March 17, 2026 • 19 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So I want to preface this by saying that I
don't comment on people's physical appearance. I really I'm never
gonna be like, why was she wearing that? I might
say something was unusual, I might celebrate it. I remember
Teresa at her wedding. I think her hair had its
own personality, but like, I was celebrating that because it
(00:34):
was quintessentially her. Everybody wants to look their best, or
if they're on a red carpet or going to an event,
tries to look their best. So for someone to comment
and be like, what the fuck happened to her? And
it's happened to me, Oh my god, corpse skeletor corpse bride, Like,
I get it, I know it.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So I definitely don't.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Want to comment negatively on anyone's appearance, but I want
to comment on people's appearance. Is changing so drastically in
twenty twenty six, more than I think we've ever seen.
So very few of you were old enough to remember
the movie Death Becomes Her. But it was I think
it was Goldie Haunt. It might have been Jessica Lang,
(01:14):
or it wasn't. I don't know who it was, doesn't matter.
It was like three major actresses and they were all
competing with each other with plastic surgery. The show Feud
by Ryan Murphy, which was about I think it was
like Betty Davis and I forget who else was about,
and maybe Joan Crawford. Anyway, it doesn't matter the characters,
but it was about that, like years ago, them competing
(01:35):
with each other. They both drank so much, smoke so much,
but like did they tape their face and all that stuff?
So it's always been different versions of it. Now people
have way more resources, you know, I'm gonna get into
this about food later, which I'll explain, but like, people
have way more resources now with GLP ones, so there
(01:56):
are so many more tools now, plastic surgery, reading injections, botox, plumping, collagen,
skin stuff, peels, lasers, you know, and now there's so
much more and the rich and celebrities have so much
more access to it, so it creates more of a resentment.
So I think that's the real reason for the commenting
(02:18):
on people's appearance, Like people wouldn't comment on people's appearance
if the playing field were level, Like if a woman
who has several kids and several jobs and paycheck to paycheck,
or food shop to food shop, if it were all
level in how people got to look, which it never
has been. It wasn't in It's not in Bridgerton or
(02:40):
the Guild and Age or et cetera. It's never has been.
But the disparity seems so great because there are so
many tactics now. And what I'm getting at is the
movie Death Becomes Her was women competing with each other
and they were getting everything they could get, and their
faces started falling off. As they got older, their faces
started falling off, they started melting as human beings. We're
(03:00):
getting to the point where people don't look like who
they used to look like. And in some cases it
lands and it's super healthy and looks great, and in
some cases it doesn't land, and there are fifty shades
of gray in between and people's opinions. So I'm certainly
not going to comment on anyone's appearance because if someone
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looks too thin, I personally have some kidney issues and
it makes me very exhausted and dehydrated, and I could
probably look haggard from it, like someone could be going
through something. When you get older, you're also not eating
as much you're just not as hungry. You have a
different relationship to food as you did when you were younger.
It's different hormonally, it's different energy, it's different everything, Like
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just things change, okay, and not inso you're older, do
you realize that? So when I see someone's appearance, you
never know what's going on with them. And even if
somebody has an eating issue or a GLP issue or
a metabolism issue, all of these things could be something
wrong with them. Like, it doesn't mean it has to
be something that's a sort of normally accept medical diagnosis.
(04:01):
Body dysmorphia is an illness like someone who looks painfully thin.
There might there's something probably going on metabolically, hormonally, mentally, emotionally, divorce,
whatever it is, you know, financial problems, a death in
the family. I really do want to be less judgmental
(04:22):
as I get older. Anyone can fire a random shot,
and I just don't want that example for my daughter.
But I do notice that I'm seeing people that look
so different from before, and people are commenting on it.
And someone who works with me said to me, every
single friend of mine is on she said, ozempic. But
(04:42):
she means ozempic is band aid. You know, it's just
a name. It's skinny Margarita. You're welcome. So she said,
every single friend of mine is on ozempic. And she
is one of these people who's just scared to like
take something. She doesn't want to be the one case.
She's paranoid. And many of you will probably agree. She
doesn't want to inject something and then it's like in
her system, and what if? What if she's the one example?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And I said to her, people do it like I've
heard of the gaze, like just doing it like before
they go on a trip, Like people do it for
one time. And I know someone who you all have
heard of, who's very very successful and wealthy and famous.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And she said, yeah, just take the shot once in
a while.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
And I'm like, oh, like people are doing it not
as like a regular lifestyle. The news is fake and
that they say you gain it all right back. I
don't think that that's true. I know people who have
done it like one time and it like resets them forever.
I don't know if it shows them what the calories
they need to take in. I don't know if it
changed your metabolism. But I know that it does, and
(05:43):
I know that I know one person who's become malnourished
as a result of it, Like she's actually malnourished. So
people have to get their labs done because this can
really affect people's health. And I also know that people
look different, and I know that if someone has never
been thin, I know from some of my friends, I
think that they would take years off their life. I
think there have been studies that years ago before this
(06:05):
all came about, there was studies where people were pulled
and they said that they would take years off their
life if they could be thin for those years. So
many people like it is death becomes her. Many people
from teens on want it so badly that they would
risk their own life.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So that is a disease, but that is a fact.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
So you're seeing people look different, like they're saying, there's
an expression for women, your face or your ass.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You're choosing your face or your ass at a certain point.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So if you're gonna have a tight, small ass, you're
gonna have a gaunt face. And if you're gonna have
a plump, beautiful face, you're gonna have a bigger ass.
Like this is like a thing that people used to say,
and you're kind of seeing it. I feel like I
like being a woman of a certain age, and I
like putting on a glorious, elegant one piece. I just
like the way it feels. I like, I don't know,
there's a confidence to it, there's a security to it.
(07:00):
I just don't I feel a little weird in a bikini.
I do it, and certainly for sports illustrator, that's a
different message. And I don't want to be the one
on stage with twenty two year olds wearing a one piece,
because then it's like I'm gonna start, you know, just
drinking like supplemental shakes, like an elderly person. But day
to day, I prefer to wear an elegant one piece.
I like what it represents. I like that I'm a mom,
(07:21):
I am not competing with my daughter.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I notice women at the beach that are of a
certain age that are wearing bikinis and their skin is
sagging off their bones.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And I don't even know if like.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Reductive surgery would do anything, because it would just be
like then they would have to like implant something, because
if you get a breastlift, you tighten off some of
that skin. They need to put a small for most
people small implanting because it like shapes the boob. Otherwise
it's gonna be like a flat pancake of skin that
got taken away. I myself have had that. They had
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to put like a small. It was like a shoulder
pad size, just to like have some shaping when I
got a lift years ago from having big boobs to
like getting rid of all that extra skin. So I
would say, like, for people who are losing all this weight,
you would take away skin, but then you'd be like
a flat fucking pancake. And I just don't know if
there's any way to do it. So people are just
choosing to wear smaller sizes of clothing but sacrifice the
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way they look. I know one person that lost a
lot of weight and exercises a ton, and I had
to say, you are looking elderly, like you're looking a
little brittle, And no one's ever gonna believe that, because
people who wanted to be thin so badly probably think like,
I'm trying to like gatekeep thinness because I've been thin
for a long time, and I think there's probably gonna
be a pendulum swing back to some version of voluptuousness,
(08:51):
you know, like j Lo and Beyonce and Kim Kardashian
brought in voluptuous years ago, Lizzo and someone was talking
about the actress that was precious. People were talking about
body positivity, but then you know, Remy Baterer was criticized
for this. Then when these glps came, all these people
went on it, so no one believed that they really
(09:11):
believed in the body positivity. It was the body positivity
Ashley Graham, et cetera. It was the body positivity because
you're not thin, but the minute you could have access
to it, like the Kardashians and everyone else, you took
that because they've always wanted to be thin. So I
don't know where the pendulum will swing. But I think
all this saggy skin and like different look in people's faces,
(09:34):
et cetera. I happen to be thin, but like my face,
I'm looking at myself unless I have dysmorphia, for the
most part, looks fairly healthy. On tired days, it looks bad.
On black circle days it looks. But that's because I
have been thin for decades and really my whole life
except for like I was probably like ten to fifteen
pounds heavier. I was never like overweight, but I've been
(09:55):
so I've been some version of thin for my whole life,
so I don't have this big drastic distortion and skin proportion.
But now we're seeing as a result of that and
surgery and every other thing, people look like entirely different people,
for better or for worse.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So there's a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I didn't see them before and after picture because I
I don't know. People criticized Bradley Cooper for a while
for looking very different for a minute, Tom Brady got it,
but it's whatever it was, like settled in. I think
Tom Brady's beautiful. Bradley Cooper I didn't notice, but I
also thought he's dating someone decades younger, like he's going
to do something. Brad Pitt apparently had work, but I
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think people liked it. Jim Carrey looks very different now.
Sometimes someone looks very different and it could be good.
It's just different. Like years ago, Jennifer Gray from Dirty
Dancing got her nose done, but she just looked different
because that was signature. It's like Lauren Hutton getting rid
of the space in her teeth. It was like her
signature look. So people become offended when someone's signature look
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is taken away because it's how they look at them.
And Jim Carrey, who's such a character actor who's older,
And you're in Hollywood and you're older, and being older
in Hollywood is different than being older in life. Like
being older in Hollywood, you literally feel expired, like spoiled milk.
You are trying to get rolls, get noticed. You're in
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a town that is so superficial, like Coffee Bean and
Tea Leaf is an office that people wearing leggings all
day long, drinking blended cafe mocha diarrhea milkshakes like they
make you go to the bathroom the minute you drink
them like that, And I love Coffee Bean. I'm those
milkshakes were crack and took over Hollywood. I'm just saying,
like it's a different life there, and not everyone lives
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there anymore, but for the entertainment industry. Many actors and
actresses still have their very expensive homes, and the entertainment
industry has changed as we know it. I know actresses
that won't date someone close to their age because it's
sort of like they need to feel younger, so they
have to date younger because who we date is who
we think we are. That's why a lot of older
men date younger women. It makes them feel that they're young,
(12:02):
which is not true. It makes them look older, but
they think that. And it happens with women too. They
don't want to accept their age. They want to date younger.
So in that town it's so aggressive. And so Jim
Carrey is still an actor and an entertainer in that
town who has an ego in is.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Vain like many other people.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And so I guess he got work, but people like
are resentful because he doesn't look like the same Jim Carrey.
He wouldn't look like the same Jim Carrey anyway, because
he's twenty thirty years older. We're not like frozen in time.
It's not Austin Powers frozen in the fucking ice block
and he comes out and he's peeing, like, you can't
have it both wis ah?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Did she age? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
When Sex and the City came back, they were like,
oh my god, did she age? Yes, she fucking aged.
The show was on twenty five years ago or whatever
it was, and yes, they got blastic surgery.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
They're in the entertainment industry.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Sarah Jessica Parker is celebrated for having her grayes out
and criticized. Pamela Anderson is celebrated for letting her grays
on and don't buy an to the aging vanity bullshit,
and then she's criticized, like, you cannot win, so you
need to do what you want. So Jim Carrey would
look different no matter what, because he'd look older. People
don't have to age the way that you want them to,
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but people look so drastically different that it is actually
shocking other people.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And it happens quickly and frankly. He's the judge. He
gets to do what he wants with his body, his choice.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Moving right along to me Moore, who's stunning no matter
what she does and has the long signature hair and
has had amazing fashion moments, and she won an award
and she is having her glow up again like she's
sort of dissolved for years, and then she's in her
sixties and she's on every red carpet. Brad Goreski is
a fabulous stylist used to work with Rachel Zoe.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
He is with her.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
She seems like his muse. If I can call her
amuse to him, I don't know, but there, you know,
she looks fantastic and everything. And now she had this
Gucci leather outfit and she has this chopped hair and
she's significantly thinner. So people are celebrating because she looks
like she's from the and like her face looks amazing
because of this plastic surgery, you know, which she did
(14:05):
years ago in her thirties. I think it was late
thirties maybe, which or forty years old, which was young.
But she did something right when she came out of
the water on Charlie's Angels and everyone was like it
was the greatest work ever done. Like she gets amazing work.
And so people are loving that her face looks young,
her body looks different, So something happened. She did something,
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she took something, her body, her choice, but people are
commenting on it because she does look significantly different. There's
a drama to it. It actually worked with the leather
out because it's super severe and giving, like Victoria Beckham,
but people have an.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Opinion on it.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Ozzy Osborne's daughter Kelly, she lost her father. She has
always struggled with her weight, she is definitely on the glps.
She looks significantly different. It is drastically different. People are
commenting on it because it happened quickly. It is shockingly different.
She looks shockingly different. And people criticize Mandy Kayling, But
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that was just a weight loss thing, you know, Lizo
lost weight. Like people get mad at people for changing,
for making choices, and these people are in the public eye.
And I do think it stems in money and them
being able to And frankly, even Kelly Osborn said everybody
would do ozepic if they could afford it.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I have friends who are scared of things like this
because it hasn't been around for long enough to know.
Kristin wigg glow up of a lifetime. You know, as
these people become more successful and their comedians, they're allowed
to be beautiful in addition to being funny. Like historically
women who were funny were not leaning into their beauty
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and fashion and red carpets and wardrobe changes and makeup
and like being beautiful. It just sort of wasn't allowed.
It wasn't humorous. Amy Schumer has lost a lot of
weight and she's post breakup, Kristin Wigg is no longer
on SNL and like she I don't know if she's
in She was in Palm Royal, which is a different
type of show than SNL every day and like comedies
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and making fun of herself. You know, she's having a
beautiful glow up moment. She is to me like channeling
Jennifer Aniston from years ago. And she used to wear
Calvin Klein and the simple hair and the sheath and
the natural makeup, like go on, you know, go on,
I said, I did a video saying she's a supermodel,
like and Nikki having her moment again after her amazing
(16:37):
I think it was the Golden Globes and she years
ago did the roast for Tom Brady and like, she's
very funny and she's very talented, and I really like
her a lot. I had her on my podcast and
she like is getting to have fashionable moments. I mean
she looks different, like people are allowed to change and evolve.
I just think there's a disparity and it brings up
the difference in socioeconomic status for people that are commenting
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what the fuck happened to her? Like they don't like
a lot of change because they can't facilitate that change
on their own. You know, people really resent the fact
that they have to do it the old fashioned way.
I know a friend who at her company has it
as part of the plan that people there they pay
a certain amount towards these weight loss drugs because she
thinks it makes people happier. You know, that's to be argued,
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and everyone's exercising it, so it's just a conversation. Also, food,
we have food access that people never had before, meaning
we were growing up. There's not soy milk was innovative
like later in life in thirties, I think forties. I mean,
like no one had almond milk oat milk, and by
the way, a lot of it's bullshit and fake food.
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And it's a Macadamian nut milk beverage, which means it's
not really made with full nut milk and its garbage
and I drink half of.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
It, but like not real almond milk.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
But anyway, we have chickpea pasta, califlower pizza, lentil crisps,
like low car rice, and I know many of you
think this stuff is bullshit, but like I had a
healthy rice yesterday that is like a better for you
rice that really had good ingredients in it. I don't
know what the magic is, but it mimics rice. It
has like a quarter of the calories or a third
the calories of rice. Same thing with pasta. These things
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taste good. There are like these like healthier bagels. Like
there's so much access to things that we didn't have
when we were younger. But yes, it was more real
food and things taste good. That's what's crazy too, Like
lower calorie, lower car lower whatever.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Now you can judge that.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I'm just telling you that we have access to so
much more now than you did then. So people are
taking GLP ones, they have access to lower calorie foods,
like they're just teed up to look different than we
were years ago. So in beverages too, Listen, I created
the first ever low calorie margarita.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
We didn't have access to that years ago.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
You just drank the sugary margarita to faster, to answer
(19:12):
to the coster
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So I want to preface this by saying that I
don't comment on people's physical appearance. I really I'm never
gonna be like, why was she wearing that? I might
say something was unusual, I might celebrate it. I remember
Teresa at her wedding. I think her hair had its
own personality, but like, I was celebrating that because it
(00:34):
was quintessentially her. Everybody wants to look their best, or
if they're on a red carpet or going to an event,
tries to look their best. So for someone to comment
and be like, what the fuck happened to her? And
it's happened to me, Oh my god, corpse skeletor corpse bride, Like,
I get it, I know it.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So I definitely don't.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Want to comment negatively on anyone's appearance, but I want
to comment on people's appearance. Is changing so drastically in
twenty twenty six, more than I think we've ever seen.
So very few of you were old enough to remember
the movie Death Becomes Her. But it was I think
it was Goldie Haunt. It might have been Jessica Lang,
(01:14):
or it wasn't. I don't know who it was, doesn't matter.
It was like three major actresses and they were all
competing with each other with plastic surgery. The show Feud
by Ryan Murphy, which was about I think it was
like Betty Davis and I forget who else was about,
and maybe Joan Crawford. Anyway, it doesn't matter the characters,
but it was about that, like years ago, them competing
(01:35):
with each other. They both drank so much, smoke so much,
but like did they tape their face and all that stuff?
So it's always been different versions of it. Now people
have way more resources, you know, I'm gonna get into
this about food later, which I'll explain, but like, people
have way more resources now with GLP ones, so there
(01:56):
are so many more tools now, plastic surgery, reading injections, botox, plumping, collagen,
skin stuff, peels, lasers, you know, and now there's so
much more and the rich and celebrities have so much
more access to it, so it creates more of a resentment.
So I think that's the real reason for the commenting
(02:18):
on people's appearance, Like people wouldn't comment on people's appearance
if the playing field were level, Like if a woman
who has several kids and several jobs and paycheck to paycheck,
or food shop to food shop, if it were all
level in how people got to look, which it never
has been. It wasn't in It's not in Bridgerton or
(02:40):
the Guild and Age or et cetera. It's never has been.
But the disparity seems so great because there are so
many tactics now. And what I'm getting at is the
movie Death Becomes Her was women competing with each other
and they were getting everything they could get, and their
faces started falling off. As they got older, their faces
started falling off, they started melting as human beings. We're
(03:00):
getting to the point where people don't look like who
they used to look like. And in some cases it
lands and it's super healthy and looks great, and in
some cases it doesn't land, and there are fifty shades
of gray in between and people's opinions. So I'm certainly
not going to comment on anyone's appearance because if someone
(03:20):
looks too thin, I personally have some kidney issues and
it makes me very exhausted and dehydrated, and I could
probably look haggard from it, like someone could be going
through something. When you get older, you're also not eating
as much you're just not as hungry. You have a
different relationship to food as you did when you were younger.
It's different hormonally, it's different energy, it's different everything, Like
(03:40):
just things change, okay, and not inso you're older, do
you realize that? So when I see someone's appearance, you
never know what's going on with them. And even if
somebody has an eating issue or a GLP issue or
a metabolism issue, all of these things could be something
wrong with them. Like, it doesn't mean it has to
be something that's a sort of normally accept medical diagnosis.
(04:01):
Body dysmorphia is an illness like someone who looks painfully thin.
There might there's something probably going on metabolically, hormonally, mentally, emotionally, divorce,
whatever it is, you know, financial problems, a death in
the family. I really do want to be less judgmental
(04:22):
as I get older. Anyone can fire a random shot,
and I just don't want that example for my daughter.
But I do notice that I'm seeing people that look
so different from before, and people are commenting on it.
And someone who works with me said to me, every
single friend of mine is on she said, ozempic. But
(04:42):
she means ozempic is band aid. You know, it's just
a name. It's skinny Margarita. You're welcome. So she said,
every single friend of mine is on ozempic. And she
is one of these people who's just scared to like
take something. She doesn't want to be the one case.
She's paranoid. And many of you will probably agree. She
doesn't want to inject something and then it's like in
her system, and what if? What if she's the one example?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And I said to her, people do it like I've
heard of the gaze, like just doing it like before
they go on a trip, Like people do it for
one time. And I know someone who you all have
heard of, who's very very successful and wealthy and famous.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And she said, yeah, just take the shot once in
a while.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
And I'm like, oh, like people are doing it not
as like a regular lifestyle. The news is fake and
that they say you gain it all right back. I
don't think that that's true. I know people who have
done it like one time and it like resets them forever.
I don't know if it shows them what the calories
they need to take in. I don't know if it
changed your metabolism. But I know that it does, and
(05:43):
I know that I know one person who's become malnourished
as a result of it, Like she's actually malnourished. So
people have to get their labs done because this can
really affect people's health. And I also know that people
look different, and I know that if someone has never
been thin, I know from some of my friends, I
think that they would take years off their life. I
think there have been studies that years ago before this
(06:05):
all came about, there was studies where people were pulled
and they said that they would take years off their
life if they could be thin for those years. So
many people like it is death becomes her. Many people
from teens on want it so badly that they would
risk their own life.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So that is a disease, but that is a fact.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
So you're seeing people look different, like they're saying, there's
an expression for women, your face or your ass.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You're choosing your face or your ass at a certain point.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So if you're gonna have a tight, small ass, you're
gonna have a gaunt face. And if you're gonna have
a plump, beautiful face, you're gonna have a bigger ass.
Like this is like a thing that people used to say,
and you're kind of seeing it. I feel like I
like being a woman of a certain age, and I
like putting on a glorious, elegant one piece. I just
like the way it feels. I like, I don't know,
there's a confidence to it, there's a security to it.
(07:00):
I just don't I feel a little weird in a bikini.
I do it, and certainly for sports illustrator, that's a
different message. And I don't want to be the one
on stage with twenty two year olds wearing a one piece,
because then it's like I'm gonna start, you know, just
drinking like supplemental shakes, like an elderly person. But day
to day, I prefer to wear an elegant one piece.
I like what it represents. I like that I'm a mom,
(07:21):
I am not competing with my daughter.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I notice women at the beach that are of a
certain age that are wearing bikinis and their skin is
sagging off their bones.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And I don't even know if like.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Reductive surgery would do anything, because it would just be
like then they would have to like implant something, because
if you get a breastlift, you tighten off some of
that skin. They need to put a small for most
people small implanting because it like shapes the boob. Otherwise
it's gonna be like a flat pancake of skin that
got taken away. I myself have had that. They had
(08:07):
to put like a small. It was like a shoulder
pad size, just to like have some shaping when I
got a lift years ago from having big boobs to
like getting rid of all that extra skin. So I
would say, like, for people who are losing all this weight,
you would take away skin, but then you'd be like
a flat fucking pancake. And I just don't know if
there's any way to do it. So people are just
choosing to wear smaller sizes of clothing but sacrifice the
(08:28):
way they look. I know one person that lost a
lot of weight and exercises a ton, and I had
to say, you are looking elderly, like you're looking a
little brittle, And no one's ever gonna believe that, because
people who wanted to be thin so badly probably think like,
I'm trying to like gatekeep thinness because I've been thin
for a long time, and I think there's probably gonna
be a pendulum swing back to some version of voluptuousness,
(08:51):
you know, like j Lo and Beyonce and Kim Kardashian
brought in voluptuous years ago, Lizzo and someone was talking
about the actress that was precious. People were talking about
body positivity, but then you know, Remy Baterer was criticized
for this. Then when these glps came, all these people
went on it, so no one believed that they really
(09:11):
believed in the body positivity. It was the body positivity
Ashley Graham, et cetera. It was the body positivity because
you're not thin, but the minute you could have access
to it, like the Kardashians and everyone else, you took
that because they've always wanted to be thin. So I
don't know where the pendulum will swing. But I think
all this saggy skin and like different look in people's faces,
(09:34):
et cetera. I happen to be thin, but like my face,
I'm looking at myself unless I have dysmorphia, for the
most part, looks fairly healthy. On tired days, it looks bad.
On black circle days it looks. But that's because I
have been thin for decades and really my whole life
except for like I was probably like ten to fifteen
pounds heavier. I was never like overweight, but I've been
(09:55):
so I've been some version of thin for my whole life,
so I don't have this big drastic distortion and skin proportion.
But now we're seeing as a result of that and
surgery and every other thing, people look like entirely different people,
for better or for worse.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So there's a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I didn't see them before and after picture because I
I don't know. People criticized Bradley Cooper for a while
for looking very different for a minute, Tom Brady got it,
but it's whatever it was, like settled in. I think
Tom Brady's beautiful. Bradley Cooper I didn't notice, but I
also thought he's dating someone decades younger, like he's going
to do something. Brad Pitt apparently had work, but I
(10:35):
think people liked it. Jim Carrey looks very different now.
Sometimes someone looks very different and it could be good.
It's just different. Like years ago, Jennifer Gray from Dirty
Dancing got her nose done, but she just looked different
because that was signature. It's like Lauren Hutton getting rid
of the space in her teeth. It was like her
signature look. So people become offended when someone's signature look
(10:58):
is taken away because it's how they look at them.
And Jim Carrey, who's such a character actor who's older,
And you're in Hollywood and you're older, and being older
in Hollywood is different than being older in life. Like
being older in Hollywood, you literally feel expired, like spoiled milk.
You are trying to get rolls, get noticed. You're in
(11:18):
a town that is so superficial, like Coffee Bean and
Tea Leaf is an office that people wearing leggings all
day long, drinking blended cafe mocha diarrhea milkshakes like they
make you go to the bathroom the minute you drink
them like that, And I love Coffee Bean. I'm those
milkshakes were crack and took over Hollywood. I'm just saying,
like it's a different life there, and not everyone lives
(11:40):
there anymore, but for the entertainment industry. Many actors and
actresses still have their very expensive homes, and the entertainment
industry has changed as we know it. I know actresses
that won't date someone close to their age because it's
sort of like they need to feel younger, so they
have to date younger because who we date is who
we think we are. That's why a lot of older
men date younger women. It makes them feel that they're young,
(12:02):
which is not true. It makes them look older, but
they think that. And it happens with women too. They
don't want to accept their age. They want to date younger.
So in that town it's so aggressive. And so Jim
Carrey is still an actor and an entertainer in that
town who has an ego in is.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Vain like many other people.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And so I guess he got work, but people like
are resentful because he doesn't look like the same Jim Carrey.
He wouldn't look like the same Jim Carrey anyway, because
he's twenty thirty years older. We're not like frozen in time.
It's not Austin Powers frozen in the fucking ice block
and he comes out and he's peeing, like, you can't
have it both wis ah?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Did she age? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
When Sex and the City came back, they were like,
oh my god, did she age? Yes, she fucking aged.
The show was on twenty five years ago or whatever
it was, and yes, they got blastic surgery.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
They're in the entertainment industry.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Sarah Jessica Parker is celebrated for having her grayes out
and criticized. Pamela Anderson is celebrated for letting her grays
on and don't buy an to the aging vanity bullshit,
and then she's criticized, like, you cannot win, so you
need to do what you want. So Jim Carrey would
look different no matter what, because he'd look older. People
don't have to age the way that you want them to,
(13:12):
but people look so drastically different that it is actually
shocking other people.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And it happens quickly and frankly. He's the judge. He
gets to do what he wants with his body, his choice.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Moving right along to me Moore, who's stunning no matter
what she does and has the long signature hair and
has had amazing fashion moments, and she won an award
and she is having her glow up again like she's
sort of dissolved for years, and then she's in her
sixties and she's on every red carpet. Brad Goreski is
a fabulous stylist used to work with Rachel Zoe.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
He is with her.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
She seems like his muse. If I can call her
amuse to him, I don't know, but there, you know,
she looks fantastic and everything. And now she had this
Gucci leather outfit and she has this chopped hair and
she's significantly thinner. So people are celebrating because she looks
like she's from the and like her face looks amazing
because of this plastic surgery, you know, which she did
(14:05):
years ago in her thirties. I think it was late
thirties maybe, which or forty years old, which was young.
But she did something right when she came out of
the water on Charlie's Angels and everyone was like it
was the greatest work ever done. Like she gets amazing work.
And so people are loving that her face looks young,
her body looks different, So something happened. She did something,
(14:25):
she took something, her body, her choice, but people are
commenting on it because she does look significantly different. There's
a drama to it. It actually worked with the leather
out because it's super severe and giving, like Victoria Beckham,
but people have an.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Opinion on it.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Ozzy Osborne's daughter Kelly, she lost her father. She has
always struggled with her weight, she is definitely on the glps.
She looks significantly different. It is drastically different. People are
commenting on it because it happened quickly. It is shockingly different.
She looks shockingly different. And people criticize Mandy Kayling, But
(15:14):
that was just a weight loss thing, you know, Lizo
lost weight. Like people get mad at people for changing,
for making choices, and these people are in the public eye.
And I do think it stems in money and them
being able to And frankly, even Kelly Osborn said everybody
would do ozepic if they could afford it.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I have friends who are scared of things like this
because it hasn't been around for long enough to know.
Kristin wigg glow up of a lifetime. You know, as
these people become more successful and their comedians, they're allowed
to be beautiful in addition to being funny. Like historically
women who were funny were not leaning into their beauty
(15:53):
and fashion and red carpets and wardrobe changes and makeup
and like being beautiful. It just sort of wasn't allowed.
It wasn't humorous. Amy Schumer has lost a lot of
weight and she's post breakup, Kristin Wigg is no longer
on SNL and like she I don't know if she's
in She was in Palm Royal, which is a different
type of show than SNL every day and like comedies
(16:16):
and making fun of herself. You know, she's having a
beautiful glow up moment. She is to me like channeling
Jennifer Aniston from years ago. And she used to wear
Calvin Klein and the simple hair and the sheath and
the natural makeup, like go on, you know, go on,
I said, I did a video saying she's a supermodel,
like and Nikki having her moment again after her amazing
(16:37):
I think it was the Golden Globes and she years
ago did the roast for Tom Brady and like, she's
very funny and she's very talented, and I really like
her a lot. I had her on my podcast and
she like is getting to have fashionable moments. I mean
she looks different, like people are allowed to change and evolve.
I just think there's a disparity and it brings up
the difference in socioeconomic status for people that are commenting
(17:01):
what the fuck happened to her? Like they don't like
a lot of change because they can't facilitate that change
on their own. You know, people really resent the fact
that they have to do it the old fashioned way.
I know a friend who at her company has it
as part of the plan that people there they pay
a certain amount towards these weight loss drugs because she
thinks it makes people happier. You know, that's to be argued,
(17:23):
and everyone's exercising it, so it's just a conversation. Also, food,
we have food access that people never had before, meaning
we were growing up. There's not soy milk was innovative
like later in life in thirties, I think forties. I mean,
like no one had almond milk oat milk, and by
the way, a lot of it's bullshit and fake food.
(17:45):
And it's a Macadamian nut milk beverage, which means it's
not really made with full nut milk and its garbage
and I drink half of.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
It, but like not real almond milk.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
But anyway, we have chickpea pasta, califlower pizza, lentil crisps,
like low car rice, and I know many of you
think this stuff is bullshit, but like I had a
healthy rice yesterday that is like a better for you
rice that really had good ingredients in it. I don't
know what the magic is, but it mimics rice. It
has like a quarter of the calories or a third
the calories of rice. Same thing with pasta. These things
(18:14):
taste good. There are like these like healthier bagels. Like
there's so much access to things that we didn't have
when we were younger. But yes, it was more real
food and things taste good. That's what's crazy too, Like
lower calorie, lower car lower whatever.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Now you can judge that.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I'm just telling you that we have access to so
much more now than you did then. So people are
taking GLP ones, they have access to lower calorie foods,
like they're just teed up to look different than we
were years ago. So in beverages too, Listen, I created
the first ever low calorie margarita.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
We didn't have access to that years ago.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
You just drank the sugary margarita to faster, to answer
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