LNC Experiences Keith Urban Decay

Normally Jonathan is the one to flub names, but this time Ariel did a tiny flub and Jonathan turned it into a recurring bit. Jonathan is also the one who writes these descriptions, and he thinks it would only be fair if Ariel did the same thing to him the next time (or next dozen times) he does something like that. Oh, and we talk about movies and stuff too.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Larger Drunk Lighter Podcast, the
podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
world around us and how very excited we are about them.
I'm aerial cast in and with me as always is
the magnificent Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
And unlike last week, this is a real episode, So
get ready for a three hour barn burner war.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
The last episode ended up I don't think we can
be I mean, I can be short winded by myself,
but I don't know that we can be short winded together.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, I know, I can't be. Like if I'm just
talking to myself in the mirror, I go on too long.
So that's why our brief announcement episode ended up being
half an hour long. And this one, this one's a
full boat, y'all. I actually went in and deleted a
lot of stuff because we had stories in here from

(01:05):
the past two weeks. But we chatted a little bit
about some of them last week, and some of them
I just feel are kind of too stale, so I
took them out.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Even then they'll probably resurface.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
But here's the thing, though, I'm I am glad for
all this news because one of the things that's going
around in the and we'll talk a little bit about
this in like some of the thirty seconds or less
kind of stuff, one of the things that's going on
around in the world of like the industry side of things,
is that I hear a lot of like streaming and

(01:36):
television and movies they're all in danger, and like vertical
shorts and things are the way it's going. And that's
sad to me because a lot of vertical shorts out
there are very like cheesy soap opera, which is just
not my thing. But it's nice to see that there
is still a lot of like traditional and modern traditional

(01:57):
media being made and in the works, because I really
do like having something that I can sync my teeth
into and spend some time with.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, I think all that news about the vertical short
form stuff is just daggers in the heart for the
folks behind Quibi.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, Quibby came out five years too early and during
a pandemic when nobody was using their phones.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
There's I mean, and there's a there's a place for
that kind of stuff, right, Like, I do feel like
there needs to be a moderation between scrolling and watching
like it's just a different it works different parts.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Of your can't. I can't do the scrolling thing. If
I if I start doing the scrolling thing, I fall
into the trap, the same trap, the trap that everyone
falls into. I mean, that's what it's built upon. It's
predicated upon this going to the next you know, bite
sized piece of content that doesn't really you know. Often
it can be misleading, it can be poorly researched, it

(02:57):
could be poorly performed. But because it's sure, you can
just go to the next one. And meanwhile, you're not
really diving into anything truly meaningful. You might find a
clip or two that kind of resonates with you, but
that's the exception rather than the rule, and your brain
doesn't care. Just like, go to the next one, go
to the next one, and I I fall into that

(03:19):
trap still, but usually within two or three I will
pull myself out of it and say no, no, no, no, no,
Let's do something else. Let's take a walk, read a book,
watch a movie, watch a TV show, you know, something else,
rather than just doing the video equivalent of doom scrolling.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, I mean I do I do it. I usually
set myself like a timer. That's good a couple of
minutes and then you have to get off. And I
really prefer, honestly, like the short form stuff that leads
me to something else. That's how I found After Midnight.
That's how I found drop Out. Like I was, I
had watched like some college humor back in like when

(03:55):
it was on YouTube pre pandemic, but I had no
idea about drop Out until I start. I had seen
clips of a court and Fay, of a court of
Fay and flowers, and I'm so glad it led me there,
but it was a little something to bring me to
something bigger.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, I've seen a few things where it's been a
clip from like some sort of action movie that I
otherwise had never heard of, and I'm like, ooh, that
action sequence looks interesting, let me see what this is,
and then invariably, like ninety nine times out of one hundred,
it turns out to be a movie that everyone hated.
And that's literally the one moment in the movie that

(04:29):
people thought was okay. And I'm like, well, I guess
if I'm gonna have to watch, like if I'm going
to see something from a terrible movie. At least it's
the best part of the terrible movie. But yeah, otherwise, like,
and I only fall into this on YouTube because I
don't have Instagram or TikTok or any of those others.
So it's just when I'm on YouTube, And I'll tell

(04:49):
you what always pulls me in, Ariel, Like almost every
single time, it'll be a cute animal video. That's what
pulls me in. And then I'll scroll down and then
next thing you know, it's Jackie Chan kicking someone in
the face.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
I mean, that's Jackie. Can't Chan is like a cute.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Animal, right, Like, yeah, a cue in the face.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
I'm not saying he's an animal, like he's a badass,
but you know he's just he's got such charisma, yes
he does, but uh but yeah, no, I I like
cute animal videos, although I don't like the ones where
it's someone rescuing an animal. I hate those. And Josh
Johnson his only I went to stand up this past year,
and that is only solidified for.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Me because because Ariel, as we all knowed, once, those
animals to continue to suffer.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
So no, just exact opposite.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I just that's like I sometimes I sometimes will start
those videos, but I will immediately go halfway in, so
it's past the the traumatic part and it's just the
animal discovering it's new life, and that that I enjoyed.
But yeah, I I too. I don't wanna like I

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can a appreciate the fact that an animal came from
bad circumstances, whether that was like you know, a breeding
situation or abandoned or injured or sick or whatever it
may be. But I can skip past those early parts
where like the animals clearly in the suffering stage and
just get to the part where it's healing.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, and then if like you're Josh Johnson did it
a whole stand up thing about it. I think there's
a video of it as well, but he did it
on the tour I saw where it's like you rescue
this wild animal and then it's like this is my
new home and I'm meeting Jarrito's and then you let
it out into the wild and then like there's a
video of a family like rescuing a squirrel and then
they let it out into the wild and a hawk
gets it, and it's like I hate that.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
No, No, I'm thinking more of like pet rescue. If
it's animal. If it's animal rescue stuff, then I only
will watch ones from like actual accredited like animal rehab groups.
I don't watch any of those. You know, I found
the bird that fell out, and I'm sure this bird
will be just fine. I like, no, that bird is

(07:04):
imprinted on you. That bird is not fine. Yeah, yeah,
that kind of thing like I don't watch those.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
I like wildlife rehab. I like because they're doing it right,
you know. And then I like other animal like other
cute animal videos for sure.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, like ones of like cats and dogs being silly.
I like the cats and dogs being Now. The problem
is that occasionally in those shorts, whoever puts those shorts together,
we'll sometimes put one in there where a cat or
dog will suffer a whoopsie, and it may be a
whoopsie that could have been quite painful. And I hate that. No,
just the silly stuff, not like oh see this cat

(07:44):
accidentally fell off the roof of a house. No, so
like the a.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Wall sail cat right, yeah, which I laugh at every
time now, but I had to first make sure that
cat was okay before I could laugh at that video.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Well, let's let's move away from Ariel's desire for animal
Abuse and go on to our question for this episode,
which is what are you excited for in twenty twenty six?

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Oh, my goodness, I'm excited for task Master season twenty one.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yes, which we will mention also in thirty seconds or less.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yes, I'm excited for the new season of The Pit,
which just dropped yesterday but I didn't get a chance
to start it and has already been renewed for season three.
Thank you. I'm I'm like, there's a bunch of stuff
we're going to talk about today that I am excited for,
so like, good luck, have fun, don't die, because that
just feels interesting and different.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, nothing that's like forefront of my brain other than
stuff that I've been watching that I'm like, Oh, I
need another season of this for sure.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, a lot of the stuff that I'm craving. I
know we're not gonna get this year, right, Like I
want another season of Severance, but I bet that's not
going to come out till next year, and Plural of Us,
which we know won't come out for a long time.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
So yeah. Emma Emma Sprinkle, who runs Famble Right, she
was at the Critic Choice Awards and she talked to both.
All of a sudden, their names are escaping me. But
the two lead actresses from flur of Us neither of
them knew when it was releasing either based.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Off her posts, So well, yeah, and I trust Emma.
I know Emma. She's good people, She works hard. I
got to hang out with her at south By Southwest
one year and that was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
She's really awesome.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yea, she does. She's really good at what she does
and has been for like a decade. So uh yeah, okay,
well those are those are good things. Among the things
I'm excited for, I'm excited to see Supergirl. I think, yes,
I think the trailer for Supergirl looks really interesting. James
Gunn is good at handling characters who are in some

(10:00):
way broken and Superman. You kind of see Superman get
a little broken in Superman, but when it starts out
like he's in a really solid place, Supergirl is not.
She is a mess from the get go, which you
know if you saw at the end of Superman spider

(10:20):
Man Brand New Day. I'm excited for because I really
want to see what they do considering the end of
the last spider Man movie, like how do they move forward?
Do they change any of that? Like they made a
pretty big swing in the last Spider Man movie, which
makes me wonder, like are those things going to stay put?

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah? Did you hear about I have some theories, but
only because of internet rumors that proved to be true.
Did you hear about the whole thing about Sadie Sink,
who played Max on Stranger Things? I heard being a
role based on internet speculation? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:59):
I heard that fans were speculating that she would be
offered a part, and then two days later she got
the call. I've also seen headlines though I haven't clicked
through to them about like who the supposed villain for
the movie is going to be, like which character it's
going to be, Things like the black Spider Suit potentially

(11:21):
making an appearance, which is interesting considering that there was
also the Venom films, which makes me wonder, are they
going to make the black suit and Venom? Is that
going to be a connection or No? Probably not, so
it would just be a black suit. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
I don't Yeah, I don't know either. I liked the
I've said this before, I liked the first Venom movie,
and then I just haven't watched any of the rest.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, I didn't. I never got into it. I was
so disenchanted with Sony launching a Spider Man spin off
franchise Universe that doesn't have Spider Man in it, and
I'm like, I don't I get that, spid you have
to kind of share with Disney slash Marvel, But is

(12:06):
so weird to see movies that have second tier Spider
Man characters carrying a film in a universe where Spider
Man is at most coyly acknowledged but never referenced.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, I mean, it is definitely a tall order. I
don't think it's impossible, but it is a mountain to climb.
And I feel like the worst part about that for me,
right is that if everything had been Venom level, it
would have been a woe hume But okay, universe.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, Venom was the high point.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Venom was the high point. And again I enjoyed it. It
was funny. It was not a great movie. It was
a fun movie. I put it along with like the
Ninja Turtle, the Michael Bay Ninja Turtles that are fun,
Like the plot's not great, but they're fun. But then
when you look at like and I didn't watch any
of these, but I have seen the clips of how

(13:04):
bad things like the adr are for like Madam Webb
and Morbius. Morbius, Yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Because in both of those you have extensive rewrites after
the movie has already been shot.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
And Craven and like, some of those movies feature actors
who just haven't been in anything that's really grabbed me yet,
and some of them feature actors who have been in
things that really have grabbed me. But I feel like
it's a disservice to all of them, right.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like Aullt. Of the three you mentioned,
Craven is probably the least bad. Really, Oh yeah, No,
Morbius and Madam Webb are easily way worse out of
the three. Like Madam Webb and Morbius are neck and
neck for some of the worst superhero stuff to have

(13:55):
been made by a major film studio in the last
ten years. And I put them like they're worse than
the Eternals. And I hated the Eternals, But but Craven,
as bad as it is, it's nowhere near as bad
I think as Morbius or Madam Webb.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
It's not you've watched all three of those I.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Have, Let's say I've scrubbed through because I could not.
I could not watch it minute for a minute. I
had to skip ahead in parts because I was just like,
this is so dumb. If I continue to watch it,
my brains will leak out of my ears. Well, other
stuff I'm excited for. I'm excited for clay Face, which
is about the DC villain, and it's already you know,

(14:41):
it's been revealed that it's going to be kind of
a body horror kind of film, which is intriguing to me.
It's a different sort of thing for DC, and so
I'm curious about that. And I'm excited about the new
Buffy the Vampire Slayer series, which we will chat about
briefly in the thirty seconds or less. I'm excited for
They Will Kill You, we'll also chat about in this

(15:01):
episode more. And I'm morbidly curious about Avengers dooms Day.
I wish I could say I was excited. I think
it was more excited when they did the reveal of
all the actor names on the back of the studio chairs.
That to me was really exciting. But we have now

(15:21):
Ariel and I have both seen and we'll talk a
little bit about the trailers for Avengers Doomsday that feature
Chris Sevans, you know as Steve Rogers, the one with
Thor and the one with the X Men, And we
were talking before we started recording that the more we see,

(15:41):
the less excited we are about this movie. Yeah, and
I had said that part of my problem is that
the previous two part Avengers movies, you know, Infinity Warren Endgame,
We're meant to be the payoff of all the films
that led up to it, right, You had like years

(16:03):
of movies and those two were the payoff. But the
problem as I see it now is that the more
recent Marvel films have been really a mess that it's
not been cohesive. We haven't even established Doom as a
villain yet. We've had one glimpse of him at the
end of Fantastic Four, so he hasn't really been established.

(16:26):
The character that was supposed to be established. We all
know that didn't work out because Kang ended up not
being a non thing after Jonathan Majors, So there's nothing
to pay off, and that's a big problem I think.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
I mean, there was the tiny bit of a tie
in in Thunderbolts, which I do think Thunderbolts is like
a step in the right direction for Marvel. I enjoyed
that movie.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah, yeah, I did too. I just I don't know
that just showing the Fantastic Four ship I don't think
is enough of a tie in, because there's no mention
of Doom in that either.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Right. Yeah, But the big thing for me is to like,
I'm fine with ort. We knew there was going to
be in it from the back of the chairs, right,
I'm excited to see how Loki ties in after season
two of the television show, things like did we know
that Chris Evans was going to be in it from
the chairs? I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Now, Chris Evans' name was not included when it did
the chair reveal.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
I feel like bringing him into it would be akin
to resurrecting Robert Downey Junior's Iron Man and I they
head ends to their stories, good, bad, bittersweet whatever, they
were tied up, and I'm ready for the next thing.
I don't want to keep rehashing the past.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah. Well, and that's the other thing that a lot
of fans are saying is that because Marvel kind of
dropped the ball pretty hard with the more recent films
that this seems to send the message of we're not
confident in our storytelling, so we're going back to the
things we know audiences love in order to get excitement.

(18:08):
And that's that's actually more distressing, right, because it's like, well,
what we want is for you to write stories that
are interesting with interesting characters and to build this this
mythology in a way that is worthwhile, and we just

(18:29):
don't feel like that's happened in the last few years,
like I do.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
But it was with Daredevil, and that was a continuation
of an existing pace.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Well yeah, and that's street level characters. Like you can't
do a big, like universe shattering like storyline with street
level characters.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
I did enjoy The Fantastic Four. I think it's one
of the best Fantastic Four movies that's been made since
what Roger Corman.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, yeah, which I mean depending on your yeah, you
may not think that was a very high bar to clear.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
I mean, admittedly that is that is a like a
cult classic level enjoyment, right.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
It's not amazing, but it is a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
No, it feels it feels very genuine and earnest, and
that's the best thing you can say about it.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah, but I do feel like the latest Fantastic Four movie,
it was fun, it felt different, and I think that's
why I enjoyed it so much, is because it felt different.
It felt like a new world.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, well, and it didn't. Another issue that sometimes happens
with Marvel is that they require movies to tie into
other properties, which you understand because it's they're trying to
create this big, interconnected universe, but it really ties the

(19:48):
hands of whoever is directing and writing those movies if
they're told, hey, you have to include a sequence in which,
you know, Thor sees the events of Rag the Rock
or whatever, which actually did happen in the Captain America movie.
So you know, it's just you see where the pitfalls

(20:11):
are and you see how badly Marvel fell into them.
And I enjoyed some of the movies and some of
the streaming series post Endgame, but I feel like I
enjoyed them individually, not as part of a bigger universe.
You know.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, maybe that's what excites me a little bit about well,
I don't know, I want to say it excites me
about what James Gunn has planned for the DCUM because
they aren't trying to make everything super cohesive. Now, Supergirl
and Superman aren't supposed to have the same vibe, but
they're obviously in the same world.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, so we'll.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
See how that works out and if that works out.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
But yeah, I think the idea of them all existing
within the same world is fine, and sidestepping the need
to have them interconnected is probably wise. Like when it
makes sense, sure, but otherwise, don't shackle everything with the

(21:12):
need to be connected to everything else, because as it
gets bigger, as we've seen with Marvel, as your universe
gets bigger, that's harder to maintain. And by the way,
this is the same thing that happened in the comic books,
Like every so often it just gets so convoluted and
confusing that they're like, all right, we're doing a control
all delete and resetting the universe. And that happens multiple times.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Well, and oftentimes it's successful, right at least.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
For a while, Yes, yeah, yeah, but then again, like
once it gets big enough and complicated enough, you have
to do it again.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah. So in theory, movies should be able to do
that too, But it's there's a different investment. Yeah, well
for both the audience and the creator.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
For yeah, especially when you've associated a specific actor with
a specific character, it's really hard to break out of that. Well,
moving on, because.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
We did we get through everything you're excited about.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Oh yeah, no, Well, I also wrote down various horror movies,
but I didn't apart from They Will Kill You, I
didn't note any specific titles. But let's talk about what
we've watched since the last time. For me, it's easy.
The only thing I've watched besides rewatching Superstore with Becca
is a fallout season two. I'm caught up on that.

(22:29):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
I haven't watched this week's episode.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yet, episode four.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, but I've caught up beyond to that.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Episode four is interesting. It's you see the the no
pun intended fallout from the end of episode three.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
I assumed, so, yeah, I'm really interested to see how
that goes. So I haven't watched that, but I have
been watching Task Master Australia. I put New Zealand in
our notes because my brain still hasn't switched over.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
And yeah, we did have already. You had already watched
task Master New Zealand though.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Right, yeah, yeah, there's a fifth season I think, or
sixth season, a sixth season that is not on YouTube,
so I don't have access to it. I tried, like
going to just watch dot com to find out where
I could see it, and I just can't find it yet.
So I I know some of our listeners don't enjoy
Task Master Australia. I'm enjoying it, but I'm also like,

(23:30):
it's not the OG, right, nothing is the OG the
UK version. I've watched episode five of The Mighty nine,
which got real dark and there was some animal cruelty
that I couldn't handle. It's cartoons, I mean, I can

(23:55):
tell you if you want to know what it was.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Was it the Bear?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
I don't know, no, no, So in mighty nine, one
of the main characters Caleb, and if you are if
you haven't already watched, it's been that if you haven't
already watched this as a spoilers skip ahead thirty seconds
or whatever. One of the main characters, Caleb has like
a magical companion called Frumpkin, which is a cat. You
find out because they changed the order of the story

(24:18):
in the cartoon versus the actual play. That he had
a real cat named Frumpkin, and when he was being
controlled by the bad guy, he set his house on
fire with his parents and his cats on the inside,
and they showed and audioed a bit too much of
that for me, and I just couldn't handle I can't nope, nope.

(24:38):
And it was a very dark and gruesome episode. It
wasn't u fun, but it was very dark, exceptionally dark,
which again with the actual play it's it is definitely dark.
They definitely deal with stuff, but because of the order
that it happens, in the order of discovery, it doesn't
feel so weighed down. M hm, Like I don't know,

(25:01):
I'm not a fan of having changed the order of things.
I know they did it so that, like narratively, it
might be easier to follow, but it's almost like, and
I'm still enjoying the show and I love the Mighty nine,
but it almost feels like they introduced the villain and
the problem without enough setup so that people can't care
about it, or at least the people I know who

(25:24):
are watching with me are like, Yeah, this is fine,
but I don't care about what's going on. I don't
have enough information. Yeah, And because they haven't watched the
actual play like I have. I've been watching a bunch
of Dalton Abbey. My household was sick over the weekend
and I had finished up all of the Gilded Age,
so I had watched Outon Abbey in the past. I

(25:47):
can consider it geeky because it's historical fiction. And I
stopped at season three because one of my favorite characters
dies at the end of season three and I'm like,
I don't want to deal with that. I'll just happy ending,
just like not watching the Firefly movie, right, but I'm
watching through now.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Okay, So she's a leaf on the wind.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
I am a leaf on the wind.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Watch how she soars? All right? Well, yeah, I'll say
this about Fallout season two, episode four, I can understand.
I've seen some discourse online about people concerned that the
Mojave wasteland feels much more empty than it does in

(26:32):
Fallout New Vegas. Now, keep in mind the TV series
takes place fifteen years after the events of Fallout New Vegas.
But I can sort of understand and somewhat agree with
some of the concerns because partly it's because like, if
you're not a fan, if you haven't played the games.

(26:53):
You don't know, so it's not a big deal. But
if you played the games, you're emotionally invested in some
of these places and characters because you spend a lot
of time around them, and to see things look much
more desolate and empty is it can be a little
frustrating because you're thinking to yourself, I spent so much

(27:15):
time saving that place for it to turn out like this,
what the heck? And I get it, Like, I understand,
I feel that too as someone who played the game.
I understand I'm still enjoying the show, but I also
understand those critiques. I don't disagree with them necessarily, but
I like to see where the show is still going.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
But I mean, like Fallout is one of those narrative
stories where the outcome depends on your choices.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Right, sure. Yeah, And they've said famously that they did
not want to pick any particular ending as canon, meaning
that yeah, you might have played New Vegas, you know,
heading for this specific ending, but the show chose a
different ending. They decide they wanted to choose by not choosing,

(28:03):
which I think is kind of a cop out honestly,
but it makes you sit there when you see what's
going on. You're thinking, Oh, the message this is sending
me since they didn't choose any particular ending to be canon,
is that it doesn't matter how it ends. It all
turns out like this anyway, Like whether you went with
ending one or two or three or whatever, it all

(28:25):
turns out like this. And that's a pretty darn bleak message.
So I have to turn that part of my brain off.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
People had that issue with the video game Mass Effect too.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
I knew you're gonna say Mass Effect. I knew it.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
I mean, but it's the same thing, like you're working
towards a certain goal and then none of that matters, right,
But it is like you just have to view it
as a different thing. This TV show, yeah, isn't the
video game. It's its own story. There is one other
thing in twenty twenty six I'm very much looking forward to.
I forgot to mention South of Midnight is getting a
PlayStation release.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Oh cool, Yeah, to play it. That's the one that's
set in like Louisiana and has a lot of folk
magic elements in it. And yeah, I love the animation style.
I remember when those trailers came out. I was just
absolutely entranced. I want to say that the reviews I
saw for the game were kind of just okay, Like

(29:21):
they weren't bad, but they weren't like gushing about it,
which is I think is a shame because I was like,
it's such a beautiful art style and it's such a
cool setting and concept that I was really pulling for it.
But I have not played the game, so I don't
have any personal response.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
The art style and the setting are enough to carry
a large portion of the weight for me, so I'm
still excited about it.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on
it once you get a chance to play it, because
it's one of those games I I wish I had played.
In fact, I guess I could still get the game
and play it. I just never play on the console anymore.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, I've been sharing, so for a while it was
just me playing on the PS five, but my husband
has been trying to finish up Final Fantasy seven Volume two,
and then got Expedition thirty three for Christmas.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
So Claire Obscira, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Won't be able to quite monopolize. I'm gonna have to share.
I'm gonna have to share.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
You're gonna have to wait like eighty hours for him
to finish Clare Obscurra.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
But well, thankfully he plays a lot of it after
I go to bed.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
So I've never been into JRPGs. And now, granted this
is a JRPG. That's a JRPG from France, so it's
a French Japanese role playing game, but I've never been
into that style. So like when that game started winning
all the awards, I was like, there's just a different
world out there, because these games have never appealed to me.

(31:00):
It's not to say it's not a great game.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Obviously, you let Bates. So what's the difference?

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Okay, Well, Baldersgate has a story that makes sense. That's
the big one. Also, like you know Baltersgate, it feels
a little bit more actioning even though it is technically
turn based, and I feel like I have more agency.
I just I don't know. I've usually found JRPG's to

(31:29):
be almost incomprehensible, Like I'll look at the story and
go like I've played this for hours and I could
not tell you what the heck is going on or
why I should care other than I'm just progressing in
number go up, and I get that's that's a fault
on me. That's not a fault on the games, because
obviously these games are incredibly popular, lots of people love them.

(31:52):
They just have never clicked with me. I've tried different
ones like Dragon Quest and you know, Final Fantasy and
all this kind of suf even ports of the Ultimate
Games which were moved over to like console systems. I
love the Ultimate Games on PC that was made by
Richard Garriott from Austin, Texas, but the ones that were

(32:15):
made for consoles were ported over to other companies that
made them more like JRPG's, and suddenly I couldn't play
them anymore. I'm like, oh no, oh, no, yeah, it's
just not for me. It's fine, it's for other people, gotcha?

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Because me, Yeah, I was like role playing game turn
based that sounds the same.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
No, no, no, I think JRPGs just have a totally
different vibe to me than other computer role playing game titles.
But I don't know. Maybe I'm just a fuddy duddy.
Well I am a fuddy duddy, there's no Maybe.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
I was looking forward to the eventual Nularian game because again,
I like Boulder Skate three quite a bit. I was
going to have some content in it that I don't
think I can handle.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
No, I don't know about it.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
It's like I think it's is it Oblivion.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
That's a Skyrim game, or rather.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
It's Divinity Divinity. So it's like, so it's like a
white fudge with like pecans in it.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
No, it's a I mean it's it's like a fantasy
world with elves and orcs and things like that. And
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yes, okay, oh.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Sure, if pecans are other elves, that.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
That's gonna horrify. We've got chopped up elves in this
white fudge.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yes, it is horrifying. So Divinity is not a game.
They had two games, had Divinity and then Divinity too,
and I never played either of them, just like I
never played any of the previous Balder's Gate and this
new one is an RPG. The trailer for it is
exceptionally disturbing. There's a lot of stuff that just upsets
me watching the trailer, and then I read about the
game and if it follows the first two divinities, even

(33:56):
though it's kind of its own thing, then yet some
of the elves get skills based off of cannibalism, and
that is not for me.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah. Yeah, we've we've established your your Uh yeah, you're
not big.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
On the That might be, I don't know. Maybe they'll
release more that'll make me more excited about it, But
right now I'm like, oh, I don't think. I don't
think this will be for me. That is so sad.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah. I haven't played any of the Divinity games either,
so like I was only familiar with Ballersgate three, I
had played the previous Bolterersgate games and my favorite character
was Minsk, who I have not yet encountered in Balder's
Gate three. Because I keep putting it down and never
going back to it. I need to. I need to
just stick with it. I need to.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Play with it and stick with it, keep putting it down.
Have you put it down more than once? Have? Like?
Have you revisited it?

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yes? I rolled up a whole new character and started
all over again because I didn't. I couldn't. I didn't
know what I was doing. When I loaded my original save,
I was like, I don't. I don't know where I
am or what's going on on or what I'm supposed
to do. I'm like I feel like I just need
to start over, and I feel like I could make
better choices. So I rolled up in all new and

(35:08):
then I did the same thing again. I didn't get
as far, I don't think, or maybe, yeah, I don't
think I got as far I think I got. I
don't think I even got into chapter two. So yeah,
I just need to I love that game, but I
just haven't played, haven't stuck through it. I think I
feel almost like the game would have been better if
it had come out as three games, each of the

(35:31):
each of the chapters had been its own game, because
I feel like that's the amount of content I can
comfortably go through and then I can put it down,
and then when the next one comes out, you know,
started off with a recap of what happened in the
first game and then pick up from there. Then I
would have been probably more accepting of it.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
But that's kind of what they've done with the new
Final Fantasy seven. With the Final Fantasy seven remake, there's
three volumes to it, yeah, exception of instead they've just
filled each, at least the second volume with so many
mini games.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Right. Yeah. I remember listening to the Besties podcast and
them talk about the final Fantasy games. Again, I never
got into them, so I didn't bother playing the remix
because I never played the originals either, But it was
interesting to hear them talk about where it diverted from
the original storyline and characters and stuff. It's a pretty

(36:32):
bold choice to kind of move away from the thing
that everybody loved in the first place. Right, Yeah, Well,
let's finally transition over to thirty seconds or less, because
we've got still a ton of show left, and we've
already been going for more than thirty five minutes, so

(36:53):
I believe I'm first, You are first. Okay, here we go.
Warner Brothers Discovery continues to say no thanks to Paramount.
The board of directors voted unanimously to stick with the
established Netflix deal, which still has to go through the
regulatory process. Whether it'll get through that process unscathe remains
to be seen. Because the Paramount deal evolves close allies

(37:14):
the US President, so who knows.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
It would definitely have to include lesson debt in the deal.
There has been rumor, I guess it's not so much rumor,
but Sabana Bastian Stan is in talks to join the
Batman too. We don't know as who yet, but the
current popular theory is Harvey Dent Slash two Face, which

(37:40):
looking at the picture, I'm like, he could play Joker,
but they already have someone playing Joker. It's just the
Sebastian Stan looks kind.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Of like Luke Skywalker to me, Mark Hamill, Mark Hamill.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Thank you. I knew it until I had to say
it and then it disappeared.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, Disney continues to mine their animated IP for live
action remakes and whether you think that's cool or a
cash grab. I've got some updates on the Tangled live
action film AUSSI. Eagan Croft has been tapped to play
Rapunzel and Milo Mannheim will be Flynn. But what really
has be excited is that Catherine Hahn is in talks

(38:16):
to play Mother Gothel and that's enough for me to
check it out.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
She would be very good in that role. Disney Plus,
we talked about this a little bit in the intro,
is adding vertical videos to their service. They're still open
to how exactly they're going to do that, whether it's
smaller clips of their existing media or new media or
social media stuff, but they want to make it a
seamless experience for people who are already using the app.

(38:42):
I don't know how else scroll through vertical videos on
my TV. That's how I use the app.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
We mentioned the Critics' Choice Awards earlier. Well, a lot
of geeky properties did well there. Jacob A. Lordi won
for Frankenstein, Amy Madigan for Weapons, Miles Caton Or Sinners,
Tremel Tillman for Severance, and Ria Seorn for plur of Us.
They all took home awards plus Centners won for Best
Original Screenplay. The song Golden from K Pop Demon Hunters

(39:11):
won award. It's just it's good to be geeky, y'all.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
The thing that I am very excited about Kamil Nanjianni
is Kamil Nanjianni is joining the cast of Task Master
for series twenty one, which will be out this spring,
more than likely because they released the series in the
spring and the series in the fall, making the Sex
the Second not the Sex the Second US contestant that
lives in the US. They've had another US contestant, but

(39:37):
she was living in the UK at the time, and
in interviews with Kamil, he's mentioned that US agents and
such don't really understand the appeal, and in fact, his
lawyer was like, why are you doing this? You're gonna
lose money. But he had a great time filming it,
so I look forward to watching it.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, yeah, No. He had such glowing things to say
about his experience that I'm really excited about that. Game
producer mottoy Okamado said that plans for the Silent Hill
video game series are pretty darn ambitious. So they released
the remake of Silent Hill two in twenty twenty four,
and then the new game Silent Hill F last year

(40:16):
twenty five. The plan now is to release a new
game about once a year, which is kind of like
the old Assassin's Creed strategy or the current Call of
Duty one. Well, my question is is that hell ever
gonna make any noise?

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yes, but only in your dreams uh. Vilma, that wonderful
cartoon ended two years ago, But that's not the end
of Scooby Doo. It's getting another spinoff called Stu. And
I was being sarcastic about the Velma cartoon. I did
not like it. No offense if you did. They're making
a new spin off called Scooby Doo Go Goku Goku

(40:54):
g O kko I should have looked up how to
say it. Anyhow, it's gonna launch in twenty twenty seven.
It's said to be similar to Tom and Jerry Gaku,
but we haven't gotten the art from it released yet.
Tom and Jerry Goku looked very cute, like the art
is super cute.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Well, Tom Cruise dropped by the set for Star Wars
Starfighter and took up an invitation from Sean Leevy to
shoot a lightsaber duel sequence for the film. Now, to
be clear, Cruz was the one positioning the cameras and whatnot,
so he won't suddenly be dual wielding red and blue
sabers or something. But this does tell us we're gonna
get some lightsaber action and Starfighter. It's not all hot

(41:35):
shot pilots.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
I guess they're going to just be a whole bunch
of X Wings with lightsabers on the edge of the
wings like that.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yeah, just lightsabers duct tape to the end of.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Yeah, yes, yes, And then the X Wings are going
to do like some sort of like rhythmic gymnastics sort
of fighting to hit each other with him. So after
the two hour final episode of Stranger Things dropped. Fans
have been going insane, So there was a rumor that
has now been proved proved false, although I was like,

(42:09):
ninety nine point nine sure it was false anyhow, that
it was the end episode was not actually the end episode.
Now their final final episode was going to drop on
January seventh. This conspiracy was called conformity gait. The whole
thing is that VECNA fooled everybody into believing they won,
but actually VECNA won, And it's a horrible, sad ending.

(42:30):
I don't know why fans would want that more. I
like happy endings and I'm glad Like even Netflix is
like all episodes are available for streaming. Now, this is
not true. Please stop.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah, yeah, don't believe everything you read on the internet. Well,
the new Buffy the Vampire Slayer series has a subtitle
New Sunnydale. Fans will remember that the old sunny Dale
was essentially swallowed in a hell mouth. But a quarter
century has passed since then, Holy cowam mold, and it's
about time to rebuild. There probably won't be as many

(43:05):
malls this time around. I imagine the new show is
a continuation of the world established in the original series.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
I want to watch it. Lastly, we got a first
look at a film that is coming. Is it coming
to Amazon? Oh? I forgot that already. I know. There's
a film coming out called The Bluff. It's it follows
Preanca Chopra Jonas's character, a female former pirate whose crew

(43:33):
is coming after her because she left the life, because
apparently that's the one thing that pirates can't forgive in
this world. It's rated R. It's yeah, it's on Prime.
It comes out on February twenty fifth, and it is brutally,
brutally violent. It also has Keith Urban in it.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah, Carl Urban.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Carl Man. If I had Keith Urban, that would be interesting.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Though, Yeah, you pulled a Jonathan there. Usually I'm the
one who's said is the wrong name, But yeah, Keith
Urban as a singing pirate would be pretty amazing.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
It's like the gritty reboot of Pirates of Penzance.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, so no, Carl Urban is so this confused me
when I first looked at it. It was an article in Esquire.
We'll have it in the show notes. But when I
first looked at it, I saw a picture of Urban
as the antagonist, and he's holding a revolver and I'm like,
wait a minute, he's a pirate Revolvers weren't really a

(44:29):
thing till the eighteen thirties. And then in the article
it says it's set in the late eighteen hundreds, and
I'm like, virus is not really especially in the Caribbean,
is not really a thing at that point.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
But okay, they also say that it's almost more mafia like.
The article says that it's also leans more towards like
mafia vibes that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Like organized crime, like piracy as organized crime, which I
guess you could argue a pirate ship is an organized
crime type of thing, but it's just in very small
scale mobile.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah you know. Or yeah, I was going to say
something clever, but it wasn't clever, So yes, mobile organized crime.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
I mean, I'm still interested to see it. I love
piracy type stuff, so I'll probably check it out, but
it like knowing that the setting and all that kind
of stuff makes me a little less interested. This had
been set during like the golden age of piracy at
the end of the seventeenth century, then I would have
been much more interested. But then the East India Company
wouldn't make any sense because they were, as the name implies,

(45:33):
really focused on East India and not on the West Indies.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Take that, Pirates of the Caribbean.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Take it, Take it and don't run with it. Yeah,
that's that's all we have for fifty seconds or less
seconds or less a minute or so maybe Keith.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Urban sing along thirty seconds or less. Let's talk about
stuff that we have in our lineup that doesn't quite
fit the geeky, you know, genre stuff. First up, we've
got a trailer for Malcolm in the Middle Life's still unfair.
The series' premieres on April tenth. What did you think

(46:16):
of the trailer?

Speaker 1 (46:18):
So? I was iffy on it coming out right, because
sometimes more of a good thing, more pizza does not
always equal more happy, as my friends group sometimes says.
But the trailer looks really cute. It gives me very
much the same vibe of the original show, which I

(46:39):
enjoyed quite a bit. Is definitely a very goofy, slapstick
kind of comedy that is maybe not the the crux
of comedy currently, but it also felt like new story
being told, so it didn't just feel like, oh, yeah,
I've seen that episode. Oh I've seen that episode. I'm
exceptionally excited for it. I think I just need that
kind of goofy happy in my life right now.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah, And you also get the feeling that Malcolm, in
order to preserve his sanity, has largely sequestered himself away
from his family and now is forced to be drawn
back in and thus insanity begins to accumulate once more.
And that's interesting too because that could have some like
actual drama associated with it.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
It could, and it also fits with his character. He
was always the one who was kind of embarrassed by
his family and trying to get away, right Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
He was the most normal out of all of.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Them, which is not saying too much. But I think
Dewey's not coming back, but the rest of the family is.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
So that's exciting. But are you looking now to make
sure that you have the right person. It's Keith Urban's
not coming back for Malcolm in the Middle.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Keith Urban. Oh shut up, I'm just gonna.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Fit Keith Urban and does as many stories as I can.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
It is Dewey and he's not coming back. The problem
is I also watched The Middle, which is a different
show but a very similar concept. I also enjoyed The Middle,
so I was like, is Dewey from Dewey is from
Malcolm in the Middle. No, maybe he's from the Middle.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
I'll tell you this, Like, there's enough sitcoms that follow
like large families or even multiple families where they're they're
not all that similar to each other, but it's similar
enough for me to mix them up. And that includes
Malcolm in the Middle, The Middle, and Modern Family. I
never watched Modern Modern Modern Fairy. No, I didn't watch

(48:40):
Modern Fairy either. Okay, let's move on.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Actually, it looks like Dewey will be returning, but they've
recast him.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Ah, gotcha, so new actor. Well, next up, we got
a trailer for a film coming to Amazon Prime on
January twenty eighth, so that's pretty soon. Is called The
Wrecking Crew. I don't know how I hadn't heard about this,
but it's got Jason Momoa in it and Dave Batista
in it as half brothers, and it's sat in Hawaii

(49:12):
and there's yakuza. Stephen Root is in it, and I
love Stephen Root, and like the whole trailer is goofy,
over the top action comedy, and I don't know, I
kind of dug it. What did you think?

Speaker 1 (49:28):
I also kind of dug it. I feel like this
is maybe something where if like we had read the
log line and no names were attached yet, yeah, we
might have been like a generic action movie. Yeah yeah, yeah.
The brothers come together I think because of the mysterious
death of their father.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Yeah. Yeah, their father appears to be killed in a
hit and run accident, but Jason Momoa's character, who is
a cop, suspects that it was actually murder.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Yeah. Even still like action with Jason Momoa and Dave Bautista,
I'm like, okay, sure, yes, Stephen Root has I've always
liked Stephen Root, but he blew my mind as a
performer in Barry Right.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Just yeah, oh, it's a masterclass. He's phenomenal, phenom.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
I mean, everybody in that was phenomenal. That show, like
on the dual levels of being a great like crime
drama and then also all of the meta with acting
and all of the comedy. It was just brilliant.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Well and the fact that he his character I think
changes more than any other character on that show.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Yeah right, Yeah, and just some really funny and some
really moving and some really scary moments. So brilliant. So
like you put Stephen Root on it, and I'm like, yes,
but like the concept itself doesn't super appeal to me,
and Dave Bautista and Jason Momoa have done enough like
action stuff that I've been meh on. Yeah, but the
trailer does look fun.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
It actually kind of reminds me of the nineties action
comedies but updated so it doesn't feel like a dated
version of that. But it feels like it's got that
same kind of spirit to it, something like Lethal Weapon, right,
but obviously even more grandiose and action oriented than Lethal

(51:17):
Weapon was. But that's what really appeals to me too.
So I'm hopeful for this one. I think it looks
like it's a good time and we don't have to
wait too long. Like I said January twenty eighth, it's
on Amazon, So I hope to enjoy this when it
comes out.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
And then when you remind me that you've watched it,
I will watch it.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
I totally forget something that I don't think you'll watch
as apex.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
No, which is said I like Taron Taron Egerton, but
who plays the villain in this movie?

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Yeah, that Charlie's theon plays the hero.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Yeah, and I like her too, though I have watched
less of her stuff. Surprisingly, Yeah, you say it looks
like a variation of the Most Dangerous Game, which is
also something I've not watched. But it's yeah, people hunting people.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Most Dangerous Game is a reference
to you know, humans are the most dangerous game to hunt, Like,
That's what the whole plot of the Most Dangerous Game is.
You've got this big game hunter who strands a bunch
of people on an island and then starts to hunt them.
We've seen variations of that so many times. This looks
like yet another one. Charlie's there, thron is playing a

(52:31):
character who she's a rock climber and so kind of
already really in great shape and everything, and Egerton's character
wants to hunt her. And so it comes out April
twenty fourth. It's a Netflix movie, so this will be
on Netflix. You'll be able to watch it if you're
subscribed to that series that platform. Yeah. I I don't

(52:57):
know that there's enough here to make me want to
watch it, simply because I've seen this kind of story
played out so many times.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Yeah, yeah, not for me. The next thing, though, is
potentially for me, and I didn't think it would be.
There's another movie coming out called is a movie or
a series series? Oh? I thought it was a movie.
I thought for sure. I looked this one up and
it was a movie.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Darn.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
It's a series called Memory of a Killer. Yeah, where
there there's a guy who's a hit man, who lives
a double life, as many hitmen do. Right, you've got
your professional life and then your personal life.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Yeah, if it turns out if you walk around saying
I'm a hit man, it's real hard to navigate through society.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Yeah. And then he ends up being diagnosed with a
memory disorder. I don't know if it's Alzheimer's or something
like that, but it starts blurring the lines, and that
to me is an interesting concept on this hit man story.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yeah, it's so interesting that there's been two movies that
have been like this in recent years. But there was
one I hadn't paid.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
I've forgotten about them.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
There was one with Michael Keaton and there was one
with Liam Neeson. And but yeah, there's been other movies
that have played with this about like someone in a
very dangerous profession that relies upon being exceedingly careful undergoing
mental deterioration and the pressure that puts on them as

(54:26):
they try to secure as much as they can in
their lives in an inherently insecure, you know, occupation.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Yeah, so, I honestly had forgotten about those two movies.
Neither of them stuck in my brain. I don't know
if it's because Patrick Dempsey is starring in this one,
and he was the dad and Enchanted. I know he
was also in Gray's Anatomy. I never watched Gray's Anatomy.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Gina Torres also is in this series, and you know,
she's for you Firefly fans out there. She's she's got
her own strong geek roots. This comes out January twenty fifth.
The first episode drops on January twenty fifth on Fox.
I think it will also be on Hulu. So that's

(55:09):
it does look good. Like I don't mean to downplay
the fact that this idea has also been explored in
recent media. I think that's fine if they're able to
do it in a way that's compelling and interesting, And
it looks to me like this trailer like they've done that.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Yeah, the trailer looked good to me. It looked like
it had a good balance of action and intrigue and
heart honesty.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Next up, we also have another mini series. This is
coming out on Prime and it's called Steel Sta l
as in like thievery and whatnot. And it features Sophie
Turner playing an office worker and some criminals break into
her place of business and force her at gunpoint to

(55:57):
transfer a truly ginormous amount of money to them, and
then she gets all wrapped up in the crime. Like
she's suspected by law enforcement. The robbers themselves are kind
of after her as well. You kind of start to
question whether she did have any involvement based on this
trailer anyway. Like I'm like, I can't tell if she's

(56:17):
truly like innocent or was actually part of it through
the whole thing. I don't know. But this comes out
on January twenty first, and all six episodes will be
released at the same time on Prime, so you know
you won't have to wait week to week. You can
just binge it if you want to.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
I think I am more interested in Memory of a Killer.
But Steele doesn't look bad. It looks like a fun
roll for Sophie Turner.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Yeah, it looks like it's another action oriented series. And
I like heist stories typically, so maybe I'll check this out.
I'll at least probably check out the first episode and
see if I want to stick with it.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Yeah. The next thing we got was a trailer for
The Rip, which is Goodwill Hunting Goes Bad Boys.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Yeah. Yeah, it's Ben Affleck and Matt Matt Damon uh
In in this movie, as well as people like Steven Ewan,
Sasha cal you know, a former Supergirl, Scott Adkins, the
martial arts guy, uh and former Batmanuel Nestor Carbonel isn't
it I love Yeah, I love him too. He's great.

(57:27):
Uh So yeah, they're they're in this this film about
cops in Miami who come across a massive stash of
money and then there's like all this distrust among the
cops about like are we sure that no one's gonna
take this? Like that's why they call it the rep.
The rep is the the money that has been discovered,

(57:51):
and so there's a lot of like intrigue and suspicion
on beh behalf of the cops who worry that someone
might pocket some of this money because no one expected
to find it. So, you know, it's Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
It's apparently based off of or inspired by a true story. Interesting,
that's some narcotics, cop law enforcement. Yeah, this one also
comes out very soon. It's on January sixteenth on Netflix.
So this one doesn't look like my kind of thing. Like,
I'm not big into cop dramas typically, but Matt Damon

(58:25):
and Ben Affleck typically do pretty good work, so especially
when they're working together. Yes, yeah, it excites. So this
is not my kind of movie. Hey, Ariel, complete a sentence, please,
This is not necessarily my kind of movie. I have
watched things like Bad Boys and stuff like that, and
I do occasionally watch police drama or organized crime stuff.

(58:49):
But I know that I think I mentioned this before
in like Matt Damon's last Hot Ones interview, he mentioned
how there wasn't a place for the smaller budget like
Cetterhouse Rules, Good Will Hunting kind of movies anymore. That
was all big blockbuster and I love to see that
we're going back to those. I mean, this is definitely

(59:11):
an action movie, but it's not a giant blockbuster budget
giant budget movie.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
You know. Yeah, it's not one where like you know,
you're going to have an explosion that you can see
from half a mile away.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Yeah, it doesn't use all of the pyrotechnics in Australia.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Yeah, I think. I think that some of the streaming
services are serving as the home for those mid budget projects,
which is both good and bad, right, Like, there's bad
stuff with that too, the large one being that, well,
you've got to be subscribed to that service in order
to be able to see it. You can't just go
to the theater and catch it, right, So that's kind

(59:48):
of a bummer. But at the same time, like a
lot of those mid budget movies, depending upon what market
you lived in, you might not be able to see
them anyway, just because there wouldn't be a theater inconvenient
driving distance that would be showing it. I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
One of the good things that the the if Netflix
and Warner Brothers, if that deal goes through, right, is
that Netflix has said that they will commit to putting
movies in theaters. The downside is they want to make
it a shorter run time. Yea, yeah, so it goes
to streaming so sooner, which is not great because a
lot of movies make a lot of their money, like

(01:00:23):
it does usually not always, but it does tend to
have like the biggest punch of income at the opening right,
and then it gradually dwindles and sometimes it'll get like
a resurgence in the middle. But you know, a lot

(01:00:44):
of movies, so I've started subscribing to some industry news,
and a lot of movies have been making more money
than they've spent recently, which is great. Theater movie revenue
overall has declined this year from last year, but imax
revenue has gone super big. But the few things that
Netflix has released into the theaters I think has done

(01:01:05):
have done really well. Stranger Things sold out and it's
two days. They've released K Pop Demon Hunters twice, so
wake Up dead Man, Yeah, yeah, Frankenstein. I don't know
how Frankenstein did, but the rest I know did really well.
So maybe maybe Netflix will end up being an avenue

(01:01:25):
to get these smaller films, at least for a short
amount of time, into theater, and maybe that will The
problem is with these like mid level movies, it could
either mean that they get everybody going at once and
it's successful, or by the time people learn about it,
like I'm just now hearing about the rip, it's too
late and they've lost a bunch of money. It's a

(01:01:46):
very it feels like a big gamble to me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Yeah, yeah, uh, rounding out are stuff what doesn't fit.
We've got a two part documentary. We've mentioned this before,
but there's a two part documentary part drops on January
twenty second on HBO about mel Brooks, titled mel Brooks
the ninety nine year Old Man. We got a trailer
for this, and what did you think of the trailer?

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Okay, first of all, I think that the trailer looked
very good. I think it looks engaging. You know, it's
nice to to get to see mel Brooks talk about
his life and what he shared and what he hasn't shared,
and what's his inspiration is, because he's inspired a whole
bunch of people as well. Two, I think it does
fit into our regular show notes because melbrook No, because

(01:02:35):
mel Brooks is like the father of so many geeky
cult classics like Frankenstein and Spaceballs and.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
You know, the like menon Tights and Dead.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
I was gonna say Dracula didn't love a it, but
I don't think that one did as well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Listen, if we're talking about classics, I will allow Young
Frankenstein and begrudgingly allow Spaceballs. I will not allow Men
and Tights. I enjoyed menon Tights, but I think it's
inferior to Spaceballs.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
I loved it when it came out and I watched it.
I tried to rewatch Men and Tites recently was rough.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Yeah, I can rewatch Young Frankenstein anytime.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Yes, yes, that's great. And I only watched Spaceballs for
the first time last.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Year, so, oh wow. I enjoy Spaceballs, but it's and
I'm looking forward to the sequel, which also should be
coming out. Maybe not this year, maybe it's next year,
but I'm looking forward to that. I would if it
does come out this year, that would be one of
the ones I would put at the top of the
show about one something excited about.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
So I had seen bits and pieces of space Balls,
but I only watched it in its entirety this year.
I am looking forward to it as well. Melbrooks has
enough hits that yeah, I think I'll enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
I'm looking forward to this documentary. You know, the bits
that we saw of present day mel Brooks talking about
his life. I mean, the man is still funny and
he's still very like self deprecating and silly, and that's
encouraging as well. Plus, you know, there's tons and tons
of interviews with all these figures in comedy talking about

(01:04:17):
what a huge influence he has been on them, and
that's really cool. So I'm looking forward to it. I
really liked the two part documentary about Paul Rubins akap
Wee Herman, so I'm looking forward to seeing this one too.
Like I said, it comes out January twenty second on HBO.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
I have so many documentaries about people I need to watch.
I need to watch the John Candy one. I need
to watch the guy who played Ernest Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Yeah, yeah, I need to watch Jim Varney. Jim Varney. Yeah,
I need to watch those two.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Yeah. So this one I want Paul Rubins. I know
that's going to be a sad one. I know it's interesting,
but I haven't been able to bring myself to watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
It's also cool because he he is a difficult person
to interview, like he is purposely being difficult, and it's
not entirely it's not necessarily in a malicious way. It's
like very mischievous, but it's there's an edge to it too, right,

(01:05:16):
Like it's not just playful. There's something back there too,
and that to me was fascinating and I really enjoyed
that documentary. Like I wouldn't say it's the easiest watch,
but I think it was really intriguing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Yeah, I do want to watch it. I just I
have to like steel myself to do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Oh yeah, no, you got to be in a mood totally.
I get it. There's no disagreement here. Well, it's that time,
y'all the time for us all to turn slightly to
the left, walk forward to that dusty corner that doesn't
get enough light. That floorboard is gonna creak something awful
as we get close to opening. John Boys, Horror Hutch

(01:05:58):
come on in with me. First of all, Ariel, did
you watch any of the trailers?

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
I tried. I also just tried to put a squeaky
floorboard in, but I don't know if it worked.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
I can I can do that in post. I have
the sound effects. It's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
I like that you were doing live folly.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
I like doing live fully occasionally. I don't know if
it picked up. So I did see They Will Kill
You because it came on like as a commercial break
on something else I was watching, and it interested Tony
and I both enough that we just didn't skip it. Yeah,
the other three I attempted to watch and then noped

(01:06:40):
out of all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
That's fair. All right, Well, let's let me start by talking.
I want to talk about these first two because I
feel like they are somewhat linked thematically. They're not, they're
not the same story or anything, but they have themes
that they share. So the first one is called self Help. Now,
this is the one that I would say I'm less
interested in personally. It's a screen box film, meaning that

(01:07:05):
it's streaming on screen Box, which I don't subscribe to,
so I would have to do that first to watch it.
But self Help looks like it's a fairly low budget film,
still looks like it's well shot, at least. The log
line is a young woman infiltrates a dangerous self actualization
community after her mother becomes entangled, but its enigmatic leader.

(01:07:28):
So kind of a cult film. This idea of like
getting inspiration from some charismatic leader who's telling you how
to best live your life. That resonates with me because
I work in the podcast realm, and honestly, there's a
ton of podcasts that are in this field. Like it's

(01:07:48):
the same field where all the like public speakers dominated
during the nineties and the two thousands, right, ye, they're
now kind of doing that in the podcast. They still
do like book tours and all that kind of stuff too,
So that sort of appealed to me. But the more
I watched it, the more I was like, maybe this
is just a badly made trailer. But it feels a

(01:08:08):
little jumbled and not not very clear to me. Some
of that was just literally the sound mixing, where I'm like,
I can't understand what that person is saying. But anyway,
I want to contrast that that's out right now, by
the way on screen box, I'm gonna contrast that with
Honey Bunch. This this looks amazing to me, Like, this

(01:08:33):
looks like it is gonna be a hard watch, Like
I would put this up with someone like Midsommer as
being a hard watch. But it's about a couple. The
wife was in a coma and has woken up. Her
husband is caring for her as she is in recovery,
and he takes her to an experimental care facility, and

(01:08:56):
during that process, the woman either starts to unlock memories
or is hallucinating things that indicate there's some really dark
stuff about her marriage and life, and so it's a
little bit of unreliable narrator element going on here, at
least in the trailer, where I can't be sure if

(01:09:16):
she really has experienced these things or if she just
believes she has because she's it's revealed she has brain
damage and she's really scared that she'll never recover from it.
So it looks really intense, and to me, it resonates
more than Self Help Dead, which is exploring kind of

(01:09:37):
similar themes. This one comes out February thirteenth, and I
would be very interested to see it. I don't know
if it's gonna live up to what I'm expecting based
on the trailer, but I like the trailer, and then
I have They Will Kill You. This is the one
that you saw at Stars Zazzi Beats, and it looks bonkers,
but in the best way.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Yeah, Honestly, I think from the director of it appealed
to Tony and that's what first kept our appearance. But
then it's got Patricia Arquette doing her weird severance accent.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Yes, I have that. Patricia Arquette is being extremely severancy, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
And an amazing cast, and it feels there is there
is the one that the sequels coming out ready or
not ready or not? Yeah, and it feels a lot
like that. It almost though, feels cheekier to me. It
almost feels closer to like a kill Bill style movie.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Yeah. So my my pitch for this movie would have
been imagine ready or not except that the proposed victim
is incredibly capable and a total badass. Because that's the
that's the premise, is that Zazzi beats. She has taken
on a job as a maid at this building called
the Virgil and is uh it's a hotel. Yeah, I'm

(01:11:00):
not sure if it's a hotel, for it's supposed to
be like an apartment building. It looks like it's a hotel,
like that's what looks like. It doesn't look like an
apartment building. But the residents of this place have made
a pact with the debil, and the pact with the
devil is that when the rent is due, they have
to do a human sacrifice. I mean, rent is killer

(01:11:21):
in New York. Let's not beat around the bush is killer.
So it's just literal in this sense where they have
to kill someone and that's their rent control, I guess
which would be hilarious. I'm totally on board for that.
And Zazi beats His character is unknowingly supposed to be
the next victim, except it turns out she can really
fight back, and the trailer just has her kicking all

(01:11:45):
sorts of but while numerous residents of the building try
to kill her. And the supporting cast is great, like
Heather Graham and Tom Felton are in it, and we've
already mentioned Patricia Arcuat and it looks very high energy
kind of horror action comedy genre. It comes out March

(01:12:08):
twenty seventh. I will probably try and see this. I
don't I'm not expecting it to be great, but I'm
expecting it to be very entertaining.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
I want to see it. I have to do the
like the Common Sense media review, so I know what
kind of horror I'm in for.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
First, Well, you know, at least one person gets their
hand cut off, because it happens in the trailer, and
one person gets split right down the middle, like top
to bottom down the middle.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
But that the way that happened in the trailer was
not gruesome at.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
All, No, it was It was done more as a
comedy beat than a horror beat, and I'm totally cool
with that. Like, I feel like this is a horror
comedy action movie where the comedy stuff is leaning into
the horror, but without it being overtally gruesome. But that's

(01:13:02):
also just what we saw on the trailer. Who knows
what happens in the actual movie. And finally we have
what I think looks like the scariest of the movies
that I saw trailers wore this week, which is the undertone.
This is an independent horror movie out of Canada. Yeah,
very scary. Also hits us close to home because it's

(01:13:22):
about a podcaster.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Which is why I nope, doubt because that one time
you were editing and there was that weird thing. You're like,
there's this weird voice in there.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Oh yeah, and I played it for you. Yeah that
we never figured out where that voice came from. I'm
sure it was just one of us saying something and
somehow it got warped. But yeah, there was like a
really weird, like distorted voice in one of our recordings
once and I never did figure out where it came from. Anyway,

(01:13:54):
This is this is about a podcaster. She it's funny
because years ago friend of the show Shite suggested that
she and I do a paranormal podcast where I would
be the skeptic and she would be the not believer,
but someone who's more prone to thinking something might have
some relevance and reality to it. And I'm a hardcore

(01:14:15):
skeptic none of that. I don't believe in any of it.
So she wanted to do this show like that. Well,
this sounds like the main character is the skeptic of
a pair like that who are doing a paranormal podcast.
She's working out of the home of her mother who
is very ill and is dying, and then creepy stuff

(01:14:36):
starts to happen, And a lot of the scary stuff
in this movie is sound based, Like it's all about
really really creepy sound design. There's creepy visuals too, but
the sound design is the big part of it. So
I would say that if you are interested in the undertone,
you should see it either in a theater that has

(01:14:57):
really good sound or if you're watching it at home
where headphones, because it looks to me like the kind
of movie where those sound cues are going to be
where a lot of the creeps come in comes out
March thirteenth. I am extremely interested in seeing this.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
I look forward to your review. I think it'll be
a little too scary for me again without knowing what's
going to happen. But I am excited about movies that
really focus on, you know, sound design, and some of
the big budget ones when they win for sound design,
I'm like, why because it felt very uneven to me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Yeah, I mean my favorite I think my favorite movie
moment of twenty twenty five was a soundqe in Weapons.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
There was a sound q in Weapons, And I've said
this before. When I saw it in the theater, my
whole the audience in the theater, everybody went ah. And
it was a sound cue. You weren't You couldn't see
it on the screen, but everyone knew what it was.
And I'm like, oh, this is this is masterful movie making.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Nice Nice. I still need to see Weapons.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
It's so good. It's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
It is at the top of my list every time
in my home, and I'm like, we should watch a movie.
Do you want to watch Weapons? I don't know if
I feel like horror right now.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
I will say that it's got a bunker's ending that
will definitely turn things around for you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
I mean, I think I know what happens, but also
like I kind of knew some of the plot.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Already, so yeah, oh not everyone had a chance to
read stuff ahead of time.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
It's not a brag, Like anybody who auditioned for that
got a chance to read some stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Right, So yeah, you were good for those who do
not know. At one point, Ariel was auditioning for the character.
If you saw the trailers, you saw a mother stabbing
yourself in the face with a fork. That could have
been Aeriel.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
But I've heard the movie is amazing, so I am
certain that that actress who they did pick.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Oh yeah, no, it's better than a fork in the eye.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's it for the horror hutch.
Let's close that dusty door behind us and step out
into the sunlight.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
It sounds good, Well, so let's start off with something cheerful.
I didn't mean for this, but now that I'm looking
at the lineup, what's first on our list? It really
the first two things we're gonna probably spend very little
time on because we've actually talked about both of them
already on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
The first is we got a full trailer for Good Luck,
Have Fun, Don't Die, which is the Sam Rockwell correct
movie where he travels through time to get people to
help him fight against AI that is taking over the
world in like virtual reality and stuff like that. Yeah,
you're making a face. Did I get that wrong?

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
No? No, you're right, that's right, Like I think that
in large part, this is a movie that is a
commentary on screen time, like how much time we spending
on our devices, but it's projecting it to this thing
about like a VR headset that essentially enslaves humanity. And

(01:18:10):
so Sam Rockwell says he's from the future and he
comes to this diner to create a group of people
who will save the world. And we talked about this
in previous episodes where we had the teasers and stuff.
This one we got a little bit more of a
look at the technology they're trying to prevent.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
Yeah. Also it gave us a little bit more of
the plot. So there's definitely like a gritty, more realistic
through line. Because the first trailer or the teaser felt
very like everything everywhere all at once, just completely zany
can't get your bearing, And this one feels like there
might be enough time to like get a breather and
know where you are.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Yeah. Yeah, the first one was really there to capture
your attention. This one is telling you a bit more
of what's going on. Zazzi Beats is also in this,
so she's killing it this year.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
I mean, she's great. She is, and I agree. It
does seem like it's commentary on screen time, even to
what you were saying earlier, where you get such small
bites you don't know what's real and what's not and
what's been so heavily edited. Right, Yeah, there's a lot
of talking the trailer about is this real? Is this reality?

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Yeah? And this comes out February thirteenth, so we don't
have to wait that long, you know, just in time
for Valentine's Day.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Yes, I might might sue it for Valentine's Day.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Yeah, this looks like it's fun. I want to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Yeah, and I love Sam Rockwell and yeah, he's great. Okay,
the beauty trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Yeah, we talked about the teaser for this not long ago,
so we don't need to spend much time. But this
is the Ryan Murphy series that is based off a
I can't remember if it was a manga or a book.
But anyway, it's based off a maybe it was a
graphic novel. It was based off a previous story, and
in this trailer it's actually revealed, like before we thought

(01:19:53):
that Ashton Kutcher is playing this billionaire company leader who
comes up with a drug makes people young and beautiful
but at a tremendous cost, Like it's it's a deadly
kind of thing later on. Uh, and then the original
story it was a sexually transmitted disease, and this trailer
reveals that, Oh it still is. You know that's revealed

(01:20:16):
in the trailer. It's just I guess he's also distilled
it into a drug that they're now selling to people.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
It seems like maybe it's started as the drug and
then it morphed.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Into maybe maybe it's the other way around. I thought
it was. I thought it was an STD that they
then turned into a pharmaceutical product, but the way around. Yeah,
either way, it's it's not great and and people go
nuts and things go crazy, and this is the one
that has the the eyepatch wearing assassin and lots of

(01:20:48):
other crazy stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
Yeah. So, like the teaser made it feel almost like
like a comic bookie superheroe sin City kind of a thing.
This trailer makes it feel a little closer to like
Americans horror story kind.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Of yeah, which makes sense because it's Ryan.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
Murphy yeah storytelling, which I like less. Yeah, so I
think a little less into this now.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
It looks real trashy, yeah, which again it's kind of
Ryan Murphy's bread and butter. I I might try and
watch the first episode, but I'm not gonna really make
a huge effort. It comes out January twenty first on
FX and Hulu, so maybe I'll try and see if
it appeals to me. But I will just be honest

(01:21:31):
with y'all, like I have tried on multiple Ryan Murphy
projects to get into those things. And with the exception
of some of.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
Glee, you know, I didn't know he did Glee.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
I want to say, yes, Actually, I'm gonna do a
quick look you can vamp. I'm gonna make sure, but
I'm pretty sure he was behind Glee.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Which feels very different from American horror story. I did
watch some of Glee, so I fell off of that
after they stole Jonathan Coulton's Babies got back cover.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Oh yeah, to the point where they didn't even change
one of the lyrics that Jonathan Coulton had changed, and
then they tried to argue that they did not do that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
Yeah, yeah. Ryan Murphy was behind Glee, Yes, okay, which
is also trashy by the way, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
But like different, like a different.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
Not as trashy as American Horror Story or All's Fair
or any of those things.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
Yeah, it's not as sexy for sure, at least not
to me. Yeah. I liked some of Glee until I
realized that it wasn't It was just pilfering stuff a
lot of the times.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
Yeah, like that. Yeah, And I liked it when they
were doing more show tunes, and I didn't care for
it as much when they were doing the pop songs
because so I would have preferred it if it wasn't
about the Glee Club but was instead about a musical
theater department. Right, Yeah, But then there's so many issues
I have with that show where I'm just like, oh,
this is skeezy and gross and exploitative, and then on

(01:23:06):
top of that, like there's true tragedy attached to that show.
I think there's like three of the main actors have
passed away, one of them during the actual process of
making the show. So that's rough, Like there's a lot
of bad juju going on there. Anyway, the beauty looks
like it's super duper trashy, So that's your thing. You can

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check it out on January twenty first.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Yeah, I you know, there has been more tragedy than
success aroundly. But Amber Reiley is killing.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
It so well. So is Leah Michelle Over and she's
currently killing the musical Chess. That's not her fault. Danny
Strong talk about another Buffy connection. Danny Strong pretty much
killed it with a really bad, in my opinion, bad
adaptation of the book. But to be fair, I don't
think anyone has made a good version of Chess yet.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Fair, I still have not seen Chess. I've only listened
to you and Lina sing it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Oh the Mountain duet. Yeah, also known as the Terrorist
Duet depending on which version of the show you're watching.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Yeah. So now we're gonna probably talk about two other
things that we're not gonna spend much time on. Well,
I don't know, maybe we will Avengers, Doomsday, thor and
X Men.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
Yeah, we got the teasers for those, like we obviously
already got the teaser with Steve Rogers. Now we've got
it with Thor and X Men. The news about these
had been leaking even before they started to show up
in theaters. People were taking like cell phone videos of
them in the theater and sharing them online, and then
eventually Marvel released the actual official ones on YouTube, so

(01:24:49):
we got to see those. We've already kind of talked
about how I don't think either of us are particularly
excited for Avengers Doomsday.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
Yeah, no, the where I see the less excited I am.
Like the Thor trailer made me think that you were
right in that Doomsday is collecting all the babies because
Thor talks about his kid and it was fine whatever.
You know, there were good moments in Thor, Love and Thunder,

(01:25:20):
and it might actually be Chris Hamsworth's kid, actual kid.
I'm not sure. I'd have to look that up. I didn't,
but I think like both his child in Taikowa Titi's
child were in the film. But it was fine. It
was whatever. It didn't much like the teaser at or

(01:25:44):
the easter egg at the end of Captain America Red Hulk.
It did not tell me anything new, uh, and so
it didn't tell me anything new. So it didn't excite me.
It also didn't necessarily turn me off the X Men trailer,

(01:26:04):
though it made me less excited. I don't know how
they made the X Men that I grew up with
and love boring.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
Well, For one thing, Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen are
exceedingly old.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
Now yeah, I guess like that doesn't I'm not going
to discount them because of their age, like they'll they'll
do just fine. But also also so it's it's Patrick
Stork and is Patrick Stork Stuart and Ian McKellen as
Professor X and Magneto. And then they also show some

(01:26:41):
of Cyclops too, So is Cyclops their baby that Doom
is going to kidnap?

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Well, Cyclops has like you know, they have Cyclops And
isn't it Jean Gray have a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
Jean Gray have a baby who becomes I think Cable
right who Josh Brolin has played?

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
Right? Wow, that means we can finally get rolling back
and everyone's like, oh my god, it's Thanos, Like no, no,
that's that's Cyclops's kid.

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
But I see if they were going to do that,
if they were going to bring back all of the
B plot or the bee casting of their of their stars.
Then Chris Evans would have to be Johnny Storm.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
Again, we already had that though they already did that
with Deadpool and Wolverine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Yeah, or dead Pool and Wolverine.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Yes, yeah, Well maybe I don't know. I think I
think that Johnny Storm is dead dead yeah, But then again,
no one ever really dies, I guess uh yeah. I
Like I said, the lead up to Avengers Doomsday has
been kind of a cluster and I'll just leave it

(01:27:46):
at that word leading up because it's just what story
are they trying to tell at this point? You know,
Like there's no cohesion in the Marvel timeline right now,
and I want there to be so badly. I don't
want to be one of those people who's on the
internet just complaining about Marvel having totally dropped the ball.

(01:28:11):
But on the flip side, I can't. I can't draw
a strong timeline for what's been going on in the
Marvel universe now. To be fair, I've also not seen everything,
Like there's still several series on Disney Pluss that I
have not watched, and maybe that would make me feel
a little better. But on the flip side of that,

(01:28:34):
there's a lot of flip sides. I don't know if
it's fair to ask an audience to consume that much
content in order for you to get meaning out of
a big tent pole event. So it's like like if
Avengers Doomsday is bringing everybody together, you might be like, Okay,
but I'm not excited about anything that's been going on

(01:28:55):
for the last like three or four years, So why
is that a big deal?

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
I mean, I'm excited about Channing Tatum as Gambit. I am.
I wasn't, but Deadpool and Wolverine sold me. But they
didn't put him in the X Men trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
So well, we didn't get to see anybody else, Like
we didn't get to see Beast, see Geen Gray. You know,
we didn't get to see Keith Urban as night Crawler.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
That's Alan Cummings, I know that one.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
I think I think you'll find.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
That's Jim Cummings, Jim Cummings.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
It's Alan Cumming. He's just singular for Allen Cumming and
Jim Cummings is plural.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
Okay, Well it's Jim.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
Nightcrawler.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
Could you imagine winning the Pooh is Nightcrawler?

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
That would be amazing, It would be I mean Jim
Jim Cummings though has done He's also done voices for like.
He was the singing voice for Somebody, wasn't it. Oh,
he was a singing voice for like. Oh, he filled
in for Jeremy I Irons for Lion King and saying
some of Scar's lines when Jeremy Irons couldn't sing because

(01:30:07):
he had strained his voice or something, so they brought
Jim Cummings in and he did. He did the rest
of it, So like he's got range.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
I mean, he was also dark Wing Duck, so but
he's not.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
He's not Nightcrawler, neither is Keith Urban.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
Could Dark Wing Duck be Howard the Duck's like evil
Universe alter ego.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
I mean Disney owns both, so yes, even Duck is
a hero. Anyway, we're not that excited about the Avengers doomsay.
Maybe we'll change our minds. It is still almost a
year out. It comes out December eighteenth, so we've got
a long time to go. I hope that once they're
done with this teaser stuff that they will chill the

(01:30:47):
heck out for a while, because, like, I don't think
that they're gonna convince me that I have to see
Avengers Doomsday just by you know, hitting me with more
and more teaser.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
I still can't shake the feeling that those teasers mainly
exist to try and and lure people into the theater
to go and see Avatar again.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
I mean I think so. I think so, And I
mean like they also exist to keep the movie top
of mind. Right, how many things do we talk about
where we're like, oh, I forgot that was happening.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
Yeah, but I mean when it's not coming out until December,
you don't really need to do that. I think you
start doing that in August. Maybe true.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
Well, you know what will tie all of the Marvel
verse together for us?

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
I wonder I wonder Man. What are you talking?

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
I'm talking about wonder Man. Oh, wonder Man Man.

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
Yeah, the series. We've talked about wonder Man a few
times on this show as well. But we got another trailer,
and this one finally confirms that the character wonder the
main character who is auditioning to be in a remake
of a film called wonder Man, actually has superpowers. Because

(01:32:00):
for the longest time, in these teasers and trailers, there
was very little indication that that was the case, and
that it may just be about an actor.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
Yeah, but is it am I remembering correctly in the
trailer that he is not? They want to make sure
that he doesn't have superpowers when.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
They ask, Yeah, he's supposed to sign PaperWorks saying that
he is legally bound to tell the truth and that
he does not have superpowers. It is he wants that
part so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
It is such a weird metal level onion of a
TV show that I the trailer did not really clear
much up for me beyond what you've already said.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
Yeah, I want to see this one because the actors
have a lot of charisma and it looks it looks
like it could be fun. It also looks almost like
it could be completely detached from the rest of the
Marvel universe, with the exception of the fact that they've
got Trevor Slattery in there, who was in Iron Man

(01:32:58):
three and shun shun Chy.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
Yeah. Yeah, I yeah, it's it is connected because of that,
but I don't know how much more beyond that they'll
connect it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Yeah. It comes out January twenty seventh on Disney Plus.
This was one that was pushed back a couple of times,
so that has some people already a little you know
already ready to declare this a failure or a flop.
I am not. I think that it has the potential
to be entertaining and honestly, like like I remember when

(01:33:35):
One Division was coming out, I had no expectation that
that would be nearly as good as it was, And
it's still it's still my favorite of the Disney Plus
streaming Like, apart from that last episode, which I feel
doesn't quite stick the landing, it's still my favorite of
the streaming series that Disney has released that I have seen.
Keeping in mind I have not seen all of them.

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
I fully agree, and I don't mind overall mar taking
its time to tell a good story as long as
it's to tell a good story and not to try
to salvage a bad story. Yea, there's a difference to me.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
Yeah, yeah, totally. So hopefully we will have more to
say about that when we get into say, early February. Well,
we talked about hey things I watched, I watch wonder Man.
If we don't talk about that, then you know it
didn't go well.

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
I'll I'll have to get Disney Plus again to give
it a shot. We also got a teeny teaser for
The Muppet Show twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
Yes, this is a essentially a special for the fiftieth anniversary.
It's done as an episode of the original Muppet Show
and has Sabrina Carpenter as the very special guest star.
And it says that this potentially could lead to a
new series of The Muppet Show. And I think that

(01:34:58):
means everyone needs to.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
Watch this, so I'll be getting Disney Plus regardless of
whether I want to watch wonderful.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
Yeah, if you have Disney Plus, watch this please just
for me, Like you don't even have to if you
have no interest in the Muppets, just push play, put
it on mute, and walk away. But let it play
because I need this. I need this so badly. The
Muppet Show is one of those formative programs that really

(01:35:26):
help shape my sense of humor when I was a kid,
and I still have a deep, deep love for the Muppets,
and I would love to see a return of The
Muppet Show in proper form where it's not like it's
the Muppets but they're in an office like environment, or
it's the Muppets but it's just a bunch of disconnected

(01:35:50):
vignettes that are thinly threaded together. I want to see
The Muppet Show.

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
Yeah yeah, and it's also got well Brian Henson in it,
but Seth Rogen's in it. And Yeah, while I don't
like all of Seth Rogan's body of work, like I
feel like he's got the right kind of sense of
humor for the Muppet Show.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
It's funny because I mix up Seth Rogen with Watts's face.
He was actually in the The Muppet Movie from just
a few years ago, and then was also in How
I Met Your Mother.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
Oh, all of a sudden, I can't remember because you've
asked me his name, and How I Met Your Mother
is Marshall.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
Yeah. I mix up those two actors all the time, right,
it's just in my head, like just the name Jason Siegel,
Jason Siegel, Jason Siegel and Seth Rogen. And it's funny
because Jason Siegel was experience, was largely responsible for bringing
the Muppets back with the Muppet Movie, and then Seth
Rogan is largely responsible for helping this this special get made.

(01:36:48):
And uh, it just tells me that both of them,
like me, really loved the Muppets as kids. Like that
was like one of those comedic influences, and I love
seeing people who have established themselves really celebrate the stuff
that helped shape them, particularly when it's stuff that also
shaped me. So that's why I'm really on board with this.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
Yeah, which makes me very excited about the next thing
on our list, because I did love The Muppet Show
and I and a bunch of the other spin offs
of that Storyteller, Tigle Rock, Same Street, all that, But
I also loved Labyrinth, which was another Jim Henson production
that really like influenced my love of fantasy growing up, right.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
And it stands up to this day. Yes, Like you
can still watch Labyrinth and it's still just as magical
as when it first came out.

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
There's a tiny bit of like not CGI but overlay
imagery at the very beginning.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
Yeah, there's some green screen stuff that has you know,
it just shows the limitations of the technology. But you
also have David Bowie doing original songs through the whole thing.
You have a great kind of dark sense of humor.
There's a little bit of that grim, fairy tale kind
of sensibility, but it doesn't it never it never gets
to the point where it feels hopeless or you know,

(01:38:15):
just dark for darkness's sake.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
Yeah, or like so out of date that it's just
unbearably cheesy. Either, right, it really does hold up. And
that's why I was delighted to see the little mini
film that Magic the Gathering and Jim Henson released for
their new expansion, because they use full on Labyrinth style
puppets and do this little song and dance number and

(01:38:39):
it's really cute.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
I have got to see this because I ran out
of time and haven't watched this film yet, and I'm
really looking forward to it. I will say that it
took me a long time to suss out that big
M little T big G is Magic the Gathering, because
when I first saw you put that in the Life,
I thought Mick. I thought it was Mick g mcg

(01:39:03):
as in the film producer and director. I'm like, Mick
g and Henson, what the heck is going on?

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
Yeah, So it's it's for Lorwyn Eclipsed, which is like,
there's the light side of the world in the Dark
side of the World. It's a little trailer for this
Magic the Gathering expansion done by the Jim Henson thing.
It's like, I say a little it's a three minute
and thirty three second short film song. The song is
a lot of fun. The puppets are brilliant, It's really cute.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
I'm looking forward to seeing it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:33):
So yeah, I wish it were longer.

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
Yeah, it makes you just want to go back and
watch Labyrinth again. Yes, yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing that.
I love seeing the Henson Company being able to indulge
in fantasy. I still love fantasy films that use lots
of practical effects and puppets and things like when you

(01:39:59):
see something that you know was really there, it just
adds something to the scene as opposed to something that
might look incredible, but you know, like in your head,
even if it's deep deep down, you know, this was
an actor talking to a tennis ball on the end
of a stick. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:40:15):
Have you have you noticed any of fallouts practical effects,
like the difference from them using them as much as possible.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, oh yes, yeah, yeah, no, that comes in.
I won't spoil it, but that's a big time in
the next episode that you have seen it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:29):
I'm so excited.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
Episode four has some practical effects out the wazoo.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
So yeah, yeah, it is fun. It is is definitely
fun to interact with real things. As an actor, it's
also fun to stretch the muscles of imagining your partner,
but I get enough of that with self tapes.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
It also means that there's another actor who gets a
chance to to really do what they've been training to
do for years and years and years, right, because puppeteers
are actors too, yes, and so I like to see
a puppeteer getting that opportunity. I feel like like a
really good puppeteer can imbue life into a character in

(01:41:16):
a way that just it's just really hard to replicate
that with CGI. I'm not saying you can't do it,
because there's some CGI stuff that has moved me as well,
but like a truly gifted puppeteer. I've seen puppeteer puppeting
shows where like the puppeteer was in full view of
the audience, but because of the way they manipulated the character,

(01:41:39):
you just forget that they're there and it's the puppet
that's the person, and that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:41:44):
Have you seen the clips from the Big Friendly Giant
that National Theater has been putting on.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
I have not.

Speaker 1 (01:41:52):
The giant is a puppet and you see the puppeteers
because it's just the top half of the giant most
of the time on the stage. Get that they're there.
It is so brilliant. Same thing with the My Neighbor
Totoro stage show.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
I want to say that King Kong was similar to
King Kong.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
Yeah, Life of Pie.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
Even Young Frankenstein had some of that. Like I did
not like the Young Frankenstein stage show, but there was
like a giant puppet moment and I was like, Okay,
this is the one part of this show I like
and I love the movie. I just didn't like the
stage adaptation.

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
Yeah. I mean like even if you go back to
like more simplistic puppets like Lion King, the Lion King
on Broadway, how well has.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
That yeh yeah done? Then again, like your first instinct
when you see that's kind of like if you ever
saw cats on stage, Like your first instinct is thinking like, well,
this looks silly or ridiculous or dumb. But then, like
you know, with talented performers, in a heartbeat, you're like,
oh no, I'm bought in.

Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
Yeah yeah. So to be able to have more of
that on television, it is, it is such a skill.
I've done a little bit of puppeteering in my life,
and it's hard.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
Yeah. No, I have not done any like serious puppeteering,
but I am related to someone who has. And when
I see how my sister can take an inanimate object
and give it life and to a point where you
care about that thing as if it were a real,

(01:43:26):
living creature, it's pretty amazing, especially considering how much i'd
hate my sister. No, I'm kidding, that's a joke. As
a joke, I don't hate my sister.

Speaker 1 (01:43:34):
I was about to say, what happened? We don't have
to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
That later, just your typical sibling rivalry. Next up, I
mentioned this briefly in our non episode episode that lasted
half an hour. We got a trailer for Bridgerton series
four or season four, which is just the story of
Cinderella retold essentially, except with a glove instead of a slipper.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
So what do you think, caryel, We're pretty charming? Is
a rake in a cad?

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
So I've watched the previous two three Bridgerton seasons and
I've kind of liked them less and less as time
has gone on, and this one, like I've not read
the books. Actually no, I might have liked season two
the best, but I haven't read the books, and I

(01:44:29):
know that the show veers a little bit, but I
know that, like this, the main Bridgerton kid son who's
the crux of the story this season, is a cad
and then does fall in love with this person in
the books. But I don't know it just the trailer
makes it feel like they set up one thing and
then they just completely pivot and forget the one thing

(01:44:49):
and forget who the character was, and then it's Cinderella,
And I'm like, why that was very convoluted. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
As I was watching it, I was just like, at first,
I was like, oh, this feels like they're drawing a
lot of inspiration from Cinderella. And as it goes on,
I'm like, oh, wait, no, this is an inspiration. This
is just Cinderella. That's what this is. So yeah, it
comes out January twenty ninth. I've never been a Bridgerton person.
That's just not I've just never gotten into it, even

(01:45:21):
partially because the big event space that's literally across the
street from where I live. Not just across the street,
there's also some railroad tracks and stuff. But the big event,
Space did a big Bridgerton thing that completely screwed up
traffic in my neighborhood for like a month and a half,
And meanwhile I'm dodging people in questionable costumes just trying

(01:45:45):
to get home. I have a grudge, which is unfair.
I've got an unfair bias against this show. So I
don't think I'm going to be watching it, even if
I didn't already feel like it was just retailling Cinderella.

Speaker 1 (01:45:57):
I so like, it took me a while because I
don't I found the the way that they mixed modern
and period period a little jarring just personally. Yeah, it
has to be done really well for me to just
step into it, And like, I do think that this

(01:46:18):
fourth season will really be the story of how this
Bridgerton kid kind of finds somebody that's worth giving up
his care free lifestyle for, but not not because of aristocracy,
but because of like who this person is. And that's
cool and fine. But the trailer, yeah, it was just cinereal.

Speaker 2 (01:46:40):
Yeah. Comes out January twenty ninth, in case you're curious.
So you know, for those who are big Bridgerton fans,
I don't don't take my grousing as any sort of
criticism on you. It's just not for me, that's all.

Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
Is this next one for you? The Death of Robin Hood?

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
I don't know. So there was like a Sean Connery
movie I can't even remember the title anymore where he
played I don't think it was I think it was
called something else. But there was a Sean Connery movie
where he was an aging Robin Hood, and I remember
it but just being incredibly depressing. And I saw the

(01:47:19):
trailer for this, I'm like, oh, it's like it's like
they saw that movie and said we can do that,
but more so and make Robin Hood go ahead?

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
Are you talking about Robin and Marion from nineteen seventy
six with Audrey Hepburn.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
Was Audrey Hepburn in that and Shawn he Has.

Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
Made Marion and he was Robin Hood and Robert Shaw
is Sheriff of Nottingham.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
Yeah, I think so. I think that's it. Uh yeah, Yeah,
that was a rough film and I'm old seventy six.
Hu holy cow, I thought it for sure. It came
out in the eighties. But anyway, anyway, yeah, Death of Robinhood,
it's it's got Hugh Jackman as Robin Hood, and it

(01:48:02):
turns out that the real Robin Hood was a much
more brutal and nasty piece of work than what the
legends would have you believe. And that's what this trailer
is kind of exploring. What did you think about the

(01:48:23):
trailer for the Death of Robin Hood.

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
First of all, this is no reflection on Hugh Jackman,
But for some reason, I keep thinking that it's Mel
Gibson in the trailer, which means that it didn't grab
me too too much. I mean, like, I love Hugh Jackman,
I'm not a huge fan of Mel Gibson anymore, but yeah,

(01:48:48):
I don't know it almost so the story is like
Robin Hood gets old, Robin Hood gets injured and is
being nursed back to health by a mysterious woman who
helps him, who makes him like confront his past. And
I don't know if like it's his daughter grown up,
or if it's like a misery situation, or if she's

(01:49:09):
just his therapist, or if.

Speaker 2 (01:49:10):
He's just imagining her while he's.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
Just imagining her. Yeah, I don't know. Like conceptually it
could be interesting, but the trailer didn't grab me.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
Yeah, I think I think I would have been more
interested in this if we didn't have if it weren't
for the fact that we've had so many different retellings
of Robinhood that I almost feel like there's nothing new
to say. Like, we've had some really bad retellings of
robin Hood in the not too distant past, and some

(01:49:40):
of those were even exploring things like what if he
wasn't such a great guy? And I don't know, I
don't know that there's anything new to say or interesting
to say. I still think like a fun Robin Hood
adventure story could be worth filming, you know, just to
to make a new version for the current generation. But

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it's clearly hard to do because there's been so many
bad Robinhood movies and only a couple of good ones,
even the ones I like, I'm like, man, that Robinhood
movie sure is fun. I just wish there were a
different actor playing Robinhood.

Speaker 1 (01:50:19):
Yeah, that has happened. Well, It's like one of those
things is like, are you going to try to make
robin Hood new and different or are you just going
to try to do a really good retelling?

Speaker 2 (01:50:30):
Yeah? Like I think we just need a really good retelling, agreed, Yeah,
put Keith Urban in there and we'll have a really
good robinhood. Maybe he could be the Sheriff of Nottingham
and sing all of his stuff?

Speaker 1 (01:50:42):
Is this really how you want to start off twenty twenty?

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
It's how I want to end this episode. But we
still have a couple more to talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
Yeah. Next, we've got Greenland too.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
Yeah, which is a sequel to Greenland, which I did
not see. Did you see the first film?

Speaker 1 (01:51:01):
I did not see Greenland. I got it confused with
the one where they're coming down off of a mountain
like elevation or whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
Ye have so many that are like this post apocalypse
survival kind of movies, Like we've had so many of those,
Like remember all the horror movies that came out like
last year that that related to that, where you know
you needed to be tethered to the house or you
and your brother have to go out, Like there was
the Nicholas Cage one. There was the one with the
woman who had sons who you know she told them

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to always be tethered to the house. Like, Yeah, a
lot of these similar themes.

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
Well, and this one, particularly because Marina backern Is stars
in Greenland and Greenland too. She was also the star
in Elevation, where she was trying to get off of
a mountain passed some aliens. That was very like quiet placy.

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
Oh so yeah, so she was like the go to
heroin for these She's also in everything. She's also in
the So's She's killing it this year too.

Speaker 1 (01:52:03):
I love her as well.

Speaker 2 (01:52:04):
So yeah, Gerard Butler is also in this. I think
the so the idea is that there was a comet
that strikes the earth and destroys most of it, and
I want to say the first one must take place,
and like I'm mixing this up. I was going to
say in a bunker, but I'm like, no, wait, we
talked about a movie like three weeks ago, but no,

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there was another movie where it was like a guy
on a plane that had crashed in the woods and
you turn, it turns out like he had been sent
out from a bunker to explore like the ravaged. This
doesn't matter. That's not Greenland too. The point is like,
there's so many of these movies that I can't keep
them straight anymore. But it is a post apocalyptic film.

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The log line is ten years after the Clark Interstellar comet,
destroyed most of Earth. The Garrity family must leave the
safety of the Greenland bunker. Okay, so there was a
bunker and embark on a pair of list journey across
the wasteland of Europe to find a new home. It
was originally supposed to come out last Spring, like last March,
which is not a great sign, and the fact that

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it's been kind of pushed to come out now suggest
that maybe the studio is burying it. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:53:20):
Yeah, I don't know it. It doesn't it doesn't grab me, Yeah,
which is sad because I feel like we have had
other comic movies, but the last ones I really remember
are Mageddon and Deep Impact, which were years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
Yeah those were asteroid movies, to be technical, but I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
Remember the difference offhand right now.

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
Some of them are icy, and some of them are rocky,
and some of them are rocky hat some of them
are Keith Urban, just Keith Urban hurtling through space toward
the Earth. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:53:54):
Well, I'm going to get off of this episode and
be like, take out all references of Keith Urban, and.

Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
I'm going to be like, sure I did that. You're
not gonna listen, So Yeah, I know. Sometimes I think
I just think there have been so many post apocalyptic
stories over the last like ten years in particular, that
it's very hard for me to differentiate them unless there's
something really interesting that they have to say, or there's

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just like some great actors who are clearly putting in
fantastic performances. Not to say that Marina Brackeran and Gerard
Butler aren't great actors, but it's just not enough here.
Maybe if I saw the first film, I'd be feeling
differently about this, But yeah, I almost feel like there
needs to be a moratorium on post apocalyptic stories, kind

(01:54:44):
of like how I feel that zombies could use a
long rest before we start seeing a lot of zombie
stuff again. However, I also understand that some of these
stories are kind of the way people are processing the
world around them and sort of trying to deal with
big concepts in a fictional way to sort of process stuff.

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But I don't know, I'm just I've seen so much.

Speaker 1 (01:55:12):
Yeah, well, how do you feel about Agatha Christie's stories,
because we've seen a lot of those too.

Speaker 2 (01:55:17):
I mean, I'd feel better if I'd watched the trailer
for this Jonathan there were two things that I wasn't
able to get to and this is the second one.

Speaker 1 (01:55:25):
I added this one like early though. So there is
a series coming out called Agatha Christie's Seven Dials Mystery.
It's being helmed by Chris Chibnall, who is a doctor
who producer, writer, and it looks absolutely darling. There's this

(01:55:49):
younger girl played by oh Lorsh Lord. All of a sudden,
I have lost her name. It's no Jonathan, Jonathan, why
are you such a butt?

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
I'm pretty sure the title of this episode is going
to have to have Keith Urban's name in it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, she is not pulling up on
the IMDb.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
Hold on, I can tell you while Ariel is looking
this up that this series comes out on January fifteenth
on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (01:56:28):
Yes. It stars Mia McKenna, Bruce, Helena Bottom Carter and
then Martin.

Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
Freeman I believe, Oh okay.

Speaker 1 (01:56:36):
Yeah, and a bunch of other people as well. Alex McQueen.
Just a really good cast. It's about this girl who
starts investigating a bunch of deaths within a secret society
called the Seven Dials. And it's one of those young

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young lady trying to figure out the miss being told
by the her superiors drop it kind of a thing,
but it's really charming. Okay, it comes the trailer comes
across in a way that is engaging and delightful and
draws you in and makes you want to watch the
story and you like the main character has like immediate charisma.

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There are some trailers, like for Nola Holmes, which I
haven't watched, that feel very teeny bobbery or feel like
it's a harder entry point for me based on just
the trailer. This had none of those problems.

Speaker 2 (01:57:32):
Okay, Well, I look forward to watching it like I
did intend to see it. It's just that I was
writing down notes and then realize like, oh, I haven't
seen these two things, but if I were to watch them,
we'd have to start even later, and we were already
starting half an hour later than what we had intended.
So that's on me.

Speaker 1 (01:57:50):
Yeah. It also has U I'm gonna I did not
look up his name how to pronounce it, so I
apologize for mispronouncing it. Nabhan One who was.

Speaker 2 (01:58:05):
Whoa.

Speaker 1 (01:58:06):
It's a good thing we're at the end of the episode.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
He was.

Speaker 1 (01:58:11):
The god of revelry and wine.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
Inis thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
I was like, Dionysius, No, that's not right.

Speaker 2 (01:58:18):
Either Dionysus or Bacchus, they're the two Diis.

Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
But all of a sudden, like I looked at the
because I wanted to make sure it was him, because
he's really good in chaos, and I looked at the
word Dionysus, and all of a sudden, my brain short
circuited and I could no longer read letters.

Speaker 2 (01:58:37):
I got you, I've been there. I'll need to send
to you a video that's a series of clips from
Mischief Theater's movie Night in, which is something that they
used to do where they would do improvised movies, and
they did it in the style where the host played
by Jonathan Sayer I think his character's name was Oscar,

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is presenting a film that he loves to the audience,
and he's got the remote control so he can pause
the movie and make commentary. But the movie, quote unquote,
is just improvisers doing scenes to tell the story, and
the pausing is mostly for him to be able to
complain about how they're messing things up or introducing salacious

(01:59:23):
or objectionable material into what is supposed to be a
family friendly story that kind of thing. And the reason
I bring this up is that in one of their movies,
it's kind of like a Goony's story. It's a bunch
of kids getting together to solve a mystery, except it's
kids plus Dionysus, the god of wine, and it's so funny,

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like one of the ten year olds gets absolutely hammered.

Speaker 1 (01:59:49):
Good to know you think that childhood drunkenness is funny.

Speaker 2 (01:59:51):
Now I played by a guy who's in his thirties.
It's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:59:56):
I'm just trying to get you back for the.

Speaker 2 (01:59:58):
Dal abuse in Keith Urban.

Speaker 1 (02:00:00):
Yeah, but I'm really bad at it. So that sounds
very funny and I look forward to watching it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:06):
But yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing this thing for
seven dials. I do like a good mystery, and this
sounds like it would be kind of a cozy style
as opposed to as opposed to something where it's like,
you know, True Detective or whatever, where you're like, I
appreciate the work that went into this, but this is
this is harrowing to watch.

Speaker 1 (02:00:27):
Yeah, it's it's It's definitely not that dark, or at
least it wasn't for me. From the trailer, kind of
like a little bit more lighthearted, knives out, gotcha?

Speaker 2 (02:00:39):
Gotcha? Well that is finally it. We are two hours
through this episode. That's a long way. I think it's
the longest one we've done so far. We're pretty close
to it. But we had a lot to catch up
on the first week of January, wasn't there wasn't a
whole lot, or the first like couple days of January

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one the whole lot. But man that there's so much
news that came out like right after that. So we
look forward to rejoining next week and talking more about
the crazy stuff what's going on in the world of geekdom.
But for now, because we have gone so long, I'm
just going to throw it over to my amazing co
host to tell you all the different ways you can
reach out to us.

Speaker 1 (02:01:21):
Yes, well, first let me give you Jonathan's home address.
Now I'm not gonna do.

Speaker 2 (02:01:26):
That right across from all those people who are dressed
up for Bridgerton.

Speaker 1 (02:01:31):
Which could be several locations, so good luck. But you
can reach out to us on social media on Facebook
and Instagram and threads. We are Largener Drunk Collider. That's
also our discord handle. You can find all of our
show notes, as well as the invitation to discord if
you need it on our website www dot largenerdrunk Lider
dot com, and you can also send us an email

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at Largener john pod at gmail dot com to the
people who've written to us recently, given us show recommendations,
or told us your favorite Christmas songs, or even just
said hey, I really like the long episodes. We really
appreciate hearing from you. Thank you for being a part
of our gyeeky family. Thank you for listening, and until
next time, I am going to be Ariel. You can

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find me in my bunker Caston, and.

Speaker 2 (02:02:17):
I am Jonathan secretly Keith Urban Strickland. The large nerdron
Collider was created by Ariel Castin and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
published again. Curse That by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin

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McLeod of incomptech dot com. Eight