speaker 5 (59:09):
Was that called? The weapons? Larry Magic, Larry Larry Bird
has the niggas too.
Speaker 2 (59:17):
Him and Larry Bird I think had conferences.
Speaker 5 (59:21):
The weapons. I never knew that.
Speaker 3 (59:23):
Oh I never even knew that. That's some basketball history
right there.
Speaker 2 (59:26):
But they were just the regular looking you know, like
the Jordan ones are kind of regular looking basket Choose.
Speaker 1 (59:32):
Your weapon, like lead the weapon, choose your weapon. That's crazy,
that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (59:40):
Look at that.
Speaker 2 (59:40):
Okay, yeah, you know Jordan came in and like, yo,
people weren't getting robbed for sneakers until the Jordans came out, Right,
you never hear people getting robed for their pumas, Like
the Jordan's not like the Jordans.
Speaker 5 (59:59):
You ain't lying.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
And the price point was crazy. It was like it
was so expensive at the time, and it's like, yo,
like these are investments on your.
Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Feet, hey fly, you know what makes Jordan's special to me?
Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
And like when you we just watched the All Star Game,
right who won the East of the West?
Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
Who won? Like the All Star Game, you did the
Young Boy they did. They did it different this year.
Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
They had the All Stars, the young come in and
they had the World League.
Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
The World League. So so who won?
Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
The Young Boys? The young boy? The young boys won?
Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
Right back in the days, didn't Michael Jordan do the
slam dunk contest?
Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
It was the world make the All Star Game crazy?
Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
If we had Lebron win Biyanna and give me somebody else,
you would think it was I think and wild say
we all had them, John Moran say, we had them
in a in a slam dunk contest. You know how
much views would go up for the All Star Game.
No more stars really want to do nothing when you've
seen Lebron is not doing a slam dunk contest, But
(01:00:58):
Jordan did so that to me, that's what makes it better.
When you, oh, Kobe did it too? Oh a right,
did you go like Kobe did it to y'all? But
imagine if them names was on a slam dunk contest.
Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Be popping right now, Ebie popping, shout out to my god,
mo power by indooring.
Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
The building for show. Indoor in the building. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
But now if you look at some of these high
school kids, I'd be seeing some some clips on the
Grammar some the kids that be doing some of these dunks,
they'd be getting busy. They need to bring them in
the league to at least entertain the people. Man, they
don't got to be in the league before a slam
Dunk contest. Go get the best dunkers in the world
and let them get busy. The young white boy, he
was killing it. I think he on Indiana now something.
He was killing it for a minute.
Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Though you call him a young white boy. What's his name?
Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
I forgot his name, young Indiana man. They know who
I'm talking about. He won the Slam Dunk contest I
think years mclum, mcclomb, yeah, Clo. He was killing and
he was killing the dunk cons. I don't know why
they have him in it this year.
Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I mean, isn't it sort of like but now you
got these dudes like Wemby who are just they don't
even have to do just walk over and just put
the ball in there.
Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
But just imagine his name being in the Slam Dunk
Contest with Lebron, John Moran and Edwards or something. Just
imagine that lineup that alone. To sell an old star
game stars need to start doing that. That's what we
want to see for the slam Dunk Contest in a
three point contest, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
They don't. I mean, I guess it's just I don't know.
I do know.
Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
No, No, I do know, I do know.
Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
You know. The real reason is why they would lose
to smaller names. Lebron would lose the slam Dunk contest.
Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
Right and Lebron too old now, But.
Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
I'm saying a lot of these bigger names would lose
to the smaller names. Yeah, and it was they would
look like the losers, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
I think that they think it would hurt the brain
something like that. They feel like it hurt the brand.
Things like that.
Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Sell less shoes and blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
You know, like Luca Lebron is an icon.
Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
You know he lost the slam Dunk Concert, Like, now,
fuck these shoes, Like I think. I think that's what
it is, the perception because it's it's a solo competition.
It's not like, Okay, well I lost the All Star Game,
but I was with a whole bunch of other players,
you know whatever. I played a one on one competition
and I lost to someone who's.
Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
There's no excuse when Jordan and Kobe do it. Like
like said, there's no excuse but they if Jordan, listen,
if Jordan and Kobe did the slam Dunk contest, there's
no excuse for no other star or icon not to
do it.
Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (01:03:40):
I'm just keeping it real in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Yeah, but I would love to see it, But I
just don't think it's gonna happen. You know, I think
SGA gonna do you know.
Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Everybody protecting their interest in that.
Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Their brands, they're interesting, every more money in it. Now.
What happens is that when you have these slam dunk
conscientt is a bunch of dudes that are like, you know,
role players and stuff like that. You know, like the
white boy you mentioned. You know, we're all talking about
him now, but he had nothing to lose. He don't
have his own shoe.
Speaker 5 (01:04:06):
You don't got no problem with black call him the
white boy? Who glad? Glad you said the white boy?
Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
I was letting y'all talk, all right, let you're not here, don't.
Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
You let blast say the white boy.
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