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Speaker 1 (00:12):
I was asked by a brand that I'm traveling to
an amazing location for you have to choose two original
housewives for this campaign idea. I originally wasn't sure, just
because I don't want to go back into the housewives cesspool,
nothing to do with them. But you have to pick two,
so I chose two women. Then I'm sitting last week.
My daughter is at an appointment and I have to
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just kill time. And I know a girl who happens
to be in Palm Beach and I say to her,
do you want to just go get a margarita? And
I sit outside at a quiet bar. No one is there, Man,
that's not true. Twenty people are there and slowly but surely,
like sheiicish type of people start walking in, like Palm
Beach type people like gays dressed to the nines and
women in head to toe pink or lily pulser or florals.
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And I'm like, what's going on. It's a weekday. I
think it was like a Tuesday, And I'm like, what
is happening? Clockla? Is this what goes on in pon Beach?
People are just coming here and having cocktails like this
is great? So I realized that there's like a game
night there, so lo and behold, Ramona Singer walks up
to me in a sleeveless matching set pants and a
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tank and it's like head to toe so Ramona coated.
If it were Saint Bart's, it would be mack or Mae.
We're in pom Beach, so that she's wearing coral head
to toe. You have to always celebrate Ramona being Ramona,
Like Ramona's the truest, most crystallized form of Ramona. I
happened to fall upon a video the other day where
she thought she was eating pistachios but she ate dog
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food and she told us and I was like, I
love you chef's kiss. She has learned how to be
the most Ramona possible, and it's she is one of
the greatest housewives of all time because she brings the drama,
doesn't kill the party, and is just quintessentially Ramona. So
she walks in and it's like the most Ramona walks up.
You're just smiling, even if you hate her, and she
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says the worst thing, you just have to appreciate it.
So she walks up, doesn't say the worst thing, she's
pleasant because I stand by the fact that housewives are
also just women. Yes, they're very desperate, they're very thirsty,
and you know they want it more than anything, but
you wouldn't know that unless you were on a show
with them. Before Kelly ben Sima was on the show,
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people are like, Oh, she was married to Gill ben
Simone and she goes to the fashion shows and she
seemed cheek. Then she comes on the show and she
seems like a fucking train wreck. Like half the rest
of us. People are like just people that you see
at cocktail parties. You have no understanding of how they interact,
how they flow. You just think they're this thing famous people,
people who used to be big on television, Like they
come on reality television, then they seem like loser train wrecks.
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So she walks up to me, We start talking. She
tells me a couple little secrets about the show, which
I will not divulge, and I give her a little
bit of advice which I will not divulge, and concerns
that she has which I will not divulge. And then
I walk away, and then I see Sonya and I
assume they're there together, like they've just been living in
a home together in pom Beach since the last time
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I saw them or anything about them, And I'm like,
what the fuck and I go wait, she goes, no,
i haven't seen Ramona in months. I'm like, you've got
to fucking be kidding me right now. Of course, later
in the comments, people were like, oh, this is a
plan and you're going back to the show. I'm like,
there's no way that I showed up here at four
o'clock in the afternoon to have a margarita buy my
lonesome killing time. And I just saw Sonya and then
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Ramona in the wild and they didn't know each other
was here, and they don't hang out, and they haven't
seen each other for a month. So I take Sonya
over to the table. Sonya is a whack of dude.
The thing she's saying half makes sense, like she's so
Sonya codd too, and she's like, I'm here all the time.
And Ramona separate, He's like, I'm here all the time,
and I'm just like, you guys are kidding. You both
say you're here all the time, but you've never seen
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each other here. I am here none of the time.
I've never been here in my life. So I've been
to the hotel one time. I stayed there years ago,
but before it was a thing. So I'm like, Sonya
come over to Ramona, and Ramona like looks unbothered when
she sees her. And I said, well, and I have
to stir up the shit because that was me. I
always stirred up the shit, like I would always just
like know how to provoke them to be entertaining. And
I just pull out my phone because I just know that,
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like I could capture something. There's something I forgot to
capture that I'll get with them on the commercial that
I'm doing with them that I suggested them for that
I'm now so excited about. So I said to Ramona,
I'm like Sonia says, she's here all the time, and
like you say, you're here all the time, but you've
never seen Mama's Like, I have a table. I have
a standing table. This is my table. I have a table.
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This is my table. I have a table. This is
my table. I have a standing table. I come here
every week. I live here, I was born here, I
will die here. I decorated it, I planned it, I
curated it. It's my menu, et cetera, and so like
it just was perfect all you need reality gold and
everyone in the comments when I posted it was like, literally,
this is better than any show that's been on since
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you left, which I haven't seen, but so many people
said it. They're like, this is my life. This gave
me life, this healed the universe. Like it was just
that's the stuff I do miss. That's the part I
do miss. Like, honestly, I could do a show with
just myself, Ramona and Sonya and it would entertain you
all forever. But when people in the comments like she
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wants to be back on the show so badly, I
can promise you I can be back on the show
anytime I want. They will just have to pull the
Brinks truck up and get me enough money, which they
will not and do not have to do it, so
I will not be on your television screens. You will
have to have me here and on my social media
to get that. So I had a great time. I
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was glad to see them and once again thrilled for them,
and I hope they hit it out of the park
and take the show into the end zone. And they
did catch Bravo while they're sleeping. Because Bravo has never
really known how to take care of their talent. It's
sort of like a factory, and he seems to have
long standing talent that stays with them a very long time,
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so it's not like as much of a revolving door
where you're in, you're out, you're in, you're out, you
bring you back. So congratulations to E and whoever versyint
is the company, the body that is now running this rodeo,
God only knows. Because Bravo can't afford to hold on
to all of their talent. They can't afford that kind
of money, so it's gonna be a little bit of
like a free for all, and they're gonna protect the
realm and the talent that they do have on the
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shows that do work, like it's their entire job. Yeah,
you're welcome. I want to applaud you who have raised
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or have teen children. Everything they say about the nightmare
of this phase is true. So many fears are heightened now.
I feel like a selfish, entitled loser for talking about
this because I have one teenager. Okay, I've never really
had a nanny per se. I've always been home with
my kid now less, so I travel a little bit
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more Now she's in her room doing her own thing,
she has her own plans. It's different, but like it
is a gnarly era for everyone. Okay, sometimes you know
you'd fantasize about being with them, but being with them
has a different meaning than it used to, like even
up till twelve thirteen. Like you're like, wait, there are people.
We can go out to dinner together. It's amazing. Like
as they get older, there's the rub about, like they
want to be with other kids or you're cool, you're
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not cool, Like it's fun to be with you a
little bit, and my daughter likes to be with me
a lot. We spend a lot of time together, but
like we're not doing the same things we used to do.
We're not going to like you know, the pumpkin patch
or the balloon artist or you know, the same cutesy stuff.
We're not doing all those things you could just rely on,
like the amusement park, the activity, the apple picking, like
you could, although she would go apple picking now, but
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we don't. We're not. We're in Florida. But I'm just saying,
and you get a little Lazier when I was she
was a kid. I was the fucking sickest. I was
not the playground person. I would go there, I hated it.
I was the go to the ice cream making place.
I was the cupcake making place. I was the pump
in picking. I was the apple picking. I was the
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radio city, the fucking se Sanna. I was Macy's. I
was all those like organized activities. I was that. I
was great at that. Okay, I wasn't great at like
just going to the park and like the free range
toss the ball, but like this is a weird age
and shopping and eating can't be like the only activities.
And my daughter's very into school and like academics now,
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and I got to be honest. Also, I'm not the
great homework person. I literally don't know why I did
well on a you smarter than a fifth grader, because
I don't think that I am. And I got lucky,
Like I literally didn't know whether fifty two was the
number of cards or states. I was a stun deer,
so I don't would not understand any of her homework
and even the way I was doing, like I think
it was like long division or something was like they
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do it differently now. So I was fucking her up
when I tried one time. I'm not it, like I'm
not like I'm good at like I'm going to pay
for the tutor and structure it and help you and
make the appointments and like want to say you'll for success,
but I'm not great at it. So this is an
age though, where you're dealing with such strong emotions, You're
dealing with such strong physical changes. You're dealing with insecurities
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and hair and skin and being cool, and you're dealing
with like the hormonal like emotions that are irrational. You're
dealing with loving them so much and also fucking hating them.
And you have to talk to people you know, and
it's nice for once someone to be honest. It's not like,
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oh yeah, no, not my Jane, she's going to Princeton. Like,
speak to someone whos being honest, you'd be like, my
fucking kid, nightmare like, and then you have a friend
is like she's such a fucking bitch. I can't stand it.
And it makes you feel like a warm blanket was
tossed over you after a marathon, like you're just feeling comfortable.
And then you'll say to the same person, she's being
great right now, it's a war zone, and then you like,
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because you're dealing with emotional issues, there's a gray area.
So let's say someone does something or acts out out
of emotion, but they do something that's not tolerated in
your household and you're strict. So let's say you have
a kid who lied. Let's say it's a little kid.
I don't have a little kid who bites like. You
want to punish them because they bit like a four
year old or something, right, but they're biting from an
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emotional reason. But biting is not acceptable, So you want
to discipline, but you don't know what discipline is right
because taking a phone away from someone who bit like
it's not going to cure the biting. So in teens
it's different. It could be like lying, they lied to you.
They lied, or they lashed out and did something, took
something out of your closet, or I don't know what,
they did something that was not acceptable, but it was
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from an emotional reason. It could be really bad that
needs to be dealt with. So the problem is you're
trying to discipline, but you're disciplining something that is frankly emotional.
So it's like a very fine line in deciding how
to do it because you're kind of almost just disciplining
to make yourself feel better, Like you're not curing an
emotional issue by just disciplining right and wrong. You have
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to kind of get under the hood of the emotion
and be there to support, but not be a pushover
that's going to emotionally support and ignore the fact that
that is not acceptable. So, like, I realized that there
was something that wasn't acceptable. So my approach, which was
validated by this therapist, was like, yes, you set boundaries
like this is unacceptable, this is nipped in the bud
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right now, this is unacceptable. These are the consequences. But
you can always come to me, and I'm always here
to discuss this with you. And I want to know
when you're ready, like how you're feeling about this, and
dip back into it, because you're not going to like
approach something emotional from when someone's heightened and we've just
had a hysterical situation. They don't want to be like, hey,
let's talk, but you kind of talk, you know, when
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someone's taking a bath or you're making a meal, or
you're in a car, or you're out to dinner, So
you have to find your way back into the emotion.
You have to set the boundaries of the discipline. But
it's just a different time. Like if I steal at
work now as an adult, like I'm getting fired, that's
a consequence. But if I steal at school at fifteen,
which my daughter's not stealing at school, or you know,
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I'm giving a complete random example, there might be a
different reason behind it. Yes, there's a reason behind it
as an adult, but tough shit. You know, people lie, cheat, steal,
and kill people because of emotional reasons. We're not able
to deal with that at a job. Your boss isn't
gonna be like, yeah, you stole or you know, you
poked someone with a pen at work and your cubicle.
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Let's talk about it. Like there's kind of no talk
about it as an adult. So hopefully we're raising teens
and dealing with their emotions so that we don't get
to the point where they're stabbing someone with a pencil
and a cubicle as an adult. I don't know if
this makes sense. I'm just saying, like, you're like molding
human beings navigating a time and you're trying to set
boundaries while also deal with them emotionally. So I find
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it to be a very challenging time. And people say,
and then we're going to get into like drinking, We're
getting into drugs, We're getting into eating, We're getting into
body image, We're getting into Instagram, we're getting into TikTok
and how much people are on social media and influences,
and we're getting into that being their main source of
like absorption, with politics, with health, with everything. We're getting
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into their relationships. Who are they choosing? How are we
describing who they should choose? By example, are you dating
someone who's an abuser, who's a smoker, who's a drinker,
who's a cutter, And then you're expecting your kids to
do something different than you are at home? Are you
in a relationship with an abuser because you can't afford
to get out of one? But that's still the model
they're seeing. Is their parent absent or not absent? And
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is that you know, molding who they're going to or
not going to date or look for Are you intervening
in that? Do you have an absentee parent who made
your kid feel abandoned or not wanted, And how is
that affecting them in their body image and their self
esteem and in who they choose. Are you able to
like let them know to choose someone who's going to
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treat them really well because they could like someone or
not like someone in school based on if they're hard
to get or not. And then you're like, Okay, well
when they get with another girl, then they're gonna be
hard to get and you missed your opportunity because you're
being superficial about it. You know, you're trying to like
talk to them using your institutional knowledge as an adult
who went through all this shit and make them better
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than you were. It's really an interesting time. And then
they're gonna start driving, and you're like, now you're driving,
and you're are you scattered? Are you organized? Are you
a know it all? Do you like not take constructive
criticism about how to operate a vehicle? Do you have
good judgment? Do you know never to get into a
car after a sip of alcohol? Do you know never
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to get into another person's car or let them drive?
Do you know to intervene and to get a new
or ber to call your parent in the middle of
the night, like you're battling a lot. It's a very
hard time, and I'm up for the task, but like
I'm on it. And there's an age when like you're
not calling parents like they're going to a party, their
friend is driving them. You're not like calling the parent
of a sixteen year old, Hey, hey, I know they
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want to have a play date, like they're young adults.
So now you're trying to actually operate and find out
where they are when they might have a tracking device
on their phone, but they're throwing it into the bushes
like they're not stupid. So I find it to be
extremely intense to navigate