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March 27, 2026 21 mins

Sometimes someone is so hot, the voice is allll you need. PLUS: What to wear on a date.

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
I don't know what to wear on dates.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Now I could tell you what to wear on dates
with emphasis, with confidence, with expertise. I cannot tell you
exactly what to do on dates because I don't think
that I am great at that. Lean into your feminine side,
be super flirty.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I could do that for probably fifteen minutes of the date,
but the rest I'm going to just be myself and
probably scare off ninety eight percent of the men. I
could say, don't drink more than two drinks, but certainly
I've drunk four drinks on a date. I told a
guy last weekend, Hi, if you want to meet my
friend and I out, I'm about to overserve myself.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
That was my opening line.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
And he certainly came, and I didn't do anything I
was going to regret, and I didn't go anywhere I
didn't want to go, and I just hung out and
then went home. But I'm just letting you know that
that was my opening line. HI, about to overserve myself.
Come and get it. Like drink two drinks okay for
someone I generally don't because I don't want to be
in someone's house and I don't want them to be
in my house.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
But I can tell you this. In my life, I have.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Not many times, but I have probably broken every rule
that I've ever made in my life. But I can
tell you what to wear on a date and what
not to wear, because so many people in this dating community,
men and women, have no fucking idea what to wear.
They are a mess and a disaster and they're clueless.
And the hair and the everything. Okay, men, we don't

(01:29):
need you to wear logos.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
We don't need you to wear symbols.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
We don't need you to wear the alphabet on your
apparel accessories. We do not want it, we do not
need it. Let's just start with that. I thought that
was clear, but evidently it's not. We don't need you
to label the brands that you're wearing.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
We get it. Your car will suffice. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Men, you're not Mark Zuckerberg. You don't need to be
wearing a hoodie.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Women don't dress every time with every fucking piece of
skin hanging out like women wear the tits, the arms,
the legs, everything. You have a triangle over the vagina.
That's what you've left the imagination. This is all that
we have, but don't cover yourself up. Please don't wear
something that says I'm closed for business. Please do not
wear like a long sleeve collared shirt. Please do not

(02:16):
wear a blazer with a collared shirt under it. Please
do not wear a turtleneck. I love turtlenecks as much
as anyone. Don't wear a turtleneck to a date. I
even have a sheer turtleneck like you could wear it
with like a body suit under It'd be so sexy.
But nothing screams closed for business like something up to
your chin on your neck. Okay, it's giving. Diane Keaton
in the movie Something's Gotta Give. You want to show

(02:38):
a hint to some cleavage, lovely, wear a long sleeve
or a short sleeve.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
You don't need a tank and the cleavage.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
If you did the tank and the cleavage, the rest
has to be covered up. We must have long pants,
and we cannot have our stomach showing. You cannot if
you're gonna do, you cannot have your cleavage showing, your
arm showing, and your legs. Pick your spots, people, you
want to show your legs. I might even a last
some cleavage with some long sleeves, or that would be
the only caveat to the turtle, like it would be

(03:06):
a sleeveless turtle, like your arms would be showing and
your legs would be showing.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Just do not show everything at the same time. Next.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I broke this rule last night because I wore black
because it was chilly, and it's never cold in Florida,
and like, I wanted to wear something slightly wintry and
not so fucking florally, so I wore these black. Chloe
Kardashian and Morgan Stewart call them slacks, and I want
to slap the two of them because I don't like that.
I just use that word and it turns me up.
And I don't know why people have a problem with

(03:34):
the word moist, because the word slacks could put.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Me in an institution.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I'd say ointment and moist all day before I'd say slacks,
call a therapist. But I wore slacks last night. But
I did have a strapless like shirt that showed my arms,
but the rest was like black and sort of covered up,
and it was sex the only because you knew that

(04:00):
I had a decol of tae, but and you knew
that I had boobs and they weren't really popping up,
but like that was unusual for me, And even wearing
pants is a little like for me, it's a little hard,
and black is a little hard because I'm hard. So
I need to be wearing lighter, softer tones and fabrics
to counterbalance my aggressiveness, hostility, anger and being an entrepreneur

(04:27):
that has more money than ninety eight point nine percent
of the men that I am going to go out with.
So I should lean in with my femininity. Some ruffles,
some slip dress, and some dough I dumb, dumbness, but
lo and behold, I fuck up a lot. Now, be
flirty with your outfit, like I said, like a little

(04:49):
floral like, yes, show something like little skin wear the perfume,
like just like do the feminine thing, like, try to
do the feminine thing. The feminine floral, girly prince charming
is gonna rescue you damsel in distress, just like, do
it a little bit, just do it. There's such dopes
they think any dress that you have that is a

(05:09):
little bit figure flattering is like the greatest thing that
you ever did. They don't know anything. They wouldn't like
any of the dresses on the Oscar's carpet at the mechala.
That is all a performance. They don't care about any
of that shit. They care about a little tight, a
little cleavage, what's going on under the hood.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
That's what you wear on a date. What you say
on a date is your own business, because you do
not ask me. Chelsea Handler did a presumably stoned post
saying that she's starting a dating service, even saying dating
service is really funny. She was like, any men DM me,
gay or straight men between the ages of forty and seventy,
DM me, Like, I have someone for you. It sounds insane,

(05:51):
Like what is she calling up people in her It's
insane unless she's really starting a dating membership community.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
And what she said is true.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
She says people always say there are no men, and
she's correct, there are tons.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Of great men.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
So she's probably going into her own dumpster pile, like
I've got somebody for you, geyer straight, I'm dying. I
have a dating community. I don't know if she does,
but I'm here for it.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
She's correct, there are so many great men, but there
are so many great women. There are so many great people.
And here's the thing. Alignment alignment alignment. You could think
someone's a piece of shit because of the way they
interact with you, because they shouldn't have been going out
with you in the first place, and vice versa. Or
you could treat someone poorly, poorly, uncharacteristic of you, unbefitting

(06:34):
of your ethics, code and integrity, but because they weren't
aligned with you, and it's going to either trigger you
if you you don't respect them something and you're not
going to be your best. So the lack of alignment
will affect how you think of someone. So there's a
guy that I have right off the top of my
head that does not have a good reputation. Okay, he's

(06:55):
not a bad guy. He just chooses people that aren't
right for him and then acts badly. And yes, he
could kind of act badly with someone good for him,
but he's not a bad guy. He just isn't in
the right puzzle. It's very difficult. That's why you find players.
That's why George Clooney, Warren Batty. There are plenty of
women that thought Warren Batty and George Clooney were total

(07:17):
pieces of shit, But in Nette Benning and Amal Clooney
are not those women because those are the women that
were properly aligned with them, which is why they think
they're great men. I'm sure there are many women that

(07:42):
would say that the Jonas kid is a piece of
ship of Priunka thinks he's a king. Because it's about
who you're connected with. There are bad guys, but there
are so many great people. And if they're not connected
with the right people, then they're not aligned and they're
not set up for sex and success. That's what I
have to say about that is critical. Alignment is critical,

(08:03):
and alignment could come in different packages. So I met
one person that is so aligned with me because they
are me. It is me and a man. Now, I
don't know if that's good. Okay, imagine it. This person
thinks highly of themselves, is funny, is entertaining, is alive,
is confident. It says what's on their mind is live
and direct, is entrepreneurial. Other people that are aligned well

(08:26):
with me, it may be the opposite side the yin
and yang. It's the heads and tails. It's that they
are extremely into organization and order and lack of clutter
and simplicity. So we're aligned in the way that we
would live together. But their personality is super under the radar,
super not in your face. They're very conservative across the board.

(08:46):
I never go out with and am never attracted to,
never even connect with, never having any interaction with anyone
who has any version of a public profile.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Zero. It's the craziest thing.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Like I don't believe that there are people that have
public profiles, because it's shocking how many men do.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
But they don't even come on my radar.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
So like if you're looking at famous people, like you're
looking at Kim Kardashian with a new race car driver,
like he has a public profile. She was with Pete
Davidson before she was with Kanye, Like these people have
public profiles. She's a public person. I don't know how
you could have a connection with someone who else has
a public profile.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Take Paris Hilton.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Her husband probably has Instagram because he helps her, But
like I don't think it's his identity or personality, Nicki Hilton,
James Rothschild, even right Kyle was with Mauricio, he had
a public profile as a result of her giving him one.
But still like I don't get it. I don't like it.
It's a double standard, Like I do this for work.

(09:46):
I don't want someone who's doing this a for work.
I'm not dating an influencer or someone who's gonna constantly post,
because what a turnoff, What a turnoff, and what a
double standard, what a hypocrite. I did not necessarily asked
for this particular life. I just ended up in this
particular like influencer life. Like this is so extreme for
me because I don't like stuff and I don't like clutter.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
And I don't really and I'm really private.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
I'm really really private, like really private, and it's shocking
because I don't seem private at all, but I really am.
There's so much I don't tell people, and it's kind
of like a show. Ellen DeGeneres was a very private
person and her public and her personal lives were very different.
And it didn't mean that it was fraudulent. It meant
that she went out and she had to perform like

(10:33):
a fucking circus clown every day for decades. I don't
know how long. It was, right over a decade, certainly,
and her life was different. She'd walk in the back
of a restaurant for privacy, like she was in a committed,
calm relationship, like she had her celeb friends and her
beautiful homes, and she like had an insular aspect to her.
It would be insustainable for her to do both and

(10:55):
even her social media as someone else was mostly doing
so she didn't have to be that exposed.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
She does some, but like you want to have a
private life.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I'm sure it's hurt me a lot in dating that
people think, like, my whole life is going to be
on Instagram or TikTok and it's not. It's not, and
they definitely won't and I'm sure, like it's Chelsea Handler
goes through this. She's opining and talking and she's dating
guys like sort of in secret on the DL because
she doesn't want someone in the forefront. She's done it.
She did it with fifty cent and Joe Coy is

(11:26):
that his name?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Like it's just not interesting, it's not good. There should
be one peacock. So alignment comes in many different ways.
Please don't gaslight yourself with dates. Do not gaslight yourself
with dates or people that really like you or love you,
or pursue you, or are obsessed with you, or are

(11:47):
good on paper, or are rich, or spoil you with gifts,
or treat you like a queen, or tell you how
amazing you are, or say everything you want to hear,
or hold back and don't push and just doore you
and worship you and are amazing and every other woman
would die to be with them. If you are not

(12:09):
one of those women, it's not going to happen. If
you've noodled it, molded it, twisted it, turned it, reubix
cubed it. If you need a life partner to support you,
and you're on Bridgerton, then I guess you can noodle
it and do all of that. But short of that,
like if you need a man to like, you know,

(12:31):
treat you nicely and take care of your family, because
you don't have a dowry, Like I can't speak to
that because I have a dowry, which is why I
have a dowry, so I don't have to do that,
Which is why when people get up and say, like
stay at home moms, like is the only way to
do it, I get it.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
It's the hardest job. It's not the only way to
do it.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Because you can be a stay at home mom, you
are taking a risk and not working and not having
a skill set and not honing that skill set, because
one day you may have to be with someone you
don't want to be with. You may have to stay
with someone you don't want to stay with. You may
have to do something you don't want to do. You
may have to live in a house you don't want
to live in because you have no financial freedom and resources.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
So park that.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Barring that that you are in Bridgerton and you need
a man to provide you with a nice lifestyle, treat
you nicely, and you're in the eighteen hundreds. Don't go
out with people that you're not excited about. Don't go
out again with someone that you aren't excited about. Like, yes,
there are rare exceptions you didn't like someone at first,
et cetera. But like, if you've beaten this fucking drum,

(13:35):
you know you're not interested in them. They're twenty years
older than you. You don't like something about them.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
You are turned off.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
You got the ick someone's in love with you, You're not
in love with them.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
It's not going to change. Stop.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
I've done this so many times. I try to do this.
I want to do this now. A man on an
app said, how is your dating going? And I said,
it's going well because I'm not doing it that much,
because it's a quality versus quantity model, because I only
go out when I'm leaping out the door to wear

(14:07):
my best outfit, look amazing, smell grate, get excited, and
I'm leaping out the door. I'm motivated, or I want
to go the prospect is good, or I'm bored and
I need to check a box. And this person seemed
nice enough, and they seem like they could be a friend,
or I could put them in the core if they're
not for me, and like I'm in the mood to

(14:28):
go somewhere, I want to get the fuck out of
my house, put some makeup on it, go somewhere, and
I'm in the mood to go. That's another decent reason.
But if you're not motivated, excited and leaping out the
door to go, don't go. And if you're not motivated
and leaping to be with this person, I don't mean
after three years when you can't stand them and the

(14:49):
side of their face and breath makes you want to vomit.
I mean in the beginning, when you are supposed to
be excited, if someone's madly in love with you and

(15:13):
you are trying to convince yourself. But every time you do,
and every time you go and every time you talk
to him, you don't vibe it.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's not vibing, it's not happening. Don't do it. The
opposite of Nike. Do not do it.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Just do not do it. It's the opposite of the
Nike model.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Also, chat GBT is an amazing dating therapist. Ask it
the questions and lead the witness tell the chat GBT.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
I went out with a person three times. We made out.
We talked about this.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
He said this, he sent this, he messaged this, he
texted me this, he emailed me this, he carried pigeon
me this. Whatever. Then we went out once and we
did this. We slept together. The second time we went out,
we went out for an amazing dinner. We spent twelve hours,
always together. Whatever. Then he did this.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
It will tell you the truth.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Like I have thought that someone is doing amazing things
and saying amazing things and making an effort, and CHAT
will tell me, yeah, that's lovely. That is lovely, but
it's low lift. It's not big effort. It doesn't scream
I'm dying to see you. Somebody didn't put a date
on the board, so that says everything. Oh, they're involved

(16:30):
in a big work deal. A big work deal is
going on. Okay, they don't have telephones and fucking bedrock
at your big private equity firm like, or a VC
firm or a hedge fund firm or real.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Estate firm like. Yes they do.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
So you can do two things at once. I run
a massive empire. I'm still able to go upstairs and
purge my closet, obsess over what I'm going to cook
for dinner, be a good mom, scroll, understand what's going
on with other people's lives, make a date, go on
a date, be, do it all, mention it all. Guess
what if someone is not putting another date on the board.

(17:04):
To see you in not general terms, not like hey,
yeah it was an amazing time, hope to see you
again when in your fucking dreams at the farmer's market. No,
people need to be intentional and chat will tell you.
And it doesn't even you have to burn the house down,
because you could still capture the bird if.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
You want it.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
It means that you have to play it differently, so
you'd be like, great, no problem, if that's what you're
interested in. When you're free, reach out like there are
ways to talk to chat and figure it out. But
don't be a doormat. Also, you go out with someone
once on a date twice, they're a stranger.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Please don't forget that.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I know you're picking out China wedding patterns and bridesmaid's
dresses and your veil and who you're going to pick
as your maid of honor and where the venue is
and where your vacation is going to be in what
size ring you want and is it cushion and is
it oval and is it marquee?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
And is it emerald? And is it step cut?

Speaker 2 (18:02):
And is it a trapezoid or is it lab grown
or is it de flawless. I know they're a fucking stranger,
So put your diaper on and stop shitting your pants
cause you don't know this person. So have no expectations,
be realistic and get back on the board or join
the core. Join the core. That's always an option. That

(18:25):
is always an option. Can we please discuss Kerry Washington?
Oh my god, she was on call her daddy. I
don't know when this was. It could have been ten
years old, It could have been ten seconds old. She
had long, gorgeous like her hair. I've never seen her
hair like a long, gorgeous, wavy, beautiful hair and a
jean outfit. Sitting crisscross Apple Sauce and Alex Cooper asked

(18:50):
her what the most sexy scene that she and Tony
Goldwin ever had? And I think she might have said
to call him, But either way, Carrie called his voice.
He was telling her what he thinks their sexiest scene was.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Now, mind you. She was telling us too. It didn't matter.
I couldn't hear anything she was saying. It didn't matter.
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Her voice wasn't his voice. When I tell you, I
wanted to have sex with my telephone. I wanted to
go to Tony's house tell him to leave his wife. Sorry, wife,
I am not a homewrecker at all. Desperate times lead
to desperate measures. Okay, when I saw John Hamm and
saw his wife, this is unfortunate for you because you're

(19:34):
coming home with me. Like some people require desperate, unethical steps.
Tony Goldwyn's voice on call her Daddy, I had sex
with him. I feel like we've had a sexual encounter together.
I felt wrong listening like I felt like I was
in porn the way he told I wouldn't even botch it.

(19:58):
I wouldn't even all he was doing he was with
his it's on a trip to DC. Sorry to the family,
it's disrespectful at best, but all he was doing, he
was on a trip to d C with his kids,
and he just is like this scene and I'm like,
are you out of your fucking mind?

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Stop? Just stop it right now? What happened?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Like, let's just do people's most sexiest voices alive?

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Can like ihearder, someone.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Just do the most sexiest voices alive because Tony Goldwyn
needs to be up there. George Clooney might be up
there too. I don't know who's the other person I
just said. I wanted to have said, John Hamm, there's
a correlation, Ryan Gosling, Maybe there's a correlation. Is there
a correlation to hotness and voice? Someone weigh in? Jesus
Christ Denzel, I mean, I can't do this right now.

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