LNC Forgot to Nominate Wicked for the Oscars

We talk about what action figure we'd make of ourselves, how "Sinners" broke records in Academy Award nominations while Wicked: For Good came up empty, Ariel's trip to Epic Universe and a ton of geeky trailers.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hi, everybody. Welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider podcast, the
podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
world around us and how very excited we are about them.
I am Ariel cast In, and with me, as always
is the super heroic Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm filled with an adult rated loathing.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Why well, when we get to our thirty seconds or less,
it will all become clear. I'm actually I'm actually not
upset about that, but it is foreshadowing.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, I was worried you were loathing the fact that
here in Atlanta we're about to get a second weekend
of snow.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah. Actually, I am Listen. I know Atlanta's not known
for having horrible winter weather. Wherever you are, it's worse.
I get it. It's colder, there's more snow and ice.
You have to walk up hill to school both ways.
I understand. So you can just get off my back

(01:14):
for a second. But I am here, yes, and I'll
break it hup because I'm old. Now, Yes, I am old.
If I fall down, I go crunch. I don't bounce
back anymore. I fell on the airport last year, and
it was so bad that I thought I was going
to need to be taken to the hospital, but luckily

(01:36):
I was able to walk it off. And by walking off,
I mean slowly shamble it off anyway. No, what I
was going to say is that like last weekend, we
we we really dodged a bullet Like. It didn't get
as bad in Atlanta as what some of the forecasts
were suggesting earlier in the week. Like there was one
forecast that suggested it could be up to fourteen inches

(01:57):
of snow. We didn't get that at all. We did
get some ice, mostly on like trees and power lines,
some icing on the streets as well, but it wasn't
as bad as it could have been. The forecasts for
this weekend are suggesting that we could get a couple
inches of snow, which for most places is no problem,

(02:20):
but here in Atlanta, we don't have the infrastructure to
deal with it, and we still have people who think
they can drive on it, like it's the you know,
NASCAR race and that's bad. That's where the bad stuff happens.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
So I can drive on snow. I've driven in blizzards
in the mountains between Pennsylvania and Maryland and not the
safest thing. But you know, slow and steady wins the race,
Like the steady is the important part, right, You don't
want to like speed up or slow down because you'll
lose momentum and skin. Yeah, which happened to many cars, thankfully,
not super close to me. But I'd see someone zoom

(02:55):
past me and then like later on, I'd be down
the road. Mill Ope, they're in a ditch. They well, okay,
but goodness, I also can't stop because I won't be
able to get started again, and then I'll be stuck
in the ditch on the side of the road. And
I have driven in snow in Atlanta, but you're right.
Whereas like a town might have multiple snowplows for a

(03:18):
very short, very small area, Atlanta, at least for a
very long time, only had like twelve snowplows for the
entire state. I was not in Georgia last weekend, so
I'm kind of excited for the snow because I missed it.
But I will say I was really surprised my house
only lost power for a couple of hours because Georgia

(03:40):
Power was prepared to get everything back and up, and
I was getting notifications all day that the roads were
salted in ice prior and when I was driving home
on Monday, everything like I didn't get home until it
was getting dark and everything was super clear and dry.
So I don't know if it will even accumulate on
the roads because there's still salt in sand on the roads.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, maybe it's not everywhere because just like you were
saying with plows, we don't have that many salt trucks either,
So it all depends upon where in the city you
are and how well that is served by those trucks. Yeah.
My philosophy is that if it is coming down and
if it's accumulating, just if you if you can just

(04:25):
stay home, because even if you can drive well doesn't
mean that everybody else is doing the same. And you know,
it makes me sad because, as Ariel knows, we're mourning
two different losses today on large Nardron Collider, I'm gonna
say the flippant one. First. We're mourning the loss here
in Atlanta of our one and only location of Torchies Tacos,

(04:50):
which is closing next week and Torgy's Tacos. I think
Torchies was much better before they opened up, Like investment
from private investors in twenty twenty. I think the food
was better back then, and it was definitely better in
Austin than it was in Atlanta. But I still have
a soft spot in my heart for Torchiese Tacos, especially

(05:10):
the Rosco, the famous chicken and waffles taco that only
was available in March. So for it to go away
makes me sad because now I'll have to go to
somewhere else to get like Orlando or Texas to get
Torchiese tacos. But the more serious loss, Oh please, I.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Was gonna ask first. I also have some stuff this
weekend that I'll get to do, but it's less serious.
I'll get to do it in the future. Have you
done velvet taco because we did talk about how they
are similar, and we do have many velvet tacos in Atlanta,
also with a chicken and waffle taco.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah. I have not tried velvet taco. I remember when
I looked at the menu, I was like, huh, this
is awfully similar to Torchiese Tacos menu, but I have
not tried it. I've been near one because I remember
there's like an escape room that's right around the corner
from one that's in Midtown. The Midtown location is like
a block away from the Torches location. Uh. I think

(06:05):
that's part of the problem, is that Torchies was one
in a bad part, like not a great location for
that particular franchise. But no, I have not tried Velvet
Taco yet.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
I have not tried Torchies. I do like Velvet Taco.
I can't eat a few more of their things than
you can, but like their chicken picnic that has like
fried chicken with chicken skins and potato salad on it's
very good.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Wow. Yeah, so yeah, we're also talking about trashy white
people tacos gil because we're from this well, I'm from
the South. She's just lived here long.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I have to Yeah, people would debate whether I'm Southern
or not.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
You weren't born here, You're like my wife, she's been
in she's been in Georgia for thirty years. She is
not a Southerner.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
But I will also say, like I have an excuse
to do the trashy white person tacos because I can't
do spicy talk.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I am on allergy shots and they do help a
lot so eating potatoes and even ketchup and tomato sauce
have a lot less of an effect on me, though
I still try to limit it because there's an intolerant
side to it too. But like my allergic reactions have
gotten worse as I've grown older, and a lot of
times that happens. But holapinos, I have learned because I've

(07:25):
never acclimated to anything that is spicy in that way,
the cap sayson like it's still rex Havoc on me.
Even if I'm not having an allergic reaction. I am miserable,
So I can't I just stay away from spicy peppers.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
It's sad, Yeah, I mean there's tons of food that
you know I can't have too, so I get that. Well.
The more serious loss that we wanted to mention, something
that we learned about shortly before we got together to
record this, is the actress Catherine O'Hara has passed away.
She was seventy one years old. And Catherine O'Hara was

(08:05):
in so many geeky beloved projects, like she was Delia
in Beetlejuice, she was Sally in the Nightmare Before Christmas.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
She was the Mom and Home Alone.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
The mom and Home Alone, she was. I wrote down
some of the projects. This is just a small selection
because she had a prolific career. But she was in
Franken Weeney. She was in the Dick Tracy movie if
you remember that from way back when she was in
Waiting for Guffman. She was in a version of Pippi Longstocking.

(08:39):
She of course was in the mockumentary comedies Best in
Show and a Mighty Wind.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Those were which also by the Waiting by for Guffman people.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yes, yeah, and they also did Spinal Tap, but she
was not in that one series. She was in two
different versions of a Series of Unfortunate Events. She was
in the film as one character and the series as
different character, which I did not know until I was
looking at her IMDb. And she was in the Last
of Us, the most recent season of The Last of Us.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
So I didn't I didn't watch that season.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, well I didn't either because I knew what was
gonna happen. But I was, you know, the fact that
she was working all the way up to the end
and doing great work like one of the funniest people.
She you know, made a name for herself an SCTV
in Canada that was really dear friends with folks like
Martin Short and Eugene Levy and whom she worked with frequently.

(09:33):
It's it's I'm very sad to hear of her passing.
I am so happy that we were, you know, given
such a huge body of amazing work from somebody.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
I agree, it feels it feels too soon, feels like
she's too young, But I am very appreciative of her work.
Is an inspiration and one of the things that makes
me excited to be an actor because I see the
kind of stuff that she does and I'm like, that's
that's just putting so much joy into the world. I

(10:07):
want to do that too.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, and she was. She was so good, Like her
chemistry with people was so good, Like it was the
the interactions she would have, Like she was funny, and
she was really good at bouncing off of other funny people. Ye, Like,
there's some folks who are like like. And she wasn't

(10:29):
playing the straight man either, she was she was being
just as weird like. There's so many great clips of her.
So yes, we salute you, Catherine O'Hara, Thank you for
all the amazing entertainment you have provided us over the years.
You were gone too soon for sure.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Well that's it for her episode today.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Actually, we have a super long episode today because so
we I actually went in and removed stuff from our
our other segments besides the main like this is the
core of llenc thing, because we had so much genre
stuff come out over the last two weeks, right, so
that ended up taking over. So the Horror Hutches is

(11:15):
still three projects, but small and the stuff what shouldn't
be here but we put it in here. Any way.
Segment is shorter than usually is thirty seconds or less as.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Long, and our victual lineup is long.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah. Before we get into any of that, though, we
do have a question for this week. I don't know
if you looked at it.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
I did, and it's a super easy answer. The question
is that Jonathan pos Us, and I'm sorry I need
to start sending you questions again too.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
You were out of town and busy, so it's fine.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I was out of town and busy. The question is
if you could have an action figure made of yourself,
what genre world franchise would you want it to be in.
I would want it to be like a fantasy genre, yeah,
and just kind of for world and franchise for ease,

(12:09):
I'd say Dungeons and Dragons. I'd want to be a
barbarian action figure. And I mean, like, I know that's
an easy answer, and there's probably there are. There are
a ton of franchises that I would like to be
a part of outside of that, but that one just
feels the most true to me. And I could have
been like, what Game of Thrones or this or that,
but that one's kind of like all encompassing. Hint, hint,

(12:31):
If Sean Levy listens to our show, I want to
be in the Dungeon and Dragon series you're working on anyhow.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Well, that's like my original one that I wrote down.
Should be no surprise to anyone who knows me and
has seen my upper left arm, which is I wrote
down Middle Earth slash Lord of the Rings. Like, that's
the world franchise thing I would want to be part of.
But if it, if it weren't going to be fantasy,
and fantasy shouldn't be a surprised for either of us either.

(12:58):
We both worked at the Rest Festival for years. But
if it weren't going to be fantasy, I'd say Star Trek.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
That's a good one. That's that's a really good one.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
But I'm thinking star Trek from my era, not like
current Trek, but like like eighties, nineties Trek.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I haven't watched Starfleet Academy yet.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
I have not heard good things.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
I've heard good things and not good things. It's very divided,
kind of like Discovery was.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, well, well that's that's our question for the week.
Let us move on to what we have watched this
last time we got together, Ariel, have you been watching
stuff or you've just been buried under work in vacation?

Speaker 1 (13:39):
So you know, I went to vacation. I didn't really
talk about where I was going, but I went to
Epic Universe and the Universal Parks, and so I was
very busy. But we had a day in between the
We went to the two original parks on one day
and then to Epic Universe on another day, and we

(14:01):
had a day in between for rest, which is great
because I walked ten miles a day, which is a
lot for me in my little home desk job. And
the day that we had off, we did watch The Latest.
So we are apparently caught up on all of task
Master exception of task Master Junior. And then, like Sweden,

(14:23):
and stuff, but we watched the last episode that was
available for Task Master Australia. There's one more episode that
comes out. I will say I like the later seasons
better than the earlier seasons of that show. And then
we also watched the latest episodes of The Pit. I

(14:45):
know that's not really it is geeky for people who
are like medical type stuff. It's very well done. It's
such a good show. And then when I got home, yes,
I just like plowed through a bunch of stuff I
had missed. So I finished up season one of mighty nine.
The last two episodes are the best two episodes of
the show. They are a little less gory and depressing

(15:06):
and horrifying. The team kind of comes together. I've watched
both episodes of Night of the Seven Kingdoms, which I
know you did too.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Did my warning? Did my warning to you help at all?

Speaker 1 (15:22):
The potty humor portion I didn't like, But it wasn't
as bad as I was fearing. Yeah, the nudity was weird.
It was just weird. Like it wasn't like The Pit
has some nudity in it because it's very medically accurate

(15:46):
and sure you have to do with that. It's not
sexualized or anything like that. It's incredibly well done. Yeah,
I would say, like, and I know this will not
stay the case, but the nudity that I saw wasn't
super sexualized.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
No. No, I mean there's there's an old man and
you get full frontal on him and he has what
I am just going to assume is a prosthetic because
if not, that guy's got walking issues.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, for sure. And you see some butts and you
see some boobs.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
But it was really interesting because I feel like the
humor in the episodes. First of all, I like it.
I like it better than Game of Thrones proper. And
I haven't watched House of the Dragon because the main
character is so upstanding and likable and just like you
root for him, and and there's this wholesomeness to it.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yes, he's very earnest and naive, but he's also kind hearted.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, but a lot of the world around him.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Is still pretty awful.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
It's still pretty awful. And so because and I'm sure
that juxtaposition is on purpose, it makes it a little
harder to like keep the swearing and the rudeness palatable.
It kind of it makes it hit a little bit
harder and a little bit grosser for me.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
I think. I think if we get through this and
it's clear that Dunk is not fundamentally changed by the
world around him, and that he remains true to who
he is, then I'm okay with all the rest of
the world being terrible, because I'm like, Okay, even in
this world, there are still intrinsically good people who do

(17:34):
not fall to the corruption of everything else that's around them,
Whereas in Game of Thrones, you're like, listen, if you're
a good person, you're just gonna die. We're gonna kill you.
And you're either gonna get corrupted or you're gonna get killed,
or you're gonna be corupted and then killed.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, I will say there are like it is very interesting.
We're only two episodes in, right, Yeah, the kid actors
very good, exception of one moment where he just turned
in incredibly kid actor in episode two when they're watching
the Justin talking and Donk doesn't want to tell him something,
he does this like thing with his hands like yeah,
and like it was super kitty.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
But other than that, really weird because he kept yelling
six seven.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yes, I mean that's essentially what he was doing, but
several of the like the houses, like the brathy and
king or lord or whoever he is.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, the drunkard. H I love him, he's great, you
know who. I don't know if you've seen this movie.
Have you seen X Makina?

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Not yet, and it's on my watch list.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
He reminds me of Oscar is it? Oscar Isaac? Is
that his name?

Speaker 1 (18:40):
And he reminds me of Oscar Isaac in general?

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yes, yes, but Oscar Isaac's character in that there's like
a dance sequence in that movie, and there's a dance
sequence in Nie of the Seven Kingdoms, and I was like,
this is not it's it's weird that in my head
I'm making this connection, but that connection is happening. And
I loved the dancing part of that episode. Yeah. No,

(19:02):
I feel everything you said about Nine of the Seven
Kingdoms is exactly the way I feel about it. So
I just want to say that I'm one hundred percent
in alignment with where you are.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
They also made me like a targarian, one of the
Targarian leaders.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, well you like two targarians.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, but spoilers.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
He says his name is Egg and then you later
hear another name that starts with the syllable egg.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, like if you haven't read
the books anyhow, I do like it. I will keep
watching it. I'm also the love interest for Dunk is
seems really cool and I can't wait for her to
get to do more because she's a puppeteer and a storyteller.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, that's also awesome. And yeah, I love all the performances.
I love the costumes. I'm feeling very much the same way.
I wish that they had gone a little lighter on
the grim stuff, only because I don't think it's like
we know that that exists in that world. We had

(20:05):
multiple seasons of that in Game of Thrones and House
of the Dragon. So but like, I don't think it.
I don't think it really hurts my opinion of the show.
I just am like, you kind of didn't need to
do that.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
The crash jokes that they make, the vulgar and the
grim stuff, I find it unfunny. The jokes don't quite
land there. Some of the jokes do, but it's more
around the wholesome content. But I agree it's not really needed.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
It's usually Dunk being very awkward, right, Yeah, there's something
that Dunk encounters and he isn't really sure how to
navigate through that situation. But in turn, that ends up
making the people he interacts with kind of charmed by
him because they can tell he's not conniving, he's not cunning,
he's not smart in that way, but he's very sincere.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Well, like, I don't know, that's kind of I fail
at this a lot, but that's kind of like how
I want to live my life in a way that
that's not naive, but like where my kindness positively affects
other people, right, Yeah, yeah, I feel like that should
be everyone's goal, because what a better world we'd be
living in. So it's kind of nice to see that portrait.

(21:20):
And then I've been watching glad Lands Want to.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Mention twenty gotcha? Uh? Yeah? Okay, so nine of the
seven Kingdoms, as you said, I saw those first two
episodes too. I was the one warning Ariel about some
of the more graphic content. There's not a lot, but
when it happens, it happens big time.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
It wasn't peace Maker season two, episode one.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
No, No, it wasn't that. Yeah, I kind of feel
like I'm a I'm a you know, I'm a vanguard
that goes out and then I quickly let Ariel know, like, Okay,
here's what you need to know going in. So that way,
if you need to have something to distract you from
whatever's happening on screen, you got it nearby, which I appreciate.

(22:04):
On top of Night of the Seven Kingdoms, I also
I watched for the first time the twenty twenty two
Hell Raiser movie. So I had watched Hell Raiser like
some at least the first three. I don't know if
I went beyond the first three, but I've seen the
first three a couple of times. I saw him when
they were on cable. I didn't see them in the theater.

(22:26):
Those came out when I was a kid, so it's
not like I would have been old enough to go.
You should not let your kids watch hell Raiser. No,
it's yeah, that's like deeply disturbing stuff. It's not always
done well, but the thought behind it is deeply disturbing.
The reason I watched hell Razor twenty twenty two is

(22:47):
because I know the guy who directed it, David Brucknery.
He used to be an Atlanta local, and in fact,
I was in one of his projects I was in.
I was just an extra, like background extra in a
blink literally a blink and you miss it sequence in
The Signal, which was directed by three different directors, David

(23:11):
Bruckner being one of them. He also once crashed my
anniversary party. But yeah, that's a fun story. But anyway,
I decided I wanted to watch it because I wanted to.
I really liked his movie The Ritual, which is kind
of this sort of pagan god horror movie set in
the woods of Scandinavia and has a lot of Scandinavian

(23:35):
folklore kind of woven into it. So I actually really
like The Ritual. I don't think it's a perfect movie,
but I think it's good. So I was looking forward
to this. I don't think hell Raiser is as good
as I wanted it to be. I think it had
like all the elements there, but it didn't quite gel
for me, and I can't really put my finger on
what it was. But I still enjoyed it more than

(23:59):
I did it. It's not like there was any point
in the movie where I was like, I'm just gonna
turn this off. I wanted to see how it ended
and everything, but it didn't blow me Away. I also
have been watching Superstore with Becca because after I watched
I got through all of the first four seasons and
early into season five before we started watching it together.

(24:22):
We are now at the point where I haven't seen
the episodes either, like they're new to me because I
didn't get that far. So that's kind of fun. And
I'm also caught up on Fallout and i cannot wait
for the last episode. I'm very much enjoying Fallout, even though,
like some people are arguing that not much, like if

(24:43):
you were to really break it down narratively, not much
is actually happening, and I can understand that criticism. I
don't think it's unwarranted. But I love the world and
the performance is so much that I'm really enjoying it.
So I'm okay with the fact that it's kind of
light in story but really deep in world building and characterization.

(25:08):
And I'm usually a story guy, so usually that doesn't
Usually that's not enough for me, but in this case,
I'm really enjoyed. Plus my girlfriend's in that. Don't tell
her she's my girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Okay, Yeah, so yeah, I have only seen like the
first three episodes maybe four, because I am really enjoying it.
But my husband, who I'm watching it with, kind of
feels like he loved the first season. There were so

(25:38):
much like interesting, cool world building and things that were different,
and he feels like this is just kind of a
standard sci fi posts apocalyptic second season. But we're about
to since we finish mighty nine, we're about to go
back into it with the group watch that I did,
the virtual group watch that I do, So I'm gonna
end up watching the entire thing. Now, what was gonna happen?

(26:01):
It was just when there's like task Master, which is
lighthearted in whatever, or Fallout, the easy, lighthearted thing was
the thing that was winning totally.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
No, I get that one hundred percent, Like you need
to be in a mood to be able to watch.
Becca will not watch Fallout because there are too many
big bugs and she's gonna insectphobia. So but I would
say that to me. The thing about Fallout season two,
even more than the first season, is exploring the pre
war world through flashback, Like there's there's so much of

(26:34):
that where they're kind of setting up what actually happened
to precipitate into the Great War, which is an that's
an open question in the Fallout games like Bethesda as
purposefully not given definitive information about how the war actually
happened and what was the sequence of events, which makes

(26:57):
sense because you think, okay, well, this is two hundred
years after the war has happened, and as a war
on that kind of scale, there's a good chance that
you don't have access to records of what actually unfolded,
so it makes sense that there'd be a lot of
unanswered questions. So yeah, I'm digging it.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
I was digging it so far, and I will continue
to dig it. I know that there was one episode
that did bug me, and it's the one I think
that I ended up watching before you did. Otherwise you
would have warned me that there is some animal cruelty
that happens in it, because it bothered me. It was
in a flashback. No, it wasn't in a flashback. It

(27:39):
was Lucy's dad going into the vault.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Oh right, right, right, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, if
you if you have if you if you have strong
feelings about mice, that's a tough one.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
They're very sweet.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, that storyline goes really bonkers.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
I bet it does. Yeah, I like Rodents, so yeah,
I think Fallout.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Fallout and the first season of Last of Us have
both been like head and shoulders above other video game
adaptations that I have seen. That's not to say that
there there may be others that I have not seen
that are also like super good, but these two have
just really impressed me.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
I really hope that the Andromeda series that they're working on. One,
I hope I can get an audition for it at
some point, but but two, I hope that it's as good. Yeah,
to have good source material and then not to be
afraid to veer from it and build it into its
own thing, I think is what's really.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, it's tough, right because you want to be faithful
because otherwise you're alienating the fan base, but you also
want to be able to tell your own story, so
it is it is a tricky thing. Like like I
my favorite episode of The Last of Us is still
the one that completely moves away from where the game

(29:08):
went right, Like it was almost like a bottle episode.
It's not quite, but it's almost a bottle episode. And
it was my favorite of the entire season.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
So I mean, I think it was everybody's favorite, not
the happiest episode. But definitely everybody's favorite.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Oh no, no, I cried my eyes out? Are you
kidding me? I was, like I was, I was an
emotional wreck. But for something to affect me that strongly,
that's just that's just an amazing work of fiction. Like,
there are a lot of quote unquote sad stories that
I can watch and say, oh, that's sad, and that's
as far as it goes, right, Like, I'm not tearing
up or anything. I was a wreck at the end

(29:46):
of that episode of the Last of Us, Like, and
I thought I had gotten better too, because there's like
a ten minute, fifteen minute that kind of coda at
the end where you've just gone through all the emotionally
harrowing stuff and then the dang song.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah, yes, Okay, I don't want to cry this episode. Okay,
well then maybe I need to write that down. Is like, hey, Ariel,
you need to cry on cue watch the last ten minutes.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Put Linda Ronstat's Long, Long Time on a repeat, and
get ready to be an emotional wreck. All right, Well,
let's talk about the thirty seconds or less stories we have.
We've got quite a few, and Ariel gets to go first.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, and this one will be super quick because I
did not have time to find a new article. But
New York Times does. I don't have a subscription, so
I could read it. But the news of it is
that Wicked did not do as well this year for
the Baftis as it did with Wicked Part one. It
only got two nominations and that was for costumes and

(30:49):
hair and makeup yep ouch. And then Sinners got thirteen nominations,
maybe fourteen.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Anyhow, I think you're right with thirteen, which is.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Really interesting because I loved Sinners. I thought it was
a great movie. I honestly thought before the vampires really
came in and became a part of the main plot,
that it was a better story, like the first half
was better and it's I saw a lot of people
after watching it were like, well, what's the moral? Horror
stories always have a moral, and they left it vague,

(31:24):
which was really interesting. But it is a very good
horror movie, and they do some amazing stuff with music
and imagery and layering, and I'm very excited for them.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, I disagree with people who say that horror movies
always have a moral. I think many do not. But
that's a discussion for another time over at the Academy Awards,
Sinners set a new record with sixteen whopping nominations. That
beats the last record of fourteen, and these include a
nomination in a new category called Best Casting. But it's

(31:59):
not all fun news. So last year, the first Wicked
film got ten nominations. This year Wicked foly Ado managed nothing, zero,
not a single nomination. Do they deserve each other?

Speaker 1 (32:16):
I'm assuming that's a Wicked reference.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, if I had sung it, Do they deserve each other?

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Oh? Yes. Only two songs will be live performed at
the Oscars this year. One of them is I Lied
to You from Sinners, which sounds exciting, and the other
one is a fun song, but I've seen it performed
live so much that it feels like it's a bit
of a whiff to do it at the Oscars, which
is Golden from Kpot Demon Hunters. It's a good song,

(32:45):
it's wonderfully performed. It's wonderful performed live. I've just seen
it performed a live a whole bunch.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah. I get the feeling that this is the Academy
saying to young people, please watch our our award show
over at Amazon MGM Studios there's a reorg. So previously
teams were built around each series or co production, but
now teams are going to be genre based in buckets
like drama and comedy, world building, which is all the

(33:11):
genre stuff, animation, and unscripted. Amazon as a whole announced
it would cut sixteen thousand jobs, which is sobering, particularly
after they cut fourteen thousand last year.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yikes. In more Yike's news, there's a Senate committee hearing
over the Warner Brothers Netflix proposed acquisition merger thing that's
happening on February third. I'm honestly like, because they're worried
that there might have been like some information that was
shared to help move it along or something. I don't know.

(33:49):
It might just be that people are sore about the merger,
or it might be that it's too big of a
market share. I guess we'll see what happens soon, because man,
I'm ready for them just to figure out what's going
to happen and do it.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah. Well, what happens when the staff at a union
are unhappy with how their union negotiates deals, Well, the
union staff might go on strike against the union. That's
potentially unfolding at the Writer's Guild of America West organization.
More than eighty percent of WGA West staff voted to
authorize a strike, saying union leadership isn't negotiating in good faith.

(34:23):
This can make upcoming industry negotiations as a whole pretty tricky.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yikes. Okay. There is a new AI animated short form
series out about the American Revolution called On This Day
in seventeen seventy six. It's done by Primordial Soup and
Darren Aronofsky, or maybe those are the same company. I
don't know. It's using Google Deep Mind. I don't like

(34:52):
AI animated and scripted and acted movies. That's using it
as more than just a small tool to help out.
I watched the trailer for it, and man, the Uncanny
Valley was weird and strong for me.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
One of the many irons in the fire over at
James Gun's DC Productions is a feature titled The Brave
of the Bold. This is a Batman and Robin story,
specifically the Damian Wayne incarnation of Robin. Christina Hodson is
writing the script. She previously wrote Birds of Prey and
The Flash, so she has DC roots. Andy Muskietti, who

(35:31):
recently directed Welcome to Dairy not Dairy Girls is slated today.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Are you are you certain?

Speaker 2 (35:39):
I double checked?

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Oh okay. So a while ago we talked about how
Henry Cavill jered his leg and it pushed back the
start of production for the New Highlander reboot till twenty
twenty six, which we're in now. But we did finally
get some pictures of Henry Cavell as the Highland, and
by that I mean like two pictures. He's in some
leather coats with some shaggy hair, but not as shaggy

(36:06):
as the Witcher, So that's what you got. That movie
has a one hundred million dollar plus budget.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, it's Yeah. There's one shot of him in a
church and one shot of him in what looks to
be a temple. So I'm guessing Cavell's version of McLeod
as a coward because immortals are not allowed to fight
on holy ground. All right. The God of War film
adaptation announced it's Odin, and it's none other than Mandy

(36:36):
and Yingo Montoya a dinket. In fact, I actually titled
this entry, Hello, my name is Odin. You killed my
son Prepared to die, which it's not actually accurate to
the game. But never mind that Olafer Dory Olofsson will
play four severance fans will remember Oloffson as the enormous
and intimidating mister Drummond, which is real good casting.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Speaking of casting, Mikey Madson and Leah se Doo are
cast in the Mask of the Red Death being done
by A twenty four. Julie Hammer and Eric Fieedg are
producing and James along with James Pressen and Lucy McKendrick.
It is interesting because they're like, we aren't really releasing

(37:24):
the plot yet, and I was like, we already know.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
The plot, but Edgar Allen Poe beat you to it
by one hundred years.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah, but apparently it's going to be, quote from Hollywood Reporter,
wildly revisionist and darkly comedic. The story is about people
like trying to escape the plague and death kills him anyhow, Like, yeah,
that's the story.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, well, I mean it kind of makes me think
of the Fall of the House of Usher. How that
series was I wouldn't say revisionist, but a very loose
adaptation of a lot of Poe stories and have a
lot of dark humor woven into that as well. We
have a bunch of news related to theater, and first

(38:07):
up as the announcement that Donya Taymoor will direct a
film adaptation of the play John Proctor is the villain
in that follows a group of five young women classmates
in a school in rural Georgia as they study the
Arthur Miller play A Crucible. Taymoor directed the show on
Broadway and the original playwright is adapting the script into

(38:27):
the screenplay.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Next. I'm kind of surprised Jonathan gave me this one.
It's one of the ones that we'd have to like
arm wrestle for. Probably there's a version of The Rocky
Horror Picture Show coming to Broadway, which Jonathan loves. I'm
less of a fan of the story, but I am
a fan of the person who they cast is Brad
Andrew Durand I know I've talked about him before. They
used to do community theater with him and Rossold. He's amazing.

(38:50):
He's going to make it amazing, Brat and he's with
an amazing cast. Luke Evans Is Frank and Ferter, Juliet
Lewis's Magenta, Stephanie Sue from Everything everywhere, all at once
as Janet Harvey, Gulian is Eddie, Amber Gray is Riff Raff,
and Rachel Dratch as the narrator, which I think is
such a brilliant choice.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah, I gave this to you because you know someone
who's in the cast, so you beat me. Well, you
might be familiar with the melodramatic reality competition showed the Traders,
and now Studio Lambert announced it it tends to produce
a play based off the series and bring it to
the West End. John Finnemore, who wrote The Good Omen's

(39:32):
series adaptation, will write the script and Rob Hasty, known
for Operation Mincemeat, will direct. I just don't know who
to trust in general, just.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Like a Game of Thrones story, which, speaking of George R. R.
Martin is saying that the end he says he's actually
writing the end of a Song of Ice and Fire,
and that it's going to be way darker than the
end of the show, which had to make stuff up
because the series that it was based on was not finished.
Next thing, well here they're going to be doing a

(40:04):
comedic version of it on Broadway.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, yeah, I think Martin is trying to say, hey,
I know you hated that last season of Game of Thrones,
but don't worry. The books will have a different ending.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, but I don't think it's because it wasn't grim enough.
I don't think that's the reason people disliked it.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yeah. No, he did specifically say that if you're a
Tyrian fan, you're probably not gonna like how it ends up. Well.
Blumhouse Atomic Monster announced it is developing a film adaptation
of Hannah Rose May and Vanessa del Rey. That's the
writer and artist, respectfully, of a comic book series called
The Exorcism at sixteen hundred pen So that title references

(40:43):
the address of the White House, aka where the President lives.
So in May's story, the president is a woman who
is facing global as well as familial crises, including a
pesky demon problem. Now I'm being cheeky, but it is
not a comedy.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
That's not what I thought was going to be exercised. Okay,
I thought it was just going to be like a
running course around the White House. Okay, that's not I'm
gonna that's it for thirty seconds or less. Woo.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, it was a long one. There's a lot of stuff,
but yeah, we'll just go ahead and keep this moving along.
Let's talk about some of the movie trailers that don't
really fall neatly into our lineup, like our genre focused stuff,
but we still kind of wanted to touch on. I
took a lot out of this segment because again, we

(41:37):
do have a lot of genre films and shows to
talk about too. But first up, we have a trailer
for a movie called Tuonor. This is about a piano tuner,
a young man who has hyper sensitive hearing, and how
he totally by accident, gets pulled into a life of
crime because he uses that ability to do safe craft

(42:00):
when he kind of just falls upon a group of
thieves who have broken into a place. I'm curious what
you felt about this trailer. I know my first thoughts,
but I want to hear yours without coloring it.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
I think we talked about this offline, so it is
colored slightly. You had said it's kind of like Baby Driver,
which I agree, but in this one, his baby driver
kind of gets conscripted into it. I don't remember fully
if it was on camera off camera, but he's already
in that life, so we watch this guy enter that life.
But it is interesting because I got the impression that

(42:38):
the whole reason he agreed to help the thieves was
because he just wanted the noise to be over. Yeah, like,
if I help you, then it'll be quiet again.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah, because he does have hyper like he's always wearing
ear plugs and sometimes ear protection on top of those,
because his hearing is so sensitive that even even low
noise is distracting to him. And meanwhile, the thieves are
like trying to use jack cameras and stuff to get
into a safe. So he's like, it's almost like I
really need to do this, piano. So if I do

(43:07):
this for you, can we like move this along. Dustin
Hoffman is also in this. He plays a supporting character,
kind of the mentor to the main character, and Hoffman's
character is ill and doesn't have the money to cover
his medical expenses, so that also adds motivation for the

(43:27):
main character to get more actively involved in the crime.
But then he finds out the hard way that getting
into crime is is much easier than getting out of it.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Again, Yeah, it looks it looks like it could be fun.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yeah, it comes out May twenty second, So yeah, I
think this looks interesting. I don't know that I would
I'd probably catch it on streaming. If I'm being totally honest,
I don't know that I would go to the theater
to see this. Next up is one where I probably
would go to the theater if I could find someone
who wanted to see it with me, which is a
movie called Heel h E E L.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Do you know it's not about wrestling, right?

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Well? I didn't initially, but then after I watched the trailer,
I kind of picked up on it. There is a
wrestler in one of our trailers that's later, so there's
a It's about a nineteen year old criminal named Tommy,
and while he is out being a rowdy, rambunctious, violent

(44:26):
ne'er do well, he ends up getting kidnapped and forced
into a rehabilitation process with a dysfunctional couple named Chris
and Catherine, who and this is a quote from the
log line, trying to make him a good boy. It
looks like it has a lot of dark comedy elements
to it too, but yeah, it's a story of about

(44:50):
a bad person running into other bad people who think
that they're good people and are trying to make him
into a good person.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah. Yeah, he's kind of violent, and angry at the
beginning of the movie. But I would be too if
I got abducted and chained in a basement.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Just saying he was violent and angry before he gets subducted,
that's the problem, but I would be.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
More so after being abducted. That's that's I don't know.
I'm sorry, I don't know if I'll see this one.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
No, no, I totally get it, Like it's this is
kind of an extreme, Like it doesn't look like the
violence is going to be over the top in graphic
although that might be the case. It may just be
the trailer didn't show it, but there is violence, Like
there's a point where Chris, the guy who's captured Tommy,
starts to beat him with a baton for disobeying rules. Right,

(45:43):
Like it's it's not gentle, but it does look like
it's like it's almost on the dark comedy side of
thriller and horror, although I think that they're doing a
very light touch with the comedy part, like it's more like,
look at how messed up as opposed to haha, this
is funny. And then we have Idiotka, which is a

(46:07):
movie starring Anna Barishnikov. If that name sounds familiar. He
might be a child of the eighties like I am,
and remember the ballet dancer Mikhail Bershnakov. Anna is his daughter.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
I didn't know there was a relation. Yeah, it's it's
Project Runway to Dramedy.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah. Yeah. Anna Barishnikov plays a young woman named Margarita.
She she belongs to a family that's in financial trouble
and they don't really have a way out, and she
sees a possible lifeline in the form of a reality
fashion competition show, which in this world is called Slay, Serve, Survive,

(46:53):
and so she decides to apply to be a contestant
on that show. And then the show's producer gets like,
this is like so real. I felt it in my
bones because I work for Discovery Communications for a while,
And I'm like, oh my, and you've been on a
reality show, Ariel, so you know this too. The producer
is like really pushing to create drama and narratives and

(47:17):
really wants her to exploit her family situation for the
purpose of making a compelling story and making ratings. And
you're like, that's gross, but it happens in TV all
the time.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Well, because reality TV isn't reality, it isn't reality. Some
of it is more real than others, but it's still
an entertainment project first and foremost, right, so they want
to keep it intriguing and entertaining. That being said, my
time on reality TV was wonderful and I would do

(47:52):
it again in a heartbeat.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
I will say, in case you ever do hunt down
that episode that Ariel was on. When it comes to
the big reveal, I can't tell you how many times
we got that reveal. Yeah, it was four or five,
I think something like that, and we had we had
to be surprised and excited every time. No, it wasn't
hard because Ariel she already looked great, but she looked

(48:17):
she was just done up to the nines for that show.
So I had a.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Really cool hair and makeup artist in Atlanta. We went.
We went to the Botanical Gardens to do a bunch
of like posts like here's Ariel after shots, and then
we revealed at a theater downtown.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah, that was fun. It was a fun event. I
also realized I didn't say this for any of the movies,
So I'm just gonna do a quick rundown. Tuner comes
out May twenty second. Heel comes out March sixth, and
Idiotica comes out on February twenty seventh. So we're done
with that. Now come with me, my friends, as we

(49:00):
take a turn down a dark hallway with a creaky
floor and spiders and there's bats.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Why do you have to say spiders.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Because they're there, you know where they live inside John
Boy's horror hosh uh. I'm gonna start this well. First,
one of them I know you've seen because you sent
it to me. I'm assuming you actually watched The Lord
of the Flies previous.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
I watched the first half to make sure it was
real and new and to get an idea, and then
I skipped this. I skimmed the second half where it
gets really disturbing. Okay, I do not like that one.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yeah, it's mostly watch it. I didn't watch it, but
I'm guessing you didn't watch either of the other two.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Okay, this time all right, So we're gonna start off
with a different one first, which is called Bow of Hell.
It's a Brazilian horror movie with a really crappy premise
because it's kind of about possessed toilets, so toilets in
a condo complex, go absolutely haywire and start maiming and
killing people. It's all gross out horror comedy, very gross stuff.

(50:20):
I mean, don't watch it if you got a delicate tummy. Reportedly,
and I say reportedly because I have not seen this myself,
but reportedly it satirizes many elements about life, but in
a way that's just super disgusting, but like, underneath that
super disgusting exterior is like actual, like hard truth kind

(50:41):
of stuff. The lead character is a woman who is
organizing a gender reveal party for an influencer client, but
she's also dealing with her own transgender child's transgender child,
I should say, transgender child's disapproval for facilitating this gender
reveal in the first place, right like their child is like,

(51:02):
this is a barbaric practice. It's setting people up on
a path that they don't have any agency to choose
for themselves kind of thing. The initial release is oh
gosh today, but I think it's only out in the
Netherlands so far, so I don't know if and when
it will come. It will probably come to a streaming
service if I were gonna guess, maybe a couple of

(51:23):
like independent theaters, movie theaters in America. But I don't
know that I would be able to watch this because
I have a tolerance for gross out stuff. But it
does have a limit, and I feel like this is
gonna push well past that limit, probably in the first
half hour.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Do you know what my limit is? Slight slightly below
that pawny humor monster in Dogma that usually gets edited
out of the TV version.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
I was gonna ask about the or think about the
moment where Sir Dunk is behind a tree in the
first episode.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
That was unnecessary, but again not as bad as I
anticipated it.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Next up, we do have the Lord of the Flies series.
This is a four episode series by the BBC. It
is an adaptation of the novel by William Golding. So
for those of you who had not read the novel,
I almost said had to read the novel. In my case,
it was a book that was part of my schooling,

(52:23):
so I quote unquote had to read it, but I
wanted to read it. The basic story is that it's
a group of boys who get stranded on a remote island.
In the novel, at least, and I'm assuming in the
series as well, they are in the process of being
evacuated during wartime when the plane they're on crashes and
they're the only survivors that make it to this island,

(52:45):
and so they're attempting to kind of create a very
loose hierarchy slash civilization, and then things go really bad,
and the novel explores themes like the frailede of civilization,
like how close we are to everything unraveling at any
given moment, as well as things like morality. And it

(53:09):
comes out February eighth, and it looks like it's a like,
at least from the trailer. I can't really speak to
the series, but it looks like it's going to be
faithful to the novel. You know. When I watched it,
I was like, oh, yeah, this feels like it's from
Lord of the Flies. And then we have a trailer
for Dolly. D l l Y is not a biopic

(53:31):
of Dolly Parton, although that joke has been made a lot.
It is a slasher film and it follows a couple
who are hiking through the woods when they come upon
an area where dolls have been lashed to trees. Then
they encounter a stranger who wears a doll mask, and
at first they're still okay with approaching this person. I

(53:52):
don't know about you, Ariel, but I would probably take
that as a sign to maybe go back.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
But then yeah, slashing ensues. It reminds me a bit
of Texas Chainsaw Massacre. The doll stuff actually reminds me
of the dolls Head Trail in Atlanta. You can go
and walk this trail and it is pretty creepy. The
trailer is done in like a seventies grindhouse style. Sean
William Scott is in this movie, but to me, it
looks like he's not in it for very long. Hand

(54:20):
tintint and it comes out March sixth. There we are
done with John Boys horror Hutch let me, I'm just
start our next thing. I gotta get all these spiders
back in there.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Oh gosh, Well send some flies in there and the
spiders will follow them. I just have to say the
nineteen ninety I didn't read Lord of the Flies, but
I did watch the nineteen ninety movie and it still
disturbs me to today.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
It's a disturbing story. It's really well done. The novel
is very short, too, so if you ever do want
to read like it's well done, it's upsetting, but it's
a very well done story.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Yeah. Okay, so our first trailer and our actual show
notes is for he Man. We got a full trailer
for he Man, and now we know what the story is,
which is he Man's mom sends him to Earth to
protect him from the war, and he is trying his
darnedness to get back to Eternia, and one day he
gets a message that someone has found pardon me his sword,

(55:26):
and then he goes back to Eternia. It looks delightful,
it looks fun. I think the casting is great all
exception of one person, skeletor Skeletor. Anybody who listens to
our show knows that we're not a huge fan of
Jared Letto. That's not to say that he can't do
a phenomenal job in the role he might.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
You certainly can't recognize him, which is you know that's something.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Yeah, I just I don't know. I hope, I hope
he didn't. I hope he was nice to people on set,
that's all I hope.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Yeah, if he went all method for Skeletor one, that's stupid,
but two, I definitely want to hear those stories.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Listen as an actor. Well one, I am a people
pleaser as a person, and I try not to be
because you can overdo it. And I know that that
hurt John Candy as well.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
But like.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Being method, acting skeletor would require some pretty big click building,
and that would hurt my very soul.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Yeah, I can't even I can't even begin to think
of what that would entail. I was sad that we
don't get a really good look at Alison Brie as
Evil Lynn in the trailer. There's like a moment where
she's in a fight with I'm assuming Tila, but you
don't get a really good look at her. And I'm
just I'm ready to add another girlfriend to my list.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
She's not already added to your list.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
I mean she kind of is because she's really funny
and smart and I really like her work, and she
chooses crazy projects, like so many crazy projects, and also,
like Annie on Community was one of my favorite characters.
But anyway, yeah, this comes out June fifth. I really

(57:16):
like this trailer too. I thought it looked a lot.
I thought it struck the right tone. I was worried
it was gonna be super grim dark serious, and I'm
like it was a freakin' toy line in the nineteen eighties,
and the original show only existed to sell toys. That's
the only reason it was made.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
I mean, I just think the casting is super brilliant,
Like it just Elbows man at Arms and Ailson Breeze
Evil And if you look for the screenshot of her
from the trailer, she looks pretty badass.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Yeah. I did see someone who got like the perfect
screenshot where there's no motion blur or anything, and she like, yeah,
she looks good.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
There was a meme going around because in the trailer
they show this is maybe more social political than I
usually like to get on the show, but it's it's
funny and I want to mention it in case you
haven't seen it. There was a meme going around where
somebody's like, oh, they're so upset because he's sitting at
a desk with his pronouns he him underneath him. It's
like his name is literally he man, his name is

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he Man.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Yeah, there's a there's a there's a song. There's a
song by Flight of the Conchords called the Summer of
like thirteen forty three or something like that, where it's
it's done as if it's a medieval ballad, and and
there's a point in that where a woman is telling

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the main character of the song that his hairstyles rather feminine,
and he says, he man has this very same haircut.
He double masculine. He man. It's one of my favorite bits.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
I just thought it would very funny. But yeah, I'm
super into this. I'm gonna see it. I really liked
the Kevin Smith cartoons. The two seasons of the cartoon
series we've gotten as well, So.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
I have not seen those. I keep thinking I need to,
and I just haven't watched it yet.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
I mean, they are a little they can be a
little heavy handed in the messaging at time, but it's
it's a fun ride, okay.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Well, next up we got a fun extra look at Supergirl,
this time in a little promotional video that is more
about Jason Momoa and his taking on the role of Lobo.
Has a cute little moment at the beginning where he
steps out of the trailer. He's got cigar in his mouth,
and someone off camera says like, what's your your response

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to getting to play Lobo? And he just looks at
the camera and goes finally and then starts laughing. And
then we get clips of Lobo on a motorcycle and
it's real, it's really short, but he looks good as Lobo.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Yeah, I I think. I mean, he looks like Lobo,
and Lobo looks like the love child of Jeene Simmons
from Kiss and the Crow.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
So yeah, it's true. That's a good I never heard
anyone describe him like that, but that is accurate.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Yeah, like really, Lobo is the thing that I know
most people in my circles are the most excited about.
With the Supergirl movie, I think it looks fine. By
the way, Jonathan, that Jason Momoa Dave Batista as Brothers
movie came out this week.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Yeah, I saw that it was when I was popping
on my television earlier this week that it was something
available to watch. I have not yet seen it, but
I might watch it because they seem like they're both
very charismatic, so I may watch it just for to
see the chemistry between the two of them. Supergirl as
a Reminder comes out on my birthday, June twenty sixth,
Happy birthday, thank you. And then we get a trailer

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for Daredevil Born Again season two. Now, if you recall
Originally this was going to be part of season one,
but then they split season one into two seasons, so
this is the second half and they've already renewed for
season three. Season three will go into production this spring,
so this is not the end of the story. And

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the trailer gives us lots of shots of interesting stuff,
like the return of another member of the Defenders.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Yeah, Jessica Jones, which means season three we should get
Luke Cage because that's how they released on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Netflix, and then after and then post credits you get
Iron Fists, and then they just never talk about them again.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Yeah, it looks good. I am mad at one thing
in it. I don't want to spoil it for you, Jonathan,
but I know you've got a long time till you
watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Is this going to be about Foggy? Yes, the fact
that they show Foggy on the trailer, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Like, how dare they? How dare they?

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Yeah? No, I've I've had I don't know the details,
but I've had Foggy's fate spoiled for me because it
was impossible to avoid, Like there were so many headlines. Yeah, right,
but I don't know any of the details because I
haven't watched it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I did like season one of Daredevil Born Again. It
felt like the like they did who It felt like
the Daredevil series. Too many d's there, And it did
also feel long, so like the episodes were kind of
long because it's a slow nor type pace much of

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the time, not all of the time. But I very
much enjoyed it. I am looking forward to season two.
I can kind of understand why they split the two seasons.
I felt like a full story arc was told in
season one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Yeah, I did see that they have incorporated the Anti
Vigilante Task Force, which is, you know, King Penn's kind
of brute squad, which I feel like that's going to
resonate with a lot of people in the United States
these days for reasons I'm not going to go into,
but yeah, using a law enforcement as your personal thugs,
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
There were a lot of parallels. There's always kind of
been a lot of parallels between Dareduvil.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
And current events that kind of stuff. Yeah, there will
be eight episodes in total, comes out March twenty fourth,
and as I mentioned before, they already are planning a
third season, which is great news for everyone involved there.
All right, Well, then we've got a trailer for Invincible
season four. Are you caught up on Invincible, Aeriel? Are

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you still behind?

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Oh no, I'm not. We watched I think part of
season three, and then we stopped. We watched season two.
I don't The problem is we don't remember where we stopped.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Yeah, I gotcha. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
And every time I'm like, hey, let's catch up on Invincible,
Tony's like I do like it and I want you,
but I'm just not feeling it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Yeah. Well, and then it's the longer you go. It's
also like a thing where you're like, I feel like
we kind of need to go back to see what
has been happening, and then you just never make progress.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
So there are several series in which we've done that,
and I'm not saying it's right or wrong, and I
know it's a frustration to many people, and I know
that sometimes the call is made too early. But I
am part of the problem. Obviously, not with Invincible, but
like with shows that get renewed or don't get renewed,

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sometimes it's because people do what I do and they're like,
I will go back to this show later, and they
never do.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Yeah, I'm caught up on Invincible. So I'm looking forward
to season four. If you know anything about Invincible, if
you don't know Invincible, none of what I'm going to
say next is going to make sense. But season four
looks like it's leading up to the actual Vitrium invasion
of Earth and the war between Earth and Vitrium, and

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also Adam Eve she seems to be having some trouble
with her superpowers. The first three episodes premiere on March
eighteenth on Prime Video. And if you haven't watched Invincible,
the caveat that I offer to you is that it
is an exceedingly violent show. It's animated, but it is

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her think about how violent it could be and probably
knock that up a couple of notches because it's intense.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
It's not as bad or as depressing as The Boys.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Yeah, it's not as No, it's in the same world,
not literally, not literally in the same world, but it's
in that same genre of dark takes on superheroes and
like the idea of if superheroes were real, what would
they really be like? So kind of like The Watchmen
or The Boys, I think Invincible kind of falls into

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that realm too, same as like Kick Ass that kind
of thing, but it's not as bleak as The Boys is. Yeah,
it's still pretty darn dark. Also, like, I get that
it's a trope in superhero stories, but good lord, when
you are certain someone is dead because because their brain

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matter has been spread across the sidewalk, and then they
show up half a season later, you're like, what does
it take to put someone away in this Oh? I
get it. They have to be a good guy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Yeah. Yeah, So I have a question for you because
in the beginning of the trailer and also in the teaser,
they showed Invincible with like some copper things on it,
like a copper arm. Yeah, and legs. Are those casts
or does he regrow his limbs at some point because
the rest of the trailer he does not have those on.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
It's it's like, think of it as like a recovery.
It's like a cast. It's like a recovery a piece
of machinery. That's at the end of season three boiler
alert for anyone who hasn't watched it, including Aeriel. He
gets his stuff messed up pretty bad, and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
So see the end of every season.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Yeah, yeah, I mean this one is real bad, but
everyone is real bad. You're right, like you start to
lose any sense of context or comparison. But yeah, he
has those on. I'm assuming to help repair the incredible
amount of damage he absorbed at the end of season three.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Next, we have a trailer for mister Oh. I was
about to say that the bunchline to my joke before
I said the name of the trailer for mister Melvin,
mister Belvidere's lesser known cousin.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Yes, mister mel mister Melvin, who cares. According to New Arrival,
life is more than me survival sending me down a
neural path way I wasn't prepared for. Mister Melvin. Is

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a recut edit of The Toxic Avenger Part two and
The Toxic Avenger Part three, So it's taking two movies
and putting them into one movie. Now. According to the trailer,
these were two films that were both intended to be
a direct sequel to the original Toxic Avenger, but there

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was a massive falling out on the production side, on
the director slash producer side, and you got two different
movies that then became Toxic Avenger two and three, and
now they've been squished back together to be what they
were supposed to be in the first place. That's according
to the trailer. I've seen some stuff that contradicts that.

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But if you're not familiar with Trauma, first of all,
James Gunn did early work in Trauma, but it is
known for like Gonzo over the top, gross out horror
action type stuff, and Toxic Avenger is kind of like
their mascot. It's a character who we talked about when

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they did the remake with Peter dinklic right. It's a
It's a janitor who gets hit by toxic sludge and
turned into this mutant who then goes on to become
like a vigilante. What did you think of this trailer?

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
It was okay, yeah, it's bonkers. I I did see
the Toxic Avenger. I didn't rewatch it, and I didn't
watch the new one, so it really didn't have a
lot of meaning for me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Sure, yeah, it's I mean it looks it looks to
be entertaining. Like I think of Trauma as kind of
being like John Waters but with less to say. Like
John Waters movies, I feel has something to have something
to say. It's just that they revel in trash in

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ways that you have to get past the trash to
see what is being said and if you can get
out South Park kind of like, if you can get
past that, then you can you can see what the
perspective is. If you can't get past it, all you
see is trash. I feel like Trauma has got even
less to say, so it's it's like, no, it's just
trash all the way down. But that's okay because it's

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just made for entertainment. This movie has been making the
rounds in the festival circuit. There is not currently, as
far as I can tell, any information about any kind
of wider release, but if you are curious, if you're
a Toxic Avenger fan, you can check out this trailer
just to see, you know, what it looks like. And
the fact that there's this re edit making the rounds.

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You can maybe plan a trip to one of these
festivals to check it out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
I didn't know that John Waters did cry Baby.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Oh yeah, yeah. He also did Hairspray, the original Hairspray.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
I haven't seen the original Hairspray.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Oh it's good. It's the original Hairspray is really good.
Like I was surprised when they made the musical because,
first of all, I'm surprised that anyone made a musical
out of a John Waters movie, but I was surprised
when they made the musical, and then I really liked
the musical too, But I still have a soft spot
in my heart. It is Ricky Lake, who played the
main character, Oh Nice in the non musical version of Hairspray,

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which still has like singing and dancing in it. It's
just not a musical. Next up, we've got a mystical
Chinese kung fu film called Blades of the Guardians. I
can't tell you what this movie is about based on
the trailer, but it sure is action packed.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Yeah, there's a bodyguard who has to like bodyguard and
escort like a notorious figure. That's like the log line
kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Yeah, it's an adaptation of a comic book. It looks
like the filmmaking is pretty darn incredible. The trailer is great,
like they picked a great song to pair it with
and it it's one of those trailers where they've queued
up the action beats to be like the rhythm of
part of the trailer, which is a lot of fun.

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This movie, by the way, was supposed to come out
last year. I found out while looking into this movie
that some drama happened. So there was a big controversy
around the lead actress who was supposed to be in
this movie, and the controversy was that she had not
been completely honest about her educational background and had apparently

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failed to live up to her end of the obligation
she had to her education, and as a result, there
was this big backlash among the Chinese public saying celebrities
should not be given a free pass to do this
kind of thing if it affects like if the rest
of us weren't given clemency, then they shouldn't eat there.
And ultimately the studio decided to cut her from the movie,

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recast her, and do eleven days of reshoots to replace
her in the film, which must have been really hard
to do.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Yeah, I mean they did that with Tig Nataro and
what was it Day of the Dead Vegas edition.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
It was like Army of the Dead or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
where Tig is notoriously shot against green screen and never
appearing with any of the other actors. Yeah, it doesn't
appear literally seems to be in a different movie. But
I think it's to the movie's benefit, like it actually
makes the movie better.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Fair enough. I haven't seen it, but I do like
taking Natara.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Well well, Blades of the Guardians looks. It looks really entertaining.
I don't know if I will resonate with the story,
but the action sequences look gorgeous and really impactful. It
comes out February seventeenth.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Can I can I say, when you were introing it,
you're like this whirling dervish blade whatever kung Fu movie.
My brain had already skipped to the next story, and
so I thought you were cheaply introducing the next trailer,
which is for Star Wars mall shadow Lord.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Yeah, uh no. The only thing I have to say
about this is I don't I am so far removed
from the Star Wars timeline now I'm like, when did
he get legs again?

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Oh? Yeah, I forgot that he lost legs.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Oh yeah, no, he got cut in half in Phantom Menace.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
I forgot that. Are they trying to make him sympathetic?

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
I don't think so. I think he's supposed to be
a crime lord. I think, okay, I think in the
Star Wars canon. So I went to Wookiepedia, I had
to look at wookie Pedia take.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Out that sad attempt at being Rubacca.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Wookipedia is hard to read, y'all because it's written by
Star Wars fans who have a deep love and knowledge
of the thing they're writing about. But it's almost like
they assume you have the exact same level, so when
they make a reference like that makes sense to them,
they don't realize that for someone who's not as deep
into Star Wars, it's just impenetrable. And I was reading

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it was like, I can't tell. I don't know when
he because I remember the shots of him with the
spider legs right, like for a while he had spider legs,
but now he's got he's got men's legs where they're
supposed to go. So I don't know, but I know
that that did happen at some point in the storyline. Anyway,
this takes place after the Clone Wars. Oh ok yeah,

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this this story Star Wars Mall shadow Ward happens after
the Clone Wars. That's why in the trailer you have
the young woman who is wielding a lightsaber. She's constantly
on the run because Order sixty six is an effect.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Okay, so I totally remember all of that. I do.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Yeah, but yeah, it's uh. This comes out April sixth,
and the last episode will come out on Star Wars Day,
May the fourth.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
I'm uh, I still like Star Wars. I'm feeling meh
about this one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Yeah, I don't like Star Wars and I feel mad
about this one.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
Like I just I'm ready for and I say, I'm
ready for some new series stories within the world. And
then I didn't watch some of the ones they did release.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
But yeah, yeah, I mean I hear you like. Oh,
I will say, Richard Iowade does a voice in this.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
I do like Richard Ayowati.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
Yeah. He plays a robot called T two b zero T,
but is known as two Boots.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Oh that's so cute. I'll look up two Boots clips.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Yeah, you next up. We are just going to spend
a very short time on this one. We got a
full trailer for the Muppet Show, but we've talked about
the Muppet Show a couple of times before. I think
this trailer's cute. I love the interaction between Sabrina Carpenter
and Miss Piggy. I just think it's really it's very

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typical Miss Piggy there's also a fun dirty joke in
this trailer, which it's.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
I mean like og Muppets definitely had adult jokes in there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Oh yeah, they're They're pilot episode was called like sex
and Violence, but the yeah, it's a it's a family
safe dirty joke. Like it's one of those where if
you're too young, it's just gonna go over your head.
It's not like it's not like gratuitous or anything. It
was just it made me smile. We also see that
Maya Rudolph has a little bit in this, and obviously

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Seth Rogan's in it as well. We have mentioned this
before it comes out on February fourth. Please please please
watch it because I need more Muppets in my life.
I need the Muppets to be sources of joy and
love than compassion and craziness and corny jokes. And if

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this becomes another fizzled out attempt, it's going to really hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Apple just needs to pick it up. Yeah, they won't
be able to because that is a Disney property, but
they've got Fraggles, so that's interesting. We also got a
trailer for Super Mario Galaxy. Yoshi. Yoshi is almost like
a bad word in my house. My husband does not

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like Yoshi at all. He calls him a stupid dinosaur.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
I have not formed an opinion either way. So wait,
what was his reaction at Epic Universe.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
First of all, he loved Nintendo Land. We rode Mario
Kark twice. Yeah, we didn't get to ride Donkey Kong
because the line at its shortest was ninety minutes and
it's such a shortcoaster that Tony's like, I don't want
to wait that long. Yeah, we didn't ride the Yoshi ride.

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By the time it was five minutes, which is how
long I was told it was worth waiting for it.
We had other rides we wanted to get to.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
That's fair, I wrote it is it's really good for
little kids.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Yeah, I mean that's that's the point. Yeah, I my
obviously my favorite world was Dark Universe. I will say
that I think we chatted about this offline. I think
I've forgotten how to instigate character interactions as a patron.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
It is tough, like it's usually on the character to
initiate the initial interaction unless you're going up to ask
for like a photo or something.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Yeah you know, or like there are lots of patrons
who make gifts for the character there and or, and
we'll try to start a bit with them. And I
never minded it when I was a character actor. Yeah,
it never minded people trying to start a bit with me.
But watching it, it's so cringe.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Oh I can't. I can't beat that. I can't. I'm
too self conscious.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
I feel the same way like I feel this. I
don't mind participating if I've been drawn into one, but
I don't want to initiate one for the exact same reasons.
And again, as a performer, it never bothered me that
someone wanted to come up and play. For one thing,
You're like, hey, you're making my job way easier. But

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seeing it from a third person perspective where I'm not
the performer and I'm also not the person trying to
create this interaction, I get it. I feel that way too,
where I'm just like I kind of want to find
a hole to crawl and do.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
Yeah. So, so I saw I saw Igor twice, and
I saw the Invisible Man twice, and I saw.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
The violinist really really not doing a good yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
So the first time I was I was we were
done with the park. First of all, it's really cool
that in that area they ring a bell, and you know,
when they ring the bell, you can go to the
different parts where the characters are and find them. So
the Invisible Man is over by Doss Steakhouse, and then
the violinist is quite at the beginning of the park,
and we'll kind of circle around by the bathrooms and

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the Misting Fountain, and then Igor starts at the front
of the park by the I think by the this
is at least the pattern he was following when I
was there by the coffins, and then ends up back
by the Curse of the Werewolf where his cart normally is.
So the first time I saw them, I was kind
of like sitting by the Misting fountain waiting for my
husband who was in the restroom, and people were interacting

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with the Invisible Man, and I was just sitting at
the fountain, kind of in between where he was and
the thing, and I'm like, I'm by myself. I don't
I don't want to. I'm by myself, so I don't
want to go up and ask for a picture. What
I don't have anybody to take a picture with me. Yeah,
And then nobody was in acting with the Invisible Man,
and I'm just sitting there staring forward at the Burning
Blade tavern or at Frankenstin's and chain, I don't remember

(01:22:06):
what it was there, and the Invisible Man is just
standing out by the side of this building and we're
both kind of like every time I look over, he's
staring at me, but neither of us are interacting with
each other, and it was awkward. So eventually I went
up and I took a picture and I'm like, thank you,
and he nodded. But like, he's a fun character. It
was fun to see him interact with other people. Igor

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is brilliant And when I asked for a picture from him,
he was kind of walking from the front to the
back of the park. He's like, come on, and I
was like, I don't know how to take a picture.
So he stopped and I took a picture, and then
he went off because I think he was trying to
get by. Yeah, I like that is the thing I
like about Epic Universe. It is fun if you're not

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into the immersion. And if you are into the immersion
or you've been a street character before, they do a
really good job at it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Yeah, it's interesting that you said the bell thing, because
that was not something I noticed when I was there,
which doesn't mean that it wasn't happening, but I didn't
know about it, and i'd been watching a lot of videos,
So I'm wonder if that's something that they instituted in
between when you went and when I went.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
I kind of so I kind of pieced it together
from videos because I knew that they the blades of
the burning burning bid. Yeah, those blades light up when
there are monsters near. And when I was standing outside
the tavern the first time, when we were looking at
the menu there, we heard ding ding ding ding, and

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the guy who was kind of like ushering people at
the front of the taverns like, oh, the bell rang,
the monsters are nearby, and then it lit up. And
then the next time I heard the bells bell ring,
that's when I saw the characters.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
Hmm. So that's really interesting. Well, all all of that
to say I was gonna say all of that is
to say, Super Mario Galaxy comes out April first.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Yeah, it looks fine, like kids will like it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Yeah, it looks cute. I mean it looks cute like
the first film. Did. I never saw the first one,
so I don't anticipate seeing this one either, even though
my other girlfriend is one of the voices in this
don't tell her she's my girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
Yeah, she might know by now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
No, I keep telling you, don't tell her.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
I didn't, but you know, maybe she's a fan of
the show.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Well, Anya Taylor Joy, if you're a fan of the show, Yes,
I'll go to the prom with you, the.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
Real one or the Broadway show.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Uh yeah, I'll go see the Problem with you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
Yeah. And then we got a teaser for an animated
film short film called Deer Upstairs Neighbors that would be
really cute if they didn't use AI.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Yeah, also uses Google Deep Mind. Yeah yeah, yes, just
like you were mentioning the one previously, like when we
were doing our thirty seconds or less. So I read
a whole blog post about this, and the blog post
it was on Google's block, so you know, obviously I
have to take it with a huge grain of salt

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because Google was involved in the creation of this thing, right,
But they were talking about how the artists were the
ones in charge of creating the esthetic, the look, the
storyboard of what happens, like the actual order of events,
and that the AI was really used to generate animated

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sequences based off the concept art and the color palette
and the art style, all that kind of stuff, and
then they used a lot of iteration, a lot of
tweaking to get it just right. So they said, they
were saying this as it is a tool. It's not
like a type of prompt and hit a button and

(01:25:50):
then you get a animation. It's a thing that you
collaborate with over and over and over again until you
get what you want. And that was also kind of
a learning process for Google on how to do something
like this. All that being said, I still am not
comfortable with it. Like, I get what they're saying is

(01:26:11):
that this is just an extension of the tools that
people already use, like and I understand that things like
like think of something simple like copy paste. Well, I
get that copy paste is something that really makes life
easier if you need to put the same asset into
a space, whether that's a you know, a word document

(01:26:32):
or a presentation or animation, whatever it may be. I
get that, but I really get uncomfortable the closer you
get to we have an idea, we're going to use
AI to flesh that idea out, like because one one
that AI is pulling from other sources of creativity. It's

(01:26:54):
not like it's generating that in a vacuum. It is
pulling from other examples, and the the proximity to plagiarism
is too much for me.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
I agree. I have used when in a big rush,
AI to edit an email before, but even then I
double check it and I still change it. It's just yeah,
and I don't like using it, just partially because of
the resources that it takes.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
Yes, that's also I didn't even touch on that, but
that is also true. Like the amount of processing power
required to do these things is non trivial and it
takes up a lot of resources. And you know, you've
got whole areas in places like Georgia where you have
these these big, big, questionable and sometimes shady deals to

(01:27:53):
build out massive data centers that are going to put
a huge tax on the power grid. And meanwhile you're
giving like these crazy tax breaks to these companies. So
it's like they're not even the ones paying the power bill,
Like all of us end up paying the power bill
because our rates go up. Like it's so it's just

(01:28:13):
there's so many problems so there.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
This isn't necessary. This is maybe not what we would
normally talk about on this show. It is interesting because
Hank Green, who I think is a big nerd culture figure,
actually did an entire video on this. There are there
are like checks and balances for power conglomerates or water conglomerates,
like I think it's power conglomerates for rates because it's

(01:28:39):
not a very competitive market. Yes, and he's got a
really informative, cool, like learning type video on it, based
around Georgia and our data centers because we recently had
a vote for the board that manages those caps and
limits and things, and thankfully we do have a pretty

(01:29:00):
balanced board now, so hopefully it won't make huge rate increases.
But if you want to learn about that, watch some
of Pint green stuff. It's really fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Yeah, he's a great science communicator in general. So yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
It's really interesting too.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
Yeah. Then we got a trailer for a Croatian movie,
a Croatian science fiction movie called storm Writer Legend of Hammerhead,
and I wrote, this is like Mad Max but with boats.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
I put a water World Fury Road.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
Okay, yeah, we're on the same page. Yeah, yeah, So
it's it's set in the world where there's been a
giant flood like water World, yeah, water World, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
And then they have races.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Yeah. So I was reading like a synopsis of the story,
and it's so funny because it didn't mention a race
at all, but the trailer is what makes it seem
like that's what the whole movie is about. So in
the trailer, if I were just to watch the trailer
and tell you what the story was, my guess would
be there's this massive fortified city and they hold a competition,

(01:30:15):
and the winner of the competition gets to bring their
island of population into the safety of that fortified city.
The losers have their respective islands completely plundered of resources
in order to continue to support this massive fortified city.
That's what I understood from the trailer. When I read

(01:30:37):
the synopsis, however, it talked about this fortified city being
founded by apparently immortal Founders, that there's this massive storm
that cuts them off from the rest of the world,
but the storm itself turns out to be manufactured in
order to keep the Founders in power, So they don't

(01:30:59):
want anyone to try and go through the storm because
if they find out that it's not as bad as
everyone assumes it is. They lose their grip on the
population and that makes right, and then the main character
is convinced that that's something they that he needs to do.
So I'm like, huh, the synopsis in the trailer feel

(01:31:22):
like two different movies to me.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
Yeah. I will say at least one person I know
watched the trailer and did kind of get the synopsis
vibe from it because they were like, this feels very
Tracksuit Mafia, which is maybe closer to the synopsis than
the trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Uh. It comes out March thirteenth. I think it looks, like,
you know, for a movie that is trying to tackle
a somewhat original take on sci fi. I think it's
a really noble effort. I don't know that it's enough
for me to like go and get a ticket to
go see it, although if I am going to see it,
I should watch it in a theater because it's definitely

(01:31:58):
a spectacle film.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Yeah, Like, the the production value is really good. Yeah.
Next we learn that sourn didn't I he just jumped
into the cyber verse and is now controlling people in
the future.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
Wow, you got something out of that trailer that I
didn't for a matter of time. This is This is
a film with the Astons, Sean and Ali.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
Sean Aston aka Sam Wise Gamgees retires and opens up
a shop where he controls a magical ring that can
send you through time.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
Okay, well you can't say Samwise Gamgy retires because some
people are going to think this really is a Lord
of the Rings spinoff, and it is not. Sean Aston
plays a guy who runs a hobby shop like a
game hobby shop, hobby a game shop, comic book shop.
Good Lord, you are impossible, and he makes friends with

(01:33:04):
a guy who's a video game designer who discovers that
among Sean Aston's possessions is a ring that allows you
to stop time, but you continue to age. Apparently there's
like a price you have to pay for stopping time.
But you can stop time and then make adjustments and stuff,
and then start time again and thus alter the course
of where things were going. You can't, as far as

(01:33:27):
I can tell, travel back in time. You can only
pause time around you. And there is a Lord of
the Rings reference like joke in the trailer. You notice
that right the trailer.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
Joke, I did not notice the reference.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
So there's a point where the protagonist says to Sean Astin,
a magic ring does not solve all your problems, and
Shawn Asked's response is really.

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
Yeah, no, I remember that line. I didn't actually equate
that to Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
But yeah, because a magic ring doesn't solve all your problems.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
Yeah, but so the movie makers they know.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a low budget or load
to mid budget sci fi comedy. Like the lead character,
it looks like he uses the power to be able
to do things like make video games in apparently no
time at all, right, like, you know, because video game
development takes so long, but he can freeze time and
meet deadlines that nobody else could meet because he's frozen

(01:34:30):
time for everyone but himself. And there's other elements going
on in here too. Comes out February twenty seventh. It
looks cute.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
It does look cute. I like that the Astons are
working together.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
And last, we have a trailer for the documentary Beat
Me Up Sulu Yep, which is looks really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
Yeah. So do you remember Ariel. I don't know if you.
I'm sure you heard about this, but it was many
many years ago now, where a fan made version of
Raiders of the Lost Arc, like a bunch of kids
got together and remade Raiders of the Lost Arc shot
for shot over the course of several years, and then
they even got screenings of this fan made version. It's

(01:35:21):
similar to that in that some Star Trek fans when
they were very young wrote a Star Trek fan fiction
story and even went so far as to invite George
to Kay to be part of it, and he agreed
to do it. This is back in nineteen eighty five
when they started working on this thing and they put

(01:35:45):
it together and it went missing for like four decades.
And this documentary is really about the process of what
making that fan film was all about, you know, why
they decided to do it, what inspired them to do it.
And it's really sweet, Like it's a really sweet story
about people who found representation and media where traditionally they

(01:36:08):
just didn't see that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
Yeah, yeah, I think it is so cool. And also
I think George dk is super cool. He's had quite
the extraordinary life.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
Yes, and very nice guy too. I've met him a
few times. Super nice guy and yeah, he every it's
so nice. It's also funny, like if you watch this
trailer for this documentary, people just outright say, yeah, it's
a terrible movie, but it's kind of it's got a
great heart. It's just it's really bad, Like it's not
a good movie.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
You know. That's that's where cult classics come from, right,
So yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Well, I think sincerity goes a long way, right, Like,
if you are sincere in what you are doing, even
if what you're doing isn't, you know, technically very good,
people res with that sincerity. It's when people are both
making terrible stuff and they are insincere about it when

(01:37:07):
it's just the worst. Like to me, that's Sharknato Sharknato.
Like if Sharknado was something where people were sincerely trying
to make a movie about sharks that are being thrown
around by a tornado, like, then that could have been fun.
But for me it wasn't fun. It was like they're
trying to skip ahead to getting that cult status without

(01:37:30):
having that earnest place, that earnest core, and instead it
just felt hollow and calculated. That's why I don't resonate
with like those asylum movies. This, however, where it's a
product of love from a really engaged fan base at
something else.

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
Yeah, it is something else. Speaking of love, we love
that you have stuck through with us for this very
long yet shorter than a normal we missed a week episode. Yes,
and now we are at the end of our time
with you. For today we are Jonathan. Yes, do you

(01:38:15):
have any instructions on how people could reach you if
they wanted to?

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
I am so glad you asked, because yes, Okay, this
one's almost like a personal favor to me. If you
want to get in touch with me. What I need
you to do is, I'm going to need you to
just dig up this old fan film I did where
I did a musical adaptation of ET the Extraterrestrial. This

(01:38:40):
is an all singing, all dancing fan made recreation of ET.
I made it in nineteen eighty seven. I have no
idea where it is now. There's some great song numbers
in there. There's a oh and uh. There's there's a
song called Phoning Home that was really great. But the
the show stopper, the big number, the one that everyone

(01:39:05):
goes home singing, is called I Stuck my Neck Out
for You. It's great, really emotional. So if you can
find it and if you can hold a screening of it,
I'll be happy to answer any question you have.

Speaker 1 (01:39:21):
You see now I really want someone to come up
with that. Okay. If you can't find it, you can
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(01:40:05):
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