December 5, 2025 • 14 mins
Bethenny's thinking behind her new dating concept.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
I have a dating concept I'm launching called the Core.
I have already started it in beta in proof of concept.
It has been a social experiment. It has done extraordinarily
well and proven a theory that I had about dating
and how to do it, and proving what I believe
to be A quarter of the community that I'm working
with beliefs to be the most criminal aspect of dating,
(00:33):
which is matchmaking, the most frustrating of dating, which is apps.
And basically matchmakers tell women that men want younger models,
tell men that all women want money, and they take
women's money because women are the ones that are more desperate,
and then they use the very small group of men
(00:53):
to push them around to the same women who are
then seeing the same exact men on apps.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
That's making them all frustrating.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
But they have no return policy, and they've spent between
thirty and hundreds of thousands of dollars and they're actually
I rate now for some reason because see something say something.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Patti Stanger, well, I've met her and I've had her
set me up years ago with one man and it
was a good setup. I have worked with many matchmakers
because she's probably one of the most famous or the
most famous. I do not want to clump her in
with this, not because I am positive that people haven't
had this experience with this. She's in a service business
and I cannot be easy, nor will what I'm embarking on,
(01:34):
but because I had one good date with her, which
is more than I've ever had from any other matchmaker.
But I will exclude Patti Stanger for argument's sake, because
I haven't worked with her. I haven't heard this specifically
about her. And I went on one date and I'm
a very literal person, like I don't like to I
like to clarify the most minute of details. So minute
(01:56):
detail is years ago she set me up with someone
and it was a decent date, and I hadn't paid
her and I was broke and couldn't have And I'm
not clumping her in here. And she happens to be
the most famous matchmaker, so she also could take the
biggest hit from what's about to go down and the
articles that are about to be written about that space.
So I would like to formally exclude her from this
(02:16):
conversation for the time being, unless somebody knows something different.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
But I do not.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
There is something I want to discuss about dating, which
can apply to fitness. So you've heard about people that
will work out together, or do hikes together, or be
emotional support for each other when they're trying to either
lose weight or get in shape or stick to something. Well,
it works in dating too, And you could say that
(02:45):
a lot of women do that. Are ready because women
talk to each other. But think about who you're talking to,
think about the advice they're giving, think about their success rate,
think about where they are in the process. And I
say this because I have had many girlfriends that will
just agree with everything I say and just say, ah,
why do you do that? Oh my god, that's gross.
I could never and you get in your head. But I,
(03:06):
during this dating concept, have a woman who's working on
it with me, and she too has been single, and
she's at a different era and chapter and because of me,
she says, I've inspired her to approach dating in a
different manner, meaning be open.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
We always are.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
What's the result based people women sit down, the guy
has ugly shoes, or he has bad breath or something that, yes,
would not be great, but that you throw the person out.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
What if someone bore.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Ugly shoes or had style that you didn't like, but
they were a wonderful person. Sometimes someone's super successful or
super creative is quirky in other ways, like Steve Jobs
barely bathed, but he was a genius. You know, Mark
Zuckerberg sits in a hoodie and jeans and he's a genius.
So like, it depends on what you want. Little things
(03:57):
don't have to mean everything. The day coach said to
me that this person is interviewing for the most important
position in the world, and you are as well. When
you date someone, so be open, like there could be
somebody who's great but may not know. Someone may not
know what to wear, what to do. You don't want
someone perfect, you think you want someone to come in
looking like some supermodel.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Be open is all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
If someone's super nice to you and smart, but maybe
they give you the ick a little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
You can't be repulsed by someone.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
But I've gone out with someone during the day and
seen them for a couple of hours and judged what
they did, said warn and then hours later have seen
them dressed differently and thought of them differently, or the
way that they handle a crisis or the way they
handle your a holiday, or if you don't feel well
or anything like, just be more open. Okay, I'm just
(04:46):
saying be more open because it's also helpful, Like you
could meet someone amazing that's a nice person that is
not for you, and you could learn something through the process.
You could learn something about yourself, about men, you could
help someone else. You could refer them to someone one else,
introduce him to someone else.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Like be open.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I'm just saying, be positive, be open. Don't go if
you can't be positive and open. Like I just have
to say, I'm learning a lot about myself through this process,
and for the first time in my entire life, I'm
not results oriented. I don't shut somebody down just because
they did something wrong like I have in the past,
or because they don't see the world the way I do,
(05:22):
or because I can't picture myself with them.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
You just don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
It's such an important decision. You can't make it in
a snapshot that doesn't make any sense. You can't make
it right away. You have to be open and let
it breathe. You ever have a sweater that you get
rid of and like it's on someone else and it
looks so good, and you're like, wait, I kind of
want that back. That could be a man. I had
an ex whose house was disgusting when I met him.
(05:45):
When I tell you disgusting, there were things growing on
old vegetables in a cabinet. Not an exaggeration, Literally it
was disgusting. The bathroom was discussing, everything was discussing. He
is the most organized person you've ever met in your life.
Now you're welcome. His next girlfriend can send me a
fucking thank you note. So, don't be so judgmental if
(06:08):
you think you could possibly like something, if there's something
you did like about them, if you almost like them,
if you only didn't like something they were wearing, or
something that would normally be ridiculous, if you heard someone
else say it, Can you go out three times with them?
Like there's something to be said for. One is a drink,
One is a beach walk. One is a coffee date,
One is a dinner. One is just sit in a
(06:28):
lounge and have a drink at a hotel, but like
not a bar, but like just where you could talk
to a person.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You really don't.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
See someone unless you see them in multiple habitats.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Just do that for me please do it for yourself.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Men don't know what to wear, what to buy, how
to put it together. I always i'm talking to women.
I did not realize the gift that I have for men. Okay,
I had an ex boyfriend. I changed his entire wardrobe
and his life by doing it because he really had
no idea and all his clothes were old and he
(07:14):
didn't know how to put it together. And I didn't
even know that I had the skill set because I
was able to just like bang into a store and
immediately say, that'll look good on you, that'll look good,
and you get that. Put that with that, put that
with that. That's for a day, that's for the bathing suit.
That's so you were over the bathing suit. That's the shoe.
And I didn't really realize that there's a way of
thinking about it. And I'm not saying I have the
best style in the world, but I have the best
(07:34):
ger animals putting together style. So I did that once,
and I did it with another ex fiance, where like
I was largely in charge of what he bought and wore.
But recently there's someone that I met well, I had
known them for years. There's someone that I reconnected with
that I had known for years that was dressing in
a very juvenile manner, and I thought it was a style.
(07:56):
I thought it was his style. Like my daughter even caught.
She's like, it's very hipster, like it's very like backpack
e Van's ash hipster and that's kind of like juvenile,
and I thought it is. But I thought it was
because it was an la person and his style was
just like sort of la Venice, Hollywood Hills, like super casual,
and in dating, women judge a man a lot by
(08:17):
what they're wearing, like it's a turn up. It could
give you the ick. I know a woman dating a man.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
She sent me a picture.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
She goes, I don't like what he's wearing, and everybody says,
but you can change it. But you don't really realize that.
You're thinking that that person wearing that has something to
do with them, like that that's like indicative of their
style or they're anything, and it's not.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
It's literally not. They literally don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So this guy had this hipster vibe and I thought
he was like hipsterish or juvenile or like stuck in
a fucking time capsule. I didn't realize that he had
not purchased intentionally. He had not purchased clothes intentionally for
twenty nine years. That doesn't mean that he wasn't at
a store and didn't see something and bought it, saw
(09:01):
something else, or decided he thought he knew what his
style was.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
His style was.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Vintage, and then everything he's buying along the way is
just sort of like connected to that vibe. He definitely
had no style. He had not intentionally purchased clothing for
twenty nine years. Because this is a person with money
of means goodbuye whatever they want by gorgeous presents for
a woman, generous. All these things had no idea. So
one day I said, like, you're a little hipster for me.
(09:25):
I was like, I'm a little more attracted to something
more polished, blah blah blah. So he was trying to
like each time he went out, like dress more polished.
I'm like, you have to be you. You can't be
who I like. You have to be you. Whatever you
want to wear, you have to do. That's who like
everybody is. So then I realized that he just didn't
have a style. It was almost like walking through the
(09:48):
refrigerator and just taking a bite of everything, Like there
was no strategy to it. It wasn't a meal, it
wasn't a choice, it wasn't a snack of it. So
I was like, oh my god. Okay, So he's like,
could you just send me some lin send me some
things that you like. So I was going to sound
like a couple of shirts. It turned into a several hour.
Every article of clothing this person got rid of their
(10:11):
entire closet, every article of clothing, which by the way,
needed to be done.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You cannot imagine.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Okay, and now has like mad amazing style because everything
he has is great because most of it is neutrals
that go with each other.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
But wait, there's more.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Because even within the neutrals, even within the navies and
the grays and the browns and the beige and the
whites and the blacks and like not any major collar.
Even within that, he's not knowing what to wear with
anything else, like not even knowing does this get tucked in?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Does this have a belt? Does this? I was like what?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
So then I went deeper and I took pile by pile,
I literally took Okay, these genes could go with this shirt,
which also could go with those shorts, this belt goes
with both. These shoes are going to stand here right
in between these two looks because it would go with both.
Next pile and I was like, this could go with
that that she goes to there and I literally did piles,
and I was like, take a picture of these piles
(11:04):
because you'll train yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
You're training the person to know how to do it.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
And then I was like, if you're going on a vacation,
get the packing cubes because you'll pack it like this.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You won't make a mistake, you'll know exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
And then it was like, wait, but what if you're chilly,
because you could fuck up a whole outfit with one piece.
So it was like, oh, I'll just wear that hoodie.
I'm like, no, this is like a nice outphit with
the Kashmere T shirt. You're not like putting a fucking
gap hoodie on top of that. So then it was
like Okay, now I'll fill in the blanks. And then
I went online again found links for the cardigans and
I was like, no, these are like cool men, like
you could wear this as a man and not be
like a grandfather. I am going to post every single
(11:38):
fucking piece that I bought because my best friend, who's
smart and wealthy and educated, she was like, wait, how
did you pick it out? I go, what do you mean?
How do you not pick it out? She goes, I
have to do for my sons. He goes, so fucking
do it. She's like, I'm like, how do you not know?
And she's like, I just don't know. I'm like, wow,
I think it's a skill set that I didn't even
realize was a skill because it wasn't just the picking up.
(12:00):
It was the style of picking out the taste not
of one thing, but of a whole wardrobe that speaks
to each other. Everything has to speak to everything else.
Every T shirt has to speak to any of the sweatpants,
to the sneakers, so it all goes upscale sneakers, knock
around sneakers. And you should really have only good. You
should love everything you have. Now, I'm not saying you
can afford to throw everything out, but piece by piece
(12:21):
it can be really inexpensive. And because it was Black
Friday and Cyber Monday, there's never been a better time
to decide to do something like this. I literally started
telling him the items the Thursday before Black Friday, so
he was able to get everything for a steal.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
A steal.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I've said before that relationships are a puzzle. It's really wild.
You could be set up with someone who everything that
they are is everything you want, and then you're with
them and they could like slowly kiss you or talk
in a low voice, or snore or keep you up
at night, or eat strange or be weird. When you're
(13:00):
with them, they don't know where the fuck they're going,
or like like a thousand things, and you have to
pick what things make up your puzzle. You can't pick
them off. It's not gonna be perfect. It's a New
York City apartment. So how do you decide what is important?
Is if someone gives you the itck and the way
they kiss, can you teach them? If someone eats strange
or addresses terribly, can you fix that?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Like?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
What is your puzzle? How are you going to piece
your puzzle together so you're not unrealistic and you're getting
what you need? What if someone has five kids? You
want kids, but they have five? What if someone has
zero kids? You think that's a red flag when it's
actually not. Men who do not have children or who
have not been married by a certain age are not
(13:43):
necessarily a red flag. A man who has not gotten
married by a certain age, who has done it solely
because they don't want to do it just to check
the box and don't want a divorce under their belt
just to make society or their family happy, is not
a red flag. And a man who has not had
kids because they wanted to only have kids if they
(14:03):
found their person, and they happen to have not found
their person is also not a red flag.
I have a dating concept I'm launching called the Core.
I have already started it in beta in proof of concept.
It has been a social experiment. It has done extraordinarily
well and proven a theory that I had about dating
and how to do it, and proving what I believe
to be A quarter of the community that I'm working
with beliefs to be the most criminal aspect of dating,
(00:33):
which is matchmaking, the most frustrating of dating, which is apps.
And basically matchmakers tell women that men want younger models,
tell men that all women want money, and they take
women's money because women are the ones that are more desperate,
and then they use the very small group of men
(00:53):
to push them around to the same women who are
then seeing the same exact men on apps.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
That's making them all frustrating.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
But they have no return policy, and they've spent between
thirty and hundreds of thousands of dollars and they're actually
I rate now for some reason because see something say something.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Patti Stanger, well, I've met her and I've had her
set me up years ago with one man and it
was a good setup. I have worked with many matchmakers
because she's probably one of the most famous or the
most famous. I do not want to clump her in
with this, not because I am positive that people haven't
had this experience with this. She's in a service business
and I cannot be easy, nor will what I'm embarking on,
(01:34):
but because I had one good date with her, which
is more than I've ever had from any other matchmaker.
But I will exclude Patti Stanger for argument's sake, because
I haven't worked with her. I haven't heard this specifically
about her. And I went on one date and I'm
a very literal person, like I don't like to I
like to clarify the most minute of details. So minute
(01:56):
detail is years ago she set me up with someone
and it was a decent date, and I hadn't paid
her and I was broke and couldn't have And I'm
not clumping her in here. And she happens to be
the most famous matchmaker, so she also could take the
biggest hit from what's about to go down and the
articles that are about to be written about that space.
So I would like to formally exclude her from this
(02:16):
conversation for the time being, unless somebody knows something different.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
But I do not.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
There is something I want to discuss about dating, which
can apply to fitness. So you've heard about people that
will work out together, or do hikes together, or be
emotional support for each other when they're trying to either
lose weight or get in shape or stick to something. Well,
it works in dating too, And you could say that
(02:45):
a lot of women do that. Are ready because women
talk to each other. But think about who you're talking to,
think about the advice they're giving, think about their success rate,
think about where they are in the process. And I
say this because I have had many girlfriends that will
just agree with everything I say and just say, ah,
why do you do that? Oh my god, that's gross.
I could never and you get in your head. But I,
(03:06):
during this dating concept, have a woman who's working on
it with me, and she too has been single, and
she's at a different era and chapter and because of me,
she says, I've inspired her to approach dating in a
different manner, meaning be open.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
We always are.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
What's the result based people women sit down, the guy
has ugly shoes, or he has bad breath or something that, yes,
would not be great, but that you throw the person out.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
What if someone bore.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Ugly shoes or had style that you didn't like, but
they were a wonderful person. Sometimes someone's super successful or
super creative is quirky in other ways, like Steve Jobs
barely bathed, but he was a genius. You know, Mark
Zuckerberg sits in a hoodie and jeans and he's a genius.
So like, it depends on what you want. Little things
(03:57):
don't have to mean everything. The day coach said to
me that this person is interviewing for the most important
position in the world, and you are as well. When
you date someone, so be open, like there could be
somebody who's great but may not know. Someone may not
know what to wear, what to do. You don't want
someone perfect, you think you want someone to come in
looking like some supermodel.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Be open is all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
If someone's super nice to you and smart, but maybe
they give you the ick a little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
You can't be repulsed by someone.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
But I've gone out with someone during the day and
seen them for a couple of hours and judged what
they did, said warn and then hours later have seen
them dressed differently and thought of them differently, or the
way that they handle a crisis or the way they
handle your a holiday, or if you don't feel well
or anything like, just be more open. Okay, I'm just
(04:46):
saying be more open because it's also helpful, Like you
could meet someone amazing that's a nice person that is
not for you, and you could learn something through the process.
You could learn something about yourself, about men, you could
help someone else. You could refer them to someone one else,
introduce him to someone else.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Like be open.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I'm just saying, be positive, be open. Don't go if
you can't be positive and open. Like I just have
to say, I'm learning a lot about myself through this process,
and for the first time in my entire life, I'm
not results oriented. I don't shut somebody down just because
they did something wrong like I have in the past,
or because they don't see the world the way I do,
(05:22):
or because I can't picture myself with them.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
You just don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
It's such an important decision. You can't make it in
a snapshot that doesn't make any sense. You can't make
it right away. You have to be open and let
it breathe. You ever have a sweater that you get
rid of and like it's on someone else and it
looks so good, and you're like, wait, I kind of
want that back. That could be a man. I had
an ex whose house was disgusting when I met him.
(05:45):
When I tell you disgusting, there were things growing on
old vegetables in a cabinet. Not an exaggeration, Literally it
was disgusting. The bathroom was discussing, everything was discussing. He
is the most organized person you've ever met in your life.
Now you're welcome. His next girlfriend can send me a
fucking thank you note. So, don't be so judgmental if
(06:08):
you think you could possibly like something, if there's something
you did like about them, if you almost like them,
if you only didn't like something they were wearing, or
something that would normally be ridiculous, if you heard someone
else say it, Can you go out three times with them?
Like there's something to be said for. One is a drink,
One is a beach walk. One is a coffee date,
One is a dinner. One is just sit in a
(06:28):
lounge and have a drink at a hotel, but like
not a bar, but like just where you could talk
to a person.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You really don't.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
See someone unless you see them in multiple habitats.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Just do that for me please do it for yourself.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Men don't know what to wear, what to buy, how
to put it together. I always i'm talking to women.
I did not realize the gift that I have for men. Okay,
I had an ex boyfriend. I changed his entire wardrobe
and his life by doing it because he really had
no idea and all his clothes were old and he
(07:14):
didn't know how to put it together. And I didn't
even know that I had the skill set because I
was able to just like bang into a store and
immediately say, that'll look good on you, that'll look good,
and you get that. Put that with that, put that
with that. That's for a day, that's for the bathing suit.
That's so you were over the bathing suit. That's the shoe.
And I didn't really realize that there's a way of
thinking about it. And I'm not saying I have the
best style in the world, but I have the best
(07:34):
ger animals putting together style. So I did that once,
and I did it with another ex fiance, where like
I was largely in charge of what he bought and wore.
But recently there's someone that I met well, I had
known them for years. There's someone that I reconnected with
that I had known for years that was dressing in
a very juvenile manner, and I thought it was a style.
(07:56):
I thought it was his style. Like my daughter even caught.
She's like, it's very hipster, like it's very like backpack
e Van's ash hipster and that's kind of like juvenile,
and I thought it is. But I thought it was
because it was an la person and his style was
just like sort of la Venice, Hollywood Hills, like super casual,
and in dating, women judge a man a lot by
(08:17):
what they're wearing, like it's a turn up. It could
give you the ick. I know a woman dating a man.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
She sent me a picture.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
She goes, I don't like what he's wearing, and everybody says,
but you can change it. But you don't really realize that.
You're thinking that that person wearing that has something to
do with them, like that that's like indicative of their
style or they're anything, and it's not.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
It's literally not. They literally don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So this guy had this hipster vibe and I thought
he was like hipsterish or juvenile or like stuck in
a fucking time capsule. I didn't realize that he had
not purchased intentionally. He had not purchased clothes intentionally for
twenty nine years. That doesn't mean that he wasn't at
a store and didn't see something and bought it, saw
(09:01):
something else, or decided he thought he knew what his
style was.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
His style was.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Vintage, and then everything he's buying along the way is
just sort of like connected to that vibe. He definitely
had no style. He had not intentionally purchased clothing for
twenty nine years. Because this is a person with money
of means goodbuye whatever they want by gorgeous presents for
a woman, generous. All these things had no idea. So
one day I said, like, you're a little hipster for me.
(09:25):
I was like, I'm a little more attracted to something
more polished, blah blah blah. So he was trying to
like each time he went out, like dress more polished.
I'm like, you have to be you. You can't be
who I like. You have to be you. Whatever you
want to wear, you have to do. That's who like
everybody is. So then I realized that he just didn't
have a style. It was almost like walking through the
(09:48):
refrigerator and just taking a bite of everything, Like there
was no strategy to it. It wasn't a meal, it
wasn't a choice, it wasn't a snack of it. So
I was like, oh my god. Okay, So he's like,
could you just send me some lin send me some
things that you like. So I was going to sound
like a couple of shirts. It turned into a several hour.
Every article of clothing this person got rid of their
(10:11):
entire closet, every article of clothing, which by the way,
needed to be done.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You cannot imagine.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Okay, and now has like mad amazing style because everything
he has is great because most of it is neutrals
that go with each other.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
But wait, there's more.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Because even within the neutrals, even within the navies and
the grays and the browns and the beige and the
whites and the blacks and like not any major collar.
Even within that, he's not knowing what to wear with
anything else, like not even knowing does this get tucked in?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Does this have a belt? Does this? I was like what?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
So then I went deeper and I took pile by pile,
I literally took Okay, these genes could go with this shirt,
which also could go with those shorts, this belt goes
with both. These shoes are going to stand here right
in between these two looks because it would go with both.
Next pile and I was like, this could go with
that that she goes to there and I literally did piles,
and I was like, take a picture of these piles
(11:04):
because you'll train yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
You're training the person to know how to do it.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
And then I was like, if you're going on a vacation,
get the packing cubes because you'll pack it like this.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You won't make a mistake, you'll know exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
And then it was like, wait, but what if you're chilly,
because you could fuck up a whole outfit with one piece.
So it was like, oh, I'll just wear that hoodie.
I'm like, no, this is like a nice outphit with
the Kashmere T shirt. You're not like putting a fucking
gap hoodie on top of that. So then it was
like Okay, now I'll fill in the blanks. And then
I went online again found links for the cardigans and
I was like, no, these are like cool men, like
you could wear this as a man and not be
like a grandfather. I am going to post every single
(11:38):
fucking piece that I bought because my best friend, who's
smart and wealthy and educated, she was like, wait, how
did you pick it out? I go, what do you mean?
How do you not pick it out? She goes, I
have to do for my sons. He goes, so fucking
do it. She's like, I'm like, how do you not know?
And she's like, I just don't know. I'm like, wow,
I think it's a skill set that I didn't even
realize was a skill because it wasn't just the picking up.
(12:00):
It was the style of picking out the taste not
of one thing, but of a whole wardrobe that speaks
to each other. Everything has to speak to everything else.
Every T shirt has to speak to any of the sweatpants,
to the sneakers, so it all goes upscale sneakers, knock
around sneakers. And you should really have only good. You
should love everything you have. Now, I'm not saying you
can afford to throw everything out, but piece by piece
(12:21):
it can be really inexpensive. And because it was Black
Friday and Cyber Monday, there's never been a better time
to decide to do something like this. I literally started
telling him the items the Thursday before Black Friday, so
he was able to get everything for a steal.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
A steal.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I've said before that relationships are a puzzle. It's really wild.
You could be set up with someone who everything that
they are is everything you want, and then you're with
them and they could like slowly kiss you or talk
in a low voice, or snore or keep you up
at night, or eat strange or be weird. When you're
(13:00):
with them, they don't know where the fuck they're going,
or like like a thousand things, and you have to
pick what things make up your puzzle. You can't pick
them off. It's not gonna be perfect. It's a New
York City apartment. So how do you decide what is important?
Is if someone gives you the itck and the way
they kiss, can you teach them? If someone eats strange
or addresses terribly, can you fix that?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Like?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
What is your puzzle? How are you going to piece
your puzzle together so you're not unrealistic and you're getting
what you need? What if someone has five kids? You
want kids, but they have five? What if someone has
zero kids? You think that's a red flag when it's
actually not. Men who do not have children or who
have not been married by a certain age are not
(13:43):
necessarily a red flag. A man who has not gotten
married by a certain age, who has done it solely
because they don't want to do it just to check
the box and don't want a divorce under their belt
just to make society or their family happy, is not
a red flag. And a man who has not had
kids because they wanted to only have kids if they
(14:03):
found their person, and they happen to have not found
their person is also not a red flag.
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Bethenny Frankel
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